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The Hidden Trans Agenda Conservative Media Won’t Talk About — Lily Tang Williams Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. If you look around our country, you can see that there's things that are just falling apart almost everywhere you look. We've got the statues coming down in the past couple of years. We've got the riots.
• 1:49
  We've got this crazy gender theory being pushed in the schools. We have the children being led astray from their parents, these secret little groups. We've got just mass confusion. We've got left versus right, straight versus gay, black versus white. It's just the whole country seems like it's more divided than it's ever been.
• 2:10
  And so the question is like, what's causing this? Is this just because this is just modern America and and we're built on these terrible principles on slavery and that we gotta get rid of the patriarchy? Or is there something actually more real to what's happening? And so according to my guest today, Lily Tong Williams, what she's saying is that what we're experiencing right now is a Maoist cultural revolution. She's someone that grew up under Mao.
• 2:36
  She watched what happened even under Mao when she experienced the the blending of genders, the removal of gender identity so that the women look like the men, the men look like the women, and they that individual identity started to disappear so people could only rely on the state. So what she's seeing is all these same indicators that the techniques and the the psychological operation of a totalitarian takeover with communism is what you saw what she lived through is exactly what she's seeing happening here in America. So this is gonna be an important discussion because I think folks we have to understand who we are and understand who our enemy is. And for as long as we think that our enemy is a person across the political aisle from us, I think that we're fighting a losing war. So folks, I hope you really enjoy this interview with Lily Tong Williams.
• 3:23
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• 3:44
  The main place for that is on Rumble. Alright, folks. Let's dive into this interview now. So Lily, it is such an honor to have you on the show today. Thank you for for being here with us.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, my pleasure. Thank you for actually discovering me.
• 3:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, it's funny because I had first come across you on Twitter, and it was someone that, you know, you you we'll get into this in the interview, your experience living under communism, and what now seems to become, you know, have been your mission now to help Americans realize that communism is really, like, not at our front door, it's sitting on our living room couch, right, waiting for us to go to sleep. It's already in our house here in America. And so I first saw you there. And then I recently watched the, the third Plandemic installment, The Great Awakening by Mickey Willis, and you had such a critical role in that documentary and in the narrative of that, which I thought was just absolutely fantastic.
• 4:39
  And so how about we just start with, you know, give us just a brief history of your background, especially as it relates to the communist regime, you know, the Chinese Communist Party that you had lived under and spent a good portion of your life under.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, that document and film that is being censored, I have people telling me, Lily, we trying to share on Facebook And it was fact checked.
• 5:04
  Seth Holehouse: Of course.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: It's sad because I tell people I was born in China and grew up in Mao's culture revolution. I could not speak my mind. I could not think critically and independently. Basically, I could not express myself truthfully. And now I'm here being censored in America, my new country.
• 5:28
  And WeiChi, the Chinese app, yesterday I put on Twitter, my supporters, conservative Chinese Americans cannot post my campaign video on WeChat. And the meanings Chinese Americans, a lot more in the world and conservative Chinese voices were censored. So I put that on Twitter too. So when I was growing up, I had no idea what the world is about. I had no idea I was born into communism.
• 6:01
  I just remember my childhood memory of poverty. Eight families share one row house, one bathroom, one water faucet. And my parents were in literally the working class poor. Well, you would think it's supposed to be workers' rule right under communism. Everything's free.
• 6:23
  That's just further from truth. So we were very, very poor. My parents, because they were very low level workers in the state factories, we could not get enough food rationing coupons to feed ourselves. And, and my parents could not afford my little baby brother's infant childcare. I had to stay home, pull back for one year to stay home, babysit him as a six years old little girl.
• 6:53
  I was so scared. You know, you will say today is child abuse, but now that, it's okay. We do not have protections. And, but I did my duty as oldest child of three children. That's why by the time I won, I was able to go to government school, all government schools, I was so motivated.
• 7:14
  I made 100% all my academic studies. Also, I was taught the lesson of collectivism at seven years old. I wanted to be mouse young pioneer, like a little girl wear a red scarf so bad. I bragged to my girlfriend. I would be the first one to wear that red scarf in my class.
• 7:37
  And I was criticized. I was reported. And that was of course still during the Mao's cultural revolution, which he started in 1966 to 1976 until he died, ten years. And, you know, so, so I said, wow, I cannot trust anybody. So I learned my lesson.
• 7:56
  Don't trust your girlfriend. Don't trust your family members because they could report on you to the authorities. So, so people, people who don't know about most cultural revolution, I just want to remind you to do some research on your own because lots of people, don't learn that in schools, don't learn that at home. And he started that cultural revolution to purge his political enemies within the China's Communist Party members. The number one enemy is Liu Caoqing, who was a president, who become a president after Ma lost some power due to his economical central planning policies, to his mass famine that caused sixty million parents starving to death.
• 8:44
  So, and his slogan destroy four olds old culture, habits, customs, and ideas, and weaponized young people red guard to do his cultural revolution and to do his killings. Law was broke down. Nobody could enforce the law. You could watch people being tortured to death on the street. Nobody came to save you.
• 9:13
  And the kids turned up against their families, their neighbors, and their professors, and school were shutting down. And they were burning down statues, changing names and, and, and trying to erase, girls. We, we, we were told that, you know, we need to love to dress up like, his PLA armies and soldiers, and don't try to look pretty and erase the name husband, wife. So you call each other comrades and erase family. Mom, dad are dear, but my mouth is more dear.
• 9:51
  So, so I have seen that chaos. I have witnessed a struggling session in the public square, multi divided people into oppressor versus oppressed. So five black classes oppressors. Who are they? You know, rich farmers, landlords, rightists, bad influencers, and country revolutionary sounds arbitrary, right?
• 10:17
  Who decides who is the rightest here? No, multi side and party decide. And I was lucky. I was a rich child. You know, so if you have peasants, workers, revolutionary soldiers, communist party cadres, and, and the heroes, and then you are red class.
• 10:32
  So this kind of, you know, five red against five black in the public square, we call it today in struggle sessions, kind of similar to UDEI trainings. So, so I went through the entire process. I think some of my childhood memories were very actually painful to talk about it.
• 10:52
  Seth Holehouse: So folks, goodness inflation is going down. Thank you, Biden. But wait, if inflation is going down, then why are food prices still going up, energy prices still going up, and gas prices still going up? Because they're lying to us. Imagine that.
• 11:10
  You see, right now, the real rate of inflation is closer to 25%, not the 5% the White House wants you to believe. You can see this with your own eyes and in your own wallet. What this means is that if you had a hundred thousand dollars in your savings account just one year ago, today it's only worth about $75,000 in terms of your actual buying power. Your money is losing value by the day. If you went back to 1920 though, and you had a $20 bill or a one ounce gold coin, you could walk into a men's clothing store and buy an entire suit, jacket, shoes, pants, belt, everything.
• 11:48
  But think about it, what would a $20 bill buy you today? Maybe some socks, probably made in China, but an ounce of gold will still buy you that same suit. This is why I believe that now more than ever, it's a good time to consider transferring at least some of your wealth into physical gold and silver, real world assets that have stood the test of time. And for this, I'm confident recommending my good friend Doctor. Kirk Elliott.
• 12:14
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• 12:54
  Kirk Kelly's team will answer all of your questions and take care of you every step of the way. Again, that's (720) 605-3900 or goldwithseth.com. And so what's interesting is that even though the Cultural Revolution happened, you know, half a century ago, if you break down the core principles, you can see that the exact same strategy is being used in America. So, it's it's maybe different form on the surface. Obviously, we have the internet, you know, so we have a lot of things that have changed about our society, but that those fundamental principles are still there.
• 13:32
  And that's what really stood out to me, in some of your interviews with Mickey Willis on the documentary, especially when you're talking about the the destruction of the two different gender identities and how, you know, you weren't allowed to dress beautiful. I mean, in my opinion, some of the the traditional Chinese dresses are some of those beautiful dresses there are. I mean, they're just the embroidery and the color and the silk, everything. It's in many ways, I think it's actually much better than a lot of the Western, you know, dresses, much more elegant, but you weren't allowed to dress like that. You were basically made to look like the men.
• 14:06
  So you had that happening. You also had the disconnection, destruction of the nuclear family, which really happened primarily through the children, turning children against the parents, separating them from the parents. And so if you look at, you know, what where we are today, and what's happening in America, there's all these social phenomenon that we can look at and say, well, you know, okay, we're just modernizing as a culture, or we're developing, or it's it's the evolution of human society. But when you strip those thoughts back, you see it's the exact same principles. And so there's an article I want to pull up which I actually came across this morning, is quite shocking.
• 14:47
  And this is something out of New Jersey, they say that the number of non binary students in New Jersey is up 4000% since 2019. And so, in that forty one of these self identified non binary students are actually in elementary school. And so, this is so it's sickening, it's frightening, and all these things but fundamentally though, I look at this, I had to ask myself, is this part of the cultural revolution in America to take these young children and they use these struggle sessions, they use these classes to teach them that society is rejecting you and your parents are rejecting you by not accepting your pronouns and, you know, they're, they're pulling them away from their family, but then they're confusing them, they're confusing their identity so that they can't latch on to even their sexual identity. So they're more likely to latch on to the government or the state. So, you know, with with what you're, what we're seeing with this phenomenon in society, in your opinion, is this, is it, is it rooted in some sort of communist movement?
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I have been warning people for a few years now that, I have never seen our country so divided. And at the beginning, it's divided by race. And then we know we had some part of history in The US we're not proud of. We can talk about it. And I think America has come long way since the civil rights movement.
• 16:15
  But you see this long stop of identity politics, you know, it just intensified under Obama. It's just even more unbelievable in the past three years, even through the pandemic under Trump administration, everything's about race. Everything's about racist, and we all are accused to be racist. So it's a CRT, DEI, and then it's later it's an unvaccinated, a new, and, you know, if you're not vaccinated, you can, then you oppressor group and they go after you and you are, you have blood on your hands. Then now is the LBGT and the Q, and I don't know how many letters they're gonna add on top of that.
• 16:58
  So the most scary part now is that parents, some, most of them still don't know what's going on or they're afraid. And even conscious teachers who have a moral common sense and foundations, they don't like what's going on, but they're afraid to lose their job because radical left and Marxist groups are really loud to push it on this, maybe included like, you know, the teachers unions. And when I was a little girl, I was told that, you know, you cannot even dress pretty. All those Chinese beautiful silk dresses and styles were part of the four need to be destroyed. Red guards were, you know, looting door to door and to look for those four oaths.
• 17:46
  So if you had the Chinese traditional dresses in your home, you could be labeled like a bad names, one of the black classes and go to struggle sessions, plus you lose everything they found, include old furniture. They just take them like an old rosewood furniture. So people have to hide, bury or burn old, you know, books and journals and clothes and, just get rid of them. So, so you, they cannot be found, you know, at your home and you will be labelled into one of the black classes. And I was actually red class child.
• 18:26
  We are nothing. We own nothing. And, like we could not even afford a little radio for me to listen to little bit beautiful classical music I talk about, you know, on this, interviews like, oh, I just love to listen to that one minute break, news break. So I can enjoy this beautiful classic music. I did not even have, you know, privilege or, or, or money to have that.
• 18:49
  But at the same time I was told, okay, you know, you're a rich child and you need to be loyal to mouth, to the party. And you chant every day, you hold the mouths, little red books and you were not allowed to date. You were not allowed to show your body curves and little girls because, you know, you, they do want to create genderless societies where unisex is good because everybody just part of the masses and robots to be loyal to the regime. You're not there to challenge their narratives. And the lots of old, like a Peking opera created by Mao's wife.
• 19:28
  It's all about the woman dressed like soldiers and singing very high pitched voices. So age old Chinese traditional culture, especially the traditional Chinese, woman's dresses and all that were deemed to be old, for old, got to be destroyed. I remember I had crushes on some of my classmates. I dare not to talk about it. And I, and I wanted to look pretty.
• 19:54
  I was criticized to even have bands, to have my photo album and my hair could not lay down like this past shoulders, have to be proved like a short hair, like boys or ponytails and pigtails and put your hair up. Do not show your individual character expression and confidence, or you will be criticized. And I saw what's going on today in America, You know, parental rights to me, that's where we separate us from communist socialist countries. And the Biden come out to say, they are our children. They all are our children.
• 20:35
  It's like, oh, do you change their diaper? Do you feed them? Do you give birth? And do you educate them? And do you take them to see doctors when they're sick?
• 20:43
  They're parents. It belongs to parents. Unless there is a credible evidence, there is bills that we already have law to protect those children. But the most parents are good parents, love their children. And, our parental rights do not stop when our kids go to schools, go to public schools.
• 21:04
  So right now, this kind of push to say kids belong to the government, that's a totally socialist communist tactic to take over education classrooms, to take over curriculum, to actually use children to do the, to try to achieve their Marxist agenda and promote equity and, you know, social justice. But those, those are communist terms. Equity. How could you have equal outcome in the name of equity without government coming to redistribute wealth? So back to the classic Marxist theory again, it is about class struggles, but instead we use, you know, racism.
• 21:52
  We use people's skin color, gender, and today's transgenderism, trans rights, whatever fancy names that the Marxist people are able to create and use the media, weaponize media, and the federal and agencies to all promote the same thing. I know the propaganda rules. Number one, the party, the ruling party is always right. And number two, it's a, label people. If you don't agree with their narratives, then they give you a label.
• 22:25
  You are, know, at the beginning you're just conservative and later you're a domestic terrorist and you are white supremacist and you are extremist and I all kinds of names. If you don't agree with the narrative because of the media, well, lots of them are state media. They want to label you and then they tell you those lies every day. Then the lies become truth. And parents, kids, regular public, if they're not politically aware and they just accept it, okay, that's, that's the truth.
• 22:56
  You don't challenge anymore. It's so sad for me to see that happening today. And, I feel like it's my duty to come out, to tell my story, to get interviews, and to wake up our fellow citizens.
• 23:11
  Seth Holehouse: You know, what's interesting to look at is, you know, there's that famous saying, you don't know what you what you've got until it's gone. And I think that for a lot of Americans, this is also part of the overall long term strategy from the communists, was to make us very complacent, to make us lazy and distracted and, you know, and fundamentally, I think to take for granted everything that we have in this country. And, you know, take for granted our freedoms, you know, the opportunity that we have. And especially if you look at then CRT, you know, it's even further by not only saying, okay, take it for granted, but actually hate what you have, hate the wonderful things a country gives you, hate the American flag. But it's amazing seeing someone from you that came from a communist system to America.
• 23:56
  And so from that perspective, through your eyes, what does America mean to you after coming from a system living under communism? What does America mean in your heart?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: So, I always talk about my campaign is about keep American dream alive. What does American dream mean to me or to everybody now? To me, number one is freedom. It's individual rights and freedom and guaranteed under, you know, our constitution actually given to us by our creator, by God, cannot be taken away by any government, actually preexist any government. And the number two, prosperity, free market capitalism, free enterprise has given us so much wealth in this country.
• 24:51
  I was starved child. I only had the one brand of government brand for everything from detergent to toilet papers to to clothing to everything. We had no choices. I had to learn how to shop as a consumer, new consumer in this country to say, wow, your grocery store is beautiful home. I'm gonna buy shampoo out of 10 brands there, 10 prices.
• 25:17
  I, you know, I had to learn and I love that consumer choice when there are competition. And, and the number three is the rule of law, equal protection for every American city, the equal application of the law, all our law enforcement, all our judges, and all our politicians, when they're swearing, they all swearing to defend US constitution. But all those three major elements of my American dream today are under attack. And, I I feel like, years of educational system that are controlled by the centralized, basically educational from Obama's, you know, race to the top and common core and kind of push for their left of Beijing of The US history and taught our case to only focus on America's past and slavery, then demonize America and demonize Western countries, Western civilizations, and trying to stir up for people to be divided today to actually fight against each other. You know, I learned something about slavery and I learned MLK, Doctor.
• 26:46
  King, what he stands for. And I thought we have made a great process, know, progress in this country. Hey, we all should be just judged on the content of our individual character and the merit. And you take that personal responsibility to move up, to work hard, to save. I feel so welcome in this country.
• 27:11
  That's why I cannot buy into those kinds of rhetorics because I personally experienced such an open arm welcome when I first show up in Austin, Texas as a foreign student from China in graduate school in the, my sponsors in very wide neighborhood. They all offer me, you know, all kinds of household items, clothing, blankets. They know I was poor. I did not have any money as a foreign student. I'm so grateful for for their, you know, and such a heartfelt welcoming and help.
• 27:45
  And I'm supposed to demonize white people in this country. And, and I'm married to one, and my husband is Texan. His whole family love me, welcome me, accept me for who I am. I never experienced discrimination. Plus, think about it, I come here with nothing, could not speak English, almost turned 24 years old, a hundred dollars in my pocket borrowed, $1,200 in debt to my sponsor.
• 28:17
  I'm living American dream today. Three home businesses, running for congress, happily married with three children. You tell me in the world where I could go to do what I'm doing today. I love this country, and this is exceptional country. But but the Marxists, the the people who fall into those kinds of divisive politics still just complain and teach kids hate hate this country, hate themselves, their own race, and, blame everything on race, skin color, gender, of, you know what?
• 29:02
  If we just work hard and try to live American dream and, and put that responsibility on our own shoulder, there's nothing stopping you. Of course, we want equal opportunities. We're not going judge people on their skin color and race. But if somebody like me can do it from China without power, without family connection, without even English, So what stops us? Other people, minorities were born in this country.
• 29:31
  So I I just it's it's hard for us to be just be victims of this kind of identity politics. It it doesn't do any minority communities any good.
• 29:44
  Seth Holehouse: And so from your experience, you're coming from under communism and just seeing the struggle against it, how do we overcome it? How can, you know, the Americans that see that this is happening, right, the people that that understand, you know, where we're at and this the reality and what's at our doorstep, how can we overcome this? What how do you bring down communism?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you know, I'm not just worried about CCP. They did threaten me. And because I speak up in this country, I'm running as Republican Kennedy for Congress here and they cannot buy me. They cannot corrupt me. So they are attacking me and they are threatening me.
• 30:28
  I am on their target list. I cannot go to China since 2019 and to visit my families, but I'm not so worried about them. I'm gonna manage my fear. I'm going to speak to the truth. I will never be silenced in this country.
• 30:44
  I'm never going to cancel myself, but I'm worried about the Marxist socialist people in our own country and in our own federal government. And, the Confucius Institute infiltrated into our country for fifteen years to promote the Chinese culture, so called, but they are funded by CCP. The United Front groups are everywhere in this country. Finally, we have a China Select Committee, but I need to, lead them to hear our Chinese immigrant stories. What's going on?
• 31:31
  Who are bought and paid for? Who are doing business with them? And who are sympathizers? Who are friends of the Chinese consulate in our country? And if we want to start communism, now how about all the socialists who are pushing for those policies in our congress?
• 31:51
  But the people buy into free stuff. That's how they sold communism to the peasants in China for Mao. We're gonna give you free land, free health care, free education. It sounds wonderful when they sell you those free stuff. Your young people love it, right?
• 32:08
  Oh, we're gonna wipe all your student loans and the Medicare for all. People just love it. Reliant government sounds wonderful. And, the sayings that they don't know, it's all promise will never come. And by the time those people take absolute control of the country, of the Western and democracy countries, the world will be very dark place.
• 32:35
  And the people like us, you know, will be equally enslaved because, you see all the socialist communist countries, they only actually empower people on the very top, about 1%. You know, we were starving. Hey, they had unlimited food to eat. We were told not to date, could not even dress pretty. Mao was having dancing parties in his compound in Beijing.
• 33:00
  And, how stupid we were to believe everything, but, of course, you know, media, everything was controlled by the Communist Party. We could not know the truth. I had to learn the truth and wake up in the twenty years after I come to this country to relearn about China's history because they wiped out the true history. I learned the Communist Party version of Chinese history, and we got to learn that. That's why so many people in this country don't know what happened under the Mao's Cultural Revolution.
• 33:34
  Immigrants like me have to come out publicly to educate people, to point out the similarities and to call out the enemies within our country. It's very scary when you look at the communist party of the United States and socialist party, they all do not run their own candidates because they cannot win because it's so obvious that American people reject that. But when they run as Democrats and push for similar policies and use similar tactics, they get elected into offices and look at our school board. What kind of people are on our school board? What kind of policies they have, you know, from teachers' unions, their curriculums, equity, BLM, trans rights.
• 34:28
  I think it's time for all Americans who still have some common sense to wake up, to say what is really going on, who are our true enemies. It to me, if you cannot define, cannot find you true opposition, your real enemies, and you cannot defeat them, It's not about your skin. It's not about children's rights. It's not about and, an so called, you know, DEI. This is neo Marxist cultural revolution in America to destroy America, replace with what?
• 35:14
  You can call that replace with totalitarianism, globalism, socialism, and even church people bought lots of those stuff because the localism is very popular. And if you don't comply, you change the narratives. Maybe you will be bullied, you'll be pressured, and you will be, you know, like even lose your jobs and careers and lose money, lose funding. The Biden administration, frankly, is using federal dollars to funding gender affirmation care for minors. Minors can run away from family, go to some blue states to have their surgery.
• 35:56
  It's child abuse. Kids are not able to consent. You cannot even consent to have a tattoo under 18, and you cannot drink until you are 21. You cannot buy a gun until 21, but you can cut out your breasts, allow people to do damage to you permanently, cannot be reversed at the 13 or even younger and going to see drag queens, you know, in public squares. And remember we could not even take our kids to see already the movies in movie theaters.
• 36:31
  Yes. Like, where are the parental discretion? Where are the child protection laws? So, I mean, so this kind of trend is very worrisome, but some people are so afraid to speak up. So I always warn people, if you think things are bad now, if you don't speak up and we are not united unified to push back and, to fight back, wait until they totally take over.
• 37:00
  Just watch my channel, Lady Tang Williams. I interviewed a Cambodia genocide survivor. She said overnight that Camper Rouge took over her country, took kids away from her parents to neighbor camps because they were rich. And, she almost died in the neighbor camp. And they finally survived to come to this country, but she lost two family members on the journey to freedom as political refugees.
• 37:30
  Her dad fled the Chinese communism and started a business in Cambodia, said, oh, they're not gonna happen here. You know, we're self governing little island and we had a good life. We I'm small businessman. You know, we have good middle class. Poor man.
• 37:48
  He died later in Camonia, did not make out a life. So we we we got to we we got to learn this kind of horror history, and we got to know our true enemy today.
• 38:02
  Seth Holehouse: And so I feel like, you know, what I take away from a lot of what you just said is that there's a couple really, really key points. You know, one is that we have to strengthen our owners understanding of our history, right? Understand the constitution, the founding fathers, you know, what are the principles that make America America? You know, the division of power, you know, for, you know, trying to move power from the federal government off to the states, know, the individual states' rights. And even as it goes down even further than that, that's one critical thing.
• 38:32
  And I'm seeing a movement of that. I'm seeing a lot of people, a lot of patriots, a lot of Americans saying, I want to get back to that. I want to learn our constitution again because I think that we're seeing our rights are being taken away. And all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you know, well, that constitution is actually pretty important, isn't it? But I think another big thing, and this is something that I really try to do on this channel, is not only know just the history of our country, but note the history of the world, especially look at the history of communism.
• 39:01
  And it's interesting because if you look at what comes out of Hollywood or, you know, a lot of the the mainstream kind of narrative, everything's always about the Nazis. There's so many movies, so many Oscar winning movies all about Hitler, all about the Nazis. Not a single major Hollywood film that I can think of that talks about the great leap forward, or the Cultural Revolution, or the Hall Of De Mor, or the Killing Fields, you know, the like, they don't touch anything to do with communism because it's A, I think because it's mostly communists that run those industries. But I think that that's one of the keys is because if more Americans understood the history of how did a beautiful country like China or Russia or Cambodia, how did these countries go from freedom and prosperity into a complete communist totalitarian nightmare? Because if we if we saw that better, I think that more people would be feeling what you're thinking and saying, look, this is happening in America.
• 40:02
  We have to do every single thing possible to stop it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned this because three years ago, I had this idea. And I said, we need a great documentary filmmaker to interview all the cultural revolution under Mao survivors in Western countries. Now they can speak up, they can get interviews. And I know there are restrictions. You cannot go to China to do this, but there's so many of us in this country and those generations, some of them who went to countryside to be, you know, to, to be educated by peasants and labor camps, those generation, my uncle generation, they're getting old.
• 40:45
  We need to preserve their oral history. Some wrote books, some did not. It would be great for a film producer to interview them. Know, like, we have so many of those, you know, you know, great documentary films here. You are right.
• 41:02
  Oscars folks are not, they did, horrible. I remember I watched the Sanders list and made me cry. And I thought, would that be great to have a movie just like that produced in Hollywood about mouse cultural revolution? But I have not seen it. There are some Chinese ones published, you know, you know, like with, with English subtitles, like to live.
• 41:28
  And, that's like the Chinese actually that I think it's in Chinese language, but with English subtitles. So there are some movies, but not as famous as, some of those anti Nazi movies. How come they don't understand? Nazism, communism, socialism, they all are same family of collectivism, totalitarianism, and also terrorism. And how come you're after one, but at the same time, you sympathize, always trying to promote socialism and communism.
• 42:09
  Some our kids think Mao is cool. Awesome. They wear shirts on college campuses. And I was told on Twitter by the Socialist Party Twitter account, I did not survive real communism. Real communist society have not existed.
• 42:28
  How many people they want to see dying to try their own utopian society that will never come? One hundred million people died under communism in the past one hundred years. And you want to keep trying? It's insanity, right? So that's people got to understand the power of propaganda brainwash indoctrination in our schools, in our colleges and the teachers' colleges, especially.
• 43:03
  See, those are the same people now today. Lots of them are Marxists. They might even not think they're Marxists. You know, they call them, you know, social justice activists, transgender activists, teachers in our schools, counselors in our schools. And they have task to perform instead of teaching math English and real history.
• 43:29
  I offered to go to our schools to to as a witness to tell my stories, but I haven't got many invitations if they want to teach real history. Instead of Florida Department of Education and Grand, you know, like they they, university team come to my house interview me. So millions of kids in Florida k to 12 will see here my stories. But other public schools, including my own state, New Hampshire, I don't get invited. I'm actually constantly getting attacked by by by the people, you know, it's because, you know, I'm a republican, so I could be extremist, you know, but I I I just feel like, most people who are silent majority may need to speak up.
• 44:20
  And the 41% in our state are independent vote voters may need to speak up. And if we are constantly silent when we face evil, that the country we know as a free country, democratic, representative government, constitutional republic called The USA will be falling. And it's not my fear, I'm hungry. Just, if you study the history and you will see how quickly a free country like Venezuela, very rich with oil, just falling into hands of dictatorship and become totally socialist country in twenty years. And people have to flee and then look at them, Cambodia.
• 45:05
  And, and, so, so I think the way to stop this is to really define, to really know what the world fighting against and who are our enemies within our country. They are not high percentage, but the most people just are silent and the more and young people and even some, you know, left the activists they are used and they're abused to use, like, Lenin called them useful idiots. Right? And to promote those kinds of ideology and include some journalists who are activists. Just remind you, you will be thrown under the bus just like us, because we all will be equally enslaved.
• 45:52
  You cannot speak your mind anymore. And if you don't conform to the narratives, you will be locked up.
• 45:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's kind of a funny point. Is, you know, communism actually, agree. Communism does make everyone equal. You're equally poor and you're equally dead.
• 46:07
  Like, that's there there's your there's your equality under communism. And so, Lily, before we sign off, I know that you're running for congress, and so I wanna talk briefly about that and pull up your your website here because, you know, this is this is America. This is one of the ways that you fight in America is trying to enter into office. And I give you a lot of kudos for doing this because I can't imagine what it would be like having the attacks coming at you. But I want folks I'll put your links into the description.
• 46:36
  But your website for your, your congressional campaign is lilytongwilliams.com. And that's where people they can donate, which is a great way to support what you're doing. I know that, you know, you're probably not taking money from George Soros and all these dark agencies, right? You understand that. And so that's one of the difficulties is that they've controlled a lot of what happens in our country because they're funding.
• 47:01
  It's like if you're evil and communist, YouTube will love you, the government's gonna love you, You know, you're gonna get lots of money from lots of different people. But if you're fighting against that, it's it's really not easy. So that's just lilytongwilliams.com. And also, I wanna encourage folks to check you out on Twitter because this is where I found you. You're you're very active on there and your handle there is just Lily for number four, liberty, or just search for Lily Tong, you'll find you on Twitter.
• 47:31
  But in closing, do you have any final thoughts for people as we, near the end the conversation?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I'm still very hopeful and optimistic for America. And the truth is, though, I have no place to go. And besides fighting here and New Hampshire supposed to be the one of the best, you know, unfree states. And if it's not the, you know, top one or three, and we have a famous model, live free or die. But, even here, we have so many battles to fight.
• 48:10
  You know, our parental rights bill failed to pass. We cannot even bring that up for two years. And we have the indoctrination and the trans gender movement activists in our school districts and, kind of quietly to influence our children and, keep secrets from parents and have those very, you know, heavy in pornography books in our kids' libraries. And then they accuse us to be book banners. You know, it's like a, you know, socialist, you know, Marxist people are famous for banning books and like they don't publish some conservative books by Amazon or, or, you know, in the bookstores.
• 48:54
  But if you dare to question not age appropriate books in school libraries, your book banners. Do people even know what they're talking about? We are trying to protect parental rights here. And if it's age inappropriate, if we read it aloud and put on social media and school board people even say, oh, stop, stop. Then how is that possible to make that access to our young adults?
• 49:18
  Young adults, you know, law is like as young as even elementary school now. And, so I'm very worried. And, like you said, I still believe in our, election system, and there are lots of questions to be answered, and there are lots of loopholes at the state level. We need to try to tie that up to still guarantee our representative government democracy still works. And we still hold on to our second amendment right.
• 49:47
  We have constitutional carry in New Hampshire. And, so China, One Point Four Billion people cannot fight back because they're totally disarmed. So we still have a lot of sense, a hopeful and hopefully separation of the three powers and, you know, the, the core system and the legislative branch can still, come out to limit executive powers. But they say no, it's very worrisome when you say we have two tiers of justice system going after your political enemies. And it's just like a communist tactic.
• 50:23
  And so I think my goal is to focus on positive, unifying campaign and keep stick to my personal stories and draw these similarities to help people understand history, understand especially the communism history. And we do not want to repeat that story here. And I'm not, you know, of course, uncontrollable by lots of special interest groups and by, you know, big super PACs. I'm a people's candidate. That's why I said I need a 1,000,000, one million American citizens, green card holders in this country to only to my campaign $10 each.
• 51:05
  And I can win this. I can win this on my own marriage, on my own messages. And, I'm not taking big pharma money like my opponent, opponent, Congresswoman, you know, Annie Custer, she's got lots of money and she's serving her number six term now. And she votes with Pelosi, votes with Biden's policy 99% of time. And then she, you know, then she portrayed herself as a moderate Democrat.
• 51:37
  I don't know what else is moderate about your voting record, you know? So, so, but my slogan is say that I fear the country I love is becoming like the country I left. I want to do this regardless of personal risks I'm taking because I truly love this country, and I want to keep the American dream alive for our children. Thank you.
• 52:05
  Seth Holehouse: Well, Lily, thank you so much for being here and say thank you for what you're doing. And I really encourage folks to support you because you're on the front lines, news is very important. So thanks again for being here. It's a very important conversation and I encourage people that are watching or listening to share this because we need more Americans to understand the true threat of communism. So thanks again, Lily.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: One more thing, if I may.
• 52:28
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, please.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I'm fighting to stop this China CCP PLA company in Michigan to build battery factories. Michigan people opposed it by the administration. On the same day when Trump was indicted, they greenlighted the project. They said, Hey, we don't need to do the typical defense review. It's a local state issue.
• 52:55
  And it's not a national security issue. And the company, gaoxing dot com, their Chinese website with their English website is totally different. And we have a YouTuber, a Chinese American who actually did more research and put her YouTube channels out. And, they're saying, so I want to even remind Elon Musk, check your Twitter algorithm. The Twitter had the China Simplicider board member on Twitter board before he bought it.
• 53:29
  And, it will take a while to clean up because for some reason, whenever we talk about something like, like that, our, our videos don't reach to lots of people. And even my complaint against the CCP on WeiChair censorship of my campaign videos on WeiChair and doesn't get lots of traction. There's something wrong. I mean, like, you know, we, we have to clean it up. If we lose free speech, we cannot connect with people who want to hear from us.
• 54:00
  This is a totally interfere with our supposed to be free democratic elections, but we are the ones who are killed by the left media all the time. You know, right one, mega Republicans are the threat to democracy. Like, really? I cannot even share my campaign videos. Hey.
• 54:19
  But if you're a Democrat who running for Congress, you go to Weichia, you go to Chinese council office, and you have their events as speakers or something. No problem. Who are really threats to democracy. So people need to wake up. We need to just to have a fair, truly honest elections.
• 54:39
  I will need to mind the CCP infiltration into our country. If they, their factory can be built in Michigan with Michigan taxpayers' money, where else? Where else you cannot go? Their name excuses. Oh, Volkswagen is one of the shareholders.
• 54:57
  No. They only own 20%. And actually their voting power is only like 10%. And they they say, oh, it's a congress party member, and they do people's liberation army projects. Come on, select committee, all the, you know, Republican in the congress, please pay attention to this and work with Michigan people.
• 55:19
  And I'm willing to help, but nobody has called me yet. So I just want to throw out there. I'm so worried about this.
• 55:26
  Seth Holehouse: Well, you for that. Well, thank you, Lily. It's great to have you on. We'll see you next time.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You have a great day.
• 55:33
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. Alright, folks, I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 55:54
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 56:27
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations, literally it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is.
• 56:52
  So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, a lot of food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc.
• 57:21
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• 57:50
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