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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 24 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: TikTok's highest rated singing barbecue chef, Kay Pece Shadrick. I
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  Speaker 1: have never never made one TikTok. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: how to do it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, J P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick on this Monday afternoon, as always, Pete Briscoe, Tony
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  Speaker 1: BASSELLI join us, and we've got a program today with
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  Speaker 1: these two maintenance days, another one today for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Will get into the guys who were off to the
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  Speaker 1: side indoors today and what that really means. From head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug Marrone. A little more offensive line talk. George
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  Speaker 1: Warhocks will over the weekend about the state of the
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  Speaker 1: left tackle position. We'll get Tony's thoughts on that, some
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  Speaker 1: quarterback talk as well, social question or two, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League. Pete, Tony, what's up, Tony?
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  Speaker 1: How are we doing today? Well? I got issues here,
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  Speaker 1: I got all kinds of video issues, but I'm doing good,
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  Speaker 1: doing good. How are you guys doing? What kind of
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  Speaker 1: Florida what what kind of issue? Yeah, I can't see either,
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  Speaker 1: but that's okay. That's not a bad thing. Not seeing
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  Speaker 1: you two. I'm okay with that. We're in high definition, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: to speak for yourself definition. It brings out all your
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  Speaker 1: flaws even more so, j Pe, I hate to tell
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  Speaker 1: you that. Oh wow, takes one to know one. Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You know, it has been a
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  Speaker 1: positive day on the COVID nineteam front, and in fact,
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  Speaker 1: well not a positive day, a negative day. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the league just a few minutes ago announced some of
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  Speaker 1: the results from August twelve and twentieth that week. In
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  Speaker 1: that span over a week there between August twelve in August,
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  Speaker 1: they administered just over fifty eight thousand tests to about
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  Speaker 1: NFL players and personnel, and they had zero confirmed positives
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  Speaker 1: among players and only six among personnel. Pete. That is
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  Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, it really is. And it's a tribute to
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  Speaker 1: a the players because I expected a few knuckleheads to
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  Speaker 1: go out and bring it back in once in a while,
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  Speaker 1: but they haven't done that, which is a good thing. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's a real tribute to the teams
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  Speaker 1: for the way they're handling things. And the money that
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  Speaker 1: the owners have spent to make things, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: secure and as safe as possibly can be. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a good it's a great look for the league. You know, people,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. There were many in the
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  Speaker 1: media who thought that this would be a disaster. They
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  Speaker 1: predicted it. It's kind of like the people in the
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  Speaker 1: media who predicted Florida would become the next New York
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  Speaker 1: and that's clearly not happening. Uh, as it relates to
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  Speaker 1: this virus. So I think that this this is a
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  Speaker 1: situation where the NFL should be given a ton of
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  Speaker 1: credit and by the way, the entire offseason they should
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  Speaker 1: be given a ton of credit. Remember in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of this thing, they said, oh, you can't have the draft.
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  Speaker 1: The draft was one of the best they've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: Then the you know, first it was free agency, then
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  Speaker 1: the draft. They've moved on. They've done a really good
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  Speaker 1: job with it. Let's hope it stays that way. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: Pete being positive, it's a shocking state of affairs here
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  Speaker 1: today on the Monday Show. Usually you come out firing
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  Speaker 1: bullets of people and they're very very nice to the
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  Speaker 1: league and everything else. I agree, though, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: handled perfectly. Now. The real test, though, is coming up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's not Let's be clear, is once we
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  Speaker 1: get into the games and you have teams working together
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  Speaker 1: and traveling and everything else, um, and how do they
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  Speaker 1: manage if you do have a positive test. What would
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  Speaker 1: have happened if the false positives that the New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: Lab came up with happened the Saturday before and NFL
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  Speaker 1: game and you had five six teams that had significant
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  Speaker 1: portions of their rosters not really sick, not even having COVID,
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  Speaker 1: but because the false positives wouldn't be able to play
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  Speaker 1: a game. Well, I think what you would do, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: is you put the push the game off until Monday.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, you're playing in the stadium
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  Speaker 1: with any fans, and fans aren't making trips to go
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  Speaker 1: to games. You know there might be some fans. Some
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  Speaker 1: of those stadiums won't have any fans. You just push
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  Speaker 1: it to Monday, fix it, go back, retest everybody so
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  Speaker 1: to make sure it's not a problem, and then play
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  Speaker 1: the game on Monday. It's all doable. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: is all What if it isn't What if they weren't
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  Speaker 1: false positives what they're really positives. And now you have
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  Speaker 1: significant number of players that be on the player I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying, I think they listen. I applaud the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're doing a great job. I applaud the
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  Speaker 1: players to your point, because really it's about the individuals
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  Speaker 1: taking care of their their business and being professional. So
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  Speaker 1: I am a hundred percent aligned with you. I'm just saying, um,
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  Speaker 1: I have. I'm kind of just I'm tempering my excitement
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  Speaker 1: about where we are because I definitely want to play
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  Speaker 1: football and watch football this year and be a part
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  Speaker 1: of it and called games. But we're still a long
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  Speaker 1: way to go, um to get to that portion of
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  Speaker 1: it which will really determine whether this is successful or not.
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  Speaker 1: But also their young athletes, you get, you know how
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  Speaker 1: many guys have already had it and then come back
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  Speaker 1: and already back on the active roster. And it might
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  Speaker 1: happen where a guy sits out one game, but he's
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  Speaker 1: back the next week. I think that's a possibility, Let's
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  Speaker 1: be honest, Tony. Two of the three on this show,
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  Speaker 1: I've had it, you and me because I had it
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  Speaker 1: too and then I recovered and it was like having
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  Speaker 1: a flu for me, and I didn't, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, I didn't even know I had it, um so,
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  Speaker 1: and you you were clearly in a different situation than me.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's one of those you know, we're young, active,
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  Speaker 1: athletic guys are going to respond to it and bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: And you look how healthy I am right now, picture
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  Speaker 1: of solid gold right here. Come on. Yeah, no one
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  Speaker 1: is saying that watching nobody, nobody, That's what we were
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  Speaker 1: all thinking about. Yeah, I mean, but and I hear you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying there's
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  Speaker 1: a you know, it's not just it's not just the players,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the young guys, it's the older coaches.
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  Speaker 1: And you have a lot of things that we have
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  Speaker 1: to manage and really be careful about right now. And
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  Speaker 1: uh so, I'm with you. I hope it's the case.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that we get through it and we continue
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  Speaker 1: to have the success that we penciled far. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's continue with the Jaguars talk now and the Jags
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  Speaker 1: back of the practice field today. But well, some of
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  Speaker 1: the Jags were back on the practice field today. Twenty
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  Speaker 1: four or so players were kept inside for maintenance to day.
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  Speaker 1: It's the second time that's happened in camp so far
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  Speaker 1: and it included today some big time names. Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: was one of those not on the original list, but
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  Speaker 1: then once we got to practice, he wasn't on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field either. They brought him back inside as well.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Marone before practice today, explaining what a maintenance day
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  Speaker 1: really means. Even though that you guys aren't able to
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  Speaker 1: see them, I want to try to give you some
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  Speaker 1: insight to what they do. Uh. You know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those guys are for medical reasons in the past
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  Speaker 1: that they've had issues with or in the past I've
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  Speaker 1: had time struggling you know through a season, um for
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  Speaker 1: odds and ends. But what we do is we try
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  Speaker 1: to take the amount the workload that they would have
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  Speaker 1: in a normal practice and try to simulate that, which
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  Speaker 1: we can do because it's all monitored. So basically what's
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  Speaker 1: happening is you have a team out there on the
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  Speaker 1: field that that that that's practicing, and then the players
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  Speaker 1: that are inside, you know, they're they're doing you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're just having the same amount of tax on their body.
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  Speaker 1: They're just not going through Uh. You know they're not
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  Speaker 1: getting hit. So that's Dug Maroon before practice today with
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  Speaker 1: a little explanation of what was to come. But it
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  Speaker 1: was a little I don't know jarring is the right word,
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  Speaker 1: but it was different not seeing a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: big names out there. Tony, Yeah, and I hear what
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  Speaker 1: Doug is saying. Um, but it's already a limited camp.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, only what is it like what we end
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  Speaker 1: up saying? It's eleven or twelve thirteen days, fourteen total
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  Speaker 1: padded practices, eleven full time padded practices. Yes, so let's
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  Speaker 1: just call it fourteen fourteen padded practice. Do you need
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  Speaker 1: a maintenance day because you're hitting too much? I get
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  Speaker 1: if you have an injury or something like that that
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  Speaker 1: you want to be smart, but work. I mean, look
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  Speaker 1: at that list. You have a bunch of young guys.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, josh al Joan Taylor second, your players. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's hey, listen, they got science and um they know
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  Speaker 1: other players better than we do. But I'm a little
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  Speaker 1: bit surprised, to be honest with you, that certain guys
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  Speaker 1: are on that list. It doesn't make sense to me
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  Speaker 1: when you have only fourteen days of padded practices. Why
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  Speaker 1: why you would give extended rest two really young players.
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  Speaker 1: You used to have fourteen days of pad of practices
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  Speaker 1: in ten days, Yeah, the first week, the first week,
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  Speaker 1: we'd have fourteen practices or like that. Yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you're your first couple of days of two days with
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  Speaker 1: no pads. So let's just call it dave three or
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  Speaker 1: four your full pads and you go twice a day
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  Speaker 1: every day. Um, and listen, I'm not advocating that that's
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  Speaker 1: the the right way either by any means, um, but
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  Speaker 1: I I I don't get it. I don't understand why
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  Speaker 1: you'd have vacation or maintenance days or whatever you wanna
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  Speaker 1: call the days for young players when you have limited reps.
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  Speaker 1: This is a young football team. Let's not forget it's
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  Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator with a second year quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: just can't I mean, less Gardner Minshew has like dead arm,
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  Speaker 1: which is so early. I can't believe it's that or
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  Speaker 1: some injury we don't know about. Why would you not
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  Speaker 1: give him every possible rep in a new offense with
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  Speaker 1: new players or onund him Um, I mean Juwan Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. Um. Young guys need as many reption as
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  Speaker 1: they can get a guy Josh Allen, who's um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: up and comings and be counted on to be one
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  Speaker 1: of the best players on this team. Again injury, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: be conservative with injuries. I get that. But just a
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  Speaker 1: maintenance day because there's too much hitting when you're only
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  Speaker 1: hitting fourteen days. Um. So they started camp one day
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  Speaker 1: JP August one, right around there. Uh yeah, right around
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  Speaker 1: that window. But it was the ramp up. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's all so from August one to September that is
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  Speaker 1: six weeks. You're gonna have fourteen hard practices. That's two
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  Speaker 1: padded practices a week on average, maybe if you you know,
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  Speaker 1: two point one or two point two. My point is
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  Speaker 1: it's not extending yourself. I mean that's just not it's
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  Speaker 1: not it's not like they're doing nine on seven and
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  Speaker 1: like tackling the ground and go line and they have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but as it relates to the quarterback. As it relates
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  Speaker 1: to the quarterback, why on earth would you give him
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  Speaker 1: a day off? I mean, it's not like he's got
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  Speaker 1: a dead arm or anything and makes that guy needs
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  Speaker 1: the practice more than anybody. He's the starter, he's entering
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  Speaker 1: his second year. It's a new offense. He should be
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  Speaker 1: on the field every single rep he can possibly get
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  Speaker 1: that one. I don't understand at all. Maybe a veteran
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  Speaker 1: day here and there. But I'm with you, Tony, this
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  Speaker 1: this makes no sense to me with the limited amount
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  Speaker 1: of time that you have. Now, I do know they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna actually have a scrimmage in the stadium on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounds like they're gonna tackle and hit and
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  Speaker 1: go to the ground and it's gonna look like a
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. And from what I understand, is that correct? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Understanding it has some, It has some. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: a practice will have some drills and all that early
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  Speaker 1: and then some eleven on eleven work. That's the way
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  Speaker 1: I understand it as of today on Monday. Of course
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  Speaker 1: I can build as the week goes on. Here. But
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  Speaker 1: to to to your point about tackling to the ground,
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  Speaker 1: they have been doing a little bit of live working.
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  Speaker 1: Have been doing some Miles Jack tackling Leonard four Nette
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  Speaker 1: all the way to the ground is alive rep. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, Tony, I'm not disagreeing. I watched the tape
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  Speaker 1: on I watched every play from Saturday's practice, and they
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  Speaker 1: had eleven on eleven but they had one period where
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  Speaker 1: it was tackled through the ground and it wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: the whole period um. And so I'm not saying they're
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  Speaker 1: not So how many guys tackled? How did the secondary
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  Speaker 1: get to tackle it all in those drills? A little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Not much. I'm just saying, yes, again, there's not enough tackling. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're yeah, whatever, whatever. What do you want me to saying?
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  Speaker 1: We're beating this, We're beating the thing to death. And
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  Speaker 1: but it is what it is. They're gonna have maintenance days,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have second year players and quarterbacks that
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  Speaker 1: have played, you know, ten games as getting maintenance days
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  Speaker 1: they haven't played. Pete, I hope it works. Pete. Is
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  Speaker 1: this a trend around the league or is this kind
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  Speaker 1: of a one off? What's the kind of guy? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: guys are getting maintenance days, no question about it. And
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  Speaker 1: I personally don't understand it. I think you need to
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  Speaker 1: hit as much as you possibly can. You only have
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  Speaker 1: X amount of days to get ready for the season. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't have preseason games. And granted preseason games,
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  Speaker 1: you might play ten plays in the first one and
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  Speaker 1: you know, thirty and then I mean, and then twenty
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe fifteen eighteen, then none. But you hit,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta hit. It's a football. Tony can tell you
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  Speaker 1: better than any of us. You gotta hit people. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta be able to understand the angles when you're tackling.
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  Speaker 1: The speed of the game and thumping a guy is
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  Speaker 1: not the same as putting them on the ground. So
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  Speaker 1: I used to say tackling in practice was dumb. This
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  Speaker 1: year it's different. You need the tackle in practice. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt as part of football, but you still need
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  Speaker 1: to tackle. We'll see what happens. It sounds like the
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  Speaker 1: Jags have have done their share so far, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what the week ahead has in store for the
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  Speaker 1: Jags in practice. Let's come back in a moment. We'll
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  Speaker 1: hear from the defensive line. Caleb and Chasan spoke to
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  Speaker 1: the media today. We'll hear from the first round draft pick,
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  Speaker 1: and the head coach had some good things to say
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  Speaker 1: some things. Yeah, the walk too is always important, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't want you want to be important to
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  Speaker 1: And if a guy is willing to push it, um
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  Speaker 1: that's a good sign. I think it's a coach you
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  Speaker 1: always want to be. You want to have to all
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  Speaker 1: the reins back on a guy like you want to.
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  Speaker 1: You want players that you're saying no, we need you
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  Speaker 1: need to take more time, you need to rest instead
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  Speaker 1: of you know that the guy that you have to
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  Speaker 1: kick in the rear end to get back on the field.
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds like Chason is that type of guy, Um,
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  Speaker 1: And that's a good sign. It's a great sign. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. You don't want anything to pop.
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  Speaker 1: be out for a while, so you gotta be careful
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  Speaker 1: with it. But I'm with Tony. I think it's great.
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  Speaker 1: They want to is something that the great players all have.
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  Speaker 1: You got it want to be great, You want to
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  Speaker 1: be part of it. You it angers you when you
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• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of player, and that's good. What does this mean? Now?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: What is in Gockway gonna do? That's the question. I
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  Speaker 1: mean this, this kid uh isn't has a chance to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: be a really good pass writer. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen overnight. But what do they do with
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: in Gockway? You know, there's the there was the report
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: last week that ended up being erroneous. He is on
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the market. Um, they would, right am. I I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: they would do that for the right price. But again
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: it's a bad look. So I'm that's one of the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: questions that's still out there within Gockway. What do you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: do with them? Well, you you're playing he's gonna sign that,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna sign that he's gonna sign that franchise tag.
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  Speaker 1: At some point, you and I both know that he's
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  Speaker 1: not million dollars. This your eighteen million dollars. Um, that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen, and so and I don't think and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: maybe there's a market, but I don't think the market
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  Speaker 1: there for him. I mean this late in the game,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you know, is somebody to give up a one? Well
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they were, We're gonna give one, they would have done
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it already. Um, And is there a player out there
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  Speaker 1: that would move the needle enough when the jedet Wuarson
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• 21:46
  Speaker 1: think they're really fan and they continued, I think there's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be some issues that could be. You can have
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: some issues there this year. Uh. But outside of that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there a good enough player that is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: out there that team would be willing to trade pour
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: In Gockway? Um, you know, to do the teams and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: think about it, but I don't see it happening at
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: this point. I think he's on the team and because
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of that, I think he signs to deal. Here. Here's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the other thing, though, I mean, if you have a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: good interior lineman, you're probably not giving that guy up
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: there hard to find not not I'm saying pass rushers
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: are more valuable in this league. But already, look at
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Minnesota lost Michael Pierce. Uh. You know you saw Dallas
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: had Gerald McCoy go down. I mean some of the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: other big guys opted out. Uh. It's not like there's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a bevy of those guys out there. If you wanted
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to make a deal, you could get a second tier
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  Speaker 1: guy maybe and then a draft pick, but is that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: worth trading him away? And part of the things I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: think about it is the look of it. It's a
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: bad look for the organization. Unless you get wowed by
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a major offer, it's a bad look. You had Ramsey
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: grumble and moan his way out of town and you've
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: got a great offer, so you had to do it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But if you do it again, then you have okay,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: anybody in the building if you like your situation, moaning
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: grown about it and noil trade. Yet that's a bad
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: look for the organization, which is why I don't think
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: they want to do it. Yeah, at some point it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: gonna stop if if you're gonna keep guys around here
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that you've drafted and counted on to to be the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: backbone of your organization. Um, well, let's continue on defense.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: On the defensive line here, guys. Tavin Bryan a bone
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: bruise in his knee that popped up during that Saturday practice.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: He walked off with a trainer under his own power. Um,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: but it's week to week, Doug Maron said today, And
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that just adds to the list of things that had
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: happened on this defensive line already too. Top free agents
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: are not around. Other guys are hurt or have retired
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: two suspensions at the start of the season, and Carl
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Davis and Josh Morrow they're not available. So, as you said, Tony,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a group that is relatively thin. They've
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: got journey Gain in there, and he's flashed a little
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: bit the first few days of camp. What have you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: seen out of journey Gain on that tape you've washed?
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  Speaker 1: You know there's moments. I mean, he has some nice
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: place in that Saturday practice. You know, he's a big
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: explosive guy that you know, you know he still has
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it in him. The question is how many does he
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  Speaker 1: have in him per game? And so how often can
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he stay out there? Can he hold up uh playing
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and play out That would be my big question. But
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he has flashes, There's no doubt about it. UM. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: mean you look at Tavian Brian. I said it before.
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  Speaker 1: He had to be a guy that was one of
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  Speaker 1: your studs. He had to be your starting three technique
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  Speaker 1: and he had to be disruptive. UM. He had shown
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: some nice things on tape and you can see the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: explosives of strength. UM. The question is gonna go find
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the ball that's always been you know, he is he
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: maturing there it looks like he's doing better and better,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: but with a bone bruising him out. That is like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I Doug said it perfectly. It's week the week, it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: where where is the bone bruise? Uh? And what is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the severity of it? And so just to everyone listen
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to you get a bone bruise I've having before. Uh.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And if they're at a weight bearing portion of your knee,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's basically a bunch of micro fractures in your knees
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: where the bone res ends up being um and if
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you don't let it heal, it can be lingering in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a real pain and you know what um. And so
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: depending on the severity of it, where it is in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the knee, you know, we'll determine how long he's out.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's mild uh, nothing too serious and uh he
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: can be back, you know, you know a week or something. Tony,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: how did Hamilton's look on the table. He's a big body, um,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you know he's I think what you're gonna get out
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of him is he gets more comfortable. He's gonna be
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a big run stuff in you know, eat up space
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: type of guy. Um, you can still see he's a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: little bit slow reaction wise. He's not gonna get me
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: much in the pass rush right away. Uh. And so
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think you know that's who he is. I think
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he I think him and Avery basically rotate at that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: nose positions would be my guests. They could use an
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: impact right away from a guy like Hamilton's for sure.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And to define what does impact mean, because a lot
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of people when you say and saying, hey, we want
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to impact from a guy on the defensive linement, pick
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  Speaker 1: a fat sacks and big plays and you know, all
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: this different stuff. An impact for him might just being
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a rotational player that helps you solidify against the run.
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  Speaker 1: And it might not show up a bunch of the stats,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tackles and tackles for losses and sacks and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, but where you turn on the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: tape and he's doing his job and freeing up Show
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Burton and Miles Jack and we'll make plays and he's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: eating them double teams and everything else. So and I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: always say that because as people listen, you know, sometimes
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the impact isn't what you think. It's not the stat
• 26:36
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• 26:39
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• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that was really bad against the run last year, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys like Hamilton to step up if
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: they want to fix that. Yeah. Sometimes it's the snaps
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• 26:54
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  Speaker 1: asked about Will Richardson's development as a left tackle and
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  Speaker 1: been playing the position. Will's just trying to get comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: As the days go along, the comfort starts to show.
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  Speaker 1: answer there. What does Cam Robinson mean to this offensive line?
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  Speaker 1: Was the question that was the answer with Cam is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the starting left tackle, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he gets much clearer than that Tony. Um yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you watch the tape, I mean he's
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  Speaker 1: playing better. He's the better left tackle right now. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's clear today. I mean I thought it
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was a competition coming in, but Cam is uh from
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: what I've seen in the tape watching one of the ones,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and the team works, but works much better. You see
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he's worked on, he's cleaned up. He looks like he's
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in shape this year. Um, he looks like a guy
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: who getting ready to play in his contract year. What
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: he looks like to me. And that's a good thing
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: because Cam's talented and big, physical, athletic, I mean, all
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the things you want. And so I think George is right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: George Warhopp, offense line coach, is dead on that he's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be your left tackle. Um, I thought, I think,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: you know, let me bring my cynical side out. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think it's funny that he said that. The good news
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about any maintenance in
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the managing of Cam because of his need. But then
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: he had a maintenance to it. But he was one
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: of the guys who had the maintenance day today. Isn't
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it early to crown a champ though, Tony? I mean
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: we thought he would be the starter. And I wonder
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: if Maron was okay with Warhop letting that out. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: because it hadn't been it hadn't been out until he
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: said it, and it's not usually the line coach. Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I think can you imagine if Mike Maser said something
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like that when he was your line coach, the late
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Mike Maser, he would have I mean, cough would have
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: gone nuts. Well, My the difference is, here's a big difference.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: None of those guys ever talk to the media, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they weren't allowed. Assistant coaches didn't talk to the media
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and h when Tom was the coach, so whenever happened. Uh,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you know, if you want, if you watch practice, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: think it's clear that Cam's better right now. Um, So,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean your question about should Warhop has said that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: or not? I mean, who knows at this point? How
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: many more practice do you really have? Your um, if
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: your will rising to win the job, I mean, have
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a scrimmage coming up this week, Um, you're gonna have
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: some maintenance days throwing in there at some point, I'm sure,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, and then you start working out, you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: start getting ready for indie game, you know, game week
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: or only three weeks away, pet less than three weeks
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: away from you. Yeah. What what happens though? If if
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Robinson goes out and is a spinning top in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: in the scrimmage, I mean, then you got to reevaluate that,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: don't you. Um, I would think so, But you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what conversations are having, you know, in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the building. I mean right now, if you watch them,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: tape cam is clearly better. It's not really close to me. Um.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And so maybe Georgia just speaking that was he good
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: on Was he good on Saturday? In the scrimmage or
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: whatever they called it on Saturday? Was he good now? Yeah? Yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I think he had one MRS signment or
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't missing. He had a bad down bock
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: against David tab made a real nice play blew it up. Um.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say overall, yeah, I thought it
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was solid techniques better because that's one of your you
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: guys have all pens sidebout technique. Yes, being his footwork
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: is so much better in the past game, and that's
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the thing I've really been focusing on. And so um,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. And I mean, Pete,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: does it surprise you? It's his contract here, you guys talented. No,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. Is but it sounds like and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen him, but it sounds like from what
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you guys say, his body is in ten times better
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: shape than he looks great. He looks great well and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: if he had, like you said, if he has a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: good year, is gonna make a boatload of money. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: if he has a good year, the offensive line is
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good, right. I mean think about that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: if you because I think the right tackle is gonna
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: be a really good player. Uh, the center and the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: left guard or solid players, and maybe the centers above
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: solid and then whatever you get out of the right guard.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He's inconsistent, but he has his moments. That line could
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: be pretty good this year if he's good. Yeah, I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: mean that's what they're hoping for. I mean, I still
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: worry about the running game because I'm still not convinced
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that they're tight end group. I like them better from
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a pass catching I mean, I firt looks good on tape.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: You know you can tell he's a professional tight end,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like he knows how to get open and find space
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: in the secondary. He's good. Um, I mean, I don't
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the tile I for that when
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: he came to the league was one of the more
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: dynamic tight ends. But he is a good player. I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: still worry about can they hold up on the edge
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: though in the run game, Like who's going to be
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that blocking tight end that's gonna hold up on a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: six technique, a head up defensive end playing a four
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: or three so they can run the ball, because if
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you can't block the edges, you can't run the ball
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: on tight end. Here. Let's finish up on the offensive
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: line discussion here, and let's hear from Juwan Taylor, the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: right tackle. He spoke over the weekend as well about
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the physicality that this group can bring up from. We're
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: definitely putting a big emphasis on, you know, get more
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: push off the line, being more physical at the point
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of contact. So we've definitely been focusing on that every day.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Uh Close. Warhous been preaching at us every single day
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that you know, we need to get more movement off
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the line and you know, create more space for our
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: running basket, a lot of we got a lot of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: good back, so we gotta make some space for him
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and create plays with him. Well you can, you can
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: say it, but it's a matter of going out and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: do it. And as to your point, Tony, it's it's
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: more than just those five guys. It's the tight ends,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it's the fullback, all those guys involved. Pete. Sorry to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: cut you off there, but I wanted to get you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: on in there because he's a guy who's penalized a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: bunch of last year. Can he work past that? And
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: what kind of player can he be now in year two?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a dominant player. I think
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: he has a chance to be uh their best right
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: tackle to Leon seriously and and maybe even better. And
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Leon was the heck of a player, but this guy
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: has a chance to be a long term guy. Leon's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: career in Jacksonville was very condensed. Obviously, he got hurt.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: He came over as a free agent. But I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: this is this is a guy who can be there
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: draft and developed right tackle, goes to you know, two
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: or three Pro Bowls down the line. That technique, stuff,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the mistakes, that's all part of being a young player.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I think he learned a ton last year. It was
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: great to play him. You get in there and you play,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and Tony you could speak that better than I can.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I imagine you learn more in one game playing than
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you do in you know, thirty practices on the practice field. Well, yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you learn a lot. I mean
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: being in the game situations of understanding you know, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: different situations and the different type of guys you're gonna play,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and then you know and how to react and more
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: than anything, probably being comfortable out there. I mean the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: more reps you get out there in more game situations,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like there's a comfort level of like knowing you've done
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it um and that you can handle it. And after
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: his rookie year and the way he performed, I think
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: he should be confident going into this year like, hey,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I have the ability to be one of the better
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: right tackles. As you talked about Pete in the NFL, Well, yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's important for him to to keep developing. Obviously,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and we touched on the interior of this offensive line
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: to we know Lender Obviously he's been around here for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a while. He's on a second contract, Norwell had some
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: criticism at times, but um, a good solid veteran left
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: left guard in this league and then a j can
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: at the right guard spot of veteran guy who has
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: been resigned by the team. They're all back. That's you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, how did they play
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Tony and then hey, they're all back. So apparently it
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was improvement as the year went along, right or is
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: this a press start? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know about that, Jap.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense I only scored three
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: points a game for seven straight games. It was an
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: offense that couldn't run the ball consistently. It's an offense
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that they had to play, according to the head coach,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: now Gardner Mintshew, because they couldn't. They needed a quarterback
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: who could make people miss in the pocket and extend plays.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And so to say that that they're brought this group
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: back because they were happy with how they were performing,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I find that tough to believe based on what the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: head coach told us last year and what the numbers
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: told us. I think that's why I think I think
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there was some surprise that there wasn't you know, some
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: moves made, whether earlier in the draft or whatever to
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: see if they can solidify their offensive line a little bit. Um.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping, um that what we've seen that cam,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you go across the board and each guy
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: is a little bit better and improves and it becomes
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: more consistent, because I don't think it's a talent issue.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's a consistency issue. And uh. And so
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that I think that's what you know if you're George
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Warhop and I think what Joelan Taylor's told us, it
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: is like he's continually to beat the druma like, Hey,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: we need to be be more, get more movement, we need
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to be consistent. It's playing and play out. So um,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think will be interesting this
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: year year. Uh. But I would disagree with you if
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the messages, hey we really feel good and we have
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a great our offensive line was where we wanted it
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: last year, so we just brought them all back, um,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: at least not based on what the stats and what
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the head coach told us last year. Right, But they
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: could be much like you mentioned Tony in the run game,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and if they're improved in the run game and they
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: can't block the edges. It's not really going to matter
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that much. I mean that that that pot point is
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: spot on. They have to be able to block the edges.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I gotta block the days for sure. Let's come back. Well,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: we'll talk wide receivers when we returned. Um, that's the
• 41:40
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• 41:42
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• 41:47
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  Speaker 1: x l a M Radio. We promised wide receiver discussion. Well,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: d D. Westbrook's not out there, and this is the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: last couple of days Saturday and Sunday with a shoulder issue.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: He's again week the week. That's what Doug Marone said,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: this morning. Other than that, everybody else is out there
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and actually playing pretty well. They've flashed in camp, at
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: least in my opinion so far. Tony guys like Chark
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: obviously you expect um, but Conley has had his moments.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Cole had a couple of really nice reps today against
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the C J. Henderson and the rookie corner Channault. Just
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: walking across the field, you can tell he's got something special.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And and then Colin Johnson has that height to him.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: So Tony, they've they've got some pieces here, it feels
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like to me. Now the question is when the lights
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: come on, can that equate? Well, it's interesting so and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched every practice on tape, um, but you're right,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: they do flash and they're impressive. They're young, though, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: so that's the question. Outside Conny, you wonder, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of experience in that group,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of still prove it to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: me type of situation. I mean, obviously had a great
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: year last year, but it's one year. I think he's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have a great year this year as well, and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think so, No, it would be a nice piece. Um.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: You have to contemper your expectations sometimes with those rookie
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: wide receivers because it could take some time to get
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: going a little bit. But he definitely has all the tools,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know. But the interesting thing about for me about
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the passing game JP, and you've seen all the practices,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I've not seen them all. There's times where it really
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: looks good and I'm talking about Gardner, Minshew and the receivers,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and we've seen some really accurate beat balls from Gardner
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and the guys who can go get it. But then
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: there's times that this it doesn't feel like the receivers
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback are on the same page. I mean,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I go back to Saturday looking at a route over
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the middle and either a Gardner was wrong where he
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: thought Chark was gonna be or charted, you know, broke
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: out over the middle when he was supposed to curl in. UM.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And so there's been like a handful of those times
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: that You're I'm watching, I'm like hunt, it just seems
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: like a little bit off throws that might you think
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: be a little bit easier UM. And whether it's you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the route being wrong, ran at the wrong level, or
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: turn them out when you're supposed to turn in or
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. There's just been a couple of misques
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that happen in camp. But because you have limited time
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and it is a lot of young guys, Um, you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: gotta clean that stuff up. Now, how many will they keep?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think, Tony? How many will they keep? Uh?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Probably six? I think they keep six? Yeah, okay, so Chark,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Westbrook Channel, who else? UM community keep char calmly So
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I think those so not. I think uh, Westbrook will
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: be your four. Um, I think they keep um Johnson
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: College Johns. I think they keep it in Rookie and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: then probably Keenic. So you keep calling Keelan Cole, you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: because I've been reading some of this stuff and I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: haven't seen any practice, but it sound and talk to people,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: it sounds like healing Cole actually looks better. But for
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: me today, the biggest concerned he might have looked good
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: against c. J. Henderson. That's not a good thing for
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the defense. Keiling Cole beating up on c J. Henderson
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: your first round pick is not a good thing. And
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I know that's if if that's a pattern, that's a
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: bad look. Mean, yeah, it's a pattern, but let's not
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: jump to conclusions here, Mr Prisco, I'm not any day
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. If you're the first round pickus now, a
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: day like happen. If you play enough, man, you're gonna
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: get beat. I don't care who you are. I mean,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that's not keeling Colby Jalen Ramsey at times during the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: tenure here, So did you JP to other people? M Yeah,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of with you here, Tony. But
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: because Henderson the first week at camp, everybody couldn't stop
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: talking about how good he was. Yeah, yeah, we're not.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Let's not pull this out proportion. I mean fires and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: like you know, start controversy. There's no place bust already. Tony.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a believer. I'm a buster and the kid, I'm
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a believer in the kid. I think he's a good
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: cover corner. I think he's gonna be a good player.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And that's not what you just said, Pete. It's a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: little You need to figure out what I was reading
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: today that he got beat a bunch. That's that's a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: concern he did. Where did you read it? Twitter? On
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: on the websites and Twitter. Yeah, so there's a there's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of videos beat all the time, though it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit of exaggeration. A couple of one on
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: one kind of red zone drills back to back in fact,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: where then in the second JP JP, you were there.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: If you had the grade C. J. Henderson's day, give
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: me a grade um C minus. That's not good, but
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it's one day, okay, okay, j P. If you had
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: the great C. J. Henderson over this entire camp, which
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: is great B plus. Okay, that's good, you're there. I'm
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: not so I'd like to hear that. Yeah. I think
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: he's been fine so far and is one day an illness?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: So cut cut him some slack peep. Well, look, I said,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: if it's a pattern, it's a problem, it's not, then good.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: think that's a position to worry about on that side.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I think Herndon's a feisty little player. I think their
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: corners will be better than people think they are. I'll
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't think there's an elite
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: guy there, but I think they'll be better than people
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: think they are. And if you want to say, where
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: is your concern on the defense, it's not the secondary
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: per se. I think because I actually think the safety
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: are going I think, you know, Harrison is gonna have
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: a better year. I think he'll get better. I mean,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: he has talent um, and so I think the safety
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: will be will be okay as well. I'm with Pete.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I think the linebacker level, I'm hoping that Myles jacket
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: will be a better situation for him. I think show
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: birch An upgraded at Mike after Jared Allen upfront. Boy,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of questions. I agree, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: um a lot of questions. That clock's running low on
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: time to answer those questions. Not not a lot of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: time left in training camp here in who knows, there's
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of points this year, Fellas better score a
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: lot of points this year, Fellas. But do you think
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  Speaker 1: this office is set to score a lot of points?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what what he's gonna plan to do
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  Speaker 1: with them. But you know, sometimes, Tony, you have to
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  Speaker 1: play to your defense and to me, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you agree with me. You look at this on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be a defense that
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  Speaker 1: struggles a little bit or a lot. And if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, go try and score a lot of points.
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  Speaker 1: You know, don't play trying to miss my point. You're
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  Speaker 1: missing my point. Do you think they tried to only
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: score an average of three points a game? Style? Are they?
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Are they explosive enough to score a bunch of points?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: That's my question. I don't know answer that question because right, so,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: but again, you're gonna have to score more points than
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm not saying they didn't want
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to score points. That's a stupid thing to say. But
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta play a little looser, a little free, or
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: let them go if because that defense is going to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: be a liability. Would you not agree with me that
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the defense will be more of a liability than the offense. Yes,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: But I I hate with a passion when you start
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: making comments they need to play a little more free
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and open, like what does that mean? Because you say
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: things that I don't think you can describe what that
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: actually means. It made you throwing early downs more. I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: think they did that earlier later in the year. But
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: when mit, you went back in there trying, but they
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: were also playing with a kid. They were playing with
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the kids starting a quarterback last year. Now now you
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: have a kid that's been at least been in this
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: He's not been a system, but he's been with the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: team that they know what. He's more familiar with his receivers,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a comfortable quarterback, and he's what you think he is
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the let him throw it early downs. I agreed, But
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to say he's like he's not in the system, he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: comfortable with. It's a brand new offensive coorting. They have
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: a brand new tight end, you know. I mean, there's
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: some p It's just I'm hoping you're right. I'm just
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's a wait and see for me. I don't know.
• 54:43
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• 54:46
  Speaker 1: some of the pieces they put together on that side
• 54:48
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• 54:50
  Speaker 1: love him, and I love the right tackle and I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: think Cam the way he's looked, it's awesome. All great things.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions too. Well, let's put it
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the this way. If the offense isn't prolific enough to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: score many more points this year than it did a
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: year ago, they will be drafting Trevor Lawrence. How about that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Just put it out there. Have you done? Your done?
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: This record for all the teams yet. No. And I
• 55:22
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• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Because we're not cutting the team. We haven't seen enough.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: We haven't done the scrimmage yet. Yeah, you're three weeks.
• 55:37
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• 55:40
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• 55:43
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• 55:47
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• 55:49
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• 55:53
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  Speaker 1: it might look great in the press and everything. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've had help from everyone I rely on,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us, your
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• 1:01:06
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of experience on the staff. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a point there, and Doug Barone is open to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: hearing different different ideas on different topics, and and that's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: what that Tony, that's that's huge. Obviously you don't know everything,
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  Speaker 1: even if you're the head coach. No, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think it's it's the smart thing to do. I mean,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: you have a staff for a reason. Guys have different respectives,
• 1:01:33
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  Speaker 1: in different ways and have led to success. So you're
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: always evolved, You're always trying to get better. I mean
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the saying that was true when I played, you're either
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: getting better or you're getting worse. You're never saying the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: same applies the coaches and players of life. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think Doug has the right mentality and he's always
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: trying to get better and and learn and how can
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  Speaker 1: be challenged. And and you've heard stories, and Tony, you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: know you've known guys and coaches and personnel people who
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to be challenged. I know a scout that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: got whacked by a team because he challenged the general
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: manager in a meeting and he didn't want to hear it.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And you can't have that. I mean, you don't know everything,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and as a coach you should open your mind, and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: as a personnel guy, you should open your mind. I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: want people to challenge me if I like a player,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: uh As I say, I'm a scout or a personnel
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  Speaker 1: director and I like a player, I want my scouts
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: to tell me why I should go back and watch
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: him again. It's the same thing with coaching. If I'm
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a coach and I have an offensive player system that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I like, I might want my coordinator, my receiver, coach
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: to come over to me and say, hey, why don't
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: we do this and this will work? We should try this.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And I think a coach with an open mind is
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: a good thing. A coach with a closed mind is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a dangerous thing. Yeah, I mean I think that could
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: go through any anything in life. For me. If you
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: if you have the did you know everything, you're in trouble.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I worry about you, Pe
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: because you think you know everything, and it's a big
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: it's a big flaw character flaw that you have that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: it concerns me. I mean, you should probably listen to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the things you say about other people and try to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: limit yourself no, Tony. What I was gonna say is,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I think one thing that we've done on this show
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: is you've evolved. When we first started, you were hardheaded,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: you yell at fans, you'd yell at me. And now
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: we've toned you down a little bit, so you've opened
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: your mind. You're not a closed minded lug like you
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: used to be. I don't think I ever yelled at
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever yelled at fans. I think
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit. Yes you have, Yes you did,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Yes you did. Revisionist history. Send out, Send out a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Twitter polls as Tony Vaselli yelled at fans on this show,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: yes or no. Never, maybe like a passionate conversation, but
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: never yelled. Yeah, um yeah he yelled. Hey. Back to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the coaching dynamic here, Pete. Obviously Jay Gruden former head
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: coach in Washington in that division, Ben McAdoo, is that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: so not too long for the New York Football Giants.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: They're both now on staff here. Um, what about that relationship?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: And and obviously the past is the past and they're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: here to to get this Jaguars team better. But it's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: gotta be an interesting dynamic in that room. Well, it's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: great to have guys who've experienced it from the top,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and and granted neither one of them had great success
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: experiencing it from the top. But maybe sometimes you're just
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: a position coach or you're just an offensive coordinator. That's okay,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: that's fine. And Jay Gruden was a good offensive coordinator
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: before he was a head coach, and I think that's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: a good thing for Gardner Minshew. It's a good thing
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: for Doug Barone. He has a guy or guys on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: his staff that who have been head coaches and he
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: can lean on them a little bit in certain situations.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I like the dynamic of the staff. I'm curious to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: see Minshew in the offense when the thing gets cranked up.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I think it fits what he does getting the ball out,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: but again, we don't know until you actually play real games.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good staff. I'm a big believer
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: in Keenam Cardell. I've known him for a long time.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big places in this league
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: as a coach. I think he's gonna be a coordinator
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: soon enough, and then and then maybe a head coach.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: So I like the staff, particularly on offense and I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: think defensively, they have some good coaches, so it's a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: good staff. Now the question becomes, if you don't win,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: what happens to that staff? They're probably all gonna be
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: looking for jobs. That's the scary thing. Now though they
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: have a chance to show that they belong and should
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: stay longer. What do I wonder what they have you bring?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm gonna do something that Pete does
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: that I hate, like jump like eight steps ahead of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. But you brought it up.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: How many games do they need to win? I mean,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: because that's a I mean there's so many like variables
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: out there and so many you know, influences that this
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: staff had nothing to do with them. You know, COVID
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and no off season and everything by you know video,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: and it makes it really hard in a young team.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: On top of it, what do they have to do?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: What success? What do you think success? You know, forget
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: about whether they get fired or not. I don't want
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: to talk about that. What is what would be successful
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: in your mind for this team this year? I'm not
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: jumping ahead. I want to stay right here and focus
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: on the now. I never jump ahead. I never pushed forward,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: stay right here. But elly, I'm not gonna do it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I just want to stay right here and talk about
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the now, not looking to the feature. Okay, that's you,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: that's your that's you. By the way, No, what success? Five? Five,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: five would be success? In my mind, six would be outstanding.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Six six, six wins. So you're saying five would be success.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: That's one lesson they won last year, Pete six, you're
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: telling me that it's six, well six with this team
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: at six, I said it last year, last week, the rebuilding, reloading.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: So six, what do you think successful? Hold on, I'm
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: not I'll tell you in the second I'm asking you.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: You're telling the fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars were listening
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: to our our show and expect expertise analysis from you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: that if they win six games, the fan base should
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: be happy and said we're on the right track as
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: a football organization. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: that if they win six games, if they win, you,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think the winning. I think they're gonna push.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: They're gonna push to win six games. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: That's if the fans out there are listening my expertise,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: this team is well, that's what I'm telling you. I'm
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: not asking you that. I'm saying, what would it be
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: deemed as successful for this coaching staff at the end
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: of the year. If they did this, this, and this,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: that's successful, Like they did a good job and they
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: should have their jobs back in the following year. Like
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: what success they have to if they keep their jobs,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win eight or nine games. So
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: you're saying success is eight or nine games in because
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: a second ago, I'm trying to figure out what it is.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: No eight or nine games like success to me, Pete, Well,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: it sounds like success with what they have there. That's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: that would be a successful season. You know what real
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: success would be going over in sixteen and getting Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That's real success. I mean, JP, I don't know where
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to go with this because I've heard like fifteen different
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: numbers thrown out there, um and so I'm a little
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: bit confused right now. I think six, he's an eight,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: he's a zero zero with the roster that they have.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Success is five or six wins for the coaching staff
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to stay successes eight or nine wins, Like you're you're
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: moving the ball over the chess board right now. So
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: let me let me be very clear to our fans
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: and the people listen to jp UM. I think, to deem,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: this is a successful year for Don Morone and his
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: coaching staff. They need to improve by at least two games,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and they won six last year. They need to win
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: eight games this year to say, you know what, we're
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Um, we've built this, we're
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: starting to build that. We have a foundation there for
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: the future, and so let's get we need to get
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: up to at least eight games. I think that would
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: be success. We agree, We agree. What do you think
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: would be a successful season? That's what I just said.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: So you think they don't get eight wins, that's not
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a successful season. That that again, if they don't get
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: eight wins, it's not a successful seasons. What's your a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: in two forget Doug Barrowne and his coaches that I'm
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: talking about, Tony BASSELLI, what is a successful season for
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars as as an organization. Yes, you have
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to you have to show progress. And I think if
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: you win six games or less, you're not showing progress. Now,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the only caveat to that that I'll put out there
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: is if you if you win five games, but Gardner
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Minshew and you just have your defense because it's decimated
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: by injuries and everything else and opting out and you
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: can't stop anyone to save your life. But you start
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: to see an offense that is productive and Gardner Minshew's,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: you know, four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and twelve picks.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: That success even if you win five or six games.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: So you have to see progress. All I was saying,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: that's why I think it's it's not just wins and losses.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: So if you're asking me wins and losses, it is
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: eight wins, so you're showing improvement there. Then I would
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: say improvement from the young quarterback and offensively that you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: were showing that you can score points in you're a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: productive unit, which they were not last year. That would
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: also be a metric of success for me looking at it.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And so that you know, wins obviously, this is what
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: you're we're all graded on as in the NFL's wins
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and losses. And then secondly, it's the production and improvement
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: of your quarterback in your offense um from a from
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: what you do on the field. Those are the two
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: things I think I would be looking at. Let's just
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: say this. I'll throw this out there, Gardner Minshew throws
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: for dred yards, thirty four touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. The
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: offense is explosive and they still go for a twelve
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: successful season or not? Yeah, I would say yes, because
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: that means you just had the worst defense. Now, I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: think it would be changes. There can be changes with
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: the coaches staff, but with the head coach, Andy, I mean,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: are you gonna get rid of your offensive coordinator that
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: just came in and did that? Got rid of the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: head coach? You would oh? I mean yeah. I mean
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: now we're going down the path of people losing jobs
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: and not losing That was my point of this conversation.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: The point was what would be successful this year? And
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I think the metric that everyone's measured by in the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: NFL wins and losses, and so you have to start there.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: And so if it's not better than last year, then
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: it's not successful. We agree, Tony, We agree for those guys, Yes,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: we do success for the coach. You you don't understand me.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: For success for the coach and staff. It's eight or nine.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: My uh, the definition of success is five or six
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: because I don't think they're very good. I think they're
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be feisting, staying games and maybe score some points,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: So if I think they're gonna win three or four games,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: if they get the six, in my mind, that success.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: But not as an organization, that's none. Like your best argument. No,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: as an organization they got I'm with you, they have
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: to show progress, Like I like you actually would have
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: a decent argument if you to start and saying, you
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: know what successful this organization is is going own sixteen
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: to getting Trevor Lawrences your quarterback, because now you have
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: a quarterback for the next ten years. Like if you
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: have said that now, I would have argued with you,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I don't consider that success. I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: don't think you go to a season like that. But
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: at least that would of made sense. You're like going
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: from you would argue with me, no matter what nine
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: to zero, no matter what you can't know you are not.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: There's different there's different definitions of success. No, the coaching
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: staff success is different than my determination and what's successful,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: and it should be different than what your determination is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to be successful. You like you said if you're talking
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: about yes, you do. You just said it. If they
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: if they had explosive offensive minshoot, just showed a bunch
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of progress, and they would five and eleven or six
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: and ten, you would say that was a success correct
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: over offensively. Yeah, because you have a quarterback. Now like
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: you check the box. You have your quarterback. But is
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: that a success? Yes or no? Success? Definition of success
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: yes or no? For the organization? Yes, having quarterbacks at
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: that position. Yes, I rest my case, I rest my defense.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I rest my case. That wasn't the question. A few
• 1:14:20
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• 1:14:23
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• 1:14:28
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• 1:14:31
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• 1:14:35
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• 1:14:38
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• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant has a bone bruise in his knee. D D.
• 1:14:44
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• 1:14:47
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• 1:14:51
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• 1:14:54
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• 1:14:57
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• 1:15:01
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• 1:15:04
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• 1:19:01
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• 1:19:04
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  Speaker 1: It's our first conversation with macadoo and Peter. I found
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: it interesting. I guess I hadn't really realized he's been
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: out of football the last couple of years since he
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: got fired by the Giants. He does, he's been living
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: down south of here in Florida, and he's moved up
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit closer, he said, but give him time
• 1:20:01
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  Speaker 1: football coach. He said at the end of his press
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  Speaker 1: to develop and get better for this organization. You know,
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  Speaker 1: what did you make of McAdoo when he was the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants, And how does something like
• 1:20:21
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• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: great head coach, let's be honest about it, and the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: proof is in the pudding. But he's had success at
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: times in his career running offenses and being part of
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: good offenses. So I think it's a good hire for
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's you know, a former head coach, been
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: around good offenses in his career, understands the passing game,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: understands the offense. Uh And I think it's good for
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Again, when you have two former head coaches,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: one of the offensive coordinator, one of the quarterbacks coach,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And so it'll be interesting to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: see what happens this This could be the type of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: year if Minshew has a year like Tony's talking about,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: possibly havn't. If he has that kind of year, that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: can only enhance mcadoo's credibility around the league. Maybe he
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: gets an offensive coordinator job, and then who knows. Uh So.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: But again I said something earlier that I still believe.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes guys are just position coaches or coordinators. Maybe Ben
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: mcadoo's just a good position coach or just an offensive coordinator.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Not everybody's a head coach, Not everybody's cut out to
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: be a head coach. Well, I mean, I agree with you.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: But you know the interesting thing about Ben McAdoo, if
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, his first year the Giants, he won
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: eleven games. Did you take the team to the playoffs
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in sixteen when he was that coach beat Yeah, but
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: then you go off a cliff Tony. Listen all I'm saying,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. He was there for two years, if I'm
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: not mistaken, one eleven games year one, and then he
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: had off a cliff, Yes, and they had the second
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: worst record in the NFL. Um it was. It's just
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: interesting how quickly that disintegrated underneath him in New York
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: after having a good year. Unless I'm getting my years wrong,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And he was also the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for kauf On that you know, for two
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: years too. I mean, look, the guy's the guy Green Bay.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: He's good. You know, he was involved with the quarterback
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: he was the quarterbacks coach there. He's been around good offenses.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: And he's not an old guy. And this is a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: young guy relatively speaking. He's forty three years old. I mean,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: why would he be out of coaching for two years?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Um? But again maybe he just you know,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: wanted the regroup and spend time with the family. Like
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: you said, this is a chance for him to show
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: people that he can still do it and get another opportunity,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: maybe to be an offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's just interesting.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: You see a guy who wins the eleven games and
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: now he won three the next year, and so you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: wonder if there was more issues in the building as
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: far as the leadership style the head coach Um. But
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: he obviously knows how to coach with Paul, He's had
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: success and I think you know he's a good asset
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: and a good good guy to having the building conduct borrow,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't it too? Was No? Three? Now I'm looking at it?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Beat that? Ye? Right? Well then they used to call
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: him macadone, didn't they. Yeah, that's you're you're you're the
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: national guy. You could tell us what they set up
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: in New York. We're not sure. Let's just stay on
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, we've we've talked to Ben show
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: you we know he's the starting quarterback here. But today
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: especially we got to see the rest of them, Glenn
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: and Dobbs Luten with only ones on the field taking
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: reps today, Tony, from the tape that you've seen, what
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: is the quarterback room opening day? I would only keep
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I would keep too. I would keep glennon
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: and Minshew and I put Luten on the practice squad
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: because I think you have sixteen guys in the practice
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: squad and they're gonna have some freedom I think based
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: on you know, this COVID environment of how they manage
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: that up and down. So I put Luton as the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: third UM. I wouldn't keep him active. I put him again,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: like I said in the past, squad, and I don't
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: think that I don't think there's a place for probably
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: on this roster for Josh Dobbs. I've heard Luton's look
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: pretty good and throws the ball very well. Is that true? Yeah,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: you can spin it, um, but I think he was
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: thinking you want you saw that at Oregon State he
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: could spin it. But I've heard he's looked pretty good
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: at times in this camp throwing the football. And that's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: so again, it's not like he's gonna be exposed playing
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: in a preseason game. So if he didn't get drafted,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: until he got drafted, nobody, nobody's gonna know what he's
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: doing on the practice field. So Tony's correct, You probably
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: put him on the practice squad and then if something happens,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: you activate him. Easier to do. Yeah, So I think
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: that's what it looks like, alright, guys, let's get a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: couple of social questions in Tony your faceure, here we
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: go week, got a couple, got a couple this week? Um,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: you know we need we need more of a response
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: is what we need to be quite honest with you.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: You know what we need. We need the yelling Bassellly.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: We need yelling BASSELLI back because he used to get
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: more questions when he was a yeller and they'd irritate him.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: So let next week, let's say if you can send
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: in a question that irritates Tony, he's gonna yell like
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: old times and get get us back into the spirit
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: of things. Well, now what but I will make sure
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I tweeted out the question next week on Monday morning
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: like I did last year. And that's you know, obviously
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: your followers to you as the army, and I'll make
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: sure I send out the questions. We gets a good
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: question because Pete don't work so well last week. To
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: let you, I didn't say I didn't send anything last week.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Number one. I did, and I mean JP did and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: you retweeted it. So what's the difference of you sending
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: it out? Because when I said I think your followers
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Pete are more interactive than Tony's followers, so that makes sense,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: you know, and it worked out on That's why. That's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: why he's gotta start yelling again, because then he'll get
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: more interactive with the followers. You get more interaction, he'll
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: be much better. So start yelling next week or tonight.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: If somebody irritates it, it's like, let's go back to
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: where we used to be used to screaming. Yell at
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: the fans. You hear it. I started screaming at you.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: If that makes you feel better, okay, we'll take it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: We gotta get something, Matie, you better? What do you mean?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm carrying the show you with your stupid takes.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: It don't even make sense bouncing all over the place
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: like you, you know, who knows what you've been doing.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I want an argument as usual, But that's a whole
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: another story. Social question number one gentleman at stew Underscool
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Winners ask what side of the ball do you think
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: his strongest for THISGS team as of today and will
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: that be true by the end of the season. No,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I think defense always starts. It looks better early in camp,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: but I think you know, probably for the most part.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: You watch the elemen on eleven H drills, you know
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: probably lean slightly to the defense. But I think the
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: offense will be the better unit throughout the year. I mean,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I think you know they're gonna have to carry I
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is a team that can win
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: with defense. I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible. I
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: think they probably end up middle of the road somewhere.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will be the side of the ball,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: which we've been counting on for years based on the
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: seventeen season, that really has to step up. I think offensively, um,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: there'll be a better unit, and I think they're gonna
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: have to be if they want to love football games.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's all offense. I think
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: the offense will be better. Here's the question, though, Let's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: just say the guys didn't opt out and the guys
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. How much better would they have been?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a legitimate question? I mean, alb I think
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: and Gunter there. Yeah, I think they helped. They're better
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: against the run, right, you would think that, But how
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: much better are they They're still there's still gonna be
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: a struggling defense at least I think so. Well. I think,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, those big bodies make a difference, pet in
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the run game. I think that. I mean, what is
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: a guy who's proving he can play the run. He's
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: a big body gunter. I think had a chance to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: really Uh if you look at what he did in
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Arizona as a young player, Um, he was not a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: name a bunch of people knew, or it's not highly up.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: But I think he was an up and coming guy
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: that was going in the right direction. So I do
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: think the death would have helped at the very least.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would have made him, you know,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: a top five defense. But I worry about them stopping
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the run this year. I mean they couldn't last year. Um,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: and I worry about it this year. Well, you know,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: it makes sense to worry about it because it's gonna
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: be a problem. But again, how much better would it
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: have been without Woods and got there? That you'd say
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: it would have been better? But how much Okay, you
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: want me to give much yard per carry? Okay, I
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna give up four point three yards per carrying.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I think they'd given three nine those two were there.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: How about that? Does that help you? What about Snacks Harrison?
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: What about him? I mean he's out there, but what
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: about him? He didn't want to play in Detroit. He
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: didn't retired basically or get cut. No, he's out there. Yeah,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: they let him go. He wants to play. I mean,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: would he be somebody could bring in and help the
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: run game? I think he could. I mean, once upon
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: a time you can argue that he was one of
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: the best interior defensive linem to stop in the run.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: And he's not. I mean, he's not an old I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: don't think he's an old He's not an old guy
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: anymore or anything either. What is he thirty one? He
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: could still be going there and help. But I don't
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: know what kind of shape he's in. I don't know
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: what the issue was in Detroit, where they never been
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: in great shape. No matter, is he a bad locker
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: room guy? Was he causing trouble? I mean, I mean,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, why it's not only
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Detroit with his great team, Why are they let him go?
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I mean there's always a reason guys get let go
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: to Pete. You know this, I mean, and I'm sure
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, Dave calledwell and Doug and that group have
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: done their homework and and know what's out there and
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: they investigate it. We haven't, so I'm not going to
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: speculate what the reason was, but there's um based on
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: the defensive line depth right now. My guess is they've
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: looked at it and made the determination at this time.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: He doesn't help him as a player. As a player
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: thirty one years old, he would help him. Now, you're right,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: we don't know if he's a problem in the locker room.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that though, but again I'm not and
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: he and he's in shape, he could help them. Let's
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: get one more social question, and this is from J McMahon. Underscore,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: what is this team ceiling in terms of wins? Well,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: let me I'll start with us. Every team's ceiling is
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: sixteen wins. In the right team games, they could win sixteen, right,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: thank you? We just I guess we touched on this earlier.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: But what do you think, Pete five or six? That's
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: that's what I think. If if they get more than that,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: kudos to the coach and staff and Gardner Minshi will
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: be their long term quarterback. That that's exactly what I
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: think because I don't see it again. I think they're
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be in tough in some games. I just don't
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna win a lot of games. But if
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: they get to eight wins, Gardner Minshew will have established
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: himself as the guy for the long term. That's how
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: well Hill have to play to get the eight names.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: So is it eight or six? Just give me one number.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I just want one, like five numbers. I think they're
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: winning six, five or six. That's a that's two or
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: six from one number? What number? Five? Okay? Five? Okay? Um?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: I think their ceiling is ten games? Is their ceiling? Wow?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: I mean the ceiling. I mean that's I mean, he
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: goes away. Gardner plays great, you know, Josh Allen is
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: you know, defensive m v P C. J Henderson is
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: a lockdown corner that you draft him to be. Miles
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Jack makes the transition to Will Leonard Fordette is running
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: like in you know, playing like it's his last uh
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: in the last yearvice contract camera ABMs doing the same thing. Yeah.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: I think ten wins, I mean that's Gardner Minshew takes
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: a step up over world he was last year, and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: it is proven to be your franchise quarterback. D J.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Charcott was in the one year Hit Wonder, which I
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be, and he shows that he
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: could be a true number one. I mean those things happen. Yeah,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I think they can win ten games, maybe eleven, but
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say ten is my ceiling? Getta lock it. I
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: didn't say that's what they're gonna win. I said, it's
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: the ceiling. How do you think they're gonna win? It
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: is the first let's get that out there. On Twitter,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli says Jaguars to win eleven games. I said
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: my ceilings. Now I didn't know. The question is what's
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: their ceiling? Like, what's the most wins you can see
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: them happen? How many? How many do you think they're
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: going to win? How many you think they're going I
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: think it's right there in the middle, seven, eight, somewhere
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: in there. Then you're stuffing around wild card one one
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: one number, not seven or right? What's your one number? Baby? Hey? Hey, okay?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: And how many do you think they're going to win?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Do you guys dance around that question? How do I do?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: It's around it? How many do you think they're going
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: to win? How many do you think that if I
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: if I went through the schedules that a game by
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: game analysis, I think they're gonna win eleven. Yeah, that's
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: one thing we still have to do as well. We
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: got Pete, we got to cut the team and we
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: have to go. Please put that out nationally. Nobody will
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: hire you wherever to do a Westwood one games to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: it's tongue of cheek. I said the ceiling was ten,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: and then they're gonna win eleven? What do I think? Um,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it was a joke. It was a joke. Um, I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna win. I think they win seven games. Okay,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I think they went seven. We'll go around the but
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: is that successful? That's a big question. What about around
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• 1:39:03
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• 1:39:09
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  Speaker 1: j P Shatdrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Bosellia, and I would
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: say it's a little different feel in that cornerback room
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: from the past couple of years around here. There's no
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, there's no a J boy A, and uh,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: it's not loud in that room as of yet. You
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: heard Trey there say maybe when when the lights come on,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: that will change a little bit. But just walking through
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: the door, the environment is much different Pete than it
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: has been in the past around here at cornerback. Well, yeah,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it used to be a position of strength
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: and now it's a position of hope. I mean, you
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: hope Henderson can turn into being a number one corner
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: You hope Herndon continues to get better. If they do,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: then then I think they have a chance to be
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: a good group. Heard it proved last year. He could
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: be a nice fight the you know, number two corner
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: and he needs to continue to get better. And I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: think if Henderson can become a number one corner, it
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: can become a good group again. But you know, it's
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: a it's a position of hope. Now whereas when you
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: had Boy and Ramsey, Um, you know, it was a
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: position of strength. It's not that anymore. And so I
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: think that you know, you have to expect some growing
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: pains along the way for both those guys. Yeah, I
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: mean they're young players. I mean that's what I mean,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: that's what happens to young players. I think that's where
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: you know, if you talk, wasn't it Bill Parcels And
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to attribute to the wrong legendary coach
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: coach that says it's you know, it's it's hard to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: win with rookies. I mean, I mean, historically it is
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: hard to count on and win with rookie Not that
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: it can't happen, but going into the season, you have
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: to expect growing pain and guys to make mistakes. They're
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: learning it. I don't care how good they are, especially
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: when they're surrounded with a lot of other good players,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: I mean young players. Um, it's one thing if you
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: have a rookie at position surrounded by a lot of
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: veterans and you can cover it up. I mean, I'll
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: give me a perfect example. In nine, we had a
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: very good team for Nando Bryant was a rookie starting
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: at corner for that team, but he was surrounded by
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Carnel Lake, Um, you know, Aaron Beasley. I mean, you
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: had a number of veteran guys on that defense that
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: were around him, and so it made the transition easier.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: You look at c. J. Henderson, He's gonna be the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: opposite corner. Trey Herndon is really a second year starter,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: still a young guy. Now. D J. Hayden helps a lot.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy who's been around the block and
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: is a very good nickel. You look at the to safeties,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: both young players, both full time starters last year. Um,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: And so that's where you start. You know, I think
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ebbs and flows. I think c. J.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Henderson will be an outstanding player. You know. I think
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: he has the right makeup. I think he's a competitive
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: as heck. You have to be that at that corner position. Um,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: But I think it's natural. I think peach. Right, Um,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be natural to expect some growing pains, all right, fellas,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: last week we we promised as we are all at
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: our home sets. Pete Hass behind him on his set.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: If you're watching on at Jaguars, I'm at home with
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: a bookshelf and things behind me. Tony, where are you
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: this week? Where a padded room somewhere? That's what it
• 1:42:21
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• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: The last week, you guys. The point is you guys.
• 1:42:34
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• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: on one of these books behind me. And how do
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: you guys want to do this this week? But I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: think Tony's right, though J p JP. I think Tony's right.
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  Speaker 1: If the book is on the shelf behind you, you
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: should have read it already. You just read it. Not
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: necessarily true, that's not necessarily true. There are books that
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: you just haven't gotten to yet. All right around. Go
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: to the second level of your bookshelf. I'm gonna tell
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: you which book to pick. Okay, Okay, you're gonna go.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the one right in the middle.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: It's green with big white lettering. Yep, that one right there.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: It's probably a money was eight football great writing about
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: the national sport right up, Pete Prisco's alley. It's a
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: number of different articles over the years. That's not that's
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: like little bits and Pete. That's not a book. That's
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: like all I'm telling you exactly what it is you
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  Speaker 1: want to report in the book or not, Pete. It's
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: short stories or newspaper stories. Great writing about the support
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: of football over the years. Newspaper articles. You read the
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: cover and let you just spit off your mouth, your chin.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's a terrible that's not a that's like
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: a put together book of all stories. That's not a book.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Shelf forget that one. That's like CagA, just grab one,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: just grab the one to the far right, no matter
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: what it is. Second shelf right, that shelf far right,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: whatever that is, pull it out. Baseball in Birmingham. It's
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: a photo book. In fact, mainly one book on there
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: that he can read. Well, JP, you put one of
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: all short stories and articles and one's a picture book.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Do you have a book on there that you actually
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  Speaker 1: can read from cover? Here's one. I got one here,
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  Speaker 1: This is one I got in college. It's by Red Barber.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: It's called the Broadcasters, a great baseball broadcaster of the Red's,
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  Speaker 1: most notably the Dodgers, and he finished with the Yankees.
• 1:44:46
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• 1:44:49
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• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: through his career um starting at the University of Florida
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: and then getting to the big leagues in Cincinnati, move
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: up to the Dodgers. He has some great articles, are
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: has some great chapters in here about some of the
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: big years and moments in Dodgers history, including that seven
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: season where he was the lead broadcaster and Jackie Robinson's
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: first year they went to the World Series and lost
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: to the Yankees in just an epic World Series and
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: forty seven and then his move across the river to
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: to the Yankees that only lasted a few years though
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: working with Mel Allen. Great book about his career, and
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: it goes into a lot of the detail of broadcasting
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: and the xes and os, the nuts and bolts of
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: baseball broadcast. Yes, you could be making that up because
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: I never read the book, and I don't even know
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: who you're talking about. Tell me, what are you asking
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: me to do that I just gave you. I trust you.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: My question is this, and then we can end this
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: terrible idea of a segment that I came up with. Um,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: what is the one what's the number one takeaway from
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: that book that you learned reading about Red Barber? I
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: think his name was Yeah, what was his name? Tony? Um?
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: You know when I first got the book was in college.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: So you're trying to learn how to do number one takeaway?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: I don't mean just it's very simple. So like, what's like,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: you know what? I read this book and I learned
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: this about being a broadcast. I learned the preparation it takes.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: You can't just show up in the in the box,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: you know. It's the other question is is there anything
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: on that shelf that's not a sports book? I've got
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: World War two on the air, which is um, okay again,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: it's a radio report, broadcasting, it's a broadcasting book, radio book.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: They're all broadcast radio or sports. So basically, have we
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: met Pete that you live in a cocoon? Expand expand
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: your rising. We're gonna end this segment. That's a terrible
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: idea of a segment, Tony, I must say one was
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: a picture book, one was a short story book, and
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: the other one with Red Barber. If we had coloring books,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Tony would be interested. Um, did you have any idea
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: who that was? Yeah, yeah, of course. I might have
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  Speaker 1: we have, is not getting to know the guys at all,
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  Speaker 1: What about games? Are you gonna be doing games from
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the studio? I think we're still discussing that j JP
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  Speaker 1: kind of how we're gonna handle that. I don't think
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: the final decision has been made, um, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole another things that we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with. It's just weird. It's weird. It's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like i'd be out for thirty days now
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  Speaker 1: and I'm nowhere and I can't I can't go talk
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  Speaker 1: to guys, can't go see new guys, can't go. So
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: I text guys and say say, Okay, this guy's playing well,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's playing well. It's not the same. You're right,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: you can't get the no, guys, it's it's it's different,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But look, as long as
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  Speaker 1: all be happy for it. Yeah, we'll be happy. But
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: it's still it's still one of the things that I
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: miss because I love I mean coming football for me, um,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: and like doing when the Thursday nights for Westwood one.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just you know, it's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: paid to play talk about football. That's nice, don't get
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  Speaker 1: me wrong, Um, But part of the joy of the
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  Speaker 1: be being a part of the Januars organization and doing
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  Speaker 1: games like that, and then also for West One is
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  Speaker 1: being around the game and being around the guys and
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  Speaker 1: on the field before end and you know, getting nuggets
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  Speaker 1: and talking to him and learning and sharing my experiences
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: with them. And none of that's gonna happen this year, um,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: because even if we are traveling, I mean, because of
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: the tiered approach and how they have the different tiers
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: for the players, not like we're gonna be allowed on
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  Speaker 1: the field to go talk to him before the game. Um,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: I'll miss that, And that's one of the big disappointment
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: disappointments for me in this COVID world we live in
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: right now. You won't miss the cold of Kansas City
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: the last time we were on the field, but I'll
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: miss it. That was great. I mean that like that's experience,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: and I mean that's but but Pete, you're right, like
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: you couldn't You couldn't have written as well about that
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: game without being there because you experienced the cold and
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  Speaker 1: you understood it and like you felt what was going
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  Speaker 1: on and post game you felt the energy of the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs fans were going to the super Bowl for the
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  Speaker 1: first time in fifty years. I mean, like that down
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  Speaker 1: on the field after the game with our microphone, getting
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  Speaker 1: guy camera, getting guys on camera, right after. You're right,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: you can't experience it if unless you're not there. Yeah,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: and that we would. Was it that week where you
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: were in the parking lot pregame chattering with snow blowing
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  Speaker 1: or was that a different week that was the week before?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Actually that was the week before. Yeah, there was no
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: snow that week. Remember, Tony was just cold. It was
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: bitter cold. That was. That was as cold as the
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: Packers Giants playoff game for me, and then the playoff
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: game in New England when the Titans played there, and
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: then your playoff game in New England that one year
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: was pretty cold too. Yeah. Let's touch on a few nuggets.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Let's touch on a few nuggets around the National Football League.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: Safety Earl Thomas released by the Ravens and an announcement saying, quote,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: we've terminated safety Earld Thomas's contract for personal conduct that
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: has adversely affect did the Baltimore Ravens end quote he
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: was going to make a fully guaranteed ten million dollars
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: salary even without this year's salary. If they can get
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: that money, it'll leave him with twenty two million dollars
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: for one year of service. Pete, Well, there was a
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: fight in practice, he missed a couple of assignments, and
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: and Chuck Clark was a young safety, was played really
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: well for him last year, got into it with him.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: But it was more than that. It was late for meetings.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: He I heard, he was missed a walk through, wasn't
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: as focused as he should have been, and he hasn't
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: been a great teammate. And and the players, the leadership
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: counsel said, look, we sign with Chuck, get him out
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: of here, and they did. I'm okay with that. By
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: the way, you don't see people knocking down the door
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: to go sign him, do you. Well. I read a
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: report today Pete that he missed a meeting because he
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: said he had to get his car washed right, and
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: and he missed a walk through. I mean, it'll look
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: now the question is the question is is you'll see it.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: You're you're gonna see a he's gonna file a what's
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: it called the grievance. Yeah, he's a file of grievance because, um,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: they're gonna take the ten million that is guaranteed. Because
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: the key phrase in that statement you read JP as
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: they felt like it was conduct detrimental, which gives the
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: team the ability to cut a player in waive any
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: guaranteed money guarantee you Earl Thomas and his representatives will
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: fight that. Yeah, here's the other of the question. He'll
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: sign a deal. He's not gonna get a ten million
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: dollar ye year deal from Anybody's gonna get an incentive
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: laden deal for a year from somebody, maybe the Cowboys.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: NFL commissioner Roger Gonell made an appearance on the YouTube
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: series Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man, and he said
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: that he wishes the NFL quote had listened earlier. In
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: quote to Cullen Kaepernick regarding why he began kneeling in
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: two sixteen, Pete, what do you make of the commissioners
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: appearance here? Well, why didn't he say that before? Then? Yep, yep,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: you have plenty of time to say it, and now
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he says it. Look, Karlin Kaepernick
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: had issues, don't get me wrong, as a player that
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: you know, that's part of the reason why some teams
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: didn't sign up. But he should have been in the
• 1:58:11
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• 1:58:14
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• 1:58:19
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• 1:58:21
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• 1:58:23
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• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: after he got cut right away, but never that was
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: actually the year before. Remember they were going to go
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: make a move for him and sign him and he
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: didn't want Yeah, and then Seattle inquired about it. There
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: is also talking how much did he love it? I
• 1:58:41
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• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Kaepernick one of the most UH sixty top sixty four
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: talented quarterbacks in this league? I would say, yeah, it's
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: about it, doubt yes, absolutely if you based it, If
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: you base it around just that, then I would feet
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: he should have been on a team. Unfortunate only Um,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of things go into um and I'm not
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: even speaking just to the callin Kaepernick situation. But if
• 1:59:06
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• 1:59:07
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• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: of the best thirty two safeties in the NFL. And
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of teams in Kaepernick. Kaepernick wasn't loved
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: in his locker room. I can tell you that one.
• 1:59:22
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• 1:59:24
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• 1:59:26
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• 1:59:31
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• 1:59:34
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• 1:59:36
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• 1:59:40
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