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DLHS Hour 2 | Who is the Greatest Toxic Father Ever · The D.L. Hughley Show

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  Speaker 1: It is the Dal Hugley Show, your twenty twenty six edition.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to be tonight, Later on I'll be
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  Speaker 1: at the Mandelay Bay with the Aka. Then tomorrow I'll
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  Speaker 1: be at the River Casino in Philadelphia, and then of
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  Speaker 1: course Friday Saturday, I will be at Nate's Super Funny
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  Speaker 1: Comedy Club. When I think of a toxic fier, I
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  Speaker 1: think if somebody didn't add anything to it, that did
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  Speaker 1: more hurt than harm, more harm than good. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's true of Joe Jackson. I think he
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of good. I think he did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good. I think that some people might say
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  Speaker 1: Bill Cosby was a toxic dad, but I think he
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  Speaker 1: did a lot more good. I think, to me, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of toxic dad, I think Prian McKnight. I
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  Speaker 1: could I see that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Okay, so I googled what a toxic person is
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  Speaker 2: and what those traits are, always playing the victim, disrespecting boundaries,
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  Speaker 2: gas lighting, conditional support. Yeah, I'm going to say that
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  Speaker 2: someone who who's repeated behaviors calls emotional harm, distress, poor,
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  Speaker 2: drained people's energy. I don't say Joe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue with any of them.
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  Speaker 3: But ain't nobody got nothing on Marvin gay daddy. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: they don't get no more toxic than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah nobody. Well, well, plus Joe, Marvin's gay daddy was
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  Speaker 1: a good shot too. He wasn't like he didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to shoot at it.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't playing.
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  Speaker 1: He took target practice. He was ready to do what
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  Speaker 1: he did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jazmin's definition, I definitely. I mean Bill
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  Speaker 4: Cosby did a lot of bad things, but I I
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  Speaker 4: know he was a good dad. So if he used
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  Speaker 4: Jasmine's definition that she looked up, I don't think Bill
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  Speaker 4: Cosby falls into.
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  Speaker 1: That because you know his son, right, you went to
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  Speaker 1: school with him. Yeah, Simpson the toxic dad.
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  Speaker 2: I was even around his kids.
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  Speaker 1: All you have to do is make sure the person
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  Speaker 1: who would keep him next ain't there no more the
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  Speaker 1: next on the list. When you're the next on the
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  Speaker 1: emergency call list, then I think that's of course the
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  Speaker 1: greatest toxic dad ever. Junior is who do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Man, they got to be famous, right, No, you could
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  Speaker 3: know somebody.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't know him wild all about jam Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say that if you're measuring by today's standards.
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  Speaker 1: I think most of our fathers and the way they
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  Speaker 1: acted it, comported themselves, would probably be considered toxic in
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  Speaker 1: this environment. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe toxic right now, right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he's again.
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  Speaker 2: When I google famous real life toxic dads, at the
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  Speaker 2: top of the list is Joe Jackson, followed by Rob Schneider.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he's a really toxic dad.
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  Speaker 2: He really Macaulay Culkin's dad, and then uh, William doc
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  Speaker 2: Rockefeller Center.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then a lot of people say that Bobby
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  Speaker 3: Brown was a toxic dad based on what happened to him.
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  Speaker 1: That's his prerogative. He could do whatever, y'all saying something, yes, crazy,
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  Speaker 1: don't be cruel. I never thought that my father was
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  Speaker 1: toxic at all. I wrote a book about him called
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  Speaker 1: Charlie's Boy. I think that a toxic trait is emotional abuse.
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  Speaker 1: Would you say that to Genzi? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things when when in reading
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  Speaker 2: after they listed Joe Jackson's name, they said he was
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  Speaker 2: widely recognized for his strict, emotionally taxing and sometimes physically
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  Speaker 2: abusive parenting.
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  Speaker 1: But when you described growing up, would you say you
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  Speaker 1: were abuse who you Well, that's I wouldn't say. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say I was abused. I wouldn't either I was disciplined, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well not enough, but.
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  Speaker 3: I was my dad, it was my mom.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that toxicity, uh, like some people might
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  Speaker 1: say fifty has a toxic relationship with you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Because we're we're taking people now that are
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  Speaker 1: being judged by a modern standard. I would think that
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  Speaker 1: most men I knew who had fathers in their life,
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  Speaker 1: even there were strict and they were uh, they like
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  Speaker 1: coaches that tended to be that way, who were disciplinarians,
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  Speaker 1: who were harsh. So I think it's really harder for
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  Speaker 1: us to ascribe a level of toxicity. Like I would never,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind think of Joe Jackson as a toxic father.
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  Speaker 1: I just it just wouldn't. It wouldn't register to me right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the question would be what would his children say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would say whatever he told him to say
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  Speaker 1: and shut up. Well, because he's dead, so he still.
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  Speaker 3: A belt and getting shot at.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But if you listen to our audiences and they
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  Speaker 1: tell you about the ways that they the reason they
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  Speaker 1: are successful and the reason a lot of them would
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  Speaker 1: think that it was because of toxic behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think when you consider Joe Jackson's situation,
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  Speaker 2: if the story is to be true and trusted, right,
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  Speaker 2: your dad did things to you, but not when you
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  Speaker 2: were grown. Joe Jackson continued on even into their adulthood.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, like making them, like making them go on
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  Speaker 1: a tour. You can't, well you can't to me, you
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  Speaker 1: can't for his benefit. Yeah, well they're pseudo. Well you
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  Speaker 1: can't tell me that that somebody's toxic when you say
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  Speaker 1: you want to be something and he enables you to.
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  Speaker 2: Be I got you. But here's my thing. If I
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  Speaker 2: look at it from Michael's perspective, because it was Michael's father,
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  Speaker 2: not mine, And Michael, out of his own mouth, said
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  Speaker 2: that not only was his dad toxic, but he was abusive.
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  Speaker 2: So if he says it and he lived it, I
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  Speaker 2: have to go with him.
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  Speaker 1: But I know some of the Jackson's, the older brothers,
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  Speaker 1: didn't think it was toxic.
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  Speaker 3: He can talk to one parent. What about Gary Coleman's
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  Speaker 3: parents didn't didn't they steal all this money and all this.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff that ain't toxic.
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  Speaker 6: Something?
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  Speaker 2: You got to look at your definition of what toxic
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  Speaker 2: is at least talks.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, who is the most famous? That white man's
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  Speaker 1: lap and give me all the money.
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  Speaker 6: That's pretty toxic.
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  Speaker 1: That's Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you see that, miss drum. All right,
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  Speaker 1: who do you think is the most toxic day? Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Luther Vanjels has that song right
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  Speaker 1: to dance with my father again? Right yeah? And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know their relationship, but I would say that his
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  Speaker 1: father probably had suspicions about Luther, right but but but
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  Speaker 1: he was still warm to him, right yeah, which I
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  Speaker 1: would think I would think would be different, like I
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  Speaker 1: think his father would be different in that era of men.
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  Speaker 4: Would you say, well, that's probably why he didn't talk
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  Speaker 4: about his sexuality and and didn't plan on it until
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  Speaker 4: both of his parents had been deceased.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's get to the calls. Who
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  Speaker 1: do you think is the most toxic dad? We're going
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  Speaker 1: to vones.
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  Speaker 7: He did the right Dame, the Bargees Daddy. He was
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  Speaker 7: real copy and he was bis so and he was cruel,
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  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. They've been through some stuff,
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  Speaker 7: you know. I would go with the Barges Daddy, By
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  Speaker 7: the way.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Jermaine and Charlotte, North Carolina, and I think number
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  Speaker 8: one got to be Be Diddy, got to be Sean
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  Speaker 8: puppy Thombs. He got to be number one toxic father. No,
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  Speaker 8: no advanced out about it.
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  Speaker 5: Why is that?
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  Speaker 8: Well you to look at dynamics of how is the
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  Speaker 8: empire was ran and when his sons grew up or whatever.
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  Speaker 8: You know, he kind of much pour that onto them.
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  Speaker 8: You know, had them doing a little toxic you know
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  Speaker 8: thing itself that you know, ideas they got it from him.
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  Speaker 8: I mean that's basically it. I mean they got in
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  Speaker 8: trouble too now that he was the trouble that he has,
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  Speaker 8: but you know, all of that trickle down.
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  Speaker 6: To his boys.
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  Speaker 9: We are No, Joe Jackson is the most toxic father
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  Speaker 9: ever because Joe Joe, he was a great man, because
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  Speaker 9: all this stuff he did, but whooping Michael Asses and
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  Speaker 9: everybody else as it's trying to make sure they were perfectionists.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it worked out.
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  Speaker 10: But I got to give him credit for the most
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  Speaker 10: toxic father in the whole wild world because of because
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  Speaker 10: the what he did. But he was a great man though,
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  Speaker 10: we got to give him credit. He created a great legacy.
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  Speaker 6: About a toxic father. Yeah, everybody knows answer to that.
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  Speaker 6: As far as I'm misign his trump all have a
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  Speaker 6: good day for me.
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  Speaker 5: Unequivocally, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 11: His daddy the Barge, all the heinous and despicable things
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  Speaker 11: he did to the daughter, and not get the daughter,
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  Speaker 11: but the son's too. It's no wonder that a few
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  Speaker 11: of them that ended their lives tragically. As I said, unequivalentally,
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  Speaker 11: Daddy DeBarge.
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  Speaker 1: I would think a character cuture I watched. I watched
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  Speaker 1: the movie Fences, right, and Denzel's character in that August
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  Speaker 1: August wasn't uh you know, a book or play was
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  Speaker 1: more like the fathers I knew and respected.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And I wouldn't have said he was toxic, no,
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  Speaker 1: because he was there. Yeah, Because I mean when you
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  Speaker 1: when you see your daddy, that's that adds that takes
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  Speaker 1: you down or not at present, knocks off some of
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  Speaker 1: the toxicity. When you say, all right, we're going through
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  Speaker 1: the phones, who do you think is the most toxic
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  Speaker 1: dadd every.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you asked Peter Turner, I think it was
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  Speaker 5: Ike Ike was I was because you know that was
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  Speaker 5: that was her daddy.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, Yeah, let's throw Ike out there.
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  Speaker 12: Joseph Jackson, Yes, he was really he he was. First
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  Speaker 12: of all, he was a narcissist. He wanted everything his way.
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  Speaker 12: He did have some good qualities, but his toxicity overshadowed
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  Speaker 12: all of those things. He always had to be a
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  Speaker 12: part of everything his kids did. He just he ruled
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  Speaker 12: with a really hard hand and sometimes it was.
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  Speaker 8: Just over the top.
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  Speaker 12: He had just big toxic ways.
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  Speaker 10: The greatest toxic father, I would have to say Joe
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  Speaker 10: Jackson just his whole outfit.
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  Speaker 5: Man. He tried to, you know, take his will. He
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  Speaker 5: took his family to the top, and he tried to
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  Speaker 5: protect his family. So I'm looking at his toxic and overprotective.
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  Speaker 5: But I had to give it to Joe Jackson. Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump is the worst of all time.
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  Speaker 12: Five kids, three baby mamas, and then.
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  Speaker 8: Some Joe Jackson baby. So he would Mike till right
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