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The Bolt Report | 17 September · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Is the reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight the Albanezy government faces another crisis, claims that it
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Speaker 2: really has lost its way in the economy. That's off
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Speaker 2: to a verdict today from big business, but from a
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Speaker 2: labor giant as the government. Really, what can you say now?
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, an exclusive a former top police chief accuses
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Speaker 2: the Labor Party and the Victoria Police of collusion in
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Speaker 2: clearing former Labor premier and his wife Daniel Andrews over
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Speaker 2: an accident that left a young cyclist seriously injured. That
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Speaker 2: interview coming up, don't miss it. And Trump de arrangement Syndrome,
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Speaker 2: how the media is blaming Donald Trump for yet another
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Speaker 2: attempt to assassinate him and the kookie ANTINEU clear rants
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Speaker 2: by a Labor campaign boss on the ABC last night.
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Speaker 2: But I have got a scare for her. Does she
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Speaker 2: know she was actually exposed to radiation on that show?
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Speaker 2: Should I really tell her? But first, then, before I
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Speaker 2: get to this astonishing attack on the Albanize government of
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Speaker 2: one of its own. Today, the government showed again it
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Speaker 2: is dangerously arrogant and dangerously hostile to free speech. It's
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Speaker 2: not just its new so called disinformation bill, It's not
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Speaker 2: just its wars the force tech giants to censor our
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Speaker 2: debates today back by the Greens. It trashed a century
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Speaker 2: of parliamentary practice to shutdown a politician try to raise
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Speaker 2: a critical debate. This was an attack on our democracy
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Speaker 2: which debate. Well, you might recall Prime Minister Anthony albanese
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Speaker 2: Is recently his last year, claimed to have no trouble
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Speaker 2: defining what a woman really was. What is a woman?
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister?
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Speaker 3: An adult female?
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Speaker 2: Good answer. But guess what happened when One Nation leader
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson decided, fine, well, it's changed the Sex Discrimination Act,
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Speaker 2: reverse the changes made under the Gillard government to say
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Speaker 2: exactly that, to take out the words saying your sex
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Speaker 2: is what you call your gender identity and say that
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Speaker 2: a man is a member of the male biological sex
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Speaker 2: and a woman a member of the female biological sex.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that exactly what Albanizi told the media, and isn't
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Speaker 2: that what biological textbooks say now? The reason Hanson wanted
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Speaker 2: this change now is that a federal court judge has
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Speaker 2: just ruled that your sex isn't really what you're born with. Essentially,
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Speaker 2: you can make it up, he said. An international internet
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Speaker 2: chat group for women had been wrong to exclude a
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Speaker 2: transgender activist called rock sand Tickle and Hanson, like many Australians,
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Speaker 2: thought this decision was plainly ridiculous. The law had to change. Now,
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Speaker 2: I bet the most astrainers would agree, would at least
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Speaker 2: want to hear both sides of this the in our parliament.
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Speaker 2: But here's what the government did last week and again
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Speaker 2: today it banned that debate with the help of the
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Speaker 2: Greens that refused to let Hanson have a first reading
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Speaker 2: of her bill to change the law. Now, let me
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Speaker 2: explain what that means. To get a law passed, you
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Speaker 2: first have to have what's called a first reading of
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Speaker 2: your bill, your planned legislation. That's just to say here
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Speaker 2: it is, here it is, have a look. Then there's
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Speaker 2: a second reading where it's actually debated and voted on,
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Speaker 2: and then a third reading to make of the law
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Speaker 2: or not. Now that first reading is in virtually every
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Speaker 2: case a formality. I mean, you can go through years
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Speaker 2: and never have Parliament vote to say no, you can't
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Speaker 2: even put your bill before Parliament. Shut up. But Labor
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Speaker 2: in the Greens did exactly that last week and again today.
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Speaker 2: The Liberals try to fight it with Senator A clear
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Speaker 2: Chandler of fighting for women's rights, rightly amazed by Labours
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Speaker 2: in tolerance and hypocrisy.
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Speaker 4: When he was seeking the vote of women, he unequivocally
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Speaker 4: said that a woman is an adult female. But today
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Speaker 4: his government, along with the Greens, blocked the introduction of
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Speaker 4: a bill that attempted to confirm in law that a
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Speaker 4: woman is a member of the female sex. They claimed
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Speaker 4: it was dangerous for the Parliament to even be able
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Speaker 4: to debate a bill which would have clarified exactly the
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Speaker 4: same position that the Prime Minister himself pretended to agree
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Speaker 4: with two years ago, appalling.
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Speaker 2: Hanson was of course furious today at being censored.
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Speaker 3: So listen to the Australian people.
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Speaker 5: They want debate on this, They want answers, They want
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Speaker 5: common sense to prevail in this parliament.
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Speaker 3: They don't want to be shut down.
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Speaker 5: You have no right to do it to the Australian people,
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Speaker 5: and stop shutting me down every time I raised something
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Speaker 5: you don't like.
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Speaker 2: In return, Labor and the Greens just vilified Hanson and
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Senate Leader and Simon Birmingham for sticking up
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Speaker 2: for a writer as an elected politician, to present a
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Speaker 2: legislation by the usual rules. No argument from Labor in
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Speaker 2: the Green is just abuse and inarticulate rage.
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Speaker 6: What we just saw from Senate to Birmingham was a
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Speaker 6: quizzling concession too far right, an attempt to weease all
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Speaker 6: the way into the outrage debate.
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Speaker 2: By hurting little kids.
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Speaker 4: This disgusting retrick, this disgusting level of debate, as is
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Speaker 4: the broad up Australian community, disgraceful act of political.
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Speaker 3: Disgust. It's just disgusting, you know, it hurts little kids.
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Speaker 2: And what is disgusting is that Labor in the Greens
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Speaker 2: still haven't learned from Britain's Cast Inquiry that helping even
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Speaker 2: teenagers to change their gender can cause much more harm
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Speaker 2: than good, that mutilating people who are often troubled cannot
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Speaker 2: be always a cure, but a tragedy. That's not what
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Speaker 2: Hanson's bill was even about. It was about making law
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Speaker 2: conform to what even the Prime Minister says is the
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Speaker 2: definition of a woman. And to that Labour says, shut
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Speaker 2: up and we'll trash Australia's Parliament to make you. And
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Speaker 2: you must ask if they will do this to even
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Speaker 2: an elected politician, what would these bullies do to your
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Speaker 2: free speech, big business. It's really now at war with
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Speaker 2: the Albaniza government. They finally realize they've been taken to
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Speaker 2: the cleaners by a government that's more left wing than
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Speaker 2: even GoF Whitlam's. And you know that it is because
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Speaker 2: on top of the business criticisms today, I'll get to
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Speaker 2: the Business Council's attack later. Was also criticism by one
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Speaker 2: of the giants of the left, former ACTU secretary Bill Kelty. Now,
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Speaker 2: Kelty was the union boss who made a deal with
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Bob Hawk to keep a lid on wage
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Speaker 2: rises in exchange for the government support for workers, a
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Speaker 2: social wage, more support, lower wages, well suppressed wages that
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Speaker 2: controlled inflation, and together Kelty and Hawk made Australians more
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Speaker 2: productive and richer. I worked for that government for Kelty
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Speaker 2: now says, the Labor Party under Albanize seems to have
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Speaker 2: lost its way. For a great number of people, they
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Speaker 2: face a world of renting, not home ownership, total marginal
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Speaker 2: tax rates including the GSD of over fifty percent, and
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Speaker 2: jobs in which the real value of their wages have declined.
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Speaker 2: And he said, what we do not need is a
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Speaker 2: self congratulatory government telling people they've really cared and looked
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Speaker 2: after them, and his absolutely correct. Australians have been getting
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Speaker 2: much poorer per person under the last two years of
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Speaker 2: this government. Under a government's been belting business with higher
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Speaker 2: power prices, more green tape, more union regulations, letting inflation
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Speaker 2: stay so high. Now, last week there was a Minerals
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Speaker 2: Council who cracked it and worn the government. It was
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Speaker 2: wrecking the mining industry. And today the Business Council's the
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Speaker 2: new chief probably around now, is going to tell Albineazy
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Speaker 2: to his face in a speech in Canberra just what
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Speaker 2: Bill Kelty said almost the same words. Rather than feeling
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Speaker 2: confident in the national growing national prosperity, he said, who
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Speaker 2: will say, many CEOs feel we are losing our way.
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Speaker 2: Labor is we are taking incremental but noticeable steps backwards.
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Speaker 2: They'll say this shouldn't be dismissed as talking Australia down.
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Speaker 2: It's not an Australian to call that out. That last
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Speaker 2: bit was a dig at the authoritarian way that Albanezy
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Speaker 2: last week tried to dismiss. I told you about the
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Speaker 2: attitude of free speech, tried to dismiss the Minerals Council
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Speaker 2: as disloyal wings.
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Speaker 7: If we listen to they spend all their time talking
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Speaker 7: Australia down and saying our companies can't compete and our
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Speaker 7: workers shouldn't try, then the world will go right past.
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Speaker 2: Us today, Alan as you trying to defend himself from
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Speaker 2: the Business Council's attack by doing exactly what Bill Kelty
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Speaker 2: said he shouldn't congratulating himself.
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Speaker 7: We've harved inflation while dealing with cost of living pressures,
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Speaker 7: while creating on our watch a million jobs. We are
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Speaker 7: making sure that Australians are looked after at what our
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Speaker 7: diffiult global economic times.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is Leith fanonsenan co founder of macro Business,
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Speaker 2: a fantastic website and a former Federal Treasury official. Leith,
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Speaker 2: great to see you again. How serious are these criticisms
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Speaker 2: from business groups and even Bill Kelty? Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Look I think and Andrew bill Kelty was on the
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Speaker 8: money there. Look, if you just look at the data,
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Speaker 8: the economy is in incredibly poor shape and living standards
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Speaker 8: the gown backwards. So first of Australa's labour productivity is
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Speaker 8: the worst in the Anglo sphere since the pandemic, and
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Speaker 8: it's fallen all the way back to twenty sixteen levels,
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Speaker 8: so we're going backwards there.
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Speaker 1: We obviously have an acute housing shortage which has.
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Speaker 8: Been brought about by the Albanese government bringing in half
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Speaker 8: a million more migrants that are initially projected, which has
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Speaker 8: caused that rental crisis. We've got a GDP per capita
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Speaker 8: a session that is the longest in modern history, having
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Speaker 8: run for.
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Speaker 1: Six consecutive quarters.
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Speaker 8: Household real per capita household I supposable income has experienced
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Speaker 8: one of the world's biggest declines, falling by eight point
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Speaker 8: two percent since Labor came to office. And obviously and
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Speaker 8: also the unemployment rates slightly higher than when Albo came
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Speaker 8: to office. So basically, I think I think Albow's gas
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Speaker 8: lighting us when you're trying to say that things are
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Speaker 8: better and here's the thing, Andrew Strains aren't falling for it.
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Speaker 8: So a Redbridge poll that was released earlier this month
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Speaker 8: showed that only twenty four percent of those surveyed could
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Speaker 8: name a single thing that the Albanese government has done
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Speaker 8: that has.
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Speaker 1: Improved their situation.
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Speaker 8: So that's basically three quarters survey couldn't name a single
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Speaker 8: thing that later has done.
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Speaker 2: At Leith, I bet you that you bristled like I did.
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Speaker 2: But hearing Albaniz, you just say that the government's created
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Speaker 2: one million jobs for start. Half those jobs, by make guess,
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Speaker 2: were for the massive number of immigrants it's let in.
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Speaker 2: And as you show, that's helped create a housing shortage
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Speaker 2: is so bad that rents have exploded. Most of the
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Speaker 2: straints can't afford to buy their own home. And you've
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Speaker 2: just discovered the government's actually broken his promise the slash immigration.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, look, look's actually worse than Andrew.
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Speaker 8: I mean, the Abanese government's brought in about one point
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Speaker 8: one five million migrants since it came to offers, so
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Speaker 8: that means that it's actually brought in more migrants than
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Speaker 8: it's created in jobs. So you know it's actually worse
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Speaker 8: than that. But yes, the latest monthly net permanent long
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Speaker 8: term arrivals data from the ABS showed that immigration remains
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Speaker 8: at absolute turbo charge level. So, for example, in the
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Speaker 8: first seven months of this year, so we have data
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Speaker 8: for the first seven months, and that showed that three
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Speaker 8: hundred and thirty five two hundred net perman long term
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Speaker 8: arrivals have arrived in the first seven months of this
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Speaker 8: year year. Now, just to put them in into perspective
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Speaker 8: about fifteen thousand more than arrived last year, which was
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Speaker 8: a record, and it's also one hundred and ten thousand,
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Speaker 8: two hundred more than arrived in the same period in
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Speaker 8: twenty nine to eight. So what this basically tells you
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Speaker 8: was that immigration is running at absolutely, you know, ridiculous levels,
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Speaker 8: and that was confirmed by the latest National accounts for
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Speaker 8: June quarter, which showed that population growth actually accelerating at
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Speaker 8: about six hundred and fifty five thousand.
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Speaker 1: We had about six hundred fifty.
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Speaker 8: Five thousand population increased last financial year twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, twenty four, so you know, the numbers
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Speaker 8: are just off the charts, Andrew, and this is basically
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Speaker 8: the reason why Australias a rental crisis.
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Speaker 2: It's just incredible how they've lost control of inflation of immigration.
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Speaker 2: It was only at the end of last year they said,
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Speaker 2: I know we've got on a control. Then we're going
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Speaker 2: to make all these big cuts and as you say,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, we're ahead of where we were at
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Speaker 2: the same time last I mean, it's just unbelievable. Now
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Speaker 2: the Business Council and I just did it then sold
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Speaker 2: it as having really taken it to the government today.
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Speaker 2: I mean they've been you know, rolling over, you know,
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Speaker 2: rub my tummy to the government for years until they
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Speaker 2: realize have been conned. But it is still bought the
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Speaker 2: cool aid I think leaf for one, it's telling ALBINIZI
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Speaker 2: it still supports that zero missions by twenty fifty, but
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Speaker 2: it also does want the cheap and reliable electricity it's
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Speaker 2: not getting if you ask me, it cannot have both. Yeah, look, it's.
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Speaker 8: Certainly a contradiction in terms. And here's the thing, Andrew. Look,
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Speaker 8: the Business Council is a lobby group and everything that
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Speaker 8: says you'd be taken with a massive spoonful.
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Speaker 1: Of sault, just like every politician.
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Speaker 8: So you know, the reason why they don't really trust
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Speaker 8: the Business Council is they have lobbied incessantly for more immigration.
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Speaker 1: They always do it.
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Speaker 8: They've also remained silent on the hyperinflation of gas and
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Speaker 8: electricity prices, which are obviously squeezing not just households but
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Speaker 8: also businesses. So you know, actually, this fantastical net zero
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Speaker 8: target by twenty fifty, which is a face, how are
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Speaker 8: you possibly going to achieve that when in Australia's population
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Speaker 8: is projected to grow by fifty percent in the next
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Speaker 8: thirty years, adding a Sydney Melbourne at Brisbane to Australia's
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Speaker 8: current population. So look that the mathsis doesn't square here.
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Speaker 8: And you know the business councils out there trumpeting net
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Speaker 8: zero and cheap electricity and all this stuff, when actually
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Speaker 8: the data is going the opposite way.
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Speaker 1: It's getting worse.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they bringing a million people. They all have
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Speaker 2: to switch on a light, they will have to have heating,
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Speaker 2: they will have to have air con, and they think,
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Speaker 2: oh golly, this and zero transition isn't going too well.
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Speaker 2: Leith and Nonsendan, thank you so much for your time
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Speaker 2: under Victoria's labor government especially, I tell you what, it
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Speaker 2: has been getting dangerously clubby between labor, the police, and
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Speaker 2: my opinion, elements of the judiciary. I'm not saying corruption,
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Speaker 2: but very much a stifling group think. And now there's
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Speaker 2: an i'm sure report by former police Assistant Commissioner for
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Speaker 2: Traffic casting doubt on claims made by Daniel Andrews, former Premier,
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Speaker 2: about a mysterious car accident eleven years ago when his wife,
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Speaker 2: who he says was driving HiT's cyclist Ryan Mullman's leaving
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Speaker 2: him with serious injuries. Now, Andrews has always claimed the
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Speaker 2: accident of the cyclists fault. Who was fifteen years old,
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Speaker 2: that boy saying, moments after we turn turned into a
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Speaker 2: narrow beachside street, a cyclist collided heavily with the side
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Speaker 2: of our vehicle. The cyclist traveling at speed and hit
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Speaker 2: our car at a perfect right angle, very heavily. I
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Speaker 2: want to make it clear the cyclist hit our vehicle. Now,
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Speaker 2: police didn't charge either Andrews or his wife or breathlest them.
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Speaker 2: But as I said before Andrews' stories seen God. The
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Speaker 2: Herald Sun has since found pictures of the damage to
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Speaker 2: their car. That smashed windscreen doesn't look like the cyclist
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Speaker 2: hid it from the side, and paramedics who treated me
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Speaker 2: them and said in their patient care report, fifteen year
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Speaker 2: old on a bike struck on the left hand side
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Speaker 2: by car traveling forty to sixty kilometers an hour. The
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Speaker 2: car hit the cyclist from the side. It wasn't the
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Speaker 2: other way round, but now comes as report commissioned by
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Speaker 2: the Mullman family done by Ray Schuey. He was a
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Speaker 2: former Assistant Police commission for Traffic and now dead. The
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Speaker 2: report was prepared for the purpose of the litigation that
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Speaker 2: the Mullman's planning against their former lawyers. I won't go
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Speaker 2: into that will in mccollumn tomorrow. Sheuey says. Other things
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Speaker 2: don't add up here. He points out that Andrew's statement
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Speaker 2: to police actually said, well, the first I saw of
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Speaker 2: him the cyclist was when he smashed into the windscreen
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Speaker 2: of the driver's car, which doesn't match his claim that
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Speaker 2: the cyclist t boned their car. In fact, doctor Sheuey
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Speaker 2: suggests the accident was more likely caused by a fast
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Speaker 2: car cut in the corner, smashing into Ryan Mullan on
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Speaker 2: the wrong side of the street, just twenty seven meters
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Speaker 2: up from the intersection. The car didn't stopped for another
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Speaker 2: nineteen meters, suggesting it was going at speed. And there's
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Speaker 2: other things. Why did Andrew's wife give a maiden name
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Speaker 2: to police, meaning that Andrew's name was kept out of it.
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Speaker 2: Why was the police investigation so hasty written off that night,
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Speaker 2: no further action? Well, joining me is kel Glair, former
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Speaker 2: Chief Commissioner of Victoria. Please Kell glare great to catch
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Speaker 2: up with you again. Ray Schuey's report. Do you agree
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Speaker 2: with it.
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Speaker 9: Every word under every word.
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Speaker 2: Well, what did the facts of the case tell you.
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Speaker 9: That there was a concertive effort to ensure that there
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Speaker 9: was no accountability for the collision. The fact of the
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Speaker 9: matter is that there was. The job was allocated. They
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Speaker 9: were unit that he was called off and other units,
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Speaker 9: and they were closer. In fact, they were not. And
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Speaker 9: they took six and a half minutes to leave the
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Speaker 9: Rye Police station before they traveled to the scene. When
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Speaker 9: they got there, every step that was acquired by the
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Speaker 9: Victoria Police in their instructions was ignored, not followed, and
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Speaker 9: the whole manner was written off without the proper interview
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Speaker 9: of witnesses, without measurements, without adequate photographs, without any real investigation,
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Speaker 9: by just after six pm that night. Now, what that
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Speaker 9: tells me is that somewhere along the line the members
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Speaker 9: that attended must have got some kind of instruction. I
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Speaker 9: don't believe they would have taken it upon themselves to
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Speaker 9: ignore all the procedures if they hadn't been given some
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Speaker 9: kind of instruction from further up the chain of command.
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Speaker 9: Now there's been no adequate investigation, I understand. The Victoria
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Speaker 9: Police today said that the matter had been investigated. The
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Speaker 9: investigation was overseen by the Anti Corruption Givission IBAC and
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Speaker 9: there was nothing to see, and there must be an
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Speaker 9: independent investigation. That investigation has to be well and truly
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Speaker 9: free Ivictoria Police. I don't believe that IBACK has the
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Speaker 9: capacity or the will to properly investigate. So I believe
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Speaker 9: that we need an investigator pointed from outside Victoria to
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Speaker 9: examine all of the facts.
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Speaker 2: And you can't write any of this off to simply
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Speaker 2: had no laziness in competence.
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Speaker 9: No one could be that lazy or that incompetence who's
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Speaker 9: had that level of experience of pleaing No. It doesn't
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Speaker 9: hold more to say that it was just poor police work.
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Speaker 2: It was more than that.
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Speaker 9: People of that rank, senior council acting side. They had
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Speaker 9: enough experience to know what's required. And they surely had
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Speaker 9: attended any number of zerious collisions before, because you can't
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Speaker 9: spend your time out on the road without attending numerous collisions.
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Speaker 2: Kell Glare, Since Mick Miller's time, since your time, I
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Speaker 2: have worried a lot about the increasing politicization of the
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Speaker 2: Victoria Police, how close it's got to government, particularly labor
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Speaker 2: governments that you saw that in my opinion, it is
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Speaker 2: my opinion in the joint persecution of Cardinal George pell
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Speaker 2: by the Premier Daniel Andrews and by police. You've seen
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Speaker 2: it in a number of other cases, the brutal policing
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Speaker 2: of the Andrews government's draconian pandemic lockdowns. Has any of
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Speaker 2: this concerned you? Absolutely totally?
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Speaker 9: I say a group called the Good Advics Lawyers and
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Speaker 9: for the last nine and a half years we've published
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Speaker 9: an article after article on our website deploring the way
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Speaker 9: in which Victoria Police has operated. Part of the rot
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Speaker 9: set head, I believe in two thirteen with the Police Act,
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Speaker 9: which was a product of a coalition, because one of
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Speaker 9: the clauses in that says that the Victoria Police are
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Speaker 9: bound to follow government policy. That's fine, but it is
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Speaker 9: interpreted as getting the government the right to direct operational
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Speaker 9: matters for Victoria Police, and that should always be the
21:22
Speaker 9: prerogative of the Chief Commissioner if it's a proper separation
21:26
Speaker 9: of powers. That hasn't been occurring. And I've never seen
21:30
Speaker 9: governments like the past and the present one that are
21:33
Speaker 9: so incompetent, so unaccountable, and so unethical and I'm not
21:38
Speaker 9: a bit political, even though that's our only political statement.
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Speaker 2: Kell Glaire, I think something stinks in the state of Victoria.
21:48
Speaker 2: I've said it for a long time and this report
21:51
Speaker 2: has been a real eye opener, as have your comments been.
21:55
Speaker 2: Thank you so much indeed for your time. Thank you.
21:59
Speaker 2: Andrew Andrews and his wife have now issued a statement
22:03
Speaker 2: saying these Latitus allegations are an appalling conspiracy theory. They
22:08
Speaker 2: say the claims already been investigated and they have done
22:11
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. I should add, by the way, the Director
22:15
Speaker 2: of Public Prosecutions of Victoria, who prosecuted the case against
22:19
Speaker 2: Pell argued against him being released in the High Court
22:22
Speaker 2: got overalled seven judges and nil. It's just been made
22:24
Speaker 2: a judge in Victorian coming up the Labor campaign Boss
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Speaker 2: and the ABC last night ran a mad Anti nuclear rant.
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize she was being exposed to radiation as
22:38
Speaker 2: she did.
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Speaker 1: It literally science, literally science.
22:44
Speaker 2: And science is what she's about to get after this.
22:51
Speaker 2: I have some very scary news for Labor sprooker d Madigan.
22:57
Speaker 2: Now Madigan was a creative director of Labour's campaign in
23:01
Speaker 2: the last federal election, and last night she was on
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Speaker 2: Q and a on the ABC and when the full
23:07
Speaker 2: hysteric on the liberals plans for nuclear power and didn't
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Speaker 2: the ABC audience love it.
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Speaker 5: There's been thirty six accidents, I think worldwide, and even
23:16
Speaker 5: the slightest, the slightest race in radiation means increase in
23:20
Speaker 5: miscarriage and is a still birth in childhood's cancers. I
23:23
Speaker 5: certainly wouldn't want my kids.
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Speaker 2: Leave you just want you just brought that up. Can
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Speaker 2: you put some substance to that?
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Speaker 9: I did?
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Speaker 1: That's literally, but what are you quoting that?
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Speaker 3: Literally? Science? Literally?
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Speaker 1: Science on the science?
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Speaker 2: Well, Madigan is in fact scientifically illiterate. I have no
23:42
Speaker 2: idea where this list of thirty six accidents with nuclear
23:45
Speaker 2: power stations is that she mentioned. But the list I
23:47
Speaker 2: see include accidents like rusted pipes or corrosions, usually things
23:54
Speaker 2: that hurt nobody. But yes, there were the two big ones,
23:58
Speaker 2: that disaster that she noble and old Soviet Union that
24:01
Speaker 2: killed about fifty people that we know of, and the
24:03
Speaker 2: Fukushima desires to cause by a mathive massive earthquake and
24:07
Speaker 2: as unami that actually killed not one single person through
24:12
Speaker 2: any radiation leak, although the Japanese government for almost certainly
24:16
Speaker 2: political reasons did pay out a man who later died
24:18
Speaker 2: of lung cancer. But I said, I had bad news
24:22
Speaker 2: for Madigan, who thinks it is so dangerous just to
24:24
Speaker 2: live near a nuclear power station. In fact, you get
24:29
Speaker 2: more radiation from a cuddle. The World Nuclear Association says
24:33
Speaker 2: sleeping next to someone gives us a much higher radiation
24:36
Speaker 2: dose than living close to the nuclear power station, both
24:38
Speaker 2: of which are harmless. In fact, ameriatu's National Institute for
24:42
Speaker 2: Occupational Health and Safety says air crew pilots and stewardesses
24:47
Speaker 2: and whatever what they call now are exposed to more
24:51
Speaker 2: radiation in the year than worker is actually in power plants.
24:54
Speaker 2: So if I were Madigan, I'd stop flying and cuddling
24:57
Speaker 2: if I was that scared of radiation. In fact, you
25:03
Speaker 2: should stop going on TV. TV's also emit radiation, so
25:07
Speaker 2: heaven knows how radiactive radioactive Madigan is given you practically
25:12
Speaker 2: lives surrounded by TVs and plasma screens and all kinds
25:16
Speaker 2: of radiation emitting stuff, which should tell her, actually, d hello,
25:23
Speaker 2: a little radiation is natural and will not kill you
25:27
Speaker 2: at all, So quit it with your so called science.
25:31
Speaker 2: Your book. A booger rants against nuclear Johnmy as Will Shackle,
25:34
Speaker 2: the founder of Nuclear for Australia, will good to see
25:38
Speaker 2: you again. D Madigan seems to be stuck in the
25:41
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, before you were even born. There's no safe
25:44
Speaker 2: radiation in her world. Nuclear power is evil. What is
25:49
Speaker 2: it that she doesn't get?
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Speaker 5: Look the Simpsons isn't science, And when you think of it,
25:54
Speaker 5: in reality, you'd receive more radiation from eating one of
25:58
Speaker 5: these a banana than you would actually living outside a
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Speaker 5: nuclear plant for an entire year. So I don't think
26:05
Speaker 5: cancer is caused by bananas, and cancer is not caused
26:08
Speaker 5: by living near a nuclear plant. Thousands of people living
26:11
Speaker 5: near nuclear plants around the world, So this is just
26:14
Speaker 5: blatant disinformation.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, heaven forbid. If she's eating a banana next
26:20
Speaker 2: to a TV screen the in first class on Quantas,
26:24
Speaker 2: there should be a dead as a doornail by her reckoning.
26:27
Speaker 2: There's been a ferocious anti nuclear campaign now for fifty
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Speaker 2: seventy years so far in Australia. It's been political death
26:36
Speaker 2: for a long time to push nuclear power. What do
26:39
Speaker 2: you think has changed?
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Speaker 5: Look, I think people are waking up to the facts,
26:44
Speaker 5: such as the fact that you are exposed to less
26:46
Speaker 5: radiation from eating a banana than living near a nuclear plant.
26:49
Speaker 5: There are simple facts which prove that nuclear is reliable,
26:52
Speaker 5: that it is clean, that it is safe, and when
26:55
Speaker 5: people realize this, they are more likely to support nuclear energy.
26:59
Speaker 5: That is why I'm majority of Australians now support nuclear energy.
27:02
Speaker 5: That's why over seventy five thousand people have signed my
27:05
Speaker 5: petition to lift the ban on nuclear energy. There is
27:08
Speaker 5: no reason why we should be opposed to nuclear energy
27:11
Speaker 5: and be maintaining this hostile ban on it, except if
27:15
Speaker 5: we're believing the disinformation, like was repeated many many times
27:19
Speaker 5: on Q and A last evening.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that will you probably saw a labor
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Speaker 2: minister Tim Ayres also attacking nuclear power.
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Speaker 6: Here is I'm not as cavalier about nuclear safety and
27:34
Speaker 6: the safety of nuclear reactors as Barnaby is. One of
27:37
Speaker 6: the one of the reasons that posts the Fukushima disaster.
27:41
Speaker 6: The time scale that it's taken to build nuclear reactors
27:46
Speaker 6: overseas has blown out by decades, and the cost for
27:51
Speaker 6: each of these has blown out by tens of billions
27:54
Speaker 6: of dollars. Is countries attending to these safety issues.
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Speaker 2: Again with that Fukushima beat up but will Airs says there.
28:05
Speaker 2: Timia says that the time frame for building a nuclear
28:08
Speaker 2: reactor has blown out by decades as a result. When
28:12
Speaker 2: I just read what was it last month? China has
28:15
Speaker 2: in fact just said it's going to build elever more
28:18
Speaker 2: nuclear power plants in less than five years. Now, how
28:23
Speaker 2: long would it take us if we've got serious, given
28:26
Speaker 2: that we're going from a standing start.
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Speaker 5: So probably not five years, but the best experts suggests
28:31
Speaker 5: it's anywhere between ten and fifteen years for Australia. Now,
28:35
Speaker 5: the UAE went from scratch to having nuclear in around
28:37
Speaker 5: thirteen years, so this isn't unrealistic for Australia to say
28:42
Speaker 5: that we could build it in a good amount of time.
28:44
Speaker 3: The issue is going to be the political ambition.
28:46
Speaker 5: If we want to build nuclear plants in a short
28:48
Speaker 5: amount of time, it is realistic, it is possible. The
28:52
Speaker 5: only issue with the time for nuclear is really just
28:55
Speaker 5: political reasons, and hopefully we wouldn't fall into that mess
28:59
Speaker 5: in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and politicians mounting and their sprookers mounting ludicrous scare
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Speaker 2: campaigns that really should shame them. In fact, they shamed
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Speaker 2: the country if you believe them, will shackle thank you
29:13
Speaker 2: so much, indeed for your time, really appreciate. After the break,
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Speaker 2: how the media is twisting the latest assassination attempt on
29:21
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I saying, well, it's his fault. Probably we'll
29:26
Speaker 2: show you who really is the blay. So Donald Trump
29:34
Speaker 2: became the target of a second assassination attempt this week,
29:37
Speaker 2: the second in two months, and I'm reading the media
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Speaker 2: left go ooh, yeah whatever, or even oh his own fault.
29:48
Speaker 2: To me, it's amazing. USA Today front page the next
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Speaker 2: day after the attempt assassination attempt, a tiny pointer up
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Speaker 2: the top. Trump safe after shots fired, the main story
30:00
Speaker 2: hope in America. The Cincinnati Inquiry tweet's opinion, Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: brings a lot of this stuff on himself. Stuff being
30:10
Speaker 2: the word for a craze government trying to murder the
30:12
Speaker 2: president of the United States, and on our abcs Q
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Speaker 2: and a show. It is quite the show for stupidity. Really,
30:20
Speaker 2: the same dumb assumption that somehow it's Trump's fault, or
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Speaker 2: it's the fault of his running mate jd Vance, or
30:28
Speaker 2: it's the right. Generally, all this hate is the fault
30:31
Speaker 2: of the right.
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Speaker 10: How can we combat the practice of clearly contested but
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Speaker 10: highly contagious rhetoric that's been spread in the US by
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Speaker 10: the likes of JD Vance from coming to Oscaleia.
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Speaker 1: And is there any.
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Speaker 10: Evidence that this is linked to today's assassination attempt on
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Speaker 10: the presidential candidate?
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Speaker 5: JD Vance is the vice presidential nominee for the Republican Party.
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Speaker 5: It's not just a throwaway comment to say that immigrants
31:01
Speaker 5: are eating their people's pets.
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Speaker 6: These things aren't created in Australia.
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Speaker 2: They are created off shore.
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Speaker 6: They are copies of often far right propaganda in other jurisdictions.
31:16
Speaker 2: Right, a guy on the left nearly shut the president.
31:18
Speaker 2: You're talking about the far right. Meanwhile the media is
31:20
Speaker 2: letting himself off the hook. I mean, does it really
31:23
Speaker 2: think if you pump out this Trump arrangement and nobody
31:28
Speaker 2: at all will take them seriously and think, well, if
31:30
Speaker 2: the man really is like Hitler, shooting's too good for him.
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Speaker 1: This is the real hete Donal Trump only cares about himself.
31:37
Speaker 11: This is a populace looking to serve his own interest
31:39
Speaker 11: and horror other people and dismantle our democracy and make
31:43
Speaker 11: it just about himself.
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Speaker 1: This is a guy who's doing it on behas.
31:45
Speaker 8: Put threat that Donald Trump is to this nation all
31:49
Speaker 8: of authoritarian personality in league with autocrats and kleptocrats and
31:53
Speaker 8: dictators all over the world.
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Speaker 2: I could run hours of that stuff. Joining me these
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Speaker 2: regular Boat Report commentator Sean Spice is the first White
32:04
Speaker 2: House spokesman for President Donald Trump. Sean Spice is great
32:08
Speaker 2: to see you again. Do you draw a link between
32:12
Speaker 2: the deranged anti Trump ritoric we've been hearing and these
32:16
Speaker 2: attempts to kill him?
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Speaker 3: I don't think it takes too much to to intimate
32:22
Speaker 3: that some nut job on the left is going to
32:25
Speaker 3: hear the leaders of their party and their movements say
32:28
Speaker 3: we need to you know that there's a threat, and
32:31
Speaker 3: obviously that the instinct is then to get rid of
32:35
Speaker 3: that threat. And that's what we've seen now twice is
32:37
Speaker 3: people who decide that they need to get rid of
32:40
Speaker 3: the threat that the left says. They post and for
32:42
Speaker 3: all to talk Andrew about Donald Trump in the language
32:46
Speaker 3: he uses, he calls people's names, there's no question about
32:49
Speaker 3: it none. But there's a big difference between the language
32:54
Speaker 3: of the left, which is that people are a threat
32:56
Speaker 3: to democracy, to the existential nature of our country that
33:00
Speaker 3: requires and inspires people to take action.
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Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely correct. I mean, we still don't
33:07
Speaker 2: know what's going through this guy. He had a few
33:09
Speaker 2: screws loose, obviously.
33:11
Speaker 11: But.
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Speaker 2: You can't pump that out there and not expect someone
33:14
Speaker 2: to take it seriously. Struck by the refusal of the
33:18
Speaker 2: left to accept that almost every serious assassination attempt and
33:22
Speaker 2: one of your presidents or candidates in my lifetime has
33:25
Speaker 2: come from the left. Sean, You've had two attacks on Trump,
33:29
Speaker 2: this one by a Democrat donor and Trump Hayter. You
33:32
Speaker 2: had Ronald Reagan okay shop by another. You had Robert
33:35
Speaker 2: Kennedy was killed by a Palestinian activist. You had John F.
33:39
Speaker 2: Kennedy by a far left IT soldier. I mean, why
33:44
Speaker 2: the denial that when it comes to political violence, you've
33:47
Speaker 2: got to look left before you look right.
33:50
Speaker 3: Well, because it's an inconvenient reality that you're pointing out.
33:55
Speaker 3: The left wants to talk about all of the issues
33:57
Speaker 3: that exist, but when it comes to the keeping their
34:00
Speaker 3: own house in order, they don't want to look there right.
34:03
Speaker 3: It doesn't go with the narrative. Not just that, but
34:05
Speaker 3: they have a media that is complicit in this. And
34:08
Speaker 3: when these things happen. I remember I was at the
34:10
Speaker 3: White House when that softball incident occurred where the Bernie
34:14
Speaker 3: Sanders supporter tried to mode down all those Republican congressmen
34:18
Speaker 3: on the baseball field, and it was Steve Scaleze that
34:22
Speaker 3: ended up in the hospital. I went there with President
34:24
Speaker 3: Trump that night, and immediately the left put out calls
34:27
Speaker 3: to say, we can't let's not look to make this political,
34:29
Speaker 3: let's not blame anybody. They want to blame everyone every
34:32
Speaker 3: single day. They want to motivate their base and fire
34:35
Speaker 3: them up with this rhetoric. But then when they do something,
34:38
Speaker 3: they don't want anyone pointing back at them to be
34:40
Speaker 3: part of the solution or the excuse, because that's just
34:43
Speaker 3: the hypocrisy that they live in every single day. But
34:45
Speaker 3: it's you know, this goes back to what we've talked
34:48
Speaker 3: about in the past with Kamala Harris in general. When
34:51
Speaker 3: you know that there's not going to be accountability, you
34:53
Speaker 3: can get away with it. And that's kind of what
34:55
Speaker 3: they do in so many circumstances in our culture and
34:58
Speaker 3: our society here in America right now.
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Speaker 2: You also had Time magazine in denial, les Sean, I'm
35:04
Speaker 2: just looking at it here where they said, you know,
35:07
Speaker 2: it's this guy, this fifty eight year old shooter want
35:12
Speaker 2: to be shooter, had an unclear political ideology. And yet
35:16
Speaker 2: when you have a look at the sticker on the
35:18
Speaker 2: back of his pickup, you've got a Biden Harris elections
35:24
Speaker 2: sticker there. I mean, what's going.
35:27
Speaker 3: On here, Well, there's two things in the press that
35:30
Speaker 3: are happening, right, So it's not just the sticker. You
35:32
Speaker 3: look at his political donations. All of his donations are
35:35
Speaker 3: to folks on the left right. This guy, his tweets,
35:39
Speaker 3: his social media accounts, his actions, his interviews with the media.
35:43
Speaker 3: He clearly not just had a problem with the right,
35:44
Speaker 3: but with Donald Trump specifically. Again, this gets back to
35:47
Speaker 3: the inconvenient reality that are media faces. They know that
35:51
Speaker 3: they are complicit in allowing this language to happen. They
35:55
Speaker 3: don't want to call out Kamala Harris or most of
35:58
Speaker 3: the folks on the left, whether it's Maxim Waters the
36:00
Speaker 3: congress from from Los Angeles, Chuck Schumer, or the Senate
36:03
Speaker 3: Majority leader, the Democratic Senate Majority leader. It doesn't They
36:06
Speaker 3: don't want to highlight it, they don't want to call
36:08
Speaker 3: it out. But here's the funny thing. It goes beyond that.
36:10
Speaker 3: You had Lester Holt, the evening anchor for NBC News,
36:15
Speaker 3: sort of like saying, well, you know, Trump's own rhetoric
36:18
Speaker 3: brings this down, and that's the other thing that you're
36:20
Speaker 3: seeing over and over again now on the left. Well,
36:22
Speaker 3: Trump kind of asked for it, right, I mean, he
36:24
Speaker 3: uses this language. He's incendiary, he's pugnacious, and therefore, you know,
36:28
Speaker 3: he kind of deserves it is what they're getting at,
36:30
Speaker 3: which is absolutely, in one hundred percent ridiculous. The idea that,
36:35
Speaker 3: no matter how outrageous and repugnant you might find Donald Trump,
36:39
Speaker 3: that violence is ever a solution that you find acceptable
36:43
Speaker 3: or or can explain is so wrong and it's amazing
36:48
Speaker 3: that these guys try to excuse it in some way.
36:50
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's it's one unbelievable continuum from the
36:54
Speaker 3: medium here today. It's either here's why it's okay, or hey,
36:58
Speaker 3: we're going to kind of try to mix it up
37:00
Speaker 3: so it can't blame the left.
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Speaker 2: What do you think this is going to do to
37:05
Speaker 2: the election campaign? It was incredible. The bullet that clipped
37:08
Speaker 2: Trump's ear had a sort of effect, I think for
37:12
Speaker 2: about two weeks and then disappeared. Now this is back
37:16
Speaker 2: in the political news. Not if you have a look
37:19
Speaker 2: at USA today, of course it's Bailey ready mentioned on
37:22
Speaker 2: the front page. But will this have an effect on
37:25
Speaker 2: the election?
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, think about how sad
37:30
Speaker 3: that is, though you have the second assassination attempt on
37:34
Speaker 3: the leading candidate for president in two months, and I
37:38
Speaker 3: will bet you dollars to donuts, as we like to say,
37:41
Speaker 3: or used to say, I don't know that it's relevant
37:43
Speaker 3: anymore with the cost of donuts and the Biden economy
37:47
Speaker 3: that it's not even going to make the top five
37:49
Speaker 3: stories on the morning news tomorrow. It's sad. I thought
37:53
Speaker 3: about this Andrew today. But because we talk about this
37:56
Speaker 3: in terms of the political realities of this, which is
37:59
Speaker 3: important with it when you're fifty days out of an election,
38:01
Speaker 3: it's obviously extremely important. Normally this would be huge, right
38:05
Speaker 3: the first one was big, and that got washed away.
38:06
Speaker 3: I think because the shots didn't get fired, the media
38:09
Speaker 3: is going to downplay this even more. But I thought
38:12
Speaker 3: about this from a personal standpoint. I was with President
38:15
Speaker 3: Trump a week ago. I asked him how the ear
38:17
Speaker 3: was and he showed me it looked great. I can't
38:21
Speaker 3: personally fathom what it would be like to have one
38:24
Speaker 3: assassination attempt, but to know what happened again, and that
38:27
Speaker 3: you know you've got the Iranians and others out there
38:30
Speaker 3: plotting to do it even more. I can't imagine what
38:33
Speaker 3: that does to your mental health. And yet he gets
38:35
Speaker 3: up every day and it almost makes him stronger and
38:39
Speaker 3: more resilient and strengthens his resolve. I got to tell you,
38:45
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine the personal mental fortitude that it
38:48
Speaker 3: takes to do what he's doing. I don't know that
38:52
Speaker 3: I could even come close to handling that. The idea
38:54
Speaker 3: of not having it happen once but twice in that
38:57
Speaker 3: short of a period. It's just got to play a
39:00
Speaker 3: mental toll that I can't fathom right now.
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Speaker 2: I would have hoped, Sean, I noticed it didn't occur
39:06
Speaker 2: to you, because it probably won't happen, that the media
39:09
Speaker 2: will now tone down. It's a rhetoric on Donald Trump
39:14
Speaker 2: being a threat to democracy everywhere. But we shall see.
39:17
Speaker 2: Sean Spice is always good to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: Pleasure Andrew.
39:23
Speaker 2: Coming up. Prime Minister Anthony alban Eazy makes a threat
39:26
Speaker 2: he can't keep as the screws tighten after this. The
39:34
Speaker 2: Prime Minister today threatened to call an early election if
39:37
Speaker 2: the Greens in the opposition kept blocking his legislation in Parliament,
39:41
Speaker 2: blocking things like his Nature Positive Bill more green tape,
39:45
Speaker 2: but not enough of it, says the Greens, and also
39:49
Speaker 2: has helped to buy schemes to supposedly help First Home
39:51
Speaker 2: Bus get into the property market. Now block things twice,
39:56
Speaker 2: things like that that gives Alban Eazi the trigger for
39:59
Speaker 2: a double the solution that's an election for both houses
40:03
Speaker 2: apartment a legal trigger to call an election. He talked
40:07
Speaker 2: tough on that today, even though the latest poll shows
40:10
Speaker 2: that if he did do that, he might actually lose.
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you a way to avoid at d D.
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Speaker 7: It's for the Coalition and the Greens to vote for
40:21
Speaker 7: legislation that they support. There's nothing in the legislation on
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Speaker 7: the Nature Positive Act that they say they're opposed to joining.
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Speaker 2: Mere Will Kingston, host at Will the podcast from the
40:34
Speaker 2: Spectator in politics and culture, and Damien Kourry, a corporate
40:38
Speaker 2: communications consultant and host of his own video podcast. The
40:41
Speaker 2: other sides have plenty of alternative viewing. For you, Damien,
40:46
Speaker 2: it's my golden rule never to make a threat unless
40:48
Speaker 2: you intend to keep it. Is this threat of an
40:51
Speaker 2: early election serious?
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Speaker 12: No, it's an absolute nonsense bluff. I think Andrew and
40:58
Speaker 12: He couldn't possibly go to an earlier this year. He'd
41:00
Speaker 12: look absolutely weak and desperate. I think it's good to
41:04
Speaker 12: see him attacking the Greens though on their hypocrisy. There's
41:07
Speaker 12: plenty to attack there. But I think Peter Dutton can win.
41:10
Speaker 12: You know, if there's an election soon, he would be
41:14
Speaker 12: in a very very strong position to win, provided he
41:17
Speaker 12: listens to the Australians that really matter. And the Australians
41:20
Speaker 12: that really matter, of course are the people in the
41:22
Speaker 12: rural and regional Australia, people in the outer suburbs of
41:25
Speaker 12: our cities. If he listens to the inner city woke
41:28
Speaker 12: within his own party also the moderates, then will he
41:32
Speaker 12: will probably lose. But it's going to take some wrestling
41:35
Speaker 12: on Dutton's part to stay strong and to be able
41:38
Speaker 12: to continue to take a strong stance on certain issues
41:42
Speaker 12: and to fight those forces around him because he's surrounded
41:44
Speaker 12: with inner city types. I mean, that's who who the
41:46
Speaker 12: political or elite are made up of.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, But we'll go to a point, you know,
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Speaker 2: you don't make a threat in particularly politics unless you
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Speaker 2: tend to keep it. Because in this case, the Greens
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Speaker 2: were really laughing at him. I'm saying, really, really, and
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Speaker 2: if you don't follow through, you look weak.
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Speaker 11: No popular governments never played this card, Andrew let alone
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Speaker 11: unpopular ones. I think the truth of this government is
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Speaker 11: that they have never recovered from the voice Albanezy looks
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Speaker 11: like a diminished figure. He looks like he's never recovered
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Speaker 11: from the voice. They don't have a rais on Detra
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Speaker 11: and so they just fall back on these common left
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Speaker 11: wing tropes at the moment, like policing misinformation, like climate
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Speaker 11: virtue signaling, like social justice ideology, because they're either afraid
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Speaker 11: or incapable of the serious reform of this country needs.
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Speaker 3: I disagree.
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Speaker 11: I don't think that. I think they probably will win
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Speaker 11: the next election, but they'll win with a reduced majority,
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Speaker 11: or alternatively, they'll go into minority government, so you won't
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Speaker 11: see any reform in a minority government situation. That'll be
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Speaker 11: six more year years of wasted time in this country.
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Speaker 11: Add that on to the time that we saw when
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Speaker 11: not much was done under the Coalition and Labor before them,
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Speaker 11: and you really quickly realize that not much it's been
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Speaker 11: done around systemic structural reform since Howard. I just worry
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Speaker 11: that we are just in stasis at the moment, and
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Speaker 11: it's I think it's quite sad to watch.
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Speaker 2: I think if Labor does so return needing to have
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Speaker 2: the Greens to support almost everything it does, that would
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Speaker 2: be an absolute cancer on Labor and would kill it
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Speaker 2: for a long long time after that. Now, what I
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Speaker 2: don't understand, Damien, is why the opposition isn't making a
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Speaker 2: bigger fuss about the Abnezi governments. Another bill that it
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Speaker 2: has a misinformation Bill or disinformation bill, more laws to
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Speaker 2: censor what it calls misinformation or disinformation on the internet. Now, yes,
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Speaker 2: the few you know coalition people are saying things, but
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Speaker 2: it's not a main area of attack for the government.
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Speaker 2: Way is that.
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Speaker 12: Because they're not listening or because they actually support the
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Speaker 12: misinformation bill?
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Speaker 2: I mean you've got to ask the question.
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Speaker 12: I mean, David Coleman is the Shadow Minister for Communications.
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Speaker 12: He is a moderate and he has decided that he's
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Speaker 12: going to look at the detail in the bill. And
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Speaker 12: we don't want to say anything yet because it hasn't
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Speaker 12: gone through shadow Cabinet and we've got to buy our time.
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Speaker 12: Be very careful about this.
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Speaker 2: No, you don't. People oppose this bill based on the
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Speaker 2: core values.
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Speaker 12: The absolute overarching message of this bill and the intent
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Speaker 12: of this bill is to quash our free speech. And
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Speaker 12: I tweeted out something on the other day, Andrew, I've never.
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Speaker 2: Had a response like it.
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Speaker 1: Four thousand likes, a thousand retweets.
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Speaker 12: I don't get that kind of thing on Twitter. I've
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Speaker 12: got twenty seven thousand followers. I don't normally get that
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Speaker 12: sort of reaction. But what was interesting about the comments
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Speaker 12: was that they weren't saying condemning the government. They were
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Speaker 12: condemning the opposition for not opposing strongly enough. So there
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Speaker 12: is a sentiment out there saying, look, we need to
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Speaker 12: hear some opposition on this.
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Speaker 2: You're describing almost one of the s of the Morrison government.
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Speaker 2: But will you know this whole thing goes to the
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Speaker 2: government's fear of free speech. I mentioned at the top
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Speaker 2: of the show how it refuse even to let Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hansom have a first reading of a bill to change
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Speaker 2: the definitive gender to how it once was biological men,
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Speaker 2: biological women. It's first unheard of to stop debates that
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Speaker 2: what is going on with this government.
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Speaker 11: I don't think it's this government, Andrew. I think it
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Speaker 11: is the modern left. The aversion to freedom and to
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Speaker 11: free speech has been something Whi's been consistent now for
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Speaker 11: over thirty years on the left of politics. And I'm
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Speaker 11: one of those people that Damian mentioned. I'm more annoyed
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Speaker 11: with the right in Australia because they should be the
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Speaker 11: ones who should be defending individual freedoms and civil liberties
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Speaker 11: and they're not. I think the Liberal Party needs to
45:43
Speaker 11: give up on being called the Liberal Party. They should
45:45
Speaker 11: just rebrand as the Conservatives because they've given up on
45:48
Speaker 11: classical liberalism. The broad church that Menzies built and that
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Speaker 11: how are then refined, is unfortunately no longer holding together.
45:56
Speaker 11: It's no longer holding together and as a result, you
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Speaker 11: too will excuse me, mate, I'm speaking so you are
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Speaker 11: services sorry. They need to either take a firm stance
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Speaker 11: say right, we need to go back to a position
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Speaker 11: where we embrace classical liberalism and individual freedoms. Unfortunately does
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Speaker 11: and sees that as a minor irritant, and I think
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Speaker 11: it's a real shame for the right of politics in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's been an in decline for a long time.
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Speaker 2: But I have to say, and I'm going to give
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Speaker 2: pitted up in some points sometimes it's been a little
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Speaker 2: late to the party. But for instance on the voice,
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Speaker 2: you know he is standing up for stuff in a
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Speaker 2: way that the conservative liberals have not done for a long, long,
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Speaker 2: long long time. But something else, Damian, I need to
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Speaker 2: give an update on my shocking story last night of
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Speaker 2: how the ABC doctor video shot by Unit A Special
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Speaker 2: Forces soldiers to make their leader, the leader of the squad,
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Speaker 2: Headson Russell, seeing a war criminal shooting at unarmed civilians
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Speaker 2: rather than armed combatants. The ABC now admits there was
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Speaker 2: an error without explaining or apologize, and what to show
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Speaker 2: us was how the ABC changed footage of Russell's unit
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Speaker 2: firing a warning shot a one Afghan man that's seen
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Speaker 2: shooting at them into firing six shots. The ABC said,
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Speaker 2: we're at unarmed civilians.
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Speaker 12: Look, we don't have the vision that comes immediately before this,
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Speaker 12: but this is straight insult.
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Speaker 2: But this afternoon Russell has released an other footage shown
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Speaker 2: on the ABC seven thirty report, which appears to turn
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Speaker 2: six shots into even more than added more shots in
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Speaker 2: post production. A real gunfight. But the audio this time
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Speaker 2: is very soft of listen for it and.
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Speaker 3: You get away and trying to avoid being shot.
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Speaker 1: There's no apparent engagement from the ground that Pitt the.
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Speaker 2: By Damian Curry used to work at the ABC. How
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Speaker 2: should it react to this apparent scandal.
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Speaker 12: Well, it should apologize first of all for being so
47:54
Speaker 12: biased and for being off charter. But I mean, the
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Speaker 12: ABC's problem is cultural Andrew.
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Speaker 2: It's deep. It's not on the surface.
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Speaker 12: It comes out on the surface and these sorts of stories,
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Speaker 12: but it's right through the whole organization and it needs
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Speaker 12: organizational cultural change to fix, which is I'm not sure
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Speaker 12: as possible. It might need to be radically reformed or
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Speaker 12: defunded for.
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Speaker 2: That to occur. Well, I think reform. I think should
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Speaker 2: be sold off. I think the idea of it being
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Speaker 2: neutral is lost cause. Either sold off or make a
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Speaker 2: determined effort to harden people like YouTube. Gentlemen, thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for your Tom Willkinston and Damien Kurry. That's
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Speaker 2: it for me. Coming up next Sherry Markson for me.
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Speaker 2: Good night,