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- Byron: We spoke a few weeks ago about that meeting they had in London where they want to turn scrums into malls. Do you think this is not a good alternative for those fucking animals that want to get rid of the scrums? Chad: I don't know what it is, Byron. It's not good. That's all I know. Byron: So that means those representatives from Australia and New Zealand that were asking for scrums to be turned into malls, instead of fighting about it, you just go, ⁓ at this point, there'll be three, four scrums a game. Chad: Can you imagine how confusing it must be for to be like a new person coming into rugby in the States watching the MRL watching no scrums and then you go watch an international game and there's it's a completely different game. Everyone will be like what. Byron: Well, for now, but let's fast forward two, three years, maybe that's the new place of rugby union because that's what everyone seems to be asking for. I don't know why you and I are fighting for rugby union to stay rugby union. We're nobody and we're the only ones talking about this that I know of. I'm sure there's other people, like it hasn't gained any traction. Chad: No, ⁓ it cannot be, no. Yeah. That's... that's... feral. Oh, it... yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to justify it. I don't know why, but like, maybe it's just for the American market? To get people in? I don't know. Byron: See, I would kind of take on that argument if it wasn't for the fact that they had that thing in London and they're trying to get rid of scrums actively from all over the place and from top nations, Australia, New Zealand, top nations asking for scrums to be changed or for there to be less of them in order to speed up the game. ⁓ watch fucking league, leave union alive. Don't get, killing me. Chad: What does that mean for... What happens to the players that play in the states and won the regular cups in the states in 2031? Now the MRL is going to be playing this, you can only assume, for two, three seasons before they make an actual decision. Say they carry on like that and then they go and get selected for the USA side and then they Byron: Well then I'll have the smallest props and the worst scrum. Chad: Yeah, and then they join and they go play the box and get absolutely, or Italy, and get absolutely manhandled and injured probably because they won't know how to scrub. It's arguably more dangerous for the game. Byron: Scotland's scrum is fantastic at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes, if this doesn't catch on everywhere else. Because if this catches on everywhere else, you lose all of these fantastic players because you don't wanna have Ox and Chair in your team. You rather wanna get ⁓ a nimble prop that can do these fantastic breaks down the wing or whatever it might be. Chad: Thanks, Byron. You've upset me and it's been what? Where's the time? Nine minutes and 40 seconds. Byron: Yeah, think about it. I've had this on my mind since before we missed recording last week. So I've been, I've been, it's been building in me to talk about this. Chad: That is feral. That is... no good. Byron: And like I said, the big fear that I have is not, okay, this is just the MLR, it's not gonna take off. Kinda like what we spoke about with Varsity Cup, it was just in the Varsity Cup, we don't think it's gonna take off. The problem is there's a movement prior to this to minimize the number of scrums. Now the MLR have gone, FUGG it, let's try this. If the rest of the... Chad: Yeah. Byron: people that are working in the background to get rid of scrums, look at this, they go, well, this is not a bad alternative. Horrid, horrible, absolutely horrible. Chad: I wonder