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Interviewing Fesiuk Films creators of Cody's Panthers fan documentary! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're in the midst of a celebrity right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A movie star, even, more than a game, a Panthers fan story, a documentary on Cody, last night, holy cow, we got a wonderful time tonight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna be bringing on the creators, David and Sarah Festuch of Festuch Films and talk about that process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be asking, how much does Kirk Wharton mean to the Carolina Panthers?
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[SPEAKER_03]: and how have Panther fans hijacked the internet to try to make us feel bad, or paint, Teterrow, McMillan, is in a bad light.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a great show, and in fact, I would call it star-studded, Cody Lack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's roll.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell you, darling.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And don't do it, but to do it, brother.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's roll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're Caroline O'Panford's fans Having so schooled here's them O'Panford's movies and opinions Only one podcast More is for the most esteem He'd listen to me when everyone's podcast
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome into another Tuesday night is the C3 Panthers podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The longest run in Panthers podcast where each in every week we chop up the latest Panthers news and opinions from the fan perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My name is Tony Donn and that's my will man Cody like how you doing my friend Tony had come before you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: very humble man we have some incredible guests tonight that uh well i mean this and we're going to have a great show we're going to preview this incredible documentary more than a game a Panthers fan story that was done by my really good friends David and Sarah who you're getting ready to meet in just a minute and of course there's no where i'd rather be
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[SPEAKER_04]: then sitting here with my boys talking panther football with the best damn panther fans and all of youtube telling you to know him and love him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's Harvey Lundin, loud packs Luke, Michael Weidrick was up boy, the real AP.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are the hope dealer John B Jenkins and Tony Dunn, you know, it's Tuesday night and not too about to do our brother, Les Roe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98 will take your calls later in the show talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, if you guys have already had a chance to see more than a game, a Panthers fan story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the link highlighted in the chat if you haven't checked it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to cut some onions and get those water works to go in, you can just click that link and it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's so personal, it's so wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know someone who appreciated it just from the even just the production side, let alone that it is our best bud, Cody Lack, CK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you were, I can imagine you were very impressed by this work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a big fan of quality production and the first thing I told Cody when he came on today was it's got it needs way more views than it has like it's just a very well put together story and the production values insane, you know, great job doing what they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in painting the Cody and the Light that he did, but also being able to pull together a story that wasn't just
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[SPEAKER_02]: been around the Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really about the story of Cody lack and so many people like Cody lack and they allowed it to be inspirational while at the same time just a real conversation, just an incredible production.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I watched it, I didn't put it down for the, I didn't even pause it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it all the way through one time just because it was that good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Super stoked to be here with you fellas the talk about it to talk with them You know kind of pick their brain about you know what what what led to this and that's gonna be a good night, man
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watched it twice right in a row back to back watch the two times right in a row.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get those eyeballs on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm working on getting those beautiful eyeballs that can't Newton on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want to get first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure that we've got some friends around in the involved adjacent to the Panthers that can get this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: get Cody even I guess I don't know man just to celebrate you some more we love you Cody it was wonderful you deserved every bit of it let's go ahead I'm a letty lead yeah so listen around this time last year I went to fan fast with C.K.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and some of the other boys from the Friday for you for all pickle Jake and I was fortunate enough to be interviewed by our guests tonight
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[SPEAKER_04]: uh, listen, I apologize.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to butcher this name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I will get it correct before the end of the night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I promise, but I want to, and this is my pleasure to introduce David and Sarah of fight suit films.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are documentary film makers and they're incredible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: David, Sarah, welcome to the Friday free fall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Very happy to have you all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: good good listen I I told this to you before the show but thank you again for profiling me and doing this this is an incredible honor the video that you put out it moved my mom the tears all my family and friends have been messaging me and calling me
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[SPEAKER_04]: and just tell me how awesome this video was and um this is an incredible honor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to start out the show by just get into know the two review a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell us a little bit about yourselves and how do you guide into making documentary films?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wasn't really fan of my last name in the logo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very confusing, it's hard to pronounce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to suit, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: People call it Fissuit, Fisi-A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fissuit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't me that difficult.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know, but it was like trying to find a name for a company.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was like the first thing that came to my mind.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But it actually turned out, wow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm like the logo.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's where we started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We started doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: filming weddings for a while for now, over 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In that process, we started going into film and documentaries work, did some deep work for other projects, that's the can work for them, and then we produce our own documentaries now.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, everyone first one, I think Cody watched it,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen origins and told, I've seen the dark history of Santa Claus, which is a favorite of mine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the one that I loved was your most recent one on Hurricane Helene and some of the stories that you guys profile.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was such an incredible video.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even you see the stories of the people that were affected.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It really drives home just how devastating this is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this horrible event was for the Carolinas and much of the Appalachians just in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was, it affected us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We live in Asheville, so it was really hard for us to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had a, us specifically, we're okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like people around as we knew some guy, a friend of ours, he works for the rescue search rescue team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, top in and he was so taken back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: bad the herping was so crying I never seen him cry before oh yeah and it was like so we I don't know coly it I don't know if you got hit real hard for your ad or anything but we lost um internet electricity water everything we couldn't reach anyone for our cell phones we were on SOS for a little over three days
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[SPEAKER_05]: Our family members, including my own dad, when I remember getting voicemails from him, where I was like, the first one was like, okay, I saw the flood came in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let me know that you're okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In the next day, he sounds even a little bit more devastated, but he wasn't crying yet in the next day when he called.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They still had hurt for me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He thought I had actually perished.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was I mean we were safe where we were but the area around is almost like our little knob was protected and then it got hit all around us.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the guy that he was talking about like he did the rescue missions just within the first few days he was already rescued body after body.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He said I think he told him 50 within the first few days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a he
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[SPEAKER_01]: CIA stuff, I don't like rescue because the rock climber special is cut, so he's like he's seen and did a lot and it was, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not your mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's definitely a time we never once happened again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then the long-term economic effects and how long it takes for just a region to come back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to ask you, like, I mean, obviously there was personal connection in that story since you live in that region.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did you come about deciding to do the project on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it goes back to me, so I'm a big fan of Ian and I started looking for content to watch on YouTube and years ago there was nothing much there and I stumbled on you guys and I stumbled on PNP It was only today I stumbled on but this was like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 2020 is of the same year as I go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or so.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't just follow you guys for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember David, as we were at this point, we were starting to pivot our business even more.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We just finished versions untold and we really wanted to dive into films and documentary films.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we're like, well, who can we talk about?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, a lot of a lot of it on the news.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, I really like this guy Cody right here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, is it this one guy's voice that I hear all the time in the background?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll be cooking and he's playing you guys in the background.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he showed me, and then I heard him talking, and we, I just, Cody first of all, I just want to say you were one of the, you all are very friendly voices, but Cody, you were one of the friendly voices, and I had ever heard on the internet, and that is what drew me in before I even knew who you were, and David just fell in love with all of you guys.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You just hand picking.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, so that's kind of how like I'm started.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you, at least we have one fan, C.K.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good, good, two fans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we don't have a bunch of questions for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But for those who may have not, may not have seen it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to play the trailer for everyone watching here on YouTube and on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So everybody can kind of understand the level of production that we're talking about here that you guys did when you profiled me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And let me take this down real quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Put this live broadcast on channel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to put the trailer on this board.
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[SPEAKER_11]: with spinal muscular atrophy type two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the doctors originally told my mom that I wouldn't live this in an injured two years old and I'm 35 years old.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's your girl to show you can't tell me nothing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I truly feel the turn of my super power.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, life is so easy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to find ways to accommodate things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now it's my cross to bear, and I understand that every tiny life is through our music, and I'm going to continue to present the best version of myself in each and every way so that hopefully I can inspire someone else to continue to do the same with him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not your mother going through.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a weird day, too, because when we went and met, we went to Romero Beardon Park, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time that we did the interview, but then literally as soon as we were done, the sky just fell out, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the entire time, and the weather was beautiful for the
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started raining so hard so it's like I kind of felt like there was some divine intervention making it perfect weather for us to be able to do this interview.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was just really, really, really awesome to be a part of.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it was here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know you're up next.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You want to jump in here and get a couple of questions in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I can ask at least one, um, in the experience of telling Cody's story, um, I think everybody knows Cody online.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you,
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[SPEAKER_02]: got an opportunity to know him and a more intimate setting, asking questions about his journey, his faith, his drive inspiration, things along those lines, what has surprised you most about what Cody is and how he's taken on this journey that he's been on for his entire life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Many people, you know, had to said was going to be short lived and has been longer than anybody could have anticipated and hopefully much, much longer, but what's been the most shocking or most surprising thing you've learned in this process about our boy Cody here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You want me to go get it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so there's a quote.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will not fully quote it correctly, but it's towards the end, and it's where Cody talks about how he can't change who he is or his situation, but I want to make sure he quote it right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my goodness, he can't change who he is or his situation, but
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh, you know what I'm talking about?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to quote it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's quite a few nice quotes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what is he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, you know, he, Demons, it continues to demonstrate compassion for others.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he, like, he, he, the, Okay, we'll miss COVID 100%.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But the point I'm trying to dry that is, is you were talking about how other people,
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[SPEAKER_05]: are going through things that you may not see, and although you may see that I'm going through something, you know, like you just you represent yourself as to even stable minded despite it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you have so much like you were saying, so much compassion towards other people because you know that even though they may not physically look like they're going through something, you know that they are.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that, for me, that was like one of my favorite lines of the whole day and even though I'm
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[SPEAKER_01]: very strong mental fortitude, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But besides that, you're a lot, you're even cooler in person than you are, and I'm alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're cool, I know, you're totally cool, I.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, one thing I love about the person, like for me personally, I never actually gone to a football stadium, but I really enjoyed my timing and I would you guys at the fan fest.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I haven't been to a real football game yet.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I pretty much should do that too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I had so much fun with you guys that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, she felt kind of sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we're all in those bleeds section, all with a top, she's like, I don't know if I could be the singer to log.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the things that I love about Cody, and I think it happens when you have been dealing with what he's dealt with his entire life, is he's not afraid to shoot his shot at everything that he wants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he doesn't, he looks at life and Cody correct me if I'm wrong on this,
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[SPEAKER_02]: what is there to lose right I'm going to say what I want to say I'm going to say what's on my mind there's no sense in beating around the bush I'm going to pursue the things that I want to pursue because you know there's only so much time that we have on earth regardless and I'm just not going to waste that time and that's something that I think a lot of people when I look at when I watch documentary like this when I when you know you hear Cody speak about his circumstances and how masterfully you put together and in a very short amount of time I mean I
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[SPEAKER_02]: The ability to put together what you did in 19 minutes to encompass what Cody is is masterful and I don't think it's very easy to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's it's that you probably could have turned if you wanted to you probably could have turned this into a three hour documentary or a docu series on Netflix whatever it may be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you did a great job fitting this into a window that that is is 19 minutes in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, encompasses a lot of what he is as a, as a, as a person, as a, as a, as a content creator, but, you know, as a friend more than anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, for that, I think you guys, because it was incredibly awesome to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the greatest where we can take advantage or we can take for granted all we can do and we upset all these little things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, but there's a lot of code talks about in the documentary about how there's a lot of tragedy in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people are dying, people don't have things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we should grateful in our certain sets we have right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, that's very compelling thing to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I wanted to jump in real quick and say, this entire episode is going to be the art of trying to make me blush, so that thanks everybody for that, but you know, and just being very candid here, my time on this podcast has been exercise in my own self acceptance, you know, before I started going live on the internet,
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I do, I think Tony, you know, I'm so grateful to Tony for giving me this platform.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't use to ever want to put myself out there and talk about my disability.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, I was sort of in a certain sense kind of,
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[SPEAKER_04]: a shame because I've never viewed myself as a disabled man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've just viewed myself like a normal dude like you know I like to watch sports and drink beer and tell dirty jokes you know like I don't view myself as some sort of special little person or anything but
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[SPEAKER_04]: As I got older, you know, and as I've realized that I can put myself out there, and if somebody who also has, you know, whether it be a disability or, you know, they've been through a tragedy in their life or whatever it is,
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[SPEAKER_04]: That you know, it's best to put yourself out there and just say this is who I am.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not trying to be some of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not trying to present a false image of who I am and in doing that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it allows for a much more accepting atmosphere where people don't get judged.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wanting to actually get to know a person for who they are and I feel like when you are disabled and I know this from knowing many other disabled people That when you are disabled, you do it to be judged a lot of times by things that you have no way of controlling So me putting myself out there through the podcast and this is documentary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I realize that like
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I can be a part of helping someone else to accept their own condition or whatever they're going through, then it's worth it for me to sort of overcome some of my own hang-ups in the process to sort of
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[SPEAKER_04]: help some other people in that light.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you guys for helping me to grow as a person, but also putting this out there for other people to see and potentially feeling a little bit better about themselves and what might be possible for them in the future.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Before my internet crashed, I hope I can be heard now at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, long ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: CK said asked about what impressed the Festooks about you after meeting you and getting to know you beyond just through YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you code is this as you you've never failed to impress me since we've met right from the very beginning press and I can't tell you like how I just thought you were remarkably eloquent throughout this documentary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: handle things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, it's just you being you, but I couldn't have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I could have scripted better responses if I was writing them out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you did great and they did a great job capture in that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did want to tell you guys the first time I cried.
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[SPEAKER_03]: was watching the Cam Newton highlights that was the first time i cry i shed a tear there were more to come boy i missed that guy um you wait you guys you take it you keep going Cody and i'm just following your lead
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one of the, one of the parts that that I really loved that you guys included, and to me, like, this is like C3 Panthers lore, so you literally found clips of me calling into the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: because a lot of people, you know, depending on when you came to the C3 Panthers podcast, I wasn't always on the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This show started as Tony Dunn and Joe Rielano, that freaking Puerto Rican God rest his soul.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He passed away a few years ago, but when it was Tony, Joey, and Mel Mayak shout out to Mel,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I used to call in to the cat calls line and I used to call myself the due to champion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was so cramed to do, but I used to call in and talk about different panthers, draft picks, and then eventually we did a draft show when DJ Moore was drafted, and that was my first time
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[SPEAKER_04]: on the CQ Panthers podcast and I've been on every episode since.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Could you guys maybe describe some of the research that you did and just what all went into building the story of this documentary from start to finish?
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just looking through the archive of all of videos, there's so many, you know, so many of your charities run up, what are you, it was easier to kind of see it whenever you can see the thumbnail, you know, who was on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went all the way back to where Cody was not on there and kind of like sit through there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of how I would either to find you and some little things.
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, whenever there's that one time-lapse thing was like different years, I kind of was scrolled around to different setups even had with the streaming style, whatever, and I just kind of grab ran cliffs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Our cool hangouts that we just did this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you this one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look like a baby and one of some of them in the cases and then you're right is watching the I was kind of just neat for me to see the evolution of streaming like now we don't have you know hard it was to stream in 2014 to the like broadcast live and like how janky it was and still we're still.
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[SPEAKER_03]: crap and get them locked up and internet, but it's a lot easier these days.
25:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Cody, any, I'm, I'm good right here so you guys ask what you got to go and then we'll let the Festooks be on their way.
25:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I know they have given us a lot of time tonight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for being so generous with your time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, don't forget you can find this film on YouTube.
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25:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you know, again, thank you guys so much, and I guess my question to finish off the night is, what's your goal for the future, you know, you've made these incredible, you know, YouTube videos, just the level of care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that you can tell goes into these things is just incredible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, as, you know, documentarians, what, what's your vision for the future?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are your goals and what are some things that you would like to maybe see yourselves doing in the near future with your, with your content?
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you kind of asked the question of how we curated this documentary particular.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So with documentaries, a lot of times, especially these kind is you take the asked question and all that kind of stuff, and then in the editing room is where the story comes out.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, and one of our biggest things is when we make a project, anything, even if it's just a film, we want to inspire people to be better than themselves, put good in the world kind of thing.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And our previous film, or, or origin, you can find out YouTube, it's also on to be in stuff and Amazon, but we're working on the sequel to that and it's about Native American people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: to see.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then just to add to that our goal and I don't know if you guys may just remember Christian people so we also have faith in God is to actually start having theatrical releases.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that is the end goal.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like yes YouTube, yes to the yes Netflix, all those places and then yes one day Cody's face will be at the end of the episode.
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I've got a new feature of this for you.
27:49
[SPEAKER_05]: It's fire people.
27:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Every film we do, we want it to be some kind of motivational film that is going to inspire someone to just take that next step forward to be better than themselves like what you say, how that's done.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is kind of a model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just feel like sometimes, you know, you can make a project and just have no meaning behind it like it's just empty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's nice thing to whatever you change some is life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so gratifying.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I can't, this has been incredible.
28:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, all of my family and friends have reached out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This has been something that, you know, like I said, you may have to, this will outlive me.
28:30
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this would be on the internet forever.
28:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a perfect little time capsule of, you know, by a time with this podcast, but, you know, me when I was 35 years old, you know, it was really cool.
28:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I definitely hope to maybe work with you guys in the future and any capacity that you would like, that would be really, really fun.
28:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe maybe a whole C3 documentary one day once we, once we go bigger and borrow some sports buys us out or something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have a journey of C3, but I'm going to give you guys just the final platform just to shout out your content, tell people where they can find you and just
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are for suit films, I find us on YouTube, for suit films, look it up, and then yeah, we are, that's what we do we do films, if you like documentaries, unique, specifically Christian, meaning documentaries that kind of challenge your beliefs.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's certain things, then we might have some video that you might have liked.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not all Christian, we do, but we make sure the films are clean as I guess I would say, because there's a pilot episode kind of out there.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's now Mexican history anyways, yes, but we do all sorts of films.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that's fantastic stuff.
30:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you David Sarah for joining us and we look forward to watching your company grow and the films and you got in store for us.
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30:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you guys for having us.
30:19
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[SPEAKER_03]: More than a game a Panthers fan story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was really really well done overall, I mean, clearly, but I talked about trying to capture or go CK mentioned it is capturing the story of Cody like
30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it really, I mean, like you said, 18 minutes, 17 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's, that's not easy to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was to to bring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, we can't even get through.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tark Wharton in 18 minutes, let alone doing something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it moved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, it was moving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was inspirational and, you know, I can't think of a better guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to do it for our own very own codey lack and I do I like this is that Or I think it's important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like you said you don't you don't use your disability as Something that's holding you back or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like you sit there and advertise it by any means, but I do think is that like
31:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like, you know, we've run into so many things with the way the internet is and the way the people interact on the internet.
31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just so distant.
31:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad that more people, not only listeners of ours, but more people in Panther nation, get to know more about you.
31:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it will give them a lot more context to the person Cody Lack is
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, hey, if the shoe fence.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't hate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, this is like I said, this is this whole thing has been incredible.
32:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, again, I wouldn't be able to do any of this if it wasn't for you letting me be on this pod.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you brothers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're my man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are my family at this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, I want to continue to provide a platform by Panther fans of all sorts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: can feel heard and they can talk about panther football, they can listen to some real expert fans talk about football from the fan perspective.
32:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me, what did you say we do that?
32:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to talk some panther football I believe that's what this show is about and not just
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[SPEAKER_04]: glasin' me, cause a crispy creed on that.
32:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, all right, so let's actually talk some panther football again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you to Sarah and David.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But how about this, you know, we've been talking about what are the strengths of the panther's roster?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are some positions that were weak at?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Where do we, where is our strengths?
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[SPEAKER_04]: that are tied in room, kind of leaves a lot to be wanting and Anthony Resoudi has put out an article and there was already a lot of rumors about this, but they're saying that because of a recent connection that Duke Canalis has had, that the Panthers could implore trading,
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[SPEAKER_04]: for Titan, Colby Parkinson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is from Anthony Resurity of Panthers Wire.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Says, Moe Moton of Bleach Report has come up with one trade for each NFL team for the Ring England FC South Champions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He highlights Los Angeles ramps Titan, Colby Parkinson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He writes, the Panthers don't have a Titan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: right high-end playmaker at Titan, Jutavia and Sanders and Tommy Trimble are both a mediocre at best in the passing game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In order to eat quarterback Bryce Young's development, Caroline can target a pass catch and Titan on the trade market.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Rams have a crowded Titan room,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Parkinson, Tyler Higby, Terrence Ferguson, and David Salon have played at this 31% of the snap-set deposition last season, Los Angeles added a rookie second-rounder Max Clare to the group.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, there was even rumors that we might have drafted Ken Jones to do account of Oregon in this year's draft if we were going to go with an offensive player, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: Boys, what do you make of the potential of upgrading the Titan room via a trade with Colby Parkinson's?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this the jerk that caught that pass that touchdown pass against this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He rode then the game winning touchdown and the Rams wild card win over the Panthers in January.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm good with this dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, obviously can put make some big plays.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was an incredible catch and incredible throw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't, you know what, I just don't foresee the Panthers doing anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was watching the, I watched the,
35:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, more Jackson and a fell top 100.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, a number of six and nine.
35:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and as somebody said, he loves his tight ends.
35:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I don't know what that feels like here.
35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, nobody loves tight ends and Carolinas since Greg Olsen left it feels like I don't foresee the Panthers working out a deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what would it take?
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[SPEAKER_03]: does to get a player like this, like what would, and you know who likes to trade, well usually the Rams are trying to trade four players, not trade them away necessarily, but what would it take to get a player like this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you have to trade?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I'm not entirely sure what, uh, Blinch report put in that trade.
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, shout out to Matt Diary for the $5 of the bomb says Cody is the fucking man.
36:23
[SPEAKER_04]: My god, I love your bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out, Greg, we love you, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I'm telling you, if you want to look that up, I mean, I'm not sure what.
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[SPEAKER_04]: what they put, but one of the main reasons why people are floating in this name at all is because three of the five years where he spent in Seattle alongside Head Coach Dave Canales who served as the Sea Honk's passing game coordinator when Parkinson entered the league in 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they're basically saying that because they have history together that this is
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[SPEAKER_04]: something that they might consider doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, telling you, I would just be real.
37:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know how much it would cost, but I think the Tavion Sanders has left a lot wanting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know there's a bunch of fans in the fanbase that don't necessarily believe in him long term.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that jadevian Sanders can still turn it on down the road.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd like Mitchell Evans, I think Mitchell Evans really showed his utility to the team last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if this were to happen, I wouldn't hate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that he is a high-end pass catching Titan who would add another really big weapon to this offense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know how much it would cost.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If it's reasonable, I wouldn't be too upset.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about U.C.K., but I think this would
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[SPEAKER_04]: be a good thing for the offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the problem is I don't know that I'm putting Cody Parkinson in a in a top tier of tight tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I mean is he's probably in the better half of the tight ends, but I worry that we would just be getting another E in Thomas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so if we're not going to use them the right way, it doesn't really matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really the bottom line is that if we can't figure out how to utilize a tight end none of this is it's all a move point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to think of what he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We brought in a couple of tight-ends back one from Arizona at one point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We thought was going to be a fast catcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe a guy from Jacksonville at one point that we thought was going to do something in other ways ever.
38:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know what, to be honest, I didn't, maybe I just not paying attention to this tight-it, but he's been around and I just haven't known of him necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: look, he made an incredible catch against us in that game and that's what what defeat you know was the what put us down.
38:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean like obviously he's got so he can ball that connection to Dave can Alice again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well that's those connections do matter in this league like like those relationships and knowing people is like when we investigate like when we see trades or moves and all of this there's always some sort of or there's a lot of
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[SPEAKER_03]: of connection there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can see that I just don't know if the Panthers have prioritized making it and I think look it's a jatavian Sanders what two years in the league.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he played two seasons.
39:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this would be a start season.
39:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Same here as a, as a, uh, jiles and books.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, the Mitchell Evans kid, you know, I mean, year two, I thought he shared a lot of probably.
39:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like he was more productive than when I looked back at his numbers.
39:48
[SPEAKER_03]: He only had like 180 receiving yards.
39:52
[SPEAKER_03]: But I guess he just, you know, he caught a couple of touchdowns when we were just in the pits early in the season and it felt like he was more exciting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect the Panthers to pursue anything that's going to cost them a lot right now.
40:05
[SPEAKER_03]: They haven't prioritized this position group and, you know, all that much, so we'll see.
40:11
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, what have we got next?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so one of the biggest surprise surprises of
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[SPEAKER_04]: last season was the emergence of Mike Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, he was lights out and him and Jason Horn formed one of the better corner tandem is in the NFL last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is from Jared Feinberg on cat grave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Says Panther stand out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is unforgiving contract test after career year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Last season, Jackson led the league in patch breaks up, break ups, and challenge four interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: His performance against San Francisco 49ers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Los Angeles Rams, were key moments in his breakout season in Carolina, forming an exceptional duo with probable corner JC Horne, acquiring Jackson two years ago, but as one of Morgan's best moves
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[SPEAKER_04]: Collision could be looming entering the final deer over two year due to signed last all season Jackson's base salary is only four point two five million
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[SPEAKER_04]: and is only guaranteed to million for someone who performed at a high level last season, this is a significant underpay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So basically, Tony, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're asking how important is my Jackson to what we do in our defensive backfield and do we like him enough to want to make him a staple of what we do in the future and break him off a little
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 20 years ago, these 26 years old, he's done nothing but play well for this team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Over-performed at every, every chance he's had, we were excited when he was signed to that two-year contract after the first year, he owned his final year of his rookie year, his rookie
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think really a good character guy for the team, right, is like this, and some ways I guess you could say he's a little reserved, I guess, I think it's just as delivery is a little reserved when he's talking, but there's been moments that have stood out to me, right, of what the type of player you want on your team one is he plays with chip
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, he's referenced like said the trade thing and like how that's motivated him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's at every turn supported the team and been like, um, kind of a team guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, should I say he has, um, all the other is he constantly hear about him not being satisfied with what he's done, but want to be better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then there was the moment that, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you, do you remember when J.C. Horton asked to cover somebody?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Was it, was it in my heavens?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't.
43:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it might have been Mike Evans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It might have, whoever in it like, and it proved it was in the last quarter or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He went to the coaches.
43:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that Mike Jackson handled that because that could have been like what he said is like JC horn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you don't think he was throwing shade, but it could have inadvertently been seen as.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is my, you know, I'm the guy that can do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that Mike Jackson handled that with grace and confidence too didn't like it to feed it even though he had got beat on some plays and some things like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't even know if you know who knows is I just thought, look, he's a 26 years old he's played great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got all the characteristics he want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see why the pathers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: wouldn't want to do something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The question is, is how much does he see this as an opportunity?
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You go out.
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: If he goes out there and falls again this year, like he said, he, I mean, his goals are probal, his goals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got like six picks to fumble record.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this guy wants to have a monster season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's motivated because it would be great timing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he have another great season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That
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[SPEAKER_03]: So is, you know, can the Panthers keep them or else, or are other teams going to, that with a lot of big salary caps and, and, you know, opportunity there, are they going to be able to approach this guy we don't know.
44:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he'll probably come in to pay days somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that he is, he is a really good corner.
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And then as Jared said in the article, I mean, can we agree that this was one of the best moves that Dan Morgan made as a GM to just so swiftly move off of a late round pick linebacker?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To get a guy who has been literally a part of a one-two punch duo at corner,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like yeah, we've asked that question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I asked that question directly on this podcast at one point and that is what was what's your been your favorite move or dead Morgan's best move CK was he said Mike Jackson and that was going to be my answer until CK said it's why I did it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's been just a great asset for us and if we could find some way to retain him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: for a corner of his level is right now.
45:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He wouldn't come in top dollar because that's not what you would be paying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't be paying him juicy home and money.
45:59
[SPEAKER_03]: But I tell you this, though, is the bat daddy, a stat daddy in the chat said Mike Jackson has his many interceptions last year as Josh Norman did in his first three seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The 2015 season Josh Norman exploded as a player right he had two picks sixes at least two pick sixes that thing he made But like he played his best season Josh Norman in in a moment very much like this
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, is like Josh Norman wasn't revered to celebrate.
46:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Josh Norman ended up getting big-time money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got paid by the commanders after we got into the member.
46:39
[SPEAKER_03]: This was the first slip-up of Dave Gettelman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The first real slip-up of Dave Gettelman was when he got bad at Josh Norman trying to strong arm him for money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess the negotiations with within that confinement of the franchise tag is they were trying to explore these options.
47:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Dave Gettlement did not like getting pushed around in this and he rescinded the franchise tag.
47:05
[SPEAKER_03]: We had to draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We drafted three corners in that draft and we went in there with we started the season starting to rookie corners.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and so my Jackson is kind of positioned to replicate what Josh, if he goes out and has like an exceptional season.
47:25
[SPEAKER_03]: The language in the description surrounding him might code he might not be the greatest corner in the league athlete, but like people thought Josh Norman was a top corner.
47:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even though we, you know, there were some limitations, but he actually did play very well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, he earned that money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could see with a great season, Mike Jackson changing the narrative that positions him to that big money.
47:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's that would be problematic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if we do it the same way, as we did in 2015, I'll take it because that means we're going to the supermarket.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you guys think about the three year, $30 million total contract, $10 billion a year?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if he would do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and Paul Man's saying, he says, my jacket, 18 to 20 million a year on the open market with another good year in 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So like this is sort of the dilemma that we're in because if he has another really good year in 2020,
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[SPEAKER_04]: the price is going to go way up and then there's even the chance that he pulls a Josh Norman move and I see that in the chat comparing those two, but Josh Norman said, nah, I'm going to bet on myself in the year before he had that incredible season in 2015.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So even if we offered Mike Jack,
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[SPEAKER_04]: a brand new contract you might decide to say hey I'm I'm actually going to take a bet on myself that I am going to get top dollar in 2020 seven but I don't know I'm all for a reasonable contract I mean even if it's around 10 million a year I'm okay with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh easily and you know we had the discussion a couple of weeks ago about what you want to
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we debated, you know, like, is, you know, do you try to sign them now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you wait until the following season?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what is I would feel more comfortable with Mike Jackson right now, you know, if I don't fair, it would be less of a fine monetary commitment, there would be less risk because we've I mean, you know, we've seen high level play, we said we get up right and also even if it doesn't work out, it doesn't destroy the trajectory of your team as much as.
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[SPEAKER_03]: getting, you know, I'd rather do this save money and get it wrong than to do the other one with Bryce save money and get it wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, you're I hear that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a far less of a gamble from a player of my Jackson's his level, the tier player that he's own.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But again, I think, especially going into this year, you're excited about if this past rush can be a savage past rush, like it has been in
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look at what J.C. Horn and Mike Jack did last year in terms of passes deflected and turning the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If we give them even more time to play the football,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we for real can be talking about one of the better corner tandem in the NFL between those two, between Jason Horne and Mike Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, clearly is Paul Mancini that Eddie says give Jackson the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Paul Mancini says I think if the path is offered two year 35 million, which 25 million and guaranteed it could work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mike Jack and when I averaged 17 and a half million a year, that would be a heck of I would I think we would try to want to get a little less than that I would hope to try to get a three year deal and With it I think that would be cool too But I mean, I don't know if they're extending it if they're adding or they're including the years that are on this contract right now The other thing about paying him a little bit more is that you could feel go to sleep better is that you have underpaid him
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, like, is that signing the additional deal with the Panthers for Trump change?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he really, he's put it all out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I hope he gets his money and I hope he continues to do great.
51:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Cody, are we going to move on with content and you want to go to some cat calls?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is some calls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk to the fans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me get your thoughts on the celebrity status of Cody Lashney.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The tight in room and Mike Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe even more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you thought it's on cat calling?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's pretty f***ing shouldn't do that to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And how did that make you feel?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Very uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
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[SPEAKER_09]: It feels good like... What's up, y'all?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Lucas from Far City.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Lou, when I feel that chill, smell that fresh cut grass, I'm back in my helmet, cleat and shoulder pads, standing in the huddle, listening to the call.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my foot, oh, guys, is it going to do this every time?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't have to be in the froh foot, the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yo, I spent the fans.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We are lucky as hell to have my, my opinion, the greatest linebacker of all time playing Carolina for us watching this highlight has been blowing my mind.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm still my favorite play of all time.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We played the C-hawks and 20s and the 2015 season in that playoff game.
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[SPEAKER_10]: in six and Russell Wilson still gives me chills at this day and every game this this coming season I'm going to be wearing my lube jersey and I want to thank y'all see three y'all been keeping me saying this year this all season up dating me on the team that I love appreciate you he's an I want to thank y'all keep down and go Panthers
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[SPEAKER_03]: in pound and telling us hey we're less than a month away from wild from meaningful panther football discussion yeah it is is I mean this is kind of slow at this point right but you know it it's going to come around quick and there will be so much football so
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[SPEAKER_03]: that the podcast is great but we hope the Panthers do great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks Luke Lucas for city with the little poetry to start.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll poetry poet we got a poet there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See I pulled the app down because I had to it was on if I didn't use my phone for two seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It goes still.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got Michael.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, this is Michael Reeve.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just wanted to call him like you guys know you got all you guys doing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Also job.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just seen Cody's little mini doc you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Meantering and absolutely freaking love it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Cody, your freaking inspiration to all of us doing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We love you, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Love podcast.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Keep freaking pounded guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm your brother, but you appreciate your man.
55:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for the kind of words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we've been falling for you, but you deserve it, Cody, because I tell, I mean, I was just in prayer like, look, I'm not in prayer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, not, I just know you're going to deliver like this, but I mean, boy, just off the top of your head, the way you're describing
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[SPEAKER_03]: When all of these to very big ideas and company, no hesitation, no, you know, bouncing around of ideas, I mean, very clear succinct delivery and they did a great job capturing who you are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to know that this year, fans are going to get to see even more of that as we continue to grow when we got big things ahead for C3 and Cody Lack on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go to the next
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's Tony Dunn, Cody Lack, the season region.
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[SPEAKER_09]: What up everybody?
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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, get a little set up.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And real quick, a first name first man shout out the JC horn number 76 on the top 100.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Let's get it baby, let's get it.
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[SPEAKER_09]: That's what four passes in the top 100.
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[SPEAKER_09]: A is then a while y'all, we back, we back.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But hey, I got a couple, I'm going to probably have two calls man, one for the offense and one for the defense, because I've been thinking a couple things, especially pertainence to the offense.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So hear me out, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I so they bit more.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I read an article recently about the lot received alone at Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And let me just say.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if we are underestimating the chemistry element.
56:53
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me explain.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Y'all, these guys love David Moore.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Like, at first, I thought it was just Dave Canalis that love David Moore.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: These why receivers were to read the Excel, the John Mechee.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if y'all heard what, to the low limit.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Millen had to say about David Moore.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But this guy is like a big brother.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's almost like a wide receiver's coach to these guys.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And the fact that he can play special things and the fact that he still plays at a decent level, honestly, I see why they keep bringing him back.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Jimmy all thoughts on that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, I'm going to call back with a second call regarding the defense.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Jimmy all thoughts on days and more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: CK is as we can as we parse through all the people and players in the football league each and every year and we names and stats on a page or fans or we're not fans and what did they do and how could we be better in this and that is sometimes we lose some of these softer components or actually we don't are not able to see them a lot of times of what is necessary for
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[SPEAKER_03]: of these football teams to really be great and, you know, balance is one of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And balance comes not only on the field with the players that you have, but also like in the meeting rooms and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think you bring us a great point is that obviously David Moore, his value is more than just what we see him as a, as a just a wide receiver only or what he does on the field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously the team and Kenalis has known that to a certain extent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: where the panthers times where the panthers have thrived in younger players have come along and like I think what like Jericho Cotry or peanut tillman meant to this team at times and how they influence the play of others in their ethnic, their demeanor and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, we might not be just blown away by the physical attributes of David Moore at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's some value behind the scenes that maybe we need to consider.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that we've said that for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think when you look at what we have when we have been some of the best versions of ourselves as a Panthers team at when we've had leadership at the wide receiver position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it might not necessarily be star power at the wide receiver position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm talking about the leadership, like in 2015, it was the Ted Ginn, the Jericho countries, the guys who brought a sense of, you know, knowing what they were doing type of thing, right, to the equation, I think that that's incredibly valuable to a young wide receiver core that we have right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're young and I think that they could always use a little bit of what's the right word.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's our ship to the lead ship.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, mentorship is probably the best description, right?
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's allowing them to be able to learn behind somebody who knows how to play the game, but also knows how to be a pro.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now you're seeing this in the league a lot with some of these
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_02]: some of our rivals over in Atlanta to, you know, some people, you know, up in Detroit, having made some pretty bad decisions here as of late.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So having somebody on the team to show them how to be a pro and win to, you know, to allow them to narrow the focus to the things that are really important to them and not these, you know, superficial things that these players tend to get fixated on when they come to a league and get money that they've never experienced before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I do think it would be, you know, having some of, I mean, not just kind of a role player, but having that leadership and experience that is like playing at high levels and contributing could be valuable too.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not just, you know, a David Moore, but having like a Thomas Davis on the team and things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think back to the 2014 season as Panthers started out atrociously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and, you know, fought through adversity in the back end of that season to finish 7-8-1 and make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, for these younger players,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's probably the most impactful in their development when things aren't going well, you know, like is in that is to see like, hey, man, these guys are aren't frustrated or they're getting frustrated different ways or how they deal with adversity injury recovery challenge bad games bad stretches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's where some of those that leadership really kind of brings the young pubs along.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I also say this too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think, you know, when we're talking about David more, I think Dave can now actually really likes David more.
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I had a bad player, man.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not a bad player on the field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He produces and that was my next point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I also think it's not just Dave Canales.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Bryce don't like to David Moore.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, what was the season or two ago?
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_04]: They built up a pretty decent connection.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_04]: So we talked about how deep this wide receiver room with some of the new guys that we have coming in like Jimmy Horn Jr. Now we brought in Chris Brassel.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_04]: in the third round, but did you also bring in John Machie?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, those guys are really there.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to have a bit of an uphill climb to prove to not only the neighborhoods, but to Bryson Young that they are better, more valuable wide receiver options for Bryson this year.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Then David Moore, who has trained with Bryson and the other wide receivers and the offseason before, they have built up that camaraderie in that connection.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_04]: David Moore is no longer a player that you can just dismiss because he isn't as big of a name as you would like him to be.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, yeah, I like it.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he said he had a call about the defense as well.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Go back to the hope dealer.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Hope in the second call real quick.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_09]: So I gave my first call about David Moore and the All Saints.
1:03:27
[SPEAKER_09]: My second call is going to be about the defense.
1:03:30
[SPEAKER_09]: And I got a statement, but I also have a question for y'all.
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm going to try to keep it real with me, hi.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, look, I know Evo is here.
1:03:44
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'll be honest with you all.
1:03:46
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not the biggest Evo thing, I'm not.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I keep here and still people in the building talk about how, you know, we haven't had the players.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_09]: We haven't had the players, right?
1:04:04
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not the scheme, but then I'm be honest with you.
1:04:09
[SPEAKER_09]: I really think about this.
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't like the fact that we are in a defensive scheme where if one player gets injured, they're at Brown.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_09]: our entire season could be on the line.
1:04:25
[SPEAKER_09]: And hear me out, like, I know we got Jaylin Silva.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I know we got Devon Royce.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_09]: I know we got more talent than we used to have.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But y'all, what will happen if Derek Brown got injured again?
1:04:35
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_09]: Jaylin Phillips and Devon Boyd and all this other talent being enough because of Everrow's scheme.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_09]: I just I don't know y'all like I just I'm having a hard time.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe it's PTSD maybe the hope bill is being a negative Nancy today because it was a hard day at work in the Tuesday But I don't know man like give me y'all thoughts on that man like the whole talent versus scheme thing with have a row.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_09]: But anyway, it's the hope bill.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Love y'all keep pounded
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you pound it?
1:05:08
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the year that I'm not going to listen to any of that.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to have any of that.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If Derek Brown gets injured, which having for bed, God forbid, I'm not going to make excuses for.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Everrow.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, is that, I mean, I think at times we've been, you know, trying to be fair, we've been hard, we've been fair, we've been easy on them at times, I feel.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been on this podcast and said, sometimes it's like, the problem I had with Everrow is that at times is that the defense was it better?
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I mean, we had injuries, but that still was, you know, if he's so great, this is, you got to play with the hand you're dealt.
1:05:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then I also understand how much certain pieces mean.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we've added enough talent in particular places through the draft like important places on this on the defense to where if one important player gets hurt, I still think we should that we should be able to overcome and rise to the challenge.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I won't let that excuse fly this year.
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I understand the hope they're going to have in PTSD though, we lose direct round for a season and our defense literally gave up the most points in NFL history.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, that's your most yards and you know what I'm sure when the points to No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_04]: got another year and got an incredible benefit of the doubt because his defense didn't have Derek Brown in it.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how important Derek Brown is to what we do on defense and I then really think that all of the moves that you made on defense this year from Devon Lloyd to Jalen Phillips is because of Derek Brown.
1:07:14
[SPEAKER_04]: that if you're depending on DB, you have double teams in the middle, it means that Phillips gets a one-on-one matchup.
1:07:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It means it's scorching, it's a one-on-one matchup.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it makes everything easier for everyone around them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is the lynch pin of our defensive identity.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I don't know, man, like, I'm not going to go full panic mode,
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_04]: quite literally is the engine.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_04]: If he isn't there, this thing doesn't run though that way.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's an incredible player.
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what we were kind of, you know, that he should have been higher on the top 100 list in our mind because of just how great he is at his position, how important he is to the pathers.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, there's so much
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, as the Panthers are trying to figure out how to generate past rush, they've added some free agents, they've added through the draft, they added a new uh, detackle this year in the draft was, is it always get it wrong, and Lee Hunter, Hunter Lee, Lee Hunter?
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Which would?
1:08:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're on to that.
1:08:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Lee Hunter, right?
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, and then you have the issue that Tersharm Wharton, a big signing a year removed, you know, it comes in, you sign him to a big deal, he played in, you know, faced injuries last season.
1:08:42
[SPEAKER_03]: What it's all really tough to go for Tersharm Wharton.
1:08:44
[SPEAKER_03]: lost his brother to suicide, and then now he's had to have neck surgery.
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So he, you know, they're going to have to figure out how to do it, but I still without him, it looks like, but I, I think that there's enough talent on this team for them to prevail, and I expect that Everrow find a way to get it done.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's my hope.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I've been
1:09:08
[SPEAKER_02]: the probably one of the most unfair critics of a ever of anybody here.
1:09:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not, again, I'm not prepared to provide him with the benefit of the doubt for any further now that, you know, where we're, I think we all can agree a much more improved team than where we were.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that any of your criticism have been unwanted.
1:09:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we have not had a spectacular defense.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_04]: His entire time here, he has been given the benefit of the doubt for damn it.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been here to how many different coaching regimes now, and through Frank Rye, Dave can now us now.
1:09:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, you know, time is running a thing either.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to be the head coach next year.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_04]: or he was going to be looking for another DC job somewhere else.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's go to my bastard son, white chocolate espresso.
1:10:04
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1:10:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But don't care.
1:10:08
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, we call him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yo, Kobe.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I call the doctor.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_08]: He put out everything.
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, I know this in the documentary.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_08]: I know this.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_08]: And I'm in it.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_08]: And I have to be this way, but I contact the lawyer.
1:10:32
[SPEAKER_08]: I guess I'll see you in court, brother.
1:10:34
[SPEAKER_08]: I authorized a fix to be in that documentary.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, I'm just gonna take everything you have.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_08]: Did the band, the chair?
1:10:47
[SPEAKER_08]: But I don't know what I do.
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, what a bastard.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Kirsten, why are that scuffling?
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, once a bastard, always a bastard.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go to John B. Jenkins.
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, guys, Bobby Bickley, I'm just calling him.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just calling him.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just calling him.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
1:11:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Back and say that I saw that little mini documentary that you were in Cody and, and Tony, you were in there too.
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Pickle, you were in there.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, don't let y'all were in there.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but it was, it was just so super cool to see a little spotlight on your Cody, uh, you meet a lot to me.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, again, all of y'all meet a lot to me.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Tony, I've been watching you since he's maybe 20.
1:11:36
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I'm not the first year, but the second year.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, but Joe and and and Mel were were on the show back when I first started tuning in.
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but this show has meant so much to me.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's like a regular part of my Tuesday night.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I get to hang out with you guys.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I come out here to my shed and, you know, I do my little call.
1:11:59
[SPEAKER_06]: And I listen in and I don't know, like I've, I've known I've said it before.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_06]: In a previous call, but it's, it's fellowship, you know, it's just like hanging out with Bud.
1:12:13
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, VR, if you're listening, dude, you, you are always just like, just so positive and like, I mean, I try to be positive too, but man, you're, you're, you're inspiration, man.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I mean, everybody out there, um, I really do love you guys and you really meet a lot to me.
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_06]: And I also learned that I also enjoyed learning a little bit about your life too.
1:12:49
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what the point is called.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_06]: And just let's call it and say hey y'all.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm here.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm listening.
1:12:55
[SPEAKER_06]: And I love you guys.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_06]: And I usually listen in full on Wednesday on the next day.
1:13:00
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I don't know.
1:13:03
[SPEAKER_06]: That's about it.
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I got to get together.
1:13:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll turn it a football call.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, John B.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Have watched some fun games this weekend.
1:13:14
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to tell you about that.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, John B.
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And appreciate you, brother.
1:13:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we got one more here.
1:13:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what's up, Seekary, Anthony from Charlotte?
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_11]: Hope your boys are able to get to them and watching the show live and I just wanted to call them quickly.
1:13:32
[SPEAKER_11]: See, shout out to Cody and the documentary done on them.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously, not obviously, but a couple of the guys were able to kind of know about this from a year ago, and I was a part of it in there, so it was awesome to see man and I'm glad you were able to share a story online, and he's such a great dude, so we appreciate, we appreciate you brother and thank you, sorry man, and on to the Panthers man, didn't really have anything said I wanted to talk about, but just kind of called in.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_11]: Just want to call in right about this part where Tony is talking about everyone's and things.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_11]: I just wanted to ask you guys like we're coming up on training camp in less than 10 days.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_11]: What do you think the story of this team is going to be this year?
1:14:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously coming off a playoff earth last year and ending the drought, bringing in some big time free agents have very sound draft.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_11]: What do you think the story is going to be?
1:14:37
[SPEAKER_11]: I've been thinking about this a lot.
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_11]: I really think the seizing comes down to three factors.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it comes down to Bryce Young.
1:14:45
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it comes down to the offensive play calling.
1:14:47
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it comes down to the 2024 draft class.
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_11]: I think those three factors are going to make a break the ceiling of this team.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, I actually think this team has a decently better floor than in years past just because
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_11]: There's a lot more talent and there's a lot more depth on this team.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_11]: I feel like we'll be able to sustain injuries better because you know, they happen every year.
1:15:11
[SPEAKER_11]: Like even last year, I felt like we did pretty solid with that.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_11]: They were guys stepping in every single week.
1:15:18
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we were getting wings at home versus the rants that guys like J.C. horn and like our whole lineback record and things like that, man.
1:15:25
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's like, what are you guys saying?
1:15:28
[SPEAKER_11]: Those are my three biggest takeaways, honestly.
1:15:34
[SPEAKER_11]: going into the season of what I think are going to be the main factors, and it's a big year for the quarterback band it is, but I also like with Tony said about Everellite.
1:15:44
[SPEAKER_11]: To me, man, like, I said it on the free for all last Friday, I feel like this is, this is year three of the regime.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_11]: I feel like this is a year where we can't sit back and give a pass to Dan Morgan in Dave Canales, because, you know, they took over a tough situation and they had to beat
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_11]: build their own team.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they've had three off seasons out three off seasons.
1:16:05
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, and obviously the roster's not, you know, some suitable caliber roster yet or anything like that.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_11]: And I think this is the year where we should be upset if we don't research and expectations.
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_11]: Give me your thoughts.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_11]: Just wanted to, uh,
1:16:17
[SPEAKER_11]: kind of get that out there, see what you're all thought.
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_11]: Anthony from Charlotte, can you motherfuckin' down?
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, feels like every season, we start off and Cody because there's a private season, it's a private season.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Every season, it feels like he's been saying that.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess every season is a private season.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_03]: This one is to me.
1:16:35
[SPEAKER_03]: If we're not stepping forward, we're stepping back.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to hear anything, I don't want to hear anything.
1:16:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to hear, oh, it was injuries or we don't have talent or the strength of schedule or anything.
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the damn workout.
1:16:53
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the Panthers got to play this.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_03]: We we got to get out.
1:16:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't take it.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't take living in in football hell Last year was like, oh, we might be getting out of hell Yeah, but it was not like that all the time.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care what anybody says is like just because the back end of this like the Even the year before the back end of the season had some optimism there were some moments early and last in the last year where I was like oh crap
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go again.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So what we did, we kind of came out of it.
1:17:29
[SPEAKER_03]: We stepped at, we made some big, we had some big wins.
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You find a way to make the playoffs.
1:17:33
[SPEAKER_03]: You play one of the best teams in the league to the wire in that moment.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But we got a build on that.
1:17:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this can't, I mean, it's got to be, we have to be noticeably better than we were last year.
1:17:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is on in play.
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like, that's our record, that's the scores of the game, like how our offense performs, how our defense performs every group, coachy, everything better take a step forward.
1:17:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause if it's not, I think we'll be in a place where we're wondering, are we moving forward at all?
1:18:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, if we don't take a step forward, so if we're the same record or worse at the end of this year.
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I want a branded defensive scheme, I'm done with the 34 and I want to move on at quarterback.
1:18:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Now again, this is all considering those things that we don't move forward and this team does end up progressing rather than taking the next step.
1:18:32
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I know I've said this before.
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember who made this quote famous, but doing the same thing over and over and expecting
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_04]: And we can only take so much insanity over here, we need some some redesign and some logic injected into this team and I'm done feeling like we're trying to fit a square thing into a round hole.
1:18:56
[SPEAKER_04]: So I know I say it every year, but it is a proven season.
1:19:01
[SPEAKER_04]: In June, we very will have to prove it that this defense running at 34 can be a legitimate scary defense here in Carolina and Bryce Young.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_04]: We've put protection on the offensive line.
1:19:15
[SPEAKER_04]: We've added help at wide receiver.
1:19:18
[SPEAKER_04]: this is his dear to prove really that we're going to invest in him going forward in the future.
1:19:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is the, yeah, or that we're sure.
1:19:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And so to me, I'm going to stay with the same energy telling us okay, it isn't indeed another prove it season.
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think that there's much, I mean, I think Tony had the nail in the head when you said, I mean, yeah, we may every year, we say the same thing, but every year, we've, we've not really lived up to what we were hoping we were going to be able to accomplish, and this might be the first year this past year that we actually outperformed what we
1:20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably believe we were going to be doing at the beginning of the season.
1:20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So right now, I think the expectations are skyrocketed because of that and we have to continue to get better because I'll tell you what.
1:20:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, as evidence by the fact that we are in the, you know, we didn't get past the wild card, right, we had to back into the playoffs.
1:20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't great last year.
1:20:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, we were better, but we need, like, if we want to be able to say where it can tender in this league, we can't just rest on our laurels and say, you know what, well, we, we know what we were capable of because of what we've done last year, that doesn't matter anymore.
1:20:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot live off of last year because it didn't accomplish the end result, which is winning this Super Bowl.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, I agree.
1:20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Next year has to be a not just a.
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_02]: an improvement like it has to be a noticeable improvement for us to feel better about where we're at as a team.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, as, as, as Blime Panther vlog, he says, yeah, remember me, I'll mix.
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for me, I'll mix.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, is, uh, what was the actual punch in me?
1:21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even remember what it was that they, they, they said they, they quit in the middle, like at the very beginning of the season podcasting saying this was too hard, uh, on their families and everything.
1:21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
1:21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was last season.
1:21:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that shows you that the season wasn't all as quickly stuff goes.
1:21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to get better.
1:21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Things can get better, but to their credit, they weren't saying just because the pants are for bad.
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They were making an acknowledgement that they needed to focus on their families and things like that.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll be interested to see what happens next year.
1:21:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think, for me, it's not about what they did.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just more that that's that was part of last year's story, too.
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Not them, but like that fatigue and frustration.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what I feel different about this year is.
1:22:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Going forward is like I wanted the Panthers to improve in past years.
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope they would improve.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I would see things that they did and see how they could improve, but I could understand like that was also I won't say rose colored glasses, but I was this year, I feel like this is like, I've there ain't no more excuse is like it's like what else can you do it would be it's like, you know, it would be like if.
1:22:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You know how many excuses were made for like not having a weapons for Cam.
1:22:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And imagine if you've got to the point where you actually gave them weapons and you still like, like, is we've done it.
1:22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: We've done all the things you've you've drafted your quarterback.
1:22:42
[SPEAKER_03]: You've gotten a coach in there and stayed in there for three years.
1:22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: You've developed a continuity of vision.
1:22:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I mean, what else is there to be to do other than to get better?
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that the Panthers are poised for it now.
1:22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: They just got to do it.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_04]: those are the catcalls right there let's keep going we got a couple more story lies ahead but we out here yes there so do we have to talk about this this is been sort of viral when someone put this out and basically made a town like a T-Mac just completely ditched a bunch of kids from a youth football camp
1:23:29
[SPEAKER_04]: uh uh uh uh the farmworks like we'll headline would be the Panthers Ryder Seaver and 2025 NFL offensive review of the year of Ted Arro and Macmillan was a no show for a youth football camp on Wednesdays July 1th but it seems at this point uh to be not a Macmillan problem but an issue created by FlexWorks Sports Management which handled or more accurately in Miss handle the event
1:23:54
[SPEAKER_04]: via the Asheville, NC citizen times, parents and kids showed up with a camp at Reynolds High School on July 1st.
1:24:01
[SPEAKER_04]: No one else did.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_04]: The time several parents who had paid for the camp said they received emails, transferring their registrations to a camp, featuring Panthers, receiving Xavier Leget and Charlotte on May 17th, the claim, however,
1:24:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Then claimed, however, that some of the emails arrived after May 17th, without corresponding retrofitted delorean capable of doing some serious shit when it hits 80 miles per hour.
1:24:28
[SPEAKER_04]: The other parents told the times they didn't receive any email about the change, the time reports that the FlexWork advertised the camp that was supposed to host it and did not respond
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Multiple requests for comment.
1:24:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this man like viral online, he really bore the brunt of this, and basically people are asking, was this in my millen issue?
1:25:00
[SPEAKER_04]: How much did he know?
1:25:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like now that has been pushed onto his management company, I'm a millen rep told the times that the camp had been canceled in February, and that he had not been a part of the planning of the event.
1:25:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what one is I saw if you if you go through the career here's one comment that from one of the parents on Twitter, it's a Jackson Blankenship, so make sure this guy in Panther fan, so this guy is going to be legit because there's a lot of bad actors in these comments too.
1:25:45
[SPEAKER_03]: You said we signed up and paid for three kids to go February got to email saying the campus canceled and our registrations were moved.
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: No refund, no explanation, but we warm notified of the cancellation.
1:25:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I mean, some of this is, I guess they're going to have to follow up and pursue this through that FlexWorks company.
1:26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's where
1:26:07
[SPEAKER_03]: The real thing, this is why this has become a bigger, why, like you said viral and this has made the round.
1:26:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to share my screen right here.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm going to just say, make sure I got the right window.
1:26:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um, it's stuff like this that made this, that I can flame this situation, which is ultimately bots or I mean, this could be the Iranians for all of you know, right now you're at a war with them right at this moment.
1:26:44
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you look at these tweets right here from these random accounts made about my, they're all the same.
1:26:51
[SPEAKER_03]: my seven year old went to the camp just bubbling with excitement and me is favorite player but I was met with a flood of tears when I told him tip was not coming so we did what any proper family would do.
1:27:01
[SPEAKER_03]: We found him a good player to root for like a young man like Jordan Tyson.
1:27:05
[SPEAKER_03]: My seven year old attended this camp.
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_03]: He was so excited to see his favorite player T-Mac after a series of tears he asked me, Daddy, why does that terracotta man hate me?
1:27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, sorry, when did decide the burn is Jersey, it's a port of real wide receiver at Jordan Tyson.
1:27:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Next wood, I mean, they're all the same one.
1:27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's all troll accounts and bad actors on the internet making things so as soon as I saw that as like man, this is not really even a story.
1:27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think you should just be able to unilaterally decide I think you should give them the option to transfer to the Xavier look at camp.
1:27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you should just be like that here.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: that's just how we handle it, but we're keeping your money.
1:27:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that.
1:28:01
[SPEAKER_03]: That was that.
1:28:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be like, just refund these people.
1:28:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And to be honest, I think that was probably happening is that TMAX agent is going to be working, putting pressure on that company to make this right.
1:28:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if I'd be shocked if they're not already in the middle of this thing being resolved very quickly.
1:28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is, you can, especially as a newer player who just came off of a campaign, where you got offensive player of the year, you cannot let something stupid like this dictate the character that people believe your client has.
1:28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that we can all agree that this seems to be
1:28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: um, genuinely some just really bad business practices and not something that is directly a reflection of uh, uh, Teterola Macmillan.
1:28:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he won't like fucking kids.
1:28:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, the joke wasn't doing that to them kids.
1:29:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do, I think that, you know, two max of young dudes and you know, especially when you're just newly into the NFL, I mean, he was a rookie last year, just hired these agencies to do this for you.
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're coming to him too.
1:29:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying it's like he's getting bombarded with people telling him, well, what we can do, what we can be, what we can do this.
1:29:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's probably trying to figure out a piece of,
1:29:30
[SPEAKER_03]: right like is like he's like all right I'll do it and then you take care of it I'll show up and you do put a lot of faith and responsibility in people and I mean maybe how about this is I don't know if he needs to learn a lesson or whatever because I don't think this is really a story but maybe this would be a soft way of teaching man I need to be really careful who I'm involved with and how they're handle things because that affects my money
1:29:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and tell it, you know, you don't want it to be something where it's like bad businesses or that actually cost you big time money or issues.
1:30:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, nothing, nothing, nothing burger here for me.
1:30:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that people get their money back.
1:30:10
[SPEAKER_03]: They better get their money back.
1:30:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And if not, I'm sure he'll give them their money back.
1:30:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:30:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
1:30:16
[SPEAKER_04]: How about this man?
1:30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: We're getting ever closer to the Luke Keith Lee bust that will be introduced into the Hall of Fame.
1:30:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to see it soon.
1:30:27
[SPEAKER_04]: This from Scott Fowler, Luke Keith Lee says the sculpture created into him for the profile of Hall of Fame, looked like he could beat me up with less than a
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And Shri Man can here's an inside look of how Keith is all a fan bus was created.
1:30:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, we had an NFL career built on movement, and since we're getting ready, hitting and running, but for two days in late May, he tried to develop a different talent, learning to sit still during those two days, Keith repose for a sculptor, Ben Ham, and does one of three sculptors employed regularly by the pro football Hall of Fame.
1:31:05
[SPEAKER_04]: a Hammond had been commissioned to create the kickley bus that would be unveiled at the former Carolina Panthers induction into the hall on August 8th.
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Kickley's face will become the 53rd for Hammond that is sculpted for the Hall of Fame.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, it's phenomenal what Ben could do, saying Kickley, who flew a provo you talk for the sitting last 13 hours overall inside Hammond's studio.
1:31:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Kickley didn't have to be utterly still the whole time.
1:31:34
[SPEAKER_04]: He can walk around his new peaks at the clay version of his face occasionally not too much to talk about, but you can see some glimpses of it here and to me as long as it is better than the famous Christian over and all though bust and as long as it's better than that atrocity than I think we're doing good, but surprise they're not 3D printing them.
1:32:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, probably that's, I mean, I like the idea of artists maintaining influence in society and having visual that are sculptors, but you're making a replica.
1:32:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I would think that this would be a place where you would implement 3D printing of the bus that would then like then they got a dip it in bronze right or whatever.
1:32:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe so or why can't they if his whole head in a siliquid silica and then like yeah Like they do for the movies where they like make a mold of their yeah, make a mission impossible mask I tell you what man.
1:32:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He has the the jawline to be In Shrond and bronze.
1:32:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll tell you that you can cut a boulder this is John.
1:32:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes This is the last slide I have boys just at the Panthers
1:32:55
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... looking at these teams have just an offensive line uh... for two thousand uh... to twenty six of justice means new rookie players uh... is valued at expected performance from drafts law so the panders we're still spending a crazy amount on our offensive line
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_04]: the second highest dollar amount of any team in the NFL.
1:33:20
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think when we talk about expectations for the offense, it starts with the big boys up front.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_04]: All we're going to be able to make those holes for two, but Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks are they're going to be able to give Bryce Jung enough time to accurately put the ball where he needs to down the field across the middle.
1:33:40
[SPEAKER_04]: this team is going to live and die in the trenches this year on defense of lying and offensive one.
1:33:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no problem paying offence of lying as much money as they need, like it's like just play the lines and get good ones and your teams are better for it.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, have we finally built that wall?
1:33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think we, I think we've done a good job.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, is if Robert Hunt comes back in place to the level he was anywhere close to the level he's playing before he got injured.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I think you have right now.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think you may.
1:34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I only expect to get better to be honest going forward is particularly if we can, you know, kind of get that franchise left tackle implemented.
1:34:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you have a decade long, if you have five years with a left tackle.
1:34:30
[SPEAKER_03]: that you don't have to pay in a absorbant amount of money.
1:34:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You get an opportunity to build through the draft and free agencies to when you do have to pay him.
1:34:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got guys in the hole that are cheaper.
1:34:42
[SPEAKER_03]: They're coming up in those other positions.
1:34:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you don't have that left tackle spot it's the most expensive and hardest one to nail.
1:34:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So if we got that done, I only expect the the panthers to be able to build on this and maybe find a way to make a line that's just as good without having to pay the money that we're paying for it right now.
1:35:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
1:35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I have a different opinion on that.
1:35:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think I have much to offer them that.
1:35:16
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Cody, that is the show.
1:35:18
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1:35:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome!
1:35:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's our homage to Steve Smith, where we tell someone to ice up, toughen up to get it together.
1:36:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We can step in or outside the bounds of football.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys got anything for us.
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I have two.
1:36:14
[SPEAKER_04]: None of them are videos or anything.
1:36:16
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just kind of funny.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to you want to bounce back and forth go ahead and start us off and I got one video that I mean everybody's seen it it just is crazy And once I Now my things and work you go for a show.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, all right See if I can add my screen here.
1:36:41
[SPEAKER_03]: We go.
1:36:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you guys see this video.
1:36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, the bison clip
1:36:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, this is crazy.
1:36:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what is wild about this is like, they're such a respectable dude.
1:36:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, I wouldn't think that this is abnormal for people.
1:36:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He looks at that, he gets mad at that truck.
1:36:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he gets it, takes it out on this.
1:37:00
[SPEAKER_03]: But he goes in, hunched this to down.
1:37:02
[SPEAKER_03]: There it does.
1:37:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I would've been climbing when I'm tree, I mean, he's 65 year old, look at this kid's guy is perturbed.
1:37:14
[SPEAKER_03]: But jumping the truck.
1:37:18
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, what a full-circle.
1:37:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm icing up the sheer aggression of wild animals.
1:37:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, that's why they're wild.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me see.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the box head that deleted their tweet.
1:37:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, did they do this?
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
1:37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I only think they should have deleted it.
1:37:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:37:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They're at it.
1:37:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I saw that the guy was, like, in good spirits about it.
1:37:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I was joking around about it.
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he got hurt, but I think he was like... Femur, but good.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Lord, he couldn't have killed.
1:37:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying too.
1:37:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's wild.
1:37:56
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so I set to, I mean, that shows you, man, the wild, the animal kingdom is still wild.
1:38:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care, you know, is that it's unpredictable even when
1:38:08
[SPEAKER_03]: you're in reasonable circumstances.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was actually a son of this.
1:38:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I was reading the article, it's adjacent to that idea.
1:38:17
[SPEAKER_03]: It was read the article about, it was in National Geographic, and they're exploring, they're this water table in the Highlands of, I think it's in Ethiopia, and it's like the highest elevation where they don't have like ice caps and stuff, and there's this weird,
1:38:36
[SPEAKER_03]: or different water system and like how it works and and so they're exploring this in their trip like learning about it.
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: We've a last decade, but they have run into, they had problems with hippos and and they were talking about like their river guides were from a different port of like you know so they were far and so where they were from what they do is they slap the
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: choose to go somewhere else.
1:39:07
[SPEAKER_03]: But in this region, the hippos there get pissed at slap in the paddle and they're on the three hippo attacks in our first two days and they're on the learn not to slap the paddle.
1:39:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I know hippos kill more people every year than lions.
1:39:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, there there there's savages, man.
1:39:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so yeah, I'm going to next I think I don't know what you have up on mine's mind fairly simple.
1:39:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, is there nothing sacred anymore new broadcasting guidelines for women's athletics have been released to crack down on camera angles and slow motion replay.
1:39:43
[SPEAKER_04]: that sexualizes athletes, that guidelines, highlight shots, broadcasters are urged to avoid, so more of them in shock about their victory or less of them bent over pointing their ass up in the short shorts.
1:40:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just less bend over shots in general, and I'm like,
1:40:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Do there's nothing sacred anymore, like can we not, you know, admire the incredible physique of a female athlete, you know what I mean, like, I feel like a come on man, I'm disappointed.
1:40:23
[SPEAKER_02]: go broke you know saying that's that's what they're going to do now no one's going to watch maybe so I mean I think I mean I might have some people that still choose the tune in yeah yeah at this point in time I'm going to ice up you know I think since we last spoke if I'm not mistaken
1:40:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we already knew the USA was out.
1:40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
1:40:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.
1:40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I guess I'm just going to ice up because I, you know, again, I'm going to, uh, you know, I didn't like the way that, uh, the Belgium handled that whole thing.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm icing them up in their loss.
1:41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so, um, I hope they can overturn this.
1:41:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, nice.
1:41:09
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
1:41:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, Cody, you're done.
1:41:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you got one more he said?
1:41:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Um,
1:41:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ice up the Taco Bell outbreak of uh did you see this they're blaming Taco Bell for this outbreak here.
1:41:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just show just that parasitic one.
1:41:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's diarrhea.
1:41:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, here I'll pull it up.
1:41:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So there has been a parasite that has like come out of nowhere and
1:41:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Taco Bell is under investigation, explosive diarrhea parasite outbreak, according to the Washington Post and Investigations on going with leafy lettuce as the losing suspect on what's causing the outbreak.
1:42:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, apparently there's been a whole bunch of.
1:42:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Let us, that is bad.
1:42:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It has this parasite in it that's going around the U.S.
1:42:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It isn't lethal.
1:42:15
[SPEAKER_04]: People aren't dying from it and thankfully it isn't anti-biotic resistance, but
1:42:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I mean, can do even late claim to have lived.
1:42:26
[SPEAKER_04]: If you haven't had Taco Bell that put you on the toilet for a couple hours.
1:42:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's like actually just what happens.
1:42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like a problem.
1:42:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, like every time I eat Taco Bell is stomach ache to a problem at some point it feels like the other I would say is I did.
1:42:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I had checkers about two months ago.
1:42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: for the first time at bazillion years and there was so much salt like I couldn't taste things for two days like it was terrible.
1:42:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So like watch out for these places and I guess it's part of the experience, right?
1:43:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess it'll man.
1:43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm about this is what if it's like this?
1:43:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like anytime there's like a stomach ailment parasitic outbreak.
1:43:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like must be Taco Bell.
1:43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I told my wife it's shade.
1:43:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Taco Bell has just had a lot of fake news around it anyway because there was a bunch of things coming around saying like they were about to release like an unlimited Taco Bell subscription or something like that, you know, like it was given like $65 a month and you just have it.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I talk about whenever you want.
1:43:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like there's just no way.
1:43:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but because Taco Bell is expensive.
1:43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not going to be very cheap, but yeah, but like when you go there, if they had 65 dollars or you could eat taco bell, like that's like, I can't get like feed like four for under 30 bucks.
1:43:50
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.
1:43:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it.
1:43:52
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't even put how about this.
1:43:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm icing up Taco Bell.
1:43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know now on their regular taco, like if you don't get the tacos supreme, they don't put tomatoes on
1:44:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to get a time frame to get tomatoes now.
1:44:08
[SPEAKER_04]: We used to be a country.
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a disappointment, but I still love missing Taco Bell, though.
1:44:15
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
1:44:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't, I don't even try to hide it.
1:44:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the same good by me.
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