Latest / Reality with The King / Arrivederci, Dorit! RHOBH Recap with Alexis Bellino
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey, it's Carlos King, creator, host, and executive producer of
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- 1:19Speaker 1: Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives
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- 1:36Speaker 1: Rain Drops on today's episode Reality with the King. I mean,
- 1:39Speaker 1: look this episode, Billy Hills, I mean, alexis what I mean,
- 1:45Speaker 1: what how do we start this recap?
- 1:49Speaker 3: I'm gonna have like it's so good. You just got
- 1:51Speaker 3: to go from the beginning, Carlos, because this is just
- 1:53Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I was like, I was biting
- 1:56Speaker 3: the bit to get to you to be I was like, wait,
- 1:58Speaker 3: the podcast needs to be now.
- 2:00Speaker 1: I wanted to text you last night, like, sister, are
- 2:04Speaker 1: you watching this? Because I can't get enough of it.
- 2:07Speaker 1: I can't rewinding the moments inter Country it was it
- 2:13Speaker 1: was well several times, No, it was beyond goa. So
- 2:18Speaker 1: rain Drops, you are in for a tree. Belly Hills
- 2:21Speaker 1: is mother fucking back. Now. Look, it took us fifteen
- 2:26Speaker 1: episodes to get here, but I'm.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Not fair at five episodes ago, so ten.
- 2:33Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, right, so to be to be fair square,
- 2:37Speaker 1: we'll do that. No this and it's funny because last
- 2:41Speaker 1: week you and I were talking about, like what makes
- 2:43Speaker 1: Bisley Hill so great is the fact that they know
- 2:47Speaker 1: how to give great arguments in a way that is special,
- 2:51Speaker 1: particularly to that franchise is not Atlanta, it's not OC.
- 2:55Speaker 1: There's a very interesting way of their drama that makes
- 3:01Speaker 1: Beverley Hills great and this episode solidified that. So let's
- 3:07Speaker 1: get right into it. It's their final night in Italy,
- 3:12Speaker 1: and Honey, Kyle Legend Richards is like, it's our final
- 3:18Speaker 1: night and I'm going to make sure we give the
- 3:22Speaker 1: audience a show. I mean, Alexis I am online when
- 3:25Speaker 1: I say like cole position in this episode where they
- 3:30Speaker 1: continued her and to Read's debate, and the way Kyle
- 3:36Speaker 1: made sure to involve everybody in the conversation to me
- 3:41Speaker 1: with chef's kids, Well.
- 3:43Speaker 3: I think it was so and she did it in
- 3:45Speaker 3: such a way that's not aggressive like OC can be
- 3:48Speaker 3: another franchises are kind of aggressive, and I feel like
- 3:51Speaker 3: Beverly Hills does it in a more subtle, subdued yet
- 3:54Speaker 3: still point like point. It's poignant, you know, yeah, she
- 3:58Speaker 3: I think that she got to the point that episode
- 4:00Speaker 3: finally where you know, if you have a basket, you're
- 4:02Speaker 3: throwing balls in the basket and then the balls start overflowing.
- 4:05Speaker 3: I think I think Kyle took so much all season
- 4:08Speaker 3: from being the one that's called the bad guy, knowing
- 4:10Speaker 3: that everyone else feels the same in the group, that
- 4:12Speaker 3: she's finally just like my my basket overfloweth and I'm
- 4:16Speaker 3: just ticked. I'm just done and I'm gonna say my piece.
- 4:18Speaker 3: And I think she I think she meant it to
- 4:20Speaker 3: some extent when she's like, I'm done, I don't need
- 4:22Speaker 3: to be friends with you. This is this is over.
- 4:25Speaker 3: It's I mean, that's that's how you know your basket
- 4:28Speaker 3: basket is full for sure.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Listen. It was so interesting because you know,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Kyle is saying, like, we're all concerned about the money
- 4:38Speaker 1: that you're spending. One of the things that they talk
- 4:42Speaker 1: about is the fact that Derey got an advancement from
- 4:46Speaker 1: her book deal, right and as listen, we're not going
- 4:50Speaker 1: to sit up at like the reason not getting paid
- 4:52Speaker 1: from the show. So she gets paid being a housewife.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Now to spend your advance on a Kelly bag, listen
- 5:03Speaker 1: to each its own, is it irresponsible? Knowing that we
- 5:08Speaker 1: learned right through Bow's bo saying, Hey, the house is
- 5:13Speaker 1: in derised name, the cars are in Dere's name. So
- 5:17Speaker 1: if Bose knows that at the time you bought a
- 5:20Speaker 1: Kelly Bag. Clearly you know that, so it is kind
- 5:25Speaker 1: of irresponsible. And if I'm a friend, I would be
- 5:29Speaker 1: concerned knowing that my girl is going through a divorce.
- 5:32Speaker 1: The husband she's divorcing is not a man of means anymore.
- 5:40Speaker 1: You've got an advance and instead of putting that money
- 5:45Speaker 1: aside to pay your bills or even if you think
- 5:49Speaker 1: Pik should pay for it, fine, but to not have
- 5:53Speaker 1: a nest egg as you're going through divorce. And that's
- 5:56Speaker 1: why I'm coming to talk to you, because you went
- 5:58Speaker 1: through to divorces spending your advanced money on a Kelly
- 6:03Speaker 1: bag is indeed irresponsible. And I too, like both and
- 6:07Speaker 1: Kyle and Erica would be concerned.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Well, I think, isn't it? Isn't it that Dorie? I agree?
- 6:14Speaker 3: And I think, isn't it that do has? Is is
- 6:17Speaker 3: there some like some of her payments haven't been paid?
- 6:20Speaker 3: There's like didn't we hear that in one of the
- 6:22Speaker 3: episodes that that yeah, her house was her house was
- 6:26Speaker 3: behind on mortgages or something.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we learned that in real time, meaning meaning
- 6:32Speaker 1: we learned that a few weeks ago. Yeah, I don't
- 6:34Speaker 1: know what the what the report was at the time
- 6:37Speaker 1: of filming, but that's why I listen. I need my
- 6:39Speaker 1: rain Drops to always listen to what people are saying.
- 6:44Speaker 1: We learned a few weeks ago that Derey mortgage was
- 6:48Speaker 1: not paid for months, right, bo said in this episode,
- 6:52Speaker 1: so in real time, not in the interviews where rained jobs.
- 6:56Speaker 1: They film interviews, honestly, they always not always, They sometimes
- 7:01Speaker 1: film interviews while the show's airing, So in real time.
- 7:06Speaker 1: In the scene, Bose is saying to Kyle over the FaceTime, Yeah,
- 7:10Speaker 1: like the house is in her name, the cars is
- 7:13Speaker 1: in her name, and so yes, so the thing is
- 7:18Speaker 1: this her house? Her six point five million dollars in
- 7:23Speaker 1: sen A mansion is in pre foreclosure.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, and that's what I was.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Thinking and catch this. Reports suggest that two lenders filed
- 7:35Speaker 1: default notices in January of this year with over are
- 7:40Speaker 1: you ready for this, Alexis and rain Drops. They owe
- 7:45Speaker 1: over eight hundred and forty two thousand dollars, Oh my gosh,
- 7:49Speaker 1: and they have not made a payment since allegedly allegedly,
- 7:53Speaker 1: allegedly they have not made a payment since September of
- 7:58Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty five.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Wow, Well, eventually are they going to come start? They're
- 8:03Speaker 3: going to start taking her paychecks and stuch ll right,
- 8:06Speaker 3: I mean that's what's gonna eventually happen. I mean are
- 8:09Speaker 3: they going to I mean they claim bankruptcy. I don't
- 8:11Speaker 3: even know. I don't know how that works. But it's like, yeah,
- 8:13Speaker 3: so I can see where the women are concerned about
- 8:15Speaker 3: buying a twenty five thousand dollars handbag. I would I
- 8:18Speaker 3: would be putting that in my pocket for sure. Yeah.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Wow, And and listen, this is this is how I feel,
- 8:26Speaker 1: and I really want to get your thoughts on this,
- 8:29Speaker 1: alexis the fact that Dury was a real housewife, right
- 8:35Speaker 1: A A a homemaker, PK businessman, had all these deals.
- 8:44Speaker 1: The signs were there When your rich husband is telling
- 8:50Speaker 1: you his wife put the house in the cars solely
- 8:55Speaker 1: in your name. Oh, I think that's a red flag. Ladies,
- 8:58Speaker 1: that's a real flat Oh.
- 9:00Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. You're right though, because when
- 9:02Speaker 3: you're a joint you buy something, it's usually in both
- 9:04Speaker 3: your names.
- 9:05Speaker 1: When you're married too, well, I know, but.
- 9:08Speaker 3: It's like my house already had his stuff, he already had.
- 9:10Speaker 3: We didn't we're now putting in each other's, you know.
- 9:12Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like, if we buy something now,
- 9:14Speaker 3: it's going to be an our name. It's not like
- 9:16Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like John, go get a car and
- 9:18Speaker 3: I'm not going to be with him, you know or what.
- 9:20Speaker 3: It's okay, that's really but you know, here's the thing.
- 9:23Speaker 3: I feel like Dorrie doesn't want to hear any feedback
- 9:28Speaker 3: from anyone. I don't think she's taking it from anyone
- 9:30Speaker 3: at this point, honestly. I mean, I know she's like
- 9:32Speaker 3: not as mad at Bo's and thinks that Bo's is
- 9:35Speaker 3: you know, God right now. But it's I just feel
- 9:37Speaker 3: like Dereit is not taking any critical like or just
- 9:42Speaker 3: I mean, they're being kind about it. They're just like
- 9:44Speaker 3: durate will worried about you. And she's so defensive about
- 9:47Speaker 3: everything everything.
- 9:50Speaker 1: And because the thing is this, Kyle is right. She
- 9:55Speaker 1: and right and listen, I'm gonna say rightfully, so I'm
- 9:57Speaker 1: going to have deres back in this case and I'm
- 9:59Speaker 1: going to defend read one more time. So Rain John's
- 10:01Speaker 1: get ready for that. Okay newsplash. Durrett wants everybody to
- 10:09Speaker 1: hate PK the way she does, and the problem is this, Yes,
- 10:15Speaker 1: there may be things about PK that you too experience
- 10:18Speaker 1: that only you know, and you have the right to
- 10:20Speaker 1: feel that way. The problem is Mauricio and Kyle they
- 10:25Speaker 1: also know more than the audience does, and that's why
- 10:28Speaker 1: when they try to have conversations with you, you were
- 10:32Speaker 1: caught in moments where you did not do a good
- 10:35Speaker 1: job defending yourself. And it does make us believe that
- 10:38Speaker 1: you want the world to believe that Kyle broke girl
- 10:41Speaker 1: code and no, bitch, you broke the code of being
- 10:46Speaker 1: somebody that gets money and should save it for the
- 10:50Speaker 1: sake of the future of you and your kids.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Yes, and I didn't even think about the fact that
- 10:58Speaker 3: she wants everyone to hate PK the way she does.
- 11:01Speaker 3: I just feel like she's on a tear down PK mission.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I didn't look at it like she's like, I want
- 11:05Speaker 3: everyone to be on my bandwagon. But the other thing
- 11:07Speaker 3: I noticed this episode is that Dorie really thinks she's
- 11:10Speaker 3: going through the hardest time of all of those women,
- 11:12Speaker 3: which is just an asinine thought, like those women are
- 11:16Speaker 3: all going through a difficult part. So like I just
- 11:18Speaker 3: I was so bummed at the end. We'll get to that,
- 11:21Speaker 3: but I just I think that I hope that when
- 11:24Speaker 3: Dourite watches this back, she has a little bit of
- 11:26Speaker 3: a wake up call, is what I hope, because it
- 11:29Speaker 3: seems clear to me and it should to the audience
- 11:31Speaker 3: like that that she is so low but she has
- 11:34Speaker 3: I don't feel like she has empathy for anyone else
- 11:37Speaker 3: at the table at that dinner, you know, and going throughout.
- 11:40Speaker 3: I mean, we'll get there, but.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Now, let let's go out there before we get to
- 11:44Speaker 1: Erica winning this war, in my opinion, let's get to
- 11:48Speaker 1: the fact that she doesn't have any sort of remorse
- 11:54Speaker 1: for being late. She has no result for these women.
- 11:57Speaker 1: The fact that you're naming every woman at the table
- 11:59Speaker 1: and some random woman named Megan, I'm like, is that
- 12:01Speaker 1: a producer at the table?
- 12:02Speaker 3: Like?
- 12:02Speaker 1: Who the fuck?
- 12:05Speaker 3: But and then skips over and then skips over Amanda.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you step on for Amanda because you have no
- 12:11Speaker 1: regard for Amanda. And that's why I love Kyle saying
- 12:15Speaker 1: she's sitting right there and you forgot to mention Amanda's name.
- 12:19Speaker 1: You don't care about anybody but yourself, And well.
- 12:22Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. No empathy, no empathy for it.
- 12:26Speaker 3: She's not looking and I think at one point, DEI did.
- 12:28Speaker 3: I think she is just so self not absorbed. What's
- 12:32Speaker 3: the wrong words, that's the wrong word. She's just so
- 12:34Speaker 3: into her own problems. Well just I mean just only
- 12:38Speaker 3: for a time. What does it mean when it's only
- 12:40Speaker 3: for this time. I don't think that's her personality in general,
- 12:43Speaker 3: it's just for right now, because she's in such a
- 12:45Speaker 3: low point, she's she doesn't look at anyone else as
- 12:49Speaker 3: like their issues are a problem. Like she looks at Erica.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Erica is probably the one that is going through the
- 12:54Speaker 3: most difficult time for anyone at that table. Come on,
- 12:57Speaker 3: and she's like, She's like you you have Erica. You
- 13:01Speaker 3: And Erica's like, I mean that's what just set Erica
- 13:04Speaker 3: over the top, Like and go, go.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Go Erica.
- 13:07Speaker 3: It was all I can say, because Erica had every
- 13:09Speaker 3: right to blow her gasket at that point.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Yes, no, this is a thing. So when Erica said
- 13:14Speaker 1: to Dery, like, well, first of all, before we get
- 13:17Speaker 1: to that, can we talk about a moment? I laughed
- 13:20Speaker 1: outloud when Kyle threw shade at Derry and rang Johns.
- 13:24Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all caught that, but one of
- 13:27Speaker 1: my favorite moments is when Kyle said.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I forget you can't wait.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Now when she talked about how she's wearing the Kelly
- 13:44Speaker 1: bag again.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well that was at the party.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly, here's he again with the Kelly bag with
- 13:52Speaker 1: the party. I just have to mention that moment because
- 13:55Speaker 1: I thought that was the most hilarioushit ever. Okay, the
- 13:57Speaker 1: infamous Kelly bag. There we go. Okay, It's like, it's like, dreiy,
- 14:01Speaker 1: we get it. You have a Kelly bag.
- 14:03Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna have a spot at the clubhouse
- 14:05Speaker 3: when she retired back.
- 14:08Speaker 1: That's as breasted plants.
- 14:11Speaker 3: Tamer's breastdent plant in a Kelly bag.
- 14:15Speaker 1: So here's Erica like, okay, I see that Kyle, who
- 14:21Speaker 1: is telling everybody like they all feel this way, they
- 14:25Speaker 1: all think you're late, and Rachel those like, look, have
- 14:28Speaker 1: I told her this to her face? Sure? And when
- 14:31Speaker 1: Erica was like, why were you late? Tell us now?
- 14:35Speaker 3: So good?
- 14:36Speaker 1: Tell us now, And you could tell Derry was lying
- 14:39Speaker 1: out of her mouth when She's like, it was by
- 14:42Speaker 1: me and the kids. Oh really, Derey, because when Amanda
- 14:46Speaker 1: told you that her kid actually died, right, gonna stop
- 14:51Speaker 1: you from trying to drag her, so you try to
- 14:55Speaker 1: use the kid thing to get out of the mess.
- 14:58Speaker 1: I saw the flashback the use to show where you
- 15:01Speaker 1: was looking for pasties in your luggage, where you were
- 15:05Speaker 1: warming around in the hotel robe looking for something to wear.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Dinner started ten minutes ago and you're still in your robe.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, So to something live talking about I'm looking
- 15:15Speaker 1: for I was talking to my kids, and I'll talk
- 15:18Speaker 1: to them as long as I want to. And that's
- 15:19Speaker 1: why I love that air Cassette nubbitch. We all have kids.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Are you trying to say your kids are more important
- 15:25Speaker 1: than ours? I'm like, and all of.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Us at the table, and all of us at the table.
- 15:29Speaker 3: That's the thing, is like she's like taking her whatever
- 15:32Speaker 3: is in going on with to read at that moment
- 15:34Speaker 3: and putting that ahead of everyone else's time. And everyone
- 15:37Speaker 3: else's sitting at the table. And look, Carlos, I think
- 15:40Speaker 3: everyone can say that they've been late. I don't think
- 15:42Speaker 3: there's one person that can ever go I've been time.
- 15:45Speaker 3: I'm always punctual. Are there people that are more punctual?
- 15:48Speaker 3: My husband is way more punctual than me, and he's
- 15:50Speaker 3: getting me on more of the punctual bandwagon. I don't
- 15:53Speaker 3: think five minutes is late or three minutes, like if
- 15:55Speaker 3: you're coming in right at that time, but I pushed
- 15:57Speaker 3: the five to ten minute or okay, I'll be honest,
- 16:00Speaker 3: but now I'm getting better at being right on the dot.
- 16:02Speaker 3: But Deree is like hour or twenty minutes or you know,
- 16:07Speaker 3: fifteen And the fact that it's every single time, Like,
- 16:10Speaker 3: I don't think they filmed one scene this season that
- 16:12Speaker 3: she's been there on time.
- 16:14Speaker 1: No, do you not even this season her entire run
- 16:18Speaker 1: on the show? I said, as before, there was a
- 16:21Speaker 1: scene with her and Teddy Mellencamp where Teddy Teddy waited
- 16:25Speaker 1: over an hour for her.
- 16:26Speaker 3: Did they need a flashback to that? They did a
- 16:28Speaker 3: flashback to that or something? I saw that somewhere maybe
- 16:30Speaker 3: I saw it on you.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Saw it somewhere ye. And speaking of Teddy Mellencamp, who
- 16:35Speaker 1: you know is best friends with Kyle Legend, Richard's on
- 16:40Speaker 1: two teas in a pod, Hey Tam or Hey Teddy,
- 16:46Speaker 1: So alexis what she say? Teddy Mellencamp revealed that the
- 16:52Speaker 1: ladies had to wait up until five o'clock in the
- 16:55Speaker 1: morning to film that dinner scene. Because the was so late.
- 17:01Speaker 1: What dinner scene the warm we're watching talking about.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Shut the front door. You're eating dinner at five o'clock
- 17:08Speaker 3: in the morning, and it's because Deary was late.
- 17:14Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
- 17:21Speaker 3: What's amazing to me, Carlos, is that none of these
- 17:23Speaker 3: girls have called it out until this season. If you're
- 17:25Speaker 3: saying it's been happening all this time, I am shocked
- 17:28Speaker 3: because I would not have been able to hold my
- 17:29Speaker 3: tongue if it had been going on that long, because
- 17:31Speaker 3: it's like, we all want to get to bed, we
- 17:33Speaker 3: all need to have fresh eyes and not be puffy
- 17:35Speaker 3: tomorrow from no sleep. It's like I would not hold
- 17:39Speaker 3: it back. I'm so glad that they're finally standing up
- 17:42Speaker 3: to that, but I just can't believe that it's been
- 17:45Speaker 3: going on for this long and Deurite hasn't tried to
- 17:47Speaker 3: get it in check. Set your alarm for thirty minutes
- 17:50Speaker 3: sooner than you should have said it. If you were
- 17:51Speaker 3: going to set your alarm at one to start getting
- 17:52Speaker 3: ready for three, set your alarm at twelve thirty and
- 17:55Speaker 3: get up and start at twelve thirty. I mean, oh
- 17:58Speaker 3: my gosh, it gives me a arrogant Listen.
- 18:01Speaker 1: I've always been told when someone is notoriously late, you're right.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I've been late, You've been late. Everybody's world has been late.
- 18:08Speaker 1: When it's a notorious habit where they're waiting on you
- 18:11Speaker 1: at the airport for ninety minutes, that is a level
- 18:15Speaker 1: of arrogance and narcissistic characteristic traits that you have. She's
- 18:20Speaker 1: a narcissistic, arrogant woman who believes that people should be
- 18:25Speaker 1: waiting on her, and it's been happening for years, and
- 18:28Speaker 1: I think Erica is like, look, I got your back.
- 18:31Speaker 1: We are the forest Fox five right now, it's only
- 18:34Speaker 1: the three of us, Renna's gall and so it's hitting
- 18:36Speaker 1: on the camp right. And even when she when they're
- 18:40Speaker 1: when Erica is like all these motherfuckers. When she said motherfuckers,
- 18:44Speaker 1: I said, Erica, I love you. These motherfuckers are gonna
- 18:48Speaker 1: say it to your faith. They are also upset that
- 18:50Speaker 1: you're late.
- 18:52Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say something positive about Dree.
- 18:58Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
- 18:58Speaker 3: I know you'll get to that point. I okay, So
- 19:01Speaker 3: all I was going to say about that is absolutely,
- 19:04Speaker 3: And what they do say when people are notoriously late
- 19:08Speaker 3: is that they do consider themselves and their time and
- 19:11Speaker 3: anything they're doing more valuable than what everyone else is
- 19:14Speaker 3: having to do and and about. So that's also a
- 19:16Speaker 3: lack of empathy in my mind, and it's it. I mean,
- 19:19Speaker 3: I never thought of Dorit as being a narcissistic having
- 19:21Speaker 3: a narcissistic trait, but I guess if I guess, it
- 19:24Speaker 3: is kind of But I just I And you know,
- 19:27Speaker 3: Dori was on Watch What Happens Live a couple of
- 19:29Speaker 3: weeks ago and that was one of the first things
- 19:32Speaker 3: he called her out about, and she said, Andy Cohen
- 19:35Speaker 3: called her out about and she said, you know, I'm
- 19:38Speaker 3: working on it. I'm going to work on it, so
- 19:40Speaker 3: we'll see. And I mean, maybe this is the final
- 19:42Speaker 3: The women have put up with it for how many
- 19:44Speaker 3: ever many years you said, they she's been doing this
- 19:46Speaker 3: like seven eight seasons and no one said anything. It's
- 19:49Speaker 3: kind of like, too bad on you women. You should
- 19:50Speaker 3: have brought it out.
- 19:51Speaker 1: They've said it. She hasn't stopped.
- 19:52Speaker 3: I think, oh, they have said it. They have called
- 19:55Speaker 3: her out.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yes, they've said like can you like they've all made
- 19:59Speaker 1: it a thing that deris late. So last season, this
- 20:02Speaker 1: is how late this woman is. Deree had a party
- 20:06Speaker 1: at her home, Sudden arrives on time, Dere's upstairs at
- 20:13Speaker 1: her pajamas getting glam She's not even there to greet
- 20:17Speaker 1: the guests to come to her house.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Gosh, what that was last season?
- 20:21Speaker 1: Last season, Carlos, So they're fed up. I think the
- 20:25Speaker 1: difference is they That's why I have to give props
- 20:29Speaker 1: to Teddy Melicam for telling look Noche for telling us
- 20:33Speaker 1: what calls her to say that look, because I was
- 20:36Speaker 1: how much Teddy though?
- 20:37Speaker 3: Right, thanks Teddy. We needed that piece of information.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Because I think I think we needed more context as
- 20:44Speaker 1: to to your point though, alexis, why is it a
- 20:48Speaker 1: bigger deal now? And I had to report on the
- 20:51Speaker 1: fact that it's because they have waited until five o'clock
- 20:54Speaker 1: in the morning to film with this woman. And it's
- 20:56Speaker 1: and it's just a it's an arrogant move. You've been
- 20:59Speaker 1: on See for many seasons. You know that at the
- 21:02Speaker 1: end of the day, thee you guys, let's let's have
- 21:05Speaker 1: a real conversational lexis Jams.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Okay, get real, you ladies.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Look at who's getting special treatment? Where y'all are filming,
- 21:15Speaker 1: which producer allows the ladies to you know, arrive or
- 21:19Speaker 1: you know that there's there's there's nuances to this thing
- 21:24Speaker 1: and television shell to where everybody looks at like, well,
- 21:28Speaker 1: why does she get away with that? When I give right,
- 21:31Speaker 1: I'm lying.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Now, you're right, You're right, they do. They will be
- 21:35Speaker 3: in your in certain people's rooms saying let's go, let's
- 21:37Speaker 3: go go, and then everyone's there and the one or
- 21:40Speaker 3: two don't. They don't have the same rules. You're you're
- 21:43Speaker 3: right about that. And sometimes though on like to just
- 21:48Speaker 3: be in favor of the producers, sometimes it's because one
- 21:51Speaker 3: cast member is having a really tough episode or you know,
- 21:55Speaker 3: the day of filming, and they do give grace where
- 21:57Speaker 3: grace is due for that, and okay, you need a
- 21:59Speaker 3: little bit more time because you break down. You need
- 22:00Speaker 3: to go get freshened up again. But but there are
- 22:03Speaker 3: several times you're speaking of which you're correct, where you're
- 22:05Speaker 3: sitting around at dinner table and there hasn't been that
- 22:08Speaker 3: and and everyone else is being pushed out the door
- 22:10Speaker 3: to get there, and then the other two just get
- 22:13Speaker 3: to come on their own time. But I will say,
- 22:15Speaker 3: for oc that has not been I have not recognized
- 22:19Speaker 3: that as being a problem where we've had one late
- 22:22Speaker 3: like unt continuously late person like I. I mean, there
- 22:25Speaker 3: might be someone's having a really rough time. It has
- 22:27Speaker 3: two times that they're late because they've just had a
- 22:29Speaker 3: really rough week or they just can't get on their feet.
- 22:31Speaker 3: But it's like it's it has not been a derete thing.
- 22:33Speaker 3: But what I what I bothers me the most is
- 22:35Speaker 3: that the women haven't called her out hard enough out
- 22:38Speaker 3: for the seven or eight years to get her to
- 22:40Speaker 3: really have her thinking. They've just kind of let it go.
- 22:42Speaker 3: I'm kind of thinking, you know, shame on do it
- 22:45Speaker 3: to me once, shame on me, do it to me twice,
- 22:46Speaker 3: to shame on you. And it's like I feel like
- 22:49Speaker 3: the women should have done this three seasons ago and
- 22:51Speaker 3: been like, dreet enough is enough, Like I'm not doing
- 22:54Speaker 3: it anymore. If you don't come down on time, then
- 22:56Speaker 3: don't come at all, you know, Yeah, like that's what
- 22:58Speaker 3: I do. And the women haven't been pushed into the
- 23:00Speaker 3: producers either, because you would think that they would be
- 23:03Speaker 3: pushing enough the producers would be like, Okay, we need
- 23:04Speaker 3: to get DERET started earlier.
- 23:08Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, I agree with that. So Deree
- 23:12Speaker 1: is being called out. And one thing that they're talking
- 23:18Speaker 1: about is Derey feels like, you guys aren't there for me.
- 23:22Speaker 1: They're like, no, We've always been there for you, but
- 23:24Speaker 1: we have to call you out. We always show you support.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Dree said, Bows has shown more support than everyone put together.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you have a really bad memory.
- 23:38Speaker 1: And Erica's like, really, Derie and flashed back to Erica
- 23:42Speaker 1: defending Derie up against Lisabanda Pump, Erica defending the red
- 23:47Speaker 1: and taken enough for her when when the unfortunate incident
- 23:51Speaker 1: happened where the robbery occurred, the ladies weren't even scheduled
- 23:55Speaker 1: a film, and those ladies, including Lisa Rena who was
- 23:58Speaker 1: on the show at the time, they all immediately went
- 24:02Speaker 1: over Derey's.
- 24:02Speaker 3: House and that's all just, that's all just during filming
- 24:05Speaker 3: that that Eric has been there for Dreak. You don't
- 24:08Speaker 3: even get to see the things off camera. But so yeah,
- 24:10Speaker 3: and that's what sent Erica through the roof. Erica was like,
- 24:13Speaker 3: oh no, we're not you're not going to say that
- 24:15Speaker 3: with Moses new and she's been here two years and
- 24:17Speaker 3: You're not going to take a throwaway eight years of
- 24:19Speaker 3: what I've been here with you for. Like No, that
- 24:22Speaker 3: just put Erica over the top, and Erica handled it.
- 24:24Speaker 3: I think she handled it beautifully, to be honest. I
- 24:27Speaker 3: think she stood her ground. She didn't go too too
- 24:29Speaker 3: low as low as she probably really wanted to. And
- 24:33Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, she still
- 24:34Speaker 3: does love Darry because she started crying at the end,
- 24:37Speaker 3: you know, so she obviously still she still loves Daury.
- 24:41Speaker 1: No. Erica Jane is those women that you and I
- 24:43Speaker 1: both know. I will go on a limb saying Tamras
- 24:46Speaker 1: like this, I will say Kenya Morris like this, I
- 24:49Speaker 1: would say meany Lease is like this, where you have
- 24:52Speaker 1: a woman who appears to be very strong and confident,
- 24:55Speaker 1: and they are, but they're also sensitive when it comes
- 24:58Speaker 1: to people love. And that's why you see tam Or
- 25:01Speaker 1: cry when it comes to the you know, the moments
- 25:04Speaker 1: with her real friends, saying with Nini, when Ninni and
- 25:06Speaker 1: Cynthia had their moment saying with Kenya, and when Kenya
- 25:09Speaker 1: was going through her moments. Erica Jane really does love
- 25:12Speaker 1: to read, and that's why when the reed broke, the
- 25:15Speaker 1: fourth wall because I don't know if you called this,
- 25:17Speaker 1: and I need to know the raindrops call this, so
- 25:20Speaker 1: rain Drops listen up again. Dreed was breaking the fourth
- 25:25Speaker 1: wall when she told Erica when I said you need
- 25:31Speaker 1: to work and contribute more, I didn't mean you need
- 25:36Speaker 1: to be a cunt that was there saying clock in
- 25:42Speaker 1: on this show. Contribute more on this show, work on
- 25:46Speaker 1: this show, because once again, rain Drops, Alexis, stop me
- 25:49Speaker 1: when I'm wrong. Everybody on this show feels like we
- 25:53Speaker 1: all need to carry our own weight and we all
- 25:56Speaker 1: need to work together to make the show great. I
- 25:58Speaker 1: believe and Erica had an off camera conversation and Dury
- 26:02Speaker 1: told Erica, you got to step it up. You got
- 26:05Speaker 1: to step it up, step it up more. And I
- 26:07Speaker 1: think dreat is mana Erica because urit feels like, are
- 26:11Speaker 1: you trying to make good television at the expense of me?
- 26:15Speaker 3: Light bulb moment for me. I did not take it
- 26:17Speaker 3: that way when she said contribute, I honestly didn't even know.
- 26:20Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I even rewound it and
- 26:21Speaker 3: I said, did I hear her rights? One of the
- 26:23Speaker 3: times I rewound it because I'm like, Okay, contribute more.
- 26:26Speaker 3: I didn't think about she was breaking the fourth floor.
- 26:28Speaker 3: I was thinking contribute more like into the friendship. I
- 26:30Speaker 3: was literally in my mind trying to think, what did
- 26:32Speaker 3: that mean? You are absolutely a million percent right. They
- 26:35Speaker 3: had an off camera conversation and she's like, Dery, it's
- 26:38Speaker 3: like you're being kind of quiet this season. Erica like,
- 26:41Speaker 3: what do you have to saying? And then she's like,
- 26:43Speaker 3: but now you're doing it at my expense? But sorry, Dorry,
- 26:47Speaker 3: you caused that because of your dig at Erica saying
- 26:51Speaker 3: that everyone else has done more than your two closest
- 26:53Speaker 3: friends on there, which is Erica and File. So yeah,
- 26:58Speaker 3: I mean that just was And that's what's so great
- 27:01Speaker 3: about about unscripted TV is that that is such an
- 27:04Speaker 3: authentic moment that you never would have seen coming. You
- 27:07Speaker 3: never would have seen, you never would have seen the
- 27:09Speaker 3: compliment to Bose, and then it's setting Erica off and
- 27:12Speaker 3: making Erica just go berserk, you.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Know, And that's the reason why Erica felt the need
- 27:18Speaker 1: to really so if so rain Drops watched that scene again,
- 27:21Speaker 1: that's why Erica looked at her and said, first of all,
- 27:26Speaker 1: I'm the one that actually brought the word cunt to
- 27:29Speaker 1: this group. You're the dynamic between you are and Kyle
- 27:40Speaker 1: looked like a proud mama, like, bitch, get her for me,
- 27:48Speaker 1: keep going and guess what, Dere, And this is why
- 27:52Speaker 1: I'm going to have the reason back. Dere held her
- 27:55Speaker 1: own though, I will I will give her that. I
- 27:59Speaker 1: will give her that. Read definitely held role. But one
- 28:01Speaker 1: of my favorite moments is when Rachel's said, I only
- 28:04Speaker 1: use that word on special occasions.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Leave it to Rachel to do something under their breast
- 28:14Speaker 3: like that. She does that all the time. It's so fascinating.
- 28:17Speaker 1: No, I loved it. I loved it. I loved it.
- 28:19Speaker 1: I loved it.
- 28:20Speaker 3: The last time, when is the last time you used
- 28:22Speaker 3: that word?
- 28:23Speaker 1: See, I was gonna ask you that. Okay, so this
- 28:26Speaker 1: is this is okay. I had a conversation with somebody
- 28:28Speaker 1: last night who I was watching it with, and the
- 28:31Speaker 1: you know, the C word is like the dirtiest thing
- 28:35Speaker 1: you can say. And I said to him, so, you
- 28:39Speaker 1: know what's so funny. I think in the white community,
- 28:43Speaker 1: the S word is the dirtiest thing you can say
- 28:46Speaker 1: to somebody. It's like deplorable. And I said to him,
- 28:50Speaker 1: in the black community, Alexis, we don't use that word.
- 28:56Speaker 3: We just we we know all my community. What about
- 29:00Speaker 3: the gay community.
- 29:01Speaker 1: The white gay community, yes, the black No, I'm telling
- 29:06Speaker 1: you at my black ray drops, tell me about like
- 29:09Speaker 1: in the comments black people, we don't use the C word.
- 29:13Speaker 3: What's your word? What's what's your word? That is just deplorable?
- 29:16Speaker 3: When you're in a fight with someone.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Then okay, okay for black people, the one word you're
- 29:24Speaker 1: gonna be You're gonna be surprised. But watch a lancea
- 29:28Speaker 1: Housewives and you guys know, I were white. The word
- 29:35Speaker 1: that pisses off black folks. But I'll say more black
- 29:39Speaker 1: women because I've worked with of course on my shows.
- 29:42Speaker 1: It's when you aggressively say fuck you bitch. If you
- 29:55Speaker 1: ever see a black woman telling the black woman fuck
- 29:59Speaker 1: you bitch, Oh, Alexis.
- 30:02Speaker 3: You're good at that. I can tell you've seen a
- 30:04Speaker 3: few people do that.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Yes, watch watch this fight ray Job season I think
- 30:10Speaker 1: it's season twelve between Mimi and Kenya.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Which one does it? Which one says it to the who?
- 30:17Speaker 1: Who says it to who? Mimi tells Kenya fuck you
- 30:23Speaker 1: fuck you? And then Kenya goes, fuck you bitch, and
- 30:28Speaker 1: they don't go fuck you bitch. The fucking bitch and
- 30:32Speaker 1: doctor doctor, heavily American medician.
- 30:35Speaker 3: Yep, she's a good.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Little black woman. Fuck you, so a black woman see
- 30:40Speaker 1: you next Tuesday is fuck you. Now, with that being said,
- 30:46Speaker 1: what's the last time you used a sea word, Alexis?
- 30:49Speaker 3: You know? I was thinking that. I don't even I
- 30:51Speaker 3: can't even remember. If I'm being honest too, I mean,
- 30:54Speaker 3: can you even see it coming out of me?
- 30:56Speaker 1: Hey? Hey you?
- 30:57Speaker 3: I just I can't doesn't even now I can say
- 30:59Speaker 3: the I'll be like, okay, you're being bitchous. Okay, I
- 31:02Speaker 3: mean that that flows out just easy. But I just
- 31:05Speaker 3: I don't even think if I was sitting in that moment,
- 31:07Speaker 3: I could have said it, like if Dorit had said
- 31:09Speaker 3: it to me. I don't even think I could have
- 31:11Speaker 3: made myself day back. Maybe I'm boring.
- 31:15Speaker 1: I don't know, just no the big but that's why
- 31:18Speaker 1: Rachel was no if the thing for people was this,
- 31:21Speaker 1: That's why Rachel's that was so funny when she said
- 31:24Speaker 1: not having a cunt off, like that word is literally
- 31:29Speaker 1: for a special occasions like were you That's the word
- 31:33Speaker 1: you use when you know that there's no other word
- 31:36Speaker 1: in Webster's dictionary. That's the word you bribe how pissed
- 31:40Speaker 1: you are.
- 31:41Speaker 3: At some point, that's the word you used to the
- 31:43Speaker 3: girl that you walk in and your husband's effing. It
- 31:47Speaker 3: might come out of my mouth.
- 31:48Speaker 1: That's okay, yes, yes, yes, yes no.
- 31:53Speaker 3: I was just getting a kick out of that whole.
- 31:55Speaker 3: I mean I did rewind that that table seeing quite
- 31:57Speaker 3: a few moments and it's called the Last Supper. I
- 32:00Speaker 3: was like, okay, that's just oh.
- 32:02Speaker 1: My Goshgia shout out to Alexa Baska and the producers
- 32:06Speaker 1: of the show. It was. It was perfection and to
- 32:10Speaker 1: continue on the fourth wall being broken. That's why when
- 32:15Speaker 1: Erica made that comment like I am giving you my
- 32:20Speaker 1: real life, and she goes, what are you doing? And
- 32:23Speaker 1: Dere's like, I'm giving you my reality like I always do,
- 32:27Speaker 1: they weren't having a fourth wall broken moment. And that's
- 32:33Speaker 1: why the count off was so severe, because Erica got
- 32:39Speaker 1: pissed that Dury went there. Because the thing is this,
- 32:43Speaker 1: no housewife wants to be told by another housewife. They're
- 32:48Speaker 1: not clocking into work, right, it is.
- 32:51Speaker 3: It is one of those things where well, actually, actually,
- 32:53Speaker 3: though Carlos, if I was told that I would self reflect,
- 32:57Speaker 3: I'd say okay, am, I kind of like zoned out
- 32:59Speaker 3: right now because there are many scenes that I do
- 33:01Speaker 3: I will kind of just go into the back and
- 33:03Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I don't want to be a part
- 33:04Speaker 3: of this. This is not my this is not my battle.
- 33:06Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with it. So I think
- 33:08Speaker 3: there are times where I would self reflect and say, Okay,
- 33:11Speaker 3: step it up, Alexis, let's go. But I think with
- 33:13Speaker 3: where it was coming from between these two at that moment,
- 33:17Speaker 3: it was kind of one of those things that was
- 33:19Speaker 3: just and the fact that like Erica probably doesn't want
- 33:22Speaker 3: to hear that she's not clocking in, because Erica does
- 33:24Speaker 3: clock in in my opinion, and Erica does kill it
- 33:27Speaker 3: in her even if she's not killing it, and see,
- 33:29Speaker 3: she kills it so much in her confessionals that it
- 33:31Speaker 3: almost like makes up for it because she's just got
- 33:33Speaker 3: the best zingers, you know, the one liners and such.
- 33:35Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I that's how I feel.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is this, Erica has given up
- 33:48Speaker 1: so much greatness when she was going through the unfortunate
- 33:53Speaker 1: moments with Tom Gurrabi, and her best moments on the
- 33:58Speaker 1: show outside of that has always been like her getting
- 34:02Speaker 1: into a Deri or a Vanda Pump. But and Teddy
- 34:05Speaker 1: Mellencamp once when she said, don't ever call me a
- 34:07Speaker 1: fucking liar, Oregon, do you ever come a funk liar
- 34:09Speaker 1: like Erica is the best? So in Erica's defense, Durie
- 34:15Speaker 1: Haddie's first two seasons or on the show were magnificent. Unfortunately,
- 34:22Speaker 1: Drey fell into the trope of the audience disliking her
- 34:26Speaker 1: because she was so clocked in and she took a
- 34:29Speaker 1: back seat, and Erica never had to take a back seat,
- 34:33Speaker 1: I would say, until the last two seasons, and I
- 34:35Speaker 1: would give her grace for it because the ship she
- 34:38Speaker 1: had to go through with Tom Girardi was so big.
- 34:40Speaker 1: She deserved it. But that's why Erica was like, no,
- 34:45Speaker 1: I'm going through a lot too, And for da say,
- 34:47Speaker 1: Deis said it smug to me, like what are you
- 34:50Speaker 1: going through? And that's why the whole table was like.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Carlos, I literally fell off the count. I literally did.
- 35:01Speaker 3: It was like I was like whoa, Like, I mean,
- 35:04Speaker 3: holy heck oh, And that's what I was saying, like
- 35:08Speaker 3: she's Erica Jane and I'm not. It's like, you know,
- 35:10Speaker 3: she said, let's not do the the pain level thing,
- 35:13Speaker 3: the pain the pain thing, but like, honest to goodness,
- 35:17Speaker 3: when you really look at all of their lives, well,
- 35:20Speaker 3: I'm sorry what Amanda lost a child, So I mean,
- 35:22Speaker 3: that's the that's the deepest of deep roots of everyone
- 35:25Speaker 3: at that table. But but like Erica's, what's the situation
- 35:28Speaker 3: she's going through is so beyond what anyone A lot
- 35:32Speaker 3: of people have been divorced, you know what I mean,
- 35:34Speaker 3: It's like, at least you still have your kids, at
- 35:36Speaker 3: least your husband's not in jail and doesn't know who
- 35:38Speaker 3: you are. I mean, I don't know. I guess there
- 35:40Speaker 3: is no calculator for who really has the highest number
- 35:43Speaker 3: of pain at this table. Because that's why I that's
- 35:45Speaker 3: why I said, it was just so uncalled for for
- 35:47Speaker 3: Duri to say that, and that just showed, what you said,
- 35:49Speaker 3: her narcissistic behavior at that moment and her lack of empathy.
- 35:53Speaker 3: It showed it to the nines.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The thing is this, just say it, Dereat,
- 36:10Speaker 1: and I do believe this, dere in her heart of hearts,
- 36:14Speaker 1: she does feel like this show has two teams, your
- 36:20Speaker 1: team Dereet or your team Kyle. And in her mind.
- 36:25Speaker 1: She believes that Kyle is trying to recruit people on
- 36:30Speaker 1: her side so that they don't agree with the way
- 36:34Speaker 1: dere is behaving because on this show, with this current
- 36:37Speaker 1: cast on on on team Kyle is Erica, Sutton and Amanda,
- 36:48Speaker 1: she has three women. Dei's team, she has Rachel.
- 36:52Speaker 3: What about Erica? Did you say Erica?
- 36:55Speaker 1: How has Erica and Amanda? Okay?
- 36:58Speaker 3: Got it?
- 36:58Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? On Dried's side has Rachel and Zoe I
- 37:04Speaker 1: mean Rachel okay?
- 37:07Speaker 3: And what about bo and bo or both?
- 37:12Speaker 1: My bad? Both? She has Rachel, y'all get it? Bozo?
- 37:16Speaker 1: She has Rachel and Bows.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Well they both have in their names a letter or
- 37:24Speaker 3: two around.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Yes bad. And she does feel like.
- 37:29Speaker 3: And Kathy's just Kathy's just neutral, you.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Think, yes, I mean, listen, listen, Kathy's neutral, although that's
- 37:36Speaker 1: her sister. Let's let's be clear. When Kathy defended not Deria,
- 37:41Speaker 1: Natalie last week was like, well maybe she did. And
- 37:44Speaker 1: Kyle's like, you're my sister. Do you think I'll be lying?
- 37:46Speaker 1: Like Kathy, I don't need this from you, and She's like, well,
- 37:50Speaker 1: let's talk about Josh board Darling. Okay, So Kathy, Kathy
- 37:55Speaker 1: does not have Kyle's side, because that's why when Dey
- 37:59Speaker 1: left the table, Kyle decided, I'm sorry. When dere left
- 38:05Speaker 1: the table, Kathy went after Deree right right, and and
- 38:10Speaker 1: and and that's just that's just what it is.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Well, did let me ask you this, Did Kyle and
- 38:15Speaker 3: Durite have this a little bit last year too? Was
- 38:17Speaker 3: it was it festering a little last year too, or
- 38:19Speaker 3: did it just start this year? They're they're bad there.
- 38:23Speaker 1: It's been happening for it's been happening for two years straight.
- 38:26Speaker 3: So last year it was starting to fester and now
- 38:29Speaker 3: it's just blistering over, bubbling over.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yes, it's and that's the reason why Kyle's like, we're
- 38:35Speaker 1: not like we're not going to be friends, Like at
- 38:38Speaker 1: this point, we're just not going to be friends. And
- 38:40Speaker 1: I respect the fact that she feels that way.
- 38:43Speaker 3: I do too, And I feel like, you know, someone
- 38:45Speaker 3: at the table did say, you guys just need a pause.
- 38:47Speaker 3: I can't remember if his Erica or Rachel, but and
- 38:49Speaker 3: I'm in my mind, I'm like, you really do, Like
- 38:51Speaker 3: it's just gotten so it's gotten so toxic that now
- 38:54Speaker 3: I think they do just need to step away. They're
- 38:56Speaker 3: out they're done filming now, aren't they, Or they have
- 38:58Speaker 3: the reunion maybe to film, but it's like now they
- 39:00Speaker 3: can take a break and you know they won't see
- 39:03Speaker 3: each other, and I don't think they should call each
- 39:04Speaker 3: other over their break. I think they really do need
- 39:07Speaker 3: just to step away from the friendship. And it's really sad,
- 39:10Speaker 3: but it's almost like if Kyle doesn't stop being friends
- 39:13Speaker 3: with PK, that's I think that that's the only thing
- 39:17Speaker 3: that's gonna have Dorrit feel like she's Kyle really cares
- 39:22Speaker 3: about her. I think she wants Kyle to not like
- 39:24Speaker 3: PK at all. Like you said, Dorry wants all the women,
- 39:27Speaker 3: I think the most. The woman that she wants the
- 39:30Speaker 3: most not like PK, is Kyle, and they happen to
- 39:32Speaker 3: have a friendship. You know her ratio and PK.
- 39:35Speaker 1: So m hm, yeah, yeah. And the thing is, I
- 39:40Speaker 1: just think that Kyle knows more about the dynamic between
- 39:45Speaker 1: PK and Derie, and I think Kyle is trying her
- 39:48Speaker 1: best not to expose to read. And that's why when
- 39:53Speaker 1: Derie when they said, Deie said I'm going to end Kyle,
- 39:56Speaker 1: which the flashback, she didn't say I'm going to end
- 40:01Speaker 1: she did say though, if.
- 40:04Speaker 3: I could have blown her world up. Yes, that's that's
- 40:07Speaker 3: what her words were, and I caught that too. Those
- 40:09Speaker 3: are the Are they the same thing? No, it's it's
- 40:12Speaker 3: kind of I mean, blow her world up is not
- 40:14Speaker 3: the same as end her. But yeah, but but you
- 40:18Speaker 3: know Durit did say it and it was negative. So
- 40:21Speaker 3: but you think so you think Kyle's holding back on
- 40:25Speaker 3: disclosing more about p K and Durite's relationship and that
- 40:28Speaker 3: PK is not such a bad guy.
- 40:30Speaker 1: I think, yes, That's why the Mauricio scene blew up
- 40:34Speaker 1: in Derey's face. That's why Kyle has always never said
- 40:39Speaker 1: anything bad.
- 40:39Speaker 3: About That's why I say very per slept with.
- 40:43Speaker 1: And that's why Kyle told like, I don't think you
- 40:46Speaker 1: should talk bad about your your the father and your kids. Like,
- 40:51Speaker 1: I don't think you should go there. But look, what
- 40:53Speaker 1: I will say is this, Colin Derey will never be
- 40:58Speaker 1: friends and and I'll that it will never They'll never
- 41:02Speaker 1: be friends.
- 41:03Speaker 3: They will never be this. No, so this is gone,
- 41:06Speaker 3: this is done done. Yeah, I don't feel that. Well,
- 41:11Speaker 3: you would have said that about Vicki and Tamra a
- 41:13Speaker 3: couple of years ago too, and they're back to being friends.
- 41:16Speaker 1: So the difference.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Okay, okay, please do.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Vicky was removed from the show for a couple of seasons.
- 41:26Speaker 3: Oh so that was the break.
- 41:28Speaker 1: As long as you are on the same show at
- 41:32Speaker 1: the same damn time, it's going to be extremely difficult
- 41:37Speaker 1: to get past it. That's why these shows don't work anymore,
- 41:41Speaker 1: because these when you have two women for I don't
- 41:47Speaker 1: want to see another season of conferences to read this
- 41:49Speaker 1: will be our this is our our third season. I've
- 41:52Speaker 1: seen this ship. I'm over it. Somebody has to go
- 41:58Speaker 1: and which was by the way, I want both of
- 42:01Speaker 1: them to stake of the great television.
- 42:02Speaker 3: But who do you think you're going to be? Then?
- 42:05Speaker 1: Oh honey, the only way Kyle's being removed if it's
- 42:09Speaker 1: Kyle's decision. Erica Jane did reveal on a red carpet
- 42:13Speaker 1: last week that the reunion was so bad that she
- 42:17Speaker 1: and Dery have not spoken since.
- 42:19Speaker 3: Okay, wait, wait, wait, that was way too much for
- 42:21Speaker 3: me to write my ry around say that again.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Erica Jane revealed yes, that the reunion was so bad
- 42:30Speaker 1: between her and de Ee that they not have spoken
- 42:33Speaker 1: since the reunion and she doesn't and she doesn't know
- 42:36Speaker 1: the state of their friendship.
- 42:40Speaker 3: Wow, what would this mean? They would let duiy go
- 42:42Speaker 3: for a season because now.
- 42:44Speaker 1: They need to read. I mean, the reason why this
- 42:46Speaker 1: is such a pick all love or hate her, and
- 42:50Speaker 1: I happened to love her right She's Derey is amazing television.
- 42:57Speaker 1: You need to read. You need Erica, you need Kyle.
- 43:00Speaker 1: The only thing that I think would makes sense is
- 43:04Speaker 1: if Kyle is cordial to de Reed, Like, look, I'm
- 43:12Speaker 1: not gonna act, I'm not gonna try to prepare this
- 43:14Speaker 1: friendship because we don't have one. But I can coexist
- 43:20Speaker 1: with you in a way that doesn't feel like i'm i'm, i'm, i'm,
- 43:25Speaker 1: I'm on your on your back. I think it's going
- 43:29Speaker 1: to be Erica versus Dry next season. And guess what,
- 43:32Speaker 1: that's what I want because Erica Jane read so good.
- 43:35Speaker 1: She belongs on Atlanta Housewives. I want to see Erica
- 43:38Speaker 1: Jane go up against Portia, Kenya all those girls. And
- 43:42Speaker 1: she's from Atlanta too, Erica Jane, so listen. But but
- 43:50Speaker 1: but but de Reed is also good and that's why
- 43:53Speaker 1: the Erica Jane and Dery blow up was so good.
- 43:59Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just, I just I don't you think
- 44:02Speaker 3: that they're gonna don't you think that they need Kyle
- 44:04Speaker 3: and Dared to be cordial, but also somewhat of Erica
- 44:08Speaker 3: and Durit to be cordial too, because they have to
- 44:09Speaker 3: film together. So what are they gonna do? Just sit
- 44:11Speaker 3: back and ignore each other? And now look at Duri's
- 44:13Speaker 3: stacking up the people against her. She doesn't like Amanda,
- 44:16Speaker 3: she you know, ad to Amanda. She's now she's mad
- 44:19Speaker 3: at Kyle and at at Erica. So it's like she's
- 44:23Speaker 3: just stacking all these people against her.
- 44:25Speaker 1: You know, Well, that's the thing. That's the thing I think. Listen,
- 44:28Speaker 1: Kyle is such a team player who wants to show
- 44:30Speaker 1: to do well. I think Kyle would take one for
- 44:33Speaker 1: the team in terms of being cordial, But you don't.
- 44:38Speaker 3: You don't think Erica would.
- 44:41Speaker 1: No the fact that with the retailed Erica, you're not
- 44:47Speaker 1: invez stop. I'm not doing this with you today, Erica,
- 44:51Speaker 1: I'm not doing this with you today. And Erica's like
- 44:54Speaker 1: doing what? Doing what? Girl? I won't keep talking. My
- 45:00Speaker 1: point is, no one tells Erica Jane what to do.
- 45:04Speaker 1: Very true. You're right, no one, no one, no one,
- 45:08Speaker 1: no one, no one. This it was this was epic.
- 45:12Speaker 1: The read left the table with cigarette in hand.
- 45:15Speaker 3: I didn't even know she smoked until I saw that puff.
- 45:17Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well go go go get that puff.
- 45:20Speaker 1: She's just she let me tell you something. Get the cigarette. Deal.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Fuck the book a band, because no shade to read.
- 45:26Speaker 1: No one's reading your book, and that is no shade.
- 45:28Speaker 1: I like you a lot.
- 45:29Speaker 3: How do you know I'm not.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Gonna Are you gonna?
- 45:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I might just do that.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Are you gonna buy it?
- 45:36Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, why wouldn't I that's a weird question. Else,
- 45:40Speaker 3: am I gonna get it?
- 45:42Speaker 1: Did you have any if I'm gonna buy it?
- 45:43Speaker 3: Give me for I am I gonna stick it up
- 45:45Speaker 3: my shirt and walk out the store. I mean they're
- 45:48Speaker 3: gonna read a book and show up to my house somehow.
- 45:51Speaker 1: We'll call your publicist Spencer and say, give me a
- 45:54Speaker 1: copy from the res publishing house. Honey, so read I will.
- 46:02Speaker 1: I'll read your book. If you're a publicist at the
- 46:04Speaker 1: publishing house, give it to me an Alexis, and we'll
- 46:07Speaker 1: have a book love and for it.
- 46:10Speaker 3: I'll post for it. Look what I'm reading tonight before bed? No,
- 46:18Speaker 3: I think I actually see I don't agree with you
- 46:21Speaker 3: I want to hear what the rain drops please comment
- 46:23Speaker 3: below raindrops. I want to hear what they have to say,
- 46:24Speaker 3: because I think it might be an interesting book, just
- 46:26Speaker 3: like now that I know Amanda, I want to read
- 46:28Speaker 3: her book too. I mean, I don't have time to
- 46:30Speaker 3: read right now, especially during the holidays and before my
- 46:32Speaker 3: son's wedding. But then once like my life back again,
- 46:34Speaker 3: I'm going to have time to read. But it's I
- 46:37Speaker 3: feel that, I feel that I think it might have
- 46:40Speaker 3: some really good Like you got captivated a little bit
- 46:42Speaker 3: by Amanda's book at the beginning, you know, so I
- 46:46Speaker 3: think I could. Yeah, I want to see what you're
- 46:49Speaker 3: I want to see what your raindrops say.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Well, rain jobs, let me know what you think again.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Epic scene. The two things I want to talk about
- 46:57Speaker 1: before I'll let you go. Alexis is yes out to
- 47:00Speaker 1: Rachel Zeau to see her son working at fourteen and
- 47:04Speaker 1: Rachelseau saying, I'm not raising a brat in La Hudos.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Who does love it?
- 47:12Speaker 1: Rachel Zaud as if I could not love you more,
- 47:15Speaker 1: I I thought that was great, by the way, Rachel
- 47:19Speaker 1: Zeaud Welcome to Housewives. Rachel Zold sat at that table,
- 47:23Speaker 1: like what the this this, this is not the rachelz
- 47:27Speaker 1: Old project. I'd rather argue with Brad Garretski beat Hey, hey, hey,
- 47:35Speaker 1: Rachel's like, the fuck is this? It was so good.
- 47:39Speaker 1: On top of that, I also want to say the
- 47:43Speaker 1: disco party Rachel looked studying. I love the yes she
- 47:49Speaker 1: it was. It was good.
- 47:50Speaker 3: It was Well, that's going to be a very interesting
- 47:53Speaker 3: episode because we're going to see some kind of a
- 47:56Speaker 3: face off between Erica, Dury and Kyle. We're going to
- 47:58Speaker 3: see some kind of a there's gonna be some kind
- 48:00Speaker 3: of exchange. It's not just gonna go, oh, let's go.
- 48:03Speaker 3: Dan's you know, to staying alive.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it was, it's it's it's This
- 48:12Speaker 1: episode was delicious and rain drops. Let us know the comments.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Whose side are you on? Dereet or Erica? And we
- 48:21Speaker 1: are back next week?
- 48:23Speaker 3: And de and Kyle? Whose side is everybody on? Between
- 48:26Speaker 3: Derry and Kyle and De and Erica?
- 48:29Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know Ri versus Kyle, Deri versus Erica?
- 48:32Speaker 1: Who sad of you're on? Dery? And And I'll am
- 48:35Speaker 1: I saying this. I personally love the Princeship for three
- 48:39Speaker 1: had I know, as a fan of the show, and
- 48:42Speaker 1: I am shocked that it got is gotten as bad
- 48:47Speaker 1: as it has and it shows me Dey gives no fucks.
- 48:52Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of people thought that
- 48:54Speaker 1: Rachel Zoe and Dey we're gonna have beef because Rachel
- 48:58Speaker 1: Zau is a established respective fashionista and in the words
- 49:04Speaker 1: of Sutton Strack, who shaded the fuck out of the
- 49:07Speaker 1: Reed when they brought up her Kelly bag and she goes,
- 49:11Speaker 1: it could have been writt the runway.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Or or what was the other one? Uh, you were right.
- 49:17Speaker 3: She gave two secondhand places that she could have got it.
- 49:21Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, Suton, you have that after reunion.
- 49:27Speaker 1: But I am pleasantly surprised and shocked that Rachel Zoe
- 49:35Speaker 1: has crafted a very loving rapport with Derie. Rachel loves
- 49:41Speaker 1: de Reed.
- 49:43Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's it's kind of fascinating to me,
- 49:46Speaker 3: but they they do have a true bond, like a
- 49:48Speaker 3: true you know, I mean, they have the kid thing
- 49:51Speaker 3: that they're both going through hard times with their kids
- 49:52Speaker 3: with the exes, and they've got that that they can
- 49:54Speaker 3: bond over, and they just, you know, I think I
- 49:57Speaker 3: think Rachel Zoe really does just feel sorry for de
- 49:58Speaker 3: eating what she's going through. But so now do you
- 50:01Speaker 3: think you know earlier when we first started podcasting about
- 50:05Speaker 3: their rehashing this episody seasons or the season, you said
- 50:09Speaker 3: it was going to be Rachel's versus Kyle for the crowd.
- 50:13Speaker 1: That's coming next season and maybe at the reunion, because
- 50:16Speaker 1: I think it's this Rachel'seeau is going to defend the
- 50:20Speaker 1: Red And when Rachel's on made the comment in the
- 50:23Speaker 1: in the Confessionals, it is giving mean girls. And I'm
- 50:27Speaker 1: not calling Colin mean girl. I'm just saying, you know,
- 50:31Speaker 1: that's what it is giving. I just think Rachel Zeau
- 50:36Speaker 1: doesn't appreciate Kyle's approach. Got it because of all the
- 50:45Speaker 1: times Rachel Zeaux instead of herself when it came to
- 50:49Speaker 1: Amanda getting her head chopped off. Yep, okay, Bows always
- 50:54Speaker 1: finds a way to defend the Red. The Mama Erica
- 50:57Speaker 1: Jane stepped into the room. Okay, Rachel and bol said,
- 51:03Speaker 1: we're out, deree. We can't help you here, sister. We can't.
- 51:08Speaker 1: We can't. We can't, we can't. So that's why that
- 51:11Speaker 1: will be very very interesting to.
- 51:14Speaker 3: See, agreed.
- 51:18Speaker 1: Well.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Juicy Juicy, Juicy.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Juicy, Juicy Beverly Hills. We love this episode. Alexis and
- 51:26Speaker 1: I are bat next week to give you guys another recap. Alexis,
- 51:29Speaker 1: have a great weekend. I love you.
- 51:30Speaker 3: Happy Easter and happy Passover. That's what we're at right
- 51:33Speaker 3: now for any of us, any Jewish or Christians, so
- 51:37Speaker 3: yeah or yeah yeah.
- 51:38Speaker 1: No, Happy Easter, Happy Passover, Today's good Friday, Happy Holy WEEKA.
- 51:46Speaker 3: Go get some go, get some eggs, Get some.
- 51:48Speaker 1: Eggs, Baby, I love you. Bye hye bye baby bye.
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