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The War on Men Is Backfiring | Nick Freitas · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: This has been going on for a long time, decades,
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Speaker 1: not years. Decades. The left has been running a deliberate
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Speaker 1: program to weaken American men, not as a side effect,
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Speaker 1: as a goal. Why are they doing that? Nick Fretis
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Speaker 1: has the proof, and what he found out should terrify
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Speaker 1: every man watching right now.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, over the last two decades, I think we have
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Speaker 2: to acknowledge that there's been a very concerted attempt to
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Speaker 2: try to tell men, especially young men, that men are
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Speaker 2: the source of all the evil in the world, where
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Speaker 2: the bad guys and so dumping on men has just
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Speaker 2: been like the favorite sport of the woke feminist left right,
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Speaker 2: and it hasn't just been where we usually expected it, right,
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Speaker 2: Like we expect it from the view we expected in
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Speaker 2: the gender studies department within the university, we don't expect
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Speaker 2: it in our elementary schools, right. And that's not to
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Speaker 2: say that every elementary school teacher was joy behar. It's
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Speaker 2: more of just there was this underlying current that was
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Speaker 2: going through our education systems, the movies that came out,
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Speaker 2: the cartoons that came out, the complete revamping of of
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Speaker 2: you know IP, the blooved ip like Star Wars or Marble,
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Speaker 2: where the narrative the entire time was men of the problem.
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Speaker 2: Men are stupid, men are weak. You look at cartoons,
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Speaker 2: it's always dumb fathers, and it's always the women or
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Speaker 2: the moms or whatever it was that had to save
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Speaker 2: the day, or that were strong and intelligent and powerful.
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Speaker 2: And it reinforced this narrative that men just need to
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Speaker 2: sit down and shut up because the future is female.
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Speaker 2: And if you have a lot of young men that
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Speaker 2: grew up in that environment and they weren't being defended
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Speaker 2: by anybody, well then it's not hard to understand why
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Speaker 2: they would either go down one path, which essentially says, well,
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Speaker 2: screw all of this, right, I'm going to play video games,
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Speaker 2: watch porn, and you know, go on welfare as and
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Speaker 2: as you can, or go down another path, which is
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Speaker 2: a little bit darker, which is no, no, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to reject all this. I'm going to be strong and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be capable. But it's so I can
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Speaker 2: stick it to you. And the way I put it
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Speaker 2: when I was at cal Berkeley, which as you know,
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Speaker 2: is the institution.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you went to cal Berkeley.
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Speaker 2: You actually studied tem Berkeley. No, no, no, I was there,
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Speaker 2: you were speaking way you went there, I was there
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Speaker 2: speaking to students, and I said, can I just let
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Speaker 2: you guys in on something. I said, woke progressivism loses,
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Speaker 2: you lose. Yeah, And of course you know they're going
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Speaker 2: to be a little bit wide out at this point.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, because there's no way you build civilization, defend civilization,
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Speaker 2: maintain civilization by alienating young men. Whether you like it
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Speaker 2: or not. They fight the wars, they police the streets,
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Speaker 2: they fight building stuff, build the buildings, build the stuff. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's not to say that women don't have an important role.
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Speaker 2: They absolutely do. But that is the role that young
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Speaker 2: men play. And you're not going to the vanguard of
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Speaker 2: the revolution is never going to be a bunch of
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Speaker 2: people that define themselves by, you know, their mental health issues.
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Speaker 2: So you've alienated the one group that you absolutely need
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Speaker 2: to convince, and so you lose. Now the question is
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Speaker 2: who wins. Now, what I would like to win are
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Speaker 2: men that are strong and capable, but do so in
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Speaker 2: service to God and service to their family and rights
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Speaker 2: to country. But that's not the only option to young men.
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Speaker 2: They could just say screw all of you, we're burning
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Speaker 2: it all down. And my hope from this book was
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Speaker 2: to say, look, I've learned some things. Servant special operations,
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Speaker 2: being in combat, being an elected office, being a husband
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Speaker 2: for twenty seven years, a father for twenty two years.
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Speaker 2: These are the things that I think men should just
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Speaker 2: generally know. And I learned him the hard way most
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Speaker 2: of the time, but they're important. And if we want
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Speaker 2: a sort of civilization that once again respects masculinity for
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Speaker 2: the important, the critical role that it plays within civilization,
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Speaker 2: then I want more men to step up and actually
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Speaker 2: take their God given role within society, and that is
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Speaker 2: to be good men who lead, who provide, who protect.
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Speaker 2: And these are the various keys that I found that
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Speaker 2: were just critical to being able to successfully do that.
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Speaker 1: I hope that everybody goes and gets the book. It's
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Speaker 1: called The Man Book, a point by a point guide
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Speaker 1: to sucking it up and getting the job done. It's
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Speaker 1: Nick Fredis. Go to Nickjfradis dot com. On YouTube, it's
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Speaker 1: Nick Jay Fratis as well. Right, yes, yeah, we made
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Speaker 1: it easy. At one point five million plus subscribers, which
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Speaker 1: is amazing. So let's talk about why it worked. It
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Speaker 1: didn't work on you and me. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: old you are, but I've am guessing a little bit old.
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Speaker 1: I'm older than you are. I'm fifty nine, started working
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Speaker 1: at twelve years old, been married for thirty five plus years.
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Speaker 1: I've got five children, I've got grandchildren. I'm the head
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Speaker 1: of the household period. Dad will do it, husband will
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Speaker 1: do it. The man will do it. I've been carrying
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Speaker 1: the burden on purpose, and I'm glad that I have
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Speaker 1: been for as long as I can remember. I work really,
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Speaker 1: really hard, even in this job that's more cushy than
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Speaker 1: you know than digging ditches and driving trucks. But but
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Speaker 1: I work really hard, and I go to bed tired.
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Speaker 1: I go to bed and I wake up tired, and
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Speaker 1: when go back out and do it again. If I
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm not making a dime for my family today,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm failing as a man. So whatever
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Speaker 1: the push was didn't work on me. I'm gen X,
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Speaker 1: but I'm old gen X. I'm guessing you might be
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Speaker 1: gen X as well. Yeah, why didn't it work on us? Nick?
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Speaker 2: Well? Zeeah, I'm forty six, so I'm young, Jenet. I
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Speaker 2: was like the last year of gen X, And in
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Speaker 2: order to properly relay this, I got to share a
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Speaker 2: story that I had with my co host. So my
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Speaker 2: cost is thirty thirty thirty two. Now we're about to
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Speaker 2: turn thirty two. And him and I were having a conversation.
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Speaker 2: I was talking about this wholeis. I was talking about
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Speaker 2: men sucking it up, getting the job down, the whole deal,
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Speaker 2: and the cameras go it looks at me and goes,
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Speaker 2: I'm so sick of hearing that crap. Wow. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: you're talking about something I talked about. As she goes, no,
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Speaker 2: I'm sick of hearing it from you.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: And I looked. I looked at him like, okay, explain.
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Speaker 2: He goes, you know, you've got a good career, You've
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Speaker 2: you've got a beautiful wife, you got kids that love
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Speaker 2: you got all this stuff, and yet you want to
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Speaker 2: look at all the rest of us and say, pick
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Speaker 2: yourself up your bootstraps. And I looked back at him.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh, because I just arrived at all
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Speaker 2: of this, right. I just woke up one day and
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Speaker 2: a beautiful woman was in my room, and all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, we had kids. I said, at twenty five
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Speaker 2: years old, I was behind a fifty caliber machine gun.
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Speaker 1: In a rack.
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Speaker 2: You were in college, Dude, like, spare me the craw
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Speaker 2: and we go through, and he said something that was
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Speaker 2: really profound to me. He looks back and he goes,
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Speaker 2: you know what, Nick, You're right. You're right. You were
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Speaker 2: at war. You were at twenty five, and I wasn't.
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Speaker 2: He goes, But I needed to give some insight into
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Speaker 2: what men from my generation are facing. You went to war.
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Speaker 2: That sucks, it's difficult. I can't imagine. However, your country,
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Speaker 2: your family, the culture, the community, your women in general.
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Speaker 2: They loved you for the masculine things you did. They
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Speaker 2: loved you for wanting to protect and provide, to lead.
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Speaker 2: They loved you for it. He goes. I grew up
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Speaker 2: in an environment from high school to college, he goes,
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Speaker 2: and I remember it where I was told repeatedly to
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Speaker 2: sit down, shut up, that I had nothing to contribute
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Speaker 2: to the conversation, that I was somehow bad by virtue
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Speaker 2: of the fact that I was a white, straight male.
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Speaker 2: He goes. They told me my masculinity, every single instinct
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Speaker 2: I had, was toxic, that I should bury it, that
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Speaker 2: I should exchange it for a feminist worldview. You know,
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Speaker 2: the professors reinforced it, Hollywood reinforced it. He goes. You
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Speaker 2: go into the corporate world. Oh, you're a straight man,
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Speaker 2: you're a straight white man. Forget it. You don't get
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Speaker 2: a job, you fit any quota, you have no place here,
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Speaker 2: he goes. So as much as I'm not comparing my
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Speaker 2: experience to war, what I'm saying is that when you
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Speaker 2: did difficult stuff as a man, it was rewarded.
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Speaker 1: And what I was told is it's toxic, you know,
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Speaker 1: And that's the lesson that they're learning. But Nick, that's
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Speaker 1: a great story. But he's wrong. And here, let me
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Speaker 1: make the point and tell me if you think I'm
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Speaker 1: right or wrong on this. We still hold up on high.
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Speaker 1: Are super Bowl champions. They're big, giant men that are
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Speaker 1: very masculine. We do the same for basketball players. They're
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Speaker 1: the ones that get the hot models. They're the ones
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Speaker 1: that are still succeeding in life. They're the ones driving
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Speaker 1: the big, bad cars, testosterone filled cars with the big
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Speaker 1: loud engines. So it's still there. He just believed the
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Speaker 1: narrative he was given. If he still were the man,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's probably a good man, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he learned a lot from that. Conversation. But if he
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Speaker 1: just would have bucked the system a little bit, I
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Speaker 1: think that's what they did, right. They took away the
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Speaker 1: ability of men to stand up to them and say no,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna succeed watch me, because this guy believed what
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Speaker 1: he was told, unfortunately, and sounds like you're helping to
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Speaker 1: re educate him. But does that make since what I
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Speaker 1: just said, you still are rewarded for being a winner,
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Speaker 1: for being victorious, for fighting the good fight, for protecting
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Speaker 1: your family, for learning how to use a gun the
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Speaker 1: right way. You still are if you just don't listen
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Speaker 1: to the noise.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's anywhere nearest to the degree when
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Speaker 2: we were growing up, Okay, and I'm gonna stand by that.
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Speaker 2: I think he actually made a really good point. And
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Speaker 2: because even even think about even what you mentioned, what
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Speaker 2: was it football? You know, baseball, like professional sports, just
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Speaker 2: represents a subset of a subset of a subset. And
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Speaker 2: the only reason why they can't get away with it
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Speaker 2: there is because the bottom line is, nobody would show
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Speaker 2: up to the games if you had a bunch of
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Speaker 2: you know, trans people playing in professional football just doesn't
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Speaker 2: work that way. By the same true yeah, by the
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Speaker 2: same token. What were all those store football players saying, right,
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Speaker 2: they were all sitting there marching with BLM. They were
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Speaker 2: all saying that, you know, they support the trans community.
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Speaker 2: They right, they were all they were repeating the narrative.
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Speaker 1: They hated the cops, all of that. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: So the men that should have been a neil for
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Speaker 2: the flag, neil for the national anthem. So the men
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Speaker 2: that had actually achieved some sort of status were not
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Speaker 2: coming to the aid of the young men that were
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Speaker 2: coming behind them. And there were some men that did,
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Speaker 2: and unfortunately some of them were not the best voices
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Speaker 2: because they were telling young men, no, you knew need
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Speaker 2: to buck theist, you need to be strong, you need
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Speaker 2: to be capable, but so you can sleep around, have
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Speaker 2: a nice car and say screw you to everybody. In fact,
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Speaker 2: one of the biggest failures, one of the biggest failures
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Speaker 2: on this question of masculinity with sticking up for younger
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Speaker 2: men was the church. It was because we have this
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Speaker 2: feminist we had this feminist approach to even the Gospel
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Speaker 2: where all of a sudden Jesus was like the lead
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Speaker 2: singer in a boy band instead of who he actually was. Right,
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Speaker 2: a strong masculine figure that yes, was compassionate, but was intelligent,
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Speaker 2: was wise, was strong, would use violence when necessary, and righteous. Right.
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Speaker 2: So the point he was making that I think is
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Speaker 2: a legitimate one, is that, yes, there's no way to
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Speaker 2: completely eliminate this idea that we're not going to reward
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Speaker 2: positive traits within society. But if you look at the
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Speaker 2: if you look at College of Mentons, if you look
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Speaker 2: at what was going on with in the corporate world,
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Speaker 2: it was it really was straight white men need not
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Speaker 2: apply for a lot of these for a lot of
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Speaker 2: these industries, for a lot of these courses. And even
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Speaker 2: if they did apply, and even if they'd get in there,
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Speaker 2: what were they told by their HR departments? You're the problem.
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Speaker 2: You need to sit down there and go through these grievance,
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Speaker 2: you know, struggle sessions. And the point was is it's
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Speaker 2: not to say that men don't need to stand up
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Speaker 2: and fight it anyways. In fact, that's the whole point
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Speaker 2: of what I write in here. The whole point of
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Speaker 2: what I write is if you're waiting for culture to
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Speaker 2: appreciate you for being a strong man in order to
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Speaker 2: become a strong man, it will never It will never happen.
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Speaker 2: It will never it will never transpire that way. You
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Speaker 2: do have to take it, you do have to demand it,
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Speaker 2: but you've also got to be worthy of it. And
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Speaker 2: the way that you're worthy of it is by understanding
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Speaker 2: your obligation to God. You understand your your obligation of
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Speaker 2: a family. And here's the here's the proof of this,
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Speaker 2: right if you look at they did a recent poll
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Speaker 2: where they were looking at young people, you know, young men,
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Speaker 2: young women, young men who voted for Trump, young women
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Speaker 2: who voted for Trump, young men who voted for Harris,
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Speaker 2: young women who voted for Harris, and they give them
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Speaker 2: thirteen criteria like life criteria, what are your ambitions, what
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Speaker 2: are your hopes? What are your dreams and aspirations? A
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Speaker 2: young man voting for Trump, their number one priority was
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Speaker 2: having a family. It was number six for young women
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Speaker 2: that voted for Trump, it was number seven for men
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Speaker 2: that voted for Harris, and it was number twelve out
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Speaker 2: of thirteen for young women that voted for Harris. Now
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Speaker 2: here's the postulive thing that, yes, here's the thing I
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Speaker 2: want young men to understand. Because young men who voted
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Speaker 2: for Trump, because conservative young men shows having a family
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Speaker 2: is number one. I promise you you go back and
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Speaker 2: take that same poll in four or five years, and
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Speaker 2: the amount of young women that prioritize that a well
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Speaker 2: will go from six to much higher. It'll get much
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Speaker 2: closer to number one. Because when you lead, and when
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Speaker 2: you lead well, when you become the sort of man
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Speaker 2: that is honorable, that is noble, that is compassionate, that
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Speaker 2: is strong, it attracts. It attracts, and there's only so
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Speaker 2: much much civilization can do to or there's only so
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Speaker 2: much progressivism or leftism or whatever it is the current
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Speaker 2: cultural trends can do to try to fight that. But
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Speaker 2: this leads us into the bigger question. That's the one
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Speaker 2: why where did this happen? And that's where you go
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Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole of postmodernism, of Marxism, of critical theory, deconstructionism,
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Speaker 2: and that's where you start to learn like, oh, this
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Speaker 2: was intentional, This wasn't by accident, this wasn't some fluke.
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Speaker 2: This was a decades long project. And what certain people
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Speaker 2: with certain political ideologies realized was that if they could
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Speaker 2: demoralize young men, they could break down some of the
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Speaker 2: social institutions and fabric of our society. In such a
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Speaker 2: way to try to remake it in their own image.
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Speaker 2: And again, like I said before that class at cal Berkeley,
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Speaker 2: you lose, You're going to lose right now. It's just
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Speaker 2: a question of which men actually win.
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Speaker 1: Everybody should go and get this book is called the
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Speaker 1: Man Book, a point by a point guide to shucking
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Speaker 1: it up and getting getting the job done. It's Nick J. Fredis.
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Speaker 1: Go to its fr E. I. T. A. S. Is
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Speaker 1: his last name. Go check them out on YouTube. It's
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Speaker 1: incredible content creator, influencer. If we like that word today
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Speaker 1: or not, let's let's go in the rabbit hole a
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Speaker 1: little bit. We used to make everything here. In fact,
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Speaker 1: we're the economy that we are. We're the number one,
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Speaker 1: you know, economic country on the planet because of cars,
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Speaker 1: because of manufacturing, because of what we did with textiles,
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Speaker 1: and then we will let it all go overseas. And
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Speaker 1: I think to your point, that was on purpose. We
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Speaker 1: had to take away our ability to make stuff and
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Speaker 1: become a service economy. Therefore we were reliant on somebody else,
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Speaker 1: and where we're when we're reliant on China or Japan
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Speaker 1: or whoever the hell is making the stuff that we're
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Speaker 1: not making anymore. Although Trump's trying to bring it back.
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Speaker 1: That also makes us more reliant on government. Central government
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Speaker 1: wants the power on all of us. I think that
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Speaker 1: you made a really really the salient point many of them,
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Speaker 1: but this one really jumped out. I think the government
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Speaker 1: wants to take the power from strong men because if
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Speaker 1: they're the father in the house the government is, then
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Speaker 1: they win. If they're the higher power, if they're God
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Speaker 1: and they want to be, then they win. If they
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Speaker 1: give us where we live, what we wear, how much
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Speaker 1: money we make, how are heat comes in, how much
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Speaker 1: internet we can have, they control everything. People like you
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Speaker 1: and I. I don't know you personally, but I hope
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Speaker 1: to get to know you better. But I guarantee you,
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Speaker 1: just like I am, I don't rely on the government
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Speaker 1: for anything. I mean literally nothing. I live where I want,
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Speaker 1: I drive what I want, I spend the money I want.
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Speaker 1: I take care of my family the way that I want.
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Speaker 1: I don't want for anything from the government. But you
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Speaker 1: and I are rare in that sense. I'm guessing that
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Speaker 1: you live the same way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely, And I can even remember a time
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Speaker 2: where you know, when I was in the military, I
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Speaker 2: was a young enlisted men in the military, and my
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Speaker 2: wife and I had gotten married at nineteen and twenty.
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Speaker 2: We did not have a lot of money. We qualified
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Speaker 2: for government benefits, we qualified for food stamps when we
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Speaker 2: first had our first child, we qualified for or qualified
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Speaker 2: for wick and we didn't take any of it. And
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Speaker 2: I remember one time when we were when we were
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Speaker 2: first married, we had the power turned off in the
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Speaker 2: winter because you know, we screwed up and didn't have
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Speaker 2: enough money for the bill. And I learned a very
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Speaker 2: important lesson on there because there's a lot of people like, well,
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Speaker 2: why don't you just take the why don't you just
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Speaker 2: take the government handouts? I'm like, no, because I know
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Speaker 2: because I don't need that, I don't want that. There
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Speaker 2: was a centerin prise pride. Yeah, there was a sense
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Speaker 2: of pride and still me, this is my responsibility, and
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Speaker 2: I'm sure as I'm not going to go to the government, who,
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Speaker 2: by the way, just stole the money from somebody else
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Speaker 2: to now give it to me, because the moment I
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Speaker 2: start taking it, they own a piece of me. And
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Speaker 2: that's what they want. They want to own a piece
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Speaker 2: of me. That money doesn't come for free. And you know,
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Speaker 2: thankfully we had some family that helped us to be
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Speaker 2: able to get the power turn back on. But I
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Speaker 2: remember how I felt about that because I watched people
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Speaker 2: that would take the government funds and what happened was
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Speaker 2: is they felt entitled. The way they dealt with their
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Speaker 2: pride in that moment was they turn it into entitlement. Well, no,
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Speaker 2: I'm owed this money. I'm owed this money because I
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Speaker 2: need it. Right, And that's a very Marxist principle, Right,
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Speaker 2: I'm owed something because I need it. I didn't look
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Speaker 2: at it that way. I'm only owed what I earn.
15:49
Speaker 2: That's the sort of society where you actually celebrate success,
15:53
Speaker 2: and it's the sort of society when someone comes in
15:55
Speaker 2: and helps you, like my family did. At that point,
15:58
Speaker 2: I didn't feel entitled. I felt great attitude because I
16:01
Speaker 2: realized that there was something that was deficient in me
16:04
Speaker 2: that I needed to improve. But what it also meant
16:07
Speaker 2: was that you help out your friends and family when
16:09
Speaker 2: they needed You help out your friend when something has happened,
16:12
Speaker 2: You come alongside, you help them out, because that breeds gratitude,
16:15
Speaker 2: not entitlement. And if you really want community, you need gratitude, right.
16:19
Speaker 2: Gratitude Foster's community entitlement as you looking at everybody else
16:24
Speaker 2: and what they have and what you don't, and asking
16:26
Speaker 2: which politician will take from them to give to me,
16:29
Speaker 2: And the moment you give into that, they've got you,
16:31
Speaker 2: because you're never going to take responsibility for your own
16:34
Speaker 2: life or your own decisions. You're just going to look at, well,
16:36
Speaker 2: which politician has promised me the most stuff at the
16:39
Speaker 2: expense of somebody else.
16:40
Speaker 1: And by the way, they're lying half the time. What
16:42
Speaker 1: you just described is what m Donnie's doing in New York.
16:44
Speaker 1: They're lying. Mum Donnie said free buses. There are no
16:47
Speaker 1: free busses. Mum Donnie said, he's going to build very
16:50
Speaker 1: cheap grocery stores in the neighborhood. It's going to cost
16:52
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars to build a grocery store. And just
16:54
Speaker 1: yesterday or the day before, he does some stupid video
16:57
Speaker 1: where he's standing outside of where there are penthouses complain
17:00
Speaker 1: about some dude that could afford a two or three
17:02
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar penhouse, about how I'm going to go
17:04
Speaker 1: get some of that guy's money, and people are cheering, yeah,
17:06
Speaker 1: get his money. We're not entitled to that. So I
17:09
Speaker 1: want to go back to the word that you and
17:10
Speaker 1: I said almost exactly at the same time, and we
17:12
Speaker 1: didn't plan it. We both said the word pride. So
17:15
Speaker 1: how exactly do we instill pride in people who have
17:18
Speaker 1: been told not to have it?
17:19
Speaker 2: How do you do that?
17:20
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because you and I have it and they can't
17:22
Speaker 1: take it away from us.
17:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is we have to distinguish because this is again,
17:26
Speaker 2: this is some of the tricks that we use. Right,
17:28
Speaker 2: they look at pride from the sense like obviously the
17:30
Speaker 2: Bible tells us not to be prideful. We're not talking
17:32
Speaker 2: about the kind of arrogant prideful. What we're talking about
17:36
Speaker 2: is a sense of ownership because of one's actions. It's
17:40
Speaker 2: a sense of accomplishment. You know, when I remember growing up,
17:43
Speaker 2: there's a whole like, oh self esteem. Self esteem, Like
17:45
Speaker 2: self esteem can be given to you. It's earned by
17:48
Speaker 2: doing estimable things. Yes, right, that's how you do. You
17:51
Speaker 2: earn that, you don't just have it handed to you.
17:53
Speaker 2: And so the thing that we have to do is
17:55
Speaker 2: get people back into the business of starting off with
17:58
Speaker 2: little things. And it really starts with how you raise
18:00
Speaker 2: your kids, because the moment you have this attitude. Dennis
18:03
Speaker 2: Prager actually said this best. I heard him say once
18:05
Speaker 2: when he was talking to World War two vets and
18:07
Speaker 2: they were talking about I want to give my kids
18:09
Speaker 2: everything I don't I didn't have, and Dennis Prager said, okay,
18:12
Speaker 2: but can you please give them the things you did,
18:15
Speaker 2: like resilience, like taking ownership of things, like personal responsibility.
18:20
Speaker 2: Because the moment you think your job as a parent
18:22
Speaker 2: is just give my kids things, well again, you're breeding entitlement.
18:26
Speaker 2: So when you start off very young and say no, hey, buddy,
18:29
Speaker 2: like when I would tell my son or my daughters,
18:30
Speaker 2: they would have to earn things, and it's little stuff.
18:33
Speaker 2: I love this example. I told all of my kids
18:35
Speaker 2: when they were old enough to understand, just so you know,
18:39
Speaker 2: we don't owe you a car, and we don't owe
18:41
Speaker 2: you a college education. That doesn't mean we can't help.
18:44
Speaker 2: If you're working diligently to achieve something, but you're not
18:47
Speaker 2: owed it, right, you have to earn that. And what's
18:51
Speaker 2: amazing is by the time my kids were getting up
18:53
Speaker 2: to driving age, it became a sense of pride to
18:56
Speaker 2: them that no, no, I'm going to pay for my own car.
18:58
Speaker 2: That's not something downer mom does. That's than I do.
19:00
Speaker 2: And they did they worked hard, and when they bought
19:03
Speaker 2: that card, they took care of it. They took pride
19:05
Speaker 2: in it, they took ownership of it. When my oldest daughter,
19:09
Speaker 2: right found out she needed new break so it was like, well,
19:11
Speaker 2: it's twelve hundred dollars to fix or you can figure
19:13
Speaker 2: out how to do it. She figured out how to
19:15
Speaker 2: do it. And you think in that moment, okay, well breaks,
19:18
Speaker 2: she changed her breaks. Change your breaks, change break pads,
19:22
Speaker 2: I love, change your break paths past inspection. But here's
19:25
Speaker 2: the part that's an important to understanding because some people
19:27
Speaker 2: are like, oh, she learned how to she learned how
19:29
Speaker 2: to do a thing. No, she learned that when there
19:32
Speaker 2: was a challenge, she had both the responsibility and the
19:35
Speaker 2: ability to figure out how to do something and do
19:38
Speaker 2: it for herself. And she ended up applying that knowledge
19:41
Speaker 2: to just about every other area of her life. Not
19:44
Speaker 2: because she wants to be some strong, independent feminist boss, right,
19:47
Speaker 2: but because it's this idea that, no, I'm going to
19:49
Speaker 2: be the sort of person that when I see challenges,
19:52
Speaker 2: I look for ways that I can overcome them. And
19:55
Speaker 2: that is a complete mindset change, right, That's a complete shift,
19:59
Speaker 2: paradigm shift. Once you see. Once you see challenges as
20:02
Speaker 2: something that you have the ability and responsibility to overcome,
20:06
Speaker 2: it changes your entire outlook on life. And again it
20:09
Speaker 2: was it was something as simple as telling my kids,
20:11
Speaker 2: I don't know you a car?
20:12
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Well, well it turns out that's true. It's
20:16
Speaker 1: nick freight is you know, it's a it's a It's
20:18
Speaker 1: a very fine line that we try to balance as
20:20
Speaker 1: fathers and as responsible I think that pride comes from responsibilities,
20:24
Speaker 1: accepting responsibilities, and doing them well. I think it's not
20:27
Speaker 1: about looking in the mirror and saying I like my
20:28
Speaker 1: hair and my muscles today. It's not that at all.
20:30
Speaker 1: It's something very different. I am proud that my family
20:33
Speaker 1: can rely on me, but I also want them to
20:34
Speaker 1: be self reliant. So that's the that's the balance that
20:37
Speaker 1: we try to make. How do you do that? Because
20:39
Speaker 1: you and I grew up in a sense to where
20:41
Speaker 1: we probably said my parents did a lot right, but
20:43
Speaker 1: I would like to improve this thing that they didn't do.
20:46
Speaker 1: So how do we do that while still instilling in
20:48
Speaker 1: them you should still grow up and be an independent,
20:49
Speaker 1: prideful person.
20:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's great. I actually I write a chapter
20:54
Speaker 2: on giving your parents a break because nobody does this
20:57
Speaker 2: perfectly right. Nobody does this perfectly and so what you
21:00
Speaker 2: should do. My wife talks about this as well. What
21:02
Speaker 2: you should do is show genuine appreciation for the things
21:05
Speaker 2: your parents got right, and then improve upon it. I
21:08
Speaker 2: want my kids to improve upon what I did for them.
21:11
Speaker 2: I want this to get perpetually better. I want the
21:14
Speaker 2: legacy of our family to be is that it got
21:16
Speaker 2: perpetually better with each generation because each generation built upon
21:19
Speaker 2: what the previous generation gave them. That is what civilization
21:23
Speaker 2: is supposed to be. But the way that I think
21:25
Speaker 2: we do that is, again, we show appreciation for what
21:27
Speaker 2: our parents taught us. We recognize where there's deficits. One
21:30
Speaker 2: of the things that my wife and I did we
21:31
Speaker 2: both came from families of divorce. So when everybody tells
21:34
Speaker 2: me like, oh, well, Nick, I'm so glad you got lucky, dude,
21:37
Speaker 2: screw you right, Like my wife and I came from
21:40
Speaker 2: parents of both families of divorce. We got married at
21:43
Speaker 2: nineteen and twenty. I was in the military, which is
21:45
Speaker 2: not the easiest occupation on a marriage. Then I went
21:48
Speaker 2: into special forces, which is definitely not easy on a
21:50
Speaker 2: marriage in war time right, and yet our marriage thrive
21:54
Speaker 2: when we watch other ones get destroyed. Why one of
21:57
Speaker 2: the biggest things I tell people, and I beg them
21:59
Speaker 2: to believe me, is in the absence of having something
22:04
Speaker 2: shown to you right, which is ideal, right, is they
22:06
Speaker 2: have it modeled for you. Yes, we really leaned into
22:09
Speaker 2: our faith. We leaned in our faith. We leaned in
22:11
Speaker 2: what Scripture had to say about who I was as
22:13
Speaker 2: a man, who she was as a woman, who I
22:14
Speaker 2: was as a husband, who she was as a wife, parents, etc.
22:18
Speaker 2: And we screwed it up a lot, but we made
22:20
Speaker 2: a faithful attempt, and I was shocked at how much
22:22
Speaker 2: God blessed that faithful attempt. So I think it's one
22:26
Speaker 2: of those things where you teach your kids as best
22:29
Speaker 2: you can. But here's one of the most important things
22:31
Speaker 2: I tell people. If you teach your kids that there
22:34
Speaker 2: is such a thing as a standard, there is objective morality,
22:37
Speaker 2: there is objective truth. There's not your truth in my truth.
22:40
Speaker 2: We might have different perspectives on an event, a thing,
22:43
Speaker 2: an idea, but there's one truth. If you teach them that,
22:47
Speaker 2: sooner or later, you're going to screw up. You're going
22:50
Speaker 2: to screw up and The worst possible thing you can
22:52
Speaker 2: do is tell your kids to pound sand when they
22:54
Speaker 2: call you on it. Now, they need to do it respectfully.
22:57
Speaker 2: But when your kids can call them mat and say,
22:59
Speaker 2: you know, Dad, you know you said this, but then
23:01
Speaker 2: you did this, if in that moment you can stop
23:04
Speaker 2: yourself and be like, you know what, You're right.
23:07
Speaker 1: So I say, go to your room right now, that's
23:09
Speaker 1: that's wrong. Yea, you shouldn't do that out of my face.
23:13
Speaker 1: Can't do that.
23:14
Speaker 2: We've all done it at some point. But the story
23:17
Speaker 2: I related people for myself where this really hit home
23:20
Speaker 2: was I came home one time from work. I was tired,
23:22
Speaker 2: long day, right, I'm providing for my family. I come
23:25
Speaker 2: in and the kitchen is just a mess. My two
23:28
Speaker 2: youngest children look like they've conducted a really bad science experiment.
23:32
Speaker 2: And I just I go right into it. I'm no
23:34
Speaker 2: longer dad mode. I'm in sergeant first class mode. Right,
23:37
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you guys doing? What is this? What?
23:40
Speaker 2: You clean this crap up and get to your room?
23:42
Speaker 2: But Dad, clean it up and get to your room.
23:44
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about this is ridiculous. And then I
23:47
Speaker 2: go I go starm it off to my room, and
23:49
Speaker 2: about ten minutes later, my oldest daughter at the time
23:52
Speaker 2: it was probably about you again, thirteen fourteen, knocks on
23:54
Speaker 2: my door. She goes, Daddy, can I talk to you
23:56
Speaker 2: for a minute. I said, yeah, sure, what is it?
23:58
Speaker 2: She goes, I don't think you handle that well? And
24:00
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, oh, oh really right. But for
24:04
Speaker 2: some reason, for some reason, it was like God was
24:07
Speaker 2: just saying you better listen, you better take this moment
24:10
Speaker 2: and listen. And I said, all right, sweetheart, why do
24:14
Speaker 2: you think that? She goes. The reason why Luke and Ally,
24:17
Speaker 2: my two youngest kids, were down in the kitchen, was
24:20
Speaker 2: because Mommy gave them permission to make something for you,
24:24
Speaker 2: and they had been working really, really hard on it,
24:26
Speaker 2: and they were really really proud to be able to
24:28
Speaker 2: present this to you. And instead of asking them what
24:31
Speaker 2: they were doing or waiting for an answer, you just yelled.
24:34
Speaker 2: And now they're in their rooms and they're too afraid
24:36
Speaker 2: to tell you. And I mean, obviously I felt horrible, right,
24:41
Speaker 2: obviously I felt horrible, But in that moment, there was
24:45
Speaker 2: a couple different things I could have done. Right. I
24:47
Speaker 2: could have said, well, you know, I'm sorry, but I'm
24:49
Speaker 2: busy and I'm tired and i'm you know whatever, And
24:52
Speaker 2: I decided what I was going to do, because then,
24:54
Speaker 2: thereby the grace of God, go I. I said, sweetheart,
24:57
Speaker 2: you're right and I'm wrong.
25:00
Speaker 1: Wow.
25:00
Speaker 2: And I want to thank you for having the courage
25:03
Speaker 2: to come and tell me, because because you had the
25:06
Speaker 2: courage to come and tell me, I'm not only going
25:08
Speaker 2: to apologize to you, I'm going to go apologize to
25:11
Speaker 2: your brother and sister and so thank you and went over.
25:16
Speaker 1: It is.
25:17
Speaker 2: But it was like, in that moment, I realized something
25:20
Speaker 2: I had been teaching them, a standard for conduct that
25:22
Speaker 2: I had fallen short of. If in that moment I
25:25
Speaker 2: had said, well, this is my house, these are my rules,
25:26
Speaker 2: and who are you to tell me anything, what I
25:28
Speaker 2: would have taught them is that the standards I had
25:30
Speaker 2: told them were objective, were not they were arbitrary. They're
25:33
Speaker 2: based off of who's in charge, who's in power. I'm
25:36
Speaker 2: in powered, my house, my rules, that's it, right. But
25:39
Speaker 2: that's not what I was trying to teach him. I
25:40
Speaker 2: was trying to teach him that God tells us something
25:43
Speaker 2: about right and wrong, and if I fall short of it,
25:45
Speaker 2: then I got to own up to it. And what
25:47
Speaker 2: it teaches your kids in that moment is that one,
25:50
Speaker 2: it's courage, right, it's courage to approach authority and tell
25:53
Speaker 2: them that they're wrong. But do you want kids that
25:55
Speaker 2: are willing to do that with authority or do you
25:57
Speaker 2: want them to go off and all of a sudden
25:59
Speaker 2: just be blown by whatever direction the wind goes, right,
26:02
Speaker 2: Because it may be all finding good when they're in
26:04
Speaker 2: your house. What happened when it's not your house? What
26:07
Speaker 2: happens when it's the teacher or the college professor, or
26:09
Speaker 2: the boss, or the social group or whatever it is.
26:13
Speaker 2: If you just taught them the rules are arbitrary based
26:15
Speaker 2: off of whatever works, you know, whoever's in power, then
26:19
Speaker 2: you've lost it. They're going to immediately abandon I say
26:22
Speaker 2: this all the time when conservatives are Christians will send
26:24
Speaker 2: their kids off to college and they'll come home like,
26:26
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. It's like, well, did you
26:28
Speaker 2: teach them the truth? Did you teach them what was
26:31
Speaker 2: right and wrong? Or did you just teach them an
26:33
Speaker 2: authority structure right that they immediately abandoned when they left.
26:37
Speaker 1: That's great, No, I think you're spot on. You know
26:40
Speaker 1: this wasn't about you and me reflecting on when we
26:42
Speaker 1: made mistakes as fathers. But you told that story and
26:46
Speaker 1: it was a great story that reminded me of my
26:48
Speaker 1: daughter Sam, who is my executive producer. She's my second born,
26:52
Speaker 1: probably the mini me out of my five daughters, to
26:54
Speaker 1: be honest. And one day I was having a day Nick.
26:57
Speaker 1: I was having a really bad day. And this is
26:59
Speaker 1: a while backs. I think that the iPhone four was
27:02
Speaker 1: probably the newest and greatest thing, and now we're on
27:05
Speaker 1: like the seventeen. But she was just really making me angry,
27:10
Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you do? Say why
27:11
Speaker 1: are you doing this? And she did what your child
27:15
Speaker 1: did and said, Dad, I've been trying to find you
27:18
Speaker 1: the iPhone four all day. And I went, oh, damn it.
27:22
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because you immediately make the decision.
27:24
Speaker 1: I'm the boss, I'm the authority. You're not doing what
27:26
Speaker 1: I say. You're acting in a way that I don't like.
27:28
Speaker 1: You look to me the wrong way. How dare you?
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm the boss, I'm the seniority here, you're my subordinate.
27:33
Speaker 1: Go to your room. But then when I found that out,
27:35
Speaker 1: she had taken her day most of her day. Did
27:37
Speaker 1: you try to find me the latest and greatest that
27:39
Speaker 1: she knew that I would like, and she was doing
27:41
Speaker 1: it without anybody asking her to do it. So I
27:43
Speaker 1: think that it does take a man to take a
27:45
Speaker 1: breath and say, you know, maybe you can take in
27:47
Speaker 1: your surroundings before you go bisk it ballistic and act
27:51
Speaker 1: out in a certain way. And that's a very important
27:53
Speaker 1: lesson learn because I think that men who are weaker
27:56
Speaker 1: might have said, well, I don't care what you're looking for,
27:58
Speaker 1: go to your room, whereas I said, oh, man, I
28:00
Speaker 1: feel like an idiot. So I really can appreciate that
28:03
Speaker 1: because I've lived that many many times. The man book
28:06
Speaker 1: go and get it a point by a point. Guy
28:07
Speaker 1: is sucking it up and getting the job done. What
28:09
Speaker 1: role do you think Trump plays in bringing back masculinity?
28:12
Speaker 1: And this isn't about propping up the president, but he's
28:15
Speaker 1: six two and a half, doesn't mind saying what he
28:17
Speaker 1: feels like it, even if it bothers us. He's in charge.
28:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the deal. I'm the boss of the
28:23
Speaker 1: country to make the country better. Did he play a
28:26
Speaker 1: role because I think if we had Harrison office right now,
28:28
Speaker 1: we might be perpetuating weak men.
28:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think he does. And again, and I'm
28:34
Speaker 2: someone of them has voted for the president every time
28:36
Speaker 2: he's run, right, me too. I've been supportive of him,
28:39
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I support everything he does or
28:42
Speaker 2: every comment out of his mouth. I always tell people
28:44
Speaker 2: there's only one person that ever walked the earth and
28:46
Speaker 2: gets my undying loyalty, and that's Jesus Christ. Everyone else,
28:49
Speaker 2: everyone else, We're gonna have a conversation roll flawed, Yeah, yeah,
28:52
Speaker 2: But I think one of the things that I've respected
28:54
Speaker 2: about Trump. There's a lot of people that will kind
28:57
Speaker 2: of go after him for some of his mannerisms, some
28:59
Speaker 2: of the things he said as like the ad Hominem
29:01
Speaker 2: attacks and things like that, and what I will generally
29:03
Speaker 2: remind people of is like, that's fine. I think that's
29:06
Speaker 2: it's appropriate to say, hey, I don't think this was
29:08
Speaker 2: the right thing to do or the right way to
29:10
Speaker 2: word this. By the same token, I also think he's
29:12
Speaker 2: the president for a certain time. And the way the
29:15
Speaker 2: way I describe it to people is if I had
29:18
Speaker 2: to get open heart surgery, which is to say, my
29:20
Speaker 2: life depends on this being done, well, I want the
29:23
Speaker 2: doctor who is absolutely the best at what they do.
29:27
Speaker 2: I would love it if they also had good side
29:30
Speaker 2: bedside manner, but I'll settle for the doctor that knows
29:33
Speaker 2: what he's doing, especially over the one that might have
29:38
Speaker 2: good bedside matter but sucks at his job. And sometimes
29:42
Speaker 2: sometimes that's your choice. Right, all of us should be
29:44
Speaker 2: working to the the to be the competent physician that
29:48
Speaker 2: also has good bedside matter. Right, that should be that
29:51
Speaker 2: should be our objective. But I think we should also
29:53
Speaker 2: appreciate when when people have to make difficult decisions and
29:56
Speaker 2: they're actually willing to make those decisions. And I think
30:00
Speaker 2: one of the things that really frustrates people about Trump
30:02
Speaker 2: as well is that, you know, for the long time,
30:04
Speaker 2: we've had this impression that what the president does goes
30:06
Speaker 2: out there and he clearly articulates everything that he's going
30:09
Speaker 2: to do ahead of time. And Trump has realized that
30:13
Speaker 2: most of this job is about negotiation. Whether it's with
30:16
Speaker 2: you know, other people, whether it's with governors, whether it's
30:18
Speaker 2: with Congress, whether it's with you know, foreign dignitaries, whatever
30:22
Speaker 2: it is, it's negotiation. And the way you went in
30:24
Speaker 2: negotiation is you you ask for the world, You start high,
30:28
Speaker 2: you threaten when you need to and then you you
30:31
Speaker 2: negotiate generally to what you what you actually want. And
30:34
Speaker 2: you see how Trump did this very well, and things
30:37
Speaker 2: like the Greenland negotiations. You see how he did it
30:39
Speaker 2: well with Panama negotiations. And then when he's had to
30:42
Speaker 2: use force, you know, he he hasn't engaged in you know,
30:46
Speaker 2: multi decade nation building exercises. He knows how to use
30:49
Speaker 2: the military for punitive expeditions, right, ask just ask Maduro.
30:53
Speaker 2: He knows all about it. Yes, So I give there's
30:57
Speaker 2: a lot of areas where, you know, I may want
31:00
Speaker 2: a more Reaganesque approach in the explanation, but I appreciate that.
31:04
Speaker 2: I think he's been willing to take tough decisions in
31:07
Speaker 2: tough times. I'm with you.
31:09
Speaker 1: Listen, when he represents himself as Jesus in a retweet
31:13
Speaker 1: or retruth, I'm gonna call him out. I'm not very
31:16
Speaker 1: happy about that. When he wants to argue with the
31:17
Speaker 1: Pope openly, constantly every day, all right, enough, the Pope
31:21
Speaker 1: is a weak pope, I get it. But yeah, but
31:23
Speaker 1: you're right. More than not, I appreciate that we have
31:25
Speaker 1: somebody who's got a backbone and somebody who will negotiate
31:28
Speaker 1: what's best for America in that office. Let me leave
31:31
Speaker 1: you with this and I can talk to you two
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Speaker 1: for three hours. Go and get nixt book. It's called
31:34
Speaker 1: the Man Book, and go to Nickjfradis dot com or
31:37
Speaker 1: at nick Jfradis over on YouTube. He's got a massive
31:40
Speaker 1: following and follow on all the social media. I believe
31:41
Speaker 1: we do. I'm just about all the social media. But
31:43
Speaker 1: I don't leave you with this here where I sit
31:45
Speaker 1: in Texas, James tallerco is running for US Senate. He's
31:49
Speaker 1: going to be taking on either John Cornyn or Ken Paxton.
31:52
Speaker 1: Both are flawed candidates on the right. I'll be honest
31:54
Speaker 1: with you. Ken is a friend of mine. John's been
31:56
Speaker 1: on a million times. I think that one of those
31:59
Speaker 1: clearly would be and shoulders better than tall Rico. The
32:02
Speaker 1: problem is he's a really, really good liar. He's a
32:05
Speaker 1: weak man, but he's backed by tons of money. He
32:08
Speaker 1: raised twenty seven million dollars last month. And that's a
32:11
Speaker 1: major problem for either one of the people on the right.
32:13
Speaker 1: They could steal this Senate seat. How do we make
32:16
Speaker 1: sure that people understand that we can't rest in our
32:18
Speaker 1: laurels as Americans that love the country, love the Constitution,
32:23
Speaker 1: as men who love our responsibilities and love our pride,
32:25
Speaker 1: how do we make sure that people don't get lulled asleep?
32:28
Speaker 1: This guy's lying about Christianity, he's lying about the Word
32:31
Speaker 1: of God, he's lying about Mary. How to give consentrals?
32:34
Speaker 1: Jesus could have been aborted. I mean the whole The
32:36
Speaker 1: guy's nuts, but he does it in satu. It's very
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Speaker 1: Obama esque. He's a very weak I'm going to call
32:42
Speaker 1: him a girly man. I don't care if that gets
32:43
Speaker 1: being in trouble or not. Yet, the way he speaks
32:46
Speaker 1: is very convincing to those who don't have any knowledge.
32:48
Speaker 1: What do you do in the face of that?
32:50
Speaker 2: Well, I think some of it you confront bad You
32:53
Speaker 2: confront bad information with good information. And I know that
32:56
Speaker 2: sounds overly simplistic, but there's an element of truth to that.
32:59
Speaker 2: You Also, here's the other thing. This guy would get
33:01
Speaker 2: crushed in a debate with Wes Huff or Josh Howardton.
33:04
Speaker 2: If you want to prue out of Texas, right, this
33:06
Speaker 2: guy would get absolutely crushed. He'd get embarrassed. And so
33:10
Speaker 2: you need to set up environments where you can do that.
33:12
Speaker 2: The other thing that I tell men is, look, I
33:14
Speaker 2: served for ten years in a state legislature. Right. I
33:17
Speaker 2: served for ten years in the Virginia General Assembly. And
33:19
Speaker 2: one of the things I found so frustrating is that
33:22
Speaker 2: I would have people who they did love their country,
33:25
Speaker 2: but they would talk about loving the Constitution. They would
33:27
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, wanting to preserve America. But then
33:30
Speaker 2: when you got into the brass tax of okay, well
33:32
Speaker 2: what are you doing about it? It was always well,
33:34
Speaker 2: I voted for you. Oh well, I guess that's the
33:36
Speaker 2: total end of your civic duty. Right. I guess you
33:39
Speaker 2: go to church on Sunday. Okay, I guess I guess
33:41
Speaker 2: we've checked the box.
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Speaker 1: Right.
33:42
Speaker 2: I mean, when I look at the way I was raised,
33:44
Speaker 2: I remember, I will always be very appreciative this. My
33:47
Speaker 2: mom took me on Christian missionary trips when I was
33:50
Speaker 2: young because she really believed that charity was something that
33:52
Speaker 2: you took on as an individual responsibility. It wasn't something
33:55
Speaker 2: that you should or could delegate to the government. And
33:59
Speaker 2: so we go overseas and we do this, we do
34:00
Speaker 2: stuff domestically. But then she would look around and she goes, Nick,
34:04
Speaker 2: you I have helped you see part of the world.
34:05
Speaker 2: You understand how good we have it here. You have
34:08
Speaker 2: a personal responsibility to make sure that you can pass
34:10
Speaker 2: that on, and that means understanding how this system works.
34:14
Speaker 2: One of the things they hammered into our heads as
34:16
Speaker 2: green berets is you're going to go into a lot
34:18
Speaker 2: of environments, and you're going to go to an environments
34:20
Speaker 2: potentially where you don't have the most firepower, you don't
34:23
Speaker 2: have the numbers. You work in a twelve man team,
34:25
Speaker 2: and you work by through and with the local population.
34:28
Speaker 2: You had better understand your operational environment. And we're living
34:33
Speaker 2: at a time right now we're trust and institutions is
34:36
Speaker 2: an all time low. And so what I tell the
34:38
Speaker 2: man is like, I get it. You're busy. You got
34:40
Speaker 2: a lot of things to do with your life. Your
34:42
Speaker 2: priority is taking care of your family, and that's what
34:44
Speaker 2: it should be. But insofar as you want to protect
34:48
Speaker 2: your country, to build it up into something that you
34:50
Speaker 2: can raise your kids and that your kids will be
34:51
Speaker 2: able to raise your grandkids in, well, then you better
34:54
Speaker 2: start understand your operational environment. And bitching on Twitter is
34:58
Speaker 2: not going to solve everything. Part of my language, but
35:01
Speaker 2: it just is it and getting mad at everybody because
35:05
Speaker 2: you don't get things as fast as you want. Well,
35:08
Speaker 2: when you do that, you don't look a lot different
35:10
Speaker 2: from the left that are constantly sending out there with
35:12
Speaker 2: their handout. You're just asking your hand out for something different.
35:16
Speaker 2: And I will see this all the time. Well, we
35:17
Speaker 2: elected Trump to do X, Y and Z. Okay, well
35:20
Speaker 2: Trump did that. Trump did that. Trump did that, well,
35:22
Speaker 2: not to my satisfaction. Okay, Well he's not a dictator, guys, right,
35:26
Speaker 2: regardless of what the left says, He's not a king.
35:29
Speaker 2: So he needs the legislature to do the thing you
35:31
Speaker 2: want done over there. He needs the judiciary to stop
35:33
Speaker 2: doing nationwide injunctions in order to everything you want over there. Right,
35:36
Speaker 2: he needs support from a governor to be able to
35:38
Speaker 2: do this thing over here. But if you don't understand
35:40
Speaker 2: how our system works, well then yeah, you're going to
35:42
Speaker 2: be constantly frustrating and think everything's an excuse. Now, the
35:45
Speaker 2: one thing I'm sympathetic to is that we have had
35:48
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have run for office that
35:49
Speaker 2: have talked a good game that essentially have been liars
35:52
Speaker 2: in weak and they don't fight. And so what I
35:54
Speaker 2: tell people is don't give up the frustration, don't keep fighting.
35:58
Speaker 2: Chin focus most on the things that you can change
36:00
Speaker 2: within your own life, within your own community. But then
36:03
Speaker 2: when you do have people that have consistently fought, that
36:08
Speaker 2: have been willing to take the slings in the arrows
36:10
Speaker 2: to do the unpopular things that you know were right,
36:13
Speaker 2: you need to give them a little bit of runway,
36:15
Speaker 2: and you need to give them a little bit of grace,
36:17
Speaker 2: because if you've abandoned them the first time, if you
36:19
Speaker 2: abandon them the first time that something doesn't go the
36:21
Speaker 2: way you want, or something doesn't work out the way
36:23
Speaker 2: that they had hoped for, predicted, or even worked for,
36:26
Speaker 2: then what you tell them is give up. I relay
36:30
Speaker 2: it this way. There were times where I took really
36:33
Speaker 2: hard votes. I took one vote that might have actually
36:35
Speaker 2: cost me a race, and somebody said, why did you
36:39
Speaker 2: do that? I said, because I think it was bad policy.
36:41
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but Nick your side, the people that would
36:44
Speaker 2: have agreed with you that it was bad policy didn't
36:47
Speaker 2: support you in that vote, and everybody else trashed you
36:51
Speaker 2: for it. You should have just taken the easy vote.
36:54
Speaker 2: You should have just voted with everybody else. You shouldn't
36:56
Speaker 2: have thrown up a ninety nine to one vote on something,
36:59
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but.
37:00
Speaker 1: It was wrong.
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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous, it was bad policy. This wasn't something
37:03
Speaker 2: worth to compromise on to save my own skin. And
37:07
Speaker 2: if it means I got to go up and make
37:08
Speaker 2: the argument to people, I will. But the thing is
37:11
Speaker 2: is that you do that enough times, you do that
37:13
Speaker 2: enough times, and what ends up happening is all of
37:15
Speaker 2: the weaklings that people really despise in Congress, they come
37:18
Speaker 2: up to you and they laugh. They're like, see, we
37:20
Speaker 2: told you, they're not going to have your back for
37:22
Speaker 2: standing strong on these issues. So if we want the
37:25
Speaker 2: sort of people, if we want sort of the people
37:26
Speaker 2: that are going to stand strong, then they've got to
37:29
Speaker 2: get your support when they do it, and they've got
37:32
Speaker 2: to get a little bit of grace and a little
37:33
Speaker 2: bit of room to maneuver. And then we also got
37:36
Speaker 2: to educate our own kids, because again, Congress is a
37:39
Speaker 2: reflection of the body politic. Thomas Soul said it best,
37:43
Speaker 2: he goes the fact that so many successful politicians are
37:46
Speaker 2: such shameless liars is not just a reflection on them,
37:49
Speaker 2: it's a reflection on us. Because when the electorate demands
37:52
Speaker 2: the impossible, only liars will satisfy.
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Speaker 1: Amazing it is Nickjfradis dot com. Go and check out
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Speaker 1: Nick get his book called The Man Book. You're in
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Speaker 1: love it. Allegedly he teaches you how to make the
38:04
Speaker 1: perfect stake as well as teaching me how to be
38:06
Speaker 1: a man as you grow up. I'm gonna make sure
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Speaker 1: that I check that out and go get my copy
38:09
Speaker 1: right now. Nick, I can't tell you how much I
38:11
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. It's been a long time coming.
38:13
Speaker 1: Everything that you say I agree with. When it comes
38:16
Speaker 1: to Trump, I just wish that he wouldn't like attack
38:19
Speaker 1: Riley Gains because she said I didn't like the picture.
38:21
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Take a breath, take a step.
38:23
Speaker 1: But this is who he is, like known. I've known
38:25
Speaker 1: this guy for fifty five years of my life, I think,
38:28
Speaker 1: and this is he's no different than he was when
38:30
Speaker 1: he was thirty six years old. So you kind of
38:32
Speaker 1: expect it. But at the same time you go, but man,
38:35
Speaker 1: I think he's doing a great job. Otherwise, I appreciate
38:37
Speaker 1: anything that you just said. We should probably do this
38:39
Speaker 1: again as we get closer to to the actual midterms,
38:42
Speaker 1: because I think people need to be educated by a
38:44
Speaker 1: couple of guys who aren't afraid to have a loud boys,
38:46
Speaker 1: to be masculine and tell the truth because a guy
38:48
Speaker 1: like James Tallerico is not unique. There are a lot
38:51
Speaker 1: of those people running for the midterms. And if we
38:53
Speaker 1: see the House and the Senate go over to the left,
38:56
Speaker 1: Trump's agenda's done in the future of our country gets
38:58
Speaker 1: them a lot darker. Can we do it again?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Would love to.
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Speaker 1: Brother. I appreciate your time today. Go and get his book.
39:04
Speaker 1: It is called The Man Book.
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Speaker 2: Nick.
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