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Wrestling Omakase #264: STARDOM to the World, NOAH N-1 Victory Night 1, DG 9/4 Korakuen & AJPW Oudou Tournament Quarterfinals w/ Milo · Wrestling Omakase

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go, so let's go, oh say we'll keep it to the ground To the ground, we'll take it to the ground We'll take it to the ground, we'll take it to the ground
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[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back to a wrestling Oma Kase.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It is episode number 264.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this week, I am pleased rejoined by, I think, the first time Oma Kase, I don't think we've ever done this particular podcast before, but obviously we used to do another podcast a very long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's my
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know it's your first time on the voice of wrestling network and what like eight years or something, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Feels like a lifetime ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just I sort of when I was thinking of like who I wanted to have a guest in September, I like I saw first of all, I just saw Drangy and on Japan both on this week.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, Oh, well, my little definitely watches both of those.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, Oh, that would be kind of cool to finally do a podcast with my little again after after all this time, because for people who don't know, we used to host open the voice gate together, along with, of course case and Michael, do a great job.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But to the
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we were the originals.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What was me, you in case to start, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then Mike came on later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, honestly, I had been so long and my brain is getting Swiss cheese.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I feel like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like we were the original three and then Mike came on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't be wrong on that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, you know, so so usually like I was saying off the air, you tend to start these, you know, with like goofy side talk or whatever, but I just feel like the really bad news we got a few days ago probably has to start the episode and you know, it's going to start on a very somber note.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I think a lot of people were dreading and we're a lot of us, I think, were really worried about when we heard how serious this incident was, you know, did come to pass on, I believe they officially passed on September 7th in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: you know, I believe it's only like eight months in risk career or something like that when this when this act horrible accident happened and he's been in the hospital since June and unfortunately passed away, which is you know, just horror thick news to find out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Again, I think it's something
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know anyone who had followed the story was worried.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We would hear eventually just because he, you know, just when someone's been in the ICU for that long It kind of is in your undermind that that could happen, but I think this is kind of what we are all dreading But Yeah, really really incredibly sad news 21 years old is just That's that's barely a life and you know just before anything it before anything else before obviously the incredible potential we showed in the ring
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, his charisma, his fire, you know, he was a human being and deserved to live a full life and just incredibly sad to see him cut down that cut down that young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, it was going to be his birthday next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And his debut anniversary coming up on the 22nd of October.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can I just I can't even process like it's been a little over like maybe 36 hours of some things since the news dropped and I
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even I don't even I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's horrific, horrific.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and we've we've seen a lot of all Japan wrestlers reacting to it in the last day too, which is really you know, originally sat even wrestlers not in all Japan currently like, you know, hardly Jackson was devastated that I got to gotten the known when he was still with all Japan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, it's just it seems like everybody loved this kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was, this is something that I, I, I noticed is that not only, you know, the roster in all Japan obviously adored him, you know, he was the little brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was the, the, the, the, the baby of the, of the bunch and, you know, Mia Harau is always taking him out to eat, um, Hiddek is Suzuki called him his senpai because Nagawa joined all Japan before he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, all that kind of stuff, and then you also have the visitors, Zion posted a beautiful tribute to Nagau on both his Twitter and Instagram about how close they got in like brothers and Lord Crew who was over for the champion carnival last year commented on his posts about how Nagau was still a training when he was there, but he was already like so such a bright presence to be around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's just devastating that absolutely devastating.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's, there's a lot of of conflicting reports about what exactly happened and what exactly the All-Japan roster knew and all that kind of stuff and to me, I don't really think it's responsible to get into that until we get more clarity on this, what happened?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They, yeah, this is something that has been weighing on my mind for the end of the past day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a lot of people suspecting all kinds of things and I would just love for all of them to remember that like there's a family that is bereaved, that is grieving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole group of people who have been thrust into a situation of just an impossible emotional turmoil to get through
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, can we please just show some fucking, like, respect for maybe, like, everything?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I think I think ultimately, I think what what happened will, you know, we'll get the full story eventually and I think it's, you know, I think even one of the articles I saw said the police are, you know, going to investigate and that's good, you know, they obviously
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, whatever, whatever the real story is, I think we'll eventually get it, but, you know, right now, like I said, it's a lot of conflicting stories.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's like a Dave Meltzer has an account that I assume he's getting directly from, you know, some of the foreign wrestlers, but like, I don't know, you see, we've seen enough would Japanese wrestling over the years, I think, to see that, you know, sometimes the foreign wrestlers don't even have the whole story or,
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[SPEAKER_05]: sometimes stuff gets lost in the game of telephone.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't really want to go into what Melts are reported.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just think like you know it's it's just so recent and so you know we should let things set a little bit before we you know get into what actually well who knows where I actually happened I guess so we'll have to wait and say I guess but um
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I mean, right now to me, the story is just this incredible tragedy, however it did happen, you know, to lose someone so young, you know, with so much potential, such a young age and just, you know, is very, very tragic, whatever happened and I think they will.
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[SPEAKER_05]: you know, I hope they do get to the bottom of what happened, but it's just another, unfortunately, this is not the first time a very young person has passed away, you know, in a Japanese promotion, and you know, this one's far more of a freak accident.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It sounds like compared to, you know, some of the other ones that happen due to, you know, dojo abuse.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, it's just to,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is, I guess, the darker side of the, you know, the Japanese dojo system is just, you know, when they lose these kids, you know, it's very, very tragic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, oh my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even make sense of it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, is there anything else you wanted to say about a about Haitian?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think just again, he was someone who helped such a light about him from everything that I personally saw of him in the ring, but also all of the accounts of the people who knew him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which really seems to be the big through line of what everybody has to say about him how how much of a joy he was to be around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like 21 years old, it's just not it's not fucking fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, he should have had his career, but most importantly, he really should have had his life to live, you know?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we're all helping, like even if he couldn't, you know, continue as a wrestler, that at least he would get to continue, you know, continue his life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's really any even greater tragedy, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, just I think, you know, you try to find any, any things to hold on to in these situations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I really just want people to remember what a bright presence he was and how they have an impact on everybody who knew him and that's everyone obviously who worked with him, but I saw so many messages from fans who were inspired and touched by his determination,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that's how he should be kind of remembered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I only got to see him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I did see him wrestle in person one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was just looking at the card to make sure he was in a. He was in a 10 man tag at the championing part of all open.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I went to back on April 9th this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it just did surreal to think like, you know, I'm going to be back in Japan the end of the year and just.
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[SPEAKER_05]: showed all Japan shows he's not going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, he had that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, again, just to, you know, not obviously the rest in careers, the secondary thing here, but he had that amazing match with Kendo.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not that long before this happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he had them out because he did a challenge series and he
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I guess his last match was also his first singles victory.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Wow, that was great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Charlie forgot about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, against Shota Kofuji from OSW, that was at the finals of the champion carnival last year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, out of word.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because that was May 18th, and apparently the accident happened on their preparing the tour bus to go to Sendai, which was the first show, the following tour on June 1st.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's his first first victory and I think that's just how I want to remember him, you know, victorious.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, it's just so weird to think that we basically saw his entire career.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they'll never be another, another match, but yeah, I don't know, just incredibly, I mean, every single level, incredibly tragic and you know, it's family.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure it's just struggling to when it's especially when something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, seemingly so random happens, you know, it must be incredibly devastating.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, what of, you know, I just tried this was a, this was more of a health thing than an accident, but like when, what of my close friends, um, died really suddenly in his 30s, um, you know, it just was a complete freak thing, like nobody knew we had any health problems at all.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just kind of had a stroke and died out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the, the shock of the shock on everyone,
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually somebody who appeared on the show, Sean Williams, I should mention, but yeah, the shock and the incident just like weighs on you the most because you're not, you know, you have this just incredibly sudden death, where you're not expecting anything like that to have and where is it, you know, somebody's older or somebody.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's sick for a while.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's still tragic, but it's something you're much more mentally prepared for than just someone suddenly dying like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And like, you know, the grief of the family must be going through just must be insane right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But keeping everybody in my thoughts and like keeping him in my thoughts and I just hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hope everybody will be all right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we have to transition out a gas to something else, but you know, there's not there was no other way to start the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's just such a such a tragedy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I learned that I guess how are things going with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, they're kind of tired of living through major historical events.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's a reason why may you be, may you live an interesting time was an ancient Chinese curse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, our government got dismantled again today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's fun, but yeah, all of the time that I've been good, you know, I've just been working, I'm working at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, shop these days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just living with my cats, you know, I think this is the future that everybody envisioned for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Technically, I'm also, I, I'm working right now, but which I should have mentioned before we started recording that if, if somebody could technically cut me off and I'll let you know, but, but yeah, I mean, you know, I have one of those fake email jobs that everybody I think kind of wants.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully, hopefully nobody bothers me while we're recording.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I mean, I just got back from a really whirlwind weekend
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[SPEAKER_05]: where I went to two baseball games and also a W collision at the time even 100 arena, which was an experience.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I don't want to do a big long review of it or anything, because we just did a big long a W review on last week's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The only thing I'll say is,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was not like a great experience, even though I liked a lot of the wrestling on the shell, like there was this job moxie versus down with our CMS.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was quite good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There was a well, I thought to Keshita versus Mark Brisco was kind of underwhelming actually.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, moxie versus Garcia was really the in-ring highlight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the the tag match FTR against Adam Priest and God, who the fuck was his partner the new the new dynamite kid can that I can't remember his name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Billings and something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Billington yeah something like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yes, the new the new dynamite kid and Adam priest for Zepture that was good to.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so there's a good wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just it's also had I don't have you ever been to an American wrestling TV table here now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I actually had an opportunity to go when I was in Scotland last month, but I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, I don't, I don't really recommend it because it's like you end up looking at a tiny, well, especially in the, in the east of your arena.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like this tiny little, this tiny little screen right about the ring and during all these like backstage and yet some backstage interviews, you're just staring at the screen and it's like, I don't, like, when they're actually in the ring, it was kind of entertaining, but like just watching the screen for half a night gets really, really old.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a taping, but I was of the first all in in London.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like the venue was so big and we were so far that I ended up also watching the screen all night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not really for me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not really my thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then on top of that day, they set up the building.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's actually a little hard to describe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So 23rd of rain, you probably seen on TV before.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very small building.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And when you usually when you walk in, so there's, you know, yeah, we said the four sides of the ring, usually when you walk in, you can get to the opposite side from either direction.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, because usually the other promotions will let you cut through the entranceway.
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[SPEAKER_05]: or the country, the IOA, the entrance as long as there's not a entrance currently happening.
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[SPEAKER_05]: AW did not let AW did not lay in when do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So instead of having two ways to get to the other side, we'd have a course where my tickets were.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You could only have the one way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that one way became incredibly like crammed and claustrophobic, even when you would normally be able to pass through there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then as I found out when I got up to, you know,
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[SPEAKER_05]: But like I got up during commercial break, they actually closed off the entire IOA until all the wrestlers in the next match are made their entrance, which in this case was like an eight woman tag, and I was like, why the fuck when they let anyone walk through here?
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[SPEAKER_05]: As I found out, it's because they decided they had to keep this one diagonal aisle like clear.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So some guy could take the women's entrance skier to the back of that exact moment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he couldn't, like, in the heat plenty of room to move even if people moved past him, because that was a one part that wasn't, like, super, you know, hard to move through.
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[SPEAKER_05]: For some reason, they decided this entire area had to be completely clear for this man to walk through the entrance skier for a reason that I cannot understand.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So your first step against this wall, you have people like on either side of you like a chair and front of you and the person standing against the wall on the other side and then you're like why can't we go and then the people standing behind me could not see that we were in blocks so they're basically yelling at me like to move and like what are you doing and they're blocked we can't move and they can't hear me over the edge of the music so it's like this whole thing and then finally after like 10 fucking minutes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They find a lot of people get back to the state.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, whatever, take this set up to block the entire, like, that sounds highly impractical.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like running this TV taping and like wanting it to be, like super fucking professional, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this tiny little bingo hall just did not work.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know, because very, very bad set up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I would never return to it if they do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If they do this like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, if they do this TV taping residency again, because just not a good experience between the random being blocked off to get back to my scene and watching most of the show on a tiny old TV screen, I just didn't like enjoy myself.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, and I don't really like, and I don't really like any of that much anyway, but my friend really wanted to go, so I just kind of did it for him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it just wasn't wasn't that enjoyable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But at least my baseball team went one in one at least so that was okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know anything about baseball, but I do see you crashing out about it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, because the blue jays were not supposed to be good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then they were very good and now they're blowing it at the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's very frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So they have a two game lead in the division and there's like three weeks off.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So they have plenty of time to finish losing this lead basically.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's, I'm just, I have to cross the fingers at this point.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They beat in the Yankees two out of three at least over the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It would have been better, but they instead only won one out of three.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now they're a very precarious position.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I hope it all goes well and probably won't, but we'll say the pitching has gotten very bad, which is not you can't do you don't have good pitching and baseball you're not going to go very far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So okay, yeah, this I can understand, you know, I don't I don't watch any sports that aren't wrestling, but my best friend is a huge new castle united fan and he's also been going through it.
22:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, they, they're not having to get start to the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're, yeah, just they're like, I think they're best striker left for Liverpool and then they had, like, they were struggling to sign people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, looks, I just looked at there results so far.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It does not look good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like they drew twice and lost to Liverpool already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was there when my house was happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it experienced.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my, my, my, my, my, primarily teams after can start though.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Chelsea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is if I know anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I only know about Newcastle because of my friend and kind of arsenal because of 14 Ashino and that's it's
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[SPEAKER_05]: Our still left.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it looks like Liverpool is three of them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Chelsea is, well, you guys say two one and now we would say two one one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's so weird.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Premier League puts, it goes wind rod loss in like every American sport.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It goes wind loss draw.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you guys, you guys would say two one and now I guess you're up in general because I think I think all the European links do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we would say two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you would say two one and now we would say two one and now we would say two one one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but yeah, our song also has two wins and one loss so far.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I guess as she knows let's be okay with that start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they're doing better than he is.
23:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Manchester United is one one and one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And also got eliminated hilariously early in the EFL cup or whatever that thing is called.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but yeah, hopefully the blue jays can like somehow hold on to this divisionly the rest of the rest of the month before the playoff start, but I just not very helpful.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have been crashing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have been crashing on a lot on Twitter, but you're definitely right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I keep my fingers crossed with them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if it helps, we never went anything.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So like the last time, the jays of one, the last time the jays won a World Series was like 93, I think.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So 92 and 93 back to back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it was a, yeah, it's a long, like I wasn't even watching at the time.
24:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So that was obviously very, very young.
24:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was not born.
24:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
24:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I was alive, but just too young, too young to appreciate the blue jays at the time.
24:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you, you see, okay, this was such a big story, even you might have seen this.
24:53
[SPEAKER_05]: The, the Philly's fan who, like, stole the baseball from the kid.
24:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there's like, oh, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It was tennis.
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It was tennis.
25:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So I tennis one and I vaguely heard of the baseball on, but in both cases, uh, I mean, the baseball one is particularly insane to me because besides the fact that, like, okay, you're a grown woman who cares this much about a baseball, it's, it's normal etiquette, even if even if he hadn't gotten the ball, it's normal etiquette at baseball game to just give your ball to a kid.
25:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, even I know that.
25:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the only time I ever caught a foul of foul ball was that a a Blue Jay's game in Toronto and the ball literally bounced right to me.
25:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So I got to hold it for a second like this is cool and some little kid directly across the aisle from me was like look at that.
25:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean I was like here you go kid because that's what you're supposed to do.
25:57
[SPEAKER_05]: That's supposed to, and then please, so this woman not only like,
26:01
[SPEAKER_05]: didn't let the kid have it.
26:02
[SPEAKER_05]: She chased down the dad as he's hugging his child and like scares the shit out of him because he's not looking in a direction at all and like demands the ball back.
26:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, what?
26:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if you're a full grown adult, what are you going to do with this ball?
26:16
[SPEAKER_05]: That's so fucking important.
26:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's just a fucking baseball.
26:19
[SPEAKER_05]: It means you really should not mean that much to you.
26:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you just want to take the child and like make the whole year.
26:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and she got like booed so heavily by all the fans around her.
26:34
[SPEAKER_02]: She left it like 10 minutes later apparently, but She should never show her face there again
26:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's very, very bizarre, it all kind of worked out for the kid anyway, because the kid, like the Marlins, the team, the Philly's are playing Dave from like a prize pack, and then on top of that, he got to go down and meet, meet the player, hit the home run.
26:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's cool.
26:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like the player signed a back form.
27:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very sweet.
27:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
27:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's nice that they did something for the nine year old child that this woman like
27:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, before that, it's kind of been like scarring and then said they turned it to a nice little moment.
27:17
[SPEAKER_05]: So that was cool.
27:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Did have a had a happy ending, I guess, except for the fact that this woman still has the ball.
27:26
[SPEAKER_05]: But she's probably just come forward to be like, okay, you know what, I did ask pretty crazy.
27:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's the space ball back
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you going to do?
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, embarrassing for her.
27:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that the tennis one I think did have anything like that with a guy did the guy claimed he didn't realize the kid was there and we're supposed to get the hat and did apparently get the get the hat.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy turned out to be like the CEO of some bullshit company and like was threatening to sue people, but like we all saw you.
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We all saw you do it.
28:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I think he, I think he, I think he never went in and gave the kid that I think is what I heard.
28:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I don't know if he'll be wrong, but that's weird.
28:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if like people, people kind of don't know how to act anymore in public a lot of the time I feel like.
28:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what it is, but that's very true.
28:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know, it's like your full grown adult, you should not be taking, taking items away from children, that's sporting events.
28:30
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like insane behavior.
28:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's a sociopath now.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking crazy.
28:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It really feels like it, right?
28:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I don't know, like you see that, not even just like smaller things, where you see like people just start berating like service workers all the time now in public.
28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: at all.
28:52
[SPEAKER_05]: It's very weird.
28:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let's get into the wrestling.
29:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So the first show I wanted to talk about was the start into the world show on this past September 6.
29:10
[SPEAKER_05]: That was only a couple of days ago.
29:11
[SPEAKER_05]: This past Saturday that did a announced crowd of
29:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so this is, I would have pretty good crowd for that, but at the Yoke on Buddha, apparently there's second highest attendance ever in the building after only the 2023, five star GP finals.
29:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, did it cool crowd there.
29:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I know you don't watch a ton of start, I'm right, it's in my correct.
29:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't, unfortunately.
29:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So it'll be interesting to get some of your thoughts here as like a newer slash casual viewer, I guess.
29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know I really showed watch more of it, but it's just time and money and like everything else, but I'm going to try to lock in because I really liked most of what I saw on this show.
30:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, to me, they're having one of the best years of any promotion I think, like as far as the ones I watch anyway.
30:09
[SPEAKER_05]: So they're definitely worth checking out, I think.
30:13
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, the show opened with a dark match, which was, uh, I don't know if that was on the show, the version you watched, but the dark match was re-on.
30:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Rihanna defeating Akira Corgane and Frukegan death in five minutes and one second.
30:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Rihanna pin Frukegan, which was a pretty big pin for her.
30:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that might be the first time.
30:37
[SPEAKER_05]: She's ever pin like an actual veteran.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Frukegan is, you know, kind of the bottom of the the ladder, especially for hate.
30:46
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it was a quick little match here about, you know, like I said, five minutes and one second, really not a lot to it besides the Fookie gang comedy spots that everybody always loves.
30:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, a decent choice to get the crowd hyped up, but like you know, just like a two and a half star a little match here.
31:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, this wasn't on the version that I watched and I was actually just who don't get any is one of the people that I'm kind of looking out for, then I like I knew she's very new, right?
31:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she started and um, got the introduced her at the very start of the year.
31:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember when her actual in ring debut was because she did like a few exhibitions for us.
31:21
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like Jane and where I think.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think she's she's always been pretty cool and everything I've seen her in and when I was watching the main part, I was like, where are I she?
31:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's years of the dark match, yeah.
31:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, the dark matches always are on YouTube.
31:37
[SPEAKER_05]: So they are they are available.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
31:41
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, she's she seems like people like her a lot.
31:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like she did something that can really get you over with the internet, especially she told everybody she has depression.
31:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Push up like that always is a good one to get you over to you.
31:58
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not relatable, but yeah, so that was your dark match.
32:05
[SPEAKER_05]: But for the main card started, they announced various awards for the Five Star Grand Prix that just ended a couple of weeks ago.
32:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll go read those off real quick.
32:15
[SPEAKER_05]: They did a best bow in all four blocks.
32:17
[SPEAKER_05]: So the red A best bow was Saya Kamatani versus May Sierra from August 16th in Yokohama.
32:25
[SPEAKER_05]: The Red Bee Best Bout was an absolute coutura against Rina from August 2nd and Sendeye.
32:31
[SPEAKER_05]: The Blue A Best Bout was Cioriano versus Bozilla from August 6 in the Corican Hall.
32:37
[SPEAKER_05]: The Blue Bee Best Bout was Cere versus Konami from July 27 on the Outer Ward, the Opiter.
32:45
[SPEAKER_05]: the overall best bow was Azumi versus Rina, which was the semi-finals, the semi-finals from the final night.
32:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Of those best bow, they all sound pretty reasonable to me.
32:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Except maybe the red B1, that one kind of shocked me.
33:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that match was good, but they were just so many matches and red B, I like the lot more.
33:05
[SPEAKER_05]: For the rest of them, they were all pretty close to what I would put as like the best belt from that block, even if I didn't have that exact match as like my number one.
33:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And as you me versus Rina as the overall best belt, I definitely agree with them.
33:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that was, you know, that was the match I went the highest on and also the my, you know, one of my favorite matches entire year.
33:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Reno won the skill award and the fighting spirit award, so she got two more, two more awards on top of the two best batsy guys, so she was like carrying, like struggling to hold all four of these trophies, which was kind of funny.
33:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Susu Suzuki got the outstanding performance award.
33:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So those are all your awards for the five star.
33:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, they also just mentioned.
33:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So like they're announcing all these awarding Japanese, I'm like, what did they say as Hume was?
33:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, oh yeah, dash.
33:52
[SPEAKER_05]: She's a runner-up of the tournament overall, could be lost in the final.
33:55
[SPEAKER_05]: So that was what they announced for her.
33:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And then obviously also Momo, was to know how you won the tournament.
34:01
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
34:04
[SPEAKER_05]: The show opened up the main card with Rina, who, again, just got the four awards in the pre-show, defeating Emma, Emma, Masima, and eight minutes and 38 seconds with the pink devil.
34:18
[SPEAKER_05]: See, yeah, this was a good open, I thought the way, Lena just like let's these smaller girls like bounce right off her at the start of her matches is just something I always enjoy.
34:27
[SPEAKER_05]: She really does a good job of just like, you know, standing there and taking these forums and just like, you know, not like giving an inch.
34:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
34:34
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I got.
34:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was say something that's been kind of crazy to realize when I was because this is the first time in a kind of wild that I've watched like a full startup show from start to finish.
34:47
[SPEAKER_02]: like all of the matches, all the pre-gened like the tattoo type stuff, and I did not realize how young their roster skews, so many of these people are so young, and so watch Rina who's like 18 years old, be this like big heel bully, was so delightful.
35:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and she's been, because she's been wrestling for like six years already, just crazy.
35:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they have all these like wrestlers who started so young that are like the sempies of a roster when they're like 18 to 25.
35:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was one of my thoughts during the Starlight Kid match.
35:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's another like tiny little sympa, but yeah, this is a good I thought this is a good showing to for Emma who she really hasn't gotten a lot of chances to stand out, you know, because I feel like she's been over shadow by a lot of the other reviews this year.
35:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but she got to stand out much more in this match.
35:44
[SPEAKER_05]: She got some very close near falls off of flash pin attempts and cutbacks and was showing good baby face fire here.
35:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Reno did eventually put her away with the pink devil, but I thought it was a super fun opener and the best Emma has looked, you know, I think by a mile actually.
35:59
[SPEAKER_05]: So I went three and a half on this.
36:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really really enjoyed it.
36:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think the dynamic was so perfectly clear.
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Reno's fucking awesome.
36:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she was the big, she was a big breakout star of the five star.
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Just everything down the wrestling, the look, the matter is, everything is just playing, it's beautiful.
36:28
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... match number two was Hanako and wakasuki yama defeating iosakara and kiki o furasala uh... hanako and ia in eight twenty six uh... a little surprising she would pin ia there she pinned to what their Argentine backbreaker driver thing
36:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they're building to Hanako and Waka facing Ia and her partner in Cosmic Angels Psychic Akura, um, for the new blood tag titles.
36:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't believe that has a date yet, but it's probably coming up on one of the upcoming new blood shows.
37:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so yeah, Hanako pinning Ia instead of the rookie Kika was a little surprising, maybe.
37:07
[SPEAKER_05]: but maybe they want to really put over the idea that it's going to be an uphill climb for I, and I, you know, I am sorry, I got to win these tag titles.
37:17
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know, I thought there's all right, like two and three quarters didn't really stand out to me.
37:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was fine.
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, kind of surprised you, I know I have from her work with the Sendai Dolls Junior title.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought she might, like, again, I'm not as tapped into start him so I only realized after all that they were building to that tactile match, but I was surprised that she got pinned over the rookie that debuted like three months and over something.
37:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
37:45
[SPEAKER_05]: But they do, they do surprising, they do surprising pimples.
37:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I think more than a lot of other Japanese emotions, like surprising people getting pinned.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Which honestly is fine with me.
37:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's the drama which I'm always here for.
38:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the, the next match was Macyira and Dr. Celawada, defeating Unimus and Mori and Psychicura, May pinned Yuna in 943 with the checkmate.
38:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so this was exactly the fast-paced stuff you would expect from May and Yunaman, uh, you know, just doing some really cool high-speed style stuff.
38:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Sigh, I then came in for a little bit of double-teaming, um, but yeah, I thought there was a, this kind of little awkward here there, but I still thought it was, you know, really fun action throughout.
38:35
[SPEAKER_05]: went three and a quarter on it by the end, so pretty good little match here, may pinning you know what the checkmate probably doesn't bode well for her chances of retaining the high-speed title against her this coming week, but which is sad because I think she's kind of like the perfect high-speed champion, but you know, I guess she has to lose about eventually, so we'll say, you know, get it, lose it, get it back maybe, she's again, she's one of those very
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it was fun.
39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I don't love to single out wrestlers in these cases, but I thought the parts with silhouettes out were the more flunky ones.
39:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, but me's great.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm on has such like great energy.
39:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I always get sucked in whenever I see her.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It was enjoyable.
39:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, I'm really like her and I don't I'm not trying to say I wouldn't like to see her win a title.
39:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I think to be cool.
39:32
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just may see her just feels like she was born to be.
39:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I speak to him.
39:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
39:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't fully get what you mean.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, the next match was the hate trio of Momo Watanabe, as you say, Naba and Konami, defeating Vita Locas Bozilla, it's a kayayoki and Rina Yamashida.
39:55
[SPEAKER_05]: It was Momo pinning ayoki.
39:57
[SPEAKER_05]: in 1014 with the Decila Sunrise.
40:01
[SPEAKER_05]: This had a really fun and energetic start I thought with Azusa just like getting triple teamed by all the members of a mevita loca.
40:09
[SPEAKER_05]: She did finally get the tag out to Konami and it's so like hate or so popular now they almost do treat them like baby faces and a lot of matches and
40:18
[SPEAKER_05]: you know, they get like we see a Zeus like a kill tier, then she gets the hot tie to Konami and Konami Kleene's house and it's like yeah, the harass abuse terrorized eradicate are the they the baby faces here just get down to fun.
40:34
[SPEAKER_05]: The finish though was Momo hitting Ayoki with uh one of those bat swings that uh should have actually murdered her if the bat was real like
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know the bad that she uses made up but the sound of that thing is crazy.
40:54
[SPEAKER_05]: It makes like this, yeah, because it does still make this really loud sound where I'm just like, is this okay, like you're like really hurting the people?
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, not being able to add to it, it adds to it, it has to feel like they're really getting, you know, not the fuck out.
41:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, um, you know, I've got to sew down a bit after the super have have start still enjoyable, but I went like a gentle woman three year.
41:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I enjoyed it.
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I I'm always happy to see a O. K. does I really I really like her, but she's not on a lot of shows that are like easy to find and watch.
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm always glad to see her show up in like the the promotions that I actually know where to look to find them.
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: She she's done a couple of appearances on evolution as well.
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Always glad to see her.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she has a great look.
41:47
[SPEAKER_02]: She moves great.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always happy to see where I am ashto as well.
41:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's I think it's fun that they did this fashion with like I think it's only Susu and Akira right that are starting to start on.
42:00
[SPEAKER_06]: And Bozilla, yeah, Bozilla sent it.
42:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I've forgot, it's been, it's, it's pretty recent, but yeah.
42:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
42:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So never mind what I was about to say then, but I think it's still, the fact and still fun hates are honestly, I really like them.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I, I'm always kind of hit or miss with healing units and you're going to hear me talk about this when we get to dry and get.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I think hate just really works.
42:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they all have great synergy with each other.
42:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of is missing sometimes from some of these hill units that do like a lot of triple teams interference, whatever.
42:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, always nice to see all of these people.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Momo is a beast.
42:40
[SPEAKER_05]: They always look like they have fun together, right?
42:43
[SPEAKER_05]: They look like they look like they enjoy terms company.
42:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
42:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
42:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And just and Momo is just so fucking cool.
42:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, again, I'm not tapped in enough into what, like, the story that they're doing really is to know, like, is she going to assert, sigh out whatever, like, I don't know, but I really hope that her time on top is coming very, very soon because it feels like she's hotter than ever and her work is, I mean, speaks for her speaks for itself, even in a match like this.
43:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but yeah, that was uh, that was definitely uh, they're always quoted to say them just like, you know, do their triple teams and stuff.
43:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, it was, it was cool.
43:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I like I said, I thought the, the maybe, maybe the local team worked really well together, too early in the matches, especially.
43:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I was just looking up where I OK normally works because, you know, when you mentioned that she works for wave a lot, which yeah, they were, they really make, they, they're hard to find.
43:39
[SPEAKER_05]: But, yeah, they're definitely hard to find footage of, yeah.
43:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so the next match in eight woman tag, we had Dodd-Zai, Saki Kashima, Hina, Rana Yagami, and God, it was the fourth member of this team.
43:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And Okioka Katatsu, defeating the star's team of a non-sciety-de-momoko-go, and Yuri Himei, he'd have been to Kogo in 1026 with the Jack Amir.
44:08
[SPEAKER_05]: The funniest part of this match, so Saki Kashima, she doesn't even, doesn't rest a bit in the five star at all.
44:14
[SPEAKER_05]: She's one of the only lost members not to do the five star, and then she comes in here and doesn't do anything except
44:23
[SPEAKER_05]: But that was such a funny bit like we stand the lady cream.
44:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's kind of what she does, right?
44:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's her whole bit if she just doesn't do anything.
44:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's just a really, it's a really funny bit to me.
44:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It must be nice to be the rest of the roster who's whole thing is doing nothing for it because it's funny.
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is fun.
44:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, don't do it.
44:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Azure to say, I thought it was pretty high energy.
44:54
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just one unfortunate bot where he had just kind of dropped Momo Coco going for the power slam right for the finish, and I just like pick her up and hit it again, which, you know, always kind of rough when that happens right at the finish, too.
45:07
[SPEAKER_05]: But I still went like three star.
45:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was three stars on I thought was fine.
45:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is what I like about a lot of these matches that they don't overstate they're welcome.
45:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody like the action is very crisp.
45:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody gets to do what they're here to do and it's just very enjoyable to watch.
45:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Hanan is someone who I've heard a lot about.
45:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I know opinions are very divided on her.
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like her personally.
45:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Edam Law, though, which I think is kind of popular opinions I have.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: No, nothing really more to say about it other than it was very enjoyable, didn't overstate welcome and kind of got me to see a lot of people that I don't usually see, so it was fun.
45:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I've funny you brought that up not overstaying it to welcome because the next match I thought had the exact opposite problem where they had so many incredibly town of wrestlers in this match.
46:07
[SPEAKER_05]: It was as far away tag and they only gave it six minutes and 25 seconds.
46:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I was really, but I mean, this is like a lot of my personal favs to win this match.
46:15
[SPEAKER_05]: So it was Amy Soray and Lady C. They were the team that won.
46:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Not supporting Seriano who are.
46:22
[SPEAKER_05]: you know, my two overall favors in the promotion.
46:24
[SPEAKER_05]: We're also in this match, and then Azumi, another one of my favorites, and me, I'm Azaki, one of my favorite young wrestlers.
46:31
[SPEAKER_05]: So like three teams, I mean, I love, I love, I love Ami Sauray, and the lady C also, I think they're a great tight team is the Raywood Twin Towers, and
46:39
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think lady sees me in a lot of strides this year.
46:41
[SPEAKER_05]: And obviously, excellence is coming back from our injury.
46:45
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, it was three teams here that I really love.
46:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And then also, Fukuoka double crazy, Hazuki and Koguma.
46:50
[SPEAKER_05]: But I know a lot of other people love them both, especially Hazuki, they're not my favorites on the roster.
46:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I, they're fine.
46:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I sound like I dislike them, but yeah, it was like three teams full of people that really love.
47:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And then also Fukuoka double crazy.
47:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And I just was really disappointing this only got six and a half but that's me.
47:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
47:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to end up pinning me with the like thunder and again, just wait too quick for the insane amount of talent in this match.
47:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And what we'll see if this leads to like a goddesses of start and title challenge for Amin lady say, but what I really, again, why just wish this has gotten more time.
47:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And I also just think it speaks to the insane depths of the
47:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was something that I was a little bit surprised about as the part was going on.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, wait, is there not like a tap or a trio's title match?
47:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I figured there's no trio's title match.
47:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Just Starlight Kid has the as the artist's belts.
47:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's already defending the one restaurant, but, you know, and then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, there's this.
47:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Did I forgot that the goddess belts change hands?
47:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Torahub, the next match.
48:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And, do you think I was not on the card at all?
48:06
[SPEAKER_06]: No, she wasn't on the card.
48:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I think it just kind of was a matter of like having, you know, double champions and then having all these like inter promotional stuff, not, because it feels like you could have put any of those scenes on a goddess' match on that show.
48:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, for sure.
48:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, kind of a waste is not to do much more with them, especially a team like, you know, boy and Saudi, obviously are incredible.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, kind of, unfortunately, that's kind of all I have to say, does it feel like I barely saw some of the people that were in this match?
48:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I still gave it three in a quarter.
48:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought they did a great job with the time they were given, but they, for the amount of town this match, they should have got like 12
48:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, your next match and now you get to the real business on the card here was not so contora defeating me, you me Ozaki and 1243 at the Death Valley bomb.
49:06
[SPEAKER_05]: This was wild.
49:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this was pretty much what you expect going in.
49:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So they had to give a little background for investors who didn't want to wear the build up here.
49:18
[SPEAKER_05]: The hate unit had intruded on one of Osaki's Azacademy shows, and they had basically ruined the end of his show.
49:24
[SPEAKER_05]: They're last corrican.
49:26
[SPEAKER_05]: They caused the three-way Azacademy title match.
49:30
[SPEAKER_05]: The Azacademy open-weight title to go to a no-contest.
49:34
[SPEAKER_05]: And that was actually Siori Anno defending the title.
49:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So, Siori, on top of that, has used stole her title.
49:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, that has used God.
49:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Rock has still her title.
49:45
[SPEAKER_05]: So rock I wasn't booked on the show was has he has I guess physical possession of the Ozacademy title.
49:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know the lore and I was wondering why the hell she had the belts.
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, give me a good show.
50:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about that.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw her and I saw that she had the belt and I was like, okay, what the hell?
50:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to go check who the champion was.
50:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw I still sat I still sat.
50:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I still sat already and I just did
50:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're welcome.
50:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they asked, that's why Ozaki was like so pissed off here and she, you know, besides the fact that she's never read a good movie in any way, but yeah, she's like battering tour with the chain early on as you'd expect, just like beaten her ass with it, um, but then tour like explodes out the corner with the shoulder block and the crowd actually chance for her, the crowd is behind her to that was, you know, I guess Ozaki's the outsider and as I was talking about hate's pretty popular now, anyway.
50:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, Rhina, though, eventually pulls Ozaki out of the ring and hate just gives you like this gang beating on the outside and the tour is like throwing her to chairs on the outside.
50:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Ozaki, though, eventually cleans house on all of hate by herself.
50:55
[SPEAKER_05]: And she nearly kills tour with a spinning back fist for a two count.
50:59
[SPEAKER_05]: That was right.
51:00
[SPEAKER_05]: That was that looked really cool, right.
51:01
[SPEAKER_05]: That's very amazing.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
51:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:05
[SPEAKER_05]: uh Raka accidentally hits Torx, accidentally hits her with the blockbox and then Ozaki spits red mid-feature face but then just when he thinks she's gonna win, the Raka gets pulled out of the ring.
51:16
[SPEAKER_05]: He finally comes back in after Ozaki hits the tequila sunrise, but the long delay lets Torx kick out of the move.
51:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Tora, though she blocks the chain back fest, then she spits her own blue mist into Ozaki's face.
51:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And they grab the chain, hits a layer with a front two count, then a Death Valley bomb for another two count.
51:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Tora hits the swank on up the top of Ozaki, but Ozaki just kind of knows souls that I mean, and just rolls her up out of nowhere for two.
51:45
[SPEAKER_05]: That was kind of awesome.
51:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Momo, hitster with the bat, Tora has her for another Death Valley bomb at that point.
51:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Just like, so Momo is like, hitster with the bat, like, while she's in midair, and then Tora has the Death Valley bomb, and that finally gets to pen.
52:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought there's just a tough one to rate because the constant run-ins and rough distractions and everything.
52:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that stuff got a little old at some point, but the stretch from was really really great.
52:12
[SPEAKER_05]: So I still thought there was a good match.
52:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I went three and a half on it.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: This was kind of exactly the match that I expected out of those two specific wrestlers.
52:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really enjoyed it for that reason because I just love when two big, like, very, very hard-hated personalities clash.
52:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, obviously Ozaki is this legendary old timer who's, you know,
52:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Just you're getting it and you're getting it and you're getting it.
52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't fucking care.
52:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It was great brilliant.
52:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
52:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I just really enjoyed it.
52:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed the chaos.
52:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that the interference was fine.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I have very little patience with it with some other units, but I don't know.
53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I just really like, hey, I'm a hate stand, maybe.
53:11
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of them now, that's for sure.
53:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really fun.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like Torna.
53:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she has just a great look.
53:18
[SPEAKER_02]: She moves great her like everything she does.
53:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so hard-having and has so much power behind it.
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy.
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed it.
53:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I've she said it was a big stride, too.
53:28
[SPEAKER_05]: As an emery worker in the last few months.
53:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like she had a great five star, too.
53:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.
53:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:36
[SPEAKER_05]: but probably this is like the best I've seen or at least so she looked really good lately.
53:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So the follow-up to what happened here, obviously the whole deal here is, you know, Ozaki for people who don't follow Ozacad, I mean, which I imagine is a lot of you, she, her whole unit, they like evil, second-groom, and all the one I call it, I can fall on a part pretty recently, and that's why she had no backup here.
54:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, when we went back to the next Ozacademy show in Shinjuku face a few days later, they announced that, well, first of all, personal tarot caught a showed up.
54:14
[SPEAKER_05]: The president started him to apologize for hate intruding and like ruining the end of their cork and show and he was kind of like, I can't control them either, I might show them.
54:24
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you want me to tell you, because that was funny.
54:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Mario Miyazaki kicked a vest, which was also kind of funny.
54:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, then they, the, the old, uh, second-groom got back together.
54:36
[SPEAKER_05]: So the, the evil second-groom is back together apparently, and they're going to face hate, you know, including Suryano, she's back with them, and they're going to face hate in like a full confrontation at their upcoming big Yoko Hama Buddha Kancho.
54:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So that'll be interesting.
54:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That should be awesome.
54:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Also, the stipulation to is of Ozaki, if, if the, uh, Ozaki team loses, she has to join
54:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Lower the foot again.
55:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Lower the foot again.
55:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably not happening, but it really really.
55:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think they're just going to win.
55:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, who's Ozaki Saudi?
55:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it might be my U.K.
55:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He isn't.
55:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Maya, U.K., I think.
55:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me say if I could find who exactly they said would be on it.
55:24
[SPEAKER_05]: The Azacademy, who did they say it's going to be in the smash, let's say.
55:32
[SPEAKER_05]: If I can find it.
55:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's Info Azacademy, so tell me who's in the smash guys.
55:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's say I did to do the scroll and scroll and scroll and try to find it in the smash.
55:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so it's on October 19th, by the way, I think that's the show, but yeah, I can't seem to find they don't seem to have the exact group of people who are in this match.
56:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't can't seem to find that so there you go, and less I'm just missing something, but it says you I think it is you, I think you said that yeah, and
56:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, on a left Phantom limit to rejoin them that that did happen, and then I don't know who else it is.
56:25
[SPEAKER_05]: So I guess we'll find out.
56:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
56:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll see whatever they officially announced it.
56:31
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't think it's like I don't think what's I don't think you're not.
56:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
56:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
56:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
56:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I asked a question.
56:46
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't know the answer to it.
56:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So what are you going to do?
56:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we get the IWGPA women settle match.
56:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Surrey defeats Susan Suzuki and 22 33 with the, well, they translate as rich clutch reverse throw.
57:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's like the risk clutch you're not gay.
57:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, which might be what you're probably is what you're not any literally means, probably why it translates to that.
57:09
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, this was series second title defense of the IWGB woman's title.
57:14
[SPEAKER_05]: They had the exact type of, if you close your eyes and picture this match, it's probably exactly what you're expecting.
57:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you just created some very hard form shots that chest just really like, I mean, really, really, really hard, just like this like echoing across the entire building kind of hard.
57:30
[SPEAKER_05]: It was almost.
57:32
[SPEAKER_05]: They battered just full of crazy bumps.
57:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Like there was this top rope, German soup flex.
57:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like it really sucks for both girls.
57:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, just wrapping each other on your heads.
57:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Suzu managed to survive the initial like Surrey on slot of your inaugues.
57:50
[SPEAKER_05]: But she finally does eat ahead, but in the rest of the collection, you're an agave for the pen.
57:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Foreign a quarter, pretty much exactly I'd also need to expect from these two.
57:59
[SPEAKER_05]: They just beat the shit out of each other.
58:01
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... great stuff this was my favorite of the three dial matches on the show uh... just i had a blast watching it i was clutching my pearls the entire time
58:16
[SPEAKER_02]: because I was like these two are insane and I don't know.
58:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so fun, Susu is so good.
58:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we know sorry is good.
58:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need to hammer on about how good Sarah is.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: If everybody knows how good Sarah is, but Susu is just so fucking badass.
58:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm obsessed, I don't know.
58:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, again, and like you said, the foreign makes change at the beginning where they were just like daring each other to just go as far as they could.
58:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want.
58:45
[SPEAKER_02]: from these two girls specifically.
58:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And never say it.
58:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you ever see that video footage of Susie talking about what a juvenile delinquents she used to be?
58:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe.
58:58
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like really funny because it's like basically, Susie is like, is kind of exactly what you'd expect her to be.
59:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, like she had the exact upbringing you'd expect.
59:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember she told the story about how she once kicked her own dad in the balls, where it's like, oh my God, you didn't see that one.
59:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:16
[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't see that one, yeah.
59:17
[SPEAKER_04]: It would be that one.
59:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
59:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:20
[SPEAKER_05]: It was very great.
59:22
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, wow, it's like, I guess they were fighting about like her not going to school or something.
59:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you had the exact life you'd expect to do that.
59:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, I think I, they were there was a part where they were also like on the outside, it's changing like just taking each other in the face, basically.
59:42
[SPEAKER_02]: taking turns like sorry was just like slapping her own face daring Susu to kick her and I don't know, I just love it.
59:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I love when people just hit each other really hard.
59:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of where I'm at in my resting journey right now.
59:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, those who gave me the match that I wanted.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so great.
1:00:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Those bumps that Susu took on the uran audience towards the end were terrifying, but it was awesome.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the next match was my favorite of the three title matches, the wonder starting title match with Starlight Kid defeating Tomoko Inaba in 2015 with the Black Tiger light killer to make her six defense of the white belt.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, this Starlight Kid, I mean, she,
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I did, if I was going to vote like on both staff standing rest were like best in ring rest over the year, I think she wins it for me right now because she's had an amazing white belt title reign all year long.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_05]: She had amazing five star and I just don't think there's anyone who's been like it's consistently great.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_05]: in all of us think of she's been.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she's having the best head already in wrestling this year and you know, just the wrestlers, a style that I really love, the technical wrestling style, where she works on people's legs and stuff.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And she also just like her selling in this match was amazing too.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, because Tomica, again, is just another like double leg match for Tomica also goes after people's legs.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_05]: So she was going after,
1:01:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Star Lake kid's leg and just, you know, Tomukka, she got her in this leg hold that she had beaten her with back in the five stars.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a call back to that and Star Lake kid was just doing this amazing job selling it just like screaming and pain.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_05]: She slaps them at once and makes it look like she's going to tap out but only slaps it once and just is like struggling and struggling and struggling before she makes the ropes just really really really really awesome selling from her.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and you got this insane high kick by Tomahawk at one point before it just looked like she took uh, poor little poor Charlie kids head off, uh, but then she runs right into a Mitch and no clue drive from Starlight game, which was, uh, kid stealing her moves and it's Tomahawk and does that, which makes sense.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's a, uh, a, uh, a producer, you know, a student of
1:02:01
[SPEAKER_05]: She staggers up, but can't find the energy to go to the top rope, but then she finally kicks Tomica away, slowly climbs up top, which again, great selling as she's like slowly climbing up there.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Moon thoughts, Tomica's leg, and again, it sells her own leg really, really well on the landing too, and then locks in the black tiger leg killer, even like picking her up and slamming her back to the mat down really hard.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_05]: At one point before Tomica finally has no choice but to tap.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and she was still selling her own light when she was doing that.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_05]: There was another one too.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_05]: She did like a tiger suit plaque with like held her leg up in midair.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_05]: which you know, she's just amazing selling.
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was even better than they're matcha they had in the five star and this was my matcha and I went four and a half stars on it and you know just the exact kind of matcha I love with you know all the light work and all the great selling by both of them and just you know just really like Starley kid is really just having matches you know really to my personal taste right now that just are better than almost anybody
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I can absolutely respect that.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just so different from the match that came before, right?
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Completely completely different.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Ressolo is completely different approach.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's also a really like probably one of the biggest strengths that I hear people talk about when they talk about start-in is how much variety there is.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's certain companies.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You watch them and it's kind of the same style up and down the card.
1:03:27
[SPEAKER_02]: With start-in, it really seems to be a very, very well balanced mix.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_02]: of everything, which I think works really well.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, this match was great for what it was like going for.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them, I thought, had stellar performances.
1:03:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Starlight Kid is just, I mean, has been awesome for way too many years for how young she is.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_02]: The, yeah, I really, really enjoyed it.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the final moments, not only were great from wrestling perspective, but also provided
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_02]: When Starlake had Inaba in like the final submission that ended the map and she was again selling her own leg, she was kind of struggling to stand up.
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Just really, really like high-auting drama, which is something that I really personally look forward to in my wrestling.
1:04:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really really enjoyed this as well.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_05]: um they start like can also she's such a great asshole after the match where she's like taunting to home okay she's like the world's tiniest bully basically and she's just like you know telling her like oh start him to harder than you thought hi now but it's like you're like what it she's such a little jerk it's really funny
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they announced also to keep things of Starlight Kid, uh, a couple of days after this had a big press conference, and the camera opens up on Starlight Kid and, uh, Tara O'Cotta looking selling.
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_05]: So everybody online watching this live is like, oh my god, she retiring or something.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_05]: What's going on here?
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_05]: But no, they were just announcing her 10th anniversary show next month.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_05]: She's 23.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's 10th anniversary show in 20.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Been resting a decade already.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, she's got, she's going to wrestle on October 20th.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Her 10th anniversary debut show.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the subtitles.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Starlight Kims, 10th anniversary debut tournament.
1:05:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Kid Chan family and danger.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's like,
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_05]: kind of fun.
1:05:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'm assuming best the NDK will probably be there.
1:05:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, they already announced that that's the key child family.
1:05:31
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's her, despy and dragon kid teaming up in the main event to take on a mystery trio.
1:05:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So we don't know where their opponents are yet, but we'll have to say fun.
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really fun.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I did that.
1:05:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure you saw it in Dragon Gate a few months ago that tag match, where it was Despy and Dragon Kid with with Charlie Kid and her corner.
1:05:53
[SPEAKER_05]: She got like physically involved too, which was really cool.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_02]: When they announced this match, I was like, if Charlie Kid doesn't dive to the outside, on to the brats, I'm giving you the full five and she did.
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So I am a men of my word.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's awesome.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_02]: She also teamed with
1:06:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Despy, again, I think it, oh my god, I can't remember, but it was on the Despy invitation, I'll show last year where she was in a match with him, Dragon Kid and Mimashimoda.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That was really fun.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I really love their little family dynamic.
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really cute.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you heard the backstory, that's what she originally just asked for tickets.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_05]: When she heard that, that's being dragged and give her teeming up.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Like she wanted to go to the show and watch it as a fan.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_05]: And they were just like, because it's obvious, that's being her trainer.
1:06:43
[SPEAKER_05]: They're one of her trainers, like who helped her all the time when wrestling stuff and dragging kid is someone she's a huge fan of apparently.
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Like she used to go to a lot of dragon gate shows.
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_05]: And they were like instead of they were like a seven ticket won't you be in our corner and she was like, oh, okay, it's so, it's such a so cool how that worked out, it's a door and it's a door involved.
1:07:03
[SPEAKER_05]: The main event, the World of Starred and Title, Syahe Komitani, to fitting B Presley in at 2234 with the spinning star crusher.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was better than I expected.
1:07:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I was kind of expecting it to be, you know, the big downer of the show after, and it's not like it could fall, it really couldn't fall the last two matches, but given, you know, how B did not look great along the five star, I thought she looked better here.
1:07:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Her big problem is she has that,
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Do a move pose, do a move American wrestling disease, which is just not the style and start them at all.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's just very that is like that's why her matches just come off a little too slow and plotting compared to everybody else in the promotion, but even despite that, I thought they really got things on track and they really had a.
1:07:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Very good match.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I ended up going three and three quarters.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I couldn't follow the last two matches, but it was still, you know, Sia is so charismatic and the crowd was so behind her that I thought they managed to get, you know, they got me into a by the end.
1:08:04
[SPEAKER_05]: So, despite going in, not expecting much out of it, I did like it.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I'm not a fan of recently at all.
1:08:19
[SPEAKER_02]: sloppy as hell.
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not sure.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Syah is so great that it ended up evening out by the end.
1:08:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Is really what I have what I want to say if I'm going to stay polite.
1:08:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, Syah is fucking awesome.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing like just nothing to say other than that.
1:08:42
[SPEAKER_02]: She just gets everything
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_02]: She is, I mean, she's basically the, it's not just her, but she's a lot of the reason why started him is doing so great.
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_06]: No, yeah, totally.
1:08:59
[SPEAKER_02]: She is really, really coming to her own.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that a lot of people were a bit cold on the heel turn when it first happened, but I just think she's just, she just gets it.
1:09:11
[SPEAKER_02]: She's really, really great.
1:09:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, she, she, she did make people a lot of people eat their words on that.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she's been such a great heal because a lot of people were very skeptical when she first turned to you.
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_05]: But um, so after the match, Azumi comes out to challenge what you'd expect and she eliminate her in the five star quarter finals, uh, but that is, I can't out fucking, they had such an awesome match of the five star and now they're going to have a rematch, uh, for the not only for the red belt, but also Sia wanted her to put the purple belt as she
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_05]: on the line too.
1:09:44
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's going to be a double title match and that is set for the September 27 Corican.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So another thing I love about Startum, which you know, a lot of Japanese proficiency through this nowadays, but not all of them, is it gives you big title matches a Corican occasionally.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_05]: So we've had that.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is good because that atmosphere is great for those type of big matches of aquarium.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, this is, uh, they will see what happens.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they've already been trading really like, uh, like some really hard, uh, hard barbs on Twitter back and forth and, you know, there was like, sigh, asked, as you know, like, you know, what, since what are you bad and as you know, it was like, I've always been bad that was funny.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_05]: But she's always been like a very nasty promo to people like you and that she's never she's I don't think she's technically well Queen's question is pretty heo should start but yeah, she used to call like everybody older than her grandma and stuff I mean you know Sia should be used should have been used to that's from being a team again she's one of those people who they'd really really young Yeah, I think she and Starlight kid actually started out kind of at the same time and they're about the same age
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, as soon as a little younger actually she's like uh, I think 22 instead of 23.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, no ensiah was like, or well, I'm not interested in belts from like overseas organizations.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I guess the strong bells is technically like in New Japan USA or something like that, but yeah.
1:11:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, although there's no more New Japan USA shows.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what the fuck the point of that belt.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, maybe size is going to wet it and like seal it.
1:11:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Is the only thing I can think of?
1:11:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's like they really know if they're not going to run anymore strong shows, there's really no reason for it to exist.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, I guess we'll see.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I assume he is, you know, again, one of my favorites is just so fucking great.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'd love to see her win the red belt.
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't think it has much of a chance of happening.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know.
1:11:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a chance that they might do a draw?
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_05]: You think maybe because it's the strong belt does have the same 30-minute time limit as the world of starting titles.
1:11:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, 30-minute draw is possible.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But we'll have to say I guess the next show coming up for star and real quick is a couple days from now, the next starter nighter in Corrican on September 10th, so we do have the full card for that.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll go through that really quickly.
1:12:07
[SPEAKER_05]: The dark match is a three way, a Zuki versus a Kira Kurogane versus Emma Machima.
1:12:13
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a six woman tag, as we continue to build to the new blood tag that I'm at Hanako, Walka Suki Yamaha, and Rihon taking on Ayosakura, Saigakura, and Tikyo Furusawa.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we have an eight woman tag, the team from God's eye, Saki Kashima, Amy Sor, Amy Soray, Lady C, and God, the other one, the same, I always forgot.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_05]: And the one who's never around, and I never remember a name.
1:12:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Kiyoko Katatsu, taking on the, we read a local team of Susan Zuki, Rita Yup, Rita Yamashida,
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So that could be a pretty fun little eight woman tag actually.
1:13:00
[SPEAKER_05]: A big tag match that I'm really looking forward to, that just a straight up two versus two tag, not supported in Suryano, taking on Rana Yaga Me and Toma Kinava.
1:13:10
[SPEAKER_05]: That could be really good if it gets any time.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And then a future of StarDentile match, he and that defense against Urea, he may, probably no shot of Urea winning here.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I didn't probably.
1:13:21
[SPEAKER_05]: She really hasn't beaten anybody yet.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_05]: So, but, you know, she's looked good, especially for her experience level, so I'm expecting another good, he and a future title defense there.
1:13:32
[SPEAKER_05]: uh the eight woman tag match after that is Hanan, Sayahida, Momo Kogo, and be priestly, taking on Sayah Kamatani, not to go Torah, Momo Watanabe, and Azusa Inava.
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_05]: the CMLL, Japan woman's title on the line of apparently a real belt.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Dark silhouette a defending against Koguma.
1:13:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, very random.
1:13:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we have the high speed title match.
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Macyara defending against you the music mori where I think you know it's probably going to win the belt while at the sake is if only because Macyara this set off are over a year at this point.
1:14:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the main event, the reschedule orders of Starbentile match, which was supposed to happen all the way back before the five star, but had to be postponed because of Rina's concussion that she suffered at the time.
1:14:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I kind of wonder if we'll see a title change there.
1:14:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's probably pretty likely, actually.
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It's made, it's made of then, so it's again, that's.
1:14:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah, it's made of it.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she's so popular that I guess it's, it's fine to made of that with her because yeah, the crowd loves her.
1:14:49
[SPEAKER_05]: But.
1:14:50
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, there's your start and quirk in coming up on Wednesday.
1:14:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And then that is there in live on startup world.
1:14:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So not another paper anymore like that.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_05]: So and he started more subscribers to watch it.
1:15:00
[SPEAKER_05]: They have two more starts shows live on startup world this weekend that are more like normal house shows.
1:15:06
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't even have cards for that yet, but that's the meagothas show on Saturday and the kind of Zala show on Sunday.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_05]: So lots of live starting coming up for the start and fans out there.
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice, very nice.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll move into Noah next to the Noah N1 victory opened up with September 6th from Cork and Hall.
1:15:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me see if we can have it.
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And did a 1,548, from another huge crowd for no-one in Korkin, as I've been drawing all year.
1:15:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, this show was interesting.
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there was a lot of, there's some good stuff.
1:15:47
[SPEAKER_05]: There was some stuff I didn't vibe with.
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And there may have been as many as two injuries.
1:15:52
[SPEAKER_05]: For sure, one injury it looks like.
1:15:55
[SPEAKER_05]: And another one where it looks like like Kenel might have also gotten his belt or something at the finish against Ricky Nate Jr.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_05]: and you're so,
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even pick up on that one to solve people talking about it, so maybe, I mean, every while they lost like their two other biggest stars in the same night, that'd be pretty crazy.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_05]: The show opened up with what I thought was the end up being up surprisingly the best of the N1 victory matches at all the matches were pretty short of this show.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't this was the best one for the for the tournament matches at least.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a block.
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Dog at defeating Tetsuya Endo in 1026.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought this had really good fast pace action right from the opening bell.
1:16:35
[SPEAKER_05]: The initial sequence that ended with this really hard.
1:16:39
[SPEAKER_05]: counter power stand from dog on the apron that looked really cool.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_05]: He also followed up with a nice plunge into the outside.
1:16:45
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, very good stuff here.
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And there was also other spot where Endo like sent dog a face first from the top rope from a power bomb position.
1:16:54
[SPEAKER_05]: That looked really sick.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he hit this poison ranna right after that on top of that, but yeah, crowd got really behind Endo with a loud chant for him, but Daga ended up game the pen after a flash pin exchange to pull off a big upset.
1:17:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was like, like I said, shockingly great match.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I want four stars flat on it.
1:17:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly how you want to start a tournament like this where they, you know, super fast, super exciting sprint of a match.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I always loved Endo, you know, obviously from his DDT days.
1:17:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's jelled pretty well with the Noah, like, roster overall.
1:17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Dog is one of those guys who I know is good, but I just can't connect with him.
1:17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It really annoys me because everybody else likes him.
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, this is his like kind of big introduction to the heavyweight fold in earnest with this this tournament.
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought he did really well great match definitely.
1:17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked this one the pin at the end.
1:18:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I love when I see a pin and I can't actually tell who won until I hear the music.
1:18:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was really fun.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, good opener.
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It was dynamic.
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It really set the tone enjoyable.
1:18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Not my favorite of the night, but enjoyable.
1:18:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, there was one match I liked better, but it was not a torrent match.
1:18:18
[SPEAKER_05]: So next match B block Jack Morris, who of course recently got kicked out of team two thousand next.
1:18:27
[SPEAKER_05]: He defeats Dakeenaba and a 534 the tiger driver.
1:18:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, this match started out fast and hot again, and he never in particular hit this really hard layer yet, uh, that Morris did this great spinning cell for, uh, but I'm fortunately unlike the opener, this match slowed down quite a bit, and there was this like really weird and very super looking spot where he now but like, so he's like holding on to the second rope and looks like he's going to like burst forward that you spear.
1:18:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And he just kind of like rocks back of forth for a second and Jack clearly has no idea what he's doing.
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think he actually like, if you watch him carefully carefully, you can see him like brace himself to get hit with a sphere way before it actually happens, which looks kind of stupid.
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Before it's not but then finally did hit the fucking sphere.
1:19:15
[SPEAKER_05]: But look at he had plenty of time to either counter or do something and he just stood there because I don't know, just barely where it's fought.
1:19:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I went and we're going two and three quarters, you know, started very hot, but the speed, the fake out weird spear just like looks so dumb and the kill the momentum and didn't get that much time.
1:19:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So you know, what are you going to do?
1:19:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just this one kind of came and went right, I mean, it was it was short, it was.
1:19:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Fine, I really like Inaba.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Moris, kind of the same problem as Dara for me, but I'm kind of interested in what they do with him in this tournament as I think he's not long for Noah.
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if they kind of go all in on him or if he makes it to like the final stages.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, don't really have much more than that to say about it.
1:20:08
[SPEAKER_05]: uh B-block again, two B-block answers a row here, Galliano defeats Harutoki in 740 where they moose salt.
1:20:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought there was, this was a bit boring, I thought there was nothing really wrong with it per se.
1:20:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought I was a very average match, nothing other than the very, very impressive moose salt the answer to that, but nothing else released it out for me.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like two and a half
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm super biased because I love how to talk to you so much, but I just, I don't know, I think he's so, like, endearing, he just really makes me root for him through everything he does.
1:20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, it was it was fun.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm it was not the one I was looking forward to the most because I was like how do talk he has no chance of winning this one I'm looking forward to the ones where I I think he has more potential to win if if he does win any at all But yeah, he just recently signed with Noah and I'm really excited to see where he's gonna be because he's young.
1:21:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's dynamic I think he has a great load great appeal to the fans so I'm excited for more how to talk he in Noah
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we had our A-block next match, massacre to Mia defeating Manabu Soya in eight minutes and 20 seconds with the Stranglehold.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_05]: So this was my first look at the heel to Mia, the chairman character, because, you know, I didn't really watch any know what all during the five star or the G1, just trying to keep up with that was a lot.
1:21:44
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I mean, so this is my first time seeing him as a heal.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought he looked good here.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, there's a, this is a nice like mean guy match, you know, both guys are just like trading blows and mass is just no selling them the whole time.
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_05]: He ends up like Larry are hitting a Larry.
1:22:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry, that really, that really looks like a kill them, but he pulls him up at two just to put him in the stranglehold and basically give him even more punishment and story does end up tapping.
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, Masa looks like a total killer here, which was like, was the idea.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Fun little match here, three and a quarter, before I would say.
1:22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think this was one of my favorite of the tournament matches, because I kind of try to have the same philosophy as the Sari and Susan match.
1:22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I just really like when people hit each other really hard.
1:22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and this was exactly this.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Also as a long time Masaki Tamia believer, I'm excited for a new direction for him.
1:22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope that this is finally them going full steam ahead within, which is something that I feel they probably should have done a long time ago.
1:22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever, he looked great.
1:22:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He looks like a killer.
1:22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, he's got the power to back it up.
1:22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And Soya is Soya, you know, I really enjoy him.
1:22:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I love his passion stuff.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's really fun.
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I really, really enjoyed this one.
1:23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I was into it, happy to see Masala getting the win.
1:23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not going to say we're taking the whole thing, but I want us to take the whole thing.
1:23:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, especially if it was out, that would take out the favor, and then I feel like Masala's as good as a choice as anybody.
1:23:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the next match, Ricky Knight Jr.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_05]: defeats Kano and 11 minutes and 11 seconds with the Requisci driver.
1:23:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of funny.
1:23:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they just they just call out the Requisci driver.
1:23:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you could tell Ricky was like really fired up to be in the spot.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I haven't haven't really seen much of him.
1:23:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really watch British and news ever.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_05]: But I thought he looked good here.
1:23:40
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he had some did some nice dives and
1:23:42
[SPEAKER_05]: you know, was selling pretty well, can know that kind of took over for a little bit, but then Ricky came back with these two very nice corner drop kicks just after the five-minute call.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you just have that like, afraid of some disease where like you can go from selling one moment to just like totally find the next, which you know, I feel like a lot of bruise wrestlers have that now, but you know, in a matches fast paces this, it doesn't have as much time to bother me, really.
1:24:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and he pulled off a big upset here.
1:24:10
[SPEAKER_05]: He gets the, uh, well, they caught the Requisci driver.
1:24:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's really the Ricky driver.
1:24:14
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know.
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_05]: And it closed that a super fun, uh, super stiff match here.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, if he can bring this level all tournament, I think that will go a lot, long way to making the B block better than I expect to going in.
1:24:26
[SPEAKER_05]: So good start firm here and good start for the, for the, you know, for Kenau as well when three and three quarters.
1:24:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Very good match.
1:24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was done with this family when I stopped watching a W. Well, she's not even around anymore.
1:24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but she was she still was when I stopped watching.
1:24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's really hard for me to look at Ricky and not see.
1:24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: All the shit that his family has been involved in and him also has been involved in.
1:24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He was recently seen at a gym that was displaying white supremacists.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Slowly.
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so really unhappy that he's in this tournament, really unhappy that Ken will have to be Kendall and put him over.
1:25:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm, again, I, I, I, I sent a challenge for myself to not be too negative on this podcast, but oh my god, this really this morning, I was just like, okay, whatever, um, Ken would be asking me sushi though, that was nice.
1:25:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was cool.
1:25:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I mean, I didn't even know the thing about the white supremacy, then that that does really suck, but, you know, whatever, British wrestlers be normal challenge, I guess.
1:25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, the whole scene anyway.
1:25:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the only, the feeling the only normal ones, the ones you got out a long time ago, but yeah, essentially.
1:25:49
[SPEAKER_05]: A block Kazuki Fujita defeating Okasizaki in four minutes and 44 seconds with the beast bomb.
1:25:57
[SPEAKER_05]: This was like kind of just a squash for Fujita.
1:26:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I felt like I think the problem here with like one of the problems Noah's has is they don't have a lot of every way depth and I think they really expected Okat to be more than this at this point.
1:26:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And he just continues not to really stand out as a wrestler besides like he has like a nice little entrance and the crowd seems to like him when he comes out But then his matches.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know he never stands out.
1:26:20
[SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't have he doesn't have like anything unique about him in his matches like you'd expect a shoot fighter to like do More shoot fighting or something.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_05]: He never really seems to do it, but yeah, I don't know just two and half star match was very average and just I think Olk is lack of development is one of the things holding Noah back right now
1:26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really really like Oltra, but I think that they broke the partnership like the whole little thing that he had with I mean I guess they kind of had to, but the whole partnership that he had with Kano and Ken's I thought was really good for him and I think that they broke it off a little too early.
1:26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He, I feel like he hasn't really been given the most forgiving spots, either.
1:27:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like this match, for example, uh, being his first mention of the tournament with this fucking bullheaded old guy, you know, Fujita is Fujita, you know what to expect, you know what you're gonna get.
1:27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's really nothing for me to say about this match other than I really hope that they have like a plan to develop to help all kinds of Develop because I don't really know that he's going to be able to like do it on his own if this is what they keep giving him.
1:27:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we have the B block now Mitchie Marifuji defeats Ozawa in 733 by count out.
1:27:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so yeah, the match starts with them taking turns stalling, not the most early starter match to be honest, uh, goes on for quite a while, then they took turns with doing dueling booker attacks, which is just nasty, uh, not something, not something I want to watch honestly.
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Osawa jumps very like he jumped up the top of one point like very, very high and almost sanded like this counter backdrops to flex in midair.
1:28:10
[SPEAKER_05]: It both look cool and kind of awkward at the same time somehow and I thought at first I'm like is that could I knew we got hurt before I started watching this match.
1:28:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, is that the spotting I heard in?
1:28:19
[SPEAKER_05]: But no, once you see this body got certain, it gets hurt and it's very obvious.
1:28:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So a little bit later, Osawa does an assay, moonsault to Marifuji all the way to the floor.
1:28:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Marifuji just a horrible job catching him to be fair.
1:28:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Osawa looked like he got like insane hang time on this, which is probably part of the problem.
1:28:35
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so Osawa Marifuji's in catching it all, Osawa comes down straight down on his left leg and his left foot.
1:28:42
[SPEAKER_05]: He tries to stand back up on it, but it neatly collapses.
1:28:44
[SPEAKER_05]: He cannot walk on it all.
1:28:46
[SPEAKER_05]: And Marifurgy rolls in the ring.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Clearly tells the raft is finished counting.
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't continue.
1:28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: And Marifurgy gets the one by count out.
1:28:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I'm having to stretch her, Ozo out.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_05]: If it's foot broken, which it looks like a very well could be, that's like,
1:29:02
[SPEAKER_05]: That's like what like six months will be out probably.
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's that would be devastating for Noah.
1:29:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's their biggest draw by far.
1:29:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, even just him missing the rest of the tournament, which I'll be shocked to be doesn't.
1:29:14
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be pretty bad for them.
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_05]: But if he's out like long term, that's going to be devastating for the promotion.
1:29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, this is just kind of an uncomfortable
1:29:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess it's just kind of one of those, I don't even, I don't know, it was that I think was our was again, as you said, it was probably the favorite to win the tournament.
1:29:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because they took the title off of to like give him the tournament when I think that's what I would think.
1:29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but even if he wasn't, you know, again, he's like, he's still quite young and to lose this much of your career at this point is always pretty, I mean, there obviously people have come back from it, it's happened, but it kind of, it really sucks.
1:30:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's no other way to put it, it just really sucks.
1:30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Mara Fuji has been in a lot of these discussions lately about whether he should still be in the spots or not.
1:30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, as as soon as never wrestle, I don't know if it's my place to pass judgment, but it's just not looking good, you know.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, the tenta match was really rough, too, you know, it's a, it'd be, if, if, if, if, if, could, it can now, if Ozzawa is out for any length of time, I mean, just give it how high he's been as a star and like how he's been, no, it's biggest draw.
1:30:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll be really interesting to see how Noah, you know, goes on without him.
1:30:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess, let's see how, how many of these fans are showing up specifically for him.
1:30:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah.
1:30:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the, I wouldn't like to record on a match because it wasn't very good even before the sudden injury established.
1:31:04
[SPEAKER_05]: So, but that's obviously not the story.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_05]: The story is, uh, a, uh, a, hopefully not being a seriously hers.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like you could have been.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, these semi-made events, the only non-torn match of the show, Haromu Takahashi defeats Yohei in 1747 with the time bomb two.
1:31:21
[SPEAKER_05]: So Yohei fails in his fifth
1:31:26
[SPEAKER_05]: This was great.
1:31:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the two of them, they started out, this was by match of the night.
1:31:30
[SPEAKER_05]: They just started really, really fast as you probably expect from both guys.
1:31:34
[SPEAKER_05]: The only thing I will say for the matches, they did slow down a little bit in the middle.
1:31:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, they did like some cool little outside drawing that I like.
1:31:41
[SPEAKER_05]: They did a lot of like hard chops out there and they were
1:31:44
[SPEAKER_05]: setting each other in the barricade.
1:31:46
[SPEAKER_05]: There was like this spot back in the ring where Yohay countered this herromo barrier into this sort of like funky cradle.
1:31:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at thing that could have gotten a little smoother, I thought.
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_05]: It just looked kind of clunky and slow.
1:31:57
[SPEAKER_05]: But once they got going again, they really got going.
1:32:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yohay countered the time bomb into a crucifix bomb.
1:32:04
[SPEAKER_05]: That looked great.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Herromo came right back though and got it for real the second time.
1:32:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And Yohei just barely kicked out, and the crowd was super fired up at this point.
1:32:12
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a huge Yohei chant.
1:32:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Haromo goes for time bomb two, and Yohei kind of just slow the escapes out to the corner.
1:32:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Harubu, though, ends up bringing him back down with an
1:32:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Avalanche Sound Tom time bomb, you'll hear kicks out again.
1:32:27
[SPEAKER_05]: The crowd is really like loudly chanting for them again.
1:32:30
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you'll hear escapes the time bomb too.
1:32:33
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a perfect looking Canadian destroyer.
1:32:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Great, great Canadian destroyer there.
1:32:37
[SPEAKER_05]: And gives a pair of drop kicks for a two count.
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_05]: But Hiromu catches Yohe in mid-air going for something else, and he has the time bomb too, and that gets the pen.
1:32:46
[SPEAKER_05]: So not a perfect match or anything, I mean, it had its flaws, but I thought it was super exciting, super heated.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_05]: So I went four stars flat on it, and I gave my match the night air with Hiromu winning the junior title.
1:32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it was very, like, very clearly the best match of the night, I think, as well.
1:33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Mostly because of the crowd investment.
1:33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not just because of the crowd investment, but the crowd investment is something that can really bring a match to another level to me.
1:33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was very much the Kings here.
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it is no secret to you that I am a huge Yohei guy.
1:33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was, okay, I love Heromu as well.
1:33:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I was obviously a little bit disappointed, but the angle at the end where he basically got
1:33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: surrounded by a gang of newer juniors was really, really cool.
1:33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: The match itself, again, amazing.
1:33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Yohei has really been on the run of his life with this title, and I think he's, you know, as obviously sad as I am that he lost it, I think he did.
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, have all of the elements for it to be a really defining title rain for him.
1:33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He, you know, he won the title and then he finally beat Hayata, which was really the whole whole thing that he needed.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's been great.
1:34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think his performance has been great.
1:34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He continued to grow as a wrestler.
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He arguably did his most growth as a wrestler in these last couple of years and throughout this rain and, um,
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, he's I don't know if this is like the first and last for him, but if it was I think he did incredibly well, I'm super super proud of him incredibly weird things to say about a 37 year old man.
1:34:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know, yeah, I mean, you know, you've known me for a long time.
1:34:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You know how much I, I should for your, um, yeah.
1:34:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, what I was going to bring up is I noticed three, because two, two of your late all-time favorite wrestlers, both won a title this year, and I noticed your reaction to Yohei losing his title was very different to your reaction to UT losing the brigade and dragon gate, and it just felt like Yohei got more of an actual rain.
1:34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you bring that up?
1:34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, I just thought, I just thought because you're talking about favorites having dental rains, I thought it was interesting, but you thought you, I was just going to compare it, I guess, you know, I had a much better general right I thought you're he definitely got a much better time of rain, I have a lot of thoughts about the way that UT's rain was handled, I don't know if I have time to get into all of them, but.
1:35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, I guess this is the return on investment that I've been I've been waiting for, but obviously a super super proud of your hey, I was extremely proud of you as well, like no amount of bad booking can take away how proud I am with him.
1:35:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, super proud of you.
1:35:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I think he did really, really well.
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that even for the company to trust him to be in that spot with her room, who is arguably the most popular junior heavyweight like jet Japanese junior heavyweight of like the past 10 years, I think.
1:35:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I think really, really goes to show how much he's built himself into a real asset for Noah.
1:36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I'm excited.
1:36:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that Hiromu will be around.
1:36:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always a little apprehensive about guys from the outside winning titles and companies that I watch.
1:36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though I love Hiromu, I don't really know what his status is right now.
1:36:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Although I guess he's not going to be too busy because I think the next New Japan show is a heavyweight, next New Japan tour is like the heavyweight tag lead.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Now that you're tag lead first.
1:36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the junior tag league title is first, okay, well, then I don't know, but it's still probably going to be fun to see him square off with the no aduners and I'm looking forward to that.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of downtime in these coming months for him to come back and work, New Japan.
1:36:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, no, I'm like, he's clearly not doing anything in New Japan right now anyway, and a lot of people think he might leave when his contract is up, since obviously they don't left.
1:36:53
[SPEAKER_05]: So this even could be like a soft jump or something, you know, it wouldn't surprise me.
1:36:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I have to wait and see.
1:36:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I haven't saw people speculating he might be trying to
1:37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they can say, okay.
1:37:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because he did that forbidden door match and apparently was like, um, really talking up Tony, come on afterwards.
1:37:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.
1:37:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but yeah, um, but yeah, we'll see what happens.
1:37:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think her own will be around.
1:37:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, clearly, they definitely set the A to defense afterward, it may be wonder if they would do that.
1:37:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe on their real Goku show next month.
1:37:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, because they have real Goku booked out to over 11th.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_05]: It's interesting to me if it's interesting to me that they would do that though of considering New Japan's running the same building two days later.
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
1:37:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think it would be strange to not have a big title defense at a bit, you'll like this, but again, I'm not the bushy roadwards in mysterious ways.
1:37:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that is true.
1:37:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we had the main event, which was, oh, the other thing I should mention too, is her Romu is currently booked against another former Noah Jr.
1:38:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Taiji Ashimori, and I'm coming to Japan so I think that's booked for King destruction in Kobe.
1:38:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me just confirm that.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So I wonder if they'll change that to a title match.
1:38:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's booked for destruction and co-may.
1:38:17
[SPEAKER_05]: It's forced from the top and special singles match.
1:38:21
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't surprise me if they asked no information to change that to a title match.
1:38:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Because obviously you have all the history to your issue, Mauri, as I told you.
1:38:31
[SPEAKER_05]: So that would be interesting.
1:38:33
[SPEAKER_05]: It will also explain why that match is giving billing above the IWGP tag and the never title right now.
1:38:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, so we'll guess we'll if so that gets changed return on that to what it's a prized me because we'll say Main event Kaito here Mia defeating Kenta and the A block in 1349 with the Skywalk elbow
1:38:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know.
1:38:55
[SPEAKER_05]: This one never clicked for me.
1:38:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I saw some people on our on the voice wrestling discord who were like, no, regular viewers seemed to like it a lot.
1:39:02
[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe it was more of a me thing.
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I just didn't really enjoy this one.
1:39:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, it started that with like yet more crowd-brawling, which just felt like a theme that was very well-trained on this show at this point.
1:39:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So, um, and then at, you know, back in the ring, there was this like,
1:39:18
[SPEAKER_05]: really long body sitters from Kenta that just felt like a one-on-for-ever.
1:39:22
[SPEAKER_05]: It's match.
1:39:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
1:39:24
[SPEAKER_05]: It was really boring for me for a lot of it.
1:39:26
[SPEAKER_05]: The end of it was good.
1:39:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they had some really hard striking as you always expect from a Kenta match.
1:39:32
[SPEAKER_05]: He wins the strike exchange, hits the bushyaku knee for a two count, but Kaito then escapes to go to sleep and gets an inside cradle for his own very close near fall.
1:39:42
[SPEAKER_05]: But then, yeah, just when I was getting into it, it just felt like Kato just had a one out of nowhere with that elbow of his.
1:39:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know, the student just didn't do a lot for me.
1:39:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I went like two and three quarters on it, just pretty disappointing, I thought, for a big, for the first nightmare in a van with two wrestlers, I generally enjoy.
1:39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I will say though, this is like the most I've enjoyed Paito in a lot.
1:40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought my issues with Paito in like the past year and a half, where I felt like he was kind of lost even when he was the champion.
1:40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: um... i think him leaning more into being a little bit unhinged really works for me um... i don't know i i thought it was weird that i didn't get more time i thought it was weird that like i thought kaito is gonna win i i had kaito winning this one but i don't know something felt off about it i don't know if if some if it's something got changed or whatever but
1:40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine, but not the match you want as the main event of the first show of attorney events.
1:40:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much how I feel too.
1:40:50
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, you know, up and down, up and down show.
1:40:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, obviously, if Ozawa is hurt, that's going to be the story.
1:40:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll have to wait and see for any update on Ozawa's injury status.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Even putting that aside, I thought it was like, you know, there's some stuff I really liked and some stuff I just thought was there.
1:41:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.
1:41:08
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of how we're expecting this whole tournament to go on this side.
1:41:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So the shows coming up in this coming week, there's three more shows before we'll be back on the air on Oma Kase.
1:41:19
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's quickly to go over them.
1:41:21
[SPEAKER_05]: And for now, I'll list those out as matches until we hear these pulled out, but it wouldn't surprise even on these happen.
1:41:26
[SPEAKER_05]: So the Thursday, September 11th, they go to Okayama at the Okayama Convention Center.
1:41:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Fujita vs. Daga and Olga vs. Endo.
1:41:42
[SPEAKER_05]: The B-block has three matches, so it galley on on Haritoki at the night off, is Daki and Naba vs. Ozawa, Marifuji vs. Kanel and Jack Morris vs. Ricky Nate Jr.
1:41:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, bare Fuji can know, I guess, kind of stands out there, although it's also kind of like what what can they even do at this point of matter Fuji, um, other this this looks like kind of a, I mean, Kaido and Masa should be really good.
1:42:07
[SPEAKER_05]: That's probably the big standout match.
1:42:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
1:42:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, then Saturday the 13th, they go to the Hiroshima Industrial Hall East Exhibition Hall.
1:42:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Three matches in a block, this time it's Kaito and Endo at the day off.
1:42:21
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's Ken Devers' Daga, Olga's Oka vs. Massa, and Manavu Soya vs. Frugida.
1:42:29
[SPEAKER_05]: B-block also three matches.
1:42:30
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm just saying only a six match tournament show here.
1:42:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's Ricky Knight and Kenna with the night off and B-block.
1:42:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Marifu diverse as Jack Morris, Galliano versus Dakey and Naba and Harutokey versus Ozawa.
1:42:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I know this is so really.
1:42:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think this job really has to stand out match at all for me really.
1:42:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
1:42:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing really jumps out of me there.
1:42:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe all covers is kid of me.
1:42:54
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
1:43:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Sunday, the 14th, they go to Fukuoka.
1:43:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Three A-block matches, Oka and Daga have the night off.
1:43:08
[SPEAKER_05]: It's Ken Devers' massacre to me at that one.
1:43:10
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a match.
1:43:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really looking forward to.
1:43:12
[SPEAKER_05]: That should be really good.
1:43:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Kaito Kiyomiya versus Kazuki Fujita, Sorya versus Endo,
1:43:19
[SPEAKER_05]: and then B-block, Galiano versus Ozawa, Kano versus Jack Morris, Haratoki, Haratoki versus Rihina Junior, and Mara Fuji versus Inaaba.
1:43:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So those are your three upcoming shows in the N1, which we'll be talking about on next week's show.
1:43:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so moving over to drag and gate now, so this is most we haven't covered in a while.
1:43:40
[SPEAKER_05]: The last time I covered it on this show was the Kobe world show, which I thought was a really good show.
1:43:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Just again, a lot of promotions kind of fell by the way, site again during the combined G1 and five star craziness, but they're definitely promotion.
1:43:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to cover more because I also think they're having a very good year.
1:44:01
[SPEAKER_05]: One thing I want to ask you about is, you know, your far more regular dragon gave you or the meat at this point.
1:44:06
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you think about some of their attendance struggles?
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_05]: They did 1,098 for the show, which, you know, again, they're probably looked even swallowing that to me than the announced crowd.
1:44:19
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you think are some of the reasons why they're not doing great attendance as a series, even with the, even with the, I think most people would agree
1:44:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I, I, to be honest with you, I care about like for my own enjoyment, I try not to think about these things to just ends up bumming me out, but I, I really honestly, I, not really sure.
1:44:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they're really trying hard with a lot of the younger guys these days.
1:44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that they're trying to put their best foot forward on a lot of ways.
1:45:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really, I wish I had an answer for you, but I don't really know, it's kind of sad to see, especially I think for that one, you really notice it.
1:45:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I don't really know, because I, I follow a lot of Japanese fans who seem to like really be having a great time.
1:45:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't know.
1:45:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're kind of struggling maybe to like draw more casual viewers that could fill those seats.
1:45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, I think this is always kind of been a driving aid thing where everything is so dense that it's not the easiest promotion to get into.
1:45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I don't know.
1:45:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
1:45:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Because they're very self-contained universe, you know, where it's like, you kind of, I feel like I see less, to like fall a lot of Japanese fans on Twitter, just like I'm sure you do.
1:46:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like I see less crossover dragging gay fans in any other promotion.
1:46:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's also just because I've had the pleasure of getting your couple people into Dragon Gate recently, and it's the kind of realization that you can't explain a single story and have it be self-contained, you have to branch out into everybody else that's ever been involved.
1:46:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think maybe it's like a lot of word for some people, but yeah,
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I, you know, you'll come, I've come across a lot of fans who, you know what, they watch like, huge pan and start, I mean, DDT and, you know, they watch a little Noah and they watch a little entrepreneur, but you very rarely come across fans who watch like a little dragon day on top of all the other promotions they watch.
1:46:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a similar to dragon gate people are just like very specifically dragon gate people.
1:46:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I think it just takes up a lot of brain
1:46:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but yeah, specifically talking about Japanese fans there, what's convenient?
1:47:01
[SPEAKER_05]: They've been like, you see more, you see more people in follow up.
1:47:04
[SPEAKER_05]: We follow like a lot of pure almost right and gay.
1:47:06
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's always felt like that would be what Dragon Gate or the, they have their core fan base and they really can struggle more to draw from the more, I guess we would call like general Japanese smart type fan.
1:47:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's funny because there's a couple of Japanese ultra pan fans that I follow that recently got into Dragon Gate.
1:47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It would actually be fun, but I don't know if that's enough is the problem.
1:47:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think their problem is really with kind of drawing those more casual people.
1:47:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:47:34
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, and I think the other thing I think of too with them is like, they were almost way ahead of the curve when it comes to drawing Japanese women, right?
1:47:43
[SPEAKER_05]: As a primary audience.
1:47:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And now everybody kind of does that.
1:47:46
[SPEAKER_05]: So I wonder if it's almost like they, like if you look at a DDT show now, it's like 80% women.
1:47:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
1:47:52
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's, you know, the New Japan shows are way more young women than young men.
1:47:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, I think that is kind of, you know, like, no, I, you can see them see a lot of women in all Japan.
1:48:02
[SPEAKER_05]: So like, I think dragon gates like secret sauce of like, you know, having having like very attractive men on the card to dry and women like women fans who want to check it out for that reason, then get hooked.
1:48:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's kind of spread to everybody at this point, so it's funny because they still do quite a bit of what I would call fan service by wrestling standards.
1:48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they do their like themes portraits, they recently did like a ranking where like the top 10 people got like personal personalites photo books, you see got number three by the way.
1:48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they do like all their fan events where you get to like really interact They do like the Okinawa tour where you basically get to like hang out on the beach with the roster So they're really trying but I don't know.
1:48:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's yeah every a lot of other promotions Now have like mostly female fan bases.
1:48:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what they really should do is appeal to the projocies Which they can already but do it more
1:49:06
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I just thought that yeah, but that was interesting to hear your thoughts on that.
1:49:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that's um, that's something that's not what we want to watch these shows.
1:49:14
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I just like, I kind of wish that we're doing better, especially giving, you know, you see these patch cork and zow for DDT and Noah and Stardum and it feels like Dragon Gate and all, all Japan too are kind of like lagging behind the hot promotions right now.
1:49:30
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
1:49:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't even really talk it up to the people that left any more because it's been
1:49:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hello, yeah, I don't know.
1:49:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the start of the show, we get the introduction of the new heel unit and dragon gate, the rebranded former zebra to our now, Gajad Docollo, which means we are, we are snake skulls.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, it's a, so it's a pun because there's a famous yokai beast called the Gajad Docollo, which is just literally that just means rattling skeleton.
1:50:04
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like this giant skeleton
1:50:11
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I watch a couple of super-sensei series, but never they're like, we can power inverse.
1:50:17
[SPEAKER_05]: OK, well, that's it.
1:50:18
[SPEAKER_05]: That way either way, because that's, I just felt like it would be more likely.
1:50:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So there were two different super-sensei that use the Yokei as their monsters, or the monsters of the series.
1:50:34
[SPEAKER_05]: And both of them did a version of Gasha Dokevo.
1:50:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's now a connection.
1:50:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's the the the ninja one taco ranger, which was like the then the 90s and then and then the samurai one That what the fuck was it called I don't think I think she can change in kanger
1:50:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Which is like, she cages on the best ones actually, but yeah, they both used your okay.
1:50:59
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll actually, I don't know.
1:51:01
[SPEAKER_05]: May not have been she cages.
1:51:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me say it.
1:51:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me just start to gacha.
1:51:04
[SPEAKER_05]: I know for sure that it was in gacha.
1:51:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Doke roll, the gacha.org monster was in what's it called in the Packer Ranger, but let me see if I can find the senti beast.
1:51:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so yeah, this, no, this one was actually on the other Ninja one, Ninja.
1:51:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I haven't seen.
1:51:24
[SPEAKER_05]: OK.
1:51:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Giant YoKai, gosh, I don't go.
1:51:27
[SPEAKER_05]: So that was from Inanger.
1:51:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess they didn't do a shinkanger version.
1:51:31
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, the funny thing is the Cocker Ranger 1, which is named as Young Noble Jr.
1:51:37
[SPEAKER_05]: and Cocker Ranger, he was adapted into Power Rangers as Retail Revolto,
1:51:42
[SPEAKER_05]: the brother in our, you know, the main vocal.
1:51:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:51:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's like a very famous towering just character.
1:51:50
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a kind of a big, kind of a big goofball.
1:51:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And now he has like a very, so now he's a direct link between, and he's based on Gashadokuro.
1:51:59
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's a direct link now from the
1:52:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And it called to give me a look in this like what the fuck are you talking about right now.
1:52:09
[SPEAKER_04]: To get powering to this.
1:52:15
[SPEAKER_05]: She walked in the room like as that was happening.
1:52:17
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was trying to just give me like lots of what the fuck looks.
1:52:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's it's funny because there's I don't think there is a Tokusatsu nerd on the roster anymore.
1:52:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wants to do one for Toku nerd?
1:52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
1:52:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
1:52:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:52:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Can this have a couple of years inspired?
1:52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Mostly, I can't write, I think.
1:52:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there's a bunch of anime nerds.
1:52:40
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a bunch of K-pop nerds.
1:52:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know that there is a super centi or Tokusatsu in general.
1:52:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Who are the anime nerds?
1:52:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Junior.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm actually so stupid, I tried to forget he exists these days.
1:52:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Topicalize the super centiner.
1:53:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, well, there you go.
1:53:02
[SPEAKER_05]: So he probably knew about this.
1:53:04
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, ha.
1:53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
1:53:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he got, I think he's he had gear inspired by one of the most recent camera writers.
1:53:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, Junior is a huge Jojo fan.
1:53:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:53:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not really my show either.
1:53:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've like read or seen it.
1:53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, gosh, gosh, I don't grow.
1:53:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because a lot of Japanese fans were like, you guys look so lame.
1:53:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they didn't like it.
1:53:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they thought that it was like tri-hard.
1:53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And like they were trying to make themselves look like the linkwence.
1:53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But I really like, I personally really like it.
1:53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, because it's been a really long time.
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel since a dragongate unit has taken such direct inspiration from specifically Japanese folklore.
1:53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I think is, I think is really cool and also because of the lore itself of the Dasha Lokrittle, which is, and I'm reading this off Wikipedia, so this is not, we're not doing a deep diver anything, but it's a spirit that takes the form of a giant skeleton, made of the scroll, the people who died in the battlefield, or a starvation slash famine.
1:54:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's, I don't know, I think that's badass for a hill unit, especially one that seems to be based more around anger
1:54:21
[SPEAKER_02]: rather than just like a desire to cost chaos, we have, you know, people like Keita, Jason, Minora, who are all very driven by frustration and anger.
1:54:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, which is kind of the divide between them and the triangle gate team, um, But I don't get a more of the China anymore, like like joyful heels and the other three are more like anchor heels.
1:54:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, big very much.
1:54:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
1:54:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the theming Japanese fans.
1:54:46
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of them seem to think he was like kind of like, try hard, but I really like it.
1:54:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I like the theme song a lot too, they they almost never mess for the hill unit these songs.
1:54:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So with the rattle sound.
1:54:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good.
1:54:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so then you can see this is the thing when the gosh I don't know approaches it is said to make a plattering sound with its teeth.
1:55:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So they really apparently did at least a little bit of research.
1:55:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so there you go, let's see it.
1:55:14
[SPEAKER_05]: That's Gajah, don't go RLD, snake skulls.
1:55:18
[SPEAKER_05]: The show, first opening match with its motifs if you do near it defeating Kazumi Timura in 9-11 with a German suplex hold.
1:55:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I have never seen Kazumi before, I don't think.
1:55:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the United States, well, the United States probably only been wrestling for a month, and I was like, oh, well, that explains it, because you haven't seen a dragon get in the last month.
1:55:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So some very hard shop exchanges here that make sense with king of shop apparently returning soon.
1:55:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And Mochi Junior ends up pinning him with a gnarly German suplex old very fun opener here.
1:55:54
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought, especially for a guy a month in his career when three and a half stars really enjoy this.
1:55:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm a big fan of Junior.
1:56:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think what's been really, really fun with Junior, especially in, since the dissolution of M3K, has been seeing him come into his own, without overreliance on what his father obviously does and what his father taught him.
1:56:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You can still see shades of the bloodline because obviously,
1:56:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think he's really developed into like his own wrestler and really, really fun and interesting way.
1:56:28
[SPEAKER_02]: His soup like says, our fucking amazing.
1:56:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He just really goes for it and it's great.
1:56:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big, big fan of the kid.
1:56:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so crazy to me that
1:56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Moto Zuki has a grown-ass adult son, who's a wrestler, will never stop being weird, but I'm a big fan of Junior.
1:56:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really like Kimura, he has a judo background that I think he would do well to lean more into.
1:56:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I could definitely see him adopting kind of a similar style as, I don't know if you're familiar with Koji Yuamoto.
1:57:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
1:57:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I'm also is probably one of my favorite kind of like guys that came from judo and really incorporated that into their style.
1:57:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Kimura should go that route.
1:57:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would do, it would do him a lot of good because we don't really have a guy that does that in driving gate.
1:57:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my, my thoughts.
1:57:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't think about it remotely because he's mostly been wrestling for the ten-year ten-year project that's shutting down in like a month or so so it makes me wonder where he's going to go.
1:57:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I would love to see him well, I mean, I would love to see him come back to all Japan, but I would, so I'm going to say that, especially if Nomadai is going to stick around, we'll see.
1:57:48
[SPEAKER_05]: match number two, don't actually after the first match, the module came out afterward and invited the chemora into paradox, but chemora declined because they didn't think he's ready yet and then he would come into play again at the end of the show as we'll get to match number two, Don Fuji, Takashi, and Problem Dragon defeated, Strog machine J, KZ, and UT,
1:58:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Don Fuji, so he come down with his belt like, what the fuck is that?
1:58:21
[SPEAKER_05]: He's one third of the war six-band tag team champion with, uh, can he show a rye and brother Yashi of all people?
1:58:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I fucking love it.
1:58:30
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, what a random team, don't lose you, brother, Yashji and Eric in, okay, what a team, what a team, okay, buddy, the generation never dies.
1:58:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to, I've been to Yashji's bar, by the way, I don't know, if you, it's probably my son's son, but that's really cool, I love, you know, I mean, you know, you know, this is one of my, Yashji's one of my guys, that's my, that's my good friend, that's my mutual on Twitter.
1:58:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's it.
1:58:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um, I mean, what is, what, what year is it?
1:59:01
[SPEAKER_02]: What else would there to say, but what fucking year is it?
1:59:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, listen, I find talk I should to be very endearing as a person.
1:59:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
1:59:15
[SPEAKER_05]: That's it.
1:59:16
[SPEAKER_05]: That's it.
1:59:18
[SPEAKER_05]: That's just probably the way you end just that.
1:59:20
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a great guy.
1:59:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great guy.
1:59:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great guy.
1:59:24
[SPEAKER_02]: He's clearly beloved by everybody he works with.
1:59:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just endlessly frustrated that this is all they have for UT.
1:59:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I don't know.
1:59:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even want to talk about it.
1:59:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because it was kind of a nothing match to begin with.
1:59:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my note, I worked out my notes is for sure a message happened to an half.
1:59:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically, I mean, you know, there's one of those on every show I feel like I'm just kind of myth that it has to be the one that you see is involved in, but whatever.
1:59:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, to catch he like his popularity is almost inexplicable at this point, but the crowd, the crowd is doing it himself really well, I think.
2:00:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, a match number three and another our eight man tag team match actually.
2:00:14
[SPEAKER_05]: The Mochisuki Dojo, Masake Mochizuki, Ryu Funa, Daki Yana Guchi, and Akihiro Sahara, defeating Yamato, BB Hulk, Tsuchimiro Kosuka, and Kagatora of the Paradox Unit.
2:00:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Pruda pinned Kagatora in 19.
2:00:36
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I really enjoyed the old school, Susubur mochi battle we got in this match, too.
2:00:40
[SPEAKER_05]: That's always really fun when those two go out each other again.
2:00:43
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, the big one here is obviously where you're food out, pitting Kagetura, which is the crowd one pretty crazy for.
2:00:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And then a fun little match, Chantelman's three level stuff.
2:00:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a big fan of all the Dojo kids.
2:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, food uh, I have investment in food.
2:01:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I have starts in food.
2:01:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I have starts in food out of the way that I have starts in U.T.
2:01:08
[SPEAKER_02]: in like 2016, which probably doesn't vote well for him.
2:01:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I do, you know, he's, I've decided to stick with him.
2:01:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm happy that they're finally giving him the push that he was, I mean, the mini push.
2:01:21
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not winning the match.
2:01:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm happy that they're, that they're finally giving him the kind of push
2:01:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really happy to see him really coming to his own as a wrestler.
2:01:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, he started out as this very kicky, very straightforward kicky guy.
2:01:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He started doing more and more fancy stuff.
2:01:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He debuted like three different finishers in the span of a month, including the one that he pinned character with, which I think is a really cool move.
2:01:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I'm just excited for him.
2:01:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I again, you know me one side.
2:01:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he said get on with a guy.
2:01:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter how long it takes.
2:01:57
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get there.
2:01:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also I really, really like Sada, he's a standout rookie for me in like across Japanese promotions.
2:02:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that we have another big guy in Dragon Gate.
2:02:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that he's decided apparently that his thing is to just pounce on everyone.
2:02:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because it really works with those guys that fly really easily.
2:02:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, again, Mochazuki is just Mochazuki.
2:02:21
[SPEAKER_02]: What else is there to say?
2:02:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You love to see it.
2:02:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I love him.
2:02:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Susumu.
2:02:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I like pretty much everyone in this match.
2:02:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I've decided to reconcile with Gato.
2:02:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, I really enjoyed it.
2:02:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the story was food.
2:02:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that all of the Dojo kids did a great job.
2:02:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Dike is like, basically the best baby face that you've ever possibly once.
2:02:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is his home crowd so obviously everybody one crazy for anything that he was doing and yeah, really enjoyable
2:02:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we got the three-way tag team match.
2:02:58
[SPEAKER_05]: So the team of Shoen Skyrocket, Homara, I guess the last breath standing, you call them.
2:03:04
[SPEAKER_05]: They defeated Dragon Kid, Nurekidoi, and Yukio Shioca and Dragon Dia.
2:03:10
[SPEAKER_05]: It was Shoen, Penny and Dragon Dia, in 10 or 7 with the psychic ray, because it's cool little double team flip DDT, that he and Homara do together.
2:03:22
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, this was like a little spotty and messy at times, which is not expected given it was a three-way tag, but I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
2:03:28
[SPEAKER_05]: So I still went three and a quarter.
2:03:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So one of those matches were like the messiness didn't did fact too much from it for me.
2:03:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I think there's a couple of things about this match.
2:03:38
[SPEAKER_02]: The first obviously Shun and Homade, I love that they kept them together.
2:03:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so worried that they were going to go like the easy way out of just turning Homade on Shun when Shun lost the dream gate, but that didn't happen.
2:03:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm super happy that they're taking together.
2:03:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And they still have a twin gate shot that they never cashed in from winning Rade Parichas earlier this year.
2:04:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically what happened is they won the tournament by beating Jason and Menorra with our the champions at the time, but they never cashed in because I don't know, they were in the same unit, shoot one of the dream gate, shoot Skywalker, dustings and mysterious ways.
2:04:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But considering that they pinned one half of the raining champions, I'm kind of wondering if they're eventually finally going to end up cashing in that title shot that I think everybody
2:04:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I enjoyed it.
2:04:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Dory just getting caught into all of it because they recently teamed with him.
2:04:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think on his anniversary show, he even got like his own bespoke mask and everything, which was really fun.
2:04:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dory, you know, it's just Dory.
2:04:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to love that guy.
2:04:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He's never going to give a bad and kid that hard, but you got to love him anyway.
2:04:59
[SPEAKER_05]: I do love their whole dynamic is like so fucking funny to me is a long time obviously the long time fan just loved watching them interact every time.
2:05:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just incredibly hilarious to me because Doi obviously is like the most soon that it's ever, soon, ever.
2:05:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's just always been like that.
2:05:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's incredibly funny to me is that he has at least two pairs of gear that were made specifically to match dragon kids, but he's still one hugged the man.
2:05:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why is your fucking problem, Nuri Kidoi?
2:05:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess we'll find out, well, we'll probably never find out.
2:05:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, one of the problems is problem is he is directly do I. He is 25 years of this boy you're never going to need.
2:05:54
[SPEAKER_05]: match number six, the trio of yo Benke and Rita from the love and peace unit defeating Gajadoka Rose Jason Lee co-dominora and.
2:06:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Madoka Kikata, Ben Kaye, Penning, Minora, and 334 with a spear.
2:06:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know this was like a really, really, really quick match, but while it was, while it was lasted, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but yeah, Jason Lee, he carried an actual skull out with him.
2:06:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I'm probably not a real human, probably not a real human skull actually, but a skull.
2:06:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Jason has been really into accessorizing since he turned heel.
2:06:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a new fun, new metal and accessories.
2:06:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's this thing.
2:06:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like I do like to do like vaguely goth look for all three of these guys.
2:06:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it looked good on the all them.
2:06:46
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, Ben K. So Ben K gets his chair broken over his head, but he goes into zombie mode and just fucking cleansed house with everybody and he just spears been nowhere out of midair and suddenly gets the pen.
2:06:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Fun is how a lot lasted.
2:06:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Three stars really really fun.
2:06:59
[SPEAKER_05]: The one three minute match.
2:07:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so bad.
2:07:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
2:07:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And then.
2:07:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the more when we're benchators and those all the chair shot had me jumping out of my seat.
2:07:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so hyped for it.
2:07:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was just perfect.
2:07:14
[SPEAKER_02]: His face was perfect.
2:07:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Benca is really, really, really coming to his own like a second time.
2:07:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's kind of he's had a really weird kind of trajectory.
2:07:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but everything's been really working for him over the past, like, year, um, even though they botched his second drink ain't anyway, um, I don't know.
2:07:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy.
2:07:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy everybody in this match.
2:07:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Minora is someone who has a lot of people talking negatively about him.
2:07:43
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, he's one of the most fascinating characters in Dragon Gate currently, um,
2:07:51
[SPEAKER_02]: gifted kid burnout arc, which I find really interesting, but yeah, three minutes, it's three minutes.
2:07:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It was about as much fun as you were going to get out of it.
2:08:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And then K rules is always the conclusion that we come to at the end.
2:08:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, the menorah, you know, I'm sure even from afar, you can see the parallels.
2:08:12
[SPEAKER_05]: He feels like the shoto umi now of dragon gate or like he's a younger guy or he's a younger guy.
2:08:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of people don't seem to like him and everything he does is very over-analyzed.
2:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and people are kind of talking about him in the same way that they talk about Uminu where they're basically taught saying that he should just hang it up at this point, which I think is fucking insane, like just the same thing to say.
2:08:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't like a Japanese restaurant or 20, so yeah, really, really.
2:08:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think because he debuted quite young and he was, I think this is a discussion that I've been having about Minora for like a year and a half is that he's unfortunately the sea
2:08:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I really, really hope for him that things are going to pan out better than they did for Sea Hawk.
2:08:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has all of the tools.
2:08:58
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like great.
2:09:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's got a great appeal as just as a wrestler.
2:09:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He's I really, really like what he does as a wrestler.
2:09:07
[SPEAKER_02]: The heel stuff he's clearly still figuring out.
2:09:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I really like his character art and I think that things are going to work out.
2:09:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I really want to believe that things are going to work out for him.
2:09:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so this one for Ben K sets up him getting a dream gauge against Kikuta on October 8th, back at Corican.
2:09:28
[SPEAKER_05]: So speaking of how much we like it when promotions run big telemixes of Corican, that's a big telematch.
2:09:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
2:09:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be really good.
2:09:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I think Kikuta, Kikuta really unlocked something special when he turns you, um, it just works for him and Ben K is Ben K.
2:09:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really can't see unless and this is going to be my kind of problem is that I grew really bored of the Zebrats Interviewing some antics for a lot of like the last part of their run So that's kind of the only thing that I could see dragging this match down, but if Ben K does what Ben K did in this match
2:10:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're really in business.
2:10:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.
2:10:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, match number six, the open the brave gate title.
2:10:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I know this is not a wrestler you're like a, you enjoy talking about.
2:10:20
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll try to keep it quite real yet to DACA defeats Jackie, Kame and 1450, they started as press to make his third successful defense.
2:10:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, I thought this was a very good match.
2:10:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely the match of the show.
2:10:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, very, there's a very nice flipping dive by Tanaka on to pretty much all of love and peace every side early on.
2:10:43
[SPEAKER_05]: That was really cool.
2:10:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And the match at the end, it had that.
2:10:46
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, that insane final sequence that you get out of a big dragon gate match when they're really good, what they just went back and forth is kicking out everything to knock on just barely kicks out of a pair of cradles he catches Jackie with this big step up in the Geary he had see Oz cutter and the buzz saw kick for
2:11:05
[SPEAKER_05]: A zone very close near fall crowd is like totally losing their shit to which all these helps and then to knock a winch of these artists press Incredible closing stretch makes an easy four stars for me and definitely the best match of the show So here's the bang I'm really like time icon I'm really really do it's not him.
2:11:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's me I was gonna be sour on anyone that beat you to
2:11:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just my burden to bear, that's, you know, whatever.
2:11:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really like Tomacca.
2:11:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always thought he was a great, great, great prospect for the break gate scene.
2:11:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Same as Jackie.
2:11:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I think those two, I remember, there was a match in November of 2023.
2:11:51
[SPEAKER_02]: The first match of the Tomacca wrestle doesn't remember of D.K.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H
2:12:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And those two were involved in the closing stretch with Jackie Pitting Tanaka.
2:12:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember thinking, I've rewatched this match a lot because I really, really like it.
2:12:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I always thought that those two had a great brave get match in them.
2:12:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And they clearly do.
2:12:15
[SPEAKER_02]: They clearly do.
2:12:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Jackie's great, Tanaka is great, although his body is terrifying, please bring some water.
2:12:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have a mental block.
2:12:27
[SPEAKER_02]: that I'm going to need to get over, because I'm a fucking adult person, but yeah, I do want to dispel the myths and rumors that I don't like where you're at.
2:12:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Here you're at Tadakah.
2:12:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really like Tadakah.
2:12:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's great.
2:12:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think, and this is going to sound so hypocritical, I do think that he's not exactly in a position to lead, in the sense that I think he, he's had, he's been lucky that he's had really, really great opponents.
2:12:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, he's really great himself,
2:12:57
[SPEAKER_02]: There were times where he felt a little bit like he was waiting for something, but overall, I really like those two guys.
2:13:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Jackie is a miracle because everything about him is so corny, but it just works.
2:13:19
[SPEAKER_02]: The year is terrible.
2:13:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The music I really love, but it's so
2:13:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's really, he's really, really fucking great.
2:13:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I always thought those two had a great brave date match in them, even from they were, when Tanaq, I was still very, very green because that match was in November.
2:13:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he debuted in like, mid-2023.
2:13:41
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I, again, my own mental block aside because I was gonna be sour on anyone that defeated UT, especially this soon, and I'm not gonna go on a diet ride about everything because I'm still really proud of him.
2:13:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I really enjoyable.
2:13:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Jackie's great, Tana-Tai's great, please bring some water.
2:14:03
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my closing statements.
2:14:04
[SPEAKER_05]: there you go.
2:14:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so looking at what's and now, oh, so we got it, we did get a title, a title challenge here.
2:14:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So we will food a, we will food a came out as the next challenger and that's going to happen in Sendai apparently.
2:14:20
[SPEAKER_05]: So that will be on, that we're seeing exact date, September the 14th, the
2:14:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm actually really looking forward to this for a couple of reasons.
2:14:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is going to be my big test for Tanaka to see if he can actually lead by himself because Fuda is another guy that lost a lot of time to injury.
2:14:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a type.
2:14:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's never really had this opportunity.
2:14:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to get it against Ishiin in like November of 2023.
2:14:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't get it.
2:14:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have a lot of experience in big singles matches, so I'm really counting him on Tomacats to get in there with him.
2:15:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I'm really looking forward to seeing how their styles were flash, because they're so different.
2:15:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Jackie and Tomacats are two guys that were always going to mesh, but I'm really interested to see how it's going to go for Fudat.
2:15:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't just think to cut me off by the way.
2:15:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, exciting, Fudat's going to lose, but he's going to
2:15:25
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go, there, so now we get to the main event.
2:15:30
[SPEAKER_05]: So I saw a lot of people seem to really like this.
2:15:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately, I just did not get into it at all.
2:15:35
[SPEAKER_05]: This was Gajadokoro, Kai Ishin, and Yoshiki Kato, defeating Fumita Luis Monte and Ben Dito in 2228 in a triangle gate ladder match.
2:15:49
[SPEAKER_05]: So this was a third attempt at defense by Team Mexico.
2:15:53
[SPEAKER_05]: So they failed in their V3 and Gajadokuro became the 95th champions.
2:15:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
2:15:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought this was very, very like sloppy and messy.
2:16:00
[SPEAKER_05]: At one point, they just, they really tried to just, they really just dropped Ben Dito at one point trying to do a triple power bomb on him in the corner.
2:16:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And then just to pick him up and do it again, that looks pretty bad.
2:16:11
[SPEAKER_05]: just like bad like the bad kind of chaos to be like people just running it out nowhere kind of difficult to even follow what's going on.
2:16:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I just wasn't into this at all.
2:16:19
[SPEAKER_05]: It also just felt like it would never end to me before Eion finally just spent missed and flew me that phase at the top of the ladder and just grabbed the belt for the wind where I thought it was kind of a weekend down top everything else.
2:16:30
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I just kind of thought this sucked.
2:16:32
[SPEAKER_05]: I went two stars just for some decent bumps.
2:16:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I've just I've never been a ladder match person like they've just never been a match.
2:16:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I've liked and I've been sick of them for like 20 plus years.
2:16:41
[SPEAKER_05]: So that it was starting at a big deficit for me with that and just it never, it never got me.
2:16:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
2:16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I did enjoy it more than I did enjoy it a lot more than you did.
2:16:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what's interesting is that I think some of the big spots really went about as well as they could have while still kind of walking that tight rope of like, oh, you really got lucky on this one.
2:17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it was just kind of
2:17:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of hopelessly wanted Team Mexico to retain, but it was kind of written in the stars that this new unit was going to win.
2:17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked the team of Ishen and Kato more than I liked the team of Ishen Kato and Kai.
2:17:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Kai is Kai is Kai.
2:17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But Ision and Kato, I think, have incredible potential, and I would have preferred for them to get built as the next Twinge champions, rather than this.
2:17:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Although, you know, there's still time.
2:17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the triangle gates.
2:17:43
[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably going to change hands within the next four weeks.
2:17:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I like to I don't know.
2:17:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed it.
2:17:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The big spots really hit it for me.
2:17:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Ision Ision looks fucking great.
2:17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really, again, another guy that has really come into his own over the past year and a half.
2:18:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Just putting on all that weight and decided to become just a big bad mother fucker.
2:18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it really works for him.
2:18:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Kato has really grown on me as well.
2:18:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Kaya's Kai, I love Luis Montay with all of my heart flimitize amazing and bendy.
2:18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm honestly gonna miss that, got to miss bendy though.
2:18:19
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the end of his time in Dragon Gate.
2:18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I don't know, I thought everybody did as well.
2:18:24
[SPEAKER_02]: About as well as they could have with the map stiff.
2:18:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we got new champions, but I think the math is very much more about the post-much angle.
2:18:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so the post fashion angle, Schoen Skywalker and Omar come out at the end.
2:18:39
[SPEAKER_05]: They confront as Schoen's calls them his former lackeys that he took out of nothing.
2:18:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Which I love how like over the top cocky still is.
2:18:48
[SPEAKER_05]: He's lost the dream gate.
2:18:51
[SPEAKER_05]: He got turned down by all sworn partners and he is completely out of patent.
2:18:55
[SPEAKER_05]: He's still an asshole.
2:18:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's pretty funny.
2:18:58
[SPEAKER_02]: The illusion could've been silly.
2:19:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So he basically tries to nominate him and homeari it alone as the next triangle gate challenges.
2:19:08
[SPEAKER_05]: He just says the three of them are really the entire unit is no match for the two of us.
2:19:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's like he asked GM Rio site to book the match, but site was like, dude, no.
2:19:18
[SPEAKER_05]: You need three people for a triangle gate challenge, this is basic math, there's two of you.
2:19:23
[SPEAKER_05]: So, Shune then invites Kazuma Kebara, who remember early on the night, turned down to Mato's invite to join Paradox.
2:19:30
[SPEAKER_05]: He invites, they invite him to be their partner.
2:19:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And Shune just says, he's like, we can win even with the greenish boy on the roster.
2:19:37
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not what's funny.
2:19:38
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I got the post-match angle was so much better than the actual match.
2:19:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the post-match angle is really fun.
2:19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be really interesting for the reason that I think everybody is expecting Kim Ratsu
2:19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't want him to.
2:19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of want him to get brainwashed and stick around with food.
2:20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I think it's probably what's going to happen.
2:20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's it's going to be fun either way.
2:20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that they're putting their rookies and taking them in such big spots.
2:20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it shows a lot of confidence, which is a great sign.
2:20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I'm really looking forward to it.
2:20:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to seeing especially how Homadi and Kimura are going to work together because we got a lot of Homadi and should obviously, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's Mama.
2:20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um, I'm really excited to see the two, how the two boys were together if they were together at all.
2:20:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, we'll have to, I guess we'll have to say it, but it'll be interesting.
2:20:40
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I thought that was overall an okay corekin.
2:20:43
[SPEAKER_05]: It was more about storyline advancement than like great matches, but the the brain gate matches really worth watching.
2:20:48
[SPEAKER_05]: But rest of the show is like kind of whatever.
2:20:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, some upcoming stuff in Dragon Gate, let's say I mentioned the sendites had a match already on the 14th.
2:20:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they have this really wacky show coming up, uh, the G. of Mianne, which I guess is, it's specifically booked by this, uh, celebrity announcer, right?
2:21:08
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why it's called that.
2:21:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, uh, so I'll show where you're going to say as it's Saje Mianne who is, um, in, like, soon has a very weird fixation on that man.
2:21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: If I were him, I would take
2:21:25
[SPEAKER_05]: So Dino is going to be teeming up with what looks like Don Fuji and Masaki Bojizuki and drag on that show.
2:21:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Don Shoko Dino, Masaki mojizuki, and Don Fuji and drag against Kai, BB Hulk, and Shoot Skywall.
2:21:43
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, not to jammer.
2:21:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And, uh, oh, yeah, well, it's heo, thank you.
2:21:47
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why that's why it was all the friends I need to leopard.
2:21:50
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2:22:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is good, because you got, you know, obviously, Kai Holkin, you all have history together.
2:22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be interesting to see.
2:22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that at least two of them have done draw it before.
2:22:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
2:22:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the very interesting.
2:22:21
[SPEAKER_05]: The main event, as you mentioned, was a menorese zucchini and your motto, teaming up against Schoen Skywalker and Axe.
2:22:27
[SPEAKER_05]: So I have to say who Axe is.
2:22:29
[SPEAKER_05]: There's also um, Yukio Shioka, teaming up with Mal from DDT to face dragon kid and dragon Dia.
2:22:35
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's pretty cool.
2:22:36
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, just some cool stuff on the show.
2:22:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll say, uh, they're a very different show for dragon gate.
2:22:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So uh, the next normal core again,
2:22:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, is, uh, no, God, what did we say the date was?
2:22:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, it is, uh, October, ace.
2:23:00
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is a show where the, where Ben K is challenging, a kick-out-out for the open-the-treme gate.
2:23:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the next normal core can show.
2:23:10
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
2:23:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, upcoming Dragon Gate stuff that I did a very bad job on.
2:23:16
[SPEAKER_05]: The next, the next and last brochure we're going to talk about in this episode is all Japan.
2:23:21
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, this, it feels, I'm glad we saved it to the end because it feels weird to like talk about anything with them right now with what happened.
2:23:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, the tragedy we talked about the start of the show and especially feels weird to like criticize their matches and stuff like, I don't, it wouldn't shock me if like, you know, I don't know if this is me like thinking about too much but like,
2:23:45
[SPEAKER_05]: The accident happened, apparently happened right in front of everybody, the promotion hasn't been the same, and like it may have honestly just scarred some people there, and just made them, you know, less able to, you know, less, I don't know like it, like people may just honestly be up that upset about this still that's affecting the performance as it wouldn't surprise me.
2:24:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, if you to see something like that happened to someone who was so popular apparently backstage, I mean, it must have had the fact on people.
2:24:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I, yeah, sorry.
2:24:24
[SPEAKER_05]: That's just, yeah, this is a little thing I wanted to throw out there, because it just feels like a very possible to me.
2:24:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So we're just going to talk about four matches here.
2:24:31
[SPEAKER_05]: The next four, the four quarter finals in the in the Al Jepan Odo tournament.
2:24:38
[SPEAKER_05]: The first show was from September 3rd at Shinkiba first ring.
2:24:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm front of a sellout crowd of 339 and the first tournament match was Ryuki Honda defeating
2:24:56
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, I don't know, it wasn't horrible, it was just very slow and kind of boring like almost every day every voice fifth match.
2:25:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I did think it was very weird.
2:25:07
[SPEAKER_05]: The Honda was encouraging the crowd to chant Japanese.
2:25:10
[SPEAKER_05]: He somehow made a match for the death.
2:25:12
[SPEAKER_05]: It's meant about Zito Fabia.
2:25:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, what's going on here?
2:25:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I have an influence to what might be going on.
2:25:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So when David Boismith Jr.
2:25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: was the triple crown champion in December of last year, he was in the tag league with Mia Harra and they lost a match to Hondai and Ayave.
2:25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And in his batch-stage comments, David Boismith Jr.
2:25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: told Hondai to go back to North Korea.
2:25:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow, Jesus.
2:25:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So that might be what I
2:25:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I forgot all about that.
2:25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's it's been so long that I'm kind of maybe kind of extrapolating, but I also don't want people to forget that he said that.
2:25:55
[SPEAKER_05]: So Honda could be just be saying I'm Japanese.
2:25:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's I didn't even think about that.
2:26:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that was crazy.
2:26:03
[SPEAKER_05]: There was finally some decent action around the 15 minute mark, some big lyrics from Honda,
2:26:11
[SPEAKER_05]: and Davey Boy, super flexed him, but Honda immediately created them as soon as they hit the mat and that got the pen.
2:26:16
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, boring most of the way, I've certainly seen way worse, Davey Boy spent during your matches though, so I was like two and three quarters.
2:26:23
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was all right.
2:26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this batch was just my personal hell, because Honda is my favorite of the younger
2:26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: and David Boyzman's Jr.
2:26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: might just be currently my least favorite wrestler on the planet.
2:26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was difficult to get through very nerve-racking at the thought that Hondammat lose, but he pulled it out in the end.
2:26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to see him coming up with more inventive strategies to win.
2:26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's about all I can say about it, honestly.
2:26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just glad it's over.
2:27:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the main event was Ren Ayabe defeating Zion in 2202 with the death roulette.
2:27:08
[SPEAKER_05]: So that means Zion are not that run Ayabe and we'll be home to it's your first semi final.
2:27:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, that is the first Odo tournament semi final match.
2:27:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was very, very, very, very boring, very slow brawling all around the ring side.
2:27:24
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I yabbe, like very slowly, choke to Zia, Zion on the corner, like when the coolest thing in the match was this point to that point, at least was like Zion rolling backward and hitting a weak-looking sphere, it's not good.
2:27:40
[SPEAKER_05]: So the one thing I would say is like the crowd really got into this at the end and I don't really understand why because I didn't think anything that happened was very good, but you know, I mean sometimes the all Japan crowds right now I say we'll say are very forgiving I feel like they are very they love their all Japan wrestlers and they, you know, they got behind Ayabe and they were really into the end of this match.
2:28:01
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, I'm not that that's good.
2:28:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's good that Ayabe is over and it's good the crowd is into it.
2:28:05
[SPEAKER_05]: But I just thought this was pretty bad.
2:28:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was, you know, I wanted to have start if I really thought this.
2:28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's essentially the thing is that with current algebra, I think the fans aren't necessarily like diluted as to the state of the promotion, but I think a lot of people have a lot of goodwill in the wrestlers themselves.
2:28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I, again, I follow, I, obviously, I watch every old pen show.
2:28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I follow a lot of Japanese old pen fans.
2:28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's really the, the kind of spirit that it seems to be.
2:28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And people love their guys, and they really want to see them do well.
2:28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they're, they're kind of trying to do the whole take my energy thing.
2:28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, okay.
2:28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So the problem with this match is that Zion, the lesson part is not very good.
2:28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: especially single man today.
2:28:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's been a little better in tags, but singles and singles he still struggles with.
2:28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has great chemistry with Ashino as a tag team, but he's so.
2:29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And I are there is a guy who is another guy, I feel like this has kind of been my theme on the show is another guy that has really come into his own over the past year and a half, but I don't know that he's ready to lead someone who is at silence level.
2:29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so did end up making for a match that was a little bit of a sloth.
2:29:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it went way too long.
2:29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember like texting a friend when the match was happening.
2:29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, do they know that not every match has to go 20 minutes.
2:29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
2:29:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I, uh, I away winning was kind of a forward on conclusion.
2:29:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's nice.
2:29:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really happy that we get another whole day and I have a match because their Odo tournament final from last year.
2:29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was really good.
2:29:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are two guys that I think will really benefit from growing alongside each other.
2:29:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I thought that the post match was sweet.
2:29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The little show of respect was really nice.
2:29:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Did they, did they have a match in the chamber carnival?
2:30:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
2:30:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I am based currently up to against Honda.
2:30:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:30:07
[SPEAKER_05]: So I remember thinking that was pretty good.
2:30:08
[SPEAKER_05]: That was quite good too.
2:30:10
[SPEAKER_05]: That camping carnival match.
2:30:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So hopefully they, um, hopefully they could have another good one next streak.
2:30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I, I really love them as a taxi, but I think they were great together as a opponent.
2:30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really excited for their semi-final.
2:30:24
[SPEAKER_05]: So the other two quarter fundamentals happened this past Saturday September 6th from the light flu light cube would seem to know me in front of 598 people.
2:30:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to mention to you what you mentioned about the all Japan family liking their guys.
2:30:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I felt like I totally got that vibe too when I went to the shows.
2:30:43
[SPEAKER_05]: because I was sitting behind at the December 31st, 2023 show.
2:30:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I was sitting behind these two women who loved the side-toe brothers.
2:30:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I think more than anyone has ever loved anything.
2:30:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was funny.
2:30:56
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, they totally, you totally get that vibe.
2:30:58
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like, they have their guys and like really, really, really into their guys.
2:31:03
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, yeah, like they're really there for them, like you're saying.
2:31:07
[SPEAKER_05]: So,
2:31:10
[SPEAKER_05]: The September 6th Odo show, this show had again two more, two more titles, two of our tournament matches, I should say.
2:31:18
[SPEAKER_05]: This was Daisuke Sekimoto, defeating Odyssey and 10 minutes and 30 seconds to move him on to the himself on to the semi finals as well.
2:31:27
[SPEAKER_05]: They started with a pose off that was mildly amusing, I guess, but after that it was very, very slow and lumbering, as you would probably expect, like Sekimoto collapsing to his knees selling one needs the gut level of slow and lumbering.
2:31:45
[SPEAKER_05]: The only highlight, really, was Seki Bodo hitting in Nice Backdrop, Suplex on the very large man he was facing.
2:31:51
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know, this batch ended with a very clumsy walking school boy.
2:31:55
[SPEAKER_05]: After Odyssey, like gently collided with the corner, did not look good.
2:32:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Pretty fucking bad.
2:32:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess still the step up from Odyssey's last match, but I think I didn't advance at least, but yeah, one star for this.
2:32:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty year.
2:32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, again, this is kind of the thing, I think Odyssey just has not been there long enough to be in this kind of spot and Sekimoto, again, bless his heart one of the one of my favorites of all time, but he's just not the Sekimoto from 10 years ago anymore.
2:32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it's very clear he recently had a really bad injury scare.
2:32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's very clear that he's just not the wrestler he used to be, which is kind of sad.
2:32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I will take him in the semifinals any day, I think.
2:32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's about it.
2:32:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
2:32:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the other quarter final was Ken to Mia Harra defeating Naya Nomura in 2038 with the shutdown syrup suplex old man.
2:32:55
[SPEAKER_05]: This was the big disappointment for me.
2:32:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, looking forward to this and be like, this is going to be the massive saves the tournament after, you know, haven't been any good matches since the very first two matches the tournament I thought.
2:33:05
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know, I thought this was pretty boring.
2:33:08
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of just wandering around the ring type of brawling.
2:33:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean it did pick up a bit later, but still nowhere near the match.
2:33:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I knew these two could have and it just I felt like they I don't know felt like they kept it in neutral out here at the sticks of snowman or something Which you know that kind of thing does happen when wrestlers are resting in for in tiny tiny buildings or whatever, but yeah, I don't know just A taboo thing else to we had the most boring result possible kento winning.
2:33:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know two and three quarters did not enjoy this that much
2:33:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I enjoyed that a lot more.
2:33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I really like how angry they both got.
2:33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Nomura, I think, has had kind of a mission statement in this little entrepreneur that he's had, but I'm really interested to see if it kind of blocks them into something else, but I think he really, really wants to kind of bring everyone back to working, you know, getting back to work in the minds of all Japan,
2:34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Blood sweat and tears and all that shit um, which was very much the theme of his match with our Yadie in the first round that I also thought was really good Yeah, that was awesome Yeah, probably the best match of this tournament so far.
2:34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not easily easily Yeah, but I don't know I enjoyed it.
2:34:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed the tension between the two.
2:34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I did think there was a little bit too much on the outside Especially because this was a hard hand a hard cam show and they did a lot of rolling on the side of the rain like the other side of the rain
2:34:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So not ideal if you're watching on like on Algepan TV, obviously, um, but I thought the parts that picked up were really good.
2:34:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really, is the hope that no one was sticking around.
2:34:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yes, Kento winning was the very particular results.
2:34:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest with you.
2:34:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's winning the whole tournament.
2:34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I know.
2:34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
2:34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
2:34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
2:34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
2:34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Um,
2:35:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But also I think this is probably for the best because Kenzo winning and then winning the belt is probably as hard a hard reset you could do on all Japan at this point With on-site returning soon nomura hopefully sticking around and you know, all the other guys kind of waiting for their turn I think it's boring, but it's safe and that's what all Japan needs Yeah
2:35:34
[SPEAKER_05]: So there you go, not not enjoying the so no tournament and that tournament that much we'll see how it ends.
2:35:40
[SPEAKER_05]: So the end is exactly a week from now September 15th, which is a holiday in Japan.
2:35:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's see which wacky Japanese holiday this is.
2:35:48
[SPEAKER_05]: This holiday is respect for the age day.
2:35:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, Kilo, no, he, so there you go.
2:35:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it respect your outer day, basically.
2:36:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Which makes sense for Japan.
2:36:01
[SPEAKER_05]: They got a lot of old people.
2:36:03
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, Monday, September 15th, so 11.30 a.m.
2:36:06
[SPEAKER_05]: early start.
2:36:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So an easy show for us to watch live here over here in the US.
2:36:10
[SPEAKER_05]: That's so much for you guys in Europe and the fortune line.
2:36:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's 11.30.
2:36:15
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 11.30 on the 15th, 11.30 a.m.
2:36:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, it wasn't the same thing for the finals last year, so I wasn't right.
2:36:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so tech work and it'll be a nice little 10 30 PM Sunday start time for me, but yeah, that'll be cool.
2:36:33
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so this year we'll have the all age of title match, all age of tag titles, humor, aryagi, and of suki aryagi against Usashi and Seki Yoshiyoka.
2:36:41
[SPEAKER_05]: That could be pretty good.
2:36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I'm expecting this, and I will not accept anything less than good.
2:36:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we have the World Road Tournament semi-finals and finals so the semis as we discussed when I Abbey versus Ryukai Honda and kiddo me a harbours Daisuke Sekimoto.
2:36:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully, in front of Corrican, they're able to finally have some more good matches in this tournament.
2:37:03
[SPEAKER_05]: See, only building, what they've been in good matches is tournament so far, in my opinion.
2:37:07
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see, you know, all the way back in the first round.
2:37:10
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see what they can do here.
2:37:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And then obviously the final will be there, let me, and we don't, we don't have the rest of the card yet, that's the only four matches we have.
2:37:18
[SPEAKER_05]: So that will be two episodes from now on, I'm a Cossack is next episode.
2:37:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to record on Sunday.
2:37:25
[SPEAKER_02]: They okay.
2:37:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So they hinted in the backstage comments they hinted at a world acting title match as well.
2:37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be Odyssey and Zion challenging Kiddekis Zuki and Kengo Mashimo.
2:37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's maybe a little too close to put that match on that show, but maybe
2:37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know.
2:37:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're probably going to pull a match together in memory of not all, so that he could be in that one.
2:37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll see.
2:38:01
[SPEAKER_05]: All righty, so we got through everything a lot of faster than a lot of other person like us down to say, but we didn't have less to talk about, I think.
2:38:09
[SPEAKER_05]: So then I do want some of these talking to somebody shows what I'm doing like fucking age shows in one of them.
2:38:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Like what those G1 and fucking five started the same time was insane.
2:38:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a show.
2:38:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a pot about the Altpan Junior tournament.
2:38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We ended up going for like four hours.
2:38:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
2:38:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a lot of four hour episodes two and one one that went almost five hours.
2:38:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So I know it's kind of crazy podcast, but don't don't mind giving people a shorter one for once.
2:38:45
[SPEAKER_05]: So now there was somebody who said they use this podcast for the root canal recently, so it's like, they're like, what's better than the root canal?
2:38:55
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, oh, thank you.
2:38:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for that glowing review.
2:38:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Anything you want to flood where we get out of here, Mila?
2:39:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, I recently recently in July, but I recently published a really long, thorough detailed article about KZ, who obviously is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
2:39:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I put a lot of my heart and soul into it.
2:39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's 10 years of fandom and 10 years of growing alongside this guy.
2:39:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I was really, really proud of it if you want to read it.
2:39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on 60 minutedraw.com.
2:39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: That's 60 spelled out, I think.
2:39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you can you can find it on you can find 60 minutes drawn Twitter and like go from there.
2:39:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's 60 minutes draw with 60 minutes.
2:39:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Just, yeah, send me the link.
2:39:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just put in the description.
2:39:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's the one thing I want to plug is I'm extremely proud of that.
2:39:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, actually, I found that I found it already.
2:39:54
[SPEAKER_05]: KZ older joy.
2:39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, that's the one.
2:39:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I will link that in the description.
2:39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
2:40:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, yeah, it's a labor of love kind of the work of a lifetime.
2:40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would, I know it's been a while since it's been published, but I think it, you know, has it's always relevant.
2:40:13
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
2:40:13
[SPEAKER_05]: All righty.
2:40:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So folks, first of all, my love.
2:40:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for coming on great podcast with you again for all this time.
2:40:20
[SPEAKER_05]: That was awesome.
2:40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks a lot.
2:40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of fun.
2:40:25
[SPEAKER_05]: And thank you everybody for listening.
2:40:27
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2:40:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And next week, we'll be back on here.
2:40:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll be snazzy coming back on for the actual episode of the schedule for originally before he also graciously popped in when my guest last week came down on a last minute flu.
2:40:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So next week, we're going to have three more nights at the end one.
2:40:52
[SPEAKER_05]: So the September 11th, 13th of 14th.
2:40:55
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll talk about the two New Japan Corquins, the 12th and 13th only.
2:40:59
[SPEAKER_05]: If there's anything interesting to talk about, especially the 12th.
2:41:02
[SPEAKER_05]: There might not be anything to talk about.
2:41:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure honestly, but the 13th show is kind of interesting with the.
2:41:07
[SPEAKER_05]: being booked by the reality TV show people, they should meet you champion people.
2:41:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So that'll be interesting.
2:41:12
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll also do more Yoshi.
2:41:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll have the September 10th Corican from Startum and the September 14th Marigold Dreamstar GP finals.
2:41:20
[SPEAKER_05]: So we haven't done any Marigold in a while.
2:41:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll talk about that as well.
2:41:24
[SPEAKER_05]: So that'll be on next week's on Macase.
2:41:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Until then, everybody.
2:41:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to thank you again for listening and we'll see you next time.