Latest / The World of Phil Hendrie / Episode #3981 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive February 2005
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. It's Phil Henry with another Radio Archive Hour
- 0:03Speaker 1: for this beautiful weekend that we have upon. I hope
- 0:06Speaker 1: it's beautiful where you are, man. It's been really beautiful
- 0:08Speaker 1: here in California. We have a Radio Archive Hour that
- 0:11Speaker 1: comes to us from the year of 2005, February, and
- 0:15Speaker 1: our good friend Dave Oliver, the aspiring LAPD officer who,
- 0:19Speaker 1: as it is right now, he's doing a few menial
- 0:22Speaker 1: jobs while he takes law enforcement, and he continually gets
- 0:24Speaker 1: the whole thing wrong. He is on the show here
- 0:27Speaker 1: to discuss how American Idol... of all places, American Idol
- 0:30Speaker 1: encourages domestic violence. His reasons? Men see Simon Cow, as
- 0:35Speaker 1: he calls him, and Paul Abdul telling women who audition
- 0:40Speaker 1: for the show that their butts are too large or
- 0:42Speaker 1: their clothes were wrong. So the men pick up on
- 0:44Speaker 1: this and they start talking straight to the women. And
- 0:47Speaker 1: the women talk back and, I don't know, this is Dave.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Let's listen. David Oliver. Dave is a student at LA
- 0:52Speaker 1: Canyon College. He is studying law enforcement. He is also
- 0:55Speaker 1: studying criminal justice. He's looking to eventually enter the Los
- 1:00Speaker 1: Angeles Police Academy, correct, Dave?
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's correct. And I'm very much looking forward
- 1:06Speaker 2: to it.
- 1:07Speaker 1: We were talking, and it was very interesting, about the
- 1:09Speaker 1: television show American Idol and the contestants that go on
- 1:13Speaker 1: that show. And you had an unusual point of view
- 1:16Speaker 1: concerning the message that it sends to men. Go ahead.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Tell the audience what that was.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I firmly believe that it sends a
- 1:25Speaker 2: mixed message to men, and I think it's a destructive message.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. The reason why I say that, Mr. Henry,
- 1:32Speaker 2: is I'm studying to be LAPD. Eventually, I want to
- 1:36Speaker 2: become a patrolman and work for the Los Angeles Police Department, which,
- 1:42Speaker 2: in my opinion, is the best police department probably in
- 1:45Speaker 2: like the whole world, you know. And in order to
- 1:48Speaker 2: do that, you have to know psychology. And plus, I'm
- 1:53Speaker 2: going to have to go out on domestic violence calls.
- 1:55Speaker 2: I'm going to have to go out on calls where,
- 1:57Speaker 2: you know, the perpetrator might be a man who has
- 2:00Speaker 2: been inflicting some kind of violence on a woman. And
- 2:03Speaker 2: so I need to understand why that is.
- 2:05Speaker 1: But give me the relationship with American Idol.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Well, primarily American Idol, if you've seen this television show,
- 2:11Speaker 2: and I don't know how many of your listeners are
- 2:14Speaker 2: familiar with it, at all with it, but American Idol
- 2:17Speaker 2: is a TV show where they bring on contestants, a
- 2:22Speaker 2: lot of them, most of them I'd say are women,
- 2:24Speaker 2: most of them probably women, and the women get up
- 2:28Speaker 2: and they'll sing a song or they'll be dressed, you know,
- 2:33Speaker 2: the best way they know how, and they'll sing a
- 2:35Speaker 2: song and, like, do a show, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay, Mr.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Henry?
- 2:40Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm familiar with the show.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Okay. So, all right. So then they do that. Then
- 2:45Speaker 2: they stand in front of three judges, one of whom
- 2:48Speaker 2: is named Randy Jackson, the other of whom is named
- 2:52Speaker 2: Simon Cowell, and the other of whom is named Paul Abdul. And, like,
- 2:57Speaker 2: for the next three minutes, they cut him up almost
- 3:00Speaker 2: as if they cut him with a knife. They talk
- 3:03Speaker 2: about how big their butts are. They talk about how
- 3:06Speaker 2: flat-chested they are. They talk about how their clothes are
- 3:08Speaker 2: no good.
- 3:09Speaker 1: They talk about how flat-chested they are?
- 3:11Speaker 2: Well, they get into a personal appearance, you know, and
- 3:14Speaker 2: they'll even say, well, you know, your voice is not
- 3:16Speaker 2: that good. In other words, they lead men to believe
- 3:22Speaker 2: that you can speak to a woman like this. And
- 3:25Speaker 2: the women themselves, I think also, Mr. Henry, are culpable
- 3:29Speaker 2: because they stand there and they smile as they're being
- 3:33Speaker 2: told these very destructive personal things, and they nod their
- 3:37Speaker 2: heads up and down like, yeah, okay, you know, I
- 3:41Speaker 2: get it, I understand.
- 3:42Speaker 1: And so if I'm anticipating what you're going to say, David,
- 3:46Speaker 1: I don't mean to preempt you, but men take from
- 3:48Speaker 1: that the message that it's all right to speak to
- 3:51Speaker 1: a woman that way.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yes, sir, naturally they would. And so what happens is
- 3:56Speaker 2: a woman will watch, or a man will watch this
- 3:58Speaker 2: on TV, And they'll watch their woman watching it on TV. Like,
- 4:02Speaker 2: my girlfriend watches this show on TV. And I have,
- 4:07Speaker 2: you know, I told her, I said, okay, you know,
- 4:10Speaker 2: I think that you've probably, you know, gotten too much
- 4:12Speaker 2: weight on. You know, I told her, I said, you know,
- 4:14Speaker 2: to me, it looks to me, and this is just
- 4:16Speaker 2: my own personal opinion, but it looks to me like
- 4:18Speaker 2: your hips are too big, your butt area is probably
- 4:21Speaker 2: too wide, you know. She gets upset with me, okay.
- 4:25Speaker 2: She takes the baby. She leaves, goes over to her
- 4:29Speaker 2: friend's apartment, and right now we're living with her mother,
- 4:33Speaker 2: so I'm there at her mother's apartment. She's not even there,
- 4:35Speaker 2: and I'm living in the back bedroom at her mother's apartment.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Why did this happen? How could this happen? I'll tell
- 4:42Speaker 2: you why. Because the message it sends to me from
- 4:45Speaker 2: American Idol is, I'm allowed to speak that way to
- 4:48Speaker 2: a woman, but when I do, they won't allow it,
- 4:52Speaker 2: you know?
- 4:53Speaker 1: Well, who do you blame, man? Do you blame the
- 4:55Speaker 1: TV show? Do you blame the women?
- 4:57Speaker 2: Well, I think I equally blame both the TV show
- 4:59Speaker 2: and the women, mostly the women. I mean, because the
- 5:03Speaker 2: women are the biggest fans of this TV show, American Idol.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And yet when you speak to them exactly the same
- 5:08Speaker 2: way that the judge does on TV, they get upset. Now,
- 5:12Speaker 2: my current situation is this. My woman left, and I went.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I had to go get her, you know.
- 5:17Speaker 1: What do you mean you had to go get her?
- 5:20Speaker 2: Well, she left. She moved out and moved in with
- 5:22Speaker 2: her friends.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And when you say you went and got her?
- 5:24Speaker 2: Well, I went over and got her. I said, you're
- 5:26Speaker 2: not leaving. You know, that's not fair. That's not right.
- 5:29Speaker 2: So I grabbed her and I grabbed all of her belongings.
- 5:31Speaker 2: I brought her back, you know. And I told her,
- 5:34Speaker 2: I said, the whole way that this started is because
- 5:38Speaker 2: what's this about? You know, and she goes, you can't
- 5:39Speaker 2: speak to me like that. I said, no, I can't
- 5:41Speaker 2: speak to you like that. But big American Idol can
- 5:45Speaker 2: speak to you like that. And she looked at me
- 5:48Speaker 2: and she went, well, you know, you got a point, okay?
- 5:51Speaker 2: If you explain it, I think, that way, a lot
- 5:52Speaker 2: of women will get it, but then a lot of
- 5:54Speaker 2: women won't.
- 5:56Speaker 1: It's an interesting point of view that American Idol talks
- 5:59Speaker 1: down to women, and yet when men try that, they're
- 6:02Speaker 1: not allowed to.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yes, sir. And also, very important to understand, the mixed
- 6:07Speaker 2: message it sends to men is very destructive because, you know,
- 6:12Speaker 2: then you feel like you want to just.
- 6:16Speaker 2: I don't even want to say, you know, because I'm
- 6:17Speaker 2: studying to be an APD, but I understand how some
- 6:20Speaker 2: domestic violence can result from that.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Well, you're not recommending that.
- 6:23Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not recommending it at all. But my
- 6:25Speaker 2: woman left when I went over to get her, and
- 6:28Speaker 2: I said, you can't leave me because that's a totally
- 6:33Speaker 2: wrong way for you to leave me on account of that.
- 6:37Speaker 1: All right, let me give our phone number out here, David.
- 6:39Speaker 1: It's 1-800-449-8686. David Oliver is a student of criminal justice,
- 6:43Speaker 1: also studying sociology. Yes, sir.
- 6:45Speaker 2: It's required. It's also part of my minor for my
- 6:50Speaker 2: law enforcement criminal justice degree.
- 6:52Speaker 1: And the idea that American Idol will get women up there,
- 6:56Speaker 1: if you've ever seen the show, the women sing and
- 6:57Speaker 1: then they are told that this is wrong and that's
- 7:00Speaker 1: wrong and this is wrong and that's wrong, and they
- 7:02Speaker 1: don't get angry.
- 7:03Speaker 2: No, see, that's the whole thing. They don't get angry. Okay?
- 7:07Speaker 2: This is a destructive message being sent, I think, to
- 7:10Speaker 2: men because it tells them wrongly. It gives them false
- 7:15Speaker 2: permission to speak to women like that. And then when
- 7:20Speaker 2: we do, the women tell us that we're not allowed to.
- 7:25Speaker 2: And then they try to leave. All right. Our number
- 7:26Speaker 2: is 1-800-449-8686. 1-800-449-8686.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I want to get back to this thing about where
- 7:28Speaker 1: you said you went and got her.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I did. I went and got her because
- 7:38Speaker 2: I told her, you know, and her name's Christina. Okay.
- 7:44Speaker 2: I said, you know, you put on a lot of weight.
- 7:47Speaker 2: You kind of, you know, I didn't say ugly, but
- 7:50Speaker 2: I said, you know, you're getting uglier, or not getting uglier, but,
- 7:52Speaker 2: you know, your face is getting, there's a lot of
- 7:54Speaker 2: stuff that I'd like to see cleaned up about you,
- 7:56Speaker 2: you know? Now, I did it the same way that
- 8:00Speaker 2: that dude on American Idol does it, Simon Cowell.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Simon Cowell?
- 8:07Speaker 2: Simon Cowell, yeah.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Okay. What did you say?
- 8:10Speaker 2: I said to her, I said, Christina, honey, you and I,
- 8:14Speaker 2: for us to be married, as we wish in June,
- 8:19Speaker 2: and I do want to marry you in June, when
- 8:21Speaker 2: the summer months approach and the harvest is in, you know,
- 8:25Speaker 2: but you have to do some things, first of all.
- 8:30Speaker 2: And I remember what Simon Cowell had said to one
- 8:32Speaker 2: gal that they had interviewed. He said... First of all,
- 8:37Speaker 2: your weight's got to come off. Second of all, the
- 8:39Speaker 2: dress is all wrong. Third, you know, your hair, your
- 8:42Speaker 2: presentation is just a mess. And I took my inspiration
- 8:46Speaker 2: from Simon Cowell. Okay.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but can I tell you something, man? That's a
- 8:51Speaker 1: television show intended for the entertainment of the audience.
- 8:54Speaker 2: All right. Well, here again, we've got a problem. Maybe
- 8:58Speaker 2: it's intended for the entertainment of the audience, but the
- 9:01Speaker 2: women in the audience are not complaining about it. So therefore,
- 9:05Speaker 2: you have to assume that the women agree with Simon
- 9:09Speaker 2: Cowell and how Simon Cowell talked to them.
- 9:13Speaker 1: All right, so you, after seeing an American Idol where
- 9:16Speaker 1: this guy, Mr. Cowell, had pretty well cut this woman
- 9:19Speaker 1: down in terms of her appearance.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Then you approached your girlfriend. The two of you have
- 9:26Speaker 1: a baby together?
- 9:26Speaker 2: Oh, yes, we do. We have our little Jessica. She's
- 9:29Speaker 2: eight months old.
- 9:30Speaker 1: And you're not yet married.
- 9:31Speaker 2: No, we're going to do that. Pretty soon. Like we've
- 9:35Speaker 2: planned this summer.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But all right. But in anticipation of your wedding, you've
- 9:40Speaker 1: told her that she needs some appearance makeover.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I have. But I only did it after
- 9:45Speaker 2: I seen Simon Cowell and Paul Abdul on the American Idol. Like,
- 9:51Speaker 2: tell this one woman, yeah, your butt, everything's bad. You know,
- 9:55Speaker 2: your voice is bad. Your butt's too big. Everything. How
- 9:59Speaker 2: come I'm not allowed to, but they get to? I'll
- 10:03Speaker 2: tell you why. Because it's wrong, and that will cause
- 10:08Speaker 2: domestic violence, in my opinion.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned you went and got your girlfriend left,
- 10:12Speaker 1: and you went and, quote, got her. Did you force
- 10:15Speaker 1: her back?
- 10:16Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I'm not, I didn't be, I wasn't
- 10:19Speaker 2: violent with her.
- 10:20Speaker 1: No, but I mean, you went and got her. Did
- 10:21Speaker 1: you force her to come home with you?
- 10:23Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, because I told her,
- 10:25Speaker 2: but she thought she wanted me to, see? She wanted
- 10:28Speaker 2: me to force her to come home because she knew
- 10:30Speaker 2: that what I.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Said was correct. All right, 1-800-449-8686. Dave Oliva, studying to
- 10:40Speaker 1: be a Los Angeles police officer. He's going to, you're
- 10:42Speaker 1: not in the police academy yet, though.
- 10:44Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
- 10:45Speaker 1: You're not in the police academy yet.
- 10:46Speaker 2: No, sir, I'm not.
- 10:47Speaker 1: All right, here is Jessica.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 10:50Speaker 1: You're on the Phil Henry Show with Dave Oliva. Jessica?
- 10:53Speaker 2: Hello. Yes, ma'am.
- 10:55Speaker 5: I am calling, I don't agree with you with what
- 10:58Speaker 5: you're saying. The fact that this is a television show
- 11:02Speaker 5: and these people are trying to make it famous and
- 11:04Speaker 5: they need to be, I mean.
- 11:06Speaker 6: I know that they shouldn't be told that type of stuff.
- 11:08Speaker 5: That isn't right. But you as a man should not
- 11:12Speaker 5: tell your wife or your girlfriend.
- 11:13Speaker 2: How come they get to say it though? See, that's
- 11:15Speaker 2: what I'm saying. How come they get to say it?
- 11:17Speaker 6: Because that's what they get paid for. You don't get
- 11:21Speaker 6: paid to do that. They get paid to do that
- 11:24Speaker 6: kind of stuff.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I bring home the money. Well, I don't actually bring
- 11:27Speaker 2: my wife's work in mostly now, but... Oh. Well, what's
- 11:31Speaker 2: the matter with that?
- 11:33Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about that is a reality show.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Right, reality. Reality.
- 11:41Speaker 6: It's for entertainment.
- 11:43Speaker 5: I don't like American Idol, but it's for entertainment. It's
- 11:47Speaker 5: not for people to take things from. You don't take
- 11:51Speaker 5: anything what Survivor does.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sure you do. Sure you do. You can
- 11:56Speaker 2: learn a lot on the Survivor show about eating. You
- 12:00Speaker 2: can eat dirt if you need to.
- 12:02Speaker 5: No, no, no.
- 12:02Speaker 2: It's entertainment. That's ridiculous. What do you mean it's entertainment?
- 12:05Speaker 2: Let's do it. For my entertainment, women stand up there
- 12:07Speaker 2: and let guys tell them their butt's too big.
- 12:10Speaker 6: It's not. They are going to try to make a
- 12:13Speaker 6: thing in the celebrity world.
- 12:15Speaker 2: See, you can't argue against that.
- 12:17Speaker 1: No, but wait a minute.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Yes, I can.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Jessica's saying that those women need to take that kind
- 12:22Speaker 1: of criticism in order to become successful.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Exactly. And women need to take criticism from their husbands
- 12:28Speaker 2: in order to be presentable at the wedding, which will
- 12:30Speaker 2: come in June after the harvest. What?
- 12:33Speaker 6: No, that's disrespectful.
- 12:35Speaker 2: No.
- 12:35Speaker 6: What if she told you just that?
- 12:37Speaker 2: Oh, my God. This is a total stranger telling you
- 12:39Speaker 2: your butt's too big, but your husband can't say it
- 12:41Speaker 2: because he's being disrespectful? Well, how come a total stranger can't? Right.
- 12:46Speaker 6: That's because they know that they're going to be up there,
- 12:49Speaker 6: and that's the type of stuff that's going to be
- 12:50Speaker 6: said to them. But you're her husband, and you need
- 12:54Speaker 6: to tell her she's beautiful and you love.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Her no matter what.
- 12:59Speaker 6: What if she told you you were fat?
- 13:01Speaker 2: She would not say that. I'm the man. I'm the man.
- 13:04Speaker 2: She will not say that to me.
- 13:06Speaker 5: You're the man?
- 13:07Speaker 2: I'm the man. She will not say that to me. Oh, yes,
- 13:10Speaker 2: she will.
- 13:11Speaker 4: What?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Oh.
- 13:11Speaker 1: All right. Look, here's a question for you, Dave. You
- 13:15Speaker 1: are saying that the American Idol show is criticizing women.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Why can't husbands have the same right?
- 13:23Speaker 2: Exactly. Why can't a husband say to his wife, hey,
- 13:26Speaker 2: why don't you get your face like there's pimples and stuff?
- 13:29Speaker 2: You know, no, we can't do that because American Idol
- 13:31Speaker 2: gets to do it.
- 13:32Speaker 1: All right.
- 13:34Speaker 2: What are you squealing for, baby?
- 13:36Speaker 6: That is ridiculous.
- 13:37Speaker 2: That is ridiculous. What?
- 13:39Speaker 6: I cannot even believe you're saying that. You look like
- 13:42Speaker 6: you're in a barnyard, man. Are you a male chauvinist pig?
- 13:44Speaker 2: You're the one squealing like a pig, not me.
- 13:46Speaker 1: All right, okay, okay, hold on.
- 13:47Speaker 2: You're squealing like a pig. You're squealing like a hoglet.
- 13:50Speaker 5: Oh, you're a jerk.
- 13:51Speaker 2: No, you are. You're going, yee! You're a jerk. I'm
- 13:54Speaker 2: a jerk?
- 13:55Speaker 5: You're a jerk.
- 13:55Speaker 2: How can I be a jerk when I'm saying I
- 13:58Speaker 2: want the same rights that Simon Cowell has, but you
- 14:00Speaker 2: won't let me have that?
- 14:01Speaker 5: Unbelievable.
- 14:03Speaker 6: You can't even answer the question.
- 14:05Speaker 2: You can't tell you you're fat?
- 14:08Speaker 6: Is that what you're saying?
- 14:09Speaker 2: No, this is about women who get on American Idol
- 14:11Speaker 2: and are pulled at their butt's length.
- 14:13Speaker 6: Men get on American Idol, too.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Not that many. Yes, there are.
- 14:18Speaker 6: Who won American Idol the last three times?
- 14:21Speaker 2: That girl did last time. Hello? God, man.
- 14:24Speaker 6: No.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:25Speaker 6: I believe Ruben Stutter or whatever.
- 14:27Speaker 2: No, man.
- 14:28Speaker 6: And then Clay Atkin or whatever.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And then Kelly Clarkson. It was a girl last year.
- 14:32Speaker 1: I forget her name.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Yeah, like Shemeika or something, man.
- 14:37Speaker 6: But the men have won.
- 14:38Speaker 2: I've got to take a break, Jessica.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Men are on there. I've got to take a break, Jessica.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Thank you for calling 1-800-449-8686. Why do women allow total
- 14:46Speaker 1: strangers on American Idol to speak to them disrespectfully about
- 14:49Speaker 1: their weight, their appearance, their voice? and yet they won't
- 14:51Speaker 1: allow their husbands the exact same right. 1-800-449-8686, Phil Henry Show.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686. I'm starting to be LAPD. That's right,
- 15:01Speaker 1: I'm going to be LAPD.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Hey, how do you like me now? How do you
- 15:06Speaker 2: like me now?
- 15:40Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
- 15:41Speaker 1: The Phil Hendry Show is back. Did you go on
- 15:46Speaker 1: the website, David?
- 15:48Speaker 2: Yes, I did. And on the website, okay, the year
- 15:52Speaker 2: that Ruben stuttered, like, he didn't win. He lost. Okay,
- 15:57Speaker 2: so I don't know what these women are talking about.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Most of the finalists are females. And, like, you know,
- 16:04Speaker 2: I just think it's wrong that they're... letting us have
- 16:10Speaker 2: a message that they'll stand there and have a smile
- 16:14Speaker 2: on their face when Simon Cowell or the Jackson brothers
- 16:19Speaker 2: or whatever, I mean, the guy's name.
- 16:22Speaker 1: It's called Randy Jackson.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Randy Jackson tells them, yeah, you know what? You'd be
- 16:27Speaker 2: really great if your butt wasn't the size of a
- 16:31Speaker 2: basketball court. To me, that's ridiculous. And then when I
- 16:35Speaker 2: try to say it, I'm called a pig and a
- 16:38Speaker 2: male chauvinist pig.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Well, you articulated very well what your point is, Dave Oliva.
- 16:45Speaker 1: But this has to do with your career as a
- 16:46Speaker 1: police officer because you want to learn about domestic violence, right?
- 16:49Speaker 2: Yes, sir. What prompts it? I think American Idol is
- 16:51Speaker 2: going to have a lot of people get their... A
- 16:54Speaker 2: lot of women will be beat up because of that show.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Okay, 1-800-449-8686. Alexis, go ahead. You're on the air with
- 16:59Speaker 1: Dave Oliva.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 17:04Speaker 7: Hi there. First of all, he just made a comment
- 17:06Speaker 7: that women are going to be beaded up. I think
- 17:09Speaker 7: right there that kind of tells all your callers that
- 17:12Speaker 7: this man does not know what he's talking about. I
- 17:14Speaker 7: don't think that the American Idol show gives anyone the
- 17:17Speaker 7: idea that it's okay to disrespect women in any manner.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I mean, what does Simon Cowell do?
- 17:25Speaker 7: Can I please talk without you interrupting me?
- 17:27Speaker 2: Okay, I thought we were having a conversation. I didn't
- 17:29Speaker 2: know you were giving a speech.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 17:31Speaker 2: I didn't know you were giving a speech.
- 17:32Speaker 7: You had your chance.
- 17:33Speaker 6: Now it's my turn.
- 17:34Speaker 2: If you're giving a speech, let me go get my popcorn.
- 17:35Speaker 2: You had your chance. Now it's my turn, okay? Can
- 17:37Speaker 2: I pop some popcorn?
- 17:39Speaker 7: What does that mean? As a performer myself and someone
- 17:45Speaker 7: who has auditioned for American Idol, going into that competition,
- 17:49Speaker 7: I knew that, and this is the entertainment business, that
- 17:53Speaker 7: is what they are going to do because... So much
- 17:57Speaker 7: of the entertainment, of course, is based off of what
- 17:59Speaker 7: people look like. Let's look at Britney Spears. Let's look
- 18:02Speaker 7: at Jessica Simpson.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Hold on for a minute. Alexis, hold on. What are
- 18:06Speaker 1: you doing?
- 18:07Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
- 18:07Speaker 1: What are you doing?
- 18:08Speaker 2: I'm opening up a can of soup.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Will you listen to the caller, please?
- 18:12Speaker 2: Yeah, she said to me, you know, yeah, you have
- 18:15Speaker 2: to listen to me. So I thought I'd get some
- 18:17Speaker 2: soup going.
- 18:18Speaker 7: I'm not worried about him in any manner. I want
- 18:20Speaker 7: your listeners to listen to what.
- 18:21Speaker 2: I need to say.
- 18:22Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Alexis, you were a contestant
- 18:23Speaker 1: on American Idol.
- 18:24Speaker 3: Yes, I was.
- 18:25Speaker 1: And were you out of which state? What part of
- 18:27Speaker 1: the country were you in?
- 18:28Speaker 7: I went to Cleveland, Ohio, but I'm from New York.
- 18:30Speaker 1: All right. And you went to the audition, and you
- 18:34Speaker 1: experienced this critique, did you not, from these people?
- 18:39Speaker 7: Yes, I did, but not nearly what you see on television.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Hold on a minute. I need for you to stop
- 18:46Speaker 1: opening that can.
- 18:48Speaker 2: I'm opening up a can of chicken broth.
- 18:49Speaker 4: God.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 18:52Speaker 7: Okay.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Why doesn't she sing to prove it?
- 18:55Speaker 1: Will you let me talk to her, please, sir?
- 18:57Speaker 2: All right.
- 18:57Speaker 1: So you went through this critique, not with Simon Cowell
- 19:01Speaker 1: or these people. It was a lesser board of people.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Is that it? Yes.
- 19:05Speaker 7: The producers of the show are the ones that actually
- 19:08Speaker 7: audition you first.
- 19:09Speaker 1: I got you.
- 19:09Speaker 7: You have to get through rounds of them in order
- 19:11Speaker 7: to get to Simon.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Why don't you sing to prove that you were there?
- 19:16Speaker 1: Let me speak to her.
- 19:18Speaker 2: You know she said she was but.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Can you sing alexis oh.
- 19:23Speaker 7: Of course i can sing but do you really need.
- 19:25Speaker 1: To sing right now just a little just a little
- 19:27Speaker 1: something like uh just three lines from your favorite song
- 19:34Speaker 1: you know let's want me to just suggest.
- 19:36Speaker 7: One um pick a song i'm trying to think of
- 19:39Speaker 7: something that i can.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Sing who's a favorite artist of yours I'm.
- 19:42Speaker 7: Trying to think. I'm definitely a Britney fan, but I'm
- 19:44Speaker 7: trying to think of something.
- 19:45Speaker 8: Else I could sing for you.
- 19:46Speaker 1: How about that song that I like, that little ballad
- 19:47Speaker 1: she did, Sometimes I... You know that one?
- 19:50Speaker 2: Oh, goodness.
- 19:51Speaker 1: You don't like that song?
- 19:52Speaker 7: How about I sing.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Why don't you sing what you did at the tryout
- 19:55Speaker 2: to prove that you really... Will you let me.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Talk to her?
- 19:57Speaker 2: Go ahead. Oh, my Lord.
- 20:00Speaker 7: Okay.
- 20:02Speaker 8: I've been doing my own thing. Love has always had
- 20:07Speaker 8: a way of having bad timing. But to my great surprise,
- 20:13Speaker 8: as ever since I looked in your eyes, I've had
- 20:18Speaker 8: one question for you.
- 20:22Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Is that okay for now? That's beautiful.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Mr. Henry, I think you're... First of all, she's white,
- 20:27Speaker 2: and she's trying to sound like she's dark.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Secondly, would you please.
- 20:32Speaker 8: I'm a lotto, actually, to be honest.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Okay, and the other thing... How big is your butt? Okay,
- 20:36Speaker 2: let's ask questions like that because that's what they ask him.
- 20:40Speaker 7: Can I ask him a question?
- 20:41Speaker 1: Does he have a six-pack?
- 20:42Speaker 7: Is he a model? Because I'm sure that you're not.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Someday I do. I want to be LAPD. I want
- 20:47Speaker 2: to be LAPD, so I think I'm ripped.
- 20:48Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that you're a model, sweetheart. It doesn't
- 20:50Speaker 7: mean that you're a model and that you're anything to
- 20:52Speaker 7: look at because by what you're saying today and how
- 20:55Speaker 7: you can't speak proper English, that's telling me that you
- 20:58Speaker 7: don't have that much going for you.
- 20:59Speaker 2: I want to be ripped because I want to be LAPD.
- 21:02Speaker 1: All right, thanks.
- 21:04Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. Be right back.
- 21:04Speaker 1: World famous Phil Hendry Show. The Phil Hendry Show.
- 21:07Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Extremism.
- 21:44Speaker 7: 1-800-449-8686.
- 21:44Speaker 1: The Phil Hendry Show is back. Dave Oliva with me.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Dave is studying to be a police officer. He's on
- 21:52Speaker 1: the line with me talking about American Idol, a program
- 21:54Speaker 1: that he believes encourages violence against women. And the reason
- 21:59Speaker 1: why you say that, Dave, and I'm going to try
- 22:00Speaker 1: to articulate it for you if you don't mind, because
- 22:01Speaker 1: that last lady, you used a word that was bad grammar.
- 22:05Speaker 1: You said beat it up, beat it it up.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Well, okay, I mean, I'm not getting paid as an LAPD.
- 22:12Speaker 2: If I become an LAPD, I'm not going to be
- 22:14Speaker 2: paid if I don't use good English. You know, I'm
- 22:18Speaker 2: being paid to protect the lives and the safety of
- 22:20Speaker 2: the citizens of Los Angeles, California, okay? All I'm saying
- 22:25Speaker 2: is I don't need my job made tougher as an
- 22:28Speaker 2: LAPD officer by American Idol. telling guys to go out
- 22:33Speaker 2: there and tell their woman that her butt's huge and
- 22:37Speaker 2: she's probably got a pimple on it she needs to
- 22:39Speaker 2: pop and.
- 22:40Speaker 1: They don't say that man they don't say that at
- 22:43Speaker 1: all okay now you're on their.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Website yeah I am on their website right now Mr.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Henry it says here be prepared for very personal questions
- 22:50Speaker 2: and comments about your and there's the three things about
- 22:53Speaker 2: your vocal ability about your appearance and about your personal
- 22:57Speaker 2: hygiene and what does that mean it means your breath
- 23:01Speaker 2: how your armpits smell, you know, feminine areas and stuff.
- 23:09Speaker 2: I mean, okay. And yet a total stranger named Simon
- 23:12Speaker 2: Cowell can tell that girl that we were just talking to, Alexis, hey, yeah, God, man.
- 23:18Speaker 2: There's some FDS in the bathroom.
- 23:20Speaker 1: He doesn't say that. They don't even go there, man.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Well, but that's what they're saying on the website, is
- 23:26Speaker 2: maybe they can, you know?
- 23:27Speaker 1: And no, they're not, dude. They're saying it's a professional
- 23:30Speaker 1: review of your performance, and stage presence includes the way
- 23:36Speaker 1: you look and the way you dress.
- 23:38Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
- 23:38Speaker 1: David, go ahead. You're on The Phil Henry Show.
- 23:42Speaker 4: Hey, Phil, it's my second night listening to you. I
- 23:44Speaker 4: just cannot figure out where you are getting these morons from.
- 23:48Speaker 4: This guy is so stupid, man.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Oh, you really sound like a brain surgeon yourself, man.
- 23:53Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to sit there and you're going to
- 23:55Speaker 4: tell me you want to be an LAPD officer, and
- 23:57Speaker 4: you can't even distinguish the difference between a talk show.
- 24:01Speaker 4: And reality, are you that stupid, man?
- 24:03Speaker 2: Hey, dude, it's called a reality show. Yeah, okay.
- 24:06Speaker 4: Yeah, those people put under the gun because they're wanting
- 24:09Speaker 4: a contract. They're going to take that abuse, okay? They
- 24:12Speaker 4: realize that.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Well, why don't they take that abuse in a marriage, man?
- 24:15Speaker 4: What you need to realize is that you need to
- 24:18Speaker 4: straighten up. If it's not such.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Reality, man, how come they get paid and how come
- 24:22Speaker 2: they get rich? Are you telling me that's a fantasy, too?
- 24:24Speaker 4: No, that might happen.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Excuse me, I think I scored one, man. Oh, yeah,
- 24:29Speaker 2: I think I scored one, man. In other words, in
- 24:31Speaker 2: your mind, man, it's all fantasy when they get paid
- 24:33Speaker 2: and they get wealthy.
- 24:34Speaker 4: Hey, they all don't make it.
- 24:37Speaker 2: The one that does, man, they had to take the
- 24:38Speaker 2: same grief, dude. And that guy's telling her, yeah, man,
- 24:41Speaker 2: why don't you try douching him?
- 24:42Speaker 1: No, he does not.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Oh, man, come on.
- 24:44Speaker 1: No, he does not.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
- 24:46Speaker 4: Forget about that for a second. You're wanting to be
- 24:48Speaker 4: a police officer, and you don't have any better sense
- 24:50Speaker 4: than to say something like that.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Are you a police officer?
- 24:53Speaker 4: I was a constable for three years.
- 24:55Speaker 2: In what, England or something?
- 24:57Speaker 4: Oh, come on, man.
- 24:58Speaker 2: What do you mean a constable, man?
- 25:00Speaker 4: You take the same test that you're taking, and you're
- 25:03Speaker 4: basically a part-time police officer.
- 25:05Speaker 2: They don't call them constables in America, man. That's why
- 25:08Speaker 2: I know that.
- 25:08Speaker 4: That's why they call them.
- 25:09Speaker 2: You're lying, man.
- 25:11Speaker 1: In some areas they call them constables, yes.
- 25:12Speaker 4: They don't even know what you're talking about, man. When
- 25:14Speaker 4: you take that psychological test, they find out you're dumb
- 25:17Speaker 4: as a rock. They're not going to let you be
- 25:19Speaker 4: a police officer.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Hey, whatever, man. Hey, guess what? Hey, rent-a-top. Yeah.
- 25:24Speaker 4: That's what you was, man.
- 25:25Speaker 2: No, listen, man. That's what you was, dude, and I'm
- 25:28Speaker 2: going to be LAPD, man, the best police force in America.
- 25:31Speaker 2: You're just jealous, man.
- 25:32Speaker 4: You'll never make it. You're living a pipe dream, man.
- 25:34Speaker 4: You're living a pipe dream.
- 25:35Speaker 2: At least I'm living a pipe dream. You smoke it
- 25:37Speaker 2: out of a pipe, man.
- 25:38Speaker 4: What's the dude laughing at, man?
- 25:41Speaker 2: All right, lookit.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Both of you guys, I'm not really sure what your
- 25:44Speaker 1: points are.
- 25:45Speaker 4: My point is.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Lookit, David, you make a very good point when you
- 25:48Speaker 1: say it's a game show, but Dave also makes a
- 25:50Speaker 1: good point when he says, but that's not a fantasy.
- 25:52Speaker 1: They're winning money.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Hey, man, did you remember to turn off the yellow
- 25:56Speaker 2: light on top of your car?
- 25:58Speaker 4: The point I'm making, Phil, is this gentleman, he's going
- 26:02Speaker 4: to base his whole way of thinking around a TV show.
- 26:06Speaker 4: If he cannot figure it out any better, he does
- 26:08Speaker 4: not need to be a police officer.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you, are you married, man? Yes, sir. Okay,
- 26:11Speaker 2: have you ever told your wife, hey, you know what,
- 26:13Speaker 2: your butt's getting kind of big?
- 26:15Speaker 4: No way, man, I wouldn't tell her that. I don't
- 26:18Speaker 4: want to hurt my wife's feelings.
- 26:20Speaker 2: So you live with a woman who's got a gargantuan butt?
- 26:22Speaker 4: No, I didn't say I had that problem. But in
- 26:25Speaker 4: certain issues, you don't necessarily.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Have to pay somewhat. How does it feel to wear
- 26:29Speaker 2: a sew-on badge?
- 26:30Speaker 4: All right, okay.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Well, thanks for your call, sir.
- 26:35Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Here is Christina. Go ahead, Christina.
- 26:39Speaker 7: Hey, nothing personal against Dave.
- 26:42Speaker 4: I'm sure there are cops that have worse grammar than
- 26:44Speaker 4: he does.
- 26:46Speaker 2: My point is... All of a sudden, everybody here is
- 26:49Speaker 2: William F. Buckley, huh?
- 26:51Speaker 7: Why focus on American Idol only?
- 26:54Speaker 1: There are so many other.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Do you know what the word lugubrious means?
- 26:59Speaker 8: I'm sorry?
- 26:59Speaker 2: Do you know what the word lugubrious means?
- 27:01Speaker 1: No, what is that?
- 27:02Speaker 2: It means mournful or sorrowful. So I know a word
- 27:06Speaker 2: that I use in everyday usage, and you don't. My
- 27:09Speaker 2: grammar's bad? You don't even have a vocabulary.
- 27:13Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Catherine. Catherine, go ahead.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Yes, hi. I was just wondering how you could possibly
- 27:23Speaker 3: think that a television show could, like, dictate anything, like,
- 27:28Speaker 3: to real life.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Because when I watched American Idol and Ryan Seaman and
- 27:32Speaker 2: all those people are saying, you know.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Ryan Seaman? His name's Seacrest.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Okay. Ryan Seacrest is telling all those women, hey... Yeah,
- 27:43Speaker 2: you know, your voice is okay, but your butt's too big,
- 27:46Speaker 2: your face is all horrific.
- 27:49Speaker 3: But so, they are performers, and look, this person is
- 27:53Speaker 3: your wife. You are somebody that you are in a
- 27:56Speaker 3: relationship with.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Someone that you are at home with.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Right.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Someone that you see in a day-to-day life. Not somebody
- 28:03Speaker 3: who's on the television. Not somebody who is packaged as
- 28:06Speaker 3: a Britney Spears wannabe.
- 28:07Speaker 2: But don't you understand that a total stranger can tell
- 28:12Speaker 2: you your butt's too big, but your husband can't?
- 28:15Speaker 3: No, your husband can, but you don't have to be
- 28:17Speaker 3: a total asshole about it.
- 28:18Speaker 2: That's insanity.
- 28:20Speaker 3: No, you don't have to.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Say, how does your husband say to you, okay, Catherine,
- 28:26Speaker 2: you know, your butt's widening out pretty drastically. How does
- 28:30Speaker 2: he say that?
- 28:31Speaker 3: Hey, maybe, you know, let's go out and, you know,
- 28:34Speaker 3: take a couple walks around the block or something, you know?
- 28:37Speaker 2: And then you'll say, how come? And then he'll say,
- 28:39Speaker 2: because your butt's large?
- 28:42Speaker 3: Yeah, well, then you nip the problem, you know?
- 28:46Speaker 2: Get the problem done. Then there's nothing wrong with that.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Because he told you your butt was large.
- 28:55Speaker 3: But see, the whole thing about American Idol and everything,
- 28:59Speaker 3: you don't have to be a.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Total jerk about it.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Exactly, and you don't have to.
- 29:05Speaker 8: Come off as taking it from the TV show.
- 29:09Speaker 1: What did you say to your girlfriend that made her leave?
- 29:12Speaker 2: I said to her, because her name's Christina, right? I
- 29:15Speaker 2: said to Christina, man, it's getting kind of toilet sloppy.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Okay, you said what?
- 29:22Speaker 2: I said her butt was getting toilet sloppy. Well, what
- 29:27Speaker 2: are you laughing about? What are you laughing about, man?
- 29:30Speaker 8: Oh, my God.
- 29:31Speaker 3: I am laughing that she is even with you.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Simon Cowell gets to say it?
- 29:35Speaker 1: I've never heard Simon Cowell say your butt's toilet sloppy.
- 29:39Speaker 2: God. Okay, forget it, then. Forget I even brought it up.
- 29:45Speaker 1: All right, Catherine, thank you so much for your call.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 29:51Speaker 2: Forget I brought it up, man.
- 29:53Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll forget you brought it up. Simon Cowell
- 29:57Speaker 1: told somebody on the show.
- 29:58Speaker 2: I heard him say something like that. He told one
- 30:00Speaker 2: black girl, geez, you need a little work in the backyard, man.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I heard him tell one guy, you got more rolls
- 30:08Speaker 2: than a bakery. Then I heard him tell a midget.
- 30:11Speaker 1: All right, see you later, man. Dave Oliver. World-famous Phil
- 30:16Speaker 1: Hendry Show is executive produced by Phil Hendry for Siempre Incorporated,
- 30:19Speaker 1: all rights reserved on iHeart Podcasts.