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A Psychological Thriller From The Legendary Lisa Gardner You'll Be Sorry · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say it's a page out of
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  Speaker 1: the old radio days, and can I really do that?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Lisa, how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Great? How are you er well?
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  Speaker 1: I am fired of to share a conversation with you
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  Speaker 1: because we got to start with the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: every one of our first grade teachers said, don't judge
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  Speaker 1: a book by its cover. How can I not sit
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  Speaker 1: here and be so charged up with this book cover?
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  Speaker 1: Because I mean, I think anybody who travels the American
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  Speaker 1: highways the back roads, They're gonna see this barn or
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  Speaker 1: this building and say I've been there. I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: it is so everything that I've ever seen, And then
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  Speaker 1: when you jump into the story, you still want to
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  Speaker 1: say it, I've been there.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Yes, absolutely, you'll be sorry. It takes
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  Speaker 2: place in a remote mountain town in New Hampshire, and yes,
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  Speaker 2: we have the resident hunted house, so to speak, was
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  Speaker 2: the grand jewel of the mountains until a family of
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  Speaker 2: six disappeared thirty years ago, and the house has just
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  Speaker 2: fallen into a total state of disrepair, and it has
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  Speaker 2: the old historic barn and a lot of old historic mysteries.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right, it is a very small town Americana.
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  Speaker 2: And you will be sorry.
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  Speaker 1: When you build a story like this, because I've always
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  Speaker 1: believed you're even through through Native American black magic. As
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  Speaker 1: they always say, you cannot put a curse on anybody
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  Speaker 1: unless you have endured it yourself to understand it. So therefore,
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  Speaker 1: when you're creating a psychological thriller like this one, and
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's like, what have you been through
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  Speaker 1: through your multiple layers of light that you were able
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  Speaker 1: to bring this forward?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think the core of You'll be sorry
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  Speaker 2: is that so many things that we recognize as universal truths. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it takes place in a small town that's
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  Speaker 2: so quaint and picturesque, and tourists flocked to it and
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  Speaker 2: as the white people New England church is that nothing
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  Speaker 2: bad here is supposed to ever happen except it did
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  Speaker 2: thirty years ago. I mean, there's this infamous crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like the family sat down to dinner, there's
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  Speaker 2: food on the table and it's partially started jigsaw puzzle
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  Speaker 2: and that's it. The family's gone. All that's left is
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  Speaker 2: bloody footprint. It's another we think in small towns we
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  Speaker 2: all know each other, everyone knows their neighbors. We're trusting,
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  Speaker 2: we don't lock the doors. But the town of Sherford,
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire will tell you somebody, one of our neighbors
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  Speaker 2: has to know what happened thirty years ago. So it's
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  Speaker 2: going back to these universal truths that I think makes
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  Speaker 2: suspense that much more chilling because you're reading it to
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  Speaker 2: your point. It's like, oh, I recognize that building, Oh
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  Speaker 2: I recognize those neighbors. Yeah. I could live in this.
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  Speaker 1: Town, yeah and see that. The thing about it is
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  Speaker 1: that is that I live in a pretty large city
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  Speaker 1: as it is, But I always, in reading the book
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  Speaker 1: and experiencing the book, I sure do look at my
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  Speaker 1: neighbors much more differently inside this town, your own neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought that up, because I do
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  Speaker 1: look at Fred differently, I look at Steve differently because
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  Speaker 1: your book is opening up my eyes to go you
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  Speaker 1: don't know everything about these people.
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  Speaker 2: See you now. I feel like my work here is done.
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  Speaker 2: I've made you a Parentoly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for coming by. We'll see you later.
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  Speaker 2: No, but this even takes it one step further because
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  Speaker 2: here's another sistance trope. We love going back to the Gothics. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the exciting incident of this book. Thirty years later, what
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  Speaker 2: has changed to a young couple? And we know they're beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: they're glamorous. I mean the gossips are like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: they're loaded. They had this huge life in Boston, but
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  Speaker 2: they gave it up to move here and by a
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  Speaker 2: crime scene. I mean, what kind of people do that?
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  Speaker 2: But when we meet the couple, you know two things
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  Speaker 2: at once. They seem to be madly, madly madly in
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  Speaker 2: love slash lust with each other, and they're also really
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  Speaker 2: nervous and afraid. They've reached that point in the relationship
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  Speaker 2: where something bad has happened and they're starting to understand
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  Speaker 2: all the things they don't know about one another, all
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  Speaker 2: the questions they never asked, because you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning it's just so perfect you don't think to ask
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  Speaker 2: the questions. And now there's this yawning chasm between them,
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  Speaker 2: something so terrible that it made moving to the middle
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere and buying a crime theme seem like a
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  Speaker 2: good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Lisa Gardner coming
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  Speaker 1: up next. The name of this chilling thriller You'll Be Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: from author Lisa Gardner. I would love to see other
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  Speaker 1: couples do the same exact thing with this, because it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those of he said, she said, what would
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  Speaker 1: you do? How did you do it? Kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just a one person opportunity here that
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  Speaker 1: several people from the same family, but we're all going
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  Speaker 1: to get our own interpretation.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's a lot of what the book's about.
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  Speaker 2: It's memory. It's how all of us can view the
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  Speaker 2: same things that have a very different impression. It's how
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  Speaker 2: we record things differently. I am fascinated by the perspectives
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  Speaker 2: of memory, and even within our own family, Like if
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  Speaker 2: you ask that Christmas with Uncle Bob and you get
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  Speaker 2: like twelve different answers. It also has to do with
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  Speaker 2: legacy memory, generational trauma epigenetics. Because you talk about these
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  Speaker 2: old New England communities that have existed for hundreds of years,
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  Speaker 2: the secrets of the past also still are embedded in
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  Speaker 2: the DNA of the community, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, right, Just listening to your voice, it just tells
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  Speaker 1: me that it just helps me understand the way the
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  Speaker 1: story is laid out as it is. And then I've
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  Speaker 1: got to ask this question about those that have always
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  Speaker 1: been so faithful in following you. What was it like
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  Speaker 1: for you to kind of shift gears a bit, because
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  Speaker 1: I love it when people do that. It's like you think,
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  Speaker 1: you know me, Oh you wait till this next book,
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  Speaker 1: Wait until you see You'll be sorry because it's going
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  Speaker 1: to give you a different depth and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: make me even more attractive to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes see. I love my serious characters, and I love
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  Speaker 2: that my readers are so passionate about you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah they are.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the trick when you have a really
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  Speaker 2: long running career and I've been at this thirty five years,
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  Speaker 2: is you have to keep yourself excited. That's what a
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  Speaker 2: reader responds to, and you need those fresh, original stories
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  Speaker 2: and you'll be sorry taking place in the small town
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  Speaker 2: that it does, it's already so richly populated with everything
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  Speaker 2: from the quirky townsfolks to this mysterious couple to their
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  Speaker 2: erstwhile young police chief trying to follow in our families
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  Speaker 2: for father's footsteps. That there was so much fodder there
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  Speaker 2: that it was just an in pudibly rich and compelling
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  Speaker 2: story to write in and of itself.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting. I grew up with the
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  Speaker 1: state of Montana, which is basically the home of all
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  Speaker 1: small towns, and so a book like this only served
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  Speaker 1: as a reminder of do not walk when the sun
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  Speaker 1: goes down, do not walk through this city. You do
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  Speaker 1: not know what's going on behind these closed windows that
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  Speaker 1: are lit up. And you give me that, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what I love about it, is that you
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  Speaker 1: give me a chill without having to sit here and
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  Speaker 1: wade through a bingch watch. You give it to me
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  Speaker 1: right now in my hands.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel my very satisfying, because that's my job.
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  Speaker 2: I want to entertain. It's August, that's summer. The real
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  Speaker 2: world is weighty enough. I want readers to sit down,
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  Speaker 2: open this book and just feel transported and be flying
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  Speaker 2: through these pages of sure for New Hampshire. What happened
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  Speaker 2: to the Dixons thirty years ago? And why does this
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  Speaker 2: bell know so much about this property? So I want
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  Speaker 2: you to think about for a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of days?
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: This has been on me now for like two or
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  Speaker 1: three weeks. You can't say a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not following the rules. Then what do you say?
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  Speaker 2: I read both books in an evening, So ive been
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  Speaker 2: gracious giving you a ciple baby, Oh my god?
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about everything
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing? Because you are everything that Mark Twain says,
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  Speaker 1: So you put it in your own language and accent,
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  Speaker 1: and that just makes it more genuine.
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  Speaker 2: So you can find me at Lisa Gardner dot com.
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  Speaker 2: We can kill off the person of your choice design
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  Speaker 2: on my next novel, and across social media at Lisa
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  Speaker 2: Gardner bks for books.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, ten minutes with you is never going to be enough.
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  Speaker 1: One of these days we're gonna have a face to
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  Speaker 1: face Lisa and we're just gonna have to sit there
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  Speaker 1: and we can we can dine on small town food
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  Speaker 1: and just love every bit of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that would be great.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it is excellent. Thank you so much. Er