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Mega Edition: The Absence Of Alleged Co-Conspirator Testimony During The Maxwell Trial (4/26/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Email, and let's see what Daniel Bates has to say
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about the co conspirators. The Core four Turn and Snitch exclusive,
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Jeffrey Epstein's alleged co conspirators, including recruiters, sexual partners, and friends,
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are set to turn against Gilean Maxwell and testify in
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her trial later this year. We all knew it was coming.
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We all knew it was coming. Nobody's willing to go
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down with this ship. The second Epstein died and that
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money ran out, the party was over. These people aren't loyal.
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What do you think These are the Praetorian Guard. These
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aren't loyal people. These are people that were around Jeffrey
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Epstein because he had money, he had power, he had influence,
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and if it meant helping him abuse, rape and traffic children,
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so be it. As long as they we're advancing in
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their pathetic lives and their pathetic careers. Some of Jeffrey
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Epstein's alleged co conspirators are set to testify against Geelan
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Maxwell in her trial later this year, court documents suggest,
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and they definitely do. The new filings. When you read
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through them, folks, it's pretty apparent what's coming down the
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pipe now obviously I am certainly not a lawyer, but
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when you look at the wording and the things that
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are talked about in the briefings, it's pretty obvious what's
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coming down the pipe. Prosecutor said in a filing that
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the material for the trial includes any co conspirator's statements,
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a major sign that one of Epstein's inner circle has
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turned state's witness. And it could be more than one person,
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it could be moremultiple people. We don't know. We have
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no idea, but I always was under the impression that
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there were more sealed indictments that were just waiting to
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be unsealed in this case.
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Speaker 2: That's how it works usually.
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Speaker 1: So what they'll do is they'll get that seal indictment
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returned from the grand jury, and then they'll hold that
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sealed indictment over the alleged criminal's head. So we got
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this sealed indictment, you're going to trial. We're going to
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take you to trial, we're going to charge you, we're
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going to indict you. But if you play ball, if
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you snitch on your friend, if you talk to us
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about Maxwell and what occurred, we might be able to
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soften the blow.
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Speaker 2: A little bit.
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Speaker 1: And that's certainly what's going on here. That's certainly what's
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been going on here from the beginning, and all of
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these co conspirators, all of these friends, all of these enablers,
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they all should be waiting for that phone call at
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this point. Prosecutors said that nine weeks before the trial,
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which is set to begin in November, they would turn
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over to the defense the identity of any unindicted co
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conspirator they plan to call to give evidence. So the
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identity of any unindicted co conspirator, that's pretty interesting. So
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perhaps somebody who was not indicted they're going to be
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calling up as a witness as well. Pretty interesting. Now, again,
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we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
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All we know is what the prosecution tells us, and
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we have to try and fit the pieces together in
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lieu of that. So I think one thing that is
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most certain is that somebody is snitching. Somebody is talking,
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and probably multiple people. A separate filing from Maxwell seeking
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dismissal of the case says that one accuser was encouraged
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to recruit other females to provide massages to Epstein. The
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filings strongly indicate that some of the four women who
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were named as potential co conspirators under Epstein's Sweetheart Plea
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deal in two thousand and eight, under which he served
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just fifteen months in jail for having sex with children,
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could face off against Maxwell in court. Now, well, I
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think that's a good thing, right. I want them all
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to provide evidence against her and be states witnesses. I
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don't want to see them get off because of this.
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That certainly cannot be a road traveled, right. You can't
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let these co conspirators off. They played a huge part
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in this criminal conspiracy. So even if they're offering up
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information on Gui Lane, which is great, is that information
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what is really needed to get over the finish line?
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I know it helps, right, But if it was me
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as a prosecutor, I don't know if I'd give up
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indicting and convicting and going after the co conspirators just
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to get Maxwell. Considering we have so much evidence of
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Maxwell's involvement already, so I really, really really wonder what
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the prosecutor's game plan is here. The women in question
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have been accused of being Epstein's recruiters, groomers, sexual partners,
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and friends, and have almost always pleaded the fifth Amendment
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when questioned during depositions. And we've been through the core
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four at nauseum at this point, none of them have
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ever talked. None of them have ever come forward and
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spoke on the record about what they know about Epstein.
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None of them came forward to help with the investigation
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after the first time around, and all of them were
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protected by the non prosecution agreement. If they had nothing
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to do with it, if they really cared about these
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kids and they cared about justice, don't you think they
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would have come forward and said, look, this is what happened,
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ABC and D. But none of them did that. So
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because that happened, and because none of them came forward,
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none of them had even a glimmer of courage. I
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have no empathy for them, and I certainly don't believe
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the position that people have taken that, oh, well, these
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people are victims to Nope, I don't buy it. Sorry,
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that is just never going to work for me. They
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are Sarah Kellen, forty, who was accused of holding a
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rolodex of women she would call up for massages at
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Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach, Florida. Leslie Groff fifty three,
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is said to have been Epstein's executive assistant for twenty years,
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and said in a two thousand and five interview that
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she had such a tight bond with him. I know
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what he's what he is thinking. So she had such
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a tight bond with him, Leslie Groth that she knew
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what he was thinking, but she didn't know he was
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hurting kids, or molesting kids, or trafficking kids or anything
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like that. No idea about that they shared a brain though.
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She said. In fact, she was so integral to everything
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he had going on that when she was pregnant and
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leaving for her maternity leave that Epstein was he didn't
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know what he was gonna do with himself. He was
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besides himself. So for Leslie Groff to try and plead
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ignorance about what happened is an absolute joke, an absolute joke.
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And Sarah Kelln Vickers, She's probably the one spilling the beans, folks,
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That would be my guess. I don't have any you know,
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inside information, obviously, but out of all of these women,
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it looks like Sarah Kelln Vickers is probably the likeliest
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to be spilling the beans right now. And again, it
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might be multiple, it might be all of them. It
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really just depends on what the government was holding over
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their heads as far as leverage, and I really that's
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what it really comes down to. What kind of leverage
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does the federal government have on them to force them
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to become state's witness. Nadio Marsenko thirty five, is alleged
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to have taken part in sexual encounters with underage girls
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and has been described as Epstein's on and off girlfriend. Now,
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remember Nadia allegedly was purchased from her parents in Yugoslavia
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at fifteen years old and brought to Jeffrey Epstein to
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groom and make into She's disgusting even to say it,
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into what he wanted her to be.
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Speaker 2: So out of all of these girls.
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Speaker 1: Nadia is the only one, in my opinion, that deserves
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a double take, some serious time to consider her circumstances
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previously to being in Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere. I think that
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that's pretty important part of the story with Nadia. Now
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that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be brought in talked to,
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and if there's some charges that she gets hit with,
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then that's unfortunately part of it. But I definitely have
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empathy for her, and I think that of all of
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these core four, she is the only one that you
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can look at and say, man, her circumstances are pretty
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pretty rough. Adriana Ross is a former model from Poland
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in her thirties who allegedly helped to organize Epstein's massages.
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In a court filing late on Friday night, prosecutors in
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Maxwell's defense submitted competing timetables and logistics for the trial.
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Now that's going to happen for sure, right There's going
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to be back and forth between the prosecutors and the defense,
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and they're going to try and jockey for the best
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position in regards to their case. Prosecutors from the Southern
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District of New York said the materials during the trial
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will include testifying witness statements, which themselves will also include
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any co conspirator statements about which witnesses may testify at trial.
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So again, it's definitely coming down the pipe. There's going
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to be co conspirators testifying against Gilay Maxwell. That's a
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foregone conclusion at this point. The question is who is
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it going to be. Is it going to be just
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one of them? Is it going to be all of them?
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Very interesting stuff coming up, folks. But I will tell
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you this, I can't even begin to imagine the scene
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inside of that courtroom when this secuter said that they
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only intend to introduce co conspirators statements either through the
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testimony of witnesses or in the exhibits which.
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Speaker 2: Will be marked before trial.
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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some fireworks here. There's going to
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be some people turning on Gilay and Maxwell. We're gonna
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see it. That's how it always works, right. It's a
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dog eat dog war, a dog eat dog world, and
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there ain't no honor amongst thieves. Under the proposed prosecution timeline,
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they will hand over to the defense the government's witness list,
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any co conspirators statements that intends to introduce that trial,
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and the identity of any unindicted co conspirator on September
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twenty seventh, nine weeks before trial. So that still gives
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them time for indictments as well.
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Speaker 2: Remember we're not out.
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Speaker 1: Of the woods for any kind of superseded indictment here
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or more charges dropped on other people in regards to
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this case. That's still certainly something that is in the cards.
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The material will include documentary statements about co conspirators, eg
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emails between Epstein and any number of thousands of persons.
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The government said the few emails that have been made
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public in relationship to Epstein have emerged from a defamation
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case brought by epstein survivor Virginia Roberts against Maxwell. So
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there's gonna be a ton more coming out, folks. And
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remember PRESCA is still unsealing documents as well. So as
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this triald gets closer, looking like September, here for some
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more of these document dumps and for some more clarity,
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will have a better idea of the playing field. At
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that point, the case was settled, but a federal judge
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is ruled that the document should be made public, and
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they are being released in batches. Among the emails was
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one from Epstein to Maxwell on January twenty fourth, twenty fifteen,
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after Roberts accused her of recruiting and grooming her for
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Epstein to abuse. Epstein tells Maxwell, you have done nothing wrong,
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and I would urge you to start acting like it.
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Go outside head, not as an escaping convict. Go to parties,
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deal with it. I mean, what sage advice from Jeffrey Epstein.
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H yeah, just go out and deal with it, Go
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to parties, go hang out. The sad part is she
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would be accepted to these parties. She'd be allowed at
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these parties. Everybody would be welcoming at these parties. Hey,
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Jeff Bezos, why was Gelay Maxwell at your little function?
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In twenty eighteen, Maxwell's correspondence with Prince Andrew also made
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public and shows him asking about Roberts. If the alleged
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co conspirators do give evidence, it promises to be one
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of the most dramatic moments at Maxwell's trial. One hundred
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percent it'll be a holy shit moment. You know, there's
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like those pivotal moments and trials or throughout history when
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you know momentous occasions are occurring. This will be one
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of those, oh shit moments. Kellen has been accused of
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being Epstein and Maxwell's top lieutenant. She flew three hundred
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and fifty times on Epstein's private jet, known as the
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Lolita Express, and has been seen in photographs on his
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private island in the Caribbean. Again, folks, look, Sarah Kellen
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Vickers should have been arrested yesterday, yesterday, but somehow she's
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still floating around.
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Speaker 2: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps though she's not. Perhaps they are speaking to her
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behind the scenes, and perhaps she is going to be
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the one sitting across from Maxwell giving testimony. Epstein survivor
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Sarah Ransom has said that it was Gelayin and Sarah
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Kellen that showed me how to please Jeffrey. Right there
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alone is enough bring her in. What are we waiting for,
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Maureen Comy? I mean, look, when you have these survivors
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saying that these people took direct part in abusing them,
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I think that levels it up a bit, right. I
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think that should be taken very, very seriously. But somehow,
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for all of these years, it's like back burner shit.
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Kellen is now married to NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, and
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as we're branded herself as an interior designer under the
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name Sarah Kensington. Her apartment looks like shit. I mean,
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an interior decorator. That's her new gig. Imagine hiring her
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for a gig to come and decorate your apartment and
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then finding out.
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Speaker 2: Who she is.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely disturbing to think you have some children or whatever,
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and this disgusting monster who is recruiting and grooming girls,
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according to the survivors and court documents, is in your home,
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telling you how you should display your pillows on your couch.
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Oh yeah, sign me up. When approached by reporter outside
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her home in New York's Lower East Side last December,
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Kellen said, I'm no monster. I'm a victim of Jeffrey Epstein.
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I was raped and abused weekly. Well, why didn't you
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go to the police after his first arrest? Why did
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you continue to visit him? Why did you continue to
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go to his house? It's absurd that anyone would believe
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this nonsense from her. Marsenko's personal story is disturbing, and
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Epstein wants bragged she was his sex slave who he
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had bought from her family in former Yugoslavia when she
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was fifteen. Again, that situation, Nadia Marsenkovs Marsinko situation, very
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very disturbing, very very disheartening, and very sad. So of
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all of these co conspirators, all of these core four,
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she's the only one that I have even a fingertips
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worth of empathy for. She reinvented herself as a pilot
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who ran a company called Aveloop, selling discount flying lessons
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under the name Global Girl. Groff was Epstein's personal assistant
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in New York, and Ransom has claimed that she spoke
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directly to her, including once emailing that Epstein requested that
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she lose weight to maintain her slim figure. And Groff's
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another one who tries to act like she had no
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involvement of this. She didn't know what was going on.
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You were with Epstein from the jump, Lady. Nobody wants
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to hear it, Okay, if you're going to open your mouth,
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all we want to hear is about the crimes that
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were committed. Ross moved to Florida in two thousand and
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two and worked at Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach and
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flew frequently on his private jet, including with Bill Clinton.
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Now aged in her thirties, She broke down in tears
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and declined comment when approached for comment outside a Catholic
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church close to her home in Miami in twenty and nineteen. Whah,
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I don't care. I'm not sad for you. I have
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no empathy for you, just like you had no empathy
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for these children. Another person who could give evidence against
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Maxwell is Hailey Robson, who features heavily in the reports
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from the two thousand and six investigation into Epstein, which
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say she recruited girls for him. Robson appeared in the
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Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich, in which she said
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she was manipulated. She said, I was just a sixteen
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year old girl doing what this man had asked me
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to do. As a teenager, you don't really stop to
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think about the bigger picture. You're not mature enough. And
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that's Haley was a kid, right, she was sixteen. Another
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one where there has to be special consideration, in my opinion,
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given dealimail dot com has approached lawyers and spokespeople for Kellen, Kellen, Marsinko,
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and Groff. Tracy Schmaller, the spokes woman for Kellen, who
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worked for Washington based crisis management company Kivett, has previously
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cast her as a victim. She said that Kellen joined
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Epstein's circle aged twenty two after divorcing a man she
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married at seventeen and was cast out of Jehovah's witness
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community in which she had been born and raised. Wow,
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so what who cares? Who cares?
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Speaker 2: All?
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Speaker 1: Right? People have been dealt horrible cards forever, way worse
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than that, and they don't end up with Jeffrey Epstein's
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They don't end up hurting children, she said. Sarah continues
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to struggle with the trauma of her experiences and has
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chosen not to speak publicly at this time.
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Speaker 2: Smart move.
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Speaker 1: Erica Dubno, a lawyer for Marchenko, said she was severely
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traumatized by her abuse and was still coming to terms
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with it. Michael Backner, a lawyer for Groff, has said
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that she made appointments for Epstein, but at no time
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did she engage in any misconduct. Well, if you made
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those appointments for children to come and get abused, you
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took part, you ate it and embedded. You were a
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part of a criminal conspiracy. Thanks for coming to my
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ted talk. Maxwell fifty nine denies trafficking a minor and
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conspiracy sex trafficking, among other offenses.
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Speaker 2: Well, folks, it.
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Speaker 1: Is heating up in the world of the Geelan Maxwell trial,
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isn't it Now? We got co conspirators who are about
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to come out and speak against her at trial. That,
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my friends, is going to be must see TV. If
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you'd like to contact me, you can do that at
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Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo Bby c
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ap you Cci at proton mail dot com. You can
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also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u Cci.
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All of the links that go with this episode can
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be found in the description box The Telegraph, and the author,
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Josie Enzer, was kind enough to give us access to
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the original article behind the paywall. So Josie, thank you
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very much for giving us that access. I appreciate it,
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and I am sure that the listeners do as well.
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Now let's jump into the article and see what we
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have to see about Sarah Kellen Vickers and.
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Speaker 2: The Core four.
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Speaker 1: Scanning through leaked flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein's private jet
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between two thousand and one and two thousand and six,
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an unfamiliar name crops up time and time again, three
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hundred and fifty times to be precise. Only Epstein himself
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and longtime associate Glaine Maxwell appere to have flown more
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often than Sarah Kellen on the plane dubbed the Lolita Express.
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And this is why Sarah Kellen Vickers is such a
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huge component of this.
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Speaker 2: This is why she's a key to a Rico case
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as well.
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Speaker 1: In my opinion, she was on this plane more than
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anybody else. She saw what was going on. She knows
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what was going on. And in fact, I bet you
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she has some names. I bet you she knows a
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lot of the unnamed girls that we talk about from
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places like Eastern Europe who came into Jeffrey Epstein in
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Gilaine Maxwell's orbit and then were jettisoned and discarded and
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nobody knew anything else about them.
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Speaker 2: Ever, well, I'd like to know what Sarah kell.
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Speaker 1: And Vickers knows about them, and furthermore, I'd like to
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know what she knows about everything. Miss Kellen, described by
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Epstein survivors as miss Maxwell's lieutenant, is accused by them
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of procuring women and underage girls for the late financier
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pedophile And that's definitely a fact. Remember how I explained
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all of this when it was first starting. Now you
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have Gilaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein in leadership roles. If
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we're talking talking about it like it's structured like the mafia, right,
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So you have the godfather and the underboss or the
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shadow boss and the acting boss, whichever way you want
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to go about it. And below that you have capital regimes,
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and what that means is they're captains of their own crew.
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They report directly to the underboss and the underboss obviously
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reports directly to the boss, and all of these women
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were acting in a capacity that you would find capital
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regimes in the mafia acting in. And that's just a
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fact that is without doubt. When you listen to the
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reports of not only the survivors, but the lawyers for
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the survivors, and you look at all the circumstantial evidence
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that we have compiled in over five hundred episodes, it's
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impossible to see them in any other light. Little has
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been heard of or from the forty year old and
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three other alleged female co conspirators since they were given
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immunity from prosecution under a highly unusual sweetheart deal struck
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between Epstein and the US Attorney for South Florida in
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a two thousand and eight criminal case. And now we
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know that it was a costa who struck that deal
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with them, but we also know it it's a lot
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deeper than that. Right, Acosta was pressured from on high.
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Acosta has been on the record saying that he was
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told hands off of Epstein because Epstein belonged to intelligence.
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So there are a lot of unanswered questions here. Right
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Acosta is certainly not a good guy in this story.
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He's like everybody else, pretty much a gray character. The
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arrest last week of miss Maxwell at the behest of
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the Attorney's Office in New York, which has said it
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is not bound by the Florida agreement, has now raised
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the prospect that the investigators may turn next to the
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quartet aka the Core four, And there's no doubt they
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are a huge part of this criminal conspiracy and if
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the Feds use all the tools available to them within
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their tool they will be bashing these women over the
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head with rico charges very soon. Because remember, folks, it
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only takes two people involved in a crime together for
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it to be a criminal conspiracy. And once it's a
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criminal conspiracy, well that opens up my favorite book of crimes,
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and that is Rico.
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Speaker 2: Can we have some Rico charges? Please?
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Speaker 1: The Telegraph understands that authorities are looking into the alleged
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role played by miss Kellen, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groth and
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Nadia marson Kova in Epstein's sex trafficking ring and eyeing
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possible charges. I can confirm that myself, like I said, independently,
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a source has reached out to me, a pretty credible source,
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and they said that these women most certainly are under investigation.
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They didn't go any further than that. They didn't say
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when to expect charges, if to expect charges, anything like that.
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But I can confirm independently that these women most certainly
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under investigation. The women I've been accused of being his recruiters, groomers,
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sexual partners and friends, an organized network of underlings who
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reportedly received huge salaries and perks in return. And again, folks,
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I hate to keep beating this dead horse, but how
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is it that R. Kelly and his people got slapped
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with RICO charges and we still have not seen them
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in this case? I just don't understand it now. Don't
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get me wrong, they could still be coming right. But
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once we see RICO charges slapped on these people, we
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know for a fact the government means business. And these
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the core four, these four women. I don't think I've
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ever seen a group of people who deserve charges more
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than these women at this point. What they helped Jeffrey
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Epstein do, what they helped Gilain Maxwell do, and the
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pain and suffering that they have caused, you really can't.
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You can't quantify it with words. These people are truly evil.
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They accused miss Kellen of running a rolodex of women
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and girls that she would arrange to visit Epstein wherever
27:13
he was. And we know that Kellen was the key
27:16
right She was right under Gilane Maxwell, the top lieutenant,
27:20
the top capito regime, and she was in charge of
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all sorts of scumbaggery. How many of the survivors do
27:27
we need to hear from? All of them have come
27:32
out and said they've had very disgusting experiences with Gelaan
27:35
Maxwell and the Corps four. So with Gelan Maxwell the
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head of the snake in custody, I don't see it
27:44
being much longer before all of these other serpents meet
27:48
the same fate. When Jeffrey wanted me, you know, Sarah
27:55
Kellen or Gilain would call me into his bedroom and
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I had no choice to go, said Sarah Ransom, who
28:00
was two, who was a twenty two year old student
28:03
when she claims she was abused in trafficked by Epstein
28:05
and his associates. Just think about that, being stuck in
28:11
this trafficking ring with this gross ass son of a bitch,
28:13
Jeffrey Epstein and all of these gross disgusting women that
28:17
are working for him and you're stuck in the orbit here.
28:22
You're part of a trafficking ring, and Jeffrey Epstein is
28:26
in control of everything that you do. I can't even
28:32
imagine being caught up in this man's spider web. Miss
28:36
Ransom alleges the pair would also give her tips on
28:39
how to give Epstein erotic massages, including how to rub
28:42
his feet and best satisfy him sexually. Sarah Kellen knew
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for every girl that she organized to go on that
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island Little Saint James in the US Virgin Islands, or
28:52
to be picked up by a car to go to
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New York to the New York mansion. She knew that
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these girls were there to be abused repetialy, point blank period.
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Sarah Ransom unleashed, letting you know that this happened, that
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Kellen was a part of it. What more do the
29:13
authorities need? There is plenty here, folks, circumstantially, and never
29:19
mind eyewitness accounts. So the only thing that could be happening,
29:24
in my opinion, is they're really tightening up the charges
29:28
that they're going to drop on these ladies. They want
29:30
to make sure everything is ironclad, and they want to
29:33
make sure that the charges are so severe that these
29:35
women have no choice but to flip on each other.
29:38
That is the only thing I can be that that
29:40
can be holding it back in my opinion right now,
29:42
why they haven't been arrested yet, But I have to
29:45
tell you, I think it's imminent. I think that these
29:47
women will be arrested very very soon. According to court papers,
29:55
Miss Kellen and British Heiress Miss Maxwell told the girls
29:58
not to speak to authorities about their interactions with Epstein.
30:01
This is another thing that Epstein and the Corps four did.
30:04
They intimidated witnesses, they paid witnesses off, and they were
30:09
involved in all sorts of evidence tampering. They might not
30:13
sound like serious charges compared to the other ones, right,
30:16
but again, remember the more charges that are slapped on
30:19
these people, the better, because that means the chances are
30:22
something severe is going to stick. And that's what you
30:26
see in criminal enterprise cases all the time. This is
30:28
how they destroy criminal enterprises, folks. We're seeing it right now,
30:31
witnessing it live in front of us. The question is
30:37
how far is the federal government really going to go.
30:43
Miss Maxwell has denied all charges against her. Miss Kellen,
30:46
who was twenty two and had just been cast out
30:49
of Jehovah's witness following a divorce when she met Epstein.
30:52
Has claimed to have been manipulated sexually and psychologically by
30:56
the billionaire for years. Sorry, Sarah Kellen Vickers, not using
31:00
that excuse. Not you, not gieland Maxwell, none of you.
31:04
The only one of the core four who has a
31:07
legitimate leg to stand on about that kind of excuse
31:10
is Nadia Marsonkova, who was sold allegedly to Jeffrey Epstein
31:14
when she was fourteen years old. Now, I am certainly
31:17
not a psychologist, and I will certainly not get into
31:19
all of the psychology of a situation like that. But
31:22
one thing I know is the Stockholm syndrome is certainly
31:25
a real thing. And as the Corps fourgo, the only
31:30
one of these people who should be shown any mercy
31:32
if they cooperate, if they come forward, if they're willing
31:35
to talk, is nai A Marsonkova. Now that does not
31:38
mean she should not get any penalty. I believe that
31:40
all of them deserve time in jail, But the only
31:43
one that I believe deserves any leniency at all in
31:46
any sort of realm is nai A Marsonkova. The rest
31:50
of these women were not victims. The rest of these
31:53
women were not brought into this against their will. They
31:58
knew what they were doing. And Jeffrey Epstein's been dead
32:01
for about a year now. Why haven't any of these
32:04
women come forward? If it was because they were scared
32:06
of Jeffrey Epstein, so that dog doesn't hunt either, okay.
32:14
In a previous statement to CBS News, lawyers for miss
32:17
Kellen claimed that she scheduled appointments for mister Epstein and
32:20
miss Maxwell at their direction. Yeah, well, guess what. That's
32:24
not a good excuse either. Oh well, I was told
32:27
to murder this whole village. I was under orders.
32:30
Speaker 2: I don't care. You're still a war criminal, asshole.
32:34
Speaker 1: Miss Kellen is aware of the pain and damage Epstein
32:36
caused and deeply regrets that she had any part in it.
32:40
Speaker 2: They said, if she really cared, and she truly.
32:44
Speaker 1: Wanted to come forward and make amends, that is what
32:47
she would do, not give canned statements through her lawyer.
32:52
What does that even mean? Oh, she's sorry for any
32:55
pain caused. What do you mean you were part of
32:57
the pain? Sorry would be coming forward and take making
33:00
responsibility for your part as a lieutenant in Jeffrey Epstein's
33:04
criminal enterprise.
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Speaker 2: How about that.
33:08
Speaker 1: She did not respond to The Telegraph's request for comment.
33:12
Miss Marsonkova, another assistant, says she was herself a sex
33:16
slave who was brought by Epstein to the US from
33:19
Slovakia when she was fifteen. Before she is alleged to
33:22
have started helping procure other girls. And this is what
33:26
I was just touched on a moment ago. Nadio Marsenkova
33:29
is the only one, in my opinion, that deserves any
33:32
sort of look at leniency because of the situation, because
33:36
of the circumstances how she was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's orbit.
33:40
Remember she was a child as well, so we have
33:43
to keep that in mind. And remember we're not looking
33:46
for revenge here, folks. We're looking for justice, Okay, We're
33:49
not them. We want justice, We want trials and we
33:53
want prosecutions.
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Speaker 2: That's what we want.
33:57
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to, you know, destroyed people's lives
34:02
who don't need their lives, who weren't involved in this
34:04
or anything like that. But the fact remains, anybody who
34:07
was involved in this, and these girls, these women, they
34:10
all need to face the music. But Marsenkova is one
34:16
person where I do have a bit of empathy for her,
34:19
and I think that if she comes forward and she
34:22
acts as a witness, she should get a substantially less
34:26
amount of time than these other women. Now, of course,
34:29
she should still do time, and when I say time,
34:31
I think at least ten years. But again, I don't
34:34
think I'm qualified to make that determination, right. I'm not
34:38
a psychologist by any means. I don't know how much
34:40
of an impact it truly has. I'm just talking about
34:43
from where I'm sitting, how it looks to me. The
34:50
women have faced numerous civil lawsuits, but never criminal ones.
34:54
Anti trafficking organizations say determining criminal liability is complicated if
34:59
a person has has been exploited for sex then used
35:02
to recruit others. So I will have to defer to
35:05
the trafficking organizations because again I am not I'm not
35:08
equipped to deal with the psychology of all of this.
35:11
I've said that a lot here on the podcast. I
35:13
only talk about what I'm qualified to talk about. Folks,
35:17
Miss Marsonkva and Miss Ross have exercised their right to
35:20
remain silent when questioned on the allegations. Miss Groff denied
35:24
having anything to do with Epstein's sexual misconduct through a
35:28
lawyer in twenty and nineteen, and Leslie Groff and Epstein
35:33
were super close when Leslie Roff was having a kid.
35:36
Jeffrey Epstein has had all kinds of stuff to say
35:38
about it. You know, how he couldn't lose her, how
35:40
she acted as his other brain. Yeah, bought her of Mercedes.
35:44
Speaker 2: Gives her.
35:44
Speaker 1: You know, these girls were all making over two hundred
35:46
grand a year, where most of the you know, the
35:49
assistance on Wall Street are making like seventy k. So
35:53
he was paying them an exorbitant amount of money. Him
35:56
and Leslie Groff were super close, I mean super close
36:00
as far as Jeffrey Epstein's meetings and what he was
36:04
up to. Groff was involved in all of that. After
36:08
two thousand and eight, miss Kellen appeared to drop off
36:11
the radar, deleting or setting to private social media accounts
36:15
and using the name Sarah Kensington to set up an
36:17
interior design company SLK Designs.
36:21
Speaker 2: Again.
36:21
Speaker 1: Must be nice, huh. She could just change her name
36:24
and go on with her life like nothing happened. Meanwhile,
36:27
these survivors are left with this huge burden of what
36:31
Sarah Kellen Vickers was involved with, what Sarah Kellen Vickers
36:34
done to them. Well, it might have taken a long time,
36:41
but justice most certainly is on its way. In twenty ten,
36:46
she was interviewed as part of civil proceedings along with
36:48
Epstein's other assistants, but invoked her right under the Fifth
36:52
Amendment not to answer questions put to her under oath.
36:56
Probably a good idea right, because we know how they
37:00
FBI rolls. We know about perjury. We understand that they
37:03
love that charge and they will dog walk you right
37:06
into that. So she was smart to plead the fifth,
37:10
no doubt about that. And I am sure mister Dershowitz
37:13
had something to do with her pleading the fifth. We
37:15
know that dirty dirsh was advising all of these people,
37:17
come on. He might not say he is, but he was.
37:23
She married Brian Vickers, a NASCAR driver, three years later,
37:27
and now appears to spend her time between the couple's
37:29
homes in New York, Miami, and North Carolina. Must be nice, hah,
37:34
three homes must be real nice to run around after
37:37
your crime spree and live the life of Riley disgusting.
37:42
It's such a black eye to the disgusting justice system
37:45
here in America. It makes me sick, honestly, man.
37:47
Speaker 2: It really does.
37:48
Speaker 1: That this lady has been able to run around for
37:51
all of these years, after everybody knew in two thousand
37:53
and eight what she was about, what she was involved in,
37:56
what she was doing, and yet she was able to
38:00
get away with it for so long. Well, revenge is sweet, baby,
38:07
and when this lady finally gets arrested, it will be
38:11
the justice that these survivors have craved for years. The
38:21
question now is whether miss Maxwell fifty eight, who is
38:24
facing thirty five years in prison, have found guilty of
38:27
charges of recruiting women and underage girls for Epstein to
38:31
sexually abuse that she denies. Will work with prosecutors to
38:35
build a case against the alleged co conspirators. Honestly, I
38:39
really don't even think that they need Maxwell's testimony for
38:42
these co conspirators. I mean, it'll be nice, right, the
38:45
prosecutor always wants as much testimony as possible against potential criminals.
38:51
Speaker 2: But I think that if they're.
38:52
Speaker 1: Going to be juicing Gilaine Maxwell, it's going to have
38:57
to be up the chain very rare. Do people rat
39:00
down in an organization, it happens, There's no doubt, and
39:03
it could be part of the profer But mainly what
39:06
they want are bigger fish, and there are some bigger
39:09
fish in this story. There is no doubt about it.
39:12
The question is, once again, how far are the Feds
39:15
willing to go? She will name names. She's a drowning rat.
39:23
Christina Oxenberg, a distant cousin of Prince Andrew aka the
39:27
Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, who knew Miss Maxwell
39:30
in the nineties, told the Telegraph and ablers like Sarah
39:33
Kellen should be given up by Maxwell. Well, look, Maxwell's
39:37
definitely singing. I've said this from the jump. She ain't
39:39
built for this life. She ain't built for this life.
39:42
She has no idea about prison. She has no idea
39:46
about being turned into a criminal informant. She has no
39:49
idea about a three to zero two statement. She has
39:52
no idea about any of this. And furthermore, after she
39:56
is convicted and she's in prison, her life is going
39:59
to be so miserable as a chomo, someone.
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Speaker 2: Who molests children.
40:03
Speaker 1: Forget it. Miss Oxenberg, who was writing a memoir entitled secrets, claims,
40:12
the daughter of British publishing magnet Robert Maxwell, confided to
40:16
her in nineteen ninety seven that she brought in other
40:19
women to help satisfy Epstein's needs. I don't whatever, she said.
40:25
Miss Maxwell told her she had wiretapped the jets for leverage,
40:28
and speculated that any resulting audio and video recordings could
40:32
potentially incriminate co conspirators and high profile figures who traveled
40:36
with Epstein. We know that's a fact. We know that
40:39
everything was wired up. We know that there are a
40:42
bunch of videos. The question is who's in possession of them.
40:47
My guess is the FBI, and it's probably a treasure trove. Again,
40:54
how far are they willing to go? Gloria already puke
41:00
garbage Stink, who was representing a number of Epstein's survivors,
41:04
said she was not sure if miss Maxwell was seeking
41:06
to make a deal or whether the SDNY would accept.
41:10
It has to be a two way street, she told
41:12
this paper. The FBI and prosecutors could also look at
41:15
what dealings Epstein and miss Maxwell had with Miss Kellen
41:18
and others following his release from prison in two thousand
41:22
and nine. Absolutely, that's part of the scope. The whole
41:25
entire relationship is under investigation as far as I know.
41:29
According to the source I spoke with, it is a
41:31
very wide ranging scope. Transactions made by Epstein were laid
41:38
bare this week as part of investigation by New York
41:40
state financial regulators into oversight at Deutsche Bank. According to
41:45
the regulators, Epstein, who died in an apparent suicide in
41:48
a Manhattan jail cell last year while awaiting trial, sent
41:52
two point six five million dollars in one hundred and
41:55
twenty wire transfers through on an account set up in
41:57
twenty fourteen. They found that some of the payments from
42:01
the account and others were made to the four co
42:03
conspirators named in the two thousand and eight case money laundering,
42:09
wire fraud, witness tampering, paying off coke conspirators. Hello Rico
42:17
mss Kellen is also reported to have visited Epstein several
42:20
times in prison while he was serving an eighteen month
42:24
sentence for sex crimes involving a minor, and was pictured
42:27
with him in twenty twelve after his release. While Miss
42:31
Ransom welcomed the arrest of Maxwell, she said further charges
42:35
needed to be brought for her to feel that justice
42:37
had been served. I have faith that maybe I'll get
42:40
another day in court where I can face the co conspirators,
42:44
the people that helped Jeffrey rate me every day. That's
42:48
powerful stuff from Sarah Ransom. Folks and Sarah, that is
42:53
exactly what we're pushing for. For you to have your
42:58
day in court, to stare a c at those who
43:01
abused you and watch them catch the sentencing of a
43:06
lifetime because that is what's coming. These women are no
43:11
longer in the shadows. The general public now know who
43:18
they are, and the cry for justice is ringing from
43:25
every single continent around the world. The question now is
43:32
when will the federal government of the United States provide
43:37
us with that justice. If you'd like to contact me,
43:42
you can do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com.
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