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Ep 7: Tell Me You Love Me · Bald Enough to Say It

• Barry: So that's what I do. I take the pen out to lower the bed down. This is like eleven. Jen: my god. Barry gets crushed. Shaun: You don't want to look at cheeks anyway, so it doesn't even matter to you. That's true. Yeah. Barry: Nine Jen: Hey, you don't know, okay? We've never had that kind of discussion. I might like cheeks too. Barry: Becca does enjoy I Jen: I was so sad because like on family night, you're going to talk to him like that in front of these people that they're just now meeting. No, no, he did not. Barry: Bro, talk about accountability. Bro, what? He needed to hear that. No, his dad did the right thing, bro. Yes Jen: I Shaun: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to episode seven of Bald Enough to Say It. If you are new here, make sure that you do go down and you like and subscribe this video. If you are returning, make sure that you have already subscribed. If you haven't, check us out www.baldenoughtosayit.com. You've got all of our socials there. The YouTube is there. Apple Podcasts, Spotify. All of the good stuff. Plus you can get some of our merch as well. Show that support. But if you have not been here before, something that we like to do to get started is just kind of check up on each other. See how the week has been since the last time that we have had the opportunity to talk. So Jen, what's been going on with you, ma'am? How you feeling? How's your week been? Jen: It's been a long week. I feel so very tired. lot of personal things, house things happening. We took a mini little trip to Grapevine to the Great Wolf Lodge for the kiddo. Yes we did. I got my wolf ears. They don't really go over the... Are you? Shaun: Okay. Barry: Really? How did they like it? That's funny. We're going there in two weeks. Yep. Next Friday we'll go there. we've been already. We're this is our second trip. Well we're not going to the one you went to. We're going to Houston. There's a new one in Houston. So But how did the kiddos like it? Did y'all complete the Mag Jag quest? Shaun: Ooh, nice. got the ears. Dang. Jen: You'll love it. Shaun: What are the chances? Jen: yeah, you'll love it. It's a great time. Shaun: Nah, put those back on. Jen: where are going? okay, yep. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was a good time. Magi Quest, I should have brought my wand because best believe I was doing it too. It was great. The only one that did was Lincoln and he was so committed to this. Like it does to finish it because there's so much and you're going up and down all the floors. It's insane. Yes. So you have to do these tasks, Sean. It's this thing where you get to become basically a wizard. You get a wand and you go Barry: I believe that. Bro, it takes commitment to finish it. It really does. There's a lot. my gosh. It's insanity. Shaun: you Barry: Y'all you get to pick your one too. Shaun: you Jen: throughout the hotel, you get to go around and do these quests. So it tells you, go find these three runes or these three symbols throughout the hotel. Come back and bring them back to me. Yes. Yes. It's honestly so cute and so fun. And Lincoln was committed like the very next day. So we got there the very next day. He woke me up at 628 in the morning and said, Mom, are you ready for our magical adventure? Barry: And there's like riddles as a p kind of a part of it. Yeah, it's all kinds of craziness. Shaun: Hmm. Barry: heck to the no bo. Shaun: no. Jen: And I was like, my God. I mean, committed. He gave up swim time for this thing. He, yes, literally that's what he said. He was like, you told me I had to wait until the sky was bright. I was like, it's not bright. It's barely, barely light. Yeah, it sure does. But it was a really good time. Barry: He was committed for real, bro. At six twenty. Soon as the s the sun was up, he was out, ready to go. Shaun: locked in. Barry: Dude, you can't say that on in the summertime. That's shoot. Starts coming up early. Shaun: So the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, right? Cause you're big into like Harry Potter and stuff. So is that kind of like his version? Jen: Very. We are very much Barry: yeah. Jen: a nerdy family. We love all the magical things. We love Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones. We are nerds, and that's fine with me. Barry: Hey. It's a good time. Shaun: There you go. It's each their own, right? Jen: to each their own, but they had a great time. It was a really fun time. Exhausting, but fun. Yeah. Yeah. Shaun: That's what's up. Still good to get away and take a break from Barry: It is Shaun: the whole rigmarole of everything and the kids get to enjoy the summer too. making those memories. That's what it's about. Right. How was yours, Barry? Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Barry: Especially when you can perform magic. Did y'all do like the whole ninety nine dollar add on stuff they been getting you in? Yeah, they get you, bro. Dude. Jen: for sure. We did all the things. That's how they get you. They get you with a nice stay for like not a bad price and everything's included. Then you get there and it's like, you could do this and you could do this. So we had to get the wolf pass that had all the cool things. I mean, I really do think it's worth it, but it is. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's all there and you do all the things. Barry: It really isn't that bad, but then all the add ons That's all we get, the wolf pass, yep. Yeah. I mean, if you're gonna do it all, it you do save a little bit. But Shaun: Isn't that the part of going to a resort though? Is to do like all of the little things? Barry: Yeah. Did y'all do the food plan? We don't eat on site. We used did you? How was the food? Jen: We did. We did do the food plan. I think it's, it was all right. I feel like the buff... Well, the breakfast buffets smacked. Like those are so good. The dinner buffet, I don't know if it was worth it. It was kind of whack. And then we, the second day we did the restaurant that's there and it was, we were thinking the restaurant was going to be more expensive than the buffet and the buffet was actually more expensive and the food was way better at the restaurant. Barry: It's like cafeteria food, I mean. Was it pretty legit? Okay. Hmm. Whack. Mm. yeah, they do. Good to know. Jen: So next time we go back, we'll definitely just stick to the restaurant. Yeah, for sure. For sure. But yeah. Barry: Hit up the restaurant. Yeah. That's dope. Yeah, we're interested to see what Houston's like. I'm hoping it's a little newer for sure. I mean it's a shorter trip. That was one of the reasons we chose it. So Yeah, saves you about two hours. Hmm. No. Ten can be its own beast, but not usually till you get into Houston. So yeah. Should be alright though. Jen: Yeah, definitely let us know because maybe we could hit up that one next time. Yes, it is a much shorter trip because getting back we hit Austin traffic right around 530. Yeah, exactly. It can. Shaun: Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to deal with 35 going to Houston. That's true. Yeah, we're pretty close to it. Nice. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Barry: now my weekend started off with a little bit of a I'd say a scare. So funny enough, like I don't know, way back when we recorded, I think it was the first or second episode. Remember how we like lost power at right at the end? And that night our bed got stuck. Well, Friday night, my daughter comes down at like nine forty five. She's like, Dad, the bed won't go down. I'm like, but the powers I was like, Well, I don't know. Jen: What happened? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. no. no. Barry: So I go up like thinking that I like it was like like the bed was broken. Cause yo, I tried everything. it c has like little nine volts that you're supposed to put in the little power pack if it doesn't have power and that's supposed to give you enough to like lower nothing, bro. So I I'd literally mess with it for like forty five minutes. I'm probably close to an hour. And like it's just not gonna work. Like I couldn't figure it out. So Jen: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Barry: I look at the little arm mechanism on there and I'm like, I could just take the pen out. So that's what I do. I take the pen out to lower the bed down. This is like eleven. Now luckily I was smart. I thought ahead. I was like Becca or I was like you and our oldest go get on each side and I'm gonna hold it while I take the pen out and I need y'all just to make sure it doesn't fall up. Jen: my god. Barry gets crushed. I'm gonna do see where this is going. Okay. Shaun: Hehehehehe Jen: Hold it. Barry: So I was smart enough. But then so then of course I'm like laying in bed like, dude, what's wrong? Like I'm have to get somebody out here to fix the bed. So then I'm like, all right, I need to test the the outlets. Like for some reason there's not a power getting there. And Becca came to bed like at something and she was like saying her fan was I was like, great, now it's like electrical problems, like in the walls. So then I'm like, maybe the bed's not broken, but you know, go to bed since we can sleep. Jen: no. no. Barry: So then get up early in the morning, yo. I check every outlet in the house. Like there's gotta be a G F C. I popped or something 'cause the breakers were all good. I checked those on Friday night once Becca came and woke me up like at one in the morning. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Yeah. You Barry: So it's like ten the next morning and I'm still trying to figure it out, but I can't I'm like I'm gonna have to call electrician. Like I have no clue. Don't know. Like I get my multimeter out, like it literally no power to the to it to anything, just the two outlets on the wall where our bed is and that's where it's plugged into. And I'm like I can't figure it out. So I like pack all my stuff up, start walking out the room and I look at the wall. There's a switch. Jen: Are you serious? The whole time? Right? That's so funny. Shaun: You don't even know your own house, Barry: Bro, we had we had a mini a year. And I was like, my god. I forgot they had power to switch to run the outlet so they could turn the lamp on and off. So yeah, that was my Friday and Saturday morning. All of that. I'm so glad. they would have no, they would have still charged me whatever just to show up. I'm so glad. It was funny. Shaun: God, that's hilarious. Jen: Good. Shaun: You almost paid for an electric- electricians are not cheap. Jen: That was, yeah, thank goodness you noticed before that. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Could you imagine how embarrassing that would have been though if you did hire an electrician and they had to come in and just be like Shaun: Bro, my god. Barry: I would have come in completely embarrassed. Cause I'm a pretty handy dude. And I'm just walking out the bedroom. But I walked by that switch like twenty times trying to figure this out. Well, like I was outside for looking at GFCI plugs, like trying to figure out what the hell happened, man. But it was simple. Sometimes you just gotta take a step back. Now I just need to take a step back. Like I literally just like right there in front of me. Jen: that would have been so good. Shaun: All right. Jen: We all have our moments, Yeah. Shaun: First of all, problems, bro. Talk about it. Barry: No, I mean for real. Jen: First world problems. Barry: For real. Shaun: My bed that likes to go up and down and massages and does all the crazy stuff wasn't working. Like, man. Barry: I mean, we don't got all the fancy fancy. It's just up and downer. But yes, completely first world problems. But then that was how the weekend started. Saturday was pretty chill. Jen behind your back. Me and Sean made plans, but Sean, he's like, We can't do it to Jen. No. No, we were just joking about going to the river on Saturday. But Jen: and down. too funny. Shaun: That's crazy. Nah. Jen: Guys. Shaun: We're gonna go, yeah. Jen: this Saturday? but you didn't, right? See, even Mother Nature knew y'all were doing some shady shit without me and was like, hell nah, go sit back down. Barry: No, this past Saturday we were talking about it, but then the weather the weather was yeah. Shaun: No, this past Saturday. Yeah. The weather turned. Yeah. Barry: That's there you go. No. Shaun: Nah, whatever. You were going doing your own fun stuff. Why can't we have fun too? Yeah, you're... Barry: You are on a magi quests. Jen: Yeah, I was doing fun stuff with the family, not without you guys. Shaun: You don't want to look at cheeks anyway, so it doesn't even matter to you. That's true. Yeah. That's true. It's a beautiful form. Barry: Nine Jen: Hey, you don't know, okay? We've never had that kind of discussion. I might like cheeks too. Barry: Becca does enjoy I was gonna say Becca jo enjoys looking at women the woman form as well, so I wouldn't wouldn't surprise me too much. Women are beautiful. That is true. I would agree. Yeah. I think most people can. Yeah. But no, it didn't happen. I mean, I'll guess you'll tell us here in a sec. I know what Sean was one of his missions for the weekend was. But that's good. Sunday night. Jen: Yeah, women are beautiful. All right. I can appreciate a nice canvas. Shaun: Mm-hmm, Canvas. I play this word. Jen: You Shaun: Yeah. yeah, one of my missions for the weekend. Luckily that got worked out, yeah. Jen: yeah. Barry: My okay, so a little bit of backstory. I have a 14 year old, right? She's going growing into a young woman and wanting to express herself. Well, she's all about ear piercings. I as a 16 year old, I mean I'm she probably will eventually. But I as a 16-year-old kid, my mom took me and got my tongue pierced because that was something I wanted when I was underage. Jen: Hmm. Shaun: you Jen: Ooh. She went like a whole... Shaun: Yeah. Barry: And she allowed it, so I was cool with the piercing. Becca was a little more against it. But I was like, dude, if it's if it doesn't turn out well, you just take it out and it grows back. It's I mean, we waste the money, but she really wanted it and another parent failure. I haven't paid her allowance probably like all year long. So she's like, Dad, you haven't paid me, so this is what I want. And I was like, Check it off. Let's we'll call it square. I'll pay for the piercing. Jen: How interesting. This is you paying up. You'd probably save some pennies here or there. Shaun: Alright. Barry: no, I probably didn't, but it's all good. But she went and got a Helix piercing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Top of the year. Well, she wanted both, and you can't get both at the same time because it's super like you can really mess it up easily because the cartilage doesn't have a lot of blood flow so it doesn't heal that fast. So they're like, it's a nine to twelve months recovery, like till you're fully healed. Jen: that's this one, right? Or no? Mm-hmm. Shaun: you Jen: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: Jeez. Jen: Dang. Barry: Yeah. So they were like you have to keep one ear that you can sleep on. So she was a little upset about that. But then she also got a kinda got upset that sh she was like, I can't get it 'cause then I can't wear it for sports. I like, dude, by the time sports roll around, like you can wear a a clear plastic thing that they won't even and just tape it. It'll be alright, like she got all in her emotions a little bit, but then it all worked out. So Jen: Yeah, without messing up the other one. something. Shaun: Yeah. It's awesome. Barry: She went through it, she took it, yeah. She got her little little I what is it, iodide iodized blue stud. So Yeah. But yeah, full on needle and everything went through here. It's fun to watch. I was like, dang, I did that with like I did that with my tongue. It was crazy. But yeah. Jen: Does she like it? okay. How cute. Shaun: White-eyes blue. Sounds fancy. Jen: That's so fun. Mm-hmm. With your tongue? That's wild. Yeah, no. Mm-mm. But do you still have the tongue piercing barrier or you let it close up? Shaun: your tongue. Man, I want to get my ears pierced again. I loved it. Barry: Actually it is close. I tried to like see if it was still it lasted a long time without having any like piercing or in it. Like probably within the last ten years I probably could still get like a toothpick through it, but it's no longer able. I could probably force some through it, but it would bleed, I bet. Jen: But also... Shout out Shaun: Hmm. Barry: Yeah, they let me express myself in all the ways I Shaun: gosh. Barry: wanted to express myself for real. And the ways they didn't even know, so you know. You know, I mean that was before that, so they didn't even know. It was fine. That was water under the bridge by then. Jen: That's so funny. Shaun: And you pay them back by still in their car and going on late night rides with your friends. Jen: and go late night rides with Ray. She knows now. Shaun: Gosh. So would you get your tongue pierced again? Barry: yeah. I don't have a problem with it. It it was fun to play with. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: It didn't hurt. Barry: it feels like biting your tongue, that's or at least that's how I remember it. Just a quick like pinch. And then it feels weird to have s something through it. What'd you say, Sean? Nah. Nah. Nah, none of that. I would probably not do anything that like you could see on my face. I do have my ears pierced and those are still open. I could still get a hearing in. Jen: Okay. Mm-hmm. Shaun: I can see you with a lip piercing. I can see you with a lip piercing. Like a stud going through your lip or something like that. I can see you with that. Jen: Yeah. Shaun: Hmm. Jen: You don't want an eyebrow. Shaun: man. Barry: Drunk nights Becca gets me to put her earrings on. No, I'm joking. Shaun: No you're not. He would definitely do it. Jen: So when we're trying to get a little crazy. Barry: I'm not. I probably would. But nah. Yeah, I do a tongue piercing again. But Jen: That's too funny. Shaun: Alright, cool. What are we gonna do with him? Probably be a few months, but we're gonna go, we're gonna get your... Yeah, we're gonna get your tongue pierced. Jen: So, pedicure, then piercings. Barry: crazy. Becca had a nose piercing twice. She took it out and put it back in. Not like in the same she got a pierced two separate times. I think same nostril too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: Really? Dang. Jen: The same, yeah, the same thing. Shaun: I can see that. I can see her with the nose piercing. Why not? Jen: Yeah, I can see it here with that nose ring. You don't like it? Barry: I'm not a big fan. Jen: Why? Barry: I don't think just nose piercing in general, I don't know. I'm not a big fan. I guess I'm not a big fan of facial piercings. Shaun: So you can express yourself, but she can't express hers. Jen: Interesting. Shaun: gotcha. Barry: I don't mind ears. I mean, if you can't see it exactly, then it doesn't bother me. Jen: has to be internal facial hair. You just can't see it. Yeah. He likes piercings Shaun: you Jen: as long as it can't be seen. So nipples are up next for him. I don't know. Barry: I don't mind ear piercings. I mean, no, not for me. No. Shaun: Not for me. man, you never know what might happen, dog. Barry: Yeah. I'm good. Jen: Yeah, don't knock it till you try it, I don't know. Barry: Mm, I'm pretty sure I know that it will not happen. I mean I definitely feel that in most things in life, Jen, for sure. Don't knock it to try, but I don't that's not something I want to try. So Shaun: Yeah, drunk nights. You never know. . Jen: Don't knock it till you try it. I guess. Shaun: Man, that's what's up. Barry: And yeah, that kinda rounds out my weekend. I play golf Sunday too, so Shaun: Nice. Jen: Have Shaun: Well, I my week was I don't even honestly remember my week at this point. I don't know what I did or what I didn't do or anything like that. I know there's been a lot of craziness happening in my in my own life, which can't really talk about that right now, but that'll come up at some other point. But yeah, Barry started to allude to my weekend, something that happened this weekend, or I guess let me give the backstory of this. I bought a house a couple of years ago and Jen: Sean. You Yeah. Shaun: It's a new build. The landscape that they put into the house, the tree, died very quickly. Incredibly disappointing, I guess is the word. But to add insult to injury, my HOA started charging me fees because the tree was dead. I'm like, didn't even, it's not even my tree. Like didn't even ask for this. It's just part of the landscaping package. So y'all put it in here. Freaking ended up giving me a dead tree, but whatever. Jen: Mm-hmm. Aww. Mm-hmm. I didn't put it there. Yeah. Barry: Dude, I hate HOAs, bro. Jen: Mm-mm. Barry: I remember that thing. It was sad in your garage when I when I saw it at some point. Yeah, I remember that. It and well that's how weak it was in the ground, bro. It was weak. Said you ain't gonna charge me no more. Shaun: Dude, I ripped it up by my bare hands. That's how pissed off I was. It was weak. I just went out there and just ripped it up with my bare hands. was like, y'all are Jen: He got that third fee and he said this. Shaun: getting, like, y'all are getting on my nerves with this. So all of that happened. And then last year I was like, all right, whatever, I'm going to go buy some new trees. So I got one for the front yard and one for the backyard. The one in the backyard is doing great. But the one in the front yard, which was a Jen: Yay. Barry: Same. Shaun: beautiful crepe myrtle ended up dying. Barry: Is it the same spot that the other one died? Shaun: Yeah, so the same spot the other one died, but it got treated like the spot was treated. They treated everything that was there. They said that nothing looked out of place. It looked like it was fine. Crate mortals are supposed to be extremely, I guess, strong or versatile. Yeah. And he even mentioned that at one point they were considered invasive because they grow so well. And so they learned that the roots don't interrupt like structures. But Jen: weather tolerant. Barry: Like resilient. Shaun: It ended up dying. So this past weekend, that's what I went. I have been trying to get in touch with them. I'm like texting them, calling them like, Hey, my tree is dead. I need somebody to come and check it out, make sure that everything like get replaced. They would text me for a little bit. I send them pictures. They're like, okay, cool. Never hear anything back. That happened like three times. I'm like, you know what? I'm going up there because it's almost been a year and y'all aren't about to say that, Hey, you mass you passed your date or anything like that. Jen: Mm-hmm. Barry: you missed your window Jen: He said, my middle name's Karen, so let's go. Barry: for real, bro. Shaun: Exactly. Yeah, I'm like, no, I'm going to sit here in the office until you all figure this out. So I went up there and they were like, yeah, OK, like we see it. What we're going to do is we're going to send our arborist out there so he can take a look at it. Right. Exactly. I mean, this is a pretty well-known nursery. I'm not going to throw anything out there because I don't know, but well-known nursery. They're like, you're going to send our arborist out there. He can take a look at it. But in the meantime, you can go ahead and pick out a new tree. So I went tree shopping. Jen: you Barry: Ooh, fancy, y'all got a arborist? Hm, that's good. Shaun: picked out a new tree. Hopefully the arborist is gonna come out here within the week or next week or something like that. And then once he comes out and confirms that the tree is dead, I guess, I mean, it is dead. I don't know what else you want from me. But once he confirms it, then they'll replace it. Dude, so I sent the pictures. Right? Because, yeah. Jen: the button. Barry: I mean I'm sure the pictures show that it's dead, right? Jen: But also, can he tell you why these trees keep dying? Yeah. Yeah. Barry: That's what that's my thing. If it's the same spot they keep dying and that's supposed to be a super like resilient, easy tree to grow. Shaun: Yeah, which is crazy because the one in the backyard is great. Like it's growing very well. Like everything is good with it. Yeah. And ACE runs around back there playing with it all the time. And that one's still doing well, but... Barry: Hm. There has to be something in the ground. Jen: flourishing. Barry: Mm. Yeah, that's he's getting fertilized. That's why you're getting ace out there dropping them things, bro. Shaun: Probably yeah, yeah, they're dropping on it, but I Don't know so we'll see hopefully he comes out pretty soon and the tree can get delivered and planted because I am over not having some sort of Block for the Sun coming into my living room in the very early morning So hopefully that'll work out pretty soon, but we'll see It's it's pretty good. It's a Barry: Mm-hmm. How big a tree is it? Jen: problems. Shaun: maybe like nine feet tall or so, like eight and a half, nine feet tall, something like that. It's got some pretty good, like I guess a canopy has got a pretty good canopy on it too. So it'll, it'll give a good amount of like size to it. That spring is killing me dog. You're good. Yeah. Y'all just heard chin spring. Nah, leave it in there. Leave it in. That's crazy. Barry: dang. Okay. Jen: Mm-hmm. That was my bad. I hid it. We'll mute me. No, no they won't because we'll mute it later. Barry: Super Spring. Super Spring. Y'all just heard Jin's superpower. Shaun: But yeah, so that was the bulk of my weekend is getting that taken care of, which was part of the reason why we couldn't go and see Cheeks 2 because... Barry: He was trying to be a responsible homeowner. Shaun: The weather was turning, Jen: it's not like we couldn't go to Shaun: I'm trying to be a responsible homeowner. Jen: the river and hang out. It's we couldn't go see Cheeks. Shaun: Yeah, it has nothing. I don't really care about the river. Once I found out that you can just sit there and you don't have to float the river and there's cheeks everywhere. Come on, why not? Yeah, there'll be nothing there. Lies. I don't know why y'all are lying to me about this. Barry: It's like that's Sean's only motivation, I think, straight up for real. Watch. Jen: It is his only motivation. and just watch cheeks go by. Barry: Just sit there and watch but watch when we go, then everybody gonna have their cheeks covered up. Sean's gonna be all disappointed. Never doing it again. Jen: Mm-hmm. You're never coming back. Barry: I mean I don't know, bro. Shaun: Just trying to get me out there to, I mean, trying to lure me out there in the water. I'm just saying, I never know. Barry: No, I Jen: Mm-hmm. Barry: Telling you Shedabond or the river, bro, you're gonna see some. No? Not a water park guy? It's the world's best water park, bro. Shaun: I ain't going to Schlitterbahn. That ain't Mm-mm. Doc, there's pee. There's gotta be pee everywhere. Yeah, no, I'm not doing that. At least in the river, it's flowing water and it's all of that stuff. Jen: We're going to Schlitterbun, it's the most fun. Barry: a hundred percent. Jen: for sure. Barry: It's sterile, bro. It's sterile. Jen: So they say, but even at like Great Wolf this past weekend, was like, this is so gross. Barry: I don't I would not recommend drinking the water, but definitely I mean, I'm a I don't put my head underwater, so I guess whatever. Jen: Hmm. Shaun: Get out of the water and immediately need to take a shower. I don't even want to get in my car afterwards. Because I'll have pee. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. It's nasty. Shaun: We'll see though. I don't know. But yeah, that was the bulk of my week. Hopefully it'll be switching up pretty soon and we'll get some good news and we'll see what else is gonna be happening. Jen: Hmm. cross fingers. Save the tree please. Shaun: Save the tree or save this future tree because I'm not buying any more trees after that. Trees are stupid expensive. Yeah. Yeah. Jen: At least this one. The other one's, I don't know, it's out of our control. Just save this one. Barry: Then it's just gonna be a empty yard, bro. Yeah, they especially if you get nine footers, man. Jen: Yeah, if you get like already grown trees that you're just like transplanting somewhere. Yeah. Shaun: Mm-hmm. And that's what I want to do because I don't want to wait 15 years for a freaking tree to grow. I will definitely be gone by then. Like, I don't plan on being here but for a few more years. So, I mean, if we can get that taken care of, then cool. But I don't know. But yeah, that is mine. One of the biggest things about this weekend, World Cup, we had the quarterfinals. So much stuff happened, a bunch of controversy. Barry: Yeah. Well you might be gone by then too. Yeah. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Barry: Yeah. Jen: So much. I feel like the games are Barry: Dude. Jen: like just nonstop and like so much is happening. I'm like, slow down. There were some controversial games. That's for sure. I'm just want to point out too. Well, how do we want to flow through this? Really? Do we want to go to our bracket first and kind of update or do we just want to dive right in? Okay. Shaun: Right. Yeah. Barry: There were some good games, man. Yeah. Shaun: What kind of controversial game is what you mean? I Barry: I mean it's quick. No, we can go. Let's Shaun: take a look at it. It's terrible. Barry: share real quick. it's already updated. Jen: Let's go update our bracket. It is not that bad. Shaun: I'm telling y'all y'all suck at picking soccer teams. I'm just gonna throw that out there. Barry: Mmm. I suck at picking most sports, bro. That's why I don't we talked about it. Jen: no. Barry: That's why I don't bet. Hmm. Yeah. Jen: All of my picks have been pretty spot on except for Portugal, but that was just, you really holding out. Shaun: Okay. Okay. man. Barry: All right. So w up top here was actually Norway and England. That is actually one of the controversial games of the weekend. Tell us about it, Jen. You wouldn't have picked Norway England over Norway. I don't think you would have picked England over Norway. Jen: that is. But I will say I picked England at the beginning, okay? Hmm? I don't know. I mean, I want to say yes, I would have because England is so just historically better. So I feel like I would have went England, but you never know at this point because you're always going be like, just the next day one. But I also picked England to pick or beat Mexico and y'all are like, no, Mexico is going to get it. And then who won? Okay. Shaun: Don't hide inside us. Barry: Mm, mm, mm. Mm-hmm. Shaun: Hmm. Barry: That's why you can't say that, Jen. You can't say, Well, that's what it been England. Shaun: Well, because we wanted to believe in Mexico, that's why. And they were playing in Mexico City. Jen: Okay, well, I'm just saying Barry: We were tr yes. They had only lost there twice ever. So we were going with historically statistical numbers, Jim. Jen: don't say that I wouldn't pick England when I did in the first place. Shaun: Yeah. talking about you. Jen: In this, in this pool, not historically over World Cups of past, you were looking at this little. Shaun: Okay. Barry: Yes. Okay, Portugal. Shaun: Whatever. Barry: All I'm gonna do is say okay, Portugal. You should be. 'Cause they probably shouldn't even made a made a pass Croatia, like you said. Jen: Listen, I'm still upset about it, all right? I will cry, Barry. I will. I didn't say that. I just said that the last disallowed goal should probably have been allowed and then gone into extra time. I didn't say they should have lost. I still think they should have won, but they could have won an extra time without so much controversy. Barry: Mm. Okay. Mm. Hindsight. Hindsight is twenty twenty, I guess, huh? Yep. Jen: is all I said. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Shaun: Right? Jen: But yes, very controversial games. Barry: Speaking of the the seismic chains of the ball, the England and Norway. Jen: Which have you seen their like explanations and stuff like that? Barry: Bruh, I don't trust FIFA ever anymore. They literally have told us one thing and what my eyes see completely say another. So I I don't believe it. I don't care what you say is in the ball. Jen: No, I feel like it's- Shaun: Ha ha. Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was going to be my biggest question. What do you think of VAR in general? Especially because this has been so horribly. But I think it's in general, really. Like even through some of the championships and the Premier League and stuff like that, I feel like it's so inconsistent. And I'm not even a huge soccer. Oops. I'm not even a huge soccer fan. I hit the thing. I don't know if it made noise. So for those that are like Kenny, Barry: It has been applied horribly in this World Cup. Horribly. I I think it is I think Shaun: Mm-hmm. Jen: I'm sure it's infuriating sometimes because it truly is. When do they want to look at it? When do they not care? When do they want to say it did something? When did this not? Shaun: Yeah. Barry: I was gonna say that's the problem with soccer rules is they're very subjective. And these refs yes. And they get it wrong, unfortunately. Like Jen: very like the it's very much in the ref's hands for sure mm-hmm Shaun: you Well, even after VAR, it still goes back to the revs to confirm it on the field. Yeah, so it almost doesn't even make sense for them to do VAR at that point because they're just going to go with whatever they want on the field. Jen: Mm-hmm. Make a decision. Mm-hmm. Make a decision for it. Barry: Mm-hmm. No. No. I feel like checking for Jen: Yeah. Barry: offsides. I feel like that one's probably the e best one 'cause it's technology. It and I don't know. I say that 'cause I don't believe the microchip that they say is registering seismic changes. Cause it registered when it touched the dude's hair but it clips a damn wire and it falls straight down and there's no seismic activity. Like what are we talking about? Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. hair. Especially because they're like, well, there wasn't any activity. You could have pulled that picture from anywhere. Why am I supposed to believe that when I'm seeing it hit it with my eyes? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Barry: Bro, it doesn't matter. Like, I literally watched the ball drop straight down. It changed direction and rotation. That was my argument against the whole hair thing. It didn't do that. And here we see it change direction, obviously, and then rotation changes. It wasn't like the ball like went up and wind knocked it straight down. No. It changed direction in air. Like what it what it like, what are we really trying to be convinced of? It's insane. Jen: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It literally went, Yeah. But I will say, what do you think? What are you, what's your opinion? Do you think if that would have been, that goal would have been disallowed, you still think that Norway would have pulled through and won it or you think... Barry: I mean, if that was the only goal that got into to extra, why would I think anything different? Jen: Hmm. Barry: They didn't score until ninety second minute an extra time to win. Yeah. Jen: And then Bellingham pulled it out for him. mean, really. Barry: That's what I'm saying. That that only that goal that happened as a result of the ball being altered in flight was what tied the game for the remainder of the game. So Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Did you see that Holland's dad like posted a bunch of stuff on social media? Like that they, the ref stole it and stuff like that. Yeah. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Barry: No. Yeah, I know me. I don't be watching socials, man. But no, I mean, and that's the problem. People have a right to be upset. And now I know they say that the ref said he didn't see it, but again, this is where V A R, if you're wanting to use it the right way, if somebody tells you that and you have a person who can actually watch the video and see that as a VAR referee, then they should call that down and say, you know what? We shouldn't have disallowed the goal. Jen: Yeah, 100%. Mm-hmm. And if you are actually using it, Mm-hmm. Yeah. But also, think about how many views they have on this soccer game, how many cameras they have going, how many angles. And for every single one I've seen, it's the same view. Exactly. So why are we not getting a closer view? Or why are we not being shown something? You know somebody can zoom into that. Barry: Dude, you can see it. It looks like it hits the damn wire. It's crazy. Well and they can take a back a goal. They took Shaun: feel like this is the same conversation Barry: back a Shaun: though. Barry: goal against Egypt. They literally took it back because they went back and saw a foul, which wasn't even a foul. That's what I like. No, there was no foul. So it's crazy. Like it is and this is the only time ever in the history of the World Cup that the top four ranked teams have made it. Tell me there ain't no I know people are like, What's the script? I don't think it's a script, but they can pull to get teams to win. Jen: Okay. It wasn't a foul! That was gonna be one of my biggest things. Like... I mean... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Shaun: I but I don't know. Barry: If they gonna tell these reps who needs to come out on top. Jen: I will say all four or five of the refs for that game were Argentinian. For the... Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. Barry: Ooh the the conspiracy deepens. Shaun: I think it is a conspiracy though. Because if you think about it, this is the same conversation across sports in general. Yeah, it happens in football, it happens in basketball, baseball, all of those different things. They get the call wrong. I think there's so much attention on the World Cup is what it is. Barry: No, all sports, bro. I'm just messing. But no. Yeah. But this has just been a lot in one tournament to see. Well that's true too, but Jen: Well, exactly. I feel like there's always... Barry: to get it wrong five times that have really altered games that's a little much and mm-hmm. Like in their game altering calls. Jen: Yeah, exactly. It's the amount that it's been happening. So like if you get one or two, Shaun: bad luck. Jen: yeah, you're playing a World Cup. It's in high intensity. You make a wrong call, whatever. But when it's so consistently blatant, poor decision making, contradictory decision making, exactly like we picked it for this one, but we didn't pick it up for this one, but they're almost like Shaun: Mm-hmm. Barry: Yeah. Bad. Bad. Uh-huh. To whatever y'all are saying the technology's supposed to show. Jen: exactly the same type of thing happening. It's very inconsistent. that's where it, that I think that's what's making people so angry and heated about it, which is because the FIFA president has never come out and said, or not the FIFA president of the referees. Like he's in charge of them, has never spoken about any controversies or anything. This is the first time he's ever done it, but it's because it's so hyped up right now. Barry: Mm. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Barry: Like come out and mm. Jen: because it's so bad. Like it's so, yeah, it's so inconsistent that you have to recognize why people are upset. Yes, why people are upset. Yeah. Yeah. If you feel like you have to say something about it, something's happening. Barry: It was a game altering play too, man. Yep. That there's a problem. Yeah, there's a problem. Y'all are messing it up and getting it wrong. So people have the right to be upset. Now, is that gonna change anything? Yeah, Shaun: Yeah. Barry: but it ain't gonna change. True. Shaun: I mean, that's part of being a fan though. I think that like if you're a fan of the sport and a fan of teams and things or clubs and things like that, like you're going to be upset at those types of calls. Like if you think about the amount of calls that happen over the course of a match and then thinking about it over the course of the entire tournament, like there are a lot of calls that are right. Jen: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: But when you do have those calls that are wrong and they are so blatant, like people are going to be up in arms about it. So I think that it's, one of those things like just as being an official or a ref or anything like that, like it's, it's never going to be, you can't win in that job, honestly. Yeah. But try to get the call right. Like if you're going to use technology, do your best to get the call right. Yeah. Jen: locked in. Barry: Yeah, for sure. No no, it's not gonna be perfect. No. Neither way. Jen: No, yeah, I 100 % feel, but exactly, yeah. Barry: I mean the fact that you have video exactly. Just do your best to get it right. Jen: Yeah. Barry: And then like you can't sit here and tell us that what we don't see didn't happen. I guess that's the crazy thing in it all too. Like I get the subjectivity and missing calls like like we talked about it on on episode two of Josh or three, whatever that was, but I mean it's it is gonna happen, but if we have the technology to make it not happen, then use the technology to make it not happen. Like it Jen: Yes. Mm-hmm. Shaun: Hmm. Jen: But that's what I mean. and use it consistently. Barry: It's just and I I feel like the NBA refs do a pretty good job. Like they overturn calls that are b I mean, they get they get it better than this. They get it better than this, but I'll give credit for that. No. They get it better than this. No. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Yeah. Shaun: I don't know about that. I don't know. Jen: Sean's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's how bad it is, Sean, with this one, that he's saying that for them. Like, they do better than these guys. Barry: No, they get a way better than this. Like I'll give them credit for that comparatively. NFL or But I feel like NBA refs do decently. But nah, it was it was still a really good game. Like to have this kind of put a tarnish on it kind of sucks for real. Because it was a really good game. Shaun: That's fair. Jen: Mmm. Shaun: you Jen: Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Yeah, I was. Shaun: So in the semis, we've got England and Argentina. Jen: It's going to be a good one. Barry: Yep. It's I mean, that's like a historic classic, bro. That was what's his name? The Hand of God goal. Shaun: What are you all thinking there? Jen: But I will say I said it like four episodes ago when we were talking about why I didn't like Argentina or why I liked Ronaldo better than Messi because I feel like Argentina and I said it then, roll it back. I said it then that they get extra help from the refs and you cannot see their last three games and not say that they've gotten help from the refs in their decisions. You just can't. Shaun: you Very care to comment on that. Barry: I mean I agree with the Egypt game. I don't know about the other ones, but I agree with the Egypt game. Jen: Hmm. Okay. Hmm. But also that's, they're getting help from the refs and they're still barely winning their games as reigning world champs. So they don't. Barry: They are. They yeah. They don't look as strong as they should. I give you that. I would agree. Shaun: All right, so who are y'all picking? England or Argentina? Jen: I want to go England. do think Argentina is going to win it because they're going to get some help. They're going to get some crazy calls and it's going to keep the controversy going because people are locked into it. But I'm going to say England. Shaun: Okay. So you know, Barry, who you got? You're sticking with Argentina. I figured as much. All right. Well, on the other side of the bracket, there is France and Spain. Espana. Jen: Come on Bellingham, let's go. Whatever. Barry: I'm gonna stick with Argentina. Yep. Jen: I think France. do think it's going to be a really good game though because Spain has been playing really well. Yeah, they've been playing really well, better than I anticipated. But I do still think France has just got a monster team and I think Mbappe is going to take them. Barry: Spain has turned it on. Yeah, they have. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: Dude. They're really good. That's why I picked them overall. 'Cause yeah, Mbappe and Damale and all all those dudes, bro, they're good. Shaun: Alright, so still taking France overall to win the World Cup. Okay, so who wins Constellation? At that point it would basically be England and Spain. Barry: Mm. Yep. I'd still give it to them. Jen: I still think so, Barry: England and Spain. Ooh, that would be I I would I would tip it to Spain just because they're the defending Euro champs. That would be the only reason I would tip to them. But I could see it going either way. I feel like England has definitely gotten better as the tournament's gone, especially the knockout stages. But I just yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if England beats Argentina. Jen: That would be so cool, honestly. I wouldn't be mad at it. probably. Yeah, I agree. Shaun: Okay. Jen: Mm-hmm. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: 'Cause like I said, Argentina's definitely not looked as strong as they should. What I would expect. Shaun: No. Jen: If the refs go into call affair game, I think England. But I'm just saying it now so we can roll the tape back later and be like, she said it. I'm just covering all my bases. Sure am. Shaun: you Barry: I'm gonna if I lose his cause is rigged, that's what Jen's saying. If I lose his cousin's rig, that's what Jen's saying, right? Shaun: She's like, I'm just covering bases right now. All right. So at this point, we've got France winning the World Cup and or y'all have France winning the World Cup. And then all our package did. I don't know about that. I'm just here so I don't get fined. And then you've got you've got you were taking Spain, right? And the constellation. OK. Jen: He said, let me take my name out of this. No, we are a package deal, Sean. Your opinion too. Barry: You said it last episode, Sean. We win and lose as as a group, as a unit. Mm. Jen: That's right. Barry: I would say Spain. Yeah. But look where we are. There's a lot of red on this board, so don't take my word for it. Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: So France winning, Spain. That's what I'm saying. This is on y'all. I told you at the beginning, I don't know anything about soccer, so I'm trusting you. I'm glad that I didn't put any kind of money on this bracket at all because I wouldn't be pissed. Oh, man. Well, nice. So World Cup is in the works. We are down to the nitty gritty at this point. Just a few games left. Yeah. Jen: Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Barry: Please don't. I hope nobody did. Sorry, y'all. If you thought that you were gonna win with this, never do it ever again. Jen: If this is a testament to future things, we are never betting. Barry: It'll be over on Sunday is the final match. Sunday Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Barry: will be the final. Shaun: Some other really big sports happened over this weekend too. I don't know. Do y'all watch tennis at all? Any of the majors or anything Barry: Hm. What's up, y'all? If you like what you've heard and seen so far, don't forget to like us and subscribe. Hit that button on whatever you're listening or watching on. Also, don't forget to follow us on those socials at Bald EnoughToSay It on Instagram, TikTok, X, and Facebook. Appreciate y'all. Peace. Shaun: like that? Yeah, I watched some of the majors. I watched some of Wimbledon. I like watching tennis at times like when they have like Roland Garros and Wimbledon and the US Open and Australian Open and all that kind of stuff. So it was fun. Women's doubles, men's doubles, and then the finals for singles too. Barry: I saw who won. Jen: I haven't. I do. Shaun: So those are really fun. There's a lot of really good talent and tenants right now. So that'll be exciting. Barry: say defending champ defended his crown. Shaun: Yeah, Center. Yeah, he's a beast, man. So really good hands there. I want to say, no, not France. I don't know. I think he's like France or somewhere in Europe. don't know. Jannik Center. Maybe Sweden, Spain, Italy. Yeah, I don't know. But Hell of a player. Barry: Center. What country is he from? Speedan. Hmm. Shaun: The men's doubles, that was really fun to watch too. Like it's always nice when you can see that they respect each other. And I don't think you get that in a lot of sports. It's like, you're almost like out there for blood, but in tennis it's like, okay, like we respect each other. We're going to go out here and we're going to play our hardest because we respect you. You want to make sure that we do the best. So that's why it's really cool to see. But also UFC. Barry: Mm, I appreciate that. Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Barry: Yeah. For sure. Shaun: A lot of people really upset about Conor McGregor. Man. See, I am, but I didn't for this just because I knew, like, this is the first time that he was gonna be fighting in years. So there's no way he's gonna come out of retirement and just dust it off like nothing ever happened. Barry: Bro, I'm so glad I never pay money for them things. Jen: Exactly. I think that every time. Thank goodness I am not a betting kind of person. So how much did he? Mm-hmm. Barry: He dusted it off all right, Mo. Shaun: Yeah, so we'll see what happens. Apparently he is getting ready after the surgery. He's going to get prepared to fight the final fight of his contract. I don't know that they said it specifically what it was. Yeah, but he did already have the surgery. think he already had the surgery. But yeah, it was like what, 10 or 15 seconds or something like that. Yeah. Kick, kick, boom, he's out. Barry: What was the official did he blow his knee or what? Did they say like what the diagnosis was? It looked nasty. Hmm. Sixteen seconds in, bo. Jen: You Literally. Barry: Didn't even get two strokes in the game, bro. Jen: some of the most expensive Shaun: Nah. Right? Ridiculous. But I mean, that's what it is with combat sports. Like you never really know because something like that could happen. I mean, that's what sports in general, but especially combat sports like that. Yeah, health is always luck. So I don't know. We'll see. There's some really cool stuff going on right now outside of the World Cup. We've got preseason that's happening too. Yeah. You are some of it. Jen: 15 seconds some people ever had. Barry: For real. Jen: Mm-hmm. Barry: Although I was gonna say that's luck, man. That's all sport for real. Yep. Jen: Yeah. Barry: Be soon enough. Yeah, I've been watching some of the preseason games. I'm actually kinda liking some of the young Celtics talent, bro. They look pretty good. Shaun: Okay. my God, of course. Of course we went straight to the Celtics. Nah, I think the future of basketball looks really good too. Exactly. That's all I care about. Yeah, some really good games, some good youth. This was a heck of a draft class. So I think that that's going to really show up in this season. Hopefully they get the playing time in the regular season too. Jen: You said I got one team and one team I care about. Barry: No, some good games. Yeah, hopefully. I mean, I feel like a lot of teams need some young energy, man, so Shaun: Yeah, a lot of them do. I mean, the Lakers are still showing out. They're going out there like pulling anybody that they can for their team. They sign. I see a new signing for the Lakers like every day, it seems like. So who knows? Yeah. Still waiting for the GOAT to make his decision. He's still trying to decide what he's going to do, where he's going to go. Which hopefully is Miami. I'm not going to be upset if he comes back to Miami. I think it'd be great. Jen: Hmm. Barry: Just quantity, huh? Get as much as they can. This guy. This guy. He's starting to get hope. He said he wasn't. Now I'm gonna start sending you all the things that I see now, Sean, that I know you got it. Shaun: I know, I I wasn't gonna get hooked. But he keeps delaying it, I feel like if he knew where he wanted to go, it is. I get it now. I get it. Like in the beginning, I didn't get it. Barry: This is why it gets annoying, bro. This is why it gets annoying. I mean, but you say that now if he chooses Miami, you can be like, What are you talking about? what annoying. I'm so happy. What did we what did we it was great. He had to take the time to thoroughly make a great decision. Yeah, I get it. No, it's all good. It's a lot. It is a lot. I I stopped looking at my phone for any announcements now. Shaun: Yeah, it's fine. He had to take the time to make the right decision. Yes, exactly. So I don't know. We'll see where he decides that he wants to go. Like every time I hear the ESPN app go off, like, is that it? Is that it? No, it's never it. Barry: I'm over it, bro. Mm mm. I figure you or somebody will text me when it happens. So I'm gonna be like, Yeah, there'll be somebody that'll let me know. Shaun: for sure. Yeah. When I see it, there'll be there'll be signs whenever I see it for sure. Barry: Jeez. Yeah. He'll either be ecstatic or d really depressed. Yep. Shaun: I really said like, man, I'm going to have to call into work. I'm just going to go and day drink for the whole day because he went somewhere else. Drama stars and the bottle of scotch. man. So cool. We'll keep an eye out on that. Lastly, or I guess not technically lastly, but. Barry: Drown my sorrows. gosh. Shaun: Love at first sight. my God. Love Island. I am already looking at something. Yeah. Love Island. I'm like mixing two different things together. No, married at first sight is what I was thinking. Yeah. But Love Island. What is new there? Or y'all gave me homework. Is it? No, no, I'm not caught up. That's, that's for sure. So y'all. Like listening. Barry: You already looking on Sean's excited about the next one. He's looking at the next show. It's over Love Island. Jen: I know, right? You trying to watch Love is Blind? Married at first sight. Barry: Speak in us. It's over, bro. It's over. Finale happened yesterday. Super lackluster. I was really Jen: Yeah, it's over. You're not caught up. The finale was yesterday. It was. Barry: let down. Shaun: no no, who won? Jen: Who do you think won? No, no, no. Who do you think won? Yeah. Based on where you're at right now. Barry: Spoiler alert. No. Shaun: Who do I think won? Well, I don't even know because all I did, I watched the dinner party episodes, but that was it. I hadn't watched anything else after that. So maybe, okay, tell me who was left. Tell me who was left and then I'll tell you after that. Yeah. Jen: Okay. Barry: Tell him the final forge, and I'll give him give him that at least. Jen: Okay, final four was Ania and Carl, Trinity and Bryce, Melanie and Sincere, Barry: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: Okay. Barry: surprisingly why America chose them, I don't know. 'Cause America likes d yes. They like the sloppy drama, bro. Shaun: Yeah, I was like, how? Jen: Listen, because America likes the drama. America likes the drama. Never mind, I was going to say it. Never mind. And last was Kata and Zach. Shaun: Okay, that's fair. Barry: Yeah, Cada and Zach were in it. Before we do that, the family episode was wild. I at least like sincere was that his dad, that dude? He at least like was upset with him, bro. Like or no. What are your opinions, Jen? Shaun: I watched the VMA episode. Jen: That was his dad and I have Okay, and you guys know my opinion on Sincere. He was very shady, very ugly, very bleh, but also he is a young kid. Like he's a young adult, right? Going on a TV show where you're meant to explore. And yes, I do think he should have done it more respectfully. He should have done it whatever, but the way his dad went in on him, I wanted to hug him. Like as a parent, Shaun: Really? Barry: Bro, his dad went in on him. Yeah. His dad didn't Jen: I was so sad because like on family night, you're going to talk to him like that in front of these people that they're just now meeting. No, no, he did not. He could have been Barry: Bro, talk about accountability. Bro, what? He needed to hear that. No, his dad did the right thing, bro. Yes he did. Jen: like, I'm, I love you. I'm so happy to see you. Also, I'm kind of disappointed in the way that you're. He did too much. He did too much. Barry, we cannot always be on the opposite ends. This is what's going to make this show good. If anything, it's me and Barry fighting all the time. Barry: Bro. His dad was like, yo, I didn't teach you to move like that. I don't want I don't want to need you out here acting like this. No, he did not. He did what a dad for a young man should. No, bro. No. No, bro. Shaun: Mm-hmm. my gosh. Jen: No, he did too much. went again, Sean, you're going to have to be the tiebreaker because this guy did too much. He could have started high. I'm so excited. No, yes, he did. No, he didn't. Barry: He did exactly what he should have done. No bro. I don't he didn't yell at him or anything. He literally just told him what's up. Yo, he wasn't even gonna come, but he had to come tell his son how much of a non good decision he was making. Nah, bro. I salute that man over and over. Shout out to Sincere's dad. No. Jen: Yeah. So you're on, as you know, this is being broadcast to America. Like this is no, he should have said, hi, I've missed you. I love you. I'm still proud of you. But no matter what, I was really disappointed in your behavior. You weren't raised to move that way. So let's really work on. That is not how he said it. He didn't say I missed you. I'm so happy to be here. He didn't say I'm proud of you. He didn't say I love you. He went on. Barry: No bro. No. Yep. Those were words that he said. So you agree. You agree. Jin, if your son was in there moving like that, would you go and tell him that? I would not. No bro. We'd be having some words. No, bro. Nah. Nah. No, man. He did not curse and yell at him. Jin, you be exaggerated, bro. Jen: He hit and I sure I sure would say I love you. I've missed you. Let's talk about this disappointing behavior and how you can change it. But no, this guy was cursing at him, yelling at him in front of these. Sean, go back and watch this. We're going to pull it up right now. Yes. Yes, I will. He went too hard. He went too hard. He did. Shaun: Oh god. Y'all are gonna make me watch this crap again? My goodness. Barry: Just go watch the family episode. Just watch the sincere and Melanie. No, he did not. Yo, Melanie's sister went in at him too. Salute to her too. What are you talking about? Why wouldn't you expect that from her dad? Shaun: Just watch the episode. Jen: He made it awkward and it was too hard. Yeah, but you expect that from her. No, you expect that from her because she has no ties to sincere. I would not expect that from his. No, Ew, Barry, cut it out. I hate that. We're about to have issues. I hate when parents sit there and say, Barry: His son is a reflection of him as a man, Jen, so he wants his Shaun: you Jen: your behavior reflects on me so you need to be XYZ and get your together like no they are their own person yes you teach them Barry: Bro, we literally sat here and talked about how it was disgusting how dishonest and how he was moving so disrespectfully and his dad needed to tell him that. So what are we talking about? Bruh, bruh. Nah, bro. Jen: Yes, a hundred percent. But his, his dad does not need to worry about that reflecting bad on him. He needs to say, Hey, how can I help you become a better person? It has nothing to do with me or what people think of me. It needs to be what people think of you and how can you be a better person? Has nothing. When people want to be like, well, I need to adjust my child's behavior because it looks bad on me. No, you need to go sit your vein ass down. Like, no, that has nothing to do with you. Barry: I don't think he was like that. I'm just saying, bro. That's how hit like nah. No. Jen: I've, I've, that's the vibe I got and I didn't like it. Made me feel bad for a guy that I have not liked this entire season. No, he definitely moves sneaky, but you've been the whole time you've been sitting here preaching, it's love Island. They're meant to explore. They're meant to go do that. You meant to do that. Barry: No. That dude got what he deserved, bro. He needed to hear them words. They are, but I still have also said you can be respectful and honest of these people too. And he was not. He was pla yo, we literally sat here and talked about how he was using these same pickup lines and the same pet names, Jen. If somebody talked to your daughter like that, you wouldn't want somebody to go in at them. You wouldn't want their parent to be accountable and tell them that they were doing the wrong thing. Okay, so what what are we talking about? No, bro. Jen: very. I'm gonna need you to not be quiet now. I'm gonna need you to Shaun: don't wanna watch more episodes. Jen: No, 100%. I would want their parents to be but in a much, much better way. Shaun: Okay, hold on. think that I can resolve this. I think I can resolve this. You both agree that he needed to be checked. What you don't agree on is the approach that the dad took. Barry thinks that it was a fair approach. Jen, you think that it was a bit harsh and he could have been more gentle in the approach. Barry: No, well Sean, you ain't gonna resolve it. Jen: Yeah, 100%. Barry: Hundred percent. Jen: 100%. Barry: I do. Jen: It was harsh. Yes, 100%. He could have said anything kind to him. No, he did not. Barry: I feel he was respectful of the kid and he told him at the end that he loved him. He just said, You need yes Shaun: That's right. Barry: he did. Yes he did. They hugged and everything. Shaun: Love is overrated anyway. I mean, can we be honest with that? Jen: You better cut it out. especially because now fast forward to the finale episode, they got clips of recordings from some of their family that didn't get to come. And one was from his mom. And tell me why that. Her first words out of her mouth were, I love you. I miss you. I'm proud of you, no matter what you went through. But you don't think you can find a balance there? Like, you don't think you can find a balance within that? Barry: N see that's the difference between a a mom and a dad. That is the difference. Shaun: That's fair. Barry: He probably gets all the love from his mom and so his dad has to be the person. But that's I'm not saying that it's okay, but if that's the dynamic in that family, then that's what he needed in that moment because he was moving and well he should have. Again, he felt bad. He should. Shaun: I think that is the balance. Jen: But that is not okay. That cannot be a thing. You have to get love from both. But that's also why he started bawling. Because you know he's felt awful about it. Yes. And again, I think he should feel bad. I 100 % agree. I really do think… No. Barry: Dad check, mom check. They both did their thing. He is a well rounded person. He gets the things that make him nut. Jen: Barry. Barry: Y'all crazy No No Nope. That man got what he needed to hear, bro. Shaun: Not going to change either one of your minds, so I guess it doesn't really matter. You both agree. You both agree. You both agree that Sincere was a bad person during the show. You both agree. Well, the way that he moved was, yeah, it was very disrespectful in the way that he did it. He even said that. Yeah, he even said it a few times himself, that he was being disrespectful in the way that he did it. Jen: No. No. Yes. Yes. He wasn't a bad person. just, yes. Yes. He made really, really poor decisions as a young adult might. Yes. Yeah. Barry: I I don't even say he was a bad person. He just moved horribly. Yes. Shaun: They were half-ass apologies. He wasn't actually apologizing during those times. So that makes it even more disrespectful, in my opinion. That makes it even more disrespectful. So dad came in during family day. He set him straight. Barry agrees with the approach. Jen doesn't agree with the approach, but they both agree that he got the message that he needed to get, just not in the way that he got it. So there you go. Jen: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Barry: Hundred po cent. Dad laid into him, bo. I do. Jen: Mm-mm-mm. I mean, I really do think, no he didn't. I really do think that this is a big moment for him because I feel like, you know, as you get older, at least in my humble opinion, you go through like these really big moments in your life where you're like, okay, wow, like, no, I really need to take a step back. And I really do feel like this has been one for him where he really truly will grow from this. I hope so. I really do. Barry: Mm. No, he got it in the way he needed it, bro. Yeah. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Barry: yeah. I hope so. I hope so. I really do for him for his sake. Jen: get the vibe. Obviously we're not there. I don't know him personally, but from what I'm seeing, I really do think he like sat there and was like, wow, I really did F up. Like I really do think this is going to have an impact on him. Yeah. Barry: As he should. That dad held that mirror right in his face, bro. Dad said, Hey bro, check yourself. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Dad said, baaah, with a mirror. Like, he did. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Barry: No he didn't. No, he did not. No. Shaun: Oh man. All right. Well, who Barry: Okay. we're gonna Sean's not gonna go. yeah, you did not guess. We at least need a guess. Shaun: ended up winning then? Who? I don't want to guess. Who was the second one? It was, so you said, Kada and Zack. Jen: No, you have to guess. He said, I don't want to. was Kaden, Zach, Melanie, Sincere, Anaya, Carl, Trinity and Bryce. Barry: Caden Zach and Bison Trinity. Shaun: I think Trinity and Bryce won. Okay, yeah. I just need to hear the names again, but I think that they won, because they were together for basically the entire time, weren't they? Yeah. Yeah. Jen: Yeah, they did. They did. Barry: They do. Jen: The whole time. They were. Barry: entirety of it, yeah. Jen: They were. Which doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be the winners. I think some people go in there and think, let me just link up with this one person and stay with them the whole time and we'll win. And that does not always work. No. And people can tell. Like you can tell. So, but they did. They did win. Barry: They were the No, not necessarily. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: And stay with them. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: No. Last season. No. Shaun: Because then you're not really playing the game. Like the whole game is exploring and finding out and stuff, Barry: Mm-hmm. But yeah. Okay, so why did they take away the twist of whether they choose they're gonna split the money or not? Because I was waiting, I was like, this is where I wanted to see. I knew who was gonna win. I wanna see who's gonna choose. Jen: I know. I said the same thing. Okay, Sean, normally, so they win $100,000 in of the seasons, UK and here. You, at the end, the winning couple is awarded $100,000. But the twist is they ask, are you here for love or are you here for money? And they have them split. They have them pick a card. They have them pick a card. They can't see. So you pick one and then both of them open at the same time. One of them says money. Shaun: Where they do what? Barry: In past seasons. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Barry: Sean's whole point of the show. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Jen: One of them says zero dollars and they get to pick two. You want to keep the entire hundred grand yourself or do you want to split it with the person you're there with? And this is the first season they didn't do that. Yeah, I have no clue. They must have just decided to change the rules and make it because maybe I don't know if USA has ever had somebody who just took the money all. I think they always split it. So maybe they were just like, all right, like let's just split it. Shaun: Mmm... Really? That's stupid. Barry: Mm-hmm. They didn't show it. They they'd be just changing that crap all the time, bro. Ruthless, well. People be hating on him. Shaun: Yeah. Hmm. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe there has been like blowback from it or people getting like threats or like hate mail or something like that if they chose the money instead of love, maybe. Jen: There have been people on UK that took money. I don't know. Barry: I don't know. Did you see the other crazy thing that they were saying, Jen? They were saying that Melanie and Anaya were making out in the pool? Jen: Yeah, I don't know. What? No. I mean, Melanie's made out with a couple of people, a couple of the girls this season. She made out with Trinity in the bed, the giant bed masks episode. She made it. She, don't know if she really made out with, but she definitely kissed Kada in another one. Barry: Y'all didn't see that? I've seen like two or three videos of it. Shaun: definitely didn't see it. Barry: well then maybe this isn't as big of a shock, but yeah. she did. I don't remember. I I don't I don't store this stuff in my long term memory. Shaun: Hmm. Barry: It goes out my brain as soon as we talk about it. No, I'm so glad it's over. Do you see how unemotionally invested I am in this? It was the biggest like just like wow, that was disappointing. Shaun: Whatever dude, you became obsessed with it. You became so obsessed with Love at First Sight. No. You Jen: It's his favorite show. Locked in for season nine. Mm-mm. Shaun: were locked in. Barry: No. I became ready for the show, that's all. I will. I don't d well, I'm not a trash T V person, so that is the definition of trash T V. Shaun: You can deny anything you want, bro, but you were locked into it. It's all good. Jen: I will say this season was, I do feel a little disappointed by it. Like it wasn't, I can't put my finger on what it was, but it did feel very like lackluster and just kind of like, Barry: No, it was whack. I watched the final episode in ten minutes. Jen: Yeah. Shaun: I mean, all they were doing was sticking their tongues down each other's throats. mean, I feel like that was... Barry: No, that that's way gone. That's this is now literally it's just like watching couples just talk. That's all it is. It's not even Yeah, a whack ass date. Jen: Yeah. Shaun: I like those. Jen: Yeah, and go on a date. They each go on like a cool date. Barry: If you want to call cool, sure. Jen: They are really awkward though. I feel like they're all always awkward. And you can tell where they stopped talking and they had to clip and like cut because they stopped talking. Yeah. Barry: They're super awkward. Yeah. Shaun: Fucks. Barry: yeah. 'Cause then yeah yeah. Shaun: Well, they don't really know each other. So like, what do they have to really date about? or like, what do they have to... Barry: So okay, so Sean, they say it at the end it's like six weeks of time over the entirety of that show. Jen: They all say the same thing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shaun: Hmm. Barry: So I'm always curious 'cause it seems weird. Like I don't understand the episodes like what's the span of time on those? Shaun: Hmm. Jen: Yeah, it's like the whole summer. Barry: No, I'm saying like there's thirty five episodes, bro. So what is each episode? How much do they record? Shaun: I mean, it's over the span of six weeks. I mean, you would think that it's a couple of days. Yeah. Jen: Some of the episodes are two days. Some of them are only one. It just kind of depends. Barry: See that's what I'm saying. I don't i i i I get lost in all that. I don't keep track. But no. I mean I feel like people could fall in love in six weeks. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Shaun: Hmm. I mean, feel like you can fall in love in two seconds, but is it actually love? I think you can. So you don't believe in love at first sight then. Barry: Mm, nah. Not in two seconds, I wouldn't think. Yes. Jen: You call it infatuation. I don't know if it's actual love. Barry: No, I'm not. I don't. I I you're attracted to somebody. Yes. Yes. Yes. I believe in connection. Mm-hmm. Vibes for sure. No, you gotta grow to some love somebody, bro. Like you gotta go through some things, man. You gotta go through things to love somebody. I in my opinion. Jen: I don't either. I think I believe in infatuation. Yeah. I believe in connection and energy and infatuation and we vibe hard. Love is a very different thing. Shaun: Really? Okay, okay, explain to me how love is different than that. Jen: Yes. Because yes, no, this is maybe this is our moment, Barry. This is where we agree. This is it. This is it. Shaun: Do you though? Barry: I feel. Sean's like, nah, I'm not I'm not on this one. Shaun: Y'all are gonna agree and I don't agree now. Jen: We found it. No, I, no, I a hundred percent agree. I think love is different because you can, again, feel all the feelings. You can be really, you can really care for somebody, but until you have said, I'm going to stick by this person, even when this ugly thing happens, when this hard time happens, when this struggle is just intense and we really don't like each other maybe in this moment, I'm like, love is a, it's just a different level. Barry: Still my person, yeah. Jen: It's a different thing. like even when Kenny and I were first together, we didn't say I love you for really long time because it's just like a very intense, in my opinion, I think it's a very intense thing. don't really believe in love at first sight because you just love is different than that. Shaun: Mm-hmm. Yeah. So y'all are saying that love is dependent upon like difficult situations or... Barry: Okay, I'll say this. Jen: I think it's just a commitment to saying that I'm going to back you. Barry: To another person that is not your blood, like for your child, I could see love in first. Like I probably fell in love with my daughters at first sight. But that's a different love to me. Like if you're saying the love of a romantic person that I'm gonna spend a lot of time with, it takes time to develop that in my opinion. Jen: very true. Mm-hmm. Romantic love. Shaun: yeah, that's different. Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. 100%. Shaun: So if you, okay, so if you find this person and everything is great, you all get along, you have so much in common, you meet each other's families, everything is great, you move in together, like everything works out, you go through all of your finances, that part is good, like everything all works out. Can those people not be in love because they haven't like gone through a test yet? Jen: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Barry: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean you're gonna go through life events that make all those things happen. It didn't have to be bad, I don't think you I mean I say go through things, you just gotta go through life together like and decide things together. Like we're gonna buy a home together, we're gonna move here together, we're gonna like when you build your life with somebody, I think that's when like love can definitely become like a real thing and an emotion that you feel for that person. But I I don't know. I feel like that takes those life events to happen together. Jen: I know. I think it's... Shaun: Okay. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's. Yeah, I think it takes time to really. Barry: 'Cause do people change, bro. I'm not the same person that I was when I met back at nineteen years old. Are you kidding? Like, we grow, we change. Like in like Jen said, if you're committed to that person, like, I don't know. I feel like I love unconditionally for most people, bro. Even if you do me wrong, I'll give you another chance. Eventually. I'll forgive you. But forgiveness is for me. It ain't for you. It's for me to move on from what you did to me. I'm still gonna think about what you did, but I don't f Jen: 100 % for sure. Shaun: Yeah, people change. Everyone changes and evolves. Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Barry: I don't feel like people are like people get labeled as a liar. Like people lie in situations. I think that. I think life is situational. Like just 'cause I do something in one situation doesn't mean I'm gonna do the same thing in a completely different situation. And that's the same thing with like when you connect with somebody. Like I've gotta you know, I've gotta know that you are gonna have my back or I gotta feel that and I gotta believe it and I mean, I don't know. It just a lot goes into it in my opinion. Jen: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Shaun: yeah. So can you not Jen: I just Shaun: feel those things after a deep conversation? Let's say that we just met and we're going through it, we have a really deep conversation and both of you feel this connection. Jen: I don't think you feel clear. Barry: That builds. Jen: Yeah. Barry: It's like a bank account, bro. I feel like it's like a bank account. Yes, for sure. Like I mean, and I think that's at a different level for different people for sure. I make some people might fall in love sooner and on not as many things and but maybe that's just who they are as a person. That's just how they like they just let go. Like I feel like I try and do that in a lot of things that I do just to fully immerse myself so I can s true I mean Shaun: It's like an emotional bank account, yeah. So it's like an emotional bank account that you're making deposits into. Jen: Quite literally. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Barry: Kinda like Love Island, like you gotta explore, bro. Like you gotta explore, you gotta like let your walls down and I say that. Nah, I mean, no, that's not real life though to me. That's why it's just trash TV. 'Cause it's six tweaks a lot. I mean, and that's all you're doing for six weeks. It's not like I'm out here like legit worried about bills and like trying to get to and from things in my life and like history though kids in the like all that adds to it. But I dunno, it's just like a bank account, man. Jen: You got it, you got Shaun: That's why you became so infatuated with it. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Yeah. Shaun: Well, that's why I think that like shows like Love Island, that's why I think that it's not... I guess this isn't fair to say, but I feel like it's not legitimate. Like you can't legitimately fall in love with someone in those types of circumstances because you're not actually dealing with real life. Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. parameters. Barry: You can connect with somebody and potentially fall in love with them, but I don't think at that point you're you've gone through enough real life scenarios to s to to say that it's love. And but again, that's just my opinion, bro. That's just how I see the world. I I I c that's just the way I move through it. So everybody's gonna move through it in their own way. And if these people fall fall in love and it's what it is and shit, they stay married fifty years, good for them. I hope I hope that's what happens because I don't I wouldn't wish Jen: Mm-hmm. Shaun: Yeah. Jen: Mm-hmm. Shaun: That's just an opinion. Yeah. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: Like, you know, those disappointments are heartbreak on anybody. But like you said, let's be real. What's really probably gonna come out of it, you know? I don't know. But no, I'm not a I'm not a big believer of love and first sight for romantic relationships, infatuation, attraction, connection. Jen: Mm-hmm. Shaun: Yeah. That's Jen: me either. Shaun: See, I think that it can happen. I think the possibility of it is very, very limited, but I think that it can happen. I think that you can find this person and immediately you have this connection with them. Maybe you don't know that it's love until further down the line, but I think that you can fall in love with them at that moment, and then it just grows even stronger from there. Jen: one in a million. Barry: Maybe. I hope that works for some people, man. Shaun: Right? Barry: I do, I do. Jen: It would make so many things a easier. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: it's all communication, man. As hard as we make things in relationships, it really just comes down to communication. Again. Shaun: That's fair. Jen: Yeah. Where should I? Shaun: Do relationships are just, I mean, they're all so very different, but yeah, it's always gonna be difficult. It's work. Like you all are saying, like in order for a relationship to last, you both have to be willing to put in work. It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what your relationship is, you have to be willing to put in that work for it to work out. Yeah. Balance, communication, trust. Jen: hard. Yeah. Barry: Mm, very much. Jen: Yeah. Barry: Nope. Jen: Mm-hmm. Barry: And you gotta balance each other. It's all balanced, man. You gotta have somebody who cares too much and Jen: Mm-hmm. Barry: somebody who doesn't care at all so that it all balances out. You have two people that two care too much, bro. There's gonna be an anxiety written relationship if two people care too much. Jen: Yeah. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah, I don't think that you can have someone that doesn't care at all. Yeah, but I don't think that you can have someone that doesn't care at all. That will eventually catch up. Yeah. Jen: Yeah, no. Barry: Mm. It's worked out for me pretty well, bro. Jen: It has to be two people. no, because exactly. It's not that you don't care. It's that you can let go of certain things easier, but that's more personality than you not caring. You care just as much about Becca than she cares about you. The care and the love is the same. Just your personality, how you handle situations and how you communicate is different. Shaun: Because you say that you don't care what you actually do. You're full of crap. Barry: I let it most stuff rolls off my back, bro. Yeah, no, I do care. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: for sure. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: Different. Yeah. Jen: But again, I think that's where it's nice to balance each other out because she makes you talk more about things and you make her kind of calm down from it, you know what I mean? And not overanalyze. But I think that's different than somebody that just doesn't care because somebody who doesn't care is very obvious and that is not a relationship that's gonna last. Sean, he is single. Barry: Facts. Yeah. Shaun: Yeah. Barry: No, she tries. She tries. No, for sure. You ain't wrong. For sure. Shaun: you Yeah. Barry: No, I don't know Shaun: That is me. And that is why I am single. Because I really don't care. Like I will love you. I will support you. I will do everything I can to make sure that your life is as fruitful and as beautiful as you want it to be. But when it comes down to just like individual to me nonsensical decisions, I don't care. I could not possibly care any less. Jen: I don't care. Barry: Yeah. Jen: I feel like for the right person you'd care. Shaun: Maybe. Barry: Care enough. Jen: I think for the right person you'd care. Yeah. Shaun: At this point, I haven't found the right person, so I don't think that that right person is entirely... No, they're not. Nope, they're not. I'm cool with it. Barry: Well, there you go. Jen: And that's, yeah, and they are, they are. Yeah, they are. Barry: Never know, bro. Never know. They might come into your Jen: They Barry: life when you least expect Jen: are. Exactly. Shaun: Nah. Nope. I will shut it down real quick. But anyway, so yeah, now that Love Island is over, we'll have to find another one that we can keep up with, make sure that we stay on top of some good debates for y'all to see what other shows. Yeah, because it's so fun seeing the two of you argue. Jen: No you won't. Yeah, for us to start arguing some more about. We've had way too much agreement in this last little segment. Barry: And real cop aesthetic. Shaun: But now we need to get out of here for real. Thank you all. Yeah. Thank you all so much for hanging out. There's going to be a couple of really cool things that you see coming out pretty soon. We've got a really special project happening for you. Jen: We're over time guys. Barry: Way over. Keep your eyes out, y'all. Shaun: So be on the lookout for that project. I'm not going to tell you too much about what's going on there, but there will be information to come. As I said earlier, though, thank you so much for joining us. We love every single one of you for your support and for coming through and watching us listening to us wherever it is that you might listen. If you have not already, go and check out our website, www.baldenoughtosayit.com. You've got all of our different platforms for social media and any of the different ways that you might want to listen to us. We definitely appreciate everyone who has been there to support us. We have a couple of, I just said it a couple of moments ago, but we have a couple of really cool big announcements that are gonna be coming out here in probably the next few weeks or so that we are planning some really cool things for you guys. So keep listening and we love you. We'll see you in the future for episode number eight. Bye everybody. Jen: Yeah. Barry: Say ciao. Peace out.