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- 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,720 It's still really a big damage in it! 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:11,720 [Music] 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,960 What up, ee-e-e-e! 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,760 [Music] 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,760 Welcome, everybody! 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,160 Welcome to this week's a Disney Sto Rola show. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,600 Episode 864 for September 3rd, 2026. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,680 This is your AW All-In and NXT Feedwave, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Recap and Review Edition of SRTU. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,280 I am on app to show I am Jeff Peck, 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,000 joined every single week in my post along with Dr. Craig Franklin, Dr. Trey. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Did we just see the changing of the guard in London 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,160 in professional wrestling, my friend? 14 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,120 Ooh, yeah, look, because I actually had a match with Mercedes-Monaid 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,480 that I actually liked. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,600 I don't know where you're going with the whole changing of the guard, 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,080 but, you know, it was... 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Jeff, it's going to be really hard for us to pick a pay-per-view PLE 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,200 that is not an AW show this year for our event of the year. 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,160 It's going to be really, really difficult because 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,480 WWE's going to have to step there. 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,960 I mean, Summer Slam was great, Russell Manie was okay, 23 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:26,680 but that show was really hard, going to be pretty hard at the top. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,880 So, at the end of the year. 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,440 We will preview, we'll recap and review AW All-In here in just a few moments. 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,880 We will also preview and predict WWE Sunday night main event this Sunday 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,680 on Peckock in Atlanta, GA. 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,000 But let's get into a Dr. Trey. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Let's talk about AW All-In, recap and review this past Sunday 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,680 from Wembley Stadium in London, England. 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Let's go through the match results here. 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,680 You had Swarth Strickland and the debuting new level, 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,840 more on them in a bit. 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Kofi Kingston and Austin Creed defeating Hangman at a Page Bandito 35 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,760 in Brody King, the Bang Bang Gang, the demand, the dogs, 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,440 the deathwriters and the conglomeration in the AW Trios were let Royal. 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,800 They now have won the AW World Trios Championship. 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Andrade El Ilo won the Casino Gauntlet match for a future AW World Championship 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,480 opportunity. 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,560 The Brawling Birds defeated Divine Dominion to win the AW Women's World 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Triathlon Championship. 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Darby Allen defeated Kevin Knight in a false count anywhere in match to win the TNT Championship. 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Cus it's go-cotted. 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,640 If he had to call a Fletcher in Cunosca, Tikesh, you're going to triple-threat match 45 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,080 to win the AW International Championship. 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,480 John Moxley defeated Nigel McGinnis in the Continental Challenge Cup Final to retain 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,680 the AW Championship. 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,180 Adam Copeland, Christian Cage defeated Young Bucks to retain the AW World 49 00:02:41,180 --> 00:02:42,180 Triathlon Championship. 50 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:46,080 Mercedes Monet defeated the WL-9 Gale to win the AW Women's World Championship. 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Joe Laspert defeated Kenny Omega to win the AW World Championship. 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,480 And then some other all-in notes that came out from the buy-in, Persephone defeated Maya 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,920 World on the buy-in to win the TBS Championship after a mass Brit Baker interfered. 54 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:05,800 Brit Baker revealing herself and made her AW return for the first time in nearly two years. 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Dr. Trey, last week I wasn't sold on the AW Go Home Show on Dynamite. 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,200 I thought the all-in card looked great, but Dynamite didn't make AW's biggest show of 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,840 the year, fearless, urgent as it should have. 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600 And then, as you pointed out, Sunday happened. 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,720 And the actual event delivered a lot of the moments the building was missing. 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,720 The build was missing. 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Will Osprey finally surpass Kenny Omega became AW World Champion in his home country. 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Mercedes Monet finally captured the AW Women's World Championship. 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Kofi Kingston and Osprey made their AW debut as the new level and immediately won championships 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,760 along, I guess. 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Big S, Worf Strickland. 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,840 And I mentioned before, Brit Baker returning to our reality regain the TNT Championship. 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,480 There's a lot of change coming out of Wembley. 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,000 But the biggest stories. 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Will Osprey finally does it. 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,480 We spent weeks talking about this rivalry being about more than who could have the better 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,480 match. 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Osprey needed to prove he had finally surpassed Kenny and at Wembley stating with his family 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 in his home country behind him, he finally did exactly that. 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Now, Dynamite immediately moved him forward. 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Osprey declared himself the newest standard NAW now. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,340 He's bringing his own version of United Empire to the company and already has John Moxley 77 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:16,980 waiting for him at all out in Chicago. 78 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:21,820 That feels like AW clearly saying, "This is Will Osprey's company now." 79 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:23,580 Then there's the other huge story, the new level. 80 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:27,980 Kofi Kingston and Osprey showing up as Worf Strickland's mystery partners was a legitimate 81 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:32,780 surprise they say that the contract took place and signed in less than 24 hours. 82 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:34,340 Then AW didn't ease them in. 83 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:38,380 They won the trio's titles immediately and just days later on Dynamite they successfully 84 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:41,020 defended the championships against the Rascals. 85 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:43,980 After spending essentially their entire career as the associate with WWE, this is going 86 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:47,940 to take some getting used to, especially by calling them the new level. 87 00:04:47,940 --> 00:04:51,980 Their AW run immediately feels like something worth following. 88 00:04:51,980 --> 00:04:56,820 So the big questions coming out of all in Dr. Trey, I start with this one. 89 00:04:56,820 --> 00:05:05,260 Did all in successfully overcome the disappointing build and feel like AW's biggest show of the year? 90 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:09,180 Yeah, I must say absolutely. 91 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:14,420 There was not a bad match on that card. 92 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:19,740 Even the buy-in show, I would say maybe the Myo World Persephone match was the worst one, 93 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:24,780 but you got the Brit Baker reappearance even though I don't really know why Brit Baker hates 94 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:25,780 Myo World. 95 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:28,980 Maybe she just doesn't fit a family member? 96 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:31,180 I don't know. 97 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:37,620 But outside of that, I thought every match was good, every match told a story, every match 98 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:40,700 had reason. 99 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:43,180 Right now, this is my event of the year. 100 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:51,060 So even with a lackluster dynamite heading into it, I think it overcame that obstacle and 101 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:55,060 surpassed my expectations, which were pretty high going in. 102 00:05:55,060 --> 00:05:59,940 So I thought they delivered on all levels and a new level as well. 103 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:04,300 So I really, really psyched about what AEW pulled off. 104 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:10,660 Do you like that they kind of kept the move the show along because there was that, what 105 00:06:10,660 --> 00:06:14,500 was it, the curfew that they had in London? 106 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:18,420 I think they needed to wrap it up around 10 o'clock, a London time. 107 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:22,020 I mean, the show was just absolutely moving and there's been a lot of times that that show. 108 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:24,980 I mean, the one in Texas went, I think, it's still going on. 109 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:25,980 It feels like something's. 110 00:06:25,980 --> 00:06:26,980 Yes. 111 00:06:26,980 --> 00:06:29,180 Did they say why there was a curfew? 112 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:30,180 I missed that part. 113 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:31,180 I just say why? 114 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:32,580 I'm not sure. 115 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:33,580 I got to be honest with you. 116 00:06:33,580 --> 00:06:36,700 We looked at opposite to what the London hasn't. 117 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:37,700 Good news. 118 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:40,300 This can hear that when London's calling, they have a bedtime. 119 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:41,300 Yeah. 120 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:42,300 A bite by bite. 121 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:43,300 Bloody hell. 122 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,300 I need to sleep. 123 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:45,300 Yeah. 124 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:46,300 Like, oh, blind me. 125 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:47,300 I'm bloody tired. 126 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:52,380 I just put a head down or British accents ever. 127 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:57,660 You know, I felt like the pacing of the show was really, really well done. 128 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:06,020 I mean, even the transition from buying to main show kicking off with right at the time 129 00:07:06,020 --> 00:07:10,540 that, you know, Swerve and the new level are coming out, made sense. 130 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:15,820 Nothing really felt, you know, I mean, maybe Moxley McGinnis at times felt like it was, 131 00:07:15,820 --> 00:07:19,220 you know, going a little longer dragging, but that's more they were telling the story 132 00:07:19,220 --> 00:07:24,300 of, you know, Nigel trying to overcome the ankle injury more than anything else. 133 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:27,820 I mean, I thought the show flowed really well. 134 00:07:27,820 --> 00:07:29,820 It ended on a good note. 135 00:07:29,820 --> 00:07:35,060 Thank God because otherwise I still think that crowd would have rioted if Osprey had not 136 00:07:35,060 --> 00:07:38,340 one or somebody cashed in. 137 00:07:38,340 --> 00:07:42,180 But then again, if the show, if there was a riot, they immediately would have had to go 138 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:43,180 to bed. 139 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:47,460 So, I mean, the pacing of the show itself was really well done. 140 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:50,220 And that has not been AEW's strong suit. 141 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:54,220 I will say the last, about the last year, I feel like most of the 142 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:59,220 pay-per-views have had a good flow to them and haven't had that law. 143 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:05,700 This one just, I mean, it almost felt, this was how we're Jeff, it felt like a WWE production 144 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:07,700 when it came to timing stuff out. 145 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:09,540 Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. 146 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:11,660 It certainly felt that way. 147 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:14,420 I did a little bit of quick research here. 148 00:08:14,420 --> 00:08:19,660 Wembley Stadium has a standard 10, 30 PM curfew policy for Sundays and bank holidays. 149 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:23,660 Organizers can request special extensions if event runs past the limits. 150 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:27,900 So, you know, I mean, we were joking around about the length of all in, especially coming 151 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:30,980 out of Texas last year, being a little bit of a concern. 152 00:08:30,980 --> 00:08:31,980 But that certainly wasn't the case. 153 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:34,340 It had a very good pace to it. 154 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:40,020 And I think if AEW is going to do four hour PLEs, pay-per-views, whatever they want to call 155 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:43,860 them, then I think the pace that they found is reasonable. 156 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:47,500 And that's been always something that's been my issue with the AEW shows. 157 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:52,340 When they do the pay-per-views, is they stuffed a lot of stuff in there and there were times. 158 00:08:52,340 --> 00:08:57,740 And there's a lot of this on the buy-in stuff of matches that didn't need to be there at 159 00:08:57,740 --> 00:08:58,740 all. 160 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:05,220 Just filler at that point and doesn't really do much for anyone or if it takes like a little 161 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:09,580 minor storyline and just moves it a little bit further. 162 00:09:09,580 --> 00:09:13,100 I mean, I guess the biggest one to me is Persephone, defeating Maya World. 163 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,420 There's a title change for Bakers in there from the buy-in standpoint. 164 00:09:16,420 --> 00:09:21,540 But I felt like the main card had a very, very good flow to it that I think it's just something 165 00:09:21,540 --> 00:09:23,740 that they could keep building off of. 166 00:09:23,740 --> 00:09:28,540 And I was thinking to myself last night when I was watching Dynamite, that it amazes me that 167 00:09:28,540 --> 00:09:35,380 there was this stretch for like two years ago where almost every big name was out and there 168 00:09:35,380 --> 00:09:38,260 was really no one marketable. 169 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:42,620 And we've gone through this point in time in the past where Hangman Page was championed 170 00:09:42,620 --> 00:09:43,620 last year. 171 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:47,780 I think this happened a lot during Swerves Championship run and maybe even Bryan Danielson Championship 172 00:09:47,780 --> 00:09:51,780 run, whether it was like no true contenders because everybody was out hurt. 173 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:53,620 They've got everybody running right now. 174 00:09:53,620 --> 00:09:58,840 And I think that's one of the main reasons why AW has been so successful in 2026 is just 175 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,340 overall health. 176 00:10:00,340 --> 00:10:02,340 No, absolutely. 177 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:07,940 I mean, that run, and if you go back into history of our show back in like, I think it was 178 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:10,860 like 2012, we had that same issue with WWE. 179 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:15,180 We're like, everybody was hurt, the show was awful. 180 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:20,380 I mean, right now, I mean Chris Jericho is about to feud with Nick Wayne. 181 00:10:20,380 --> 00:10:26,540 That's how much depth they have on the roster where you can take Chris Jericho who arguably 182 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:30,940 should be upper mid card, mid event. 183 00:10:30,940 --> 00:10:33,780 And he's wrestling Nick Wayne, feud right now. 184 00:10:33,780 --> 00:10:38,220 I mean, having everybody available, we've talked about a show. 185 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:43,820 At times you can look at AW's roster compared to WPEs, you're like, AW has more depth when 186 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:45,260 everybody's helping. 187 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:50,020 The problem was, you know, two years ago, everybody was hurt and that's why they played the Samoa 188 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:53,740 Joe card or the John Moxley card or things like that. 189 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:59,380 Just to get somebody on top that had name recognition to try to help elevate everybody else 190 00:10:59,380 --> 00:11:00,940 and it just didn't really work. 191 00:11:00,940 --> 00:11:06,580 Right now, you can take a chance on a first time world champion like Will Osprey knowing 192 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:11,980 that the depth of challengers around him can help elevate his level too. 193 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:14,780 So they're in a really, really good position right now. 194 00:11:14,780 --> 00:11:18,780 Yeah, they're in a very, very good position and it's exciting to see and it's great for 195 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:19,780 wrestling fans. 196 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:23,980 And I think the way that AW is performing as of late is helped elevate the WWE game just 197 00:11:23,980 --> 00:11:24,980 to throw that in there. 198 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:28,580 But I want to keep the focus here still on AW. 199 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:33,700 Next question I have for you, Dr. Trey, is Will Osprey now unquestionably the guy AW 200 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:37,460 should build the company around moving forward because this is something we've seen with 201 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:38,460 some of these champions. 202 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:39,460 You could point to Swarth Strickland. 203 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:41,140 You could point to Hangman Page. 204 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:45,700 You could even point to MJF here on the heel side of things where these guys get the title 205 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:50,460 finally after waiting for a long time for them to be crown champion, almost an uncrowned 206 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:52,420 champion in the eyes of the fans. 207 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:57,020 And then their runs kind of fall short a little bit like I think both Hangman Page's runs 208 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58,420 were not the best. 209 00:11:58,420 --> 00:12:03,940 I think MJF's run as like a heel into a baby face was not one of my favorites but as other 210 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:06,500 runs as the heel champion were fantastic. 211 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:10,060 And then we're kind of start stops with Swarth Strickland as well when he was champion 212 00:12:10,060 --> 00:12:16,580 and I always feel like Will Osprey falls into this bucket of guys that due to the AW launch 213 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:22,860 have their stock has risen because of AW being another company in the United States. 214 00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:29,740 Yeah, I think the question is, you know, can AW book a baby face champion? 215 00:12:29,740 --> 00:12:33,380 And that's been one of those discussions you and I have had for the entirety of the show 216 00:12:33,380 --> 00:12:39,660 is that sometimes it's really hard to book a baby face champion and keep them a baby 217 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:42,100 face and not have the crowd turn against them. 218 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:46,580 You look at, you know, John Cena's run when he was on top and he's the champion and then 219 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:51,140 the crowd starts turning against him because, oh, you're forcing him down our throat or, 220 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:54,780 you know, even Cody in recent years like, oh, you're starting to force him down our 221 00:12:54,780 --> 00:12:55,780 throat. 222 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:58,580 We want the heel turn to come up. 223 00:12:58,580 --> 00:13:03,340 You know, sometimes the chase is more fun than the capture. 224 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:09,460 And we like seeing the baby faces overcome obstacles to achieve their goal to to finish 225 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:12,340 the story, whatever you want to call it. 226 00:13:12,340 --> 00:13:14,140 But then what's the next chapter? 227 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:15,940 What's the next evolution? 228 00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:22,620 You know, MJ, or excuse me, with Osprey right now, he has a lit me of challengers around 229 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:23,620 him. 230 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:28,420 But can you keep him as the centerpiece and keep fans interested? 231 00:13:28,420 --> 00:13:33,580 And sometimes that's going to rely on how good you book your challengers coming up. 232 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:38,060 He on paper, he has all the tools to build a company around like he's young. 233 00:13:38,060 --> 00:13:39,060 He's athletic. 234 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:40,420 He's well spoken. 235 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:42,740 He has, he's great in the ring. 236 00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:44,820 You can do all those things with him. 237 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:49,620 It's just, you know, can you build up credible threats to where it looks like he still might 238 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,140 lose at any moment. 239 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:56,020 Boom, he overcomes his odds and he keeps him fresh and he keeps him cutting edge and he keeps 240 00:13:56,020 --> 00:14:01,020 them the crowd buying into him and not turning against him down the line. 241 00:14:01,020 --> 00:14:05,620 And I think that's what kind of what happened to hangman in his runs is we'd love the hangman 242 00:14:05,620 --> 00:14:11,380 chase, but then once he was on top, it's kind of like, all right, now what? 243 00:14:11,380 --> 00:14:12,380 Swarve is the exception. 244 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:18,220 Swarve, I think we all wanted more out of Swarves run than we got. 245 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:22,540 But that might have been when those like, you know, test runs like, hey, can he be the top 246 00:14:22,540 --> 00:14:23,540 guy? 247 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:28,340 It is going to be a question of like, is this a will Osprey test run to become the long 248 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:29,340 term answer? 249 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:33,140 Or are they already buying in that he is the long term answer? 250 00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:35,180 Talk a bit about Mercedes Monet. 251 00:14:35,180 --> 00:14:36,660 You mentioned at the top of the show. 252 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:42,580 I mean, you have been, uh, unquivvally in this history of this podcast, someone who is not 253 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:47,780 been the biggest Mercedes Monet fan, but you were kind of given her semi flowers here. 254 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:51,460 So this is the opportunity full discussion on that match. 255 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:55,700 Her now expected run as AW world women's champion. 256 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,180 Your thoughts on how everything took place at all in. 257 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:00,660 And I guess any apologies you want to make. 258 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:02,660 All apologizing. 259 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:03,660 Well, I'll say this. 260 00:15:03,660 --> 00:15:08,740 One thing I've always said about Mercedes and Sasha is if she's in the ring with somebody 261 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:14,300 she trusts or somebody she respects or, you know, is a friend. 262 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:16,980 You know, she never had a bad match with Bailey. 263 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:19,260 She never had a bad match with back to your Charlotte. 264 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:23,740 It was always the other people like she would go down to their level. 265 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:29,700 And we saw it in the TV S run like some of those matches against lesser quality opponents 266 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:30,900 gave us bad matches. 267 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:32,820 I think she loves Willow. 268 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:34,980 I mean, she's never had a bad match with Willow so far. 269 00:15:34,980 --> 00:15:35,980 How could you not? 270 00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:36,980 How could you not, right? 271 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:37,980 I mean, yeah. 272 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:38,980 She's been on the line. 273 00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:40,980 I mean, Willow's fantastic. 274 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:44,900 And it just sucks that, you know, her aunt's legit broken or whatever. 275 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,980 Um, so I, I, I will say this. 276 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:49,460 It was a great match. 277 00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:51,580 I'll give her a flowers for having a good match. 278 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:58,340 I will give AW flowers because I think this is the better role for her is being on top 279 00:15:58,340 --> 00:15:59,340 of the division. 280 00:15:59,340 --> 00:16:06,460 I've said it the entire T of her time in AW like her being TBS champion made the TBS title 281 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:09,460 feel more important than the women's title. 282 00:16:09,460 --> 00:16:14,380 And now when you have, you know, fecla jumping into the into the Friday to get her title back, 283 00:16:14,380 --> 00:16:19,620 you're like, oh, this can help elevate fecla even more as well. 284 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:24,900 It is going to be interesting to see like how Mercedes is booked coming out of this because 285 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:25,900 dynamite. 286 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:30,900 It's going to be in book like a heel, but fecla is she becoming the anti hero or are they 287 00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:32,860 going to switch roles in there? 288 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:38,700 But this is the right position for her to be in to actually elevate people because I mean, 289 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:43,500 most fans, I think they care about the TBS title, but you're supposed to care more about 290 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:46,980 the world title than the mid card title. 291 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:51,020 So this is the best spot for her to be in to help elevate the rest of the division. 292 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:55,260 Well, it's just funny because they, you know, they pointed out that the big three 293 00:16:55,260 --> 00:16:58,540 signings for 2024 in a W was will us break. 294 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:02,300 Does it go caught him or say these Monet and at least two of the three of them were crowned 295 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:06,740 world champions for the first time in a W on Sunday night and because it's go caught, 296 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:09,780 I got a second run now as the international champion. 297 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:16,700 So it's, I mean, certainly a W did not go and shotgun anything by by putting titles on 298 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:18,340 these folks or world titles. 299 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:20,300 I should say on these folks right away. 300 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,580 I mean, I was making a case you got to put the world championship on will us break like 301 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:25,420 right now and they did not do that. 302 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:29,620 I would have figured what Sasha Banks Mercedes Monet was going to have a championship, the 303 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:32,700 world champion to put on her waist within months of joining and that didn't happen. 304 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:36,820 They put the TBS title on her and she helped elevate what's considered the quote secondary 305 00:17:36,820 --> 00:17:40,700 championship of the AW women's division. 306 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:45,300 So from a looking standpoint, I mean, it was definitely slow burn. 307 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:47,020 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. 308 00:17:47,020 --> 00:17:52,940 I think all three wrestlers are well established in the eyes of AWF a four. 309 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:54,780 I would be surprised of AWF fans. 310 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:55,780 I'm sure there is some. 311 00:17:55,780 --> 00:18:01,300 I would say maybe let's say 15 to 25% of them have no clue what new Japan is and did not 312 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:02,300 pay a lick of attention. 313 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:07,340 I guess a WWE over the last several years when Mercedes Monet was there. 314 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:10,140 But yeah, I mean, that was something that was certainly pointed out coming out of all 315 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:15,820 in was like, hey, the three big signings in 2024 and now champions here in 2026. 316 00:18:15,820 --> 00:18:20,900 The last thing that I'll bring up here, Dr. Trey, the new level Austin Creed, Austin 317 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:26,700 Creed, Kofi Kingston, Kofi, debuting at AW. 318 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:27,700 What do you think of everything? 319 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:30,140 I mean, they certainly looked refreshed. 320 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,300 They looked rejuvenated. 321 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,580 They look happy. 322 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:40,580 What were some of your takeaways to their debut at all in and then the match on Wednesday 323 00:18:40,580 --> 00:18:45,180 and also against the Rascals, the first title offense? 324 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:46,180 Love. 325 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:47,180 I love the name. 326 00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:51,340 At first, I was a little worried, or I recall a brand new morning or something. 327 00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:53,340 I didn't know where they were going to go. 328 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:58,500 But I tied in to their gaming history with the new level and the press star thing. 329 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,300 I thought the entrance was really well done. 330 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:06,620 Kind of an homage to Double Dragon, throw a throwback video game. 331 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:09,780 The music was great. 332 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:12,820 Austin Creed looks fantastic. 333 00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:15,620 Like, that's the best I've ever seen him look. 334 00:19:15,620 --> 00:19:18,620 I've been following him since his TN eight days. 335 00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:21,340 Kofi looked happy and refreshed. 336 00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:23,300 Swarve looked like he was having fun. 337 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,020 You can tell these guys are super tight. 338 00:19:26,020 --> 00:19:29,420 You know, off screen as well as on. 339 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:35,020 I was a little surprised that not so much that none of them got eliminated, but like how 340 00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:40,580 quickly maybe the hangman, Brodito got eliminated, but maybe that's setting up for hangman in the 341 00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:48,020 box against them at some point, because that arguably is a dream match as well. 342 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:53,660 But overall, and then getting their flowers later in the show when they came out and got 343 00:19:53,660 --> 00:20:00,060 in the ring with the other four tag teams, you're like, wow, this, this, I mean, I don't 344 00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:04,500 know if they can actually bring this up, but I go back to in the new day confronted edge 345 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:07,340 and threaten to break his neck on Smackdown. 346 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,900 I mean, that's, there's history there. 347 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:14,180 And that's another potential dream match that fans never thought would happen would be 348 00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:16,700 co-op and cage against the new against the new level. 349 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:18,300 I mean, that's a dream match. 350 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:24,500 The bucks in the new level, if getting FTR and the new level in the ring, I mean, it's 351 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:29,100 amazing how we can sometimes complain about eight of you for getting about tag team wrestling. 352 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,860 And then all of a sudden they're like, nope, we got you covered, bro. 353 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:34,140 I mean, the motor scene machine guns in the new day. 354 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:38,340 I mean, these are all fantastic matchups that can happen. 355 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:45,780 So right place, right time, right energy equals dollars for, for, you know, pay-per-view 356 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:46,780 bikes. 357 00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:49,580 What do you think of the pair with Swarth overall? 358 00:20:49,580 --> 00:20:50,580 Right move, wrong move. 359 00:20:50,580 --> 00:20:53,620 I would like to see him just debut as a tag team, honestly. 360 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:59,420 Yeah, I mean, to pay off the history of, I mean, if you can get me swarve in the new level 361 00:20:59,420 --> 00:21:03,780 against Hangman in the Box for the Trio's title, that might make me care about the Trio's 362 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:04,780 titles. 363 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:09,700 You know, that's an angle to play, but I think they're showing that like, hey, they're, they're 364 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:15,660 friends, but they're not a group because you saw that later when, when creating coffee 365 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:20,620 came out on their own to get in there with, in the ring with, you know, with the box and 366 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:23,300 MCMG and FTR and everybody else. 367 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:26,660 So I like the pairing because there is a natural connection. 368 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:31,060 I mean, that was always the comparison with, um, hit row. 369 00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:34,340 Oh, god, I can't believe I remember the name hit row with hit row. 370 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:38,540 They were supposed to be the next version of the new day and you get that payoff now where 371 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:42,340 you got swarve with the new day or the new level. 372 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:44,300 So it shows that there's history. 373 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:46,020 There's a friendship there. 374 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:52,060 Not everybody has to be a stable in a W, but if you're like, hey, this tag team is my 375 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,060 friend and we want to win the titles. 376 00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:58,380 Hey, and then they can branch off and do their own thing individually as well or, you 377 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:03,500 know, and or, you know, Kofi and Austin can go off and do the tag thing and swarve can do 378 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:08,940 singles and then cycle back, cycle back up much like they've done with Omega and the box 379 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:10,780 or hang man in the box. 380 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:15,140 You can do the same thing here and it's always going to be fresh when it comes back up. 381 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:16,140 Absolutely. 382 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:17,140 Yeah. 383 00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:20,260 No, um, I just think probably my only takeaway was just a little like to see him just come 384 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:25,380 in as a tag team rather than a trio's for the time being. 385 00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:30,100 So we'll see how that pays plays out with Swarth because now you went from the most dangerous 386 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:37,460 man and AW to the most dangerous dancer in AW like dangerous swain of the hips and AW. 387 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:38,460 So there you go. 388 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:40,060 AW all in recap interview. 389 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:45,300 Feel free to chime in over at patreon.com/srtupodcasts. 390 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:49,660 Moving on here, NXT Heat Wave, recap, review this past Sunday from the Bert Ogden Arena 391 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:53,180 in Innsburg, Texas at follow the Triple A show. 392 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:56,940 Jada Parker defeated Nadian submission match, the Vanity Project, defeated Miles Borne 393 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:59,940 and Tavion Heights to win the NXT Titan Championship. 394 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:05,460 Sorry, defeated Rentson Claire and Collie Armstrong and a winner take all match to win the WWE 395 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:09,780 Women's Speed Championship and to unify it with her NXT Women's North American Championship 396 00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:10,780 that she retained. 397 00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:16,620 She later dropped on Tuesday's edition of NXT, the Speed Championship which also just 398 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:19,380 randomly dropped the men's title as well. 399 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:22,820 Jackson Drake defeated in just a backstage segment. 400 00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:26,500 Jackson Drake defeated Miles Borne to win the NXT North American Championship. 401 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:30,060 Miles Borne takes out Tavion Heights post match. 402 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:34,060 Clonnie Jordan Feet's Ken Elgrey to win the NXT Women's Championship, Grace and Waller 403 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:38,820 defeats Tony D'Angelo, Cruz Montana and Zillow Fattu in a fatal four away match to win 404 00:23:38,820 --> 00:23:44,380 the NXT Championship which then takes us into our question from last week was whether 405 00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:49,060 WWE was already ready to put the NXT Championship on Zillow Fattu. 406 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:51,700 Obviously they weren't but that didn't keep it on. 407 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:54,020 They didn't keep it on Tony D'Angelo either. 408 00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:58,340 Grace and Waller walked out of Heat Wave as the NXT Champion and honestly that might 409 00:23:58,340 --> 00:24:01,700 have been the smartest option for WWE Dr. Trey. 410 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,780 Why does Waller make sense? 411 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:08,660 Because he gives NXT an established personality at the top while WWE continues developing Zillow 412 00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:11,780 without immediately putting the entire brand on his shoulder. 413 00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:14,500 He was protecting that fatal four away match, Zillow Fattu. 414 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:19,060 Then he came back on Tuesday, won his first NXT singles match against Tristan Angels and 415 00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:21,700 rejected birthrights attempt to recruit him. 416 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:25,460 So he's clearly still being positioned as something important. 417 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:28,460 Then you've got Miles Bourne losing everything. 418 00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:31,580 He entered Heat Wave holding two championships, he left with zero. 419 00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:36,300 The fan needed a project took the tag titles Jackson Drake took the North American Championship. 420 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:40,540 And then Bourne's frustration boiled over when he attacked Tavion Heights afterward. 421 00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:44,340 That's probably the other major story worth watching coming out of Heat Wave is now 422 00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:47,460 how do they book Miles Bourne moving forward. 423 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:51,900 So some of the big questions coming out of Heat Wave Dr. Trey was putting the NXT Championship 424 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:56,460 on Grayson Waller the right move instead of immediately going with Zillow Fattu? 425 00:24:56,460 --> 00:25:00,380 >> Yeah, because it gives Zillow something to chase. 426 00:25:00,380 --> 00:25:05,140 If you're trying to make Zillow Fattu a baby face, then the chase is where people get invested. 427 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:08,540 We were just talking about earlier with Will Osprey. 428 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:13,540 People love watching baby faces chase down the slimy heel. 429 00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:17,620 And even the way Grayson won the badge is that slimy heel character. 430 00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:19,500 I don't know about you. 431 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,820 I feel like their positioning Grayson is their answer in NXT to MJF. 432 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:25,340 >> He's always been that way. 433 00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:26,340 >> Yeah. 434 00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:29,180 >> But they're really leaning into it now. 435 00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:35,860 It's a smart move because here's a guy with main, he's been main roster level talent. 436 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:39,740 He knows how to work a crowd, he knows how to work an audience. 437 00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:44,740 He's a guy that you can kind of build baby faces off of especially young baby faces. 438 00:25:44,740 --> 00:25:48,980 So it's the right move especially if you're trying to get the belt off Tony D. 439 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:50,980 Because I like Tony D. 440 00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:54,300 I think Tony D's what we call the business a good hand. 441 00:25:54,300 --> 00:26:02,100 I just don't know if Tony D's a main event guy because the entire men's division has kind of felt flat with Tony D on top. 442 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:06,540 And maybe Grayson is that spark to kind of light a fire under the men's division. 443 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:10,940 So I think it was a smart move on their part to move the title over Grayson. 444 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:15,860 >> The I totally agree and I think Grayson Wallars comparisons to MJF has been going on. 445 00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:20,020 To for me, at least as a fan since 2021 when he debuted in NXT and 446 00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:24,100 started having more of a heel character and it was very much straight from the hip. 447 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:28,380 Believes what he says, controversial and what he says, pushes the envelope. 448 00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:30,460 And it's the type of heel that I love. 449 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:33,100 And it was surprising when they ended up pairing him with a new day and 450 00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,500 he would a little bit more comedy is like big G. 451 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,340 Because I just didn't think that fit him. 452 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:41,260 I do believe Grayson Wallars can be a guy in the main roster. 453 00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:47,460 And according to reports right now, I think Russell Votes said reported today that this is like being left that is a little bit of a reset. 454 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:54,300 And that he can be serviceable and be successful on the main roster in the current role it is being given to him. 455 00:26:54,300 --> 00:27:02,540 You brought up Tony D'Angelo and that's interesting thing because there were some conflicting reports that there was a potential call up for him following heat wave. 456 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,980 So he appeared on Tuesday's edition of heat wave that doesn't appear to be the case. 457 00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:12,980 And when you really take a step back when it comes to Tony D, Dr. Trey, he's been in NXT for five years now. 458 00:27:12,980 --> 00:27:17,060 He's got to be one of the longest tenured NXT wrestlers ever. 459 00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:21,740 He was in the 2.0 air, he had the gimmick of the dawn, he's completely shed to that away. 460 00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:26,140 I did to feel like if they were going to make a move, they were going to do it coming out of heat wave. 461 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:28,580 That at least on the short term may not be the case. 462 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:35,500 He's a guy to me that the only place I could see him fitting on the main roster right now is if you call them up and put him in the vision. 463 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,620 I think he fits that mold of the vision. 464 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:41,980 He's reportedly very, very good friends with Braun Breaker. 465 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,860 That is the only place I could see him right now. 466 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:51,020 Outside of that I have no idea because I think that they had a gimmick as the dawn of NXT where they could have easily elevated him to the main roster. 467 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:55,580 So yeah, I mean it's kind of clouded for a guy that's very talented. 468 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:58,100 He cuts good promos. 469 00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:03,060 I think he's a very strong in-ring worker, but he's just kind of dull at this point. 470 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:10,140 They took a character that was really, really popular and I totally understand why they got rid of it because it was so cartoony at times. 471 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:17,020 But they made him dull and boring, which I is sad to say because he gets in the ring and I don't find that whatsoever. 472 00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:25,540 I kind of liked the crow sting that he was rocking for a period of time when he made his return and the second incarnation on NXT. 473 00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:28,740 I thought that was something they could have worked on as well. 474 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:31,660 So where he goes from here is a big one. 475 00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:34,140 And then the other one is Zillow Fought 2, Doctor Trey. 476 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:36,500 Where does Zillow fit into the NXT Championship picture? 477 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:40,700 He wasn't in that triple, that three on three match. 478 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:49,620 They're going to be setting up for next week's, or this coming weeks NXT with a winning three member team then fights each other in triple threat to face Grayson Walters' next opponent. 479 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:53,140 Zillow looks like he's going to be wrestling the birth right. 480 00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:56,940 There's some rumblings that he may be called up to the main roster sooner rather than later. 481 00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:59,940 I mean, does he fit into the NXT Championship picture at all? 482 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:05,820 I mean, I think he does, but I think it's one of those things where like, hey, let's get his feet wet. 483 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:08,260 Let's get him out here. 484 00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:10,580 Let the fans know he has a big deal. 485 00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:17,060 And in a sense, they actually listened to the crowd because he came out and he was saying he earned his spot. 486 00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:21,980 But then Robert Stone immediately puts him in a main event title match and everybody's like, 487 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:23,940 look at the nepotism. 488 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:27,380 Now he's literally fighting nepotism. 489 00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:33,220 So in a sense, it's a good spot for him to be in because they can always cycle in. 490 00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:38,220 And maybe in reality is they're trying to figure out who they want to move up and who they want to keep. 491 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:44,660 I mean, you're looking at a roster now in NXT with Cruz Montana, former TNA World Champion, 492 00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:52,100 Nauraku, former New Japan World Champion, you got Zilla, you got Tony D, you got Grayson, 493 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,820 you got a pretty stack and that's not even counting the young guys like Kiyano, 494 00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:57,820 Carver, some of the other ones we've seen. 495 00:29:57,820 --> 00:30:03,500 You've got a pretty stacked men's division, so maybe there are some call ups and that's kind of a Zilla, 496 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:08,540 maybe in a holding pattern until they make some roster changes, I guess. 497 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:15,980 But I think he got the credibility from being in the main event match and then putting him with a slimy, 498 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:23,820 he-o-like Lexus King, who apparently is the worst negotiator in the history of wrestling where they, 499 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:30,300 the one girl, Zarya, she gets to retire the belt and unifying all the way down in the one. 500 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:36,140 And Robert Stone goes, hey, Lexus, by the way, we're retiring that belt, sorry about your luck yet. 501 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:37,460 >> Zarya, you need to get socializing. 502 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,980 >> Your future as well. 503 00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:41,940 >> Yeah, yeah, like Zarya retired his belt. 504 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,020 You know what I'm saying? 505 00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:47,900 Like, he didn't get a title match out, instead he got super kicked in the face by Zilla Fah, too. 506 00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,500 Like horrible negotiating skills there, kid. 507 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:57,540 But yeah, I think Zilla's one of those guys that you can kind of not temper him down, 508 00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:01,420 but slow it down a little bit, let him build up some in-ring work. 509 00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:05,020 I mean, the birthright for what you want to say about anybody in that group, 510 00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:09,060 they're all damn good in-ring wrestlers, every single one of the guys. 511 00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:14,820 Even stacks has gotten way better than he was early in his NXT career. 512 00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:22,060 But Charlie, Dems, he Lexus King, stacks, he's got some good people in the ring to work with, 513 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:28,620 and develop his character more before either the back to the main event picture or up to the main roster. 514 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:30,620 >> Yeah, it's an interesting time in NXT right now. 515 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:38,180 There's so much change over that, at least on the men's side, that there's times I get really excited about it, 516 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,820 and then there's times where I'm like, where the hell is this going? 517 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:40,980 And that's kind of where it is right now. 518 00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:42,860 It's like where the hell is this going? 519 00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:45,100 It certainly did not see Grease and Waller being at the top of the chain, 520 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,500 but we'll see where things go after Tuesday's edition of NXT. 521 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,700 From one potential member in the bloodline in Zilla Fah, two Dr. Trey, 522 00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:57,020 we do switch gears now to a former member of the bloodline, 523 00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:01,900 and that is being once again, Sammy Zayn, who was potentially 524 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:07,460 hijacked, CM Punk's title picture, because I want to know, is it getting better or 525 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:12,740 messier coming out of another edition of SmackDown where Sammy Zayn is like losing his mind? 526 00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:18,340 So last week, Sammy Zayn snapped, this week he basically decided nobody gets CM Punk until he says so. 527 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:22,900 You had Kevin Owens, gone through Finn Balor, they were supposed to determine Punk's next challenger on SmackDown. 528 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:28,180 Instead, Sammy interfered, he pulled Balor out, he took out one referee, then another referee, 529 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:34,300 Punk ended up coming down, Owens got involved, and by the end, Sammy was standing over everybody holding WWE Championship, 530 00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,500 as the triple threat ended without a winner. 531 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:41,420 So instead of answering who Punk's next challenger is, WWE made the situation even more complicated. 532 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:45,740 But I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing, because why is this working? 533 00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:49,780 Sammy's character now feels obsessed with the idea that Punk is something that belongs to him. 534 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:53,300 Owens still wants another opportunity, gone through Balor, robbed of theirs. 535 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,420 Suddenly, Punk has an entire group of challengers circling him, and 536 00:32:56,420 --> 00:33:03,500 Sammy feels less like another challenger, more like the person creating chaos around the entire championship picture on SmackDown. 537 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:09,300 So my question for you, Dr. Trey, is Sammy Zayn making CM Punk's championship brain more compelling? 538 00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,700 Or is WWE starting to over complicate the title picture on SmackDown? 539 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:19,340 >> No, I think it's making a way more compelling because the great thing about the Sammy character right now is, 540 00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:25,700 what his character is doing is completely believable and understandable. 541 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:30,380 So we've sat here for months now, I'm like, man, Sammy's getting screwed left and right. 542 00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:32,820 And as a fan, you go, dude, I get that. 543 00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:37,180 I get his frustration, I get why he's so pissed off, I get his anger. 544 00:33:37,180 --> 00:33:43,740 And it almost makes you still want to root for him even though he's the villain in all of this, in a sense. 545 00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:45,900 So I think it makes it more compelling. 546 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:51,740 And plus, it creates a title picture that is not involved, Cody Rhodes or Randy Orton, or 547 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:53,940 the soon to be returning Drew McIntyre. 548 00:33:53,940 --> 00:34:00,780 So there's still three more guys, so in a sense, you're elevating the rest of the division by doing this storyline. 549 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:08,620 So then when you cycle those three guys back into the picture, you've got eight guys who are legitimate world title getters. 550 00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:12,620 And that's not even counting Dave McIntyre because we don't know where his character's going yet. 551 00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:19,340 So you have eight to nine credible world title challengers on the SmackDown brand right now, 552 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:22,100 because of the way the storylines being played out. 553 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,620 So I asked this question last week, what's the biggest match coming out of this? 554 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:30,580 Is it Punk versus Sammy, Punk versus Owens, Punk versus Sammy versus Owens? 555 00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:36,660 But we're going to take the same question for the last week and now we're going to throw in Gunther and Finn Balor as well, Dr. Trey. 556 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:39,660 What's the best match coming out of this for CM Punk? 557 00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:43,740 Is it Punk versus one of these individuals in a triple threat, or is it all five? 558 00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:48,900 >> I'm still going to go back to the triple threat of Sammy Kevin and CM Punk. 559 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:53,540 And that just be an honestly Jeff that is literally the bias of SRTU. 560 00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:57,140 Like those are my three favorite guys from the time we've been doing this show. 561 00:34:57,140 --> 00:35:00,940 And if we can get them all sprinkled into one match, I'm on board with it. 562 00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:07,380 I still think as much as I like Finn Balor, he still needs a little bit more credibility built. 563 00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:12,580 Because we saw him getting his ass kicked in Judgment Day for quite a long time. 564 00:35:12,580 --> 00:35:17,540 He's got to get over the hump and we haven't seen him get over the hump on the SmackDown brand. 565 00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:20,820 Maybe a feud with Gunther does that for him. 566 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:25,460 And then coming out of that feud is who goes for Punk after Sammy and Kevin. 567 00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:29,140 I just think Balor needs a little more. 568 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:33,780 And Gunther, as much as I love Gunther, I don't know what it is. 569 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:35,940 He just feels flat to me. 570 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:36,940 >> Hmm. 571 00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:38,340 >> I don't know what it is. 572 00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:43,940 I don't think it's been, it's this start and stop booking of Gunther over the last year, 573 00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:47,020 where I just kind of feel like right now he's flat. 574 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:53,980 And I don't know if he needs a Kevin Owens or he needs a Damian or somebody else to really light a fire on him. 575 00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,580 It just right now Gunther feels flat. 576 00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,780 So I'm still going to go back to what I said last week. 577 00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:03,220 Sammy, Kevin and Punk would be the match I want to see as a Triple Threat match. 578 00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:07,220 >> You took my follow question there by your answer, but that's fine. 579 00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:11,340 Because I just feel like WWE is really setting themselves up right now for fatal five way. 580 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:12,100 Because I agree with you. 581 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,020 I would have loved to see him just a Triple Threat. 582 00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:16,180 But what would we do? 583 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:16,940 How do we get there? 584 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:22,020 I mean, if you remove Gunther and Baller from it, those two guys are going to feud with one another. 585 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:26,820 So something needs to happen in this current build where why they would separate from one another. 586 00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:30,780 It feels like to me that the safe is bet. 587 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:35,900 And I wonder if this is more protection because Kevin's coming back from injury. 588 00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:40,260 Sammy is currently injured with a broken hand, which took out Willow Knight and Galen A.W. 589 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:42,580 Gunther and Baller for all we know is healthy. 590 00:36:42,580 --> 00:36:46,340 I wonder if this is just kind of setting up for a little bit of protection right now. 591 00:36:46,340 --> 00:36:51,540 Before we get to an eventual punk versus Owens versus Zayn match, because maybe Owens is still 592 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:56,180 rehabbing coming back from his time on the show for 18 months and 593 00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,740 Sammy's not fully healthy back. 594 00:36:57,740 --> 00:37:01,020 >> Well, I mean, they're not playing it safe with Kevin. 595 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:09,260 I mean, he's already had, he came back, had the match at Summerslam or not Summerslam, whatever. 596 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:10,100 >> Yeah, Summerslam. 597 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,140 >> Yeah, Summerslam. 598 00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:12,300 He's already had the match. 599 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:13,580 This is like, he's already had four matches. 600 00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,260 Three matches has he been back from? 601 00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:16,260 Can I interrupt on that? 602 00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:17,260 >> Can I interrupt on that? 603 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,260 >> Because you would know this being in the wrestling business. 604 00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:22,860 So my understanding is when you're in a multi-person match like Kevin Owens has been in, right? 605 00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:26,580 The only one on one match that he's been in was with against Punk on SmackDown. 606 00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:30,460 And I'm not counting any of the house show stuff because I'm not fully aware of what he's been doing on the house show. 607 00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:35,860 But he's been protected in these fatal four ways, tag team matches, multi-person matches, whatever. 608 00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:42,380 My understanding as a fan is the reason why you do that is to protect someone who may be a little bit banged up, 609 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:48,740 needs a little bit of a rest, a little bit of a break, isn't fully back in the swing of things because I thought that's the reason why like Paige has been. 610 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:54,700 And even the pelas themselves have been protected in some of these tag team matches due to some of their long-term injury history. 611 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,380 And in Orin for a period of time, was doing the same thing with Matt Reddle. 612 00:37:57,380 --> 00:38:04,980 >> Yes, to a degree that you're trying to protect the long-term investment of it by doing multi-man matches. 613 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:15,660 But I mean, when you got there and maybe wrestling CM Punk, who's arguably one of the best in-ring wrestlers of all time and one of the safest guys is also protecting him. 614 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:19,140 But it's also a lot of times it's also just protecting him against cardio. 615 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:24,140 And maybe they're still trying to get his cardio back up as your dog told me I'm wrong. 616 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:26,060 >> Yes. >> Somebody must be nearby. 617 00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:32,300 >> But yeah, multi-man matches is either A, you're protecting storyline investment, 618 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:41,700 where you don't want a certain person to take a loss, or you're trying to protect a returning person more of their cardio than the injury side of it. 619 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:49,780 Because it gives them breathers in the match to kind of go a full 20 or 30 minutes or maybe one on one, they couldn't do it. 620 00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:58,820 So it is a little bit of protection, but like in that situation, these multi-man matches, it doesn't hurt the momentum of your returning guy. 621 00:38:58,820 --> 00:39:05,780 If they're not the one getting the victory in the multi-man match because they're also not the one taking the loss. 622 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:06,780 >> Interesting, interesting. 623 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:17,220 I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts on what matches or matches you'd like to see over at patreon.com/sr2podcastcomment on this downloadable episode over at the Patreon page. 624 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:22,140 Dr. Trace switching gears over to the red brand. 625 00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:30,780 We had Penta beading Ray Phoenix. He will now be taking on Roman Reigns in a World Heavyweight Championship match in Mexico City in less than two weeks. 626 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:37,180 And the question I have here is, is can WWE make him against Roman Reigns feel bigger than a predictable title fence? 627 00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:42,740 And the reason behind this in the background on this is because last week we asked which lucha brother should win. 628 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,900 WWE chose Penta. We, you and I, were leaning towards Penta. 629 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:51,700 And Penta and Ray Phoenix delivered an instant classic on Raw before Penta earned the biggest singles opportunity with WWE career. 630 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:56,020 Roman Reigns World Heavyweight Championship Mexico City on September 14th. 631 00:39:56,020 --> 00:40:01,220 But here's the real opportunity. We all know Roman is going to be the favorite. That's not really the interesting part. 632 00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:06,180 The interesting part is whether WWE can use this match to move Penta permanently up the card. 633 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:13,220 Wrestling is filled with title challenger. Everyone knows probably aren't winning and Penta certainly is one of them. 634 00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:17,540 The best version of those matches leave the challenger feeling like a bigger star afterward anyway. 635 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:23,180 The example I use, Bret Hart versus 1-2-3 Kid, July 11th, 1994 edition of Monday Night Raw. 636 00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:29,300 Go watch if you've never seen it. That is an example of this. This feels like that opportunity for Penta. 637 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:39,300 So my question for you, Dr. Dre, is can Penta lose to Roman Reigns in Mexico City and still come out of the match feeling like a legitimate WWE main event player? 638 00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:49,860 Yeah. You also have to play into a little more getting people to know who Penta is. His story. 639 00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:58,180 You want to get people emotionally invested in Penta. The person and not just the cool mask and the cool moves and the Sierra Madden. 640 00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:01,700 No, Sierra M-Sero Miao, though, couldn't say it for a second. 641 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:08,020 Like, being a cool looking guy with some cool moves and a cool catchphrase is great. It'll get you over. 642 00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:16,500 But to get that long-term investment in somebody, you kind of got to know their story, you kind of got to feel like this is a guy I can root for. 643 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:22,860 And the great thing about this WWE has been looking for this type of person for the better part of 20 years. 644 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:35,940 They've been looking for that Rey Mysterio replacement who can be the guy that fans can gravitate towards from the Hispanic culture and be that face of that demographic. 645 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:50,260 So if you invest in it right, then yeah, Penta can take off and be that guy for this division and always be an upper mid card main event level kind of guy that in a pinch, you can pull the trigger. 646 00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:56,340 We saw, I mean, we saw years ago when punk left the company and they had the one night tournament to crown a champion. 647 00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:00,980 It was Rey. They pulled the trigger with it. Rey hadn't been doing a whole lot right before that. 648 00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:07,220 I mean, you can always go to it as long as you have that long-term emotional investment in your character. 649 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:11,980 >> Yeah, it's going to be a very, I have high hopes for this match. 650 00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:15,180 I really think this could be a massive breakthrough moment for Penta. 651 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:17,260 I think the crowd is going to be phenomenal. 652 00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:21,980 I think the match is going to be really good and I think Roman Reigns is going to make a star that night. 653 00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:22,780 I certainly hope so. 654 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:26,540 I hope we come out of here in two, three weeks time after that Monday night, Rodrigo. 655 00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:31,140 Well, did that Penta match like live up to the expectations we've been building over these last several weeks? 656 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:36,780 And it's rare that we get this opportunity to really hype up a raw match like this. 657 00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:37,380 But here we are. 658 00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:42,100 And this is the same blueprint I wish they did with Kevin Owens on the Smackdown side. 659 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:48,220 Give me a couple weeks to build towards that big match with CM Punk on Smackdown for the World of the Witch or WWE Championship. 660 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:50,220 I should say in Toronto, Canada. 661 00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:54,500 I think that a lot more to do with the calendar than what was the flexibility here. 662 00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:57,540 But maybe WWE learned from that in future. 663 00:42:57,540 --> 00:43:04,860 It's just because Penta is going to be the home country boy against Roman Reigns on Monday, September 14th. 664 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:06,380 And that was a great match against Rey Phoenix. 665 00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:07,780 And I think they've got something with both guys. 666 00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:17,020 For me, I love that Rey Phoenix, even in a loss, has become someone that is living up to the potential that I had for him as a fan watching in the last several years in TNA and A.W. 667 00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:20,820 As someone that I enjoy watching wrestling and think WWE could really capitalize on. 668 00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:27,700 And I think he has upped his game and his viewing in WWE in both the fan's eyes as well as the creative eyes. 669 00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:32,540 And that's what's really exciting to see right now in Roll of the City Entertainment. 670 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:37,860 Lastly here Dr. Trey, let's preview and predict WWE Sunday Night's Main event. 671 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:41,580 It comes to us this Sunday from the State Farm Arena in Atlanta GA. 672 00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:47,180 We've got an interesting card here because two matches are doing most of the heavy lifting for me. 673 00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:50,140 We've got Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton has 20 years of history behind it. 674 00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:52,660 It's a rematch of a Russell medium main event. 675 00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:54,500 And then you've got Oba Femme and Braun Breaker. 676 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,060 That's literally the match up we spent weeks debating whether WWE should even be giving us this soon. 677 00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:01,420 Now we're getting both on the same show. 678 00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:03,060 So what am I most interested in? 679 00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:06,100 Oba vs Braun is the match I'm most fascinated by. 680 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,140 We've talked about these two potential becoming WWE's scene and batiss of the next generation. 681 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:11,460 We've talked about keeping them apart. 682 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:13,500 We've talked about letting them build separate legacies. 683 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,260 Instead, WWE is putting them together now. 684 00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:19,340 So if you're doing it, make it matter. 685 00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:26,180 The biggest booking challenge is finding a finish that doesn't make either guy feel smaller coming out of Sunday. 686 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:30,820 So before we get into the card itself, Dr. Trey, who could afford the loss more? 687 00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:32,540 Oba Femme or Braun Breaker? 688 00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:36,900 Oba can afford the loss more. 689 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:40,780 He's got the credibility of the Brock Lesnar feud. 690 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:43,900 He's super over with the audience. 691 00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:49,140 If you get the vision involved or it takes three guys to put him down, he can afford the loss. 692 00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:51,500 I don't think Braun Breaker can afford the loss. 693 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:56,940 Unless you're going to go in a completely different direction with him and break him away from the vision. 694 00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:02,020 As long as he's part of the vision, he can't afford that loss right now. 695 00:45:02,020 --> 00:45:04,100 Just because you know what I'm talking about. 696 00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,580 His career has kind of, he was super hyped. 697 00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:11,700 And then over the last six months, it's cooled down dramatically. 698 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,420 He really needs a big victory. 699 00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,180 You know, he lost in the rivalry with Seth. 700 00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:26,740 He needs something to kind of put his stamp on himself as being that 1B to Oba's 1A going forward in the future. 701 00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:28,940 So I think Braun needs the win. 702 00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,140 Oba can afford the loss. 703 00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,620 Yeah, Braun certainly needs the win. 704 00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:35,460 I totally agree with you on that. 705 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:37,020 I just don't see them doing it. 706 00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:44,580 It could be one of those instances where a loss is what causes him to snap and that makes him more compelling as a character. 707 00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:48,620 Or we get Paul Heyman involved and that's how Braun Breaker wins in his feet. 708 00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:50,100 Oba Femi. 709 00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:50,780 But yeah, I'm with you. 710 00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:55,380 I think Braun can, Oba can afford the loss more. 711 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,540 Braun needs the win more, right? 712 00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,060 Is that we're both in agreement on that? 713 00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:04,620 Yeah, and plus doing it on a Sunday night heat. 714 00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:06,780 Or CB Sunday night main event. 715 00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:07,620 Black back. 716 00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:09,740 They should have called it so it's not. 717 00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:12,860 But doing it on a Sunday night main event. 718 00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:14,820 It's not a giant PLEA. 719 00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:15,860 It's not Summerslam. 720 00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:17,900 It's not WrestleMania. 721 00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:23,460 You know, it's probably it's on Pekock and I think most of us canceled our subscription to Pekock. 722 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:24,460 Hand up. 723 00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:28,980 Yeah, when it went when everything moved out. 724 00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:34,460 There's not going to be as many eyes on this match as it would be if it was survivor series. 725 00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:38,540 You know, so I think in that instance you can actually have Oba take the loss. 726 00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:40,380 It doesn't hurt him that much. 727 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:45,660 But if Oba wins and Braun loses, loses cleanly, people are going to start, you know, second 728 00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:49,300 guessing, you know, what are you doing with Braun Breaker? 729 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,500 Yeah, no, absolutely. 730 00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:55,060 So I mean, WWE obviously sees these two as the future. 731 00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:56,300 I think we can agree on this. 732 00:46:56,300 --> 00:47:02,740 We believe that this match should have a definitive winner. 733 00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:09,020 I mean, I don't I think even if the bad guys cheat to win, it's still a definitive. 734 00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,100 That's what I'm saying. 735 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,700 Yeah, we need a definitive winner. 736 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,660 We cannot have a double count out, you know, DQ, any of that BS. 737 00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:16,660 Yeah. 738 00:47:16,660 --> 00:47:17,660 Okay, yes, absolutely. 739 00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:23,660 You need a winner in this match because if you do something like, oh, it's the match got thrown 740 00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:28,660 out or it's a double disqualification or a double count out, it's just going to piss people 741 00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:29,660 off. 742 00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:34,700 And if the bad guys cheat to win, it's still you need one person to kind of get that upper 743 00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:35,700 hand. 744 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:40,300 So when you cycle this rivalry back up, you can go, oh, well, Braun, Braun, the only guy 745 00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,460 that has a winning record against Oba. 746 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:46,780 Now there's another obstacle for Oba to overcome for his, when he comes for his come-up 747 00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:47,780 ends. 748 00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:48,780 There you go. 749 00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:53,380 It'll be this Sunday, Peacock, Peacock, Braun Breaker versus Oba Femme. 750 00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,060 Let's get into the car, Dr. Trey with our predictions. 751 00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:59,580 Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss and Tatum Paxley would be taking on Jade Cargo, Meetion and 752 00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:02,860 BFAB in a six woman tag team match. 753 00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:03,860 I'll go first here. 754 00:48:03,860 --> 00:48:07,460 I'm going to take Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss and Tatum Paxley in this one. 755 00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:11,620 Yeah, I am too because I mean, dear God, it's Meetion and BFAB. 756 00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:13,460 So you can have either one of them take the loss. 757 00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:14,460 It doesn't hurt Jade. 758 00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:17,660 So yeah, it takes Charlotte, Alexa and Tatum as well. 759 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:20,260 You got Baron Corbin versus Little Yachty. 760 00:48:20,260 --> 00:48:24,580 If Little Yachty lasts five minutes, Trick William earns a United States championship 761 00:48:24,580 --> 00:48:27,460 reader match later that night. 762 00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:28,460 I start with you. 763 00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:33,260 How do you predict this one? 764 00:48:33,260 --> 00:48:37,380 So right now, is there only the four matches listed on the car? 765 00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:38,380 How many? 766 00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,540 Only four matches announced. 767 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:45,780 Okay, so I will take Little Yachty lasting the five minutes to get Trick William's the 768 00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:48,140 match later in the show. 769 00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:49,940 Is that how we're predicting this? 770 00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:51,900 Yeah, that's how we have to. 771 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:57,260 I'm going to take Baron Corbin. 772 00:48:57,260 --> 00:49:03,980 I know Storyline Sense tells me that it should be Little Yachty because we'll get that match. 773 00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:06,740 But I can't see the way I look at it. 774 00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:08,500 So it's the five minutes. 775 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,540 I look at it like they do it. 776 00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:12,020 You have 30 minutes here, 30 minutes. 777 00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:16,220 It's a two hour show, roughly around two hours, 30, 30, 30, 30. 778 00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,740 All right, I'm with you. 779 00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:20,140 I'm going to take Little Yachty as well. 780 00:49:20,140 --> 00:49:22,060 I think it's just five minutes. 781 00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:24,540 Then you got enough time for the rest of the United States championship match. 782 00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:28,580 It's in Atlanta, which I think Yachty is from Georgia. 783 00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:30,420 Yeah, he's like a Georgia kid. 784 00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:33,180 So I will take Little Yachty as well. 785 00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,620 Oba Femi versus Braun Breaker. 786 00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:37,780 There must be a winner. 787 00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:40,700 Man, this is a tough one. 788 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:44,860 I am going to take... 789 00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:45,980 I'm going to take Braun Breaker. 790 00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:46,980 He needs this one a lot. 791 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:48,460 I'm going to take Braun Braun. 792 00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:56,020 Yeah, I'm leaning into my wrestling book or card that if I want both these guys to maintain 793 00:49:56,020 --> 00:49:58,100 upward trajectory. 794 00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,020 Braun needs it more. 795 00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:02,980 Yeah, we're going to have like 37 viewers on Peacock. 796 00:50:02,980 --> 00:50:03,980 So I don't have the fans won't. 797 00:50:03,980 --> 00:50:05,700 And not many people will miss it. 798 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:07,340 So I'll take Braun winning as well. 799 00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:09,940 And then lastly, Dr. Trayk Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton. 800 00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:12,980 Who do you got? 801 00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:13,980 This is the hard one. 802 00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:19,500 This is actually for me harder to pick than Oba and Braun. 803 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:24,100 It's almost like picking against Super Cena in a lot of ways. 804 00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:27,500 My brain says Cody, my heart says Randy. 805 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,060 So I'm going to go my heart on this one. 806 00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:32,700 I'm going to go with Randy getting some kind of win, even though it isn't Atlanta, which 807 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,300 is Cody's adopted hometown. 808 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:41,300 But if Yachty is going to win in Atlanta, then Cody's got to lose in Atlanta. 809 00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:44,820 I'll take Randy getting the win. 810 00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:45,820 That's the balance point. 811 00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:49,220 Little Yachty is somehow affecting Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton. 812 00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:51,260 I'm going to take Randy Orton in this one as well. 813 00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:57,020 I think Randy needs a victory to keep this feud nice and spicy for a while because Cody 814 00:50:57,020 --> 00:50:58,020 is not going to be in it. 815 00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:01,780 I feel like Cody and Randy won't be in the title picture for the short term at least. 816 00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:03,060 All right, there you go. 817 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:07,900 We will recap and review Sunday Night's Mid event all on next week's edition of SRTU. 818 00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:09,980 With that said, let's get a couple plugs and spots. 819 00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:14,040 This is out of the way you can download the show at patreon.com/srtupodcast. 820 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,540 And the store will show feed on Apple's Spotify, where we download this podcast. 821 00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:19,380 Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe. 822 00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:22,660 You could fall individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff. 823 00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:25,060 And for Dr. Dre Franklin, if you'd like to see Dr. Dre, and of course don't forget to 824 00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:27,900 fall show on X at SRTU podcast. 825 00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:32,460 With that being said, what is going on in the one full world of Dr. Dre Franklin this week? 826 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:35,700 Well, like Jeff said, you can find me on X at the Dr. Dre. 827 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,500 You can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Dr. Dre Franklin. 828 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,300 When you're on Facebook, be sure to check out Rocketsy, Championship Wrestling. 829 00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:48,420 We have a big show coming up this Saturday, the fifth from the luxurious Hazel Green, Alabama. 830 00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:53,240 But if you want to go out and check out past episodes, you can go to youtube.com/rocketsy. 831 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,800 Championship Wrestling. 832 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,940 See the entire video catalog of all the Rocketsy shows. 833 00:51:58,940 --> 00:52:04,180 See some of your favorite stars that you see pop up in NXT and TN or AW that have all 834 00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:07,740 the trick you'll get through the Rocketsy. 835 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:10,900 Including the previously mentioned Lexus King, who's actually been featured in Rocketsy 836 00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:11,900 a few times. 837 00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,700 But most importantly, get out there, support your local independent wrestling shows, where 838 00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:23,100 you too can also go out there and find your next show that tries to copy the Fuzzy United 839 00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:26,660 States Championship, title the UGS United States. 840 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:27,660 I don't know. 841 00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:28,660 Is that sponsored yet? 842 00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:32,140 Can you buy that on W on shopw.com? 843 00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:34,140 I've not looked for it. 844 00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:36,140 I would assume it will be up there soon. 845 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:39,140 I mean, talk about, I mean, that's not good. 846 00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:48,580 I mean, I'm just like, I would take any of the Canadian or I think, the Spinner Bells. 847 00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:49,580 Spinner Bells. 848 00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:56,780 The Spinner Bells, even though like when I think, what was the guy's name that was back, he was 849 00:52:56,780 --> 00:53:01,060 Japanese, Smackdown, United States Champion, like in the early 2010s. 850 00:53:01,060 --> 00:53:05,860 Was supposed to be a big star and then they pair him in law, resistance for a little bit. 851 00:53:05,860 --> 00:53:09,060 Oh, like, Hedekko Suzuki or something, Hedekko Suzuki? 852 00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:10,060 Yes, yes. 853 00:53:10,060 --> 00:53:13,980 Didn't he have like a Japanese version of the U.S. title as well at one point? 854 00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:14,980 I got a sworn union. 855 00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:15,980 I'll have to take a look at that. 856 00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:19,940 Because the Canadian gimmick that Kevin O'Hase did and even Ethan Page there was not 857 00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:20,940 new. 858 00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:21,940 No, not Hedekko, Hedekko. 859 00:53:21,940 --> 00:53:22,940 We have this. 860 00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:24,940 Oh, who was that now? 861 00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:26,940 It was something Suzuki though. 862 00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:27,940 Yeah. 863 00:53:27,940 --> 00:53:33,860 But this may be the ugliest championship belt I have ever seen. 864 00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:34,860 I don't know. 865 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:37,940 It just reminds me of that. 866 00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:39,940 Kenzo Suzuki. 867 00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:41,420 Kenzo Suzuki, yes. 868 00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:44,260 It just reminds me of that flow rise all of the boots with the fur. 869 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:46,340 This is the belt with the fur. 870 00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:48,780 So yeah, that this is, it's, it's got awful. 871 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:52,460 But some show will try to copy it if you're out there, it's sports locally, the pen and 872 00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:53,460 wrestling show. 873 00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:54,460 There you go. 874 00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:57,060 Support all the great things that support SRT if you would be so inclined. 875 00:53:57,060 --> 00:54:02,540 If you would like to gift that championship to Dr. Troy Franklin, we could start a nice 876 00:54:02,540 --> 00:54:05,900 little run here, a little go for me. 877 00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:07,940 Go for me page. 878 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:08,940 Go for me. 879 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:09,940 Go for me. 880 00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:10,940 There you go. 881 00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:12,940 That'll do it for this week's edition of SRTU. 882 00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:15,340 Thank you for making us part of your week. 883 00:54:15,340 --> 00:54:16,340 Enjoy the weekend. 884 00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:17,940 Another weekend filled with professional wrestling. 885 00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:20,900 Enjoy the Liberty holiday for those here in the United States that tune in and listen 886 00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:21,900 to SRTU. 887 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:26,860 Once again, we'll be back next week on September the 10th over at patreon.com/srtupodcast. 888 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:32,060 We will recap and review Sunday nights main event and everything that has gone on in the 889 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:34,340 world of professional wrestling. 890 00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:37,980 With that said, for Dr. Troy Franklin, I am Jeff Peck. 891 00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:39,900 This has been The Still Relays Show.