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Set 2: Brunson is a Cone Defender (w/ Colin Russo) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Excited to have Colin Russo on with us, the son
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  Speaker 1: of Christopher mad Dog Russo. He's on four to six
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  Speaker 1: pm Eastern every single day. ESPN West Palm Beach does
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: a great job. Right before we started here, you were
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: commenting on your dad's Super Bowl appearance with me and Taylor,
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: which I maintained is one of the all time great
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  Speaker 1: radio spots in the history.
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  Speaker 2: Of Super Bowl coverage. What do you think so?
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  Speaker 3: I did not. I saw it when you guys posted
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube, and I don't know what it was. If
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  Speaker 3: he was at the bar before, what time of the
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  Speaker 3: day you guys got him, if there was a gummy
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  Speaker 3: he was when you know, it's just him and Eddie
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  Speaker 3: Erickson and he's already bothered with Steve Tory and Adam Seine.
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  Speaker 4: He's bothered everybody, and it's Eddie Erickson. That's just his
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  Speaker 4: personal punching bag. It was perfect. You guys caught him
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  Speaker 4: at the right time.
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  Speaker 3: He was pounding Eddie Erickson for eating too much food.
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  Speaker 3: He was pissed off that people didn't invite him to
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  Speaker 3: any of the drinks and the dinners, and he said
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  Speaker 3: there at the Super Bowl at you know seven well
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred that he's been to and he's just sitting there.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, come to be great.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, that was one of the best spots you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: I've ever done. And so got to take me credit
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  Speaker 3: because he came after you like one hundred times the
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  Speaker 3: best he had. He goes, congratulations on Fox. Have they
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  Speaker 3: found out you don't watch the games yet?
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  Speaker 4: That was great?
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  Speaker 2: They knew before they hired me. I told him.
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  Speaker 4: That was great. That was great.
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  Speaker 5: Colin sitting there, it felt like it felt like a
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  Speaker 5: picture that was throwing a no hitter and everybody around
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  Speaker 5: just had like a hush around them, as as your
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  Speaker 5: dad is performing and I'm just sitting there pretending like
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  Speaker 5: I'm in the outfield during this perfect game, being like,
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  Speaker 5: please don't hit me the ball.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want this ball.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor's reactions were really really good during that too, especially
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  Speaker 3: when we got into Eddie Erickson, who was pounded him
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  Speaker 3: was just sitting there.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, yes, poor Eddie, and he seriously,
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  Speaker 1: it's just strap, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You guys a good spot together, that's funny, and you
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  Speaker 3: keep going after him for the Friday spots you do
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  Speaker 3: with the picks and he.
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  Speaker 4: Can't get pick right.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you tell your dad I love my job at Fox.
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  Speaker 1: But if your dad wants a co host, he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been disengaged. It's francessa. I mean, let's go, let's get
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  Speaker 1: it done.
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  Speaker 3: It's good Steve Tory college smelling and Eddie Erickson.
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  Speaker 4: I guess you get them out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Tory is mad at me. I mean.
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  Speaker 3: A legend what Chris Brusso was happy to share it
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  Speaker 3: during during the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I had no idea Tory was mad at me.
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  Speaker 1: And I still don't know why Tory's mad at me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean perhaps he hasn't you know. I reached out
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  Speaker 1: to Tory one time. He said, send me a tape.
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  Speaker 1: I said, here's the tape. It was your dad, who's
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: on with me just about every single week. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you need a tape for him? But doing
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  Speaker 1: this for twenty years.
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  Speaker 5: The brilliance though of of Dog though, was that he
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  Speaker 5: saw that beef and he immediately compared it to Jeter
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  Speaker 5: and a Rod.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah, trying to turn you into the third basement.
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  Speaker 2: You No, I told him I'm coming in. I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: Jeter spot that's what I'm doing, right.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: He's so great.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to play this out speaking of greatness,
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: before we get to the Knicks, before we get to
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: your love of the Charlotte hornets, which is odd, which
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  Speaker 1: surprised all of us. I want to play this sound
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  Speaker 1: for you. I just have you kind of walk us
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  Speaker 1: through it afterwards. This is your dad talking about Lincoln.
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  Speaker 6: Grant, of course, the Union general, Lincoln's favorite general and
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  Speaker 6: his best huge alcoholic tank lie crazy. And then of
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  Speaker 6: course the president for eight years and try to run
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  Speaker 6: again the third time, and garthieud beat him.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway.
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  Speaker 6: He wrote a you know, he did the Q and
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  Speaker 6: A with the author who wrote the Grant biography. And
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  Speaker 6: this is a Chris Christie recommendation this book, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: so here give hit him the credit. But he wrote
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  Speaker 6: the He asked, this is something I did not realize.
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  Speaker 6: Lincoln in eighteen sixty five, in April, when he went
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  Speaker 6: to the Ford Theater that night to see the play,
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  Speaker 6: he invited the Grants to go with him, Ulysses and
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  Speaker 6: his wife, I think her name is Julia. He asked
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  Speaker 6: the Grants, Beggnam, you know the war was over a potomax.
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  Speaker 6: I think I pronounced it right, oppamatics, that's correct.
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  Speaker 4: You know happened. You know a couple of weeks before
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  Speaker 4: that was Robert E.
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  Speaker 6: Lee and he asked Lee, please, I'm going to the
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  Speaker 6: theater tonight. It was good Friday, me and missus Lincoln,
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  Speaker 6: could you please join us? And Grant wanted to go
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  Speaker 6: in the worst way. His wife couldn't deal with Mary.
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  Speaker 6: Lincoln wanted nothing to do with her. He listens, I
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  Speaker 6: can't do this. I can't put up with her, for.
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  Speaker 4: She're gonna drive me nuts.
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  Speaker 6: Says she refused to go. So Grant said, miss President,
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  Speaker 6: I can't go. If Grant went, he was going to
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  Speaker 6: bring his military entourage meaning protection, meaning there's no way.
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  Speaker 6: John Wilkes Booth gets into that Ford Theater with a gun.
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  Speaker 4: Lincoln's alive called up the hour back into this.
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  Speaker 2: That's Hall of Fame storytelling right there.
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  Speaker 3: Man. It really is so a couple of things there.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't know where he got that from.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he must he must be reading
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  Speaker 4: a book.
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  Speaker 2: But Chris Christie, he let us know.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Christie books very important detail.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there's a great Netflix documentary I think I told
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: you guys about this last time I was on there's
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  Speaker 3: a great Netflix in the documentary, it's like a retelling.
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  Speaker 4: It's a story thing about James A.
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  Speaker 3: Garfield winning in eighteen eighty or eighteen eighty beating He
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  Speaker 3: beat Ulysses Grant, he beat Roscoe Conkling out of New York.
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  Speaker 3: It was a good it's how he get president and
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  Speaker 3: then he was assassinating six months in long story short
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  Speaker 3: that was short of where that started, you know that
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  Speaker 3: late eighteen hundreds. The one thing I say about this
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  Speaker 3: a couple of picks number one, the wives.
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  Speaker 4: Talking to each other in hypotheticals.
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  Speaker 2: Isat like he's there, who knows what.
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  Speaker 3: The what the wife is saying to the Usrand I
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  Speaker 3: can't deal with the first lady?
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  Speaker 4: No, don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Dad claims he knows that, he knows. I'm
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  Speaker 2: good with that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he noticed I can't do this. I can't
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  Speaker 4: deal with the first like really, So.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it really is, We're gonna have to deal
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  Speaker 3: with the first lady. So let's just talk about that
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  Speaker 3: for a second. But another thing, maybe I'm reading too.
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  Speaker 4: Far into this. I texted about this after I saw.
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  Speaker 3: This I said, the one thing about it is John
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  Speaker 3: Wilkes Booth, who killed Lincoln was a famous actor. He
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  Speaker 3: was a stage actor and he was like one of
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  Speaker 3: the best in the country. So this is like George Clooney,
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  Speaker 3: Like George Cooney is gonna be able to get you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: He's famous, he's gonna get the military entrage. It's like
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  Speaker 3: I think he's get Lincoln rather.
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  Speaker 4: We like it or not.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if this was a you know,
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  Speaker 3: the military Autorge makes that movie much of a difference because.
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  Speaker 4: This was a famous actor.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I said two.
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  Speaker 3: Things there, and he had no rebuttal for the Wilkes
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  Speaker 3: Booth being a famous actor.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently the author Haze is a big deal. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, well, he said what he had to say, and
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  Speaker 2: you know he moved done.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: So you saying that John Wilkes Booth was so famous
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, because now you're putting yourself there
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  Speaker 1: with knowledge, are you saying he was so famous that
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  Speaker 1: even if the security was there, he.
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  Speaker 2: Would have gotten through because they would have been hey, hey,
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  Speaker 2: that's John Wilkes Booth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying that if there was a military entourage there,
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  Speaker 3: he's a famous stage actor. I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 3: patting everybody down. It's not that time of day, it's
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  Speaker 3: not that period, or you know, they're not walking through
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  Speaker 3: a metal detector.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know either he's get through, it's not
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  Speaker 4: so I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't understand the idea that you know, Ulyissen says Grant
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  Speaker 3: being there, therefore, everybody's going to be on their game
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  Speaker 3: when the president's up there. If the President was up
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  Speaker 3: there and Wilkes Booth got through, I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: get through with you.
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  Speaker 4: Listen. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: So Stu points for Colin here. If this was around
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  Speaker 5: the horn, I'm looking up John Wilkes Booth right now.
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  Speaker 5: Historians wrote that Booth won celebrity with theater goers by
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  Speaker 5: his romantic personal attraction, and some critics called the handsomest
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  Speaker 5: man in America and a natural genius with an astonishing memory.
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  Speaker 4: This guy.
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  Speaker 5: This guy's getting into wherever he wants to get into it, and.
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  Speaker 4: It's not to get anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: He put it on the pole. Tayler was John Wilkes booth,
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  Speaker 2: the Leonardo DiCaprio of his time. Such a great poll question,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he's right. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Back to your dad's super Bowl appearance on my show.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this quick, Stork, we'll get onto.
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  Speaker 2: The next year.
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for slightly over twenty years. My
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  Speaker 1: father has called me twice after a show.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: The first time he called me after I got in
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  Speaker 1: a fight with Rick Barry and made me apologize to
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  Speaker 1: Rick Barry on my drive home.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The second time was after your dad came on with
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  Speaker 1: me this past Super Bowl to say exactly what it is?
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: You said, that's the best spot Dog has ever done.
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  Speaker 3: So there's something about it. I watched that a number
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  Speaker 3: of times. Too funny.
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  Speaker 4: He was coming after you.
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  Speaker 3: He was going up tailors, going after Eddie Erickson's Mad
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: Dog Radio.
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  Speaker 4: He was gummied up. It was like day. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was a couple of days into the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: He loves pounding the radio. Row stuff great, it's great,
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  Speaker 4: too good.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, are you close with it with with Eddie? Are
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: you close at all with Eddie?
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  Speaker 3: Edie's always around, so the thing is like Eddie's like, let's.
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  Speaker 4: Do it all.
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: Guy, he's a great producer and they're very close. But
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: you know, like whenever we're for example, like every summer
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: we go to the Jersey Shore and Mad Dog Radio
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  Speaker 3: does like a day at the bar, a at bar
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  Speaker 3: anticipation down in Belmont and Belmar, and he like, we
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: were at my grandmother's house and like, Eddie's just hanging
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  Speaker 3: out with us, like for the you know, spend two nights.
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  Speaker 4: With us all. Eddie's just there. And of course it's
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: not just for the on air.
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  Speaker 3: Eddie gets pounded whenever, you know, with or with not
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  Speaker 3: the the MIC's rock.
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  Speaker 4: Eddie's the butt of every joke. He runs the Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody ever thinks that adding Chris Russo is going
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: to accomplish anything, I promise you he.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't see it. So that's number one.
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: Eddie runs all that. He's just do it all guy.
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  Speaker 3: I love Eddie Eddie and he's and he's a very
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  Speaker 3: loyal soldier.
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  Speaker 2: Was there a number two or no?
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Just that's number one.
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  Speaker 4: There was no number two, No number two. I did
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  Speaker 4: number one.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, So that the Knicks lose a heartbreaker last night,
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Taylor's upset.
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  Speaker 2: I'm upset.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Taylor called Mike Brown Mike clown before he's upset of
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: the win probability charts from ESPN. What were your thoughts
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: of the Niggs losing that game last night? A game
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: they quite frankly should have won.
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  Speaker 4: So a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: They said on the broadcast that they had to time
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: out that last possession. I don't think they actually could
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: have called one correct because only called they did not
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: have a timeouts, and the boy tests got that wrong.
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  Speaker 4: It's a terrible job there. So that's the first thing.
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  Speaker 3: The second thing, people are going after Mike Brown, can
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: we go after Brunson a little bit? I mean Brunson,
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: who is mister clutch, who has been their guy to
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: close out games.
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  Speaker 4: Number one gets stripped up to with seventeen.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: Seconds to go and going right down the floor costs.
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: Jayalen Johnson gets the Duncan's a four point game, game
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  Speaker 3: essentially over. I know he hit the two threes, especially
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: one to tie it at one O three, But but with.
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  Speaker 4: J and also CJ.
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  Speaker 3: McCollum, I mean Jalen Brunton was a cone on defense.
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  Speaker 3: He was going after him every possession, and.
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  Speaker 4: He was scoring. He was scoring well. So I'm going
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: to give a little.
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  Speaker 3: Pound to Jalen Brunson for being not only a liability
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: on one end of the court, but he missed that
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  Speaker 3: short He missed that elbow jumper from the with about
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: a minute and a half to go. Then he got
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  Speaker 3: stripped with fifteen seconds. I know he hit the three,
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  Speaker 3: but it was too little, too late. I'm more after
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, Jaylen Brunson than I am after Mike Brown.
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  Speaker 2: So I am with you on this.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor put it on a pall with Jalen Brunson, a
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: what do you call him?
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  Speaker 2: A cone on defense track.
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  Speaker 4: It was a traffic com. It was a traffic com.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, he was.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: He was, except the cone moves more so it was
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  Speaker 1: interesting because I'm with you. Everyone's going to get on
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Mike Brown today. Everyone's going to get on Carl Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Towns today. And no, the guy who's been nineteen of
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  Speaker 1: forty eight through the first two games of this series
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  Speaker 1: is Jalen Brunson. It's a super store of the team
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: and he needs to be better. Like all this criticism
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  Speaker 1: of Towns is ridiculous. Jalen Brunson needs to get Towns
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the fourth quarter and he didn't do
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: it because he was chucking up shots all over the place.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds good Towns playing well too, Like he's
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: a great second option. He is not a good first
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: option and he's perfect what the next trund do?
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: But they have to.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: These stars are so afraid to not take control of games.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: And there's certain guys that just want to take every
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: shot for themselves and want to control the game on
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  Speaker 3: their own court versus guys there are maybe a little
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: too passive. Jokis is a good example of this. Joki
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: is way too passive at the end of games. Boy
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: is car He need to be more involved. What was
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: he eight of twelve yesterday? And he in the game?
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: He was efficient, he could score, He's good on the
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: he's good on the offensive, rebounds on the glass.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: I completely agree with you on the fact that he
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: moved the ball a little bit more.
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: It shouldn't be need to be.
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  Speaker 3: Jaylen Brunson is getting targeted defensively, and then the other
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: end of the court they get their best defender on him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I would utilize other options on the office.
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  Speaker 4: On the offense, Taylor, what is.
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  Speaker 1: He was eight to ten headed into the fourth Quarter'll
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  Speaker 1: get the tailor's thoughts here in a second. So he
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: only took two shots at the fourth quarter. That's on
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. He's the guy controlling the ball the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: Can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: My frustration isn't really Carl Anthony Towns. It's more that
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: it seems like the Knicks have Karl Anthony Towns. They
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: brought in a second coach to try to maximize Carl
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: Anthony Towns, and now for a second straight coach, we
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: get to the playoffs and this coach is kind of
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: looking around me and like, yeah, Carl Anthy Towns, I
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: don't really know how to maximize your potential.
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  Speaker 3: Another thing I would add to that is, remember a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the reason that they got rid of Thibodeau
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: is because everybody was worried about the depth of the
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: next and the lack of usage into the depth of
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: the next. And then you got Mike Brown here, who
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I believe played ten guys yesterday. That's right, he did,
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  Speaker 3: and Alvarado, McBride and Shaman didn't even score. So we're
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: utilizing the depth and the depth is not being effective.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not a Tibodeau guy. I was actually in favor
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  Speaker 3: of this when they actually got rid of him, because
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I think Thibodeau is a floor raizer, not a ceiling
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: not a ceiling buster. But the one thing is they
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: wanted more depth than the depth is not necessarily adding
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  Speaker 3: anything to the team as well.
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  Speaker 2: There's no chance that Mike Brown is going to get
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: fired here, is there?
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: If they lose, even if they lose to the Hawks,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: is he going to get fired?
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Hawks is another thing. Hawks is another thing. Did you
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: guys see that it's happened while you guys are doing
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: the thing? Billy Donovan's not coming back as the Bulls coach,
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: so that was officially announced. It was his decision. The
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Bulls wanted to back. So I don't know if that's
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: about Steve Kerr, if that's about Todd Golden potentially taking
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Steve kirs job, if that's you know, all of a sudden,
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: there's a good Teck quick replacement in right there and
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Billy Donovan.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: But if they lose, I mean, think about a changer.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Things have happened.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: They fired Mike Malone from Denver. I mean, they get
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: rid of these guys playoff success or not.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: The Knicks won't do it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: It's a bad look for the owner, for the president
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: and for the owner and Dolan if they get rid
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: of two coaches in two years. But I mean, geez,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, if there was a year to do it,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: it's this year.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Forget about Donovan.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: What if your James Dolan and Steve Kerr picks up
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the phone today calls you and says, hey, I.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Want to be the next Knicks coach. What do you do?
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I think if Steve Kerr calls and gives you that,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: you absolutely do it. And it would be ashamed because
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Mike Brown has sort of been that fiddle to curve
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: before in the past. He would hate that situation. But
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know why Kurr would do that. Why is
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: there so much fly, you know, rumor about current leading.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't Kerr want to stick it out with Curry to
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: finish off his career sort of like embodied that culture,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: built that culture.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: The Warriors is a great job. They're just as valuable
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: as the Knicks. It's just not the Mecca.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's on it's an easier place to win
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: as lo and behold, it's been so the NIXI once
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: in seventy three, so seventy two.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: What if he brings Curry though, I mean, how about that?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know Curry's contract situation. If everybody wants
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: to go to the next until it's time to go
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: to the next, then nobody wants to go to the next.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: So the same thing about Lebron. They all love the next?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Does he We have played there before, and.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Lebron loved fucking with the Knicks and fucking with their fans.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: He had never had any sort of intention of coming
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: to New York, So.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Does he like KWHI wants the NIXT Durant wants the next?
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Durant played in Brooklyn?
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I don't know if he's that desperate
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: to play for the next.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: No, he had his chance, Dude, of the problem in
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: your hypothetical with Curry coming over to the Knicks, you
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: can't have Curry and Brunton playing defense on the same
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: side of the court. It would be games played in
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: the one forties fifties at that.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Point, yes, but at a good point. Yes, good point.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Did you Michael Bridges taking that final shot that that
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: drive you crazy that he was the one taking then?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he someone had to take the shot.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: They had no time out, so they had to get
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: a terrible look, no look, and he hit that shot
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: towards the end of the first half in a similar situation,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: similar spot, brunts him down to the ball. Whoever gets
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the ball in that spot has to take the shot.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: That's it. The clock's running out.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: And if you asked mckel bridges what his preferred shot
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: would be, it would be that mid range shot.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, half way decent.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Look, it's just if I'm going to put a cap
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: on the Knicks game, it's CJ McCollum torts Jalen brunts
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter every possession they were trying to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: get switches and it was Iso and he went by
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: him every single possession. Yet lucky that mccoum missed the
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: two free throws to give him chance. But this was
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson, in my opinion, not holding up one complete
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: fifty percent of the game in defensively and then offensively
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: not closing out games. So I can't necessarily pound Mike
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Brown for how we handled it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about Spike Lee because he's starting
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to annoy me, like he gets these guys Reggie Miller,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Trey Young, CJ. McCollum. He gets them all fired up.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: They have the games of their lives at Madison Square Garden.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Just shut up and watch the game.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus, there is something to it. There is
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: something about playing that team in that spot. Everybody wants
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: to be everybody's great, right And Jalen Brunston's playing at
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: MSG for the fiftieth time this year, whereas you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys don't play at MSG all
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that often. They don't have any celebrities there. It's always
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: the biggest game of the night. I completely agree with
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you. You are almost operating at a disadvantage because everybody plays
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: up to their competition. You're the team that everybody plays
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: up to, and that it's The Lakers probably have a
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: little bit of that, but the Knicks, especially because the
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Knicks don't have a star, or they do have a star,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: but they don't have a tough player in the league.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: And I don't think once it is, they're not a
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Lebron to nullify that. And that's why it was easy
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: when the Warriors got everybody's best shot because they had
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Curry and Durant, or when the Lakers get the best shot,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and they got don Kitchen, Lebron Jalen Brouocks is not
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: necessarily on that level despite what people may think.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Let's test something out here because Taylor is very upset
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: with Mike Clown. So let's just test this out. Colin Taylor,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: if I told you today, okay, today, you can get
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: rid of Mike Clown and replace him with Billy Donovan, would.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You do it?
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: As in, I'm going through the rest of the series
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: with Billy Donovan.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Game three Thursday in Atlanta.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You're showing up to the arena with Billy Donovan as
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: your head coach.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Would you do it?
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: No, we have to see this season through, at the
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: very least with Mike Brown. If Mike Brown loses to
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: the Hawks. I'll be at Penn Station helping impact his
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: bags and going back to wherever he lives. But at
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: the very least he deserves the chance because this entire
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: season has kind of led to this moment where whatever
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the Knicks did in the regular season, as long as
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: they got one of the top seeds's gonna be fine.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Mike Brown is going to be judged based on what
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: the Knicks do in the playoffs. When you fire a
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: coach that just took you to the conference finals for
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: the first time in you know, twenty plus years, he
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: deserves at the minimum to finish out this series.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: It's very nice.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Mikey A seems to disagree. I think, Mikey Wow, you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I think he take Billy. I know he takes Steve
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Kirt today. I'm pretty certain he take Billy Donovan. I'm
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: pretty certain, Mikey.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I would change something right now, and yeah, it's probably
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that you can't change Brunson.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You can't change you know, Karl Anthony Town I probably
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: change it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get rid of Spike Lee.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I take it's entirely too much. The celebrities are entirely
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: too much. I completely agree with you. We don't see
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: it every five seconds. Come on, we're bashed over the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: head with it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Colin, I know this creature very well. He take Wwin
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Snyder's the head coach right now.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: He would.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: So for me, if you're telling me, I have to
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: get rid of the coach right now, or else we
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: we would have no chance to get them in the
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: off season. One of the coaches, and he's close with Colin.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Dan Hurley, I would take Dan Hurley Right now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Everybody loves saying Hurley wants to go to the league.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Hurley would be fired within five games. He would mean
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: a thirty three year old professional who's been in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: NBA for twelve years. That is Hurley does not fit
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the mold of what an NBA coach. He'd be out
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: before he came in. Now, I think Hurley loves the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: nick job. I think that if there's ever an NBA
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: job he would take, it's not the Lakers, it is
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the Knicks. Yes, And so that's one thing. He's a
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: he's a you know, a Northeast guy, but he is
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: not an NBA coach. Come on, do you see the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: videos of his practice. He's going after these guys. It
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: not in a like, not in a completely condescending way,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: but he talks to them like they're like they're you know, support,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: It's like they're college students. And he can't do that
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: to pros. You got to be a player coach in
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the pros, and it's so cutthroat the NBA, they'll get
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: rid of you for anything. It's not I would argue,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: out of the major sports, the NBA head coach is
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: by far the least important comparatively to the NFL, MLB,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the managers, even hockey in the NHL.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: No, the NBA is by far.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: In the old days, maybe we couldn't say that, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: definitely in the last ten to fifteen years.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: It is not about the coach.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Now, listen, you can only play five guys at a time.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: If you have a great player, you have a chance
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to win a championship. I have said this for a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: number of years. I agree with your take. Phil Jackson,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to me, one of the most overrated coaches in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: history of sports. Eventually someone was going to win with
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, and eventually someone was gonna
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: win with Shaq and Kobe.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, Krause did a great job.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I know he gets a lot of flack for how
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: he handled at Jerry Krauss, but he built an excellent roster.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You know, the first repeat they had Horace Grant there.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: They were willing to pivot once Jordan kind of came out.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: They had to get the team better. They brought in
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Rodbin like they did a good curR got a coup coach,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: so they were able to kind of change identities a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: little bit, but keep the court. I mean that that
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: was as good of roster building as you could find
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: as well. So he walked into a perfect storm perfect shoes.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, Stu, I mentioned Yukon earlier, and now that we're
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: about a month out from the tournament, I want to
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: revisit one of Collins takes and see if it was
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: just prisoner of the moment at the time, because after
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Yukon beat Duke, Colin called it the best Yukon win
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: in the history of the program, for a program that
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: has won six national titles.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of flat to this. I don't
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: know if you you deserved it. My dad came after
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: me for this lot who came after me for this saying?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: You know, fly prison of the moment that Duke Yukon
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Game Elite eight with the game winner. They led for
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: basically fifteen seconds of the entire game, game winner from
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: basically half court. Yes, fine one, I'll admit Duke versus
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Yukon in ninety nine was a better win. He was
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: playing a Duke team that hadn't lost since surly not
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and since early December, and Yukon, believe it or not,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and they hadn't lost games, Yukon beat them.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: That's the best win in program history.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say that Yukon beating
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you know, Georgia Tech, or Yukon beating Butler or they're
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: beating San Diego State by fifteen is a better win
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: because it's a title game comparatively to beating Duke, who
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: had lost you know, three games all year, two of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: which by a point. They lost to Texas Tech. Day
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: they lost to North Carolina. Taylor knows North Carolina didn't
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: lead at any point in that game until that Seth
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Trimble game winner.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: They Texas Tech. They blew the game.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: That Duke team was excellent, and that was, to me,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I'll say, his second biggest win.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: In program history. So I think come off my hill
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: that much.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: No, So first off, I'll say I'm proud of you
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: because that's a great take. You need to come up
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: with different takes in sports radio, and you certainly did.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Whether you believe it or not, it doesn't matter. You're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: going to stay in trench. And I would also, yeah,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Also argue this, okay, that Duke who has a similar
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: resume to Yukon in terms of college basketball and what
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: they've done historically. You can make an argument the most
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: famous game in Duke history was the Elite eight game
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Latner shot against Kentucky that got them to a Final four.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You could make that argument.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: You good, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And that was
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: sort of a prespose.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Of a huge sort of dynasty that had there in
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the early nineties.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I grace.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: It's about who you beat, how you beat them. They
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: come from behind nature. The shot, the moment that Yukon
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: shot was as good of an NCAA tournament shot as
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I've seen in my life. So I called me crazy,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: But I can't see and say fifty four forty six
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yukon over Georgia Tech. I can't sit here and tell
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: me that was.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: You know what a win?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Come on, guys, scroll come on San Diego State really as.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: A five seed. I'm not listening to that. I'm gonna
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: be honest with you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So how did this happen? Your dad heard the take?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: He then calls you. What does he say to you? Like?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: He says, college, they won all these national championships. What
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: are you talking about?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Reading my quote for Betam on air?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: He reads it for Betam on air and he goes,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Colin's gotta calm down.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: From the guy who said it would still be alive.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, Colin's got to calm down. Don's got to
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: calm down. I don't know, but it was funny me
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: getting pounded to that. I did not think that was fair.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I did not think that was fair.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: So just no, it wasn't fair.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But it just dawned on me how you became a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Hornets fan because of you com right, because of Kemba.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, Kemba that was me growing up.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: And Kemba was at you know that that massive run
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: in twenty eleven. Uh, and then I followed him to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the Bobcats. Remember he got drafted. It was the blockout
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: year and they went nine and.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Fifty eight, right, So it was one of.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: The worst teams in the history of basketball. You Gerald Henderson,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the whole crew, and so I've been kind of sticking
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: with them ever since. Now, the problem is the Hornets
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: haven't made Basically, they've never won a seven game series,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: so I don't.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Know what the end.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: They had a terrible performance on Friday. If you guys
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: watch that Magic game, it was one of the worst
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: games I've ever watched. But yes, Kempball was the reason
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I shifted over to the Hornets.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: All right, it's a tailor, it's set. So you're still
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a Hornets.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Fan, correct, Yes, yes, sir, yeah, I'm.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Like, that's unfortunate. I'm sorry. I mean, I'm a.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Small market fin I've got weird fandoms.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I grew up in the New York area,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: but my dad's not a New York sports fan.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: And by the time I.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Was really growing up, you know, he used to be
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: a Packer fan, but he wasn't necessarily he wasn't watching
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: He wasn't Green Gold every every Sunday watching the game,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you know, thinking about he loves Lombardi. He doesn't love
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the Packers, loves Lombardy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yes and yes, yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I wasn't necessarily raised in a Packer household. I was
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: raised in a household where Chris Brusso and father Rob
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Will put money on Saint Bonaventure over under. So I
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily It wasn't like I had a steeler like
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you know in my bedroom when I was eight years old.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Didn't necessarily happen. So I kind of had my free
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: will to take whatever I wanted, and I liked the
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: small market team because I like having my own contrarian
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: at heart. So I like having my own team. So
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I'm a Jags fan. I'm a Hornets fan. My dad
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: did San Francisco Giant fan. I said, screwed that, let's
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: go across the Bay. I'm an Oakland Athletics fan. I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: still Holm in Oakland, and and you know hockey. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: think hockey is a regional sport since we're in Florida.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I do root for the Panthers, but I was an
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Islanders fan growing up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, good?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Uh do you still call them the Oakland A's putting
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: on the Poul.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Taylor because I still do it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Well, there'll be yes, Las Vegas come on the terrible
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I hate that more than anything.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But they're actually pretty good right now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So so Taylor headed no ounce before anyone else that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the Hornets were going for it right now.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Uh. And it looked good for a while until they
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: played the.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Game they played the other night, and they turned back
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: into the Charlotte Hornets.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: That was depressing because that team is good. Many team's good. Yeah.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: They they were second in the league in offensive ratings
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: since All Star Break.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I mean they could score Conk Nipple was a no show.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: He was beat up.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You know he played you know eighty he played eighty
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: some games. But uh, they need a big there. They're
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: a piece or two away. They need some depth. They
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: need another big LaMelo. I mean people have been criticizing LaMelo.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is warranted in terms of,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: you know, how he handled himself. I didn't think he
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: handled the bam out of bio thing properly.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But he's the.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Type of player where there's a lot of them.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: You got to deal with their bs.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Like there was a lot of players throughout all sports
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: where they drive you crazy until they make big plays.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: That's Lamolo ball. He's one of those guys. So you
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: just have James Harden's a gond example of this. You
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: got to deal with their nonsense because eventually or Kyrie,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: eventually they're gonna put you in a great spot and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: win you game.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: That's what LaMelo is in a lot of ways.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yep, will you be into the draft this week? What's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: going on there?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll be into the draft. I think a lot
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of people. The one thing about draft season is it
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: is funny. This week is good. Three weeks ago, two
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, the fabrication of stories, trying.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: To come up with like an angle.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think dan Orlowski did that very blatantly with
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the ty Simpson thing a couple weeks ago.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: You know, ESPN had a slow week, so t goes.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I think ty Simpson's QB one and the that I've
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: heard from general managers and every other guy who's involved
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: in the draft, say, is I talked to every general manager. No,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: nobody agrees with you. So I don't know who you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: talking to.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: What you're talking to. He's one of those the draft.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: It's very easy to discept to decipher when these guys
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: are trying to fabricate a story. But I'll be into it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a couple offensive pieces. I think the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Giants are in an excellent spot without trading Dex to
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Lawrence with the right move. They didn't want to pay him, fine,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: they have enough pieces on that defensive line. They need
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: two defensive players. I don't think they go receiver. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: think you get go, get styles, go get Caleb Downs,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: call it a day, and in two defensive players from
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a good defense.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I think that's the move.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: So I actually the Giants are going to be interesting,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and I think the Browns are going to be interesting.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I think where Jeremiah Love is going to be interesting.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: But you know, outside of it will be a good draft.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: The thing is there's not a lot of quarterbacks, so
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: people are not necessarily in tune. Outside of Ty Simpson,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: nobody's really in tune about who's going to trade up.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Those are the guys who really make big moves.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: To trade up for.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It's like a high level quarterback or the Travis Hunters
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: of the ward, which this draft doesn't have.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So Mikey just dawned on me. Chris Sim's going to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: join us tomorrow. And Colin is a Jags fan. He's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a Jags fan, Hornets fan, an A's fan, and an
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Islander fan.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: He makes me feel good about my fandom somehow.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But it just thought we could ask him the question
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that we've asked Chris Simms for years now, Trevor Lawrence.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Is he good?
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: That's the answer. That's the answer. He's in between. He's
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: in between.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I like Lawrence. There's another good example. You gotta deal
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: with his BS and he's not. It's not that off the.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Field you deal with BS on the field.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You deal with this, you know, dropping back in the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: pocket and nobody strips him and he just loses the ball,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and then it's bubble turnover in the first quarter. You're
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: gonna deal with that because then all of a sudden,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: you know, on the third quarter, we're third and eleven
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: on a huge drive, He'll roll out left and fire
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: a dark twenty five yards down the field. Who was thinking,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, who can make that?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: That's him.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: That's what he does.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've learned to love it. It's the Trevor Lawrence experience.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: You watch a jack scam. You did the Jack the
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Bill playoff game is a good example that you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Watch a jag scam. You see the highs and lows,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: the rollercoaster. He a roller coaster quarterback.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yes he really is.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But your response was the perfect response because no one
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: really has an answer.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's up and down.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what do you make of the Mets?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Here are the Mets ever gonna win again?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Colin?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do we do?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: So what's the level here of when the Mets would
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: make a change, Let's say, get rid of.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Mendoza my manager right now, Carlos Mendoza, Mike Brown, that's
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: the real question.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good right now,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't it. It's a little early, but I mean, I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: think there's only been like three teams in the history
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: of baseball that I've ever lost eleven in a row
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and have made the postseason. I mean, the Mets have
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the thing about these teams that you see throughout baseball. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers keep adding, but there's a lot of continuity.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: The Yankees are good about that. The Yankees keep a
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: lot of continuity with the team.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Whether you like it or not.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Yankee fans would say that drives you nuts. But at
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: the very least, like you have the Bellingers, the Judges
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of the world. The Stanton's always been there. You know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they have a couple of pieces, Ben Rice who didn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: put out, Garrett Cole Rodon's now been there for a
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: couple of years. They have continuity, right, They changed the outsides.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: That's what the Dodgers do. The Mets, outside of Lindor
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: have really gutted a lot of the identity of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: team pretty much every single year for the last three
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: or four years. And you know, they had they tried
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the Erlinder Shuzer experiment and that completely blow up in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: their face. Then they had that little underdog mentality in
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: twenty four where you know, they get into this postseason
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: in game one, sixty three and against Atlanta. They have
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: that awesome series against Milwaukee where Alonzo hits the game
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: winner in Game three, so they had all that a
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: game winner, they walk off in game three and they
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: They have this little underog ittality.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Then they turn around, they're the biggest spenders in free
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: agency and now the America's rich team, and they get
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Soda and Soda doesn't.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Really pick it up.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: They do this, They do that, They let Alonzo walk,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: who was a fixture of that team. They get Peralta
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: in there, they bring in Bashett now he's playing out
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: of position.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: It's just they have two much change.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: There's nothing consistent about the Mets, and therefore you're not
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: going to get consistent results. This is not a buy
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: a build a team in the year. It's not college football,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: it's not college basketball. This is the Major League Baseball
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: where you need to, in my opinion, have some continuity
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: year in a year out, because that's what determines whether
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: a team is consistent or not.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: The Phillies.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Phillis about a lot of the same guys, and the
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Phillies are not playing well right now, but they've been
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: a fixture of the postseason. The Braves are another good
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: example of this. They didn't necessarily they got rid of
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: the skipper, they didn't blow up the roster, and because
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: they got they know, they got guys, and the Mets
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: have good players.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I would get rid of Mendoza.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I would maybe give it to some point in late May,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: if there's still you know, head games back.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I think we're having a conversation. But they got a
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: home stretch here.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: They got like the the Nationals, they got the Twins,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: they got beatable teams on the Rockies.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would say that the Vets need to You
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: need to.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Get out of that at you know, winning most of
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: those games. You know the next nine you got to
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: go six and three, seven and two. If you don't
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: do that, you come out of that. You know there's
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: three and seven. Mendoza's to be the first to go.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you give him this week
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: to try to turn it around.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: David Searns, the team's president of baseball operations, met with
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: the media before the CUB series on Friday, and he said,
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I think Mendy's doing a really good job. He's putting
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: our players in a position to succede. He's enormously consistent.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I don't think you could fire a coach a week
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: after giving him that kind of vote of confidence, right,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: But at some point, if the if the losing streak,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: even if the losing street doesn't continue, if you keep
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: losing to two out of three to some of these
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: bad teams, at some point you kind of have to
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: put your foot down and be like, even if you
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: don't believe it's Mendoza's fault, somebody has to be held
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: accountable for this.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why he's saying it. Well, he's saying, no,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you can't do it now. But if they go three
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and six over the next nine, which is another week,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: we can change that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: You can fire him after making those comments.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: At home too.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: At home, yes, yeah, And you've you've you've changed your
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the core of your team, You've changed some coaches. The
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: last thing that you really haven't changed is Stearns and Mendoza.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: And if if push comes to shove, Sterns is shoving
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Mendoza in front of this train.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It's it's the worst franchise you could possibly lose these
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: games because not only the Nets fans expect it because the.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Mets were always met.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: But the thing about it is there is now the
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: off I don't know how true this is. I believe
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: this was the Francissa thing that came out with Lindoor
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and the political the clubhouse differences that stemmed because of
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Francisco Lindor and then Brandon Nemo now turns into Ted
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Williams with Texas and we got we bring back in
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Marcus Simeon. There's a shell of himself, one more good player,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: but you know, a shell of himself. And then now
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: that it just looks that much worse. I don't know
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: what they do in terms of how quickly they make
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a change. I would have to imagine it. It's another
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks before they really do something drastic. But
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: you know what's funny about Stearns to you mentioned him,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: he left the Brewers, the people, the Cubs it with Counsel.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: They got Greig Counsel from the Brewers, And I'm saying
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: this happens with a lot of these small market great.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Teams they got.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: The counsel went to the Cubs, and then Stearns went
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: to the Mets, and the Bruis are still good. So
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: it's maybe it's a little less about the guys actually
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: running the show more about the actual stability of the franchise.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: It is crazy to say that because counsels with the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Cubs the less success comparatively to what Pat Murphy did
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: with the Bruce. David Stearns took over a big shop,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: was playing moneyball with the Brewis and now has to
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: play monopoly with the Mets, and it's a whole different
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: ballgame for him. It's not like the small market guy
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: is going to be excellent once you give him all
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the money in the world. So it's harder to run
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: a team, you know. A former Steve Phillips used to
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: say that it's sometimes hard to un a team when
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: you have unlimited money comparatively to win you're on a budget.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you brought up Steve Phillips because your
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: dad owes me two guests from his rollodecks and he
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: keeps he keeps floating Steve Phillips by me and just
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: do me a favorite. Tell him I don't want Steve Phillips. Okay,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have the heart to tell him.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Colin.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: He loves street folks.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: He has him on a lot, I know, which is
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: why I don't want him on.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I want, I want him Nance, I want. I told
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: him I wanted dance, so his response to me.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Was, hey, I reached out to dance, but he decided
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to go on with McAfee.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He doesn't get mad steadies. I don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: think he got Nance for the Master's Week. I don't
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: think he did.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: He did it. No, he did it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So I drive home at five and I'm listening to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: him on the air and he's blasted Eddie, get me worry,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, listen, I got his number because
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I knew because me and I had him on time,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and I have his number, and I'm like, dog, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: have his number, get me Nance.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, trade, I'll trade you the numbers. Get me Nancy's number,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I get your rorys. That's the one way to do it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: So good four to six every day, Monday through Friday.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Uh, ESPN West Palm. What do you leave the show
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: with today?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: You're probably doing the NIXT today, you know, it's South Florida, Stewart,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you know this like you know it's.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: You're in New York in West pom.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Here essentially in New York City. So you're definitely doing
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the next today to start. But it's interesting because this
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: is not Dolphins country in this is nixt country. But
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: like there's a lot of Philly fans, there's a lot
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: of Boston fans, so you have you can creatively do its.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: You sort of treat like a national program like Fox Sports.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: So yes, you do it like that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: So uh, but I'll probably do the next today to start.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Now, let me ask you this.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I'm curious, did the Fox Sports guys who do the
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: national lineup do they come on with you guys?
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You mean like cow Patrick Howard?
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Have you had Patrick? Have you had those guys?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: No, I spent my time.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Well, we've had Ai, Colin Cowherd on he's on the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports app. Yes, we make fun of Colin Cowherd.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Dan Patrick is a friend of mine. He's been on
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the show before and I'm certainly have asked him he
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: would do it again.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But to answer your question, the only two we've had
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: on LeVar Arrington and Brady Quin that's it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, what about the TV GUYSH TV guys.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: We have not had any sort of success with any
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: of the TV guys.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Haven't to know.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't really in Mangenie Man Genie, Yeah we had
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Man Jeanie.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I guess Sandy Parkins. Yeah, but who are you thinking?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I tell me who you're thinking.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking of the guys out loud of
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: but so TV. I'm surprised, you know you didn't try
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: for Nick right, eventually, I guess Teddy Parkins makes sense?
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know Willdess Uh?
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Who else is on that?
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, Nix's a friend.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: If I asked Nick, he's gonna say, yes, I was.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, like Brady, you know yeah,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: oh yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know about That's a good point.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: You could ask for Brady. You you can't ask for Brady.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, we should.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: He's good with the Fox guys. He's going to the
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Fox guys.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I know we're gonna ask for bra Brady's been on
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: before as well.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: He was on the same time Worry was on.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I think, oh, hey, geez, can get Brady. Give give
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: me Brady somewhere. We can get him on Rush Riz.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: That would be worth it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Listen, you go into your dad's phone and you get
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: me jim Nance's number, and I'll get Brady on for you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: All right, well, well we'll figure that out.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I can figure that, Mike.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: He's like, what do you do?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You would know? But there's a whole lot of empty
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: promises happening right now.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: By the way, chance I can get you Nancy, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: you can get me Brady, I'm gonna well, listen, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: can get you Jay Glazer.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, all right, well we'll take Jake Glazier.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: We'll take Jay Blazer. That's a safe bet. We could
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: take Lazer.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, your dad ruined all my golf relationships here in
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: South Florida.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I mean he tour board Deer Creek apart. I mean.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: He went right after the courses. He played you for
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the weather.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he blamed me, Brendan. He definitely took a gummy
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Check him out four to six pm Eastern every day, ESPN,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: West Palm. He's fantastic. I'm glad we did this, Colin.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you for doing it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it, guys. As always, I appreciate it and Taylor,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Mike two, got you.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Guys do a great job.