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FULL SHOW: Chris Brown Demands Receipts After Journalist Claims He's 'Still Actively Abusing Women’ + Jon Boogz & Morgan DeBaun Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 4: How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black, and
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Speaker 4: highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve
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Speaker 4: our beautiful listeners.
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Speaker 5: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Jess. How you feeling?
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Speaker 6: I feel good. You know, I caught a flight from
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Speaker 6: EWR to DCA yesterday, and whatever was going on the
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Speaker 6: day before yesterday with the flights, I mean, with the airport,
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Speaker 6: it was like a power outage or something like that.
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Speaker 7: Power outage, yeah.
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Speaker 2: All the flights were delayed over a thousand flights, yep.
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Speaker 6: Yes, yo, I felt the aftermath of that yesterday, right?
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Speaker 6: Because I was supposed to land, my flight was at 1,
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Speaker 6: I was supposed to land at 2, like 2 something.
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Speaker 6: My flight was delayed 4 hours and then it was
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Speaker 6: so packed yesterday. I flew on a Tuesday. It's not
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Speaker 6: usually packed in EWR on a Tuesday. It was so
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Speaker 6: many backed up flights from Monday. that everybody who was
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Speaker 6: supposed to fly out Tuesday was just making their flights.
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Speaker 6: It was people that had to sleep in the airports.
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Speaker 6: It was so packed. It looked like a Friday at JFK.
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Speaker 2: Jess, Baltimore's three hours away.
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Speaker 4: You're saying she could have got on the train?
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Speaker 2: She could have got on the train. She could have drove.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I didn't want to do that.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So it might have taken
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Speaker 2: you six hours to get there anyway.
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Speaker 6: Because I don't live in Baltimore. I live past Baltimore.
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean? So driving my house is
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Speaker 6: like five and a half hours away. from Jersey City
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Speaker 6: or New York, right?
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Speaker 4: Gotcha.
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Speaker 6: So just flying is like an hour and 10 minutes.
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Speaker 4: Well, has the FAA resolved all those issues?
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Speaker 1: I know they had to repair throughout the communication lines.
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Speaker 4: Has all that been repaired?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they resolved the issues. The problem was
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Speaker 2: that everybody that missed their flight, their flights got pushed back,
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Speaker 2: which pushed back everybody else's flights.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 2: So it just makes the airports disgusted and nasty for
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Speaker 2: the next couple of days.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad we didn't have any problems leaving Vegas
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Speaker 4: this weekend.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what's up. Well, it happened after we got back, so.
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Speaker 2: So how was everything in Maryland?
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Speaker 6: Everything was good in Merlin. We landed. DCA, I guess,
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Speaker 6: wasn't affected by it. It was like a ghost town
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Speaker 6: in DCA. But EWR looked like a family reunion. It
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Speaker 6: was so many people everywhere.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's that time of year, man. It's the parents'
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Speaker 1: back-to-school nights for most of us. When you got multiple kids,
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Speaker 1: the back-to-school nights are on different days. Last week, I
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Speaker 1: had back-to-school night for the 4-year-old and the 8-year-old. And tonight,
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Speaker 1: I got back-to-school night for the 11-year-old.
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Speaker 6: Right, that's what's going on with my son's school. You know,
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Speaker 6: he's in high school, so I cannot miss.
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Speaker 2: His back-to-school night.
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Speaker 6: Back-to-school is tonight.
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Speaker 2: Back-to-school is tonight. Thank you for reminding me.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you.
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Speaker 2: Damn, you forgot, Envy? No, I'm sure my wife is
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Speaker 2: going to tell me later, but I just forgot. She
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Speaker 2: just tells me where to go and what time. Be
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Speaker 2: here this time.
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Speaker 1: I got family, whatever you call it, family parent weekend
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Speaker 1: at college coming up soon.
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Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's the first year they usually do it up.
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Speaker 2: First weekend in October, usually. And salute to Dr. Puma.
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Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 2: Puma from Soarin' Medical.
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Speaker 4: My guy.
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Speaker 2: I just want to tell you guys, you should definitely,
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Speaker 2: if you're in town or you want to fly into town,
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Speaker 2: check out Dr. Puma with Soarin' Medical.
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Speaker 4: Soarin' Medical scan, baby.
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Speaker 2: They do a heart scan. They do a full body
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Speaker 2: scan to see everything from head to toe, whether they
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Speaker 2: can see... your arteries in your heart, your veins, to
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Speaker 2: see if there's any blood clots, to see if there's
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Speaker 2: any clots or any tumors.
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Speaker 4: Early signs of heart disease.
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Speaker 2: Early signs of heart disease, even signs of cancer. Plaques, calcification.
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Speaker 2: And when I say you need to go check it
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Speaker 2: or take your parents or take your wife or take
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Speaker 2: your uncles, take your aunts, I know a lot of
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Speaker 2: older people, they, I'm with my doctor. No, trust me. Yesterday,
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Speaker 2: I took my parents there yesterday. And my dad was
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Speaker 2: the one that was always, now I got my own doctor.
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Speaker 2: But after he spoke to Dr. Puma, he was like, yo, Dr.
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Speaker 2: Puma really cares.
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Speaker 4: He'll put your mind at ease.
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Speaker 1: Whatever anxiety you're dealing with, especially when you hear about
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Speaker 1: other people having coronary issues. Cardiovascular issues, he will put
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Speaker 1: your mind at ease. Yes, because he just doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to solve the problem.
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Speaker 2: He wants to know why the problem occurred, why it happened.
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Speaker 2: He goes through your history. He's not one of those
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Speaker 2: doctors that will be like, you know, oh, you got
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Speaker 2: 10 minutes, 10 minutes is all you got. No, he
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Speaker 2: will stay there for you for hours to talk to
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Speaker 2: you and make you feel comfortable.
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Speaker 6: And he'd be excited about it, too.
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Speaker 7: Yes, he does.
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Speaker 6: He wants to inform you on what's going on in
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Speaker 6: your body.
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Speaker 4: I love Dr.
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Speaker 5: Boone.
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Speaker 2: So if you get a chance... Please take you, your wife,
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Speaker 2: your family members, please take them to Dr.
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Speaker 9: Puma.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday I was there, just quickly, I ran into somebody
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Speaker 2: from Switzerland who listens to The Breakfast Club from Switzerland.
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Speaker 9: Nice.
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Speaker 2: He was here for a week on vacation. He wanted
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Speaker 2: to get the procedure done in Switzerland. They declined him
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Speaker 2: and denied him. So when he was here... He actually
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Speaker 2: got it done at Soarin' Medical. So he heard us.
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Speaker 2: He went there and got the full body scan. He
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Speaker 2: was there with his kids yesterday just to make sure
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Speaker 2: he would be healthy to raise his kids. And I
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Speaker 2: just thought that was good.
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Speaker 4: Dropping the clues behind for Dr.
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Speaker 9: Puma.
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Speaker 1: The only other doctor that excites him to be like
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Speaker 1: this is his urologist because he's the prostate doctor.
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Speaker 2: Colonoscopy. You don't got to do that no more. I
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Speaker 2: got an appointment with him two weeks. I said it yesterday.
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Speaker 6: Calm down because you don't even got to get stuck
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Speaker 6: in your butt no more. Don't you do it differently?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get the blood. I got the blood last week.
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Speaker 2: That's what I say. Not for colonoscopy, though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not for the colonoscopy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I say.
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Speaker 10: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: I got to do that in three to four years. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: just to check. But anyway. All right, well, let's get
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Speaker 2: the show cracking. On the show, John Boogs will be
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Speaker 2: joining us. John Boogs is a street dancer. He's also
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Speaker 2: a director.
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Speaker 1: Man, he's got a great new short film called Remedy
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Speaker 1: in the Rhythm, and it's a really, really, really, really
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Speaker 1: great film about grief.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 2: He danced in the Michael Jackson film, Cirque du Soleil.
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Speaker 2: He was also in the movie. So we'll talk to
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Speaker 2: him about that. And Morgan DeBond, the CEO of Afrotech,
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Speaker 2: founding CEO and Blavity Incorporated. We're going to talk to
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Speaker 2: them as well. But let's get the show cracking. Today
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Speaker 2: is JD's birthday. Jermaine Dupri is what we start with.
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Speaker 5: Hey.
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Speaker 7: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think they like me, the Franchise Boys. The remix.
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Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, y'all. Get your ass up.
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Speaker 5: Morning, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy.
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Speaker 5: Just hilarious.
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Speaker 2: Y'all the only people.
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Speaker 1: That said somebody born, they didn't cut their verse off
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the song.
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Speaker 2: We ain't got time.
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Speaker 5: We ain't got time.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Well, good morning.
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news.
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Speaker 2: We ain't got much time for you, maybe. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 11: Damn.
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Speaker 4: God damn you. And Jermaine Dupree is 54. You hate Mimi.
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Speaker 5: That's crazy.
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Speaker 2: I don't hate Mimi. That's why I cut it off
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Speaker 2: so she can get on. What's up, Mimi?
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Speaker 12: Good morning, guys.
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Speaker 8: So we started this morning with a major escalation in
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Speaker 8: the fight over the white, the press access to the
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Speaker 8: White House. Now, Front Page is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan,
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Speaker 8: America's largest injury law firm. So overnight, the Justice Department,
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Speaker 8: they told a federal judge that President Trump can keep CNN, MSNOW,
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Speaker 8: and Politico out of certain areas of the White House.
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Speaker 8: The administration is now arguing, though, this is a point
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Speaker 8: of national security. They say reporting by these three outlets
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Speaker 8: on the Iran war. The White House construction is now
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Speaker 8: raising concerns that sensitive information could be exposed. And they
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Speaker 8: argue that reporters, they do have a First Amendment right
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Speaker 8: to report, but that does not give them the right
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Speaker 8: to be inside the White House. And the DOJ is
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Speaker 8: going even further, arguing that the president can decide who
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Speaker 8: gets into those restricted areas like the Oval Office. And
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Speaker 8: we saw this fight play out in real time yesterday
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Speaker 8: at the United Nations between Trump and CNN.
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Speaker 2: Let's listen. It's an honor to be here. I'm surprised
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Speaker 2: that CNN is here covering me.
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Speaker 5: You should not be here covering me.
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Speaker 2: You said you weren't going to cover me. You shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be covering me.
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Speaker 1: But I will tell you, it is an honor to.
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Speaker 6: Be at the United Nations, and we're making a lot
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Speaker 6: of progress.
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Speaker 13: Our country is doing.
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Speaker 3: Really, really well.
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Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind, the Justice Department, they're Trump's puppets
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Speaker 1: as well. OK, and I don't want nobody to think
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Speaker 1: that this is normal. The government should not get to
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Speaker 1: decide which journalists you're allowed to hear from. And then
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Speaker 1: volunteer itself is the replacement with Trump TV.
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Speaker 12: Correct.
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Speaker 8: Correct. And now this fight is, again, as I said, escalating.
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Speaker 8: It moves into court today. An emergency hearing is scheduled
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Speaker 8: where the three outlets are asking a federal judge to
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Speaker 8: immediately restore their White House access while the larger lawsuit
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Speaker 8: plays out.
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Speaker 12: So we'll continue to watch that this afternoon.
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Speaker 6: And you may want to.
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Speaker 12: Double check that you still have health insurance.
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Speaker 8: The Trump administration has canceled health insurance coverage for people
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Speaker 8: enrolled through the Affordable Care Act. That's Obamacare saying that
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Speaker 8: some of those people should not have been allowed health
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Speaker 8: care in the first place.
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Speaker 12: Here's J.D. Vance with just how many people have been affected.
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Speaker 5: Let's listen.
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Speaker 14: We are stopping Obamacare enrollment for about 750,000 people, 750,000
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Speaker 14: people who we believe are fraudulently enrolled in the program.
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Speaker 14: The second thing that we're going to do is we're
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Speaker 14: going to do some additional verification.
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Speaker 5: We expect that most of these.
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Speaker 14: People are fraudulently enrolled, but we're going to do some
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Speaker 14: additional verification on about 419,000 people enrolled. We're going to
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Speaker 14: make sure that they're, first of all, legal residents of
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Speaker 14: the United States of America. And second of all, we're
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Speaker 14: going to make sure that they actually meet the income
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Speaker 14: threshold requirements in order to receive these Obamacare benefits.
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Speaker 12: I was going.
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Speaker 15: To say the White House.
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Speaker 16: Says this is.
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Speaker 8: It's cracked down on fraud and improper enrollment, and they're
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Speaker 8: saying that they're saving the taxpayers about $ 2.
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Speaker 12: 2 billion in fraudulent health care sign-ups.
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Speaker 5: I guarantee.
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, this administration hates you. They want
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Speaker 1: to squeeze the life out of everybody. Nobody, you know,
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Speaker 1: canceling those individuals health care in that administration. And we
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Speaker 1: know that they do nothing surgical. I guarantee they didn't
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Speaker 1: measure twice to cut once on this. I bet you
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Speaker 1: plenty of people got their health care cut this morning
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Speaker 1: that actually have legal health care.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And yesterday I was talking to Dr.
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Speaker 9: Pullman.
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Speaker 2: He was saying that his biggest problem is. A lot
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Speaker 2: of these health care companies, especially like the Affordable Care Act,
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Speaker 2: they only give money towards certain treatments. So, for instance,
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Speaker 2: he was like he's treating somebody right now that is
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Speaker 2: still using the treatment from the 80s that they should.
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Speaker 2: be using the treatment from 2026 but it doesn't cover
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Speaker 2: the 2026 treatment so he so people still have to
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Speaker 2: take treatment from the 80s that they shouldn't be taking
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Speaker 2: which is insane.
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Speaker 8: Wow wow And really quickly, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
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Speaker 8: he is in New York and taking aim at Zoran Mandani,
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Speaker 8: Mayor Zoran Mandani. And he started, though, with a social
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Speaker 8: media post. Let's listen to what he had to say
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Speaker 8: about Mandani.
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Speaker 5: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Mandani, shame on you for supporting the Hamas terrorist monsters
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Speaker 3: who butchered our people. Shame on you for inciting riots
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Speaker 3: against New York Jews. I'm coming to the UN. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to tell the truth about our heroic soldiers, and
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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell the truth about you.
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Speaker 9: What we do know to actually be the truth when
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Speaker 9: it comes to the prime minister is that he is
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Speaker 9: the subject of an international criminal court arrest warrant for
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Speaker 9: alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. And as the
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Speaker 9: prime minister, he is the architect of a horrific genocide
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Speaker 9: against Palestinians.
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Speaker 2: Is he going to lock him up? Because I know
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Speaker 2: one time he said when he comes in, he.
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Speaker 8: Doesn't have the authority to do that. But Netanyahu is
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Speaker 8: scheduled to address the United Nations tomorrow. And he says
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Speaker 8: he plans to use his speech or part of that
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Speaker 8: speech to.
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Speaker 12: Speak on Mondani as well. So that's tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I do like the fact that Mondani expresses that, you know,
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Speaker 1: he is a war criminal and there is a warrant
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Speaker 1: for his arrest out there from the U.N.
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Speaker 4: Am I making this up?
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Speaker 7: Yep.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 9: Yep. Yep.
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Speaker 12: So that was his response.
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Speaker 8: All right, y'all, that hour was sponsored by Morgan & Morgan.
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Speaker 8: going to talk more on Nolan Wells and their family
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Speaker 8: and their response to that.
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Speaker 12: District DA that we spoke about yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It was the International Criminal Court that issued an arrest
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Speaker 1: warrant for Netanyahu.
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Speaker 4: Correct.
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Speaker 2: Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Speaker 2: We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 10: We can get on the phone right now. We'll tell
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Speaker 10: you what it is.
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Speaker 2: Hello, who's this? This is David Chapman calling from North Carolina.
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Speaker 17: LaGrange, North Carolina.
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Speaker 4: 252. What's up, 252? What's happening?
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Speaker 2: Get it off your chest. Hey, I just want to
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Speaker 2: say I need to get that Mastego hello in the rotation, man.
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Speaker 6: Hey.
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Speaker 10: My homeboy Josh, the producer for it, man.
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Speaker 18: For real.
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Speaker 2: I told him I was going to call. and let
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Speaker 2: y'all know to keep that in rotation, man.
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Speaker 4: Masego, hello, featuring Buju Bantan. Let's play it right now.
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Speaker 4: You know, Kirk Franklin.
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Speaker 5: Sampled her shorty low, too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sure did.
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Speaker 4: Kirk Franklin what? Kirk Franklin did that same shorty low sample.
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Speaker 4: This is a low sample. We're going to play it
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Speaker 4: right now. Get Masego hello on, Ray. We're going to
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Speaker 4: play that right now.
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Speaker 13: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 10: Thank y'all.
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Speaker 12: Thank y'all.
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Speaker 5: 252, stand up.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, brother.
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Speaker 2: Hello, who's this?
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Speaker 7: Hi, good morning. How are you guys?
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Speaker 2: Good morning. What's your name, my man?
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Speaker 7: My name is Ashley. I'm calling from Jersey.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Ashley.
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Speaker 10: So yesterday I was listening to you guys, and you
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Speaker 10: guys were talking about fibroids.
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Speaker 17: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 10: And I am a health development coach, and I'm also
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Speaker 10: a nurse for 15 years, and I coach black women.
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Speaker 7: And I think a lot of the time black women.
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Speaker 10: Miss two very important things when it comes to their health. Yes,
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Speaker 10: it's very important to eat well. It's very important to
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Speaker 10: work out. But also, we need to start thinking about
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Speaker 10: environmental toxins. The makeup, the hair, all these different things
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Speaker 10: that we're using, those endocrine disruptors, is causing all different
13:33
Speaker 10: types of health problems. So I challenge women to also
13:37
Speaker 10: think about their environment, their detergents, their lotions, their soaps,
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Speaker 10: all these different things that disrupt the endocrine system or
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Speaker 10: the hormone-producing system. The next thing that I find that
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Speaker 10: a lot of black women that I talk to have
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Speaker 10: a problem with is stress related illnesses, right? So like
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Speaker 10: we're carrying so much, we're working sometimes two and three
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Speaker 10: jobs to make ends meet. We're caring for our kids.
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Speaker 10: We're trying to care for our parents, our loved ones,
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Speaker 10: our spouses, and we neglect caring for ourselves. We forget
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Speaker 10: the importance of nervous system regulation. So again, Women need
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Speaker 10: to learn to slow down, take time for themselves, even
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Speaker 10: though it can be difficult. But you've got to get
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Speaker 10: up and give to yourself before you give to anybody else.
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Speaker 10: So I didn't hear anyone yesterday talk about that or
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Speaker 10: mention that it was all about food and watching the
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Speaker 10: meat and all that is important. But there are a
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Speaker 10: lot of other steps that women are missing. When I
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Speaker 10: talk to black women, they are super-duper stressed out, super
14:45
Speaker 10: burnt out. And we got to really, really start addressing
14:48
Speaker 10: those issues. Absolutely.
14:50
Speaker 4: I agree with you.
14:50
Speaker 1: We're going to have some experts in the field, you know,
14:54
Speaker 1: come up here and really do a deep dive on fibroids, man,
14:56
Speaker 1: because that conversation really resonated with a lot of people yesterday.
15:00
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
15:01
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15:07
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Speaker 7: My name is Nurse Coach Smith.
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15:14
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15:16
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15:19
Speaker 7: Because it's us with the black woman.
15:22
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15:24
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15:28
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15:34
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15:37
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15:47
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15:47
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15:50
Speaker 1: Coach Smith. Who was in here talking on my microphone, yo?
15:53
Speaker 1: I know what my breath smells like. You know what
15:55
Speaker 1: I'm saying?
15:55
Speaker 7: Damn.
15:56
Speaker 1: I can smell that somebody ain't had their teeth cleaned
15:59
Speaker 1: in a long time, that plaque got their gums bleeding.
16:02
Speaker 4: Who was in here talking on my microphone, yo? Y'all
16:04
Speaker 4: know we got cameras in here.
16:05
Speaker 6: Run the cameras back. You act like somebody's going to
16:07
Speaker 6: step up and be like, it was me.
16:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to just run the cameras back.
16:10
Speaker 2: Well, get it off your chest.
16:12
Speaker 6: 800-585-1051.
16:13
Speaker 2: We got the latest with Lauren coming up.
16:15
Speaker 4: What locker you got that jacket from?
16:17
Speaker 2: Delaware State University.
16:18
Speaker 15: People ain't hear you before.
16:20
Speaker 5: All right.
16:20
Speaker 15: Good morning, y'all.
16:21
Speaker 4: That's LL Cool B and Lauren LaRosa.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
16:24
Speaker 4: I definitely can smell that jacket. I must be pregnant.
16:25
Speaker 4: I can smell all types of stuff.
16:26
Speaker 15: First of all, you don't smell this jacket.
16:29
Speaker 4: I definitely smell that jacket.
16:30
Speaker 15: This is not like a fresh out the locker brand
16:31
Speaker 15: new jacket.
16:32
Speaker 2: You never wear it.
16:32
Speaker 5: Oh, I get it.
16:33
Speaker 2: I understand. I understand.
16:35
Speaker 15: Yeah.
16:36
Speaker 2: Sean Jackson stopping later. That's why she wear that because
16:37
Speaker 2: she never wear no Delaware stuff.
16:39
Speaker 15: I just got this, though, maybe like a month ago,
16:41
Speaker 15: and it just got cold.
16:42
Speaker 2: You never wear no Delaware stuff.
16:43
Speaker 15: I got this for a feature that I'm doing. Y'all
16:45
Speaker 15: see it soon in a magazine.
16:47
Speaker 5: Hey!
16:48
Speaker 6: Hey, HBCU, baby.
16:50
Speaker 15: Y'all see it.
16:50
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
16:52
Speaker 15: Stop playing with LL Cool B. But wait, we do
16:54
Speaker 15: got the latest coming up, y'all. Speaking of magazines and journalists,
16:59
Speaker 15: Chris Brown, he is not playing about.
17:01
Speaker 6: His name anymore.
17:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, salute to Chris Brown.
17:03
Speaker 15: He sees everything. All right, we're going to get into it.
17:05
Speaker 15: He is out here correcting stuff himself. No publicist, no nothing.
17:09
Speaker 1: Y'all about to start working for Chris Brown because I'm
17:11
Speaker 1: sick of the Chris Brown slander.
17:12
Speaker 6: Exactly.
17:13
Speaker 1: You got to let people grow, man. You got to
17:15
Speaker 1: give people grace. And y'all only bring up the foolishness
17:18
Speaker 1: when y'all want to.
17:19
Speaker 5: It's picking and choosing. It's weird to me.
17:22
Speaker 7: Crazy.
17:22
Speaker 2: Makes no sense.
17:23
Speaker 15: But we'll talk about it.
17:24
Speaker 2: We'll get into it next. It's the Breakfast Club.
17:25
Speaker 10: Good morning.
17:26
Speaker 1: Hey, can I salute my guy, little Duval man, little Duval?
17:29
Speaker 1: His movie, Camp Duval, Ain't Nobody Dying Today, is coming
17:34
Speaker 1: out soon. But he's premiering it in different cities.
17:36
Speaker 7: Yes.
17:36
Speaker 1: And so if you go to CampDuval.com, you can see
17:39
Speaker 1: where he's going to be at. He's actually going to
17:40
Speaker 1: be in Alabama tomorrow.
17:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
17:43
Speaker 1: Alabama tomorrow at the premier Lux Cinema GSX. in Pizza
17:48
Speaker 1: Pub at 6.30 p.m. So go to campduval.com.
17:51
Speaker 2: I've seen him do one in Jacksonville.
17:52
Speaker 4: He did one in Jacksonville?
17:53
Speaker 6: Shout out to Duval.
17:54
Speaker 15: And we also did a full conversation on the latest
17:56
Speaker 15: with Lauren Rosa, the podcast, about the business behind the movie.
18:00
Speaker 15: And this being his first, like, big film, horror film that.
18:03
Speaker 9: He's put out.
18:03
Speaker 1: And he funded it himself and everything. Sleuth of My Guy, Eric,
18:06
Speaker 1: at Swish Films. You know, they sent a bunch of
18:08
Speaker 1: merchandise up here and everything. Sleuth of My Guy, Duval.
18:10
Speaker 2: Sleuth of Duval. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
18:14
Speaker 2: All right, guys. So let's talk about Chris Brown.
18:16
Speaker 15: Um, So yesterday, Chris Brown decided to clear some things
18:45
Speaker 15: up about his name. There was a journalist. His name
18:47
Speaker 15: is David Dennis Jr. He's a senior writer for Enscape
18:51
Speaker 15: that posted a video a week ago in response to
18:54
Speaker 15: Chris Brown and some of the, you know, the conversation
18:56
Speaker 15: that people were having about the tour and Jasmine Croc
18:58
Speaker 15: and all the things. Let's take a listen to the
19:00
Speaker 15: video that Davis Dennis Jr.
19:02
Speaker 7: Posted.
19:05
Speaker 17: When I think about Chris Brown fans, you ask them, hey,
19:07
Speaker 17: why do you like Chris Brown? And they say things like, well,
19:10
Speaker 17: he only brutally assaulted Rihanna two decades ago when he
19:13
Speaker 17: apologized for it. And they kind of don't really acknowledge
19:16
Speaker 17: the fact that, yeah, he's still actively abusing women to
19:21
Speaker 17: this day and kind of never stopped. And when you
19:23
Speaker 17: kind of make these excuses. You sound worse. So I
19:26
Speaker 17: just think that if you love Chris Brown, love him
19:29
Speaker 17: for who he is, because that's a real sign of love.
19:32
Speaker 17: Love him while he's abusing. And just be honest with yourself.
19:36
Speaker 17: Say that man backflips so good. I don't care that
19:39
Speaker 17: he abuses women. I love his music more than I
19:43
Speaker 17: care about how he abuses women.
19:45
Speaker 5: Just say it.
19:46
Speaker 1: Hey, David Dennis Jr., your feelings are not facts like
19:49
Speaker 1: there is a legitimate. journalistic ethics problem with the way
19:53
Speaker 1: you reported that you can't declare something as an established
19:57
Speaker 1: fact like if you bring up his history and say
19:59
Speaker 1: chris has had multiple allegations of violence against women since
20:02
Speaker 1: rihanna That's accurate, but it's still an allegation to say
20:06
Speaker 1: he's still actively abusing women to this day and kind
20:10
Speaker 1: of never stopped.
20:12
Speaker 4: You have to prove that.
20:13
Speaker 1: Where is the evidence that Chris is still actively abusing
20:16
Speaker 1: women to this day and kind of never stopped?
20:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very dangerous. And especially if you call
20:22
Speaker 2: yourself a journalist, if you don't cite your sources, if
20:24
Speaker 2: you don't have proof, if you don't have evidence, because
20:26
Speaker 2: what happens is what's happening now. That sucker will. That
20:29
Speaker 2: issue will go around and Chris will start losing all
20:31
Speaker 2: types of stuff based off an accusation that hasn't been
20:35
Speaker 2: found true. And by the way, you can talk about
20:37
Speaker 2: his allegations, right?
20:38
Speaker 1: But you can't turn that into he's actively abusing women
20:44
Speaker 1: to this day.
20:44
Speaker 6: How you come to that conclusion?
20:46
Speaker 4: Where's the evidence to that?
20:48
Speaker 15: Well, let's because Chris Brown came into the comments to
20:50
Speaker 15: defend himself. Let's listen. I mean, we don't have a video.
20:53
Speaker 15: It's an actual comment. I'll read it. So Chris Brown says, hey, brother,
20:57
Speaker 15: can you show me where I'm actively abusing women to
20:59
Speaker 15: this day? Not allegedly, not I heard. Criminality is public
21:03
Speaker 15: information when you are convicted of something. So, hey, my
21:06
Speaker 15: good brother, please print some receipts for your claim. What
21:09
Speaker 15: abuse charges, violence against women currently and over the last
21:13
Speaker 15: 17 years have I been convicted of? I want you
21:15
Speaker 15: to show me those charges and convictions. Love your message,
21:18
Speaker 15: but you are clearly misinformed or you believe any headline
21:20
Speaker 15: without facts. Must be from all the toxic shows you
21:25
Speaker 15: speak of watching. Hope this helps your journalism. God bless,
21:28
Speaker 15: and good day, my brother.
21:29
Speaker 6: There we go. He is so mature, too. He is growing.
21:33
Speaker 6: Because of a Chris Brown? Would have been like, yo,
21:36
Speaker 6: where you at?
21:38
Speaker 2: Would have been SMD. You know what I mean?
21:40
Speaker 6: Yeah.
21:41
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
21:42
Speaker 15: Yeah, so then David, the journalist, he posted, he screenshotted
21:45
Speaker 15: Chris Brown's comment in his Insta story. He put, sure, dot, dot.
21:49
Speaker 15: He then responded to Chris Brown in the comments. He says, okay, well,
21:52
Speaker 15: as a journalist, it's good to get the info directly
21:54
Speaker 15: from the source. Let's get it from the source himself.
21:56
Speaker 15: You never laid a finger on or harmed any woman
21:59
Speaker 15: in the past 17 years, not once, not a single time,
22:02
Speaker 15: question mark. Now you're questioning me?
22:04
Speaker 6: No, this is not an interview.
22:06
Speaker 15: Every accusation in restraining order is false. Just want to
22:09
Speaker 15: be clear. Yeah, so... Just want.
22:12
Speaker 6: To be clear.
22:13
Speaker 12: See, that's what he need to get hit in his
22:14
Speaker 12: little ass mouth.
22:15
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
22:16
Speaker 4: We're not encouraging violence, Jess. But see.
22:19
Speaker 1: I don't like that because I don't like how Dennis
22:22
Speaker 1: tried to put the burden on Chris to prove the
22:25
Speaker 1: claim false.
22:26
Speaker 4: No, sir, Dennis, you made the claim. So you need
22:29
Speaker 4: to provide evidence for.
22:30
Speaker 2: The claim you published. You haven't touched.
22:32
Speaker 9: What?
22:33
Speaker 2: This is about me. Now you're interviewing me.
22:34
Speaker 4: You can't put the burden on me.
22:36
Speaker 2: You made the claim.
22:37
Speaker 12: That's right.
22:38
Speaker 4: It ain't up to me to prove it false. It's
22:39
Speaker 4: up to you to prove it true. You know, if
22:41
Speaker 4: Chris Tunes breaks off that guy, that's on his. He
22:43
Speaker 4: earned that one.
22:44
Speaker 2: But like I said you sue somebody it costs you
22:47
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars and I don't know the
22:49
Speaker 2: brother but what does he have you sue him and
22:52
Speaker 2: you wind up spending more money than anything in the.
22:53
Speaker 1: World and this is why Chris got a dog and
22:55
Speaker 1: this is why some people deserve to get.
22:57
Speaker 6: Bit sometimes no no come on because that lady probably
23:01
Speaker 6: listening and she's like oh my god he's not.
23:03
Speaker 1: Talking about that young lady he's talking about that's why
23:06
Speaker 1: somebody so you want people have dogs Lauren is what
23:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying so you're saying if this gentleman went to
23:10
Speaker 1: Chris's house and Chris's dog bit this guy I don't.
23:13
Speaker 4: Think he going there You see what I'm saying?
23:17
Speaker 15: I think when you had this conversation with Chris Brown
23:20
Speaker 15: and people talk about, you know, the Rihanna stuff and
23:22
Speaker 15: anything else moving forward, they point to things, but it's
23:25
Speaker 15: like you have to provide full context around certain things. And,
23:28
Speaker 15: you know, even when. He mentions the restraining order thing.
23:31
Speaker 15: We know that that's like he's talking about Carucci, the
23:34
Speaker 15: 2017 incident. Like that's all that is.
23:36
Speaker 4: Those are accurate, factual things. If you're talking about his history.
23:39
Speaker 9: Yeah.
23:40
Speaker 1: But even then, you know, you still have to say
23:42
Speaker 1: those are those are allegations for the most part. But
23:44
Speaker 1: when you say this line, he's still actively abusing women
23:50
Speaker 1: to this day and kind of never stopped.
23:53
Speaker 4: You got to prove that.
23:54
Speaker 15: Actively, it would seem current.
23:55
Speaker 2: That is insane without proof. You got to prove that.
23:58
Speaker 2: That is insane without proof, without evidence, without some type
24:00
Speaker 2: of police reports, without the young lady. Like, you have
24:02
Speaker 2: to prove that. You just can't be jumping out and
24:03
Speaker 2: just saying that.
24:04
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
24:04
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, because the last one that I can
24:07
Speaker 15: remember was in 2022 when Chris Brown was accused of
24:10
Speaker 15: some things and the woman filed that $ 20 million lawsuit,
24:12
Speaker 15: but then it was dismissed immediately. on procedural grounds without prejudice.
24:16
Speaker 15: So it could be pursued in the future. But the
24:19
Speaker 15: plaintiff at the time said that they weren't going to,
24:21
Speaker 15: but could have. But the Carucci situation, remember there was
24:24
Speaker 15: a restraining order that was granted. So I think people
24:26
Speaker 15: use that.
24:26
Speaker 6: They kept trying to get her back. Popping up where
24:29
Speaker 6: she was to get her back.
24:30
Speaker 15: And they're like, okay, boom, this is it.
24:32
Speaker 6: Let's talk about what actually happened. You know what I mean?
24:35
Speaker 6: Trying to get this girl back.
24:36
Speaker 1: And we're not trying to christen the court of public
24:38
Speaker 1: opinion because I don't know what he's guilty of or
24:40
Speaker 1: not guilty of. I'm just talking about david dennis jr
24:43
Speaker 1: and his responsibility as a journalist like you can't just
24:48
Speaker 1: make a claim like that with no proof or no.
24:51
Speaker 2: Evidence and if he is he is a journalist right
24:53
Speaker 2: because you if you go to his page you see
24:54
Speaker 2: him doing a bunch of things but i've seen him
24:56
Speaker 2: before but my whole thing is he would not like
24:59
Speaker 2: it if somebody did it to him right without having
25:01
Speaker 2: proof and like charlamagne said if you had the proof
25:04
Speaker 2: if you had the evidence then it is what it
25:05
Speaker 2: is but you just can't make a statement without having
25:08
Speaker 2: facts and as a journalist he.
25:09
Speaker 15: Knows that yeah you just provide a more detailed like
25:12
Speaker 15: breakdown of what exactly you're talking about and where it's
25:14
Speaker 15: coming from and then I mean that's your argument if you're.
25:16
Speaker 1: Going to say that I'm in present tense that's still
25:20
Speaker 1: actively abusing women and kind of never stopped you gotta
25:25
Speaker 1: prove that and then when I call you out on
25:27
Speaker 1: it don't put the burden on me to prove the
25:30
Speaker 1: claim is false you're the one who made the.
25:32
Speaker 6: Claim He was so excited that Chris Brown even responded
25:35
Speaker 6: back to him. That's crazy. He was so excited for that.
25:39
Speaker 4: That was crazy.
25:40
Speaker 7: Yeah.
25:41
Speaker 15: Well, Chris Brown is clearing things up and he ain't
25:43
Speaker 15: playing no more. He also posted on his Insta story
25:45
Speaker 15: after this that he don't want no friends. He ain't
25:48
Speaker 15: nobody friend. He hates the industry. It was a whole
25:51
Speaker 15: list of things that he said.
25:53
Speaker 11: So, yeah.
25:54
Speaker 6: Another day, another clown.
25:55
Speaker 15: That's where we leave this at.
25:56
Speaker 6: All right, y'all.
25:57
Speaker 15: That's the latest for the hour. And in next latest,
25:59
Speaker 15: we are going to be talking about Christmas and Mariah
26:02
Speaker 15: Carey because her number one. Streak just got taken away
26:06
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26:06
Speaker 4: It's the holiday season, yo!
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26:08
Speaker 2: It's the holiday season. I told you the other day,
26:10
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26:13
Speaker 5: You're like, no, no, don't you look.
26:14
Speaker 4: I still ain't seen none of that.
26:15
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
26:15
Speaker 6: I didn't say you was lying, yo. We just said
26:18
Speaker 6: we ain't seen none yet.
26:20
Speaker 9: No.
26:20
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26:44
Speaker 5: Morning, everybody.
26:44
Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front
26:46
Speaker 2: page news. Sadly, my New York Giants, it looks like
26:51
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark could miss the rest of the season.
26:54
Speaker 4: And he wasn't going to do nothing anyway.
26:55
Speaker 5: Yes, he was.
26:55
Speaker 2: We were going to the Super Bowl. After tests showed
26:58
Speaker 2: his knee injury is more severe than initially anticipated. Well,
27:01
Speaker 2: I hate to see people. I'm sorry, Envy.
27:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate to see people injured, but shout out
27:07
Speaker 4: to the Dallas Cowboys.
27:08
Speaker 2: Don't laugh.
27:08
Speaker 4: I'm dropping the clues behind for my squad. Don't laugh.
27:10
Speaker 2: It can happen to any of your players anytime.
27:12
Speaker 5: That is true.
27:13
Speaker 2: But Jackson Dawg wasn't going to do nothing for y'all.
27:15
Speaker 12: Yes, he was.
27:15
Speaker 2: He was going to the ball. We beat y'all. Good morning, Mimi.
27:19
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27:24
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27:25
Speaker 2: You didn't say that you went to the game yesterday.
27:27
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27:29
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27:31
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27:40
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Speaker 8: America's largest law firm. So let's start with a major
27:47
Speaker 8: settlement for DoorDash workers. And this one is getting a
27:50
Speaker 8: lot of attention for gig workers across the country. So DoorDash,
27:54
Speaker 8: they have agreed to pay millions of dollars after New
27:57
Speaker 8: York City found it underpaid thousands of workers. Here is
28:01
Speaker 8: New York City Mayor Zoran Mondani.
28:03
Speaker 11: Let's listen.
28:04
Speaker 19: After analyzing 152 million payments and 110 million hours of work,
28:11
Speaker 19: DoorDash had underpaid more than 260,000 delivery workers across New
28:16
Speaker 19: York City. I am proud to announce that DoorDash will
28:20
Speaker 19: pay more than $ 131 million, the largest settlement for food
28:26
Speaker 19: delivery workers ever secured in American municipal history, and a
28:30
Speaker 19: landmark win for those who have been mistreated and abused
28:33
Speaker 19: for years with nowhere to turn.
28:42
Speaker 12: That's exactly true. That's really huge.
28:44
Speaker 8: So DoorDash, they are acknowledging that mistakes were made, but
28:47
Speaker 8: said it was not intentional. But the city says 27,000
28:51
Speaker 8: DoorDash workers will get back pay for more than $ 1, 000.
28:54
Speaker 8: And there's about 4,000 workers who will get more than
28:58
Speaker 8: $ 5, 000 in back pay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see him shaking down those corporations.
29:03
Speaker 1: He did something like that with Amazon as well.
29:05
Speaker 5: Yep.
29:06
Speaker 2: What's crazy is how much DoorDash makes on people, right?
29:10
Speaker 2: Because it's so damn expensive. And you always think about
29:12
Speaker 2: when you order DoorDash, you're like, how can people afford this?
29:15
Speaker 6: But you see the profit that they're making.
29:17
Speaker 2: If they got enough money to pay $ 118 million like this,
29:20
Speaker 2: it's Jesus Christ.
29:21
Speaker 6: That's crazy. All the fees. That's crazy.
29:26
Speaker 8: And now moving on to Nolan Wells and his family.
29:29
Speaker 8: They say their fight for justice is not over yet.
29:32
Speaker 8: on monday a mississippi grand jury decided that there was
29:36
Speaker 8: not enough evidence to charge anyone in the 18-year-old's death. Now,
29:41
Speaker 8: the grand jury, they said they heard from 43 witnesses,
29:43
Speaker 8: reviewed autopsies, police interviews, videos, photos, and other evidence, and
29:47
Speaker 8: it found no credible evidence that Nolan and the acquaintances
29:52
Speaker 8: that he was on the island with committed a crime
29:55
Speaker 8: and said that so far the findings are consistent with
29:59
Speaker 8: a drowning. But yesterday, Nolan's family, they pushed back. Both
30:02
Speaker 8: the state medical examiner and the family's independent pathologist, they
30:07
Speaker 8: listed his cause of manner and death as undetermined. The
30:10
Speaker 8: family's private autopsy found unexplained blunt force trauma to the
30:16
Speaker 8: back of Nolan's head and other areas of his back. Now,
30:19
Speaker 8: his mother, Christine Wansley, she made it clear that the
30:22
Speaker 8: family is not accepting their findings as the final word.
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Speaker 12: Let's listen.
30:27
Speaker 20: What we have learned is that we still have no answers.
30:30
Speaker 11: Elmore and I do not believe that.
30:34
Speaker 8: Nolan simply and accidentally drowned and nobody saw anything and
30:42
Speaker 8: no one knows anything.
30:43
Speaker 6: Last night was.
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Speaker 19: A reminder that our son's life does not matter.
30:52
Speaker 18: To those who hold positions that are supposed to serve
30:58
Speaker 18: and protect the public.
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Speaker 7: Man.
31:01
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Very, very sad.
31:04
Speaker 8: The family says they have more evidence they're preparing to
31:07
Speaker 8: make public. Their attorneys say Nolan's phone was not turned
31:11
Speaker 8: over to investigators under the conditions that investigators requested. Instead,
31:16
Speaker 8: the family's team conducted its own inspection of that phone.
31:19
Speaker 12: Here's Attorney Van Crump.
31:21
Speaker 18: We went out and we retained the top experts to
31:25
Speaker 18: help us get to the truth of what happened. And
31:28
Speaker 18: we think it's going to be enlightening when you go
31:31
Speaker 18: through that phone extraction and everything dealing with the metadata
31:38
Speaker 18: of the phone because the investigation should remain open and active.
31:46
Speaker 1: I guarantee you at some point in life, one of
31:49
Speaker 1: those kids involved in this situation is going.
31:52
Speaker 4: To break and tell the truth about what happened to
31:55
Speaker 4: Nolan Wells.
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Speaker 1: There's no way you can walk around with something like
31:57
Speaker 1: that on your conscience for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2: Impossible. I feel so sorry for the family.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I'm sorry.
32:04
Speaker 8: Attorney Crump says that on Thursday, tomorrow in Orlando, they
32:09
Speaker 8: will reveal what they found on that phone. The family
32:12
Speaker 8: is also calling for authorities to release the full state
32:16
Speaker 8: autopsy report and investigative file. And their attorneys say that
32:20
Speaker 8: they're just going to continue fighting through a civil case.
32:24
Speaker 8: And the NAACP is also calling for a federal investigation.
32:28
Speaker 8: So definitely not giving up there. All right, guys, looks
32:35
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32:45
Speaker 2: All right. Thank you, Mimi.
32:47
Speaker 12: Thank you.
32:48
Speaker 2: Now, when we come back, we have street dancer and
32:50
Speaker 2: director John Boogs. He has a new short film, Remedy
32:54
Speaker 2: in the Rhythm. And also he was in the Michael movie.
32:58
Speaker 2: He was also in Cirque du Soleil, Michael. He was
33:01
Speaker 2: one of the dudes, if you watched the Michael movie that,
33:03
Speaker 2: you know, when Michael learned the popping from the street dudes,
33:06
Speaker 2: he was one of the street dudes that taught Michael
33:08
Speaker 2: how to pop and lock.
33:09
Speaker 4: And he's just got such a great story, man.
33:11
Speaker 1: A lot of times we see these street dancers and
33:14
Speaker 1: we don't know what's behind their motivation for doing what
33:17
Speaker 1: it is that they're doing.
33:18
Speaker 5: But these are people that are just out there hustling.
33:20
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? They're trying to.
33:22
Speaker 1: You know, pay their rent for the month, right? They're
33:24
Speaker 1: trying to pay their health insurance. Like, this is an
33:26
Speaker 1: actual job for them. So he's got a great story, man.
33:29
Speaker 1: Salute to John Boogs. We're going to talk to him next.
33:31
Speaker 1: Nice to Breakfast Club.
33:31
Speaker 10: Good morning.
33:32
Speaker 18: Morning, everybody.
33:33
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
33:36
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Lon LaRose is here as well. We
33:39
Speaker 2: got a special guest in the building.
33:40
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed.
33:41
Speaker 2: We got a brother, John Boogs. Welcome.
33:43
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be here, man. I've been a fan
33:44
Speaker 5: of the platform for a really long time. So it's
33:47
Speaker 5: just dope to be on here with y'all, kicking it
33:49
Speaker 5: and getting a chance to... Just chop it up with y'all.
33:51
Speaker 6: I like your ensemble. I like your jewelry. I love
33:54
Speaker 6: your outfit.
33:55
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. This outfit was made by my homie Keon.
33:58
Speaker 5: It's a black-owned company called Haas in Las Vegas where
34:02
Speaker 5: I live. So he made this shirt for me because
34:04
Speaker 5: I was in the Michael movie as a gift.
34:06
Speaker 4: Nice.
34:07
Speaker 5: Then he made the custom jeans for me, so I
34:08
Speaker 5: got to shout the homie out.
34:09
Speaker 2: For people that don't know who you are, let's start
34:11
Speaker 2: from the beginning of who you are, what you do,
34:14
Speaker 2: how you started dancing at the age of four. Give
34:16
Speaker 2: me a little rundown of who John Boogs is.
34:18
Speaker 5: I mean, in a nutshell, I'm just an artist. You know,
34:21
Speaker 5: I'm a filmmaker, Emmy winning choreographer, director, writer, producer. I
34:27
Speaker 5: wear all the hats, you know what I mean? Because
34:29
Speaker 5: I really had no choice if I wanted to get
34:30
Speaker 5: the stories out there that I've been that's been living
34:33
Speaker 5: in my body for a long time.
34:34
Speaker 1: I had to learn to wear all those hats. What
34:36
Speaker 1: do people get wrong about street dancing? I've had the
34:39
Speaker 1: privilege of reading a lot of your stories and things
34:41
Speaker 1: that you've written about. And the world of street dancing,
34:44
Speaker 1: I never even thought about it. Like you never even
34:47
Speaker 1: thought about why people are out there doing what it
34:50
Speaker 1: is that they're doing.
34:51
Speaker 5: A hundred percent. There's so many misconceptions about the art form.
34:54
Speaker 5: I think one is like, it's true rich history. You know,
34:58
Speaker 5: the particular style that I do popping and boogalooing, it
35:00
Speaker 5: started in Oakland, California, and it actually started during the
35:03
Speaker 5: time period of the black Panther party. You know what
35:05
Speaker 5: I'm saying? So it's, it's crazy that a dance kind
35:08
Speaker 5: of started during the black liberation movement and they would actually, um,
35:12
Speaker 5: they would get down to draw crowds for Huey Newton
35:15
Speaker 5: to do his speeches. You know, a lot of people
35:17
Speaker 5: don't really know how deep in the social connection that's
35:20
Speaker 5: always been connected to the dance. It's always been a
35:23
Speaker 5: healing modality. It's always been a response to an environment.
35:27
Speaker 5: And I think what the masses see with our vernacular
35:30
Speaker 5: on film and screen just kind of hasn't represented the
35:33
Speaker 5: culture correctly. And I think that's one of my big
35:37
Speaker 5: goals is to kind of changed that perception.
35:39
Speaker 1: You know, people in the South Bronx right now are like,
35:41
Speaker 1: what you mean popping and locking started in Oakland?
35:44
Speaker 5: Well, there's two different styles. Hands down, b-boying started here
35:48
Speaker 5: in New York. So there's no disputing that hip-hop, the
35:52
Speaker 5: birthplace of hip-hop is New York City. But popping and
35:55
Speaker 5: boogaloo are West Coast styles. They originated in Oakland. So
35:59
Speaker 5: it's kind of like.
36:00
Speaker 4: What's the difference?
36:01
Speaker 5: B-boying is more like the common audience would know as breakdancing,
36:06
Speaker 5: when people kind of doing six steps, head spins, halos.
36:08
Speaker 5: Popping is more of the... the robotic you know the
36:12
Speaker 5: way like the movie breaking exactly like that yeah exactly
36:15
Speaker 5: the movie breaking was like popping boogaloo and then beach
36:18
Speaker 5: street was like the east coast.
36:20
Speaker 15: Version yeah he used to be a b-boy dancer.
36:22
Speaker 2: No i wasn't i wish i could but wasn't in
36:24
Speaker 2: beach street when he had the uh the broom.
36:26
Speaker 5: Right that's breaking that was breaking that was boogaloo shrimp
36:29
Speaker 5: that was boogaloo shrimp turbo aka.
36:30
Speaker 2: That was turbo that wasn't popping and locking or was
36:33
Speaker 2: that that is popping yeah yeah you said that started
36:35
Speaker 2: in on the west coast on.
36:36
Speaker 1: The west coast yes sir yeah what about when michael
36:38
Speaker 1: gave share her ass on um what was that american man's.
36:43
Speaker 4: Name remember when you remember when michael he.
36:45
Speaker 5: Was robot yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean wouldn't.
36:48
Speaker 4: That be considered like popping and locking so i would.
36:50
Speaker 5: Say it's like one of the like godfather dances that
36:53
Speaker 5: kind of spawned popping. You know what I'm saying? Because
36:56
Speaker 5: roboting was like just a black social dance that people did.
36:59
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like the funky robot was
37:02
Speaker 5: just a thing people did. And I think that evolved
37:04
Speaker 5: into popping, if that makes any sense.
37:07
Speaker 2: When you started dancing... And you were going through your
37:10
Speaker 2: career as a dancer and street dancer. Did you know
37:14
Speaker 2: that this was going to be a career? And did
37:15
Speaker 2: you know what you were going to make out of it, right?
37:17
Speaker 2: Because I have daughters that dance. And I always, you know,
37:20
Speaker 2: they're young. But I'm like, well, what's next?
37:22
Speaker 5: Yeah.
37:22
Speaker 2: But when I'm looking at you, I'm like, oh, there
37:24
Speaker 2: is a next.
37:24
Speaker 5: No, that's a great question. I got to shout my
37:27
Speaker 5: mother out because in tandem, I had this art form
37:30
Speaker 5: of street dance that I love. But my mother was
37:32
Speaker 5: a huge dancer. film head you know she used to
37:36
Speaker 5: make me watch really deep narrative movies as a kid
37:38
Speaker 5: like Schindler's List Color Purple The Roots made me watch
37:42
Speaker 5: the whole Roots series and then she was a big
37:44
Speaker 5: musical fan West Side Story South Pacific so like I
37:49
Speaker 5: had this love for popping and what everybody was doing
37:51
Speaker 5: in my But then I had this deep love for film.
37:55
Speaker 5: And then when I, you know, fast forward, I moved
37:57
Speaker 5: to Los Angeles. I kind of noticed like everybody who
38:00
Speaker 5: was doing our genre was either on like America's Best
38:03
Speaker 5: Dance Crew or So You Think You Can Dance. And
38:05
Speaker 5: there was no like I couldn't see myself. You know
38:08
Speaker 5: what I mean? I was like, oh, I want to
38:09
Speaker 5: make people feel like. the way I felt when I
38:12
Speaker 5: seen those films, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like,
38:14
Speaker 5: but with this beautiful vernacular that we do, and that's
38:18
Speaker 5: where I think it spawned, like, I want to be
38:20
Speaker 5: a filmmaker. You know, I got to learn how to direct.
38:22
Speaker 5: I got to learn how to write because the stories
38:24
Speaker 5: that I see with the craft, they just don't exist
38:27
Speaker 5: in the space. And that's what kind of started me
38:30
Speaker 5: on that road of like, okay, I'm going to choreograph,
38:33
Speaker 5: but I'm also want to be a filmmaker as well.
38:36
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think people understand like, you know, the,
38:38
Speaker 1: There's people also trying to just survive by doing screen dancing, right? Like,
38:42
Speaker 1: you don't think about it. I promise you, I never
38:45
Speaker 1: thought about it until I started reading your stuff, right?
38:47
Speaker 5: Yeah. Because I'm just like, they're so talented.
38:49
Speaker 18: Yeah.
38:49
Speaker 1: I would never think that they struggling with rent or,
38:52
Speaker 1: you know.
38:52
Speaker 4: Just trying to make ends meet. Like, they're actually out
38:54
Speaker 4: there trying to make money.
38:55
Speaker 5: Oh, no. I did not know that. Oh, dude. When
38:57
Speaker 5: I moved to L.A., I was living with four other
39:01
Speaker 5: black men in a one-bedroom apartment. We did it for
39:04
Speaker 5: five years. I would take... a two and a half
39:06
Speaker 5: hour bus ride from the Valley all the way down
39:08
Speaker 5: to Santa Monica. And we would street perform on Santa
39:11
Speaker 5: Monica's third street from 12 PM to 9 PM and
39:15
Speaker 5: jump on a two and a half hour bus ride back,
39:17
Speaker 5: wake up and do it again. And like, that was
39:20
Speaker 5: like that time period shaped me, you know what I'm saying?
39:23
Speaker 5: It shaped my craft. It shaped my hunger for the game.
39:26
Speaker 5: It made me see how tough living in L.A. really
39:29
Speaker 5: is because I'm from the East Coast. So I'm thinking L.A.
39:31
Speaker 5: is what I saw on TV. And then I move
39:33
Speaker 5: out there and I'm like, yo, you know what I mean?
39:35
Speaker 5: This is this is not. what it is, but, um,
39:38
Speaker 5: there's a whole world of street dancers out there who
39:41
Speaker 5: like really, you know, hit that pavement every day to
39:44
Speaker 5: pay their rent. And I was, I was one of
39:46
Speaker 5: those people and I got really lucky. That's why it's
39:48
Speaker 5: not Michael Jackson just cause he's my idol, but like Michael,
39:51
Speaker 5: that's how I got discovered to go do the Cirque
39:53
Speaker 5: du Soleil show was I was street performing on Santa
39:56
Speaker 5: Monica and somebody from Michael Jackson's estate saw me and
39:58
Speaker 5: was like, yo, They're doing a show in Vegas. At
40:01
Speaker 5: this time, I'm living poor. So, you know, people in L.A.
40:03
Speaker 5: always tell you, yeah, I can do this for you.
40:05
Speaker 2: I can do this for you.
40:05
Speaker 5: And I'm like, all right, cool. Gave me a card
40:07
Speaker 5: to like email a video to this email. I was like,
40:10
Speaker 5: what I got to lose? Like, you know, I'm broke anyway.
40:13
Speaker 5: We out here struggling. And then I emailed. I sent
40:16
Speaker 5: the video dancing to Man in the Mirror to that email.
40:18
Speaker 5: And then like two days later, they flew me out
40:20
Speaker 5: to Vegas to see the show. And I was like,
40:23
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe they wanted me to be in that,
40:25
Speaker 5: like in my head at that time. And I was
40:28
Speaker 5: just grateful. So shout out to Cirque du Soleil because
40:29
Speaker 5: that gave me the time to like not be broke,
40:33
Speaker 5: figure out what I really wanted to do with the craft.
40:35
Speaker 5: And then that's when the filmmaking and directing and writing
40:38
Speaker 5: really kicked in during my years at Michael Jackson Cirque
40:42
Speaker 5: du Soleil.
40:43
Speaker 4: How do you dance to Man in the Mirror?
40:45
Speaker 5: All I do is cry when that song comes out.
40:47
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson don't cry. He dance like Michael Jackson.
40:48
Speaker 5: Man in the Mirror? I never seen Michael dance to it. Yeah,
40:51
Speaker 5: it's just one of my all-time favorite songs.
40:53
Speaker 11: I love it.
40:54
Speaker 4: I'm just like, how do you dance to Man in
40:55
Speaker 4: the Mirror?
40:56
Speaker 5: I mean, to me, popping is just an instrument to
40:59
Speaker 5: illustrate music. I don't have a limit to what music
41:04
Speaker 5: I can dance to. I love orchestrated music. I love Jay-Z.
41:08
Speaker 5: My palate for music is.
41:12
Speaker 6: So you don't always need a beat.
41:14
Speaker 5: Nah, nah, it's a feeling. It's emotion. Dance is emoting emotion.
41:17
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
41:18
Speaker 4: You stop.
41:19
Speaker 2: What did you play in Cirque du Soleil?
41:21
Speaker 4: What character?
41:21
Speaker 5: It was a character actually called a tabloid junkie, which
41:24
Speaker 5: it represented the media. You know what I'm saying? You
41:26
Speaker 5: know how Michael always had like his tiffs with the
41:29
Speaker 5: media and they always bashing him in the media. So
41:31
Speaker 5: we kind of represented the side, um, He was a
41:34
Speaker 5: camera guy or a reporter? Yeah, like it was funny.
41:36
Speaker 5: It was like kind of like we were like these
41:38
Speaker 5: machines with like cameras on top of our head, cameras
41:41
Speaker 5: on our shoulders, like cameras everywhere. So it was just
41:43
Speaker 5: like it wasn't really an actual person. It meant it
41:47
Speaker 5: was more like a symbol of media in a negative fashion.
41:50
Speaker 2: And then in the new movie, you played one of
41:52
Speaker 2: the gang members.
41:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Another full circle moment because when I was
41:57
Speaker 5: living with four people in a one bedroom, somebody from
41:59
Speaker 5: Michael's estate saw me. I got that show. That's where
42:03
Speaker 5: I met my wife. You know what I mean? It
42:04
Speaker 5: changed my whole life. So that was a blessing. And then,
42:07
Speaker 5: I don't know, six, seven years later, my homies, shout
42:10
Speaker 5: out Rich and Tone. They were the choreographers for the movie.
42:12
Speaker 5: And they reached out to me. It was like, yo, Boogs,
42:14
Speaker 5: there's a scene in the movie where Michael's going to
42:16
Speaker 5: see Poppin' for the first time. And I was like,
42:18
Speaker 5: come on, man. This is like full circle. Like I
42:20
Speaker 5: was watching it when I was five years old. Then
42:22
Speaker 5: I end up changing my life, getting into his Cirque
42:24
Speaker 5: du Soleil show. And now I'm about to play a
42:26
Speaker 5: part where he's seeing... the particular style that I do.
42:30
Speaker 5: That was like, you couldn't write that. You couldn't even
42:32
Speaker 5: write that better. You know what I'm saying? And so
42:34
Speaker 5: it was, even though it was a small part, I
42:36
Speaker 5: thought it was one of the more authentic scenes of
42:38
Speaker 5: the movie. Cause a lot of people know how talented
42:41
Speaker 5: Michael was and his music and how grandioso his performances were.
42:45
Speaker 5: But a lot of people don't know he learned street
42:47
Speaker 5: dance from real street dancers, you know, pop and taco,
42:51
Speaker 5: pop and Pete, Boogaloo shrimp, Jeffrey Daniels, Casper. These are
42:55
Speaker 5: all people who really, used to go to Mike's house
42:58
Speaker 5: in Havenhurst and really teach him some of those steps.
43:01
Speaker 5: So a lot of people think Mike doing the backslide,
43:03
Speaker 5: because it's not the moonwalk, it's actually really the backslide.
43:06
Speaker 5: That's the real terminology for it. They thought he created it.
43:10
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? But he really, but that
43:12
Speaker 5: was Mike's genius. Mike knew the beauty of like Fred
43:15
Speaker 5: Astaire and Bob Fosse and what those dudes brought to
43:17
Speaker 5: the table, but also knew what dudes was doing in
43:20
Speaker 5: the hood was just as elevated. And he was the
43:22
Speaker 5: first to kind of merge it. And that's why Michael's
43:25
Speaker 5: movement to this day is still untouched.
43:27
Speaker 1: It's funny because even being young back then and before
43:29
Speaker 1: the internet and everything, you heard that though. You heard like,
43:32
Speaker 1: I remember somebody saying, Boogaloo and Turbo taught Michael how
43:35
Speaker 1: to dance.
43:35
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was true.
43:37
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people I think Michael interacted with.
43:43
Speaker 5: I can't speak exactly on everybody. I just named the
43:47
Speaker 5: few names that I do know that I know Taco
43:49
Speaker 5: was with him for a long time. I know Boogaloo
43:51
Speaker 5: Shrimp was with him. Casper. Jeffrey Daniels from the group
43:54
Speaker 5: Shalamar back in the day. And there's some other people.
43:58
Speaker 5: I was thinking about the guy from the Breaking movie, though.
44:00
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Sorry.
44:01
Speaker 5: A lot of people know him as Turbo. In the movie,
44:04
Speaker 5: he's Turbo. In the street, he's Boogaloo Shrimp.
44:08
Speaker 4: Got you.
44:09
Speaker 2: Did you ever meet Michael?
44:09
Speaker 5: Nah, man. Nah. I've gotten to meet some of his
44:12
Speaker 5: family members, but never had a chance to meet him. That's...
44:15
Speaker 5: But I feel like I've been able to be a
44:17
Speaker 5: part of his legacy in a unique way. So I'm
44:20
Speaker 5: just honored to even be in that little percentile who's helping,
44:24
Speaker 5: you know, help elevating his legacy to them.
44:27
Speaker 4: I want to get into Remedy and Rhythm.
44:28
Speaker 5: Yeah.
44:29
Speaker 4: But I have to ask you before we move on.
44:31
Speaker 1: Better dancer, because you would know better than all of
44:33
Speaker 1: us in this room, Michael Jackson or Chris Brown.
44:36
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to keep it a beam. Michael.
44:38
Speaker 7: Thank you.
44:39
Speaker 5: And I'm going to tell you why. Chris Brown is
44:42
Speaker 5: so talented in his versatility. of dance he can pop
44:46
Speaker 5: a little bit crump a little bit like he can
44:48
Speaker 5: do a little bit but like Michael made up isms
44:52
Speaker 5: yep that only Michael does like I can't find what
44:57
Speaker 5: you're saying I can't find a move that I'm like
44:59
Speaker 5: that's Chris Brown he could do it though if you
45:03
Speaker 5: if you teach him he'll do it and he'll do
45:04
Speaker 5: it just as good as the dancer if not better
45:07
Speaker 5: but Michael has certain moves that everyone knows when when
45:11
Speaker 5: you do that kick and he.
45:13
Speaker 6: Do, that's Mike.
45:15
Speaker 5: So it's just like iconic. It's just certain movements. So
45:18
Speaker 5: I got to give him the nod just because he
45:21
Speaker 5: has original moves that is what we would consider like,
45:25
Speaker 5: that's some Michael Jackson.
45:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree, but I'm not a dancer. The reason
45:29
Speaker 2: I said that is when I see Chris Brown what
45:31
Speaker 2: he can do.
45:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
45:32
Speaker 2: He, to me, it feels like he's able to do
45:35
Speaker 2: a Michael Jackson can do on crack, meaning you can
45:37
Speaker 2: do a lot of the moves, but then he adds
45:39
Speaker 2: in the acro where he's flipping and doing it and
45:42
Speaker 2: making his body do weird stuff that I've never seen
45:44
Speaker 2: before when it comes to dance on top of that. So,
45:47
Speaker 2: I mean, they're both amazing dancers.
45:48
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson can do things that, well, could do things
45:50
Speaker 6: that nobody else can do. Imagine somebody walking on stage,
45:53
Speaker 6: grabbing a crotch, screaming hee-hee on his toes.
45:56
Speaker 5: And he can get away with it. That's what I'm saying.
45:58
Speaker 5: So don't get me wrong. Shout out to Chris, because
46:00
Speaker 5: Chris is phenomenal.
46:02
Speaker 6: And he is.
46:02
Speaker 5: He is phenomenal. It's just, I'm going to be biased
46:05
Speaker 5: because Mike has been a part of my life since
46:08
Speaker 5: I was five years old. So, like, I didn't watch
46:10
Speaker 5: Chris and get inspired by him.
46:11
Speaker 2: I don't think there's no wrong answer.
46:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Chris... Outside of Mike, it's Chris. Now, what
46:16
Speaker 5: you said make a lot of sense.
46:17
Speaker 2: Like, you can.
46:18
Speaker 4: Everybody got a little bit of Michael in them.
46:20
Speaker 5: Yeah.
46:20
Speaker 4: Like, there is a lot of Michael.
46:22
Speaker 5: Yeah.
46:22
Speaker 4: I think that makes perfect sense.
46:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Mike's isms was just crazy. Even how he
46:26
Speaker 5: would just slap him. He would just do crazy.
46:28
Speaker 6: Go out there and do stuff that you would see
46:30
Speaker 6: happen in the back of your classroom, but you wouldn't
46:32
Speaker 6: pay attention to him doing it.
46:33
Speaker 5: There's only one other person with isms to me.
46:35
Speaker 3: Who?
46:35
Speaker 5: James Brown.
46:36
Speaker 14: Oh.
46:37
Speaker 5: And, yeah, that's Mike's teacher. You know what I'm saying?
46:41
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying?
46:41
Speaker 7: So, like.
46:42
Speaker 5: Like, and to be honest, that was my mother used
46:45
Speaker 5: to make me watch James Brown tape. Shout out my
46:47
Speaker 5: mom again. She used to make me watch James Brown
46:49
Speaker 5: all the time. The night train performance, the little black
46:51
Speaker 5: and white one. And he was on some TV show
46:53
Speaker 5: and he was gliding on one leg and vibing. James
46:58
Speaker 5: was a dog on that dance floor. He was crazy.
47:01
Speaker 1: Now, Remedy and Rhythm. It's about your childhood best friend
47:05
Speaker 1: who committed, completed suicide.
47:08
Speaker 5: Yes.
47:08
Speaker 1: Right.
47:08
Speaker 18: Right.
47:09
Speaker 4: And then you spiraled into isolation, right?
47:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, the film Remedy and the Rhythm is basically about
47:16
Speaker 5: four friends who all grew up together. And one of
47:19
Speaker 5: them ends up taking their own life. So the other
47:21
Speaker 5: three are left behind to kind of deal with the
47:23
Speaker 5: grieving of that situation. And then the three characters, they
47:27
Speaker 5: all go to this kind of group therapy session that
47:29
Speaker 5: they all promised each other that they would go to
47:31
Speaker 5: when the friend passed away. And when they go there,
47:34
Speaker 5: you see how the death of the friend has changed.
47:36
Speaker 5: triggered each one of them in different ways. But instead
47:39
Speaker 5: of hearing them talk about it, you see their deepest
47:41
Speaker 5: traumas connected to the friend's death play out in an
47:44
Speaker 5: operatic fashion. So like through my, through choreography, poetry, music,
47:49
Speaker 5: and so far our film has gotten into three, two
47:52
Speaker 5: Oscar qualifiers. So I'm really happy about that. Thank you.
47:55
Speaker 5: Thank you. No, I'm really happy about that. And just,
47:57
Speaker 5: just using this as an opportunity for twofold, like, cause
48:00
Speaker 5: I'm a huge advocate for mental health. You know what
48:02
Speaker 5: I'm saying? Especially amongst black men. So I really wanted
48:05
Speaker 5: to make a film that touched on that because I
48:07
Speaker 5: lost a friend to that, you know, to that exact situation.
48:11
Speaker 5: But I also want to show people there's no limits
48:14
Speaker 5: to the stories that can be told. No disrespect to
48:16
Speaker 5: these films because these films gave jobs to people and
48:19
Speaker 5: they provided opportunities, but step up can't be the standard.
48:22
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
48:23
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Like, I want a film
48:26
Speaker 5: as powerful as Moonlight with our vernacular in it, pushing
48:29
Speaker 5: the story forward. You know what I'm saying? And I
48:31
Speaker 5: just feel like we've never seen that. And so this
48:33
Speaker 5: film to me is like the beginning, I hope, of
48:36
Speaker 5: us changing the narrative of like what stories can be
48:39
Speaker 5: told with black dance vernacular on screen.
48:42
Speaker 4: You won an Emmy, but.
48:43
Speaker 1: You were the first black street dance choreographer to win
48:47
Speaker 1: an Emmy for Blindspotting.
48:49
Speaker 4: How does that feel? Being first still feel like an accomplishment?
48:52
Speaker 6: Oh, man.
48:52
Speaker 5: I mean, my wife tries to help me celebrate the
48:56
Speaker 5: small things because I'm so forward thinking that sometimes I
48:59
Speaker 5: don't sit in any of those moments. I still feel
49:02
Speaker 5: like I got so much I want to do as
49:03
Speaker 5: a director and a filmmaker and a creative. But shout
49:06
Speaker 5: out Rafael Casal and Davi Diggs. Like they actually came
49:10
Speaker 5: to a theater show that Lil Buck and I created
49:13
Speaker 5: called Love Heals All Wounds. We toured 25 cities. We
49:15
Speaker 5: did a Europe run. And I'll never forget, we did
49:18
Speaker 5: the show in L.A. at the Royce Hall. at UCLA.
49:21
Speaker 5: And then Rafa invites me to his crib and he's like, yo, man,
49:24
Speaker 5: Stars just gave us a deal to make Blindspotting a
49:27
Speaker 5: TV show. And some of the stuff you're doing in
49:29
Speaker 5: your theater show, I see it existing in the TV series.
49:33
Speaker 5: And so I'm forever grateful to those brothers because they
49:36
Speaker 5: gave me a platform to kind of show what we
49:38
Speaker 5: were already kind of doing in the theater space and
49:41
Speaker 5: bring it to the screen. And not only did we
49:43
Speaker 5: win an Emmy, but we told the history of the
49:45
Speaker 5: N-word through street dance on TV and it won an Emmy.
49:49
Speaker 5: So to me, it's like not only being the first
49:50
Speaker 5: black street dancer, but the subject matter was so difficult
49:54
Speaker 5: to understand. express and through movement that i think it
49:58
Speaker 5: almost deserved like two awards because i i personally still
50:01
Speaker 5: to this day have never seen anything like that on
50:03
Speaker 5: tv and i don't think we will see anything like
50:06
Speaker 5: that again on tv so shout out to them brothers how.
50:09
Speaker 4: Do you how do you address the history of the
50:10
Speaker 4: n-word in dance.
50:12
Speaker 5: Was crazy it was like in the script it just
50:14
Speaker 5: said john choreographs history of the n-word there was no
50:18
Speaker 5: like Damn. No layout. You know what I'm saying? Now
50:20
Speaker 5: I worked with the director of the episode, Jess Wu.
50:23
Speaker 5: She was the director of episode three, season two. And
50:26
Speaker 5: we sat down and we started to create the worlds like, okay, cool.
50:30
Speaker 5: I thought in my brain, like the history of the
50:32
Speaker 5: N word and how it's changed over time. You know
50:35
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, there's, we'll
50:37
Speaker 5: do this, you know, the slave slavery era. We'll do
50:40
Speaker 5: the civil rights era. We'll do the modern era. And
50:43
Speaker 5: we kind of broke it down into three worlds. And
50:46
Speaker 5: I had done a piece in my theater show that
50:48
Speaker 5: was like an auction, you know what I'm saying? Like
50:49
Speaker 5: a slave auction. So I had already kind of dabbled
50:52
Speaker 5: with that concept before. And then I started looking up sit-ins,
50:56
Speaker 5: you know, where blacks used to sit in the restaurants
50:58
Speaker 5: as a form of protest. And then obviously there's too
51:01
Speaker 5: many modern that we can talk about George Floyd, all
51:04
Speaker 5: kinds of stuff. So we pulled from the three different
51:07
Speaker 5: generations of the word and broke it down into three worlds.
51:11
Speaker 5: And then each world, me and my wife, we choreographed
51:15
Speaker 5: each one together to kind of make it come to life.
51:19
Speaker 1: What do you think about the word now? You know,
51:20
Speaker 1: there's always a debate. There was a debate a week ago.
51:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:25
Speaker 5: I mean, in a, in a, it's, it's tough because
51:29
Speaker 5: not saying tough in that way. We're like, I, I
51:31
Speaker 5: think personally we don't need to use it. You know
51:33
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Like, I don't think we need to
51:36
Speaker 5: use it at all. I agree. I, I, I can't
51:38
Speaker 5: lie and say that I grew up in neighborhoods where
51:41
Speaker 5: everybody was using it all the time. Even myself, you know,
51:44
Speaker 5: I've been a victim of using it all the time,
51:46
Speaker 5: you know, all the time, but I've been trying to
51:48
Speaker 5: like change that. Cause I feel like once I started
51:50
Speaker 5: doing some of the work I started doing over the
51:52
Speaker 5: years and I started really like tapping into the, Yeah.
51:55
Speaker 5: To the to the to the social impact part of
51:58
Speaker 5: what I'm doing. I just realized, like, I understand it
52:00
Speaker 5: because some people just grew up in environments where they
52:02
Speaker 5: hear it all the time.
52:03
Speaker 4: And it's habitual. Yeah, it's habitual.
52:05
Speaker 5: So I understand that. But also, like, you know, we
52:08
Speaker 5: can change habits. Yeah.
52:10
Speaker 20: Yeah.
52:11
Speaker 6: Favorite Michael Jackson movie.
52:12
Speaker 5: Favorite Michael Jackson.
52:13
Speaker 6: There's a couple of them out there.
52:14
Speaker 5: Movie?
52:14
Speaker 7: Yeah.
52:15
Speaker 5: Meaning like, like, like.
52:16
Speaker 6: Flex Washington, Javon Jackson.
52:18
Speaker 5: Nobody likes Flex Washington.
52:19
Speaker 2: Now you bring that one up.
52:20
Speaker 20: Oh.
52:20
Speaker 6: Because he's all things Michael Jackson, so I know you
52:23
Speaker 6: watched the one with Flex.
52:24
Speaker 5: Okay, I put the Javar Jackson one first, the one,
52:28
Speaker 5: the reason. Because you meant it. Yeah, yeah, gotta shut that.
52:30
Speaker 5: And then second is the one with Angela Bassett. Remember
52:33
Speaker 5: the series? The American Dream.
52:35
Speaker 7: Yes, okay.
52:36
Speaker 5: All right, got you. The one with Angela Bassett was live. Yeah,
52:41
Speaker 5: those are my two favorite Michael Biles.
52:44
Speaker 6: The third one is Flex's.
52:47
Speaker 5: Nobody watches the Flex watch the one.
52:49
Speaker 4: I don't even think he danced in that movie.
52:52
Speaker 2: Do you think there needs to be a part two
52:53
Speaker 2: of Michael?
52:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe there is going to be one from
52:56
Speaker 5: what I know.
52:57
Speaker 2: I told you.
52:57
Speaker 6: Remember, you broke it.
52:59
Speaker 2: Charlamagne doesn't think there should be one.
53:00
Speaker 5: I think there should be one. Do you think there
53:02
Speaker 5: should be? Well, I think, yeah, you know why? Because
53:05
Speaker 5: my favorite music video of all time is Smooth Criminal.
53:08
Speaker 5: And so I would love, Javar went so crazy. He did.
53:12
Speaker 5: He went so crazy, like, I think people don't know,
53:15
Speaker 5: like they saw it, but like, we got to see
53:18
Speaker 5: it like behind the scenes. And like, it was eerie. Yeah.
53:22
Speaker 5: And I'm not, I know some people say that, but
53:24
Speaker 5: I'm telling you as a diehard Michael, like I'm picky
53:26
Speaker 5: on some, I'm picky about Michael. And I'm like, I
53:29
Speaker 5: would look over and be like, yo.
53:30
Speaker 7: Yeah.
53:31
Speaker 5: Yeah. He was.
53:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
53:33
Speaker 5: So I just think there's other generations of Michael that
53:35
Speaker 5: he's so great at playing his uncle that, a part
53:38
Speaker 5: two of like remember the time like.
53:40
Speaker 6: You know wherever they go.
53:42
Speaker 15: With it music stuff people want part twos for like
53:46
Speaker 15: they want to get into the other.
53:47
Speaker 5: Stuff yeah they want to get what should be yeah
53:50
Speaker 5: yeah well i mean that's up to antoine fuqua the
53:53
Speaker 5: director you know i'm saying like you know i i
53:55
Speaker 5: think either way part two will be received really well
53:58
Speaker 5: because the people people want it you gotta get the
54:00
Speaker 5: people what they want.
54:01
Speaker 6: And it ended too early There's a lot of hits
54:03
Speaker 6: we didn't get to see him perform and things like that.
54:05
Speaker 6: Like you just said.
54:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. So yeah, I think
54:08
Speaker 5: they left room for it to be there.
54:11
Speaker 4: I just got two more questions about the film, right?
54:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.
54:14
Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like there's a danger when artists want
54:17
Speaker 1: to turn trauma into art.
54:19
Speaker 5: Yep.
54:19
Speaker 4: Because the pain can become.
54:21
Speaker 2: Productive, right?
54:22
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to make sure you weren't holding
54:24
Speaker 1: on to something just because it was creatively useful?
54:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think like as cathartic as that,
54:30
Speaker 5: the work is, you know, I, you know, a lot
54:32
Speaker 5: of things that if I can't get out, cause sometimes
54:35
Speaker 5: some people think that like, you know, like they go, Oh, well,
54:38
Speaker 5: when I, when I'm depressed, I write music or when
54:41
Speaker 5: I'm anxious, I dance like, and don't get me wrong,
54:43
Speaker 5: art serves as a healer, but I also am an
54:46
Speaker 5: advocate for like other forms of therapy. You know, I
54:48
Speaker 5: have a therapist that I talked to twice a month
54:51
Speaker 5: that some things that I can't get out that the
54:53
Speaker 5: movement can't get out or the writing can't get out
54:56
Speaker 5: of the directing can't get out. I like, talk it
54:58
Speaker 5: out with her. You know what I'm saying? Cause there's, there's,
55:01
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. Like when I was telling y'all about that,
55:02
Speaker 5: living in a one bedroom apartment, there's traumas that still
55:06
Speaker 5: are stored in my body from that time period. You
55:08
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? Like living like that was crazy.
55:11
Speaker 5: And I think like it also formed a, I was
55:13
Speaker 5: such an outcast with what I was doing at the
55:16
Speaker 5: time in LA. It made this like, created this mindset
55:19
Speaker 5: of needing validation.
55:21
Speaker 4: This is my last question. Who were you trying to,
55:24
Speaker 4: I guess, save when you made this movie? Was it
55:26
Speaker 4: for you?
55:26
Speaker 1: Was it, you know, just to pay homage to.
55:28
Speaker 5: Your friend, was it the audience? Like, I think it
55:31
Speaker 5: was all three, Charlamagne. I think it was all three.
55:33
Speaker 5: I think there was a part of me who needed it.
55:35
Speaker 5: There was a part of me who wanted to see
55:37
Speaker 5: other people heal from it. And I mean, I've done
55:40
Speaker 5: screenings everywhere, LA, Vegas, and everywhere I go, people come
55:44
Speaker 5: up to me and like, with the most powerful things,
55:47
Speaker 5: you almost got to be prepared to hear people's deepest,
55:50
Speaker 5: like traumas. You know what I'm saying? Like I had
55:52
Speaker 5: to like prepare myself for that. Like a dude came
55:54
Speaker 5: up to me and was like, I haven't talked about
55:55
Speaker 5: this since Vietnam. He talks about how like he was
55:59
Speaker 5: him and his friend were on a tour of Vietnam
56:01
Speaker 5: out there really in war zone. And like he felt
56:04
Speaker 5: his friend passed away and it was his fault. You
56:06
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? And like hearing that from a
56:08
Speaker 5: 70 some year old man, 60 some year old man.
56:11
Speaker 5: And like he's coming up to me and like I
56:13
Speaker 5: haven't spoke about that since then. But my your film
56:16
Speaker 5: made me want to come talk to you about it.
56:18
Speaker 5: So to me, it's that cultural currency.
56:21
Speaker 1: It's.
56:21
Speaker 5: Can't put a value on you know i'm saying like
56:24
Speaker 5: those are the that was that's the real win the
56:26
Speaker 5: oscar qualifiers is great and yeah we want to do
56:28
Speaker 5: as many of those as we can but hearing people
56:31
Speaker 5: come out to me and saying your art affected me
56:33
Speaker 5: in that way that's that's the dub all right.
56:36
Speaker 2: Well, John Boogs, we appreciate you for joining us.
56:38
Speaker 5: No, I appreciate you for having me, man. Oh, yeah,
56:39
Speaker 5: you can follow me at John Boogs, J-O-N-B-O-O-G-Z. I'm that
56:44
Speaker 5: on all platforms. All right.
56:46
Speaker 2: John Boogs.
56:46
Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
56:47
Speaker 9: Love y'all.
56:47
Speaker 6: Appreciate you.
56:48
Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Yes, John Boogs just left.
56:50
Speaker 2: He was actually in the Michael movie and did Michael
56:53
Speaker 2: Cirque du Soleil out in Vegas. And his new documentary
56:57
Speaker 2: or short film, I should say, Remedy in the Rhythm.
56:59
Speaker 2: You can check that out now. And I know a
57:00
Speaker 2: lot of people thought.
57:01
Speaker 6: And I thought, I know a lot of people was like,
57:03
Speaker 6: J-Bug from B2K. And the whole time they see this
57:05
Speaker 6: guy with locks and it's John Bugs.
57:08
Speaker 5: John Bugs.
57:09
Speaker 6: So everybody out there listening, no, not J-Bugs from B2K.
57:12
Speaker 9: All right.
57:12
Speaker 2: Well, let's get to the latest with Laura.
57:15
Speaker 4: What, what, what, what, what you want to know?
57:17
Speaker 2: The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
57:18
Speaker 5: Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio,
57:21
Speaker 5: the black radio. That source is trusted. Did you hear
57:23
Speaker 5: that exclusive?
57:23
Speaker 15: Lauren, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about
57:26
Speaker 15: everything and everything.
57:27
Speaker 4: She be having the latest on things.
57:29
Speaker 11: You ask the questions that need to be answered.
57:31
Speaker 4: On The Breakfast Club.
57:33
Speaker 11: Little brown girls look at you and go, I want
57:34
Speaker 11: to be like you.
57:35
Speaker 5: LL Cool B. Talk to me.
57:37
Speaker 15: All righty, y'all. Well, the season has begun where we
57:40
Speaker 15: start talking about Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas.
57:45
Speaker 15: But it is kicking off with us talking about her record.
57:48
Speaker 15: Because you guys remember, she held the record at 22
57:51
Speaker 15: weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 at number one. That
57:54
Speaker 15: record was broken by Ella Langley, who is a country
57:57
Speaker 15: music artist, with her song, Choose in Texas. Y'all heard
58:00
Speaker 15: the song before?
58:00
Speaker 4: Nope.
58:01
Speaker 15: This is the song that Drake and Don Tolliver did
58:03
Speaker 15: their own little mix to on that one-hour FOMO stream.
58:06
Speaker 15: Let's take a listen to Ella Langley's Choose in Texas
58:08
Speaker 15: real quick.
58:08
Speaker 5: It doesn't take a crazy.
58:13
Speaker 1: Cowboy always finds a way to leave.
58:17
Speaker 12: Drinking Jack all by myself.
58:20
Speaker 4: Drinking Jack all by myself.
58:23
Speaker 1: Whenever you hear a country artist with that twang, that
58:25
Speaker 1: little twang, that little twang, you know it's about to hit.
58:28
Speaker 5: Drinking Jack all by myself.
58:31
Speaker 15: She said this record changed her life, and I know
58:33
Speaker 15: Drake has been screaming about her.
58:35
Speaker 4: That ain't no.
58:35
Speaker 5: Holiday record, though, right?
58:37
Speaker 9: No.
58:37
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I never heard that record before in my life.
58:39
Speaker 15: I didn't listen to it until Drake started talking about it, honestly.
58:42
Speaker 15: But it's a big song.
58:43
Speaker 2: Congratulations to her.
58:45
Speaker 4: It's a whole different algorithm.
58:48
Speaker 15: Now, shifting gears a bit. So, Kimora Lee Simmons, she
58:51
Speaker 15: dropped her documentary. Or Kimora Lee, I'm sorry. She goes
58:54
Speaker 15: by Kimora Lee now. Kimora Lee dropped her documentary, Kimora Lee,
58:58
Speaker 15: on her own. It's a doc that premiered on Lifetime
59:01
Speaker 15: on September 20th. And I watched it last night. The
59:04
Speaker 15: Breakfast Club is literally like used to completely help shape
59:08
Speaker 15: different conversations that they're doing. as, like, the media or
59:11
Speaker 15: news search. You're not going to input, like, clips in.
59:12
Speaker 6: The doc, right?
59:13
Speaker 1: Yo, Lifetime, y'all ain't ask nobody up here to do
59:15
Speaker 1: that now. You will be hearing from my white people today.
59:18
Speaker 15: My white people, yes. We all up and through there. Well,
59:21
Speaker 15: they address a couple different things. They open up with,
59:24
Speaker 15: you know, of course, Kimora talking about her relationship and
59:27
Speaker 15: then marriage with Russell Simmons. And she talks about meeting
59:29
Speaker 15: Russell Simmons at what she claims is age 16. He
59:32
Speaker 15: claims different. Let's take a listen.
59:34
Speaker 20: I was 16 years old when I met that man.
59:36
Speaker 20: He was 18 years older than me.
59:38
Speaker 2: When you first started dating Kimora, she was young as well.
59:41
Speaker 4: She was 17.
59:41
Speaker 5: I was 34. She was on the runway.
59:43
Speaker 4: I remember going backstage.
59:45
Speaker 5: I mean, she was a grown woman. I didn't know
59:47
Speaker 5: how old she was.
59:48
Speaker 20: He started sending like flowers to my agency.
59:50
Speaker 2: Big, crazy, like.
59:51
Speaker 20: Tree kind of flowers that you couldn't even lift when
59:54
Speaker 20: I was young. And he was super charismatic, funny, and
59:57
Speaker 20: what I thought was smart.
59:58
Speaker 15: Yeah, so you heard yourself.
1:00:00
Speaker 2: Was that my voice?
1:00:01
Speaker 8: Yes, Envy.
1:00:01
Speaker 6: No, you mean that was your voice.
1:00:02
Speaker 4: You know your voice. That was when Russell Simmons was here.
1:00:04
Speaker 4: That was before the nose job, though.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut up.
1:00:05
Speaker 15: Yeah, you sound a little groggy. But yeah, so there's
1:00:08
Speaker 15: been a back and forth about that conversation as well.
1:00:10
Speaker 15: But yeah, Russell Simmons was here talking about that and
1:00:12
Speaker 15: they used that clip.
1:00:13
Speaker 1: And you know, I saw, because yesterday he replied and
1:00:16
Speaker 1: said something like that as well, that she was 17
1:00:19
Speaker 1: and nine months or something like that. And I know
1:00:21
Speaker 1: people think that sounds crazy because it does, but sadly,
1:00:24
Speaker 1: the legal age of consent in New York is 17.
1:00:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does.
1:00:26
Speaker 2: Sound crazy though, but it's not illegal.
1:00:29
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why a 30 plus year old
1:00:31
Speaker 1: man would want a 17 year old, but it's, yeah,
1:00:34
Speaker 1: in New York City, that is.
1:00:35
Speaker 2: The age of consent.
1:00:36
Speaker 15: Well, they get into some other things as well. So
1:00:38
Speaker 15: you guys remember when, you know, there was so much
1:00:41
Speaker 15: happening between Russell Simmons and Kamora Lee and the kids
1:00:44
Speaker 15: were involved. And it was like, is he seeing his kids?
1:00:47
Speaker 6: Is he able to? Is he not?
1:00:49
Speaker 15: They talk about that. And they also use the Breakfast
1:00:50
Speaker 15: Club to narrate that as well, too. Let's take a
1:00:52
Speaker 15: listen to Kamora on Russ never seeing his kids.
1:00:55
Speaker 20: What he said about me saying you weren't going to
1:00:58
Speaker 20: see the kids, yes, I did say that, but not
1:01:00
Speaker 20: in the way that he says that. What I said
1:01:01
Speaker 20: to him was, please don't do this. Your crazy behavior
1:01:06
Speaker 20: is going to alienate you from your friends and your family.
1:01:10
Speaker 20: You're going to ruin your relationship with us.
1:01:12
Speaker 11: And sure enough, he did.
1:01:13
Speaker 15: I don't talk to my dad unless it's my birthday.
1:01:15
Speaker 7: I'll pick up.
1:01:16
Speaker 20: I don't talk to him because he lives in Bali,
1:01:18
Speaker 20: and I just don't like when I get on the
1:01:19
Speaker 20: phone that most of the things that we talk about
1:01:20
Speaker 20: is the lawsuits. My other daughter, Aoki, goes sometimes and
1:01:24
Speaker 20: sees her dad in Bali.
1:01:25
Speaker 6: So they do see him. So then Aoki was upset.
1:01:28
Speaker 2: The youngest daughter that recently graduated from Harvard.
1:01:31
Speaker 6: Aoki said a screenshot shows Russell calling Kimora a piece
1:01:35
Speaker 6: of ass and accusing her of stealing from him. Aoki
1:01:38
Speaker 6: says she will never speak to him again, but talking
1:01:40
Speaker 6: about their mother the way he does. So then Aoki
1:01:43
Speaker 6: screen recorded a FaceTime call.
1:01:45
Speaker 2: It was muted. You don't know what he's saying, but
1:01:47
Speaker 2: this is all family business.
1:01:49
Speaker 5: So was this audio or just visual?
1:01:51
Speaker 15: It was visual as well.
1:01:52
Speaker 4: So they showed Jess and Envy?
1:01:54
Speaker 15: No, they didn't show... I'm sorry. Let me correct myself.
1:01:57
Speaker 15: In that part of it, you don't see Jess and Envy.
1:02:00
Speaker 15: You just see the FaceTime video. But on that beginning
1:02:04
Speaker 15: part where Russell Simmons is here to clear up the
1:02:06
Speaker 15: age thing, you see you and you see him.
1:02:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom seen that yesterday. She's like, I seen
1:02:09
Speaker 2: you on the documentary.
1:02:11
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, listeners.
1:02:12
Speaker 1: I know that this story is about Kamara and Russell,
1:02:15
Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking about inside baseball business here. because
1:02:17
Speaker 1: they didn't ask for permission to use any of that
1:02:19
Speaker 1: stuff over at Lifetime.
1:02:21
Speaker 4: Not that I know of.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: And from what I've fact-checked here so far.
1:02:26
Speaker 4: So I need the white people to get on that.
1:02:27
Speaker 6: Get the white people, y'all. I am.
1:02:28
Speaker 2: I'm going to get the white people on the white
1:02:30
Speaker 2: people at Lifetime.
1:02:32
Speaker 15: Well, oh God. The last audio I will play from
1:02:38
Speaker 15: the doc is something that has been circulating. Kamora Lee Simmons.
1:02:41
Speaker 15: She talks about how Tyra Banks was actually trying to
1:02:43
Speaker 15: stop her from dating Russell Simmons. Let's take a listen
1:02:46
Speaker 15: to that.
1:02:47
Speaker 20: I remember Tyra Banks and so many other models used
1:02:52
Speaker 20: to say, oh, don't talk to him. I remember Tyra
1:02:55
Speaker 20: kept me in her apartment through the weekend trying to
1:02:58
Speaker 20: avoid me going home and checking my voicemail. Because we
1:03:01
Speaker 20: had a machine then that you had to push the button, right?
1:03:03
Speaker 20: Because we knew he was calling. I would be like,
1:03:06
Speaker 20: but he's so cool. He sent me these flowers. They'd
1:03:08
Speaker 20: be like, yeah, come on.
1:03:08
Speaker 6: We got those.
1:03:09
Speaker 2: Flowers last week.
1:03:10
Speaker 20: And I was always like, uh-oh, he wanted all of you?
1:03:13
Speaker 20: And now he wants me? And I think something about
1:03:15
Speaker 20: that made me like, yes. they say no you're like
1:03:18
Speaker 20: yes yeah.
1:03:19
Speaker 15: That she was young yeah that picked up pretty big
1:03:22
Speaker 15: but i think that's exactly what it was like she
1:03:23
Speaker 15: was young and she was new as a model and
1:03:26
Speaker 15: the friends that had already been modeling was like girl
1:03:28
Speaker 15: this ain't nothing new pump your brakes but yeah.
1:03:31
Speaker 6: This is here comes this guy with all this money
1:03:33
Speaker 6: and you know he's rich and he's showing his uh
1:03:37
Speaker 6: his charm he's sending you all type you know what
1:03:39
Speaker 6: i mean and she felt Like, oh, that's special.
1:03:43
Speaker 1: But listen, what is this doc about? Because, I mean,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: Russell and Kimora got married.
1:03:47
Speaker 4: They had kids.
1:03:48
Speaker 5: Had children.
1:03:50
Speaker 6: A reality show.
1:03:51
Speaker 1: Everybody watched it. We all knew the age difference way
1:03:54
Speaker 1: back when.
1:03:55
Speaker 15: It goes to different points in her life. A lot
1:03:57
Speaker 15: of it, though, is Russell, her, and the family. But
1:04:00
Speaker 15: it talks about her being young, moving to Paris, becoming
1:04:03
Speaker 15: the face of Chanel, leaving home.
1:04:04
Speaker 2: It's just her story?
1:04:05
Speaker 15: Yes, but it goes into Russell Simmons because that was
1:04:07
Speaker 15: a huge part of her life. And they address a
1:04:10
Speaker 15: lot of the things that she hasn't really formally talked
1:04:12
Speaker 15: about a lot. They do talk about, you know, when
1:04:14
Speaker 15: they had the children. They talk about the show that
1:04:17
Speaker 15: she had and them literally having, you know, a lot
1:04:20
Speaker 15: of their things on the show. They go into the
1:04:21
Speaker 15: baby's bed.
1:04:22
Speaker 2: She had a dope closet. I remember her closet.
1:04:23
Speaker 5: But there's no salaciousness, though.
1:04:24
Speaker 6: Like, there's nothing that they're trying to get us to, like,
1:04:27
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Yeah, I guess that's what
1:04:28
Speaker 6: I'm asking. Like, are they accusing him of anything?
1:04:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking, Jess.
1:04:30
Speaker 5: What's the intention?
1:04:31
Speaker 15: I can't tell you her intention, but what I took
1:04:34
Speaker 15: from it, she does point to the fact that she
1:04:37
Speaker 15: was very young and naive in the relationship with Russell Simmons.
1:04:40
Speaker 15: She does clearly say that she did not get what
1:04:43
Speaker 15: she deserved from Baby Phat when that deal was done,
1:04:44
Speaker 15: when Baby Phat was sold. She calls Russell Simmons crusty
1:04:48
Speaker 15: a lot.
1:04:49
Speaker 5: Krusty?
1:04:50
Speaker 15: Yeah.
1:04:51
Speaker 6: It's not a crime. It's not a crime to be Krusty.
1:04:54
Speaker 15: The way that I took it after she left the
1:04:57
Speaker 15: relationship was like she was kind of left high and
1:04:58
Speaker 15: dry having to figure it out with her kids because
1:05:00
Speaker 15: of how bad everything ended, of course, with the stock
1:05:03
Speaker 15: and everything they were arguing about.
1:05:05
Speaker 4: She was married to Krusty for 10 years. You had
1:05:07
Speaker 4: two kids from Krusty.
1:05:08
Speaker 15: But the way that she.
1:05:10
Speaker 4: I'm talking to her. I'm saying if I heard her
1:05:12
Speaker 4: say that.
1:05:13
Speaker 2: That's what I would be.
1:05:14
Speaker 15: But the way that she made it seem, though, is like.
1:05:16
Speaker 4: I guess I'm just trying to figure out what's the
1:05:18
Speaker 4: moral of the story.
1:05:18
Speaker 5: What's the teachable moment here?
1:05:20
Speaker 2: I think the.
1:05:20
Speaker 15: Teachable moment is, according to this documentary, when you're young
1:05:24
Speaker 15: and you're in something like that, be smart. Like, she
1:05:26
Speaker 15: said she didn't sign proper paperwork when it came to
1:05:28
Speaker 15: baby fat and the way the business was done. She
1:05:30
Speaker 15: didn't even think she had a contract.
1:05:31
Speaker 10: Like, she.
1:05:32
Speaker 2: You know, when I heard it this morning when you
1:05:33
Speaker 2: were talking behind the scenes about it, the first thing
1:05:35
Speaker 2: I thought about having four daughters is I wonder where
1:05:37
Speaker 2: her father was or if there was a male figure
1:05:39
Speaker 2: in her life, right? Because at that age at 17
1:05:42
Speaker 2: and she was talking to a 34, 35-year-old man, grown-ass man,
1:05:45
Speaker 2: and she's still a child. She's a teenager.
1:05:48
Speaker 4: My daughter's 18 and I don't want any 35-year-old.
1:05:50
Speaker 2: Coming around me. I'm just wondering where the male figure
1:05:53
Speaker 2: in her life, like, I don't want to say who
1:05:55
Speaker 2: allowed it to happen, but I wonder if that figure
1:05:57
Speaker 2: was there and if there was a father figure, if
1:05:59
Speaker 2: that would have happened.
1:05:59
Speaker 15: All she talks about, Majority, was her mom and her
1:06:02
Speaker 15: mom being a single mom and having to figure it
1:06:03
Speaker 15: out and then allowing her to move to Paris at 13.
1:06:06
Speaker 2: Because dad's out there.
1:06:08
Speaker 6: She don't talk about her father because you see she
1:06:10
Speaker 6: had Tyra Banks, who was like a bigger sister, you know,
1:06:13
Speaker 6: trying to protect her from it.
1:06:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, because dad's out there. Could you imagine having a
1:06:17
Speaker 2: 17-year-old girl and somebody bringing home a 35-year-old man? Hell no.
1:06:22
Speaker 15: But she also goes into her other relationships, too, after.
1:06:25
Speaker 15: It's just a lot of Russell Simmons, Kimora, because that
1:06:27
Speaker 15: was such a big deal for her. But, you know,
1:06:29
Speaker 15: I think the takeaway is if she knew better, she
1:06:31
Speaker 15: would have done better in certain situations. That was my takeaway. But, yeah,
1:06:35
Speaker 15: so that's the latest for the hour. And when we
1:06:37
Speaker 15: come back.
1:06:38
Speaker 4: And Russell should have done better, too, because there ain't
1:06:39
Speaker 4: no need to be 35 years old talking to no 17-year-old.
1:06:42
Speaker 5: No.
1:06:45
Speaker 15: Well, when we come back, we'll get into more of
1:06:48
Speaker 15: the latest. Kirk Franklin has this new track dropping with
1:06:51
Speaker 15: Glorilla on Friday.
1:06:54
Speaker 2: Will I go to heaven if I... take that record
1:06:57
Speaker 2: because it's dope well we'll talk about next.
1:06:59
Speaker 6: Hour because you do a lot for people so you're
1:07:02
Speaker 6: gonna go to heaven.
1:07:03
Speaker 15: Yeah don't make me accomplice in your sin thanks jess
1:07:05
Speaker 15: donkey today who you gonna donkey to um i want
1:07:07
Speaker 15: that brother david dennis jr to come to the front
1:07:09
Speaker 15: of the congregation yes the teachable moment in all of
1:07:12
Speaker 15: this we'll discuss.
1:07:13
Speaker 2: All right we'll get to that next it's the breakfast
1:07:14
Speaker 2: club good morning.
1:07:17
Speaker 5: It's time for Donkey of the Day.
1:07:19
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of donkeys out here in the streets.
1:07:22
Speaker 5: Call Donkey of the Day.
1:07:23
Speaker 15: It really caught me off guard.
1:07:25
Speaker 1: Once I saw the competition, I was like, dang.
1:07:31
Speaker 5: You are a donkey.
1:07:34
Speaker 4: Why so low?
1:07:35
Speaker 6: It's time.
1:07:38
Speaker 4: Exactly.
1:07:38
Speaker 5: On the Breakfast Club.
1:07:40
Speaker 1: Okay, Chalamet, who you giving Donkey of the Day to today? Well,
1:07:43
Speaker 1: Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, September 23rd. It goes
1:07:46
Speaker 1: to a journalist by the name of David Dennis Jr.
1:07:49
Speaker 1: He's a senior writer at Anscape. I've seen him on
1:07:54
Speaker 1: Around the Horn on ESPN quite a few times over
1:07:56
Speaker 1: the years. And brother, this is nothing personal, okay? But
1:07:59
Speaker 1: donkey of the day does not discriminate and it's a
1:08:01
Speaker 1: teachable moment.
1:08:02
Speaker 4: Now, if you haven't heard... Last week, David Dennis Jr.
1:08:05
Speaker 1: Posted a video on his personal Instagram page discussing why
1:08:09
Speaker 1: Chris Brown's fan base continues to give the singer unwavering
1:08:13
Speaker 1: support despite his past littered with legal issues.
1:08:18
Speaker 5: Let's listen.
1:08:19
Speaker 17: When I think about Chris Brown fans, you ask them, hey,
1:08:22
Speaker 17: why do you like Chris Brown? And they say things like, well,
1:08:24
Speaker 17: he only brutally assaulted Rihanna two decades ago when he
1:08:28
Speaker 17: apologized for it. And they kind of don't really acknowledge
1:08:31
Speaker 17: the fact that, yeah, he's still actively abusing women to
1:08:35
Speaker 17: this day and kind of never stopped. And when you
1:08:38
Speaker 17: kind of make these excuses. You sound worse. So I
1:08:41
Speaker 17: just think that if you love Chris Brown, love him
1:08:44
Speaker 17: for who he is. Because that's a real sign of love.
1:08:46
Speaker 17: Love him while he's abusing. And just be honest with yourself. Say,
1:08:50
Speaker 17: that man backflips so good that I don't care that
1:08:54
Speaker 17: he abuses women. I love his music more than I
1:08:57
Speaker 17: care about how he abuses women.
1:08:59
Speaker 2: Just say it.
1:09:01
Speaker 4: OK, let's unpack this.
1:09:02
Speaker 10: All right.
1:09:02
Speaker 1: David Dennis Jr. This pisses me off so bad. OK,
1:09:05
Speaker 1: this is the problem with the current media era that
1:09:08
Speaker 1: we're in. To everyone listening to my voice, your feelings
1:09:12
Speaker 1: are not facts. OK, there is a legitimate journalistic ethics problem.
1:09:17
Speaker 1: with the way David Dennis Jr. reported this. You can't
1:09:20
Speaker 1: declare something as an established fact if it's not an
1:09:23
Speaker 1: established fact, okay? And before I continue, I would like
1:09:26
Speaker 1: to say, this is not a defense of Chris Brown, okay?
1:09:29
Speaker 1: Chris Brown does not need Charlemagne Tha God to defend him.
1:09:31
Speaker 1: He's got Team Breezy for that, okay? Look, David, you
1:09:34
Speaker 1: brought up Chris Brown's past. You know, what he did
1:09:37
Speaker 1: to Rihanna in 2009, that's documented.
1:09:39
Speaker 5: He pleaded guilty to felony assault.
1:09:41
Speaker 4: That's a fact.
1:09:42
Speaker 1: Has he faced other serious accusations involving women since then? Yes,
1:09:46
Speaker 1: but those are accusations. If you want to discuss those accusations,
1:09:50
Speaker 1: fair game.
1:09:51
Speaker 5: But David Dennis Jr.
1:09:52
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be a journalist, and journalists don't get
1:09:55
Speaker 1: to turn allegations into facts just because you may believe
1:10:00
Speaker 1: the allegations, okay? Play the line that really grinds my gears.
1:10:04
Speaker 5: Do we have that line?
1:10:05
Speaker 17: They kind of don't really acknowledge the fact that, yeah,
1:10:08
Speaker 17: he's still actively abusing women to this day and kind
1:10:12
Speaker 17: of never stopped.
1:10:14
Speaker 1: Still actively abusing women to this day and kind of
1:10:18
Speaker 1: never stopped?
1:10:19
Speaker 6: Actively?
1:10:20
Speaker 5: To this day? Never stopped?
1:10:23
Speaker 1: Those aren't vague words. Okay, that's not Chris Brown has
1:10:26
Speaker 1: faced allegations. That's not Chris Brown has a troubling history.
1:10:29
Speaker 5: That's not.
1:10:31
Speaker 1: multiple women have accused chris brown of misconduct you said
1:10:33
Speaker 1: this man is actively abusing women right now and basically
1:10:38
Speaker 1: has been doing it continuously for 17 years provide evidence
1:10:42
Speaker 1: okay you gotta show proof all right you can talk
1:10:44
Speaker 1: about a person's allegations but you can't say he's actively
1:10:48
Speaker 1: abusing women to this day and kind of never stopped
1:10:52
Speaker 1: my god now chris brown replied And it's proof that
1:10:56
Speaker 1: when a dog barks at the moon, it's nothing.
1:10:59
Speaker 4: But if the moon was to bark back at the dog,
1:11:01
Speaker 4: it would be news.
1:11:02
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't even have known about this story if
1:11:04
Speaker 1: Chris Brown hadn't replied, okay? Now, Chris jumped in the
1:11:07
Speaker 1: comments and basically said, where's the proof that I'm currently
1:11:11
Speaker 1: abusing women? Show me the charges. Show me the convictions.
1:11:14
Speaker 1: Show me what the hell you're talking about.
1:11:16
Speaker 6: Now, I want.
1:11:18
Speaker 5: Now, no, no. I know what some of y'all, okay,
1:11:21
Speaker 5: might say, all right?
1:11:22
Speaker 1: Y'all might say, well, Chris, you don't need a criminal
1:11:25
Speaker 1: conviction for abuse to have happened, and plenty of abuse
1:11:28
Speaker 1: never results in a conviction, and yo, bring up the
1:11:31
Speaker 1: fact that Carrucci had a rescraining order against Chris Brown.
1:11:34
Speaker 1: All of that is correct, but guess what? That's not
1:11:36
Speaker 1: the point, okay? None of that can be collapsed into
1:11:40
Speaker 1: he's actively abusing women to this day, okay?
1:11:45
Speaker 4: The claim David made is the problem.
1:11:48
Speaker 1: Now, instead of David answering Chris's question, david responded with
1:11:52
Speaker 1: you've never laid a finger on or harmed any women
1:11:57
Speaker 1: in the past 17 years not once not a single
1:12:00
Speaker 1: time question mark every accusation and restraining order is false
1:12:05
Speaker 1: question mark david you are really trying to raise my
1:12:08
Speaker 1: cortisol levels this morning okay i am not the highest
1:12:10
Speaker 1: grade of weed in the dispensary nor am i the
1:12:12
Speaker 1: strongest avenger but i know That's not how journalism works. OK,
1:12:16
Speaker 1: I despise how Dennis tried to put the burden on
1:12:20
Speaker 1: Chris to prove the claim false. No, Dennis, you made
1:12:24
Speaker 1: the claim. So you need to provide evidence for the
1:12:27
Speaker 1: claim you published. OK, you made the statement. You don't
1:12:30
Speaker 1: get to make a definitive accusation. And then when somebody
1:12:33
Speaker 1: asks you to prove it, turn around and make them
1:12:36
Speaker 1: prove you wrong.
1:12:38
Speaker 4: What if I said.
1:12:40
Speaker 5: David Dennis Jr.
1:12:41
Speaker 1: Goes around sniffing random men's butts in public every Thursday.
1:12:46
Speaker 4: OK, David replied to me.
1:12:49
Speaker 9: What?
1:12:50
Speaker 5: Where's your proof?
1:12:51
Speaker 1: Then I say, well, David, are you saying you've never
1:12:54
Speaker 1: sniffed a man's butt?
1:12:56
Speaker 5: Question mark.
1:12:57
Speaker 4: Every Thursday. Question mark.
1:12:59
Speaker 5: Not once.
1:12:59
Speaker 4: Question mark.
1:13:00
Speaker 1: Just want to be clear. That's not how it would work.
1:13:03
Speaker 1: Since I made the claim that David Dennis Jr. sniffed butts,
1:13:06
Speaker 1: the burden is on me to prove my claims to
1:13:09
Speaker 1: be true. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is where social
1:13:12
Speaker 1: media has ruined journalism forever. Everybody wants to go viral.
1:13:16
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to clip. That's going to make people stop scrolling.
1:13:19
Speaker 1: But when you're a journalist, you need precision. OK, words matter.
1:13:23
Speaker 1: Alleged is a word for a reason.
1:13:25
Speaker 4: Accused.
1:13:26
Speaker 1: Is a word for a reason. Convicted is a word
1:13:29
Speaker 1: for a reason. Restraining order means something specific. And actively
1:13:33
Speaker 1: abusing women to this day, that means something specific too.
1:13:37
Speaker 5: You can't throw.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: All those things in a blender and serve them as
1:13:41
Speaker 1: the same smoothie, especially when you're a journalist. David, you're
1:13:46
Speaker 1: not some random person arguing in the shade room comments
1:13:50
Speaker 1: or some random YouTuber just ranting.
1:13:52
Speaker 4: You're a professional journalist.
1:13:54
Speaker 1: And that's probably why Chris Brown responded, because he understands.
1:13:57
Speaker 4: That your words carry a different responsibility.
1:14:00
Speaker 1: If there are documented incidents that support your statement, present them.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: If not, you've got to shut the F up forever.
1:14:07
Speaker 1: By the way, you didn't even need to do that
1:14:09
Speaker 1: to get your point across. OK, we all know Chris
1:14:12
Speaker 1: Brown's actual documented history.
1:14:13
Speaker 4: It gives you plenty to talk about.
1:14:15
Speaker 1: You can criticize Chris Brown without exaggerating anything. You can
1:14:18
Speaker 1: report the other accusations that have been made against him.
1:14:21
Speaker 1: But you've got to explain what happened with those cases. OK,
1:14:24
Speaker 1: tell people what is documented and then let them decide
1:14:27
Speaker 1: what they think about Chris Brown.
1:14:29
Speaker 5: By the way.
1:14:30
Speaker 1: You can tell by the sold out arenas around the
1:14:32
Speaker 1: world that his fans have already made up their mind.
1:14:35
Speaker 1: But to me, this is bigger than Chris Brown.
1:14:37
Speaker 5: This is about journalism.
1:14:39
Speaker 4: OK, and just journalism.
1:14:41
Speaker 18: All right.
1:14:41
Speaker 5: Just the era we live in as a whole.
1:14:44
Speaker 1: We live in a time where people decide allegations are
1:14:48
Speaker 1: automatically facts whenever we don't like the person being accused.
1:14:53
Speaker 5: That bothers me.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: OK, principles aren't principles if they only apply to people
1:14:58
Speaker 1: you like. You can believe every allegation against Chris Brown
1:15:02
Speaker 1: you want. But an accusation isn't a conviction. An allegation
1:15:07
Speaker 1: isn't automatically a fact simply because it fits what you
1:15:10
Speaker 1: already believe about somebody.
1:15:12
Speaker 5: And David, you're a journalist. You should know better. Please
1:15:16
Speaker 5: give David Dennis Jr.
1:15:17
Speaker 4: The sweet sounds and the hammer tones.
1:15:19
Speaker 16: Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You
1:15:27
Speaker 16: are the donkey of the day.
1:15:32
Speaker 2: Yeehaw.
1:15:36
Speaker 4: I can't stand it. I'm telling you.
1:15:37
Speaker 6: I can't stand it either.
1:15:38
Speaker 1: We live in an era where people decide allegations are
1:15:41
Speaker 1: automatically facts whenever we don't like the person being accused.
1:15:44
Speaker 4: That's not how this should work.
1:15:46
Speaker 6: I can't stand that. And I think Wale had a tweet.
1:15:50
Speaker 6: He tweeted like a year ago, the demise of journalism,
1:15:54
Speaker 6: like and how he can't stand to where like seeing
1:16:00
Speaker 6: how downhill it went because it's spiraling because social media
1:16:04
Speaker 6: messes up.
1:16:04
Speaker 2: There's more headlines. Like we said before, you know, the nasty,
1:16:07
Speaker 2: the headlines, the worst, the headlines, the more clicks you get,
1:16:10
Speaker 2: the more engagement you get. And for a lot of people,
1:16:12
Speaker 2: when they do this stuff on TikTok or YouTube or
1:16:15
Speaker 2: Instagram or threads or X, they get paid for it.
1:16:18
Speaker 2: So it's a more engagement. The more you get paid
1:16:20
Speaker 2: and and if they see it working, they keep doing it. Well,
1:16:23
Speaker 2: even if it is a lie, even if it's made up.
1:16:26
Speaker 2: What if it is a butt sniffer? And on Thursday,
1:16:29
Speaker 2: that's what he does.
1:16:29
Speaker 5: Shut up.
1:16:30
Speaker 2: Thank you for that donkey today, Charlemagne.
1:16:32
Speaker 4: Okay. That was just an example.
1:16:33
Speaker 5: All right.
1:16:33
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
1:16:34
Speaker 2: That's what I said. What if? Now, when we come back.
1:16:37
Speaker 4: No, it's not a what if. The man doesn't sniff
1:16:38
Speaker 4: butts that we know of.
1:16:39
Speaker 5: Stop.
1:16:40
Speaker 7: Shut up.
1:16:40
Speaker 4: Don't even do this to me right now.
1:16:42
Speaker 6: Calm down.
1:16:44
Speaker 2: When we come back, Morgan DeBond will be joining us.
1:16:48
Speaker 2: She is the founder of Afrotech and CEO of Blavity Incorporated.
1:16:52
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to her next. So don't move.
1:16:54
Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
1:16:55
Speaker 5: Morning, everybody.
1:16:56
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
1:16:59
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Lola Rose is here as well. We
1:17:02
Speaker 2: got a special guest in the building.
1:17:03
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
1:17:04
Speaker 2: We have Morgan DeBond.
1:17:05
Speaker 6: Welcome.
1:17:05
Speaker 7: Hey, everybody.
1:17:06
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
1:17:07
Speaker 11: Feeling good.
1:17:08
Speaker 6: Hey.
1:17:10
Speaker 4: Happy to have you, man. You know, Afrotech, of course,
1:17:13
Speaker 4: you know, Blavity.
1:17:15
Speaker 5: Blavity.
1:17:15
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I wanted to talk to you about a lot
1:17:18
Speaker 1: of things because I feel like, you know, lately you've
1:17:20
Speaker 1: had to spend more time proving black people are a
1:17:24
Speaker 1: valuable market than explaining why your company is actually valuable.
1:17:28
Speaker 7: True.
1:17:29
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, in this day and age where D &
1:17:30
Speaker 11: I is totally being attacked left and right, it's almost
1:17:33
Speaker 11: as if it's become cool to be like, no, we
1:17:35
Speaker 11: actually don't care. We have no consequences for not caring.
1:17:39
Speaker 11: It's interesting to also be like, but if you care
1:17:41
Speaker 11: about bottom line growth, then you're going to have to
1:17:43
Speaker 11: care about multicultural eventually for your company. You're going to
1:17:46
Speaker 11: have to care about advertising to us, for us, because
1:17:48
Speaker 11: the next generation is so diverse. So at some point,
1:17:52
Speaker 11: it's going to flip back. And we're going to be like,
1:17:55
Speaker 11: where were you? What were you doing? You didn't stand
1:17:57
Speaker 11: 10 tones down for us. And I think that we're
1:18:01
Speaker 11: seeing that with different brands kind of going back and
1:18:03
Speaker 11: forth on do we care, do we not care? And yeah,
1:18:07
Speaker 11: it's been an interesting few years since Trump's been reelected.
1:18:09
Speaker 5: Because advertising is huge.
1:18:11
Speaker 11: Aberdeen is huge, 40,000 people.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: And it makes me, like, you know, and I hear
1:18:14
Speaker 1: you say if it wasn't a black tech company, people
1:18:18
Speaker 1: would just look at it as one of the largest
1:18:19
Speaker 1: tech conferences.
1:18:20
Speaker 2: In the world.
1:18:21
Speaker 3: 100%.
1:18:21
Speaker 11: We're three times the size of TechCrunch Disrupt. We're the
1:18:23
Speaker 11: second largest trade show for black folks in the country.
1:18:26
Speaker 11: Essence is number one. We're number two. And we have
1:18:29
Speaker 11: over 100 tech companies that come and advertise, recruit, and
1:18:32
Speaker 11: do all types of stuff for us, right? So it's
1:18:35
Speaker 11: interesting that we have to justify the investment in our community.
1:18:39
Speaker 4: That's right.
1:18:39
Speaker 15: The video, I was saying that I saved a video
1:18:42
Speaker 15: to talk to you about today. You made a video
1:18:43
Speaker 15: when the whole earn your leisure conversation was going on, right?
1:18:47
Speaker 15: And you were talking about how that like, because your
1:18:50
Speaker 15: business is, I mean, because your conference is Afrotech and
1:18:53
Speaker 15: it's like branded for black people, the difference in like
1:18:56
Speaker 15: partnerships and like all these things. Talk a bit about that.
1:19:00
Speaker 15: And then about, do we do a good enough job
1:19:02
Speaker 15: at holding people accountable in that video?
1:19:04
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:19:05
Speaker 11: I mean, I think the thing with Afrotech is 40,000 people,
1:19:08
Speaker 11: These are your smartest folks. These are people working at
1:19:10
Speaker 11: big tech companies. These are VCs, venture capitalists. Less than 1%
1:19:14
Speaker 11: of VC funding goes to black people still to this day,
1:19:18
Speaker 11: despite our huge influence, right? And we shouldn't have to
1:19:21
Speaker 11: beg for people to take our community seriously, right? Multi-trillion
1:19:26
Speaker 11: dollar buying power. So when it comes to earn your
1:19:29
Speaker 11: leisure and InvestFest, similarly, they have a huge audience. Take
1:19:33
Speaker 11: black out of it. It's a huge moment. Another 40,000
1:19:36
Speaker 11: people Sitting in a room. It's very rare. You don't
1:19:40
Speaker 11: see white conferences with 40,000 people. Name one.
1:19:43
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
1:19:45
Speaker 2: They don't exist.
1:19:47
Speaker 11: Unless they're seriously very tech or industry focused, but not
1:19:52
Speaker 11: just people coming together as a part of their culture.
1:19:55
Speaker 7: Yeah, nah.
1:19:56
Speaker 11: So why do we have to even have a conversation
1:19:59
Speaker 11: to justify an investment for brands spending millions of dollars
1:20:03
Speaker 11: on this audience?
1:20:04
Speaker 2: Do you think we're too hard on ourselves? We see
1:20:07
Speaker 2: it with Essence. We see it with InvestFest.
1:20:09
Speaker 11: You know, every year around this time, I go off
1:20:11
Speaker 11: social media. So it looks like I'm still online. But
1:20:13
Speaker 11: like the online discourse from our community to one another,
1:20:17
Speaker 11: for the people who've actually decided to build for us,
1:20:19
Speaker 11: it's atrocious.
1:20:20
Speaker 6: It's atrocious.
1:20:21
Speaker 11: Threads is like, I'm sure they're going to clip this
1:20:23
Speaker 11: and be like, oh, here she go. But Threads is
1:20:25
Speaker 11: like so toxic.
1:20:26
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
1:20:27
Speaker 11: We're so toxic to one another. For the people who
1:20:29
Speaker 11: are actually taking the risk to invest in themselves, invest
1:20:32
Speaker 11: in their business, hire black people at their companies. Those
1:20:35
Speaker 11: are the ones you're going to attack. where's the same
1:20:37
Speaker 11: heat for Donald Trump? Like we talk more about each
1:20:40
Speaker 11: other than we do about politicians.
1:20:43
Speaker 6: Cause my thing is, how do you turn that around? Like,
1:20:45
Speaker 6: how do you, it still seems like that's going to
1:20:48
Speaker 6: be just what it is. How do you stop our
1:20:51
Speaker 6: own from tearing down our own? Even when we ain't
1:20:55
Speaker 6: doing nothing wrong. It's just, it's always a flaw that
1:20:58
Speaker 6: you find that, well, that they find in something.
1:21:01
Speaker 11: You know, I've had to do a lot of like
1:21:02
Speaker 11: self-reflection to be able to even show up after. I mean,
1:21:05
Speaker 11: Afrotech's over a decade, right? That's we're celebrating 10 years
1:21:08
Speaker 11: this year. And one of the things that I tell
1:21:11
Speaker 11: myself is I have to come from a place of compassion.
1:21:13
Speaker 11: It's because we are the few that have made it.
1:21:15
Speaker 11: We are the few who have become this platform. And therefore,
1:21:20
Speaker 11: if not us, then who? So if we're not the
1:21:23
Speaker 11: ones advocating and building these platforms, these businesses and giving
1:21:27
Speaker 11: back to our community.
1:21:27
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:21:28
Speaker 11: Then who else would be doing it? And so they
1:21:31
Speaker 11: feel really attached to the perfection, you know, everything that
1:21:35
Speaker 11: we say we're going to do that we do, you know,
1:21:36
Speaker 11: and I'm not saying we shouldn't hold ourselves to high standards.
1:21:38
Speaker 11: I'm all for feedback, but the personal attack is crazy.
1:21:41
Speaker 4: Is there a danger in calling something a black tech company?
1:21:46
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so. I don't think anyone should call
1:21:48
Speaker 11: themselves a black tech company today. Not in this market.
1:21:51
Speaker 11: Absolutely not.
1:21:52
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to convince someone that serving black
1:21:55
Speaker 1: people doesn't mean your business, I guess, has a black
1:21:57
Speaker 1: size ceiling, whatever.
1:21:59
Speaker 11: You know, I advise a lot of startups and founders.
1:22:01
Speaker 11: You know, I've raised over $ 12 million in venture funding
1:22:03
Speaker 11: a long time ago. So I've been in this game
1:22:05
Speaker 11: for a minute. I started in Silicon Valley working in tech.
1:22:08
Speaker 11: And when I talk to young founders who are trying
1:22:11
Speaker 11: to figure out what they should build and they're Black,
1:22:13
Speaker 11: I definitely suggest go after the biggest market possible. Like,
1:22:18
Speaker 11: go after the largest market. You can still serve Black people.
1:22:22
Speaker 11: You're going to because you are Black. So you're going
1:22:24
Speaker 11: to naturally... be more inclusive in how you operate, but
1:22:27
Speaker 11: let's go for the gold. Like why we don't need to, uh,
1:22:31
Speaker 11: just serve our people all the time when it comes
1:22:33
Speaker 11: to building something that people are trying to build billion
1:22:35
Speaker 11: dollar businesses on. We don't have that many black billionaires
1:22:38
Speaker 11: that are billionaires off of black products and services. There's
1:22:41
Speaker 11: like a handful.
1:22:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:22:43
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only been one that, I mean, there's
1:22:45
Speaker 1: only been the largest exit has been, uh, BET with
1:22:48
Speaker 1: Bob Johnson.
1:22:49
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:22:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:22:51
Speaker 6: That's right.
1:22:51
Speaker 11: And then, You know, Rich Dennis in essence and Shea Moisture.
1:22:57
Speaker 4: So does the black company thing, does it help us
1:23:00
Speaker 4: or limit us?
1:23:02
Speaker 11: I think it's limiting right now.
1:23:03
Speaker 4: Just because of the political climate?
1:23:05
Speaker 11: You can't get investors. It's hard to get multicultural dollars.
1:23:08
Speaker 11: I mean, they're completely laying off and firing anybody with
1:23:12
Speaker 11: a DEI title still to this day. The executive order
1:23:16
Speaker 11: from Stephen Miller, led by Stephen Miller, is still causing
1:23:20
Speaker 11: a ripple effect in terms of contractors, companies that have
1:23:23
Speaker 11: contracts with the federal government, they're under a lens. And
1:23:26
Speaker 11: so one thing about Afrotech that we were intentional, even
1:23:28
Speaker 11: before all of this happened, was we don't even call
1:23:30
Speaker 11: Afrotech like a black conference in that way. When you
1:23:33
Speaker 11: go on stage at Afrotech, we're not like, oh, it's
1:23:35
Speaker 11: so exciting for.
1:23:36
Speaker 15: You to be black.
1:23:36
Speaker 11: How do you become black in tech? How do you
1:23:38
Speaker 11: become black product manager? How do you raise black dollars?
1:23:40
Speaker 11: We're not talking about that. We're talking about AI. We're
1:23:42
Speaker 11: talking about cybersecurity. We're talking about what certifications do you need?
1:23:45
Speaker 11: We're talking about how do you scale to a million users?
1:23:48
Speaker 6: Because.
1:23:49
Speaker 11: That's actually what's going to unlock the next level of
1:23:52
Speaker 11: us being self-sufficient as a community. It's not going to
1:23:54
Speaker 11: be us playing their game. We're not going to win that.
1:23:57
Speaker 11: I think we tried. It's not working.
1:23:58
Speaker 2: You talk about advertisement and you're saying it's not as
1:24:02
Speaker 2: easy to get advertisement as some of these other conferences
1:24:04
Speaker 2: and other networks. What makes it more difficult and why
1:24:06
Speaker 2: are they saying no?
1:24:08
Speaker 11: I think it's risky for some of them. I think
1:24:10
Speaker 11: they have to jump through so many hoops.
1:24:11
Speaker 2: What's risky about Afrotech? What's risky?
1:24:14
Speaker 11: They don't want to target on their back from the
1:24:15
Speaker 11: federal government. They're terrified of these people.
1:24:19
Speaker 8: Terrified.
1:24:20
Speaker 11: They've been very successful at making companies say, we don't
1:24:25
Speaker 11: want the risk of being bothered. And again, the question is,
1:24:30
Speaker 11: what do we say? Do we say, okay, we're out then. Like,
1:24:34
Speaker 11: I shouldn't have to beg you for the privilege to
1:24:37
Speaker 11: advertise to our people. Or do I say, well, let
1:24:42
Speaker 11: me play the game. Let me meet you where you are.
1:24:45
Speaker 11: Let me do the dance. And then, because we need
1:24:48
Speaker 11: this institution to continue to survive and we need to
1:24:51
Speaker 11: pay our teams, the thousands of staffers that we have,
1:24:53
Speaker 11: the businesses that we support, we have to do that.
1:24:56
Speaker 11: So it's this constant delicate balance. There's some companies that
1:24:58
Speaker 11: my team and I'm like, Oh, you can keep that 500.
1:25:02
Speaker 6: You can keep it. I was just about to ask
1:25:03
Speaker 6: you was, is there any moment where you're like, look, no,
1:25:06
Speaker 6: we're not even going to do this.
1:25:07
Speaker 5: Okay.
1:25:08
Speaker 6: So there are moments.
1:25:09
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:25:09
Speaker 11: We're like, I'm good.
1:25:10
Speaker 6: Yeah. And then, And then there are moments where you
1:25:12
Speaker 6: do have to play the game, but at what point
1:25:15
Speaker 6: do you stop playing the game? You throw your hands out.
1:25:19
Speaker 6: This ain't benefiting me. It's benefiting y'all more. It's not
1:25:21
Speaker 6: benefiting me as much.
1:25:22
Speaker 11: That just happened this summer. And it's a constant dialogue.
1:25:26
Speaker 11: It's so funny because if you look at the public sentiment,
1:25:29
Speaker 11: you know, there's all these people on threads and all
1:25:31
Speaker 11: these different places that think that we all just say, like,
1:25:34
Speaker 11: we're just going to take any dollar.
1:25:35
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:25:36
Speaker 11: Do you know how much money I've left on the
1:25:39
Speaker 11: table to be, like, morally in alignment with y'all.
1:25:43
Speaker 4: Lord have mercy.
1:25:45
Speaker 11: They have no idea.
1:25:46
Speaker 2: I don't even want to talk about it.
1:25:48
Speaker 1: I don't even, because sometimes, you know, you'll get those
1:25:52
Speaker 1: phone calls and be like, hey, such and such wants
1:25:55
Speaker 1: to advertise and blah, blah, blah, this and that.
1:25:57
Speaker 4: And you'll be like, but you know, this is going
1:25:58
Speaker 4: to be backlash.
1:25:58
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there thinking, they're going to run them
1:26:00
Speaker 1: same commercials somewhere else and nobody's going to say shit.
1:26:03
Speaker 16: Oh, word.
1:26:04
Speaker 14: And I see it.
1:26:04
Speaker 11: I'm literally like, oh, so-and-so said yes to this. I
1:26:06
Speaker 11: can literally see it. I'm like, oh, Esa said yes
1:26:09
Speaker 11: to that. Oh, Ravel said yes to that.
1:26:11
Speaker 2: I can, I can see it. It's the same RFP.
1:26:13
Speaker 1: It has to be a Robin Hood mentality. And what
1:26:17
Speaker 1: I mean by that is Robin Hood would take from
1:26:18
Speaker 1: the rich to get back to the poor.
1:26:20
Speaker 4: It has to be that.
1:26:21
Speaker 11: But we also have to have boundaries at some point
1:26:23
Speaker 11: of what's the lowest price we're willing to sell for.
1:26:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true too.
1:26:26
Speaker 11: Especially if we're the last guardrail between us and our
1:26:30
Speaker 11: people and the capitalists, we have to have some sort
1:26:34
Speaker 11: of boundary. But that boundary shifts, I would say, depending
1:26:38
Speaker 11: on the company, depending on their track record. depending on
1:26:42
Speaker 11: who's in leadership, the intent behind it. Is it just a,
1:26:47
Speaker 11: you know, checkbox? Is it a band-aid? Because you really
1:26:50
Speaker 11: messed up and now you need to show something shiny
1:26:53
Speaker 11: over here?
1:26:54
Speaker 6: Or are you actually.
1:26:55
Speaker 11: Trying to do something that's going to have an economic
1:26:57
Speaker 11: benefit to the rest of us? So it's a constant conversation.
1:27:02
Speaker 4: Does it matter sometimes?
1:27:05
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, like, who cares
1:27:07
Speaker 1: why they decide they want to give a black company,
1:27:10
Speaker 1: the money is going to a black company.
1:27:12
Speaker 5: I care more.
1:27:12
Speaker 4: Like I know your intention. I don't care who gave
1:27:15
Speaker 4: you the money. I know what Morgan is going to
1:27:17
Speaker 4: do with that money.
1:27:18
Speaker 11: My nervous system disagrees. I need to be able to
1:27:25
Speaker 11: wake up every morning and look myself in the mirror
1:27:28
Speaker 11: and say, yeah.
1:27:30
Speaker 7: Right.
1:27:30
Speaker 11: And sometimes I will take the check because I'm like,
1:27:33
Speaker 11: you know what? That is like these three people's salaries.
1:27:35
Speaker 11: And they have been asking for a raise and we
1:27:36
Speaker 11: haven't been able to do it. And now I'm going
1:27:38
Speaker 11: to do this. And now they get a raise.
1:27:39
Speaker 4: That's right.
1:27:40
Speaker 11: So I will justify sometimes for those things. But it's tough.
1:27:44
Speaker 6: It's a tough question.
1:27:45
Speaker 1: And it's hard to discuss business with people who don't
1:27:47
Speaker 1: got nothing.
1:27:49
Speaker 12: True.
1:27:50
Speaker 11: They don't get it.
1:27:50
Speaker 5: They don't understand your mindset.
1:27:51
Speaker 12: But do they have to get it?
1:27:53
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
1:27:54
Speaker 9: Right.
1:27:55
Speaker 15: I mean, they don't, but then you have things that
1:27:57
Speaker 15: happen like when Essence Festival gets all that bad conversation
1:28:00
Speaker 15: around it, knowing that in a business, things happen that
1:28:03
Speaker 15: you got to correct sometimes.
1:28:05
Speaker 16: Right.
1:28:05
Speaker 15: But it puts them in a position where the following year,
1:28:07
Speaker 15: because of that backlash, certain things are supporting certain things
1:28:10
Speaker 15: or not.
1:28:11
Speaker 11: You know, I think that there's some level of criticism
1:28:14
Speaker 11: that is always, there's some truth in all, in some
1:28:17
Speaker 11: sort of like large sets of criticism, in my opinion.
1:28:20
Speaker 11: You just have to decide, do you care or do
1:28:22
Speaker 11: you not care? Do you want to take action? Do
1:28:24
Speaker 11: you not take action? Like there was a time when Afrotech,
1:28:26
Speaker 11: when people were really mad, you know, we started off very,
1:28:27
Speaker 11: very techie because we were based in Silicon Valley. It
1:28:30
Speaker 11: was very much for engineers, nerds. And as it grew,
1:28:33
Speaker 11: we had a lot of people come in from the
1:28:35
Speaker 11: music industry, from the film industry, from culture. And people
1:28:39
Speaker 11: were like, where's the tech? Like, where's the tech in Afrotech?
1:28:43
Speaker 11: And I was like, you know what? We maybe went
1:28:45
Speaker 11: a little too far to the left. We should make
1:28:49
Speaker 11: sure that we have proper, in-depth, hands-on workshops where people
1:28:53
Speaker 11: who are very technical can still get value out of
1:28:54
Speaker 11: this space and still grow from this space.
1:28:57
Speaker 15: It was valid feedback.
1:28:58
Speaker 11: How they delivered it, a little rough, but valid.
1:29:02
Speaker 4: My last question, because I know you got a goal.
1:29:03
Speaker 1: What has building a black company taught you about black
1:29:07
Speaker 1: people's relationship with ownership that you couldn't have understood before
1:29:11
Speaker 1: becoming this CEO that you've become?
1:29:15
Speaker 11: I used to believe that the goal was instead of
1:29:18
Speaker 11: more white millionaires and billionaires, we need more black millionaires
1:29:21
Speaker 11: and billionaires. And I don't know that I believe that
1:29:23
Speaker 11: that is the answer anymore. Like now having reached a
1:29:26
Speaker 11: certain level, and having access to tons of billionaires, I
1:29:30
Speaker 11: don't believe that that is going to save us.
1:29:32
Speaker 4: What do you think? Institutions, infrastructure?
1:29:34
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:29:35
Speaker 11: It's institutions. It's community benefits within our institutions. And that
1:29:41
Speaker 11: being a part of the cycle, it can't just be
1:29:43
Speaker 11: about profits, profits, profits. It won't work for this next generation.
1:29:47
Speaker 11: And with the evolution of AI and the future of work,
1:29:49
Speaker 11: it's just not going to work in our favor to
1:29:52
Speaker 11: only care about getting a certain level of wealth.
1:29:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you need people who get the money
1:29:57
Speaker 1: but are also intentional about building that infrastructure within certain communities.
1:30:01
Speaker 6: That's right.
1:30:02
Speaker 11: And some people are doing good at that, and there's
1:30:03
Speaker 11: some people in our community that just, they don't care.
1:30:06
Speaker 2: Tell them when Afrotech is and everything. Give them all
1:30:08
Speaker 2: the information so they know.
1:30:08
Speaker 11: Yeah, Afrotech's November 2nd through 6th in Houston. It's our
1:30:12
Speaker 11: third or fourth year in Houston. Houston's been holding us down.
1:30:14
Speaker 11: It's a lot of fun and also a lot of work.
1:30:17
Speaker 11: Come to be curious with an open heart. It's a
1:30:20
Speaker 11: life-changing experience. If you've ever been thinking about, how can
1:30:23
Speaker 11: I build something? I have an idea. I have something
1:30:25
Speaker 11: on my heart to provide back into this community. I
1:30:28
Speaker 11: want to get into tech, or I want to build
1:30:31
Speaker 11: on top of this AI revolution.
1:30:33
Speaker 9: Come.
1:30:34
Speaker 11: We've got something for you.
1:30:35
Speaker 2: Are the student tickets done? Somebody asked me about the
1:30:37
Speaker 2: student tickets.
1:30:37
Speaker 11: Student tickets are sold out.
1:30:38
Speaker 6: The kids don't play.
1:30:40
Speaker 2: The kids don't play.
1:30:42
Speaker 6: What's the website?
1:30:43
Speaker 11: AfroTechConference.com.
1:30:44
Speaker 10: All right.
1:30:45
Speaker 2: Morgan DeBond, thank you for joining us so much.
1:30:46
Speaker 7: Thanks, guys.
1:30:47
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the
1:30:48
Speaker 2: latest with Lauren.
1:30:50
Speaker 4: Lauren, you're coming to the street, baby.
1:30:52
Speaker 9: We up!
1:30:53
Speaker 2: Talk to me, Hot Dog Lo.
1:31:15
Speaker 15: How are y'all? Good morning. So Lionel Richie, yesterday I
1:31:19
Speaker 15: got this alert. TMZ broke the story exclusively. And I
1:31:22
Speaker 15: was like, man, again, he is hospitalized. And he's back
1:31:26
Speaker 15: in the hospital because of another heart issue. So the
1:31:29
Speaker 15: last time we talked about this, remember, he had kind
1:31:32
Speaker 15: of checked himself into the hospital because he was dizzy.
1:31:35
Speaker 15: And then they found out that it was something related
1:31:36
Speaker 15: to cardiac, related to his heart. So because of this
1:31:39
Speaker 15: time right now, him, Earth, Wind & Fire have decided
1:31:41
Speaker 15: to cancel their next three shows. He's currently being hospitalized
1:31:44
Speaker 15: and receiving treatment for a regular heartbeat. Now, they're going
1:31:47
Speaker 15: to do, according to TMZ and their sources, doctors. And
1:31:50
Speaker 15: I think I actually saw the tour page post this
1:31:53
Speaker 15: on Instagram as well, too. The doctors are going to
1:31:56
Speaker 15: do this procedure. It's not a major procedure. It's minimally invasive.
1:32:00
Speaker 15: It's a treatment that cures tiny scars around the heart.
1:32:04
Speaker 15: that block like these electrical signals and help restore a
1:32:07
Speaker 15: normal heart rhythm.
1:32:09
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
1:32:09
Speaker 15: I think maybe I don't know if I would want
1:32:11
Speaker 15: him to push through this tour. This is like three times. Yeah,
1:32:15
Speaker 15: like I think he should just really.
1:32:17
Speaker 5: He definitely needs to sit down and come off tour.
1:32:20
Speaker 15: It ain't about the money for him. I know it's
1:32:22
Speaker 15: about the love of, you know, performing.
1:32:23
Speaker 6: In the artistry.
1:32:24
Speaker 5: Lionel kicked up.
1:32:26
Speaker 4: Lionel probably spending money from 1970-something.
1:32:29
Speaker 5: But he needs to come to New York and come
1:32:30
Speaker 5: see Dr.
1:32:30
Speaker 7: Puma.
1:32:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to go see Dr. Puma, check on
1:32:32
Speaker 2: his heart.
1:32:33
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:32:33
Speaker 2: That'll get him right.
1:32:34
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, sending him some love and some
1:32:37
Speaker 15: prayers this morning. Get well soon. In other news, yesterday
1:32:40
Speaker 15: there was a conversation that Ryan Clark had with Craig Melvin.
1:32:43
Speaker 15: And we learned a bit more about that new show
1:32:46
Speaker 15: that they had, Pivot Sports, on YouTube that we talked about.
1:32:48
Speaker 15: And I was telling you guys how amazing the production
1:32:50
Speaker 15: looks and all these things. So Ryan Clark is speaking
1:32:53
Speaker 15: out about a billionaire who reached out to him to
1:32:55
Speaker 15: get involved as an investor and help them kick that off.
1:32:58
Speaker 15: Let's take a listen to Ryan Clark with Craig Melvin
1:33:00
Speaker 15: on Howard Schultz.
1:33:02
Speaker 13: Probably four days afterwards, my PR people hit me like,
1:33:07
Speaker 13: Howard Schultz wants to talk to you.
1:33:09
Speaker 4: The Starbucks billionaire.
1:33:10
Speaker 9: Yes.
1:33:11
Speaker 13: He talks about this deep dive he's done on me
1:33:13
Speaker 13: since he saw it happen, how he wants to not
1:33:16
Speaker 13: only be a part of my comeback, but he believes
1:33:19
Speaker 13: that I'm a brand, which I hadn't heard from somebody
1:33:22
Speaker 13: of his stature who didn't look like me. And he said,
1:33:25
Speaker 13: can we get on a Zoom? And then he said,
1:33:27
Speaker 13: how can I help you? And I told him that
1:33:29
Speaker 13: I wanted to do a show. And from there, he
1:33:32
Speaker 13: was like, wait, why would we just talk about doing
1:33:34
Speaker 13: one show? I believe that in you being a brand,
1:33:36
Speaker 13: we can build an entire network. And I don't want
1:33:39
Speaker 13: you to have to go ask to be accepted. Since then, man,
1:33:43
Speaker 13: there hasn't been a day that we haven't spoken or
1:33:47
Speaker 13: text or he hasn't been working to help me bring
1:33:50
Speaker 13: this to fruition.
1:33:52
Speaker 1: Well, salute to the good brother, Ryan Clark. I don't
1:33:54
Speaker 1: know why we're using that sweaty-ass picture of Ryan Clark.
1:33:56
Speaker 1: But salute to the good brother, Ryan Clark. Howard Schultz
1:34:01
Speaker 1: isn't just investing in Ryan's next show, as you heard.
1:34:03
Speaker 1: He's investing in Ryan as a brand and a business.
1:34:07
Speaker 1: And that's the difference between, you know, getting another job. Like,
1:34:10
Speaker 1: Ryan is building something that can outlive him.
1:34:12
Speaker 5: So salute to the good.
1:34:13
Speaker 4: Brother, Ryan Clark. Drop on the clues box for Ryan Clark.
1:34:15
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
1:34:16
Speaker 5: I saw Ryan yesterday.
1:34:17
Speaker 4: I did the pivot yesterday.
1:34:18
Speaker 5: Oh, dope.
1:34:19
Speaker 15: Oh nice though but she was on there talking about
1:34:21
Speaker 15: that strong.
1:34:22
Speaker 2: Neck wow awesome all right let's.
1:34:25
Speaker 15: Move on god is good speaking of kirk franklin y'all
1:34:28
Speaker 15: remember i did the uh the intimate conversation with kirk
1:34:30
Speaker 15: franklin and we got to talk through a lot of
1:34:33
Speaker 15: his music and his new i am what i am
1:34:35
Speaker 15: album that is going to be coming out this fall
1:34:37
Speaker 15: yes and i told you guys that he was going
1:34:38
Speaker 15: to be dropping a track this friday Yes.
1:34:41
Speaker 4: You said you wasn't supposed to say who was on it, though.
1:34:44
Speaker 5: He gave you permission?
1:34:45
Speaker 8: Yes.
1:34:45
Speaker 15: So, I mean, they're previewing the track places. We have it.
1:34:48
Speaker 15: Kirk Franklin will be dropping a record called This Time
1:34:51
Speaker 15: featuring Glorilla this Friday. And we have a snippet of it.
1:34:55
Speaker 15: Let's take a listen.
1:34:58
Speaker 2: I could be in the dirt right now, but instead
1:35:05
Speaker 2: I'm on a beach.
1:35:06
Speaker 4: Not Kirk Franklin, a.k.a. Holy Low. Featuring Hallelujah Woods.
1:35:12
Speaker 1: That's Holy Low and Hallelujah Woods right there.
1:35:16
Speaker 6: That song is tough.
1:35:17
Speaker 5: I need to hear that whole tune. Play that whole
1:35:19
Speaker 5: tune for me one time, man.
1:35:21
Speaker 6: We got it in the mix. I love it.
1:35:25
Speaker 15: Are you allowed to snipe gospel music, though?
1:35:28
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that. I don't know if.
1:35:29
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it's okay.
1:35:31
Speaker 4: Y'all wasn't supposed to play that?
1:35:32
Speaker 18: No.
1:35:33
Speaker 12: Why not?
1:35:34
Speaker 5: It's not out?
1:35:35
Speaker 9: No.
1:35:35
Speaker 6: It comes out Friday.
1:35:36
Speaker 4: Oh, all right.
1:35:38
Speaker 6: Okay, give him a little taste. It's okay.
1:35:40
Speaker 5: It's all right.
1:35:40
Speaker 6: Give him a little taste.
1:35:41
Speaker 4: I don't think he would mind. You just played a
1:35:43
Speaker 4: little snippet of it. I don't think the Lord would
1:35:45
Speaker 4: mind either.
1:35:45
Speaker 6: Like, what are we talking about?
1:35:46
Speaker 15: Won't he do it?
1:35:47
Speaker 4: So we going to get that on in the mix?
1:35:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, no.
1:35:50
Speaker 15: I'm trying to tell y'all.
1:35:51
Speaker 4: Holy low from now on.
1:35:52
Speaker 2: That's his new name.
1:35:53
Speaker 15: I Am What I Am is a dual-disc album. He
1:35:56
Speaker 15: got some Grammy nominations coming off this project. It is amazing.
1:35:59
Speaker 15: Y'all haven't even heard. That is great. But wait till
1:36:03
Speaker 15: y'all hear the project in full, like the sequences and stuff.
1:36:05
Speaker 15: It's an amazing project.
1:36:06
Speaker 9: All right.
1:36:07
Speaker 6: I love me some Kirk Franklin.
1:36:09
Speaker 2: I think God would want us to play the record.
1:36:11
Speaker 9: Yep.
1:36:12
Speaker 2: I think so.
1:36:14
Speaker 15: Well, let's get to it. That was Top Dog Law.
1:36:17
Speaker 15: That was sponsored by Top Dog.
1:36:18
Speaker 7: Let's see.
1:36:18
Speaker 15: I can't even do it right because I don't know
1:36:19
Speaker 15: what God is feeling like right now. That was sponsored
1:36:21
Speaker 15: by Top Dog Law. Top Dog Law is built for
1:36:23
Speaker 15: tough cases. Go see how much your case may be worth.
1:36:26
Speaker 15: It's TopDogLaw.com. Envy.
1:36:28
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
1:36:30
Speaker 5: Let's do it.
1:36:31
Speaker 1: I mean, he gave y'all the record to do it.
1:36:33
Speaker 1: You played a snippet just now, so why wouldn't you
1:36:34
Speaker 1: play it over?
1:36:34
Speaker 6: Oh, it's all right. Just drop it, yo.
1:36:36
Speaker 9: All right.
1:36:36
Speaker 2: Say no more. He didn't actually give us the record,
1:36:38
Speaker 2: but yes, let's do it.
1:36:40
Speaker 6: God gave us the record.
1:36:41
Speaker 2: Y'all envy. You know how people say that God put
1:36:44
Speaker 2: it in my email?
1:36:44
Speaker 5: Stop blaming this on God.
1:36:45
Speaker 2: Well, it wound up in the email. Let's get it on.
1:36:48
Speaker 2: It comes out this Friday.
1:36:50
Speaker 4: Kirk Franklin, a.k.a. Holy Low, featuring Hallelujah Woods.
1:36:53
Speaker 15: Yes.
1:36:54
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, good morning.
1:36:55
Speaker 7: Morning, everybody.
1:36:56
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
1:36:59
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Salute to our street dancer, John Books,
1:37:04
Speaker 2: for joining us and a filmmaker. His new film, Remedy
1:37:07
Speaker 2: in the Rhythm. What'd you say?
1:37:08
Speaker 6: I said shout out to him. He actually spent a
1:37:10
Speaker 6: lot of his time in Baltimore, too.
1:37:12
Speaker 2: He's from Baltimore, I said.
1:37:14
Speaker 6: He's not from Baltimore, but he grew up there. He
1:37:17
Speaker 6: spent a lot of his years there. It was kind
1:37:20
Speaker 6: of like seeing one of my cousins or whatever.
1:37:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, John is interesting, man. I've learned a lot from
1:37:24
Speaker 1: John just listening to a lot of his stories. You
1:37:28
Speaker 1: should definitely check out his short film, Remedy in the Rhythm.
1:37:31
Speaker 1: But just hearing his story about being a street dancer and.
1:37:35
Speaker 5: Why a lot of people.
1:37:38
Speaker 1: participate in street dancing like i never thought about it
1:37:40
Speaker 1: like you see these people on the street and they're
1:37:42
Speaker 1: dancing and they got so much talent yeah because they're
1:37:45
Speaker 1: so talented you're not even thinking oh this person's struggling
1:37:48
Speaker 1: you know what i'm saying like yeah i don't know
1:37:49
Speaker 1: why it's duh but yeah these people really be out
1:37:53
Speaker 1: here hustling man trying to make money trying to pay
1:37:54
Speaker 1: their rent you know trying to pay their car notes
1:37:56
Speaker 1: so salute to uh john books Yeah.
1:37:59
Speaker 4: Representing for street dancers all over the world.
1:38:01
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to connect with him. I'm going
1:38:02
Speaker 2: to head out to Vegas. I'm going to try to
1:38:03
Speaker 2: connect with him when I'm out there.
1:38:04
Speaker 5: He's a good dude.
1:38:06
Speaker 2: So salute to him. And yeah, he was part of
1:38:08
Speaker 2: the Michael Jackson Cirque du Soleil show out in Vegas.
1:38:11
Speaker 2: And he was in the Michael movie that came out
1:38:13
Speaker 2: last year. Early this year, I should say.
1:38:15
Speaker 4: I love that.
1:38:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Morgan DeBond. She's the founder of Afrotech,
1:38:20
Speaker 2: CEO of Blivity Incorporated.
1:38:22
Speaker 4: Blavity, boy.
1:38:23
Speaker 5: Blavity.
1:38:23
Speaker 2: I said Blivity.
1:38:24
Speaker 5: Blavity.
1:38:25
Speaker 2: So yeah, she stopped doing it as well.
1:38:27
Speaker 1: So salute to Morgan. You can learn a lot from
1:38:28
Speaker 1: Morgan as well. Morgan has been doing Afrotech for a
1:38:31
Speaker 1: long time. It's one of the biggest tech conferences, period,
1:38:36
Speaker 1: in the country.
1:38:37
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? But definitely the biggest tech
1:38:38
Speaker 4: conference for black folk.
1:38:39
Speaker 5: Yes, right.
1:38:40
Speaker 2: Now, you in Atlantic City this weekend?
1:38:43
Speaker 7: I am, y'all.
1:38:43
Speaker 6: I got three more days to get y'all tickets. No,
1:38:45
Speaker 6: two more days. I'm there this Friday, September 25th. Sorry,
1:38:50
Speaker 6: at Harris Casino. So make sure you get your tickets
1:38:52
Speaker 6: for that. JustelariusOfficial.com, Atlantic City. Calling Philly, calling Newark, calling,
1:38:57
Speaker 6: you know, because it's like, hey, yo, how far is
1:39:00
Speaker 6: Atlantic City from Newark?
1:39:01
Speaker 15: Like two hours.
1:39:02
Speaker 6: It's like two hours.
1:39:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, about two hours.
1:39:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, see, Atlantic City, that's crazy because it's closer to Philly.
1:39:07
Speaker 5: It's right there. No, it's right there. It's right there.
1:39:09
Speaker 7: It ain't far.
1:39:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's right there.
1:39:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, so y'all get y'all tickets, man, hour 40. And
1:39:13
Speaker 6: they are going quick, so y'all got just two more
1:39:16
Speaker 6: days to be in the place to be. And then
1:39:19
Speaker 6: next week, I'm in Tacoma, Washington. I'm coming back to
1:39:22
Speaker 6: the West Coast, so make sure you get your tickets
1:39:24
Speaker 6: for that as well. I'll be at the Super Funny
1:39:26
Speaker 6: Comedy Club with my boy Nate Jackson. Me and Desi
1:39:28
Speaker 6: Alexander will be hitting that stage for the second or
1:39:31
Speaker 6: third time. I haven't been to Tacoma yet. since like 2020,
1:39:34
Speaker 6: like back in the COVID days. So get your tickets
1:39:36
Speaker 6: for that as well. If you have not, I'll be
1:39:38
Speaker 6: doing meet and greet. I will be having my book,
1:39:40
Speaker 6: Till Death Do We Parent, on hand. And I will
1:39:42
Speaker 6: be doing a book signing event as well. Go to
1:39:44
Speaker 6: my website for all that information and more, JessalariusOfficial.com.
1:39:48
Speaker 5: All right.
1:39:49
Speaker 2: Charlotte, you got a positive note?
1:39:50
Speaker 5: I do.
1:39:50
Speaker 1: I just want to remind y'all my sixth annual Mental
1:39:53
Speaker 1: Wealth Expo is on 1010. October 10th, World Mental Health
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1:40:00
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1:40:04
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1:40:04
Speaker 4: It is a completely free event. Now, the positive note
1:40:08
Speaker 4: is this.
1:40:08
Speaker 1: Your entire life will change when you realize energy is
1:40:12
Speaker 1: the most attractive human trait, okay?
1:40:14
Speaker 5: Not looks, wealth, or status.
1:40:17
Speaker 7: Energy.
1:40:17
Speaker 1: Start walking into rooms with genuine enthusiasm, curiosity, and interest,
1:40:22
Speaker 1: and watch what happens. You become a magnet for the
1:40:24
Speaker 1: highest quality people. Energy is contagious. Spread the kind you'd
1:40:28
Speaker 1: want to catch.
1:40:29
Speaker 4: Like herpes. Have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches! You
1:40:33
Speaker 4: all finished or you all done?
1:40:34
Speaker 5: Woke up, woke up, wake you up.
1:40:36
Speaker 2: Wake that ass up.
1:40:37
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