Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Trump weighed firing Pirro for Reflecting Pool reversal
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Jeanine Pierro's future appears to be hanging in the balance
- 0:03Speaker 1: over the DCUs attorney's decision to drop charges against a
- 0:07Speaker 1: former olympian who was accused of vandalism among other people
- 0:12Speaker 1: at the reflecting pool. Now, sources say it is highly
- 0:15Speaker 1: likely that she'll be fired. Another administration official described the
- 0:19Speaker 1: President as blindsided by Pierro's reversal, which instead blamed a
- 0:24Speaker 1: botched renovation by the contractor and criticized the Interior Department.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Interior Secretary Doug Bergham pushed back hard on that, and
- 0:33Speaker 1: were told that Bergham and Piro met with Trump at
- 0:36Speaker 1: the White House this evening. When pressed by reporters about
- 0:40Speaker 1: her future at a signing earlier today, the President didn't
- 0:43Speaker 1: hold back.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Janeed piroh made a mistake.
- 0:46Speaker 3: It was vandalism.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Frankly, I think she choked because the judge was really vicious.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Instead of going after the people that did it, the
- 0:56Speaker 2: judge went after her and went after her department, and
- 1:00Speaker 2: I guess she choked. I don't know what the hell happened.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I was disappointed with Janny Pierro, really disappointed with Janny Pierro.
- 1:08Speaker 2: She she folded like an umbrella.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Once again, we are through the looking glass and being
- 1:15Speaker 3: asked to pretend that what we know is fake is real.
- 1:18Speaker 3: And Janine perhaps had a moment of clarity of like,
- 1:22Speaker 3: we don't have a case against this man, so we
- 1:24Speaker 3: cannot charge him. And now she's in trouble for living
- 1:28Speaker 3: in reality in Trump world. If she had lived the lie,
- 1:32Speaker 3: then she would be fine. But because she said no,
- 1:34Speaker 3: this is reality, this should not. I mean, it's the
- 1:36Speaker 3: same thing with the election, the Big lie. It's the
- 1:39Speaker 3: same thing with January sixth. Over and over, we are
- 1:41Speaker 3: asked to believe that non reality is reality. He looks
- 1:45Speaker 3: us right in the eyes. This is what dictators do
- 1:46Speaker 3: that He looks us right in the eyes and says
- 1:48Speaker 3: X is reality, and we know it's not.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Anyone want to dispute that, well, not really.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I mean the difference though, between the dictatorship that you're
- 1:59Speaker 4: describing and this is courts of law where evidence rules,
- 2:03Speaker 4: and if you can't produce sufficient evidence, you get upbraided
- 2:05Speaker 4: by a judge and you lose the case. It wasn't
- 2:07Speaker 4: just this guy, it was three others. Those cases were
- 2:10Speaker 4: dropped today and the statement from the District of Columbia
- 2:12Speaker 4: Attorney's office said, it's a botched installation, just giving up
- 2:16Speaker 4: the entire narrative that we were told for weeks was
- 2:18Speaker 4: not true. And it's not like this is as egregious
- 2:22Speaker 4: as those prosecutions where this isn't James call me, this
- 2:24Speaker 4: isn't Letitia James to the average voter, those as egregious
- 2:28Speaker 4: as those prosecutions were, those people were in the game,
- 2:31Speaker 4: These were civilians, They were just passers by. This could
- 2:34Speaker 4: happen to anybody. It's the sort of thing that could
- 2:37Speaker 4: have the possibility to really get more attention than it
- 2:40Speaker 4: deserves because a lot of people are going to say, listen,
- 2:42Speaker 4: that could happen to me.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:44Speaker 1: And I think also it's worth noting that this is
- 2:48Speaker 1: not the first time that Janine Piro has been pressured
- 2:51Speaker 1: by Trump to do something and then the thing basically
- 2:55Speaker 1: falls apart when there's no evidence. Remember when she was
- 2:58Speaker 1: trying to criminally prosecute the FED Chair Jerome Powell over
- 3:03Speaker 1: a renovation of the FED the FED building. Remember when
- 3:09Speaker 1: the sandwich thrower was slapped with a felony and that
- 3:13Speaker 1: case fell apart in a grand jury. That's just one
- 3:18Speaker 1: of many other cases that she's brought since in the
- 3:21Speaker 1: limited time she's been in this job to try to
- 3:24Speaker 1: pursue Trump's ends. And to Terrey's point, I mean, this
- 3:28Speaker 1: is like a fictional thing that Trump has basically made up,
- 3:33Speaker 1: and he is convinced that it's real, and he wants
- 3:35Speaker 1: everybody around him to as well. And it looks like
- 3:38Speaker 1: Doug Bergham is indulging him.
- 3:40Speaker 4: I for one, was really hopeful we would never have
- 3:42Speaker 4: to talk about the reflecting pool. Ever again, here.
- 3:46Speaker 1: We are you.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Janine Piro is doing her job.
- 3:52Speaker 5: You know, She's going where the evidence leads and we'll
- 3:55Speaker 5: see what happens.
- 3:55Speaker 6: Trump tends to be.
- 3:56Speaker 4: More loyal to his people. He's known a long time,
- 3:59Speaker 4: so I'm curious to see how this plays out.
- 4:01Speaker 6: But Jeanine Piro is doing her.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Job over this. What does that mean?
- 4:06Speaker 5: I think it speaks to a truth in the Trump
- 4:08Speaker 5: administration and the people that surround him, which is he
- 4:12Speaker 5: loves to hire incompetent loyalists, but he also loves to
- 4:16Speaker 5: have a scapegoat and particularly the women around him. You know,
- 4:19Speaker 5: this is sort of a theme that I've been tracking,
- 4:22Speaker 5: whether it was Gnome or Gabbered or you know, just
- 4:27Speaker 5: she loves of course, Yeah, that's that's right, Blondie. But
- 4:31Speaker 5: I think there's this this trend with Trump where he
- 4:35Speaker 5: creates his own problems, but he also creates his own teams,
- 4:38Speaker 5: and when people fail to fall in line or fail
- 4:40Speaker 5: to execute on almost an impossible task like defending this,
- 4:45Speaker 5: he's no, he's unafraid to throw them aside.
- 4:47Speaker 6: I think it's a little I agree with all that.
- 4:50Speaker 6: I guess I would say to Noah's point that the
- 4:53Speaker 6: real problem here is that Jeanine Pierrot had to appeal
- 4:57Speaker 6: to a court of law. She had to prevent present facts,
- 5:01Speaker 6: and of course the court recognized that this was a lie,
- 5:05Speaker 6: and so you know, she had this impossible task which
- 5:08Speaker 6: was to acknowledge reality or lie to a court, which
- 5:12Speaker 6: is just technically illegal even for the Justice Department. And
- 5:16Speaker 6: so I think the truth of this whole situation is,
- 5:18Speaker 6: you know, of course we're asked to live in unreality.
- 5:21Speaker 6: But the thing that's more dangerous here is that the
- 5:23Speaker 6: president is willing to fire his own people in order
- 5:30Speaker 6: to have wilful prosecutions that are just totally made up
- 5:34Speaker 6: against innocent basically bystanders, civilians. And that is a weaponized
- 5:39Speaker 6: DOJ which is exactly what he claims to have been
- 5:42Speaker 6: worried about.
- 5:44Speaker 1: This is President Trump talking about this contract that is
- 5:47Speaker 1: really at the heart of this. It's a no bid
- 5:50Speaker 1: contract that went out to some contractor that he apparently
- 5:55Speaker 1: had a previous relationship with. And this is what he
- 5:57Speaker 1: said back in April versus what he said today.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying I was one hundred percent thrilled
- 6:04Speaker 2: with the contractor, but the contractor was rushing. We wanted
- 6:09Speaker 2: to get it open for July fourth, and we got
- 6:12Speaker 2: it done by the way. I didn't know the contractor
- 6:14Speaker 2: would have said the contract I didn't know the contractor.
- 6:17Speaker 2: But when it was completed, it was perfect. I said,
- 6:22Speaker 2: you know, Doug, I have a guy who is unbelievable
- 6:25Speaker 2: at doing swimming pools. I mean to send my contractor
- 6:28Speaker 2: over and take a look.
- 6:29Speaker 3: He looked at it and he called me up.
- 6:31Speaker 2: He said, so we can do something on it.
- 6:33Speaker 1: We have a color.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It's called American flag blue.
- 6:35Speaker 1: I said, that's the color.
- 6:36Speaker 5: I like it.
- 6:37Speaker 2: He talked me into it very easily.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I mean, the lies and it's just a lot of lies.
- 6:46Speaker 1: It is from one month to another.
- 6:48Speaker 3: But he's also he's supposed to be a builder, whatever
- 6:51Speaker 3: we think of him politically, he should be able to
- 6:54Speaker 3: build things right. He should be able to work with
- 6:56Speaker 3: contractors to get what he wants right. But clearly but again,
- 7:00Speaker 3: he's unable to do that. He's actually falling back on
- 7:02Speaker 3: the thing that America first became knowing him all about
- 7:07Speaker 3: firing people, right, That's what we're getting back to here.
- 7:10Speaker 1: But also, I mean, this contract has been rife with
- 7:14Speaker 1: problems from the beginning. As he pointed out, he rushed
- 7:17Speaker 1: this job. He gave the guy a no big contract
- 7:21Speaker 1: for six point nine million dollars, which is several times
- 7:24Speaker 1: over more than he said the whole project would cost
- 7:27Speaker 1: when he started it off. They used this rarely used
- 7:31Speaker 1: exemption that is supposed to be used to prevent serious injury,
- 7:35Speaker 1: financial or other to the government in order to get
- 7:38Speaker 1: this contract through. So I guess it shouldn't be a
- 7:41Speaker 1: surprise to any of us that the President cutting corners
- 7:45Speaker 1: on this project and elsewhere. By the way, let's not
- 7:48Speaker 1: forget there's a whole hole where the East Wing used
- 7:51Speaker 1: to be. All kinds of things that the White House
- 7:54Speaker 1: have been torn up, and god knows what those arrangements
- 7:56Speaker 1: have been. But this is a very vivid example of
- 7:59Speaker 1: what it looks like when there's no oversight, which there
- 8:01Speaker 1: is supposed to be for things like this.
- 8:03Speaker 4: I mean, to your point, if there was a little
- 8:06Speaker 4: less tolerance on the part of Republican lawmakers for this
- 8:09Speaker 4: sort of thing, you probably see less of it, because
- 8:12Speaker 4: there'd be a check and a mechanism to enforce some
- 8:15Speaker 4: sort of propriety on the president. They don't really do
- 8:16Speaker 4: The Republicans don't really do him a lot of favors
- 8:18Speaker 4: by indulging in these fantasies here. But the misuse of
- 8:21Speaker 4: taxpayer dollars, as bad as that is, doesn't rise to
- 8:24Speaker 4: the level of the abuse that we've just seen, charging
- 8:26Speaker 4: of private citizens with crimes that cannot be proven of
- 8:30Speaker 4: much less probably an indictment sought before a grand jury.
- 8:33Speaker 4: These indictments were simply handed down. So I think we
- 8:36Speaker 4: were talking about apples and oranges here, and those oranges
- 8:38Speaker 4: are really, really bad.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with it. I would agree with
- 8:41Speaker 1: that because I mean, I think that the damage that
- 8:44Speaker 1: is being done to regular individuals is the story here,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and also Trump's willingness to weaponize the federal government to
- 8:54Speaker 1: pursue his imaginary aims is what the story is about.
- 8:58Speaker 1: That's scary.
- 9:00Speaker 5: We did watch in real time as this renovation happened.
- 9:03Speaker 5: I mean, people were documenting it on their runs on TikTok,
- 9:08Speaker 5: and it came as no surprise to us when the
- 9:10Speaker 5: paints started peeling up and the algae blooming. But you know,
- 9:14Speaker 5: I want to uplift something that I was seeing as
- 9:16Speaker 5: a narrative online, which was people were saying, you know,
- 9:20Speaker 5: this is my paint chip. Maybe I'll sell it for
- 9:22Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty dollars, and then commenters were joking
- 9:24Speaker 5: I already paid fourteen million dollars for those peeling paint chips.
- 9:28Speaker 6: Also, can I just say it's so weird how much
- 9:31Speaker 6: time he spends on this stuff. Like, you know, I
- 9:34Speaker 6: will say, Americans are worried about gas prices and other things,
- 9:38Speaker 6: and the President spends so much time on this reflecting
- 9:42Speaker 6: pool and then defending the reflecting pool and then attacking
- 9:45Speaker 6: is us.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Hurting meetings or the White House about the reflecting It's.
- 9:50Speaker 6: Like it's like that in the Iran War kind of even.
- 9:53Speaker 1: To him, Well, I mean, we don't have time to
- 9:55Speaker 1: play it, but you know, Maggie Haberman at The New
- 9:57Speaker 1: York Times who knows Trump very well. She says she
- 10:00Speaker 1: believes it's about seventy percent of his mind share right
- 10:03Speaker 1: now that is devoted to these projects. And it's not
- 10:06Speaker 1: a joke, and she's being very serious. And when you
- 10:09Speaker 1: look at when you look at his comments, Look, you
- 10:12Speaker 1: can just look at his public comments. How much does
- 10:14Speaker 1: he talk about this stuff. It's almost every single.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Many of them have been quite successful in cleaning.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Up it does sound. It literally doesn't matter.
- 10:22Speaker 6: It's a priority and tasteless.
- 10:25Speaker 3: The gold and the Oval office outside of the old Again,
- 10:28Speaker 3: it's not a left right thing. It's just disgusting.
- 10:30Speaker 1: It's useless,