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Buster Murdaugh's New Chapter · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last days. Finally
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Speaker 1: some good news for the son of convicted killer former
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Speaker 1: lawyer Alex Murdogg. His son Buster, who attended his trial
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Speaker 1: faithfully every single day, marries his fiancee, Brooklyn White and
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Speaker 1: a South Carolina wedding four years after his mother and
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Speaker 1: brother were gunned down dead. I'm as he, Grace, this
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. The
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Speaker 1: only living son of convicted killer Alex Murdog has married
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Speaker 1: his longtime fiancee and a private, yet luxurious wedding in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. I recall distinctly sitting right behind Buster Murdog
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Speaker 1: as he sat through his dad's double murder trial in
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Speaker 1: the shooting deaths of wife Maggie and son Paul. Buster
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Speaker 1: thirty two and fiancee Brooklyn White tied the knot in
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Speaker 1: front of family and friends at a former hunting estate
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Speaker 1: in Beaufort, South Carolina. It's in a past riverside community
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Speaker 1: on Ladies Island. I wonder what mixed feelings he must
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Speaker 1: have had as he stood at the altar waiting for
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn to walk down the aisle without his father or
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Speaker 1: his brother standing in as best man and without seeing
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Speaker 1: his mother beaming on the front row. The wake of
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Speaker 1: pain left behind by Alex Murdock seemingly never ends what
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Speaker 1: happened that night at Murdog's hunting lodge.
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Speaker 2: Fitz News is reporting sources close to the investigation say
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Speaker 2: that physical forensic evidence directly ties Alex Murdad to the
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Speaker 2: double homicide. Fitz News sighting sources close to the investigation
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Speaker 2: claims Alex Murdaud is the only person identified as a
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Speaker 2: person of interest. On June seventh, twenty twenty one, Alex
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Speaker 2: Murdoch called nine one round ten oh seven pm to
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Speaker 2: report that he had found the bodies of his fifty
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Speaker 2: two year old wife, Maggie and twenty two year old
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Speaker 2: son Paul. Fitznews claims Maggie murdaught you was shot and
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Speaker 2: killed by a semi automatic rifle around the same time
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Speaker 2: as her son was killed.
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Speaker 1: With us an all star panel to make sense of
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Speaker 1: what we know right now. High profile lawyer out of
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Speaker 1: LA Troy Slayton, forensic psychologist, author of Criminal Behavior and
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Speaker 1: Where Law on Psychology, intersect Doctor Sherry Schwartz, Professor Forensics,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on
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Speaker 1: Amazon and star of a U hit series Bodybags, with
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan joining us, but straight out to Dave
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Speaker 1: Matt Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, Dave, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I need a forensics expert to
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Speaker 1: tell me there's gonna be evidence linking Alec Murdog to
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Speaker 1: the dead bodies of his wife and his son. And
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, Dave. We've talked about it several
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Speaker 1: times off air. You have him, Alec Murdog, then arranging
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Speaker 1: a hit on himself. Remember that when he's found bleeding
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Speaker 1: from the head out on a rural road. Nothing he
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Speaker 1: said made any sense about changing his tire, and then
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Speaker 1: he said some guys came along and took a shot
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Speaker 1: at him. Turns out his dope dealer was paid to
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Speaker 1: shoot him in the head. Now think about it. Think
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Speaker 1: about it, Dave Mack. This is just weeks after his
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Speaker 1: wife and son are shot in the head execution style. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I wonder who orchestrated that. So you're telling me, Dave Mack,
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Speaker 1: that there are reports not of just deduction such as
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Speaker 1: what I just did two and two eekals four, but
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Speaker 1: actual physical forensic evidence linking Alec Murdoch to the double murder.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: Here's what we've got.
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Speaker 2: At least one of the weapons used in the double
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Speaker 2: homicide of Maggie and Paul Murdach belonged to the Murdof family.
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Speaker 2: We've got deputies finding shell casings at the scene that
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Speaker 2: they're obviously matching to at least one of the guns,
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Speaker 2: but two different guns were supposedly used. One was a
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Speaker 2: semi automatic rifle. We've got agents on the scene that
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Speaker 2: are searching a river, the Salkahatchie River swampy area, approximately
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Speaker 2: two miles south of Mozelle, that are getting more evidence.
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Speaker 2: And we've got again this evidence that ties all of
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Speaker 2: this together. Maggie Murdaw's cell phone is found along the
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Speaker 2: rural South Carolina road just outside the family seventeen hundred
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Speaker 2: acre hunting lodge the day after the murder. All of
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Speaker 2: that put together is what we're dealing with in terms
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Speaker 2: of physical evidence.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying that from those items and whatever they've
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Speaker 1: dredged up out of the Sakahatchie, you're saying that it's
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Speaker 1: your belief on those items is the physical evidence they're
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Speaker 1: talking about. And not only that, not only that way,
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Speaker 1: what about a potential gunshot residue test they may have
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Speaker 1: done on Alex Murdoch at the time he found his
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Speaker 1: dead wife and son. And did you mention that they
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Speaker 1: towed the company vehicle that night and processed it?
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Speaker 2: Did you say that, Dave mack I am now that
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Speaker 2: they actually did impound It was a twenty twenty one
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Speaker 2: Chevy Suburban that was registered to the Murdall Law firm.
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Speaker 2: And all of this is being reported through Fitz News.
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Speaker 2: That's where we're getting this information. Nancy law enforcement on
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Speaker 2: the scene that night, collected all of this evidence that
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Speaker 2: we know how this works out from a balistic standpoint
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Speaker 2: to the residue test. The police are playing this so
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Speaker 2: close to the vest, but we're getting enough information to
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Speaker 2: be able to tie it together to see these links
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Speaker 2: are all pointing back to Alex Murdau.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I want you to take a listen to Alex
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Speaker 1: Murdoch's nine to one one call our cut twenty five.
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Speaker 5: One within their emergency tell me one forty seven, mosaille Road,
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Speaker 5: I think the police acade from my wife And okay,
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Speaker 5: you said forty one forty seven, Moti wrote analogin sir,
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Speaker 5: you said forty one forty seven mozel rode alogin yes, sir,
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Speaker 5: forty one forty three Road on the line.
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Speaker 6: Yes Thursday, on the line with the okayticut communication.
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Speaker 5: Colleton, I have an Alex Murdoch on the line. Call
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Speaker 5: it from forty one forty seven mos Roll.
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Speaker 6: He's advising that his wife.
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Speaker 1: Aunt child was shot.
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Speaker 5: Okay in sorry, whatly forty one forty seven Moselle Road.
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Speaker 5: I've been up to it now it's.
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Speaker 6: Bad, okay, okay, And are.
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Speaker 1: No mam okay?
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Speaker 6: Is that it's your wife and your son A wife
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Speaker 6: and my son.
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Speaker 5: No ground out at my.
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Speaker 1: Kennel, Jackie. Do they have the death penalty in South Carolina?
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they do. Okay. Troy Slayton, high
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Speaker 1: profile lawyer joining me out of la Hey. We tried
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Speaker 1: to give Alex Murdog the benefit of the doubt. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: you tried. But now that I know, as I suspected
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Speaker 1: long suspected. He is the one that finds the dead bodies.
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Speaker 1: He is the one that owns the residents where they're found.
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Speaker 1: He's the one uh looking at a big fat, juicy
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Speaker 1: divorce from a wife who is likely to cover during
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Speaker 1: her discovery process, her legal discovery process, that he has
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Speaker 1: been embezzling money from all of his clients and sniffing
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Speaker 1: it up his nose for years. It's all going to
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Speaker 1: come out in her divorce. And they are murdog guns.
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Speaker 1: We learned that on day one. A source told us
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Speaker 1: day one that at least one of the guns was
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Speaker 1: a murdog gun. All right, so what more do I
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Speaker 1: need to know for Pete's sake? Then he stages his
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Speaker 1: own suicide botched, I might add, and lies through his
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Speaker 1: teeth about it until we find out his doper friend
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Speaker 1: is the one that grazed his head. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: lying about everything. Remember even his lawyer came out and
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Speaker 1: actually said he had brain damage. He showed up in
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Speaker 1: court the next week. He didn't even have on does
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Speaker 1: he have on a band aid? That's some brain injury.
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton. I mean, what do you need to know?
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Speaker 1: This man is lied about everything, and he's the one
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Speaker 1: that faces a pecuniary Jane money Jane with the death
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Speaker 1: of his wife and son. And now we have Dave
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Speaker 1: Mack telling us that reports are Alex Murdoch is linked
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Speaker 1: forensically physical elevens. I'm talking about fingerprints DNA to the
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Speaker 1: double murders. And now when I listen to that nine
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Speaker 1: one one call, I mean I'm taking that with a
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Speaker 1: box assault Troy Layton.
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Speaker 3: Well, we're being told that the evidence is substantial, that
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Speaker 3: it's serious, but we don't know exactly what that physical
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Speaker 3: evidence connection is yet. To Alex Murdoch, what's interesting is
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Speaker 3: that a different gun was used in each one of
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Speaker 3: the murders at the time of that double homicide that
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Speaker 3: happened at the same time. Why would somebody, why would
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Speaker 3: one individual use two different guns on two people at
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Speaker 3: the same time. It doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 1: Well, it may not make sense, but does it make
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Speaker 1: sense to murder your wife and son? Does that make
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Speaker 1: sense to you? Shroy Slaton. Criminals do all sorts of
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Speaker 1: crazy things. It's not up to a prosecutor to lurk
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Speaker 1: around inside a killer's mind and figure out why.
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Speaker 3: But things have to make sense. And the problem that
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Speaker 3: the prosecutors have here is they could just confuse the jury.
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Speaker 3: They're charging him right now with fifty one counts. That
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Speaker 3: means fifty one separate crimes and fifty one sets of
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Speaker 3: elements that a jury would have to go through to
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Speaker 3: try and condict.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Don't cut it yet, Troy Slaton. The current charges relate
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Speaker 1: to what the fifty one counts you're referring to, refer.
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Speaker 3: To possible embezzlement and misappropriation of funds from his grandfather
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Speaker 3: and great grandfather and father's law firms that was set
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Speaker 3: up for one hundred years and clients.
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Speaker 1: And clients who are now finding out that he apparently,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac is there report he embezzle funds from a
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Speaker 1: client that was paraplegic and brain damaged.
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Speaker 3: Actually, he was a.
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Speaker 2: Young man who was death who was in a car
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Speaker 2: accident with his mother and another friend who he The
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Speaker 2: accident left him as a paraplegic and in a home,
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Speaker 2: and Murdau is alleged to have taken all of the
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Speaker 2: money over three hundred thousand dollars that was due for
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Speaker 2: the death paraplegic man's family, as well as the money
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Speaker 2: from his the man's mother and the other person in
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Speaker 2: the car, hundreds of thousands of dollars intended to go
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Speaker 2: to this family.
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Speaker 1: That was a little TMI, but I'll take it. You
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Speaker 1: can never know enough facts, Dave Mac. But what you
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Speaker 1: told me actually just made me feel a little nauseous.
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Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, the only remaining son of
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Speaker 1: convicted killer Alex Murdogg, has happiness. Buster, who endured many
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Speaker 1: many false claims that he was somehow involved in the
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Speaker 1: death of a young man in his community. Stephen Smith
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Speaker 1: has married fiancee Brooklyn White, a lawyer in South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: four years after the family double murder. The wedding was
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Speaker 1: reportedly beautiful, with fifty people attending. It looks as if
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Speaker 1: Buster Murdog's wife has chosen to take his surname on
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Speaker 1: social media. The exact date of the wedding and any
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Speaker 1: and all details were kept secret until the two officially married,
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Speaker 1: and what has been reported in a beautiful ceremony. Some
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Speaker 1: of the items we've learned about on the wedding register
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Speaker 1: a Blackstone griddle, a Yetti Tundra hard cooler, and a
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Speaker 1: Dyson Robot vacuum. The public's not really sure when the
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Speaker 1: two started dating, but it's believed they met when they
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Speaker 1: were both law students at University South Carolina Law School. Reportedly,
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn White was actually with Buster Murdoch when his father
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Speaker 1: called to tell him. Maggie and Paul had been killed.
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Speaker 1: As you recall, Murdon got two life sentences without parole
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Speaker 1: last year in the shootings. What happened direct physical evidence?
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Speaker 1: Direct evidence is like an eyewitness DNA fingerprinted. Okay. Circumstantial
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Speaker 1: evidence is you were at the scene of the crime.
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Speaker 1: You're the one that reported the murders. You're the one
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Speaker 1: that has a motive. Your glove was found there on
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Speaker 1: the scene. That doesn't a murder make So that's what
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Speaker 1: we know right now. And with that as a backdrop,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan and doctor Sherry Schwartz, I want you
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Speaker 1: to take to listen to more of Alex Murdog's nine
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Speaker 1: to one one call when he seemingly found his wife
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Speaker 1: and son Paul dead, shot dead behind his hunting lodge
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Speaker 1: with a Murdog gun. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: twenty six.
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Speaker 6: Okay, is he bringing it all?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 5: No one?
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Speaker 8: Okay, sell anyone in the area.
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Speaker 9: No, ma'am, No, ma'am.
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Speaker 8: That colors your house on the outside?
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Speaker 6: What color is your house on the outside?
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Speaker 5: What you can't see it from the road?
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Speaker 6: Okay?
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Speaker 8: Is it a house or mobile home?
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Speaker 6: It's the house? Okay?
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Speaker 8: What is your name?
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Speaker 1: My name for Alex Murdoch.
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Speaker 6: Okay, did you hear anything or did you come home
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Speaker 6: and find them?
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Speaker 5: I've been gone.
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Speaker 6: I just came back.
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Speaker 5: No, ma'am.
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Speaker 8: We're getting somebody out there to you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, when you listen to that, knowing what we now know?
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Speaker 1: What what I'd like to know? And I asked this
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Speaker 1: on day one to you, Joseph Scott, Morgan death investigator,
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Speaker 1: a forensics expert. How could they pluck what time? What's
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Speaker 1: my time window for the time of death? And that's
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Speaker 1: so important because Alex Murdock said that he was at
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Speaker 1: the hospital seeing his sick father, who passed away a
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Speaker 1: few days later. I need to know what time he
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Speaker 1: was there, the drive time between the hospital and the
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Speaker 1: hunting lodge, and the time of death. How do I
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Speaker 1: know Maggie and Paul weren't shot three hours before he
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Speaker 1: went to the hospital. How do I know they weren't
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Speaker 1: shot just before he called nine to one one, placing
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Speaker 1: him virtually at the scene of the crime at the
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Speaker 1: time the murders occurred. The time of death is crucial,
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Speaker 1: It's critical. What about it? Joe Scott?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we might you might not know. We might not know,
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Speaker 4: but slid does when they showed up at that scene, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that they did, Carolina Law Enforcement Division,
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Speaker 1: go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they began to do a post mortem assessment of
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Speaker 4: the bodies. And simply what that means is they're going
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Speaker 4: to check for all those things we look for, Nancy,
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Speaker 4: the rigidity of the body, how stiff it is relative
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Speaker 4: to riger mortis, post mortem lividity, which is the settling
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Speaker 4: of blood. And also also they're going to check the
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Speaker 4: body temperature. Now, the reason those things are important is
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Speaker 4: that we can kind of theoretically tom stamp each one
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Speaker 4: of those events. So the further for instance, with algamortis
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Speaker 4: or the body temperature changes for the first hour after death,
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Speaker 4: our bodies generally lose one point five to two degrees
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Speaker 4: of our total core body temperature in that first hour.
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Speaker 4: After that it bleeds off one degree one degree for
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Speaker 4: twelve hours. All right, So if you think that the
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Speaker 4: body may have been down for I don't know, we're
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Speaker 4: looking maybe the body when they do the body core
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Speaker 4: temperature is maybe at ninety degrees. Then we could suppose
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Speaker 4: that perhaps these bodies had been down anywhere from seven
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Speaker 4: to eight hours at that point in time.
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Speaker 1: And Joe Scott when the algorithm you're using vary based
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Speaker 1: on the ambiant temperature. The temperature it does, it does.
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Speaker 4: And you know, the way I explained it is that
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Speaker 4: after that twelfth hour, Nancy, we become an inanimate object.
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Speaker 4: All of the energy we generated has burned off at
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Speaker 4: that point in time.
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Speaker 1: Riger mortars rigor mortars, which means stiffening of the limbs,
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Speaker 1: the libra mortise, which is the settling of the blood.
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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, if you die
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Speaker 1: on your back, your blood is no longer pumping through
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Speaker 1: your body and it will all settle down to the
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Speaker 1: lowest common denominator, like a glass of water, It all
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Speaker 1: goes to the bottom of the glass. Same thing. So
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Speaker 1: mortis mortis body temperature and what else.
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Speaker 4: Well, well, when we you know, obviously when they get
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Speaker 4: back to the more to do the autopsy, they're going
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Speaker 4: to look at stomach content too, and that's a measurable
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Speaker 4: that that moves at a measurable rate from our you know,
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Speaker 4: relative to our digestion. So if they ate at six
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Speaker 4: o'clock that night, and depended upon what they ate, you
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Speaker 4: can expect, you know, perhaps the stomach to have been full,
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Speaker 4: all right, because at that at that point in time,
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Speaker 4: parstolis is going to stop. The food's going to stop
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Speaker 4: moving through the body digestion. Yeah, and so it's gonna
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Speaker 4: be using medical terms. Nobody else on this panel is
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Speaker 4: a medical doctor. Please, regular people talk. Yeah, Well, if
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Speaker 4: we albody impressed.
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Speaker 1: Me, Okay, you don't have to keep trying to impress.
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Speaker 4: What I do want to impress though, is this this
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Speaker 4: idea of the settling of the blood Nancy, Because if
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Speaker 4: somebody monkeyed around with those bodies and move the bodies
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Speaker 4: around during the night.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that well, I got to write that down, Troy Slayton.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to circle back to you with that. If
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Speaker 1: the scene was staged, if the bodies had been moved,
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Speaker 1: he's down the water, I'm telling you. Because a random
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Speaker 1: killer would not think to drag the bodies around or
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Speaker 1: pose them in a certain way. That has to be
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Speaker 1: a known killer. Okay, hold on, God, that was it?
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Speaker 1: Stage to go ahead, Sorry, just scot.
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Speaker 4: That's all right. So you know, post mortem lividity actually
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Speaker 4: starts sooner than any alreadys appreciable, sooner than any of
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Speaker 4: these other things. So if it's say, for instance, the
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Speaker 4: young Mardall was laying face down. Okay, post mortem lividity
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Speaker 4: would have begun to be appreciable within twenty minutes of death, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: The question is is that after you get outside of
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Speaker 4: that four hour window and you've moved the body, it
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Speaker 4: no longer migrates at that time.
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Speaker 1: About coagulation of blood, if the blood had already dried
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Speaker 1: or not dried on the wounds, what would that tell you,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that, again, that's going to be environmentally dependent,
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Speaker 4: bear metric, the relative humidity and all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 4: It's different being outdoors, so you would have to have
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Speaker 4: all of that information in order to computate that.
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Speaker 1: So that's going to be less reliable. So you're thinking
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Speaker 1: that the physical evidence, what do you think the physical
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Speaker 1: evidence is? Could there be a fingerprint on the shell
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Speaker 1: casing on the guns?
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Speaker 4: You know what I think it is. Here's my big
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Speaker 4: reveal on this. I think this might have something to
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Speaker 4: do with blood stains. And the reason I think that
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Speaker 4: is that remember what Dave said, the young one, he
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Speaker 4: took two shotgun wounds, Nancy. So if you've got an individual,
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Speaker 4: the perpetrator, who is in a dominant position with a
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Speaker 4: twelve gay shotgun. I don't know if that's the gauge
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Speaker 4: or not. And they're standing over this individual shot in
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Speaker 4: the chest and the head. Guess what happens. You get
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Speaker 4: a dynamic event with blood staining. The higher the velocity,
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Speaker 4: the tinier the blood stain. Okay, we're talking about very fine,
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Speaker 4: all right, And that's going to happen with a high
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Speaker 4: velocity gunshot wound. So just suppose, just suppose, for instance,
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Speaker 4: he's kneeling over the body and he clutches his dear
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Speaker 4: son to his chest. That's going to be transferred blood.
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Speaker 4: That's going to look different to the people from the
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Speaker 4: people which slid when they see him and they take
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Speaker 4: those pictures of him at the at the lock up
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Speaker 4: or wherever they took him afterwards, and they take his clothes,
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Speaker 4: which they did, you're gonna have that fine bloods thing.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry Schwartz, forensic psychologist, How often have we seen
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Speaker 1: the killer state that I tried to resuscitate them. I
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Speaker 1: clutched them, I held them to my chest, I hugged them.
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Speaker 1: That's how I got the blood transfer.
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Speaker 8: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 9: That that would probably be the natural place for him
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Speaker 9: to go. Something else that he says, not once, but
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Speaker 9: twice on that nine to one one call. That's very
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Speaker 9: striking to me, is I've been up to it now
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Speaker 9: it's bad to me. That sounds like a confession.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry Sports, let me ask you a question. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're the forensic psychologist. You're the one that wrote Criminal
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Speaker 1: Behavior and where law and psychology intersect. What do you
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Speaker 1: make of a little noticed fact that Maggie Murdoch's phone
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Speaker 1: was taken from the scene and discarded out on the street.
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Speaker 1: It's a good ways I've been there from the home.
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Speaker 1: There's a really long driveway out to the road, and
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Speaker 1: you can't see the Murdog hunting Lodge as they call
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Speaker 1: it from the street. What do you make of the
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Speaker 1: fact that the killer took her phone number one and
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Speaker 1: then threw it away out on the street. I find
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Speaker 1: that to be very significant behaviorally speaking.
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Speaker 9: I agree that is significant behaviorally speaking. Now, he may
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Speaker 9: try to say, or the defense may try to say, well,
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Speaker 9: that was somebody running away from the crime scene with
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Speaker 9: this particular evidence, but then why not take other things? Really,
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Speaker 9: what it suggests is possibly what Joe Scott Morgan is saying,
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Speaker 9: that it might be somewhat of a staged crime scene
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Speaker 9: or you know, happened hours earlier, and so somebody took
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Speaker 9: the time to try to discard some of this.
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Speaker 1: Evidence that was actually mean that said that. And I'm
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Speaker 1: wondering if to me it would make more sense if,
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Speaker 1: in fact, he murdered his wife and son he did
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Speaker 1: it before the hospital visit, because how could he orchestrate
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Speaker 1: them both being there unless he planned it? And what
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Speaker 1: would be the significance of taking Maggie's cell phone unless
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Speaker 1: he wanted to erase something off the cell phone? And
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Speaker 1: exactly because this guy, doctor Sherry Schwartz, is so messed
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Speaker 1: up on drugs. I mean he's now, as you heard
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Speaker 1: defense attorney Troy Slayton state, he's got fifty one embezzlement
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Speaker 1: type counts against him right now. He's being investigated regarding
24:37
Speaker 1: the deaths of multiple people, including a young man that
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Speaker 1: lived nearby, Stephen Smith, a housekeeper Gloria Sadderfield. His son Paul,
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Speaker 1: was involved in the death of a young girl, Mallory
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Speaker 1: Beach on the family boat. Who knows if this guy
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Speaker 1: had the wherewithal to remove fingerprints. And when you're talking
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Speaker 1: about blo blood transfer, a blood transfer to be explained
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Speaker 1: away by the defendant, saying I held him, I hug them.
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Speaker 1: I tried to perform CPR, but as Joe Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: was talking about blood evidence, blood spatter means you were
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Speaker 1: near the body at the time of the murder. Crime
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace in the last days. Finally happiness
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Speaker 1: for Buster Murdoch, who endured the murder of his mother
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Speaker 1: and brother, then sat every single day through the trial
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Speaker 1: of his father, disgraced attorney Alex Murdoch, remaining loyal to
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Speaker 1: the end to his dad. Finally, happiness for this young
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Speaker 1: man who was endured so much and he got the catch.
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Speaker 1: His wife, Brooklyn, a native of Rockkill, South Carolina, went
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Speaker 1: to college in Alabama, got her degree there in political science.
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Speaker 1: She graduated law school University of South Carolina sometime between
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one. She then took a
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Speaker 1: position at a respected law firm in Hilton Head twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one. Buster Murdock had been a law student at
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Speaker 1: USC as well. He left under a cloud, but after
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Speaker 1: the murders of his mom and brother, who knows if
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Speaker 1: he can ever bring himself to go back to law school.
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Speaker 1: He had stayed out of the public eye since his
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Speaker 1: dad was convicted for the two murders. I recalled during
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Speaker 1: the trial Brooklyn White comforting Buster as best she could
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Speaker 1: in the courtroom as the evidence poured from the witness stand.
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Speaker 1: What happened in that courtroom?
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Speaker 8: Okay?
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Speaker 6: What is her name?
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Speaker 5: A college Maggie and Paul Maggie?
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Speaker 6: Is her name?
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Speaker 9: Jeff, ma'am?
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Speaker 5: Okay, and please hurry.
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Speaker 8: We're getting somebody out there to you, me asking you
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Speaker 8: these questions.
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Speaker 6: Don't floating down? Okay?
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Speaker 8: Are you sure they're not breathing?
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Speaker 6: Is he moving? Now? Your son? I know you said
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Speaker 6: that she was shocked, but what about your son?
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Speaker 5: Nobody? They're not even one?
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Speaker 6: Always move? What is your telephone number?
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Speaker 2: Cama?
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Speaker 5: Not particularly really, no, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. To Troy Slayton, we have to take into
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Speaker 1: account as we listen to this nine one one call. Now,
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Speaker 1: Alexi Murdog didn't He also called nine one one after
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Speaker 1: he was shot in the head and put up much
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Speaker 1: the same story that an unknown assailant had driven by
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Speaker 1: him and out of nowhere shot him in the head
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Speaker 1: and whoops, he lived? What about that? Is anybody making
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Speaker 1: that parallel?
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Speaker 3: We're trying to say that this is an Academy Award
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Speaker 3: winning performance.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, I'm saying it's been it was rehearsed, okay, because
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Speaker 1: didn't he wait, didn't he call nine one one when
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Speaker 1: he was shot on the side of the road Joe.
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Speaker 4: Scott, Yes, he did, Nancy, he sure did. And so
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Speaker 4: this to me, as an investigator, I'm looking at a
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Speaker 4: pattern developing. He got away with the first time, potentially,
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Speaker 4: and now he thinks he's going to get away with
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Speaker 4: it again when he's feigning this gunshot wound to the head.
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Speaker 4: That's some unknown perpetrator.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Troy Slayton. Can't you just see a prosecutor
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Speaker 1: playing all these nine one one calls, especially the one
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Speaker 1: on the side of the road where the dope dealer
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Speaker 1: confesses reportedly that Murnod hired him to shoot him, and
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Speaker 1: here Murdod crying and carrying on on the phone just
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Speaker 1: like he's doing here.
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Speaker 3: And as a defense attorney, we would say there is
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Speaker 3: no playbook for the horror that a.
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Speaker 1: Come up with something new. Oh, I want to beat
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Speaker 1: my head against the wall.
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Speaker 3: You say that every time, would express once they find
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Speaker 3: some sort of horrific situation like his wife and child
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Speaker 3: being killed.
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Speaker 1: But he sounds the same way in his own nimal
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Speaker 1: one call when he stays just shooting.
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Speaker 7: On himself, same thing, all that breathing and the gulping
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Speaker 7: and the whining, same exact thing.
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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the staging of the scene.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna lie, it's something you want to talk about.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this.
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Speaker 3: So if there's physical evidence that bodies were moved from
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Speaker 3: the place where the murders happened so that way they
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Speaker 3: look like something else, then yes. And if somehow Alex
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Speaker 3: Murdoch is connected to that movement of the bodies, that
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Speaker 3: would be really damning evidence for him that big I
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Speaker 3: would be.
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Speaker 1: A big whoopsie for you to explain the next time
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Speaker 1: we talk about this, wouldn't it. I'm less unless.
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Speaker 3: Moving the body in order to perform some sort of
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Speaker 3: life saving measure, moving the body in order to perform
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Speaker 3: CPR or to try and resuscitate them.
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Speaker 1: See, that's why you make all that money, because you
30:35
Speaker 1: just spun that out of thin air like rumpel Stilskin.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you just spun it into gold. Amazing, amazing
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Speaker 1: what you just did right there, Guys, with all the
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Speaker 1: knowledge we now are amassing. I'm really interested in these
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Speaker 1: nine to one one calls. Take a listen to Alex
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Speaker 1: Murdog in our cut twenty eight.
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Speaker 8: Have you ever since you've got on the phone with me,
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Speaker 8: I have multiple people coming out there to you.
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Speaker 6: Okay. I don't want you to touch them at all. Okay,
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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know if you've already touched them,
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Speaker 6: and I don't.
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Speaker 8: I don't want you to touch them just in case
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Speaker 8: they can get any kind of evidence.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm all in such and time to get to
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Speaker 4: see if they were breathing.
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Speaker 8: Okay, Well, I just don't want you to move anything,
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Speaker 8: just in case they can get any kind of evidence.
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Speaker 6: Okay, Oh.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm gonna call.
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Speaker 6: I need to call some of my family. Okay, Well,
31:49
Speaker 6: will there be a favor for me whenever you see
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Speaker 6: the officer or the Meddix, because.
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Speaker 8: They're they're all coming to you.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, okay, but we have them come in. Turn on
31:58
Speaker 6: the flashes on your vehicle so they can see you. Okay,
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Speaker 6: you got the flashes on for me?
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Speaker 1: Wow? He sure calms down pretty quickly, did you hear that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I got them on. I'm calling my family. I call
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Speaker 1: my lawyer and calling my dope dealer. So okay, let
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Speaker 1: me go back to you. Dave Mack joining us Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, tell me again the report
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Speaker 1: that there is direct physical evidence linking him Alex Murdog
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Speaker 1: to the double murders.
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Speaker 2: At least one of the weapons used in the double
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Speaker 2: homicide belonged to the murdav family. We know that law
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Speaker 2: enforcement impounded a twenty twenty one Chevy Suburban registered to
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Speaker 2: the Murdad law firm from the scene. We know that
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Speaker 2: deputies found shellcasing at the scene. This is a report
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Speaker 2: from fitz News. SLED agents requested the Sheriff's deputy search
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Speaker 2: the area near the crime seemper video surveillance systems on
32:58
Speaker 2: the morning after the murged. Don't know what they found there.
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Speaker 2: On June sixteenth, SLED agents, we're collecting evidence in a
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Speaker 2: swampy area near the Skahatchie River, about two miles south
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Speaker 2: of Mozelle and Maggie. Murdaw's cell phone was found along
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Speaker 2: a rural South Carolina road just outside the family seventeen
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Speaker 2: hundred acre hunting lodge the day after the murder.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Donna Sherry Schwartz, forensic psychologist, joining us
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Speaker 1: not to Sherry, how do you analyze what you heard
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Speaker 1: on the NAIM one call?
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, there's so many things, right, I mean,
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Speaker 9: he's he starts off, he's very emotional, he's crying, he's
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Speaker 9: gasping for air, and then, as you pointed out at
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Speaker 9: the end, it's very calm. A matter of fact, it's
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Speaker 9: very striking to me that in the midst of this
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Speaker 9: horror and waiting for first responders, he needs to get
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Speaker 9: off the phone to contact family. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 9: have you given up totally?
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Speaker 6: You know, who are you calling?
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Speaker 9: What family do you need to contact?
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Speaker 6: And why at this moment?
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Speaker 9: You know, how are you gathering your.
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Speaker 6: Thoughts in that way?
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Speaker 9: And he also says, you know that he did touch
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Speaker 9: them to see if they were breathing, but he doesn't
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Speaker 9: mention anything about trying to render aid.
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Speaker 1: Well wishers including crime stories wish Alex Murdoch's son Buster
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Speaker 1: Murdoch and his new wife happiness as they try to
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Speaker 1: forge a new life. His father, Alex Murdoch, behind bars
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Speaker 1: for two life without parole sentences, and the murders of
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Speaker 1: wife Maggie and son Paul. Alex Murdoch now appealing those convictions.
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds.
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Speaker 7: Goodbye friend,