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The Wild Journey of Ben Vaughn
: From a One-String Guitar to Hollywood Composer · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

• 0:13
  Welcome
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  to
• 0:13
  Phil
• 0:13
  and
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  Ted's
• 0:14
  Sexy
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  Boomer
• 0:15
  Show.
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  I'm
• 0:15
  Ted
• 0:15
  Bonnitt.
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  And
• 0:16
  I'm
• 0:16
  Phil
• 0:16
  Proctor.
• 0:17
  Or
• 0:17
  what's
• 0:17
  left
• 0:17
  of
• 0:18
  him.
• 0:18
  Hi,
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  Phil.
• 0:19
  How
• 0:19
  are
• 0:19
  ya?
• 0:20
  Some
• 0:20
  of
• 0:20
  me
• 0:20
  is
• 0:21
  good.
• 0:21
  Good.
• 0:21
  So
• 0:22
  you
• 0:22
  know.
• 0:22
  Yeah,
• 0:23
  I
• 0:23
  see
• 0:24
  you're
• 0:24
  just.
• 0:24
  I
• 0:24
  see
• 0:24
  you
• 0:24
  from
• 0:25
  the
• 0:25
  waist
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  up.
• 0:25
  Where's
• 0:25
  the
• 0:25
  rest
• 0:25
  of
• 0:26
  your
• 0:26
  body?
• 0:26
  It's
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  under
• 0:27
  the
• 0:27
  table,
• 0:28
  I
• 0:28
  hope,
• 0:28
  but
• 0:29
  it's
• 0:29
  walked
• 0:29
  all
• 0:29
  the
• 0:29
  way
• 0:29
  to
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  the
• 0:30
  other
• 0:30
  end.
• 0:30
  That's
• 0:31
  the
• 0:31
  magic
• 0:31
  of
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  Radio.
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  Oh,
• 0:33
  man.
• 0:33
  So,
• 0:34
  yeah,
• 0:34
  today's
• 0:35
  gonna
• 0:35
  be
• 0:35
  all
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  about
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  music.
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  And
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  our
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  guest
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  is
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  the
• 0:38
  lovely
• 0:38
  and
• 0:38
  talented
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  Ben
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  Vaughn.
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  Hello.
• 0:41
  Hello.
• 0:41
  Am
• 0:41
  I
• 0:42
  on?
• 0:42
  Yeah,
• 0:42
  you're
• 0:43
  there.
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  How
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  are
• 0:43
  you,
• 0:43
  Ben?
• 0:43
  What
• 0:44
  are
• 0:44
  you
• 0:44
  on,
• 0:44
  Ben?
• 0:45
  What
• 0:45
  am
• 0:45
  I
• 0:45
  on?
• 0:46
  What
• 0:46
  am
• 0:46
  I
• 0:46
  not
• 0:46
  on?
• 0:47
  Can
• 0:47
  they
• 0:48
  pick
• 0:48
  up
• 0:48
  my.
• 0:48
  Can
• 0:48
  that
• 0:49
  recognition
• 0:49
  pick
• 0:50
  up
• 0:50
  a
• 0:50
  Jersey
• 0:50
  accent?
• 0:51
  Because
• 0:51
  I
• 0:51
  get
• 0:52
  ejected
• 0:52
  the
• 0:52
  minute
• 0:52
  people
• 0:53
  find
• 0:53
  out
• 0:53
  that
• 0:53
  I'm.
• 0:54
  Matter
• 0:54
  of
• 0:54
  fact,
• 0:54
  I'm
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  leaving
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  now.
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  Thank
• 0:55
  you.
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  Something
• 0:57
  I
• 0:57
  read.
• 0:57
  Was
• 0:57
  Ben
• 0:58
  Vaughn
• 0:58
  straight
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  out
• 0:58
  of
• 0:58
  Camden.
• 1:00
  Exactly.
• 1:01
  And
• 1:01
  if
• 1:02
  anybody
• 1:02
  knows
• 1:02
  Camden.
• 1:03
  Yeah.
• 1:03
  Far
• 1:04
  more
• 1:04
  exciting
• 1:04
  than
• 1:05
  Compton.
• 1:06
  And
• 1:06
  it's
• 1:06
  also
• 1:06
  a
• 1:07
  good
• 1:07
  place
• 1:07
  to
• 1:07
  be
• 1:07
  out
• 1:07
  of.
• 1:09
  For
• 1:09
  people
• 1:09
  who
• 1:09
  are
• 1:09
  not
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  acquainted.
• 1:10
  You're
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  a
• 1:11
  singer,
• 1:11
  songwriter,
• 1:11
  musician.
• 1:13
  You're
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  a
• 1:13
  record
• 1:13
  producer.
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  You're
• 1:14
  a
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  composer
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  for
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  television
• 1:16
  and
• 1:16
  film.
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  The
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  one
• 1:17
  tune
• 1:18
  that
• 1:18
  everybody
• 1:19
  knows
• 1:19
  you
• 1:20
  from.
• 1:20
  Let's
• 1:20
  just
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  play
• 1:21
  it
• 1:21
  right
• 1:21
  now.
• 1:22
  I
• 1:22
  can't
• 1:22
  wait
• 1:22
  to
• 1:22
  hear
• 1:23
  what
• 1:23
  it
• 1:23
  is.
• 1:23
  Yeah.
• 1:24
  The
• 1:24
  suspense
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  is
• 1:25
  killing
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  me.
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  All
• 1:56
  right.
• 1:56
  Name
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  that
• 1:56
  tune,
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  Phil.
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  Name
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  that
• 1:58
  tune.
• 1:58
  That's
• 1:59
  the
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  turd
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  rock
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  from
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  the
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  Sun.
• 2:02
  That's
• 2:02
  right.
• 2:02
  That's
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  opening
• 2:04
  theme,
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  which
• 2:04
  Ben
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  Vaughn,
• 2:05
  our
• 2:05
  guest,
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  composed.
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  You
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  had
• 2:07
  moved
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  out
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  from
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  New
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  Jersey
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  and
• 2:09
  you
• 2:09
  had
• 2:10
  an
• 2:10
  interview
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  on
• 2:10
  KCRW
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  here
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  in
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  town.
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  Somebody
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  heard
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  you
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  and
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  hired
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  you
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  to
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  do
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  that.
• 2:15
  I
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  was
• 2:16
  on
• 2:16
  the
• 2:16
  air.
• 2:16
  I
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  was
• 2:17
  being
• 2:17
  interviewed
• 2:17
  and
• 2:17
  I
• 2:17
  was.
• 2:18
  I
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  just
• 2:19
  made
• 2:19
  a
• 2:19
  joke.
• 2:19
  If
• 2:19
  anybody
• 2:20
  has
• 2:20
  a
• 2:20
  TV
• 2:20
  show
• 2:21
  or
• 2:21
  a
• 2:21
  film
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  out
• 2:21
  there,
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  call.
• 2:22
  Call
• 2:22
  the
• 2:23
  station.
• 2:23
  I'm
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  available.
• 2:23
  And
• 2:24
  the
• 2:24
  phone
• 2:24
  rang
• 2:25
  and
• 2:25
  it
• 2:25
  was
• 2:25
  the
• 2:25
  president
• 2:26
  of
• 2:26
  Cary
• 2:26
  Warner
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  Productions.
• 2:27
  And
• 2:27
  they
• 2:27
  had
• 2:28
  that
• 2:28
  pilot,
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  wow.
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  For
• 2:29
  Third
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  Rock.
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  And
• 2:30
  they
• 2:30
  were
• 2:30
  looking
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  for
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  a
• 2:31
  composer
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  who
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  was
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  not
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  a
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  Hollywood
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  composer.
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  Somebody
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  from
• 2:35
  the
• 2:35
  outside
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  from
• 2:36
  Camden.
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  Exactly.
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  What
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  a
• 2:39
  Hollywood
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  story
• 2:40
  that
• 2:40
  is,
• 2:40
  man.
• 2:40
  That's
• 2:41
  really
• 2:41
  amazing.
• 2:41
  Yeah,
• 2:42
  it
• 2:42
  was
• 2:42
  cool.
• 2:42
  Are
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  you
• 2:43
  multi
• 2:43
  instrumental?
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  I
• 2:44
  am,
• 2:45
  yes.
• 2:45
  I
• 2:45
  started
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  out
• 2:46
  playing
• 2:46
  drums,
• 2:46
  but
• 2:46
  I
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  play
• 2:47
  guitar,
• 2:47
  bass,
• 2:48
  keyboards,
• 2:49
  harmonica
• 2:50
  when
• 2:50
  I'm
• 2:51
  in
• 2:51
  trouble
• 2:51
  in
• 2:51
  a
• 2:51
  biker
• 2:52
  bar.
• 2:52
  Oh,
• 2:52
  yeah.
• 2:53
  Lose.
• 2:53
  Harmonica
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  will
• 2:54
  save
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  your
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  life.
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  It
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  really
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  will.
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  My
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  first
• 2:57
  business
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  was
• 2:58
  club
• 2:58
  promotions.
• 2:59
  I
• 2:59
  promoted
• 3:00
  music
• 3:00
  clubs.
• 3:01
  New
• 3:01
  Jersey,
• 3:02
  North
• 3:02
  Jersey.
• 3:02
  Oh,
• 3:03
  really?
• 3:03
  And,
• 3:04
  man,
• 3:04
  talk
• 3:04
  about
• 3:05
  cutting
• 3:05
  your
• 3:05
  teeth,
• 3:05
  because
• 3:05
  all
• 3:06
  my
• 3:06
  clients
• 3:06
  were
• 3:06
  mob.
• 3:07
  Oh,
• 3:08
  yeah.
• 3:08
  If
• 3:09
  they're
• 3:09
  not
• 3:09
  happy
• 3:09
  with
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  promotion,
• 3:10
  they
• 3:10
  will
• 3:10
  Say
• 3:11
  to
• 3:11
  you,
• 3:11
  why
• 3:11
  don't
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  just
• 3:11
  break
• 3:12
  your
• 3:12
  legs?
• 3:13
  And
• 3:13
  I
• 3:13
  was
• 3:13
  like,
• 3:13
  well,
• 3:13
  I
• 3:14
  don't.
• 3:14
  I
• 3:15
  think
• 3:15
  it'd
• 3:15
  be
• 3:15
  tough
• 3:15
  for
• 3:15
  me
• 3:15
  to
• 3:15
  do
• 3:16
  the
• 3:16
  promotion
• 3:16
  for
• 3:16
  next
• 3:16
  week,
• 3:17
  sit
• 3:18
  in
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  office
• 3:18
  all
• 3:19
  day
• 3:19
  and
• 3:19
  promote.
• 3:20
  They
• 3:20
  would
• 3:21
  yell
• 3:21
  at
• 3:21
  me,
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  I'd
• 3:21
  say,
• 3:22
  stop
• 3:22
  yelling
• 3:22
  at
• 3:22
  me.
• 3:23
  I'll
• 3:23
  explain
• 3:23
  it.
• 3:23
  And
• 3:24
  then
• 3:24
  if
• 3:24
  you
• 3:24
  stand
• 3:24
  up
• 3:24
  to
• 3:25
  them
• 3:25
  when
• 3:25
  they're
• 3:25
  pushing
• 3:25
  you,
• 3:26
  then
• 3:26
  you
• 3:27
  realize
• 3:27
  that's
• 3:27
  how
• 3:27
  you
• 3:28
  gain
• 3:28
  their
• 3:28
  respect.
• 3:29
  So
• 3:29
  suddenly,
• 3:29
  I
• 3:29
  became
• 3:30
  Teddy.
• 3:30
  Hey,
• 3:31
  Teddy.
• 3:31
  Yo,
• 3:32
  Teddy.
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  got
• 3:32
  this
• 3:32
  act
• 3:33
  that's
• 3:33
  gonna
• 3:33
  kill
• 3:34
  you.
• 3:34
  You
• 3:34
  got
• 3:34
  a
• 3:34
  Tuesday
• 3:34
  night.
• 3:35
  Cause
• 3:35
  we
• 3:35
  got
• 3:35
  this
• 3:35
  band
• 3:36
  coming
• 3:36
  through.
• 3:36
  They're
• 3:37
  gonna
• 3:37
  kill.
• 3:37
  And
• 3:38
  you're
• 3:38
  the
• 3:38
  guy.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  told
• 3:39
  him
• 3:39
  you're
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  guy,
• 3:40
  so
• 3:40
  you
• 3:41
  gotta
• 3:41
  be
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  guy.
• 3:42
  That's
• 3:43
  truer
• 3:43
  than
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  know.
• 3:44
  Because
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  walked
• 3:45
  into
• 3:45
  this
• 3:45
  place
• 3:46
  called
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  Cuckoo's
• 3:47
  Nest,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:48
  it
• 3:48
  was
• 3:48
  right
• 3:48
  across
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  street
• 3:49
  from
• 3:49
  where
• 3:49
  in
• 3:50
  Rockland
• 3:50
  County,
• 3:50
  New
• 3:51
  York,
• 3:51
  where
• 3:51
  Bruce
• 3:52
  Springsteen
• 3:52
  recorded
• 3:53
  Born
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  Run.
• 3:54
  Oh,
• 3:55
  Blauvelt.
• 3:56
  Blauvelt.
• 3:57
  Blauvelt.
• 3:57
  Right.
• 3:58
  And
• 3:58
  this
• 3:58
  club
• 3:58
  was
• 3:59
  right
• 3:59
  there,
• 3:59
  and
• 4:00
  they
• 4:00
  were
• 4:01
  doing
• 4:01
  disco
• 4:01
  and
• 4:02
  having,
• 4:02
  like,
• 4:02
  10
• 4:02
  people
• 4:03
  on
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  Saturday
• 4:03
  night.
• 4:03
  They
• 4:04
  were
• 4:04
  dying.
• 4:04
  So
• 4:04
  I
• 4:04
  went
• 4:04
  in
• 4:04
  and
• 4:05
  said,
• 4:05
  hey,
• 4:05
  have
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  tried
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  new
• 4:06
  wave?
• 4:07
  Yeah,
• 4:07
  let's
• 4:07
  do
• 4:07
  new
• 4:08
  wave.
• 4:08
  And
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  had
• 4:09
  600
• 4:10
  people
• 4:10
  show
• 4:10
  up
• 4:10
  the
• 4:10
  following
• 4:11
  Saturday.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:12
  it
• 4:12
  was
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  killer
• 4:13
  promotion
• 4:14
  because
• 4:14
  there
• 4:14
  were
• 4:15
  so
• 4:15
  many
• 4:15
  people
• 4:15
  showing
• 4:16
  up.
• 4:16
  There
• 4:16
  were
• 4:16
  cars
• 4:16
  parked
• 4:16
  on
• 4:17
  both
• 4:17
  sides
• 4:17
  of
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  road,
• 4:17
  and
• 4:18
  someone
• 4:18
  actually
• 4:18
  got
• 4:18
  hit
• 4:19
  by
• 4:19
  a
• 4:19
  car
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  killed.
• 4:20
  Whoa.
• 4:20
  Yeah.
• 4:22
  Did
• 4:22
  you
• 4:22
  arrange
• 4:22
  for
• 4:23
  that?
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  did
• 4:23
  not
• 4:23
  arrange
• 4:24
  for
• 4:24
  that
• 4:24
  publicity.
• 4:25
  But
• 4:26
  I
• 4:26
  will
• 4:26
  say,
• 4:26
  when
• 4:26
  someone
• 4:26
  says
• 4:27
  it's
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  killer
• 4:27
  promotion,
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  bow.
• 4:29
  It's
• 4:31
  partly
• 4:32
  responsible.
• 4:32
  And,
• 4:33
  Ben,
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  have
• 4:34
  produced
• 4:35
  a
• 4:35
  lot
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  folks,
• 4:36
  too.
• 4:36
  Alice
• 4:36
  Chilton,
• 4:37
  Ween.
• 4:38
  Lost
• 4:38
  Straight
• 4:38
  Jackets,
• 4:39
  Nancy
• 4:39
  Sinatra.
• 4:40
  How
• 4:40
  was
• 4:40
  that?
• 4:41
  Working
• 4:41
  with
• 4:41
  Nancy
• 4:42
  was
• 4:42
  great.
• 4:42
  Yeah.
• 4:42
  She's
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  perfectionist,
• 4:44
  though.
• 4:44
  She
• 4:44
  wants
• 4:44
  to
• 4:45
  sing
• 4:46
  over
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  over
• 4:46
  again.
• 4:47
  And
• 4:47
  her
• 4:47
  first
• 4:48
  take
• 4:48
  is
• 4:48
  amazing.
• 4:49
  She
• 4:49
  has
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  great
• 4:50
  voice.
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  mean,
• 4:50
  she's
• 4:50
  underrated.
• 4:52
  Just
• 4:52
  an
• 4:52
  amazing
• 4:53
  singer.
• 4:54
  And
• 4:54
  working
• 4:54
  with
• 4:54
  her
• 4:54
  up
• 4:55
  close
• 4:55
  is
• 4:55
  really
• 4:55
  cool.
• 4:56
  Like,
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  rehearse
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  material
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  hear
• 4:57
  her
• 4:57
  without
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  microphone,
• 4:58
  to
• 4:59
  actually
• 4:59
  hear
• 4:59
  her
• 5:00
  human
• 5:00
  voice
• 5:00
  near
• 5:01
  your
• 5:02
  ear
• 5:03
  was
• 5:03
  really
• 5:03
  great.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:05
  it
• 5:05
  was
• 5:06
  for
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  film
• 5:07
  called
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  Independent,
• 5:08
  which
• 5:08
  was
• 5:08
  a
• 5:09
  mockumentary
• 5:10
  about
• 5:10
  a
• 5:11
  B
• 5:11
  movie
• 5:12
  film
• 5:12
  producer.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  Independent.
• 5:16
  Yes,
• 5:16
  I
• 5:17
  was
• 5:17
  in
• 5:17
  that
• 5:17
  movie.
• 5:18
  Are
• 5:19
  you
• 5:19
  in
• 5:19
  that,
• 5:19
  Stephen
• 5:20
  Kessler?
• 5:20
  Yeah,
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  was
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  that
• 5:22
  movie.
• 5:22
  My.
• 5:22
  My
• 5:23
  late
• 5:23
  wife
• 5:23
  Melinda
• 5:24
  and
• 5:24
  I
• 5:25
  played
• 5:25
  the
• 5:26
  parents
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  a
• 5:28
  Siamese
• 5:28
  twin,
• 5:29
  one
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  whom
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  a.
• 5:31
  Anti
• 5:31
  War
• 5:32
  Brothers
• 5:32
  Divided.
• 5:33
  The
• 5:33
  brothers
• 5:33
  Divided.
• 5:34
  That's
• 5:34
  right.
• 5:35
  That's
• 5:35
  you.
• 5:35
  Yes.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  knew.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  recognized.
• 5:37
  He's
• 5:37
  been
• 5:37
  in
• 5:37
  every
• 5:37
  production
• 5:38
  in
• 5:38
  Hollywood.
• 5:39
  That's
• 5:39
  amazing.
• 5:39
  You're
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  father
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  Siamese
• 5:41
  twins.
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  am.
• 5:42
  I
• 5:43
  knew
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  recogn.
• 5:44
  Wow.
• 5:45
  Yeah.
• 5:45
  Yeah.
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  did
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  music.
• 5:47
  Brothers
• 5:47
  Divided.
• 5:49
  Oh
• 5:49
  my
• 5:49
  God.
• 5:50
  Amazing.
• 5:51
  Meet
• 5:51
  again.
• 5:52
  Yes.
• 5:52
  You
• 5:53
  do.
• 5:53
  Of
• 5:53
  course,
• 5:53
  your
• 5:53
  own
• 5:54
  original
• 5:54
  music,
• 5:54
  which
• 5:55
  has
• 5:55
  been
• 5:56
  described
• 5:56
  as
• 5:56
  nearly
• 5:57
  impossible
• 5:57
  to
• 5:58
  define,
• 5:59
  which
• 5:59
  is
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  point.
• 6:00
  Can
• 6:00
  you
• 6:01
  explain
• 6:01
  that?
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  never
• 6:02
  heard
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  description.
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  know.
• 6:04
  It's
• 6:04
  on
• 6:04
  your
• 6:04
  website.
• 6:05
  It's
• 6:05
  nearly
• 6:05
  impossible
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  find
• 6:07
  sometimes.
• 6:08
  A
• 6:09
  lot
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  it's
• 6:09
  out
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  print,
• 6:10
  but.
• 6:11
  Wow.
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  don't
• 6:12
  know.
• 6:12
  You
• 6:12
  know,
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  don't
• 6:12
  know
• 6:12
  how
• 6:13
  to.
• 6:13
  It's
• 6:13
  impossible
• 6:14
  to
• 6:14
  describe
• 6:14
  your
• 6:14
  own
• 6:14
  music.
• 6:15
  Really?
• 6:15
  Yeah.
• 6:16
  Or
• 6:16
  like,
• 6:17
  how
• 6:17
  would
• 6:17
  you
• 6:17
  describe
• 6:17
  what
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  guys
• 6:18
  do?
• 6:18
  You
• 6:19
  don't
• 6:19
  want
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  hear,
• 6:19
  right?
• 6:21
  You're
• 6:21
  right,
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  don't.
• 6:23
  And
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  won't.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  even
• 6:25
  more
• 6:25
  so,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:25
  don't
• 6:25
  want
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  hear
• 6:26
  it
• 6:26
  either.
• 6:28
  But
• 6:28
  you
• 6:29
  had
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  in
• 6:29
  your
• 6:29
  blood
• 6:29
  from
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  beginning.
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  read
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  you
• 6:31
  had
• 6:31
  your
• 6:31
  first
• 6:32
  band
• 6:32
  back
• 6:32
  in
• 6:32
  1967.
• 6:34
  You
• 6:34
  practiced
• 6:35
  around
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  corner
• 6:36
  from
• 6:36
  a
• 6:36
  7
• 6:36
  11.
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  had
• 6:38
  one
• 6:38
  string
• 6:38
  guitar
• 6:38
  and
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  played
• 6:39
  it
• 6:39
  on
• 6:39
  my
• 6:39
  lap
• 6:40
  because
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  was
• 6:40
  12
• 6:40
  years
• 6:41
  old
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  didn't
• 6:41
  have
• 6:42
  no
• 6:42
  strap.
• 6:42
  It
• 6:43
  was
• 6:43
  my
• 6:43
  first
• 6:44
  band.
• 6:45
  That
• 6:45
  is
• 6:45
  completely
• 6:46
  autobiographical.
• 6:47
  Your
• 6:47
  first
• 6:47
  guitar
• 6:48
  only
• 6:48
  had
• 6:48
  one
• 6:48
  string?
• 6:49
  It
• 6:49
  did.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  was
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  drummer
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  when
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  12
• 6:52
  years
• 6:52
  old,
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  was
• 6:53
  playing
• 6:53
  gigs
• 6:53
  as
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  drummer,
• 6:54
  playing
• 6:54
  dances
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  stuff,
• 6:55
  which
• 6:55
  is
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  great
• 6:56
  instrument
• 6:56
  to
• 6:57
  start
• 6:57
  on
• 6:57
  because
• 6:57
  you
• 6:57
  can
• 6:58
  either
• 6:58
  inspire
• 6:58
  people
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  dance
• 6:59
  or
• 6:59
  inspire
• 7:00
  them
• 7:00
  not
• 7:00
  to,
• 7:00
  depending
• 7:01
  on
• 7:01
  whether
• 7:01
  you're
• 7:01
  good.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  Philly,
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  Philly
• 7:05
  area,
• 7:06
  dancing
• 7:06
  is
• 7:06
  really
• 7:07
  important.
• 7:07
  So
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  have
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  really
• 7:08
  get
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  beat
• 7:09
  right
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  keep
• 7:10
  people
• 7:10
  on
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  dance
• 7:10
  floor
• 7:11
  or
• 7:11
  you
• 7:11
  don't
• 7:11
  get
• 7:11
  asked
• 7:12
  back.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:13
  then
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  decided
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  wanted
• 7:14
  to
• 7:14
  write
• 7:15
  songs
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  I
• 7:16
  had
• 7:16
  a
• 7:16
  guitar,
• 7:16
  it
• 7:16
  only
• 7:16
  had
• 7:17
  one
• 7:17
  string,
• 7:17
  so
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  had
• 7:17
  to
• 7:18
  start.
• 7:18
  I
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  able
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  play
• 7:19
  Rebel
• 7:20
  Rouser
• 7:20
  by
• 7:21
  Duane
• 7:22
  Eddy
• 7:22
  until
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  key
• 7:23
  change
• 7:23
  and
• 7:24
  then
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  didn't
• 7:26
  have
• 7:26
  another
• 7:27
  string.
• 7:27
  So
• 7:30
  you
• 7:31
  said
• 7:31
  your
• 7:31
  repertoire
• 7:31
  with
• 7:31
  the
• 7:32
  one
• 7:32
  string
• 7:32
  consisted
• 7:33
  of
• 7:33
  Satisfaction,
• 7:33
  Peter
• 7:34
  Gunn.
• 7:35
  Yeah,
• 7:35
  yeah.
• 7:36
  And
• 7:36
  Half
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  Rebel,
• 7:37
  Half
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  Rebel
• 7:38
  Rel.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  those
• 7:41
  days
• 7:42
  you
• 7:42
  were
• 7:42
  trying
• 7:42
  to
• 7:42
  go
• 7:42
  psychedelic
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  you
• 7:45
  then
• 7:45
  were
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  a
• 7:45
  band
• 7:46
  called
• 7:46
  Verbal
• 7:46
  Garbage.
• 7:47
  Verbal
• 7:47
  Garbage,
• 7:48
  that's
• 7:48
  good.
• 7:48
  That's
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  nice
• 7:49
  title.
• 7:49
  How'd
• 7:50
  you
• 7:50
  come
• 7:50
  up
• 7:50
  with
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  one?
• 7:50
  I
• 7:51
  forget.
• 7:52
  We
• 7:52
  were
• 7:52
  just
• 7:52
  looking
• 7:53
  for
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  psychedelic
• 7:54
  name
• 7:54
  and
• 7:54
  Verbal
• 7:55
  Garbage
• 7:55
  sounded
• 7:56
  good.
• 7:56
  Sounds
• 7:56
  good
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  me.
• 7:57
  And
• 7:57
  your
• 7:58
  hit
• 7:58
  tune
• 7:59
  was
• 7:59
  Don't
• 8:00
  Spill
• 8:00
  Ketchup
• 8:00
  On
• 8:00
  My
• 8:01
  Toast
• 8:01
  Bread.
• 8:02
  Yes.
• 8:02
  Which
• 8:03
  had
• 8:03
  about
• 8:03
  a
• 8:04
  hundred
• 8:04
  and
• 8:04
  twenty
• 8:04
  verses
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  could
• 8:05
  literally
• 8:06
  last
• 8:06
  as
• 8:06
  long
• 8:07
  as
• 8:07
  four
• 8:07
  hours.
• 8:08
  You
• 8:08
  only
• 8:08
  played
• 8:09
  it
• 8:09
  live
• 8:09
  once?
• 8:10
  We
• 8:10
  did.
• 8:11
  Geez.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  reaction
• 8:12
  we
• 8:13
  got
• 8:13
  was
• 8:13
  not
• 8:13
  good.
• 8:13
  And
• 8:14
  my
• 8:14
  drummer
• 8:14
  said,
• 8:14
  don't
• 8:15
  worry,
• 8:15
  that
• 8:15
  means
• 8:15
  we're
• 8:15
  ahead
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  our
• 8:16
  time.
• 8:19
  Keep
• 8:20
  running.
• 8:22
  But
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  stayed
• 8:23
  at
• 8:23
  it
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  had
• 8:23
  another.
• 8:24
  This
• 8:24
  is
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  really
• 8:24
  funny
• 8:25
  one.
• 8:25
  The
• 8:25
  Derelicts.
• 8:26
  The
• 8:26
  Derelicts,
• 8:27
  yeah.
• 8:27
  We
• 8:27
  were
• 8:28
  like
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  50s
• 8:29
  rock
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  roll
• 8:30
  band.
• 8:30
  We
• 8:30
  greased
• 8:30
  our
• 8:30
  hair
• 8:31
  back
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  we
• 8:31
  did
• 8:32
  50s
• 8:32
  rock
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  roll
• 8:33
  tunes.
• 8:34
  This
• 8:34
  is
• 8:34
  early
• 8:34
  70s.
• 8:35
  Yeah,
• 8:35
  it
• 8:35
  would
• 8:35
  have
• 8:35
  been
• 8:36
  1971,
• 8:37
  probably.
• 8:38
  There's
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  quote
• 8:38
  here.
• 8:38
  Our
• 8:39
  last
• 8:39
  gig
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  a
• 8:40
  total
• 8:40
  embarrassment.
• 8:41
  We
• 8:41
  were
• 8:41
  too
• 8:41
  high
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  play
• 8:42
  our
• 8:42
  instruments.
• 8:43
  At
• 8:43
  least
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  was.
• 8:44
  Ironically.
• 8:45
  It
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  benefit
• 8:45
  dance
• 8:46
  for
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  local
• 8:46
  anti
• 8:47
  drug
• 8:47
  youth
• 8:47
  group.
• 8:48
  Yes,
• 8:48
  it
• 8:48
  was.
• 8:49
  Yeah.
• 8:50
  It
• 8:50
  was
• 8:50
  called
• 8:50
  the
• 8:51
  Smart
• 8:51
  Set
• 8:51
  Dance.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  Smart
• 8:52
  Set
• 8:52
  was
• 8:53
  this.
• 8:53
  You
• 8:53
  know,
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  guess
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  faculty
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  school
• 8:56
  decided
• 8:57
  to
• 8:57
  have
• 8:57
  an
• 8:57
  anti
• 8:58
  drug
• 8:58
  thing
• 8:58
  in.
• 8:59
  Try
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  attract
• 9:00
  kids
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  it.
• 9:00
  And
• 9:01
  we
• 9:01
  decided,
• 9:01
  perfect
• 9:02
  time
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  get
• 9:02
  high.
• 9:02
  So
• 9:02
  we
• 9:03
  were
• 9:03
  really
• 9:03
  loaded.
• 9:04
  Those
• 9:04
  were
• 9:04
  the
• 9:05
  times.
• 9:05
  Ten
• 9:05
  years
• 9:05
  before
• 9:06
  that,
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  good
• 9:07
  friend
• 9:07
  of
• 9:07
  ours
• 9:08
  who's
• 9:08
  been
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  show,
• 9:08
  Noel
• 9:09
  Blank,
• 9:09
  who's
• 9:09
  Mel
• 9:09
  Blanc's
• 9:10
  son,
• 9:10
  Looney
• 9:11
  Tunes
• 9:11
  fame.
• 9:12
  Had
• 9:12
  an
• 9:13
  advertising
• 9:13
  business
• 9:13
  in
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  60s.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:14
  he
• 9:15
  was
• 9:15
  hired
• 9:15
  to
• 9:15
  do
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  first
• 9:16
  anti
• 9:16
  smoking
• 9:16
  campaign,
• 9:17
  really
• 9:18
  for
• 9:18
  cigarettes
• 9:19
  in
• 9:19
  the
• 9:20
  60s.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:21
  when
• 9:21
  they
• 9:21
  did
• 9:21
  it,
• 9:22
  everybody
• 9:22
  was
• 9:23
  smoking
• 9:23
  cigarettes.
• 9:23
  Everybody
• 9:24
  was
• 9:24
  chain
• 9:24
  smoking
• 9:24
  through
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  whole
• 9:25
  session.
• 9:27
  My
• 9:28
  girlfriend,
• 9:29
  Adele
• 9:29
  Abrams,
• 9:30
  who's
• 9:30
  from
• 9:31
  Jersey,
• 9:31
  by
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  way,
• 9:32
  she
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  working
• 9:33
  for
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  Tobacco
• 9:33
  Institute
• 9:34
  around
• 9:34
  that
• 9:35
  time.
• 9:35
  Promoting.
• 9:36
  Right.
• 9:37
  Her
• 9:37
  job
• 9:37
  was
• 9:37
  to
• 9:38
  promote
• 9:38
  tobacco.
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  interviewed
• 9:41
  the
• 9:42
  spokesman
• 9:42
  from
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  Tobacco
• 9:43
  Institute,
• 9:44
  1976.
• 9:45
  They
• 9:45
  were
• 9:45
  still
• 9:45
  touring
• 9:46
  around.
• 9:46
  Should
• 9:47
  have
• 9:47
  been
• 9:47
  called
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  Tobacco
• 9:48
  Bureau
• 9:48
  tb.
• 9:49
  The
• 9:49
  guy
• 9:50
  had
• 9:50
  such
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  deep,
• 9:51
  smoky,
• 9:53
  damaged
• 9:53
  voice,
• 9:54
  but
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  nice
• 9:54
  way,
• 9:55
  golden
• 9:55
  tone.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  he
• 9:56
  was
• 9:56
  defending
• 9:57
  it.
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  said,
• 9:57
  well,
• 9:57
  what
• 9:57
  makes
• 9:58
  it
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  want
• 9:58
  to.
• 9:58
  I
• 9:59
  don't
• 9:59
  know,
• 9:59
  Ted,
• 9:59
  There
• 10:00
  are
• 10:00
  over
• 10:00
  3,000
• 10:01
  chemical
• 10:02
  combinations
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  cigarette.
• 10:04
  That's
• 10:05
  something
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  want
• 10:05
  to
• 10:06
  boast.
• 10:06
  Oh,
• 10:08
  more
• 10:08
  chemicals,
• 10:09
  please.
• 10:09
  Yeah.
• 10:11
  But
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  eventually
• 10:13
  went
• 10:13
  on
• 10:13
  your
• 10:13
  own
• 10:15
  solo
• 10:15
  career,
• 10:15
  beginning
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  late
• 10:16
  80s?
• 10:17
  Yeah.
• 10:18
  Wow.
• 10:19
  Yeah.
• 10:19
  So
• 10:20
  you
• 10:20
  were
• 10:21
  just
• 10:21
  absolutely
• 10:22
  determined.
• 10:23
  Well,
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  mean,
• 10:23
  you
• 10:24
  know,
• 10:24
  like
• 10:25
  you
• 10:25
  guys,
• 10:25
  you
• 10:26
  know,
• 10:26
  if
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  don't
• 10:26
  do
• 10:27
  it,
• 10:27
  you'll
• 10:27
  die.
• 10:27
  Yeah.
• 10:28
  You
• 10:28
  gotta
• 10:28
  stay
• 10:29
  creative
• 10:29
  every
• 10:29
  day,
• 10:30
  you
• 10:30
  know,
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  live.
• 10:31
  A
• 10:31
  rat
• 10:31
  must
• 10:31
  Chew,
• 10:32
  as
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  Firestein
• 10:33
  Theatre
• 10:33
  once
• 10:34
  put
• 10:34
  it.
• 10:36
  One
• 10:36
  of
• 10:37
  your
• 10:37
  many
• 10:37
  albums
• 10:38
  is
• 10:38
  Rambler
• 10:39
  65,
• 10:40
  which
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  released
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  97.
• 10:42
  Yes.
• 10:43
  It
• 10:43
  was
• 10:43
  recorded
• 10:44
  entirely
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  your
• 10:45
  car
• 10:46
  in
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  driveway
• 10:47
  of
• 10:47
  your
• 10:47
  home
• 10:47
  in
• 10:48
  New
• 10:48
  Jersey.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  it's
• 10:50
  considered
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  be
• 10:50
  a
• 10:51
  classic
• 10:51
  document
• 10:52
  of
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  man
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  his
• 10:53
  dream.
• 10:53
  You
• 10:53
  have
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  thing
• 10:54
  for
• 10:54
  Rambler
• 10:54
  cars?
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  do.
• 10:55
  I've
• 10:55
  owned
• 10:56
  five.
• 10:56
  Really?
• 10:57
  Yeah.
• 10:57
  Rambling
• 10:58
  Man
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  am.
• 10:59
  My
• 10:59
  family's
• 10:59
  first
• 10:59
  car
• 11:00
  was
• 11:00
  a
• 11:00
  59
• 11:00
  white
• 11:01
  Rambler
• 11:01
  wagon.
• 11:02
  Really?
• 11:02
  And
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  remember
• 11:03
  it
• 11:03
  very
• 11:03
  well
• 11:03
  because
• 11:03
  I
• 11:04
  got
• 11:04
  hideously
• 11:05
  car
• 11:05
  sick
• 11:05
  in
• 11:05
  it
• 11:06
  all
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  time.
• 11:07
  Then
• 11:07
  this
• 11:07
  album
• 11:08
  is
• 11:08
  not
• 11:08
  for
• 11:08
  you.
• 11:11
  You
• 11:11
  wanted
• 11:11
  to
• 11:11
  record
• 11:12
  this
• 11:12
  record,
• 11:13
  and
• 11:14
  somehow
• 11:14
  you
• 11:15
  were
• 11:16
  frustrated
• 11:17
  by
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  studio
• 11:17
  situation,
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  expensive
• 11:18
  studio
• 11:19
  situation,
• 11:19
  so
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  decided
• 11:20
  to
• 11:21
  record
• 11:21
  your
• 11:21
  album
• 11:22
  inside
• 11:22
  your
• 11:22
  Rambler.
• 11:23
  Well,
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  was
• 11:24
  in
• 11:24
  a
• 11:24
  recording
• 11:25
  studio,
• 11:25
  an
• 11:25
  expensive
• 11:26
  recording
• 11:26
  studio,
• 11:27
  and
• 11:27
  we
• 11:27
  were
• 11:28
  not
• 11:28
  getting
• 11:28
  good
• 11:28
  sounds.
• 11:29
  What
• 11:29
  was
• 11:29
  this?
• 11:29
  Back
• 11:29
  East?
• 11:30
  Yeah,
• 11:30
  in
• 11:30
  New
• 11:31
  York.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  I.
• 11:32
  As
• 11:33
  a
• 11:33
  joke,
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  said
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  could
• 11:34
  get
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  better
• 11:34
  sound
• 11:34
  in
• 11:34
  my
• 11:35
  car.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:36
  everybody
• 11:36
  laughed.
• 11:37
  And
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  started
• 11:37
  thinking
• 11:38
  about
• 11:38
  it
• 11:38
  like,
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  wonder
• 11:38
  if
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  could.
• 11:40
  And
• 11:40
  then
• 11:41
  I
• 11:42
  made
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  mistake
• 11:42
  of
• 11:43
  telling
• 11:43
  people
• 11:43
  that
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  could
• 11:44
  make
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  great
• 11:45
  record
• 11:46
  in
• 11:46
  my
• 11:46
  car.
• 11:46
  And
• 11:46
  then
• 11:47
  they
• 11:47
  told
• 11:47
  me
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  prove
• 11:47
  it,
• 11:48
  so
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  had
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  prove
• 11:48
  it.
• 11:49
  And
• 11:49
  the
• 11:50
  funny
• 11:50
  thing
• 11:50
  about
• 11:50
  it
• 11:50
  was,
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  was
• 11:52
  turning
• 11:52
  40
• 11:52
  at
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  time,
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  thought
• 11:54
  that
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  was
• 11:54
  avoiding
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  midlife
• 11:55
  crisis
• 11:56
  by
• 11:56
  doing
• 11:57
  this.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:57
  then
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  realized,
• 11:58
  this
• 11:58
  is.
• 11:59
  This
• 11:59
  is
• 11:59
  your
• 11:59
  midlife
• 12:00
  crisis.
• 12:00
  A
• 12:00
  midlife
• 12:01
  crisis.
• 12:02
  A
• 12:02
  classic
• 12:03
  example.
• 12:03
  A
• 12:03
  guy
• 12:04
  moves
• 12:04
  his
• 12:04
  entire
• 12:04
  studio
• 12:05
  into
• 12:05
  his
• 12:05
  car
• 12:06
  for
• 12:06
  weeks.
• 12:07
  That's
• 12:08
  a
• 12:08
  midlife
• 12:08
  crisis.
• 12:08
  Now,
• 12:09
  technically,
• 12:09
  what
• 12:09
  did
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  do?
• 12:10
  Did
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  run
• 12:10
  a
• 12:10
  wire
• 12:11
  from
• 12:11
  your.
• 12:12
  Your.
• 12:13
  Your
• 12:13
  basement
• 12:13
  into
• 12:14
  your
• 12:14
  car?
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  moved
• 12:15
  all
• 12:15
  my
• 12:15
  gear
• 12:16
  out,
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  I
• 12:16
  just
• 12:16
  ran
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  big
• 12:17
  orange
• 12:18
  extension
• 12:18
  cord
• 12:19
  into
• 12:19
  the
• 12:20
  house.
• 12:20
  Right.
• 12:21
  And
• 12:21
  every
• 12:21
  day
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  would
• 12:22
  move.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:22
  your.
• 12:23
  Your
• 12:23
  studio
• 12:23
  was
• 12:24
  actually
• 12:24
  in
• 12:24
  your
• 12:24
  car?
• 12:25
  Yeah,
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  had
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  reel
• 12:25
  to
• 12:26
  reel.
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  had
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  speakers
• 12:27
  and
• 12:28
  an
• 12:28
  amplifier.
• 12:30
  And
• 12:30
  one
• 12:30
  thing
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  discovered
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  was
• 12:31
  really
• 12:31
  great
• 12:32
  is
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  trunk
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  car
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  great
• 12:34
  isolation
• 12:35
  booth.
• 12:35
  Yeah.
• 12:36
  Because
• 12:36
  I
• 12:36
  put
• 12:37
  my
• 12:37
  Fender
• 12:37
  Deluxe
• 12:38
  AMP
• 12:38
  in
• 12:38
  there
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  I
• 12:39
  closed
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  trunk
• 12:39
  and
• 12:40
  ran
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  wire.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  ran
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  wire
• 12:43
  through
• 12:43
  the
• 12:44
  tail
• 12:44
  light.
• 12:44
  I
• 12:45
  took
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  tail
• 12:45
  light
• 12:45
  off
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  ran
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  wire
• 12:46
  out,
• 12:46
  and
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  was
• 12:47
  able
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  sing
• 12:47
  in
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  car
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  play
• 12:50
  electric
• 12:50
  guitar
• 12:50
  with
• 12:51
  no
• 12:51
  bleed
• 12:51
  through.
• 12:51
  It
• 12:52
  was
• 12:52
  completely.
• 12:53
  And
• 12:53
  in
• 12:53
  Jersey,
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  were
• 12:54
  also
• 12:54
  entertaining
• 12:55
  the
• 12:56
  guy
• 12:56
  who
• 12:56
  was
• 12:56
  in
• 12:56
  the.
• 12:57
  Locked
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  the
• 12:58
  trunk.
• 12:58
  Yeah,
• 12:59
  exactly.
• 12:59
  You
• 13:00
  recorded
• 13:00
  as.
• 13:00
  Saying
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  was.
• 13:01
  Was
• 13:01
  not
• 13:01
  the
• 13:02
  smartest
• 13:02
  decision
• 13:02
  you
• 13:03
  ever
• 13:03
  made.
• 13:04
  It
• 13:04
  was
• 13:04
  very
• 13:04
  claustrophobic
• 13:05
  in
• 13:05
  there
• 13:05
  with
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  recording
• 13:06
  equipment.
• 13:06
  But
• 13:07
  it
• 13:07
  was
• 13:07
  a
• 13:08
  dare
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  made
• 13:08
  to
• 13:08
  myself.
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  had
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  finish.
• 13:10
  At
• 13:10
  one
• 13:10
  point,
• 13:10
  there
• 13:10
  was
• 13:11
  a
• 13:11
  bee
• 13:11
  inside
• 13:11
  the
• 13:12
  car,
• 13:12
  and
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  jumped
• 13:12
  out.
• 13:13
  And
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  still
• 13:13
  had
• 13:13
  my
• 13:13
  headphones
• 13:14
  on
• 13:14
  my
• 13:14
  head,
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  dragged
• 13:15
  all
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  equipment
• 13:15
  out
• 13:15
  onto
• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  car.
• 13:16
  Oh,
• 13:16
  geez.
• 13:18
  This
• 13:18
  is
• 13:18
  true.
• 13:19
  This
• 13:19
  is
• 13:19
  true.
• 13:21
  That
• 13:21
  was
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  B
• 13:22
  side.
• 13:23
  But
• 13:24
  again,
• 13:24
  you
• 13:24
  stuck
• 13:24
  with
• 13:24
  it.
• 13:25
  You
• 13:25
  said,
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  dare
• 13:26
  anyone
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  get
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  good
• 13:27
  sound
• 13:27
  out
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  Lexus.
• 13:28
  There's
• 13:28
  just
• 13:28
  more
• 13:28
  metal
• 13:29
  in
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  way
• 13:29
  when
• 13:30
  they
• 13:30
  used
• 13:30
  to
• 13:31
  make
• 13:31
  them.
• 13:31
  Yeah.
• 13:32
  That's
• 13:32
  true.
• 13:32
  Wow.
• 13:33
  Well,
• 13:33
  let's
• 13:33
  play
• 13:33
  one
• 13:33
  of
• 13:34
  the
• 13:34
  tunes
• 13:34
  that
• 13:34
  you
• 13:34
  recorded.
• 13:35
  Yeah,
• 13:35
  it
• 13:35
  came
• 13:35
  out
• 13:36
  great.
• 13:36
  It
• 13:36
  sounds
• 13:36
  great.
• 13:36
  In
• 13:37
  your
• 13:37
  Rambler.
• 13:37
  This
• 13:37
  is
• 13:38
  Ben
• 13:38
  Vaughn
• 13:39
  and
• 13:39
  Seven
• 13:39
  Days
• 13:39
  Without
• 13:40
  Love.
• 13:42
  Seven
• 13:42
  days
• 13:43
  without
• 13:43
  love
• 13:44
  makes
• 13:45
  one
• 13:45
  week.
• 13:46
  A
• 13:46
  man
• 13:46
  can
• 13:47
  stand
• 13:47
  on
• 13:47
  his
• 13:48
  own
• 13:48
  two
• 13:48
  feet.
• 13:49
  He
• 13:49
  can't
• 13:50
  do
• 13:50
  his
• 13:50
  job,
• 13:51
  can't
• 13:51
  get
• 13:51
  a
• 13:52
  sleep.
• 13:52
  Seven
• 13:52
  days
• 13:53
  without
• 13:53
  love
• 13:54
  makes
• 13:54
  one
• 13:55
  week.
• 13:56
  The
• 13:56
  first
• 13:56
  day
• 13:57
  it's
• 13:57
  quiet
• 13:58
  at
• 13:58
  home.
• 13:59
  You're
• 14:00
  enjoying
• 14:00
  all
• 14:00
  your
• 14:01
  time
• 14:01
  alone.
• 14:02
  The
• 14:03
  second
• 14:03
  day
• 14:04
  doing
• 14:04
  all
• 14:05
  right.
• 14:06
  You're
• 14:06
  going
• 14:06
  out
• 14:07
  with
• 14:07
  your
• 14:07
  friends
• 14:08
  tonight.
• 14:08
  But
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  third
• 14:09
  day,
• 14:10
  well,
• 14:10
  that's
• 14:11
  something
• 14:11
  else.
• 14:12
  You're
• 14:13
  getting
• 14:13
  tired
• 14:13
  of
• 14:13
  being
• 14:14
  by
• 14:14
  yourself.
• 14:15
  Seven
• 14:15
  days
• 14:16
  without
• 14:16
  love
• 14:17
  makes
• 14:17
  one
• 14:18
  week.
• 14:19
  A
• 14:19
  man
• 14:19
  can't
• 14:20
  stand
• 14:20
  on
• 14:20
  his
• 14:21
  own
• 14:21
  two
• 14:21
  feet.
• 14:22
  He
• 14:22
  can't
• 14:23
  do
• 14:23
  his
• 14:23
  job,
• 14:24
  can't
• 14:24
  get
• 14:24
  no
• 14:25
  sleep.
• 14:25
  Seven
• 14:25
  days
• 14:26
  without
• 14:26
  love
• 14:27
  makes
• 14:27
  one
• 14:28
  week.
• 14:29
  The
• 14:29
  fourth
• 14:29
  day,
• 14:30
  same
• 14:31
  old
• 14:31
  thing.
• 14:32
  Sitting
• 14:32
  there
• 14:33
  waiting
• 14:33
  for
• 14:33
  that
• 14:34
  phone
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  ring.
• 14:36
  There's
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  cryin
• 14:37
  shame
• 14:38
  walking
• 14:39
  in
• 14:39
  circles.
• 14:40
  Calling
• 14:41
  out
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  name
• 14:41
  of
• 14:41
  the
• 14:42
  sex
• 14:42
  day.
• 14:43
  Well,
• 14:43
  there's
• 14:43
  no
• 14:44
  use
• 14:44
  trying.
• 14:45
  If
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  don't
• 14:46
  come
• 14:46
  back,
• 14:46
  you're
• 14:46
  gonna
• 14:47
  lose
• 14:47
  your
• 14:48
  mind.
• 14:48
  Seven
• 14:48
  days
• 14:49
  without
• 14:49
  love
• 14:50
  makes
• 14:50
  one
• 14:51
  weak.
• 14:52
  A
• 14:52
  man
• 14:52
  can't
• 14:53
  stand
• 14:53
  on
• 14:53
  his
• 14:53
  own
• 14:54
  two
• 14:54
  feet.
• 14:55
  He
• 14:55
  can't
• 14:55
  do
• 14:56
  his
• 14:56
  job,
• 14:57
  can't
• 14:57
  get
• 14:57
  a
• 14:57
  sleep.
• 14:58
  Seven
• 14:58
  days
• 14:59
  without
• 14:59
  love
• 15:00
  makes
• 15:00
  one
• 15:01
  weak.
• 15:02
  You're
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  nervous
• 15:03
  wreck.
• 15:04
  Ever
• 15:04
  since
• 15:04
  she
• 15:05
  left.
• 15:05
  Another
• 15:06
  week
• 15:06
  goes
• 15:06
  by.
• 15:07
  You
• 15:07
  think
• 15:07
  you're
• 15:07
  go
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  die.
• 15:27
  Seven
• 15:28
  days
• 15:28
  without
• 15:28
  love.
• 15:29
  Seven
• 15:29
  days
• 15:30
  without
• 15:30
  love.
• 15:30
  Seven
• 15:31
  days
• 15:31
  without
• 15:32
  love
• 15:33
  makes
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  weak.
• 15:34
  A
• 15:35
  man
• 15:35
  can
• 15:35
  stand
• 15:35
  on
• 15:36
  his
• 15:36
  own
• 15:36
  two
• 15:37
  feet.
• 15:37
  He
• 15:38
  can't
• 15:38
  do
• 15:38
  his
• 15:38
  job,
• 15:39
  can't
• 15:39
  get
• 15:40
  sleep.
• 15:40
  Seven
• 15:41
  days
• 15:41
  without
• 15:41
  love
• 15:42
  makes
• 15:43
  one
• 15:43
  week.
• 15:43
  Seven
• 15:44
  days.
• 15:47
  Seven
• 15:47
  days.
• 15:50
  Seven
• 15:50
  days.
• 15:54
  Great.
• 15:54
  All
• 15:55
  right
• 15:55
  then.
• 15:55
  Vroom,
• 15:55
  vroom.
• 15:56
  Seven
• 15:56
  days
• 15:56
  without
• 15:57
  love.
• 15:57
  How'd
• 15:57
  you
• 15:57
  get
• 15:57
  the
• 15:58
  drums
• 15:58
  in
• 15:58
  there?
• 15:58
  Yeah,
• 15:59
  how'd
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  get
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  drums
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  the
• 16:00
  Rambler?
• 16:00
  It's
• 16:00
  just
• 16:00
  a
• 16:00
  snare
• 16:01
  drum
• 16:01
  I'm
• 16:01
  hitting.
• 16:03
  There's
• 16:03
  no
• 16:03
  kick
• 16:04
  drum.
• 16:04
  The
• 16:04
  kick
• 16:04
  drum
• 16:04
  is
• 16:05
  my
• 16:05
  foot
• 16:05
  on
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  floor.
• 16:08
  Okay.
• 16:09
  Ben
• 16:09
  Vaughn.
• 16:10
  Yes.
• 16:10
  Singer,
• 16:11
  songwriter
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  radio
• 16:12
  person.
• 16:13
  Yeah.
• 16:13
  So
• 16:13
  tell.
• 16:13
  You
• 16:13
  do
• 16:13
  a
• 16:14
  radio
• 16:14
  show
• 16:14
  now?
• 16:14
  I
• 16:15
  have
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  syndicated
• 16:15
  radio
• 16:16
  show,
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  Many
• 16:16
  Moods
• 16:17
  of
• 16:17
  Ben
• 16:17
  Vaughn.
• 16:18
  How
• 16:18
  long
• 16:18
  has
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  been
• 16:18
  on?
• 16:19
  Oh,
• 16:20
  yeah.
• 16:20
  Really?
• 16:20
  That
• 16:21
  long?
• 16:21
  15
• 16:21
  years?
• 16:22
  20
• 16:22
  years.
• 16:22
  Oh,
• 16:22
  wow.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:23
  it's
• 16:23
  syndicated
• 16:24
  radio?
• 16:24
  Yeah,
• 16:25
  individually
• 16:26
  syndicated,
• 16:26
  though.
• 16:26
  Like,
• 16:26
  I
• 16:27
  call
• 16:27
  each.
• 16:27
  It's
• 16:28
  like
• 16:28
  Death
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  a
• 16:28
  Salesman
• 16:28
  the
• 16:29
  way
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  do
• 16:29
  it.
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  call
• 16:31
  or
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  email
• 16:31
  and
• 16:32
  say,
• 16:32
  do
• 16:32
  you
• 16:32
  have
• 16:32
  an
• 16:32
  hour?
• 16:33
  Yeah,
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  offer
• 16:33
  it
• 16:34
  for
• 16:34
  free
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  I
• 16:35
  have
• 16:36
  26
• 16:36
  stations
• 16:37
  out
• 16:37
  there.
• 16:37
  Wow,
• 16:37
  that's
• 16:38
  so
• 16:39
  quaint.
• 16:40
  It
• 16:40
  is.
• 16:41
  Yeah.
• 16:41
  That's
• 16:41
  the
• 16:42
  idea.
• 16:42
  I'm
• 16:42
  living
• 16:42
  the
• 16:43
  quaint
• 16:43
  life.
• 16:44
  However,
• 16:44
  I
• 16:45
  Can.
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  think
• 16:45
  it's
• 16:46
  great.
• 16:46
  Particularly
• 16:47
  young
• 16:47
  people
• 16:47
  are
• 16:48
  starting
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  rediscover
• 16:49
  radio.
• 16:49
  The
• 16:49
  most
• 16:50
  effective
• 16:50
  messaging
• 16:51
  is
• 16:51
  in
• 16:51
  the
• 16:52
  audio
• 16:52
  medium.
• 16:52
  It
• 16:53
  clings
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  people
• 16:54
  because
• 16:54
  it's
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  a
• 16:54
  personal
• 16:55
  experience.
• 16:56
  And
• 16:57
  I
• 16:57
  guess
• 16:57
  because
• 16:57
  you
• 16:58
  have
• 16:58
  to
• 16:58
  stimulate
• 16:58
  your
• 16:58
  visual
• 16:59
  imagination
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  comprehend
• 17:00
  radio
• 17:01
  so
• 17:01
  it
• 17:01
  just
• 17:01
  sticks
• 17:02
  a
• 17:02
  little
• 17:02
  better.
• 17:03
  I
• 17:03
  mean,
• 17:03
  I'm
• 17:03
  sure
• 17:03
  we
• 17:03
  stick
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  people
• 17:04
  pretty
• 17:04
  well,
• 17:05
  like
• 17:06
  super
• 17:06
  glue.
• 17:07
  So
• 17:07
  you're
• 17:07
  bicycling
• 17:09
  your
• 17:09
  show
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  all
• 17:10
  these
• 17:10
  different
• 17:10
  radio
• 17:10
  stations?
• 17:11
  Yeah.
• 17:12
  In
• 17:12
  Philadelphia,
• 17:13
  there
• 17:13
  was
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  guy
• 17:13
  named
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  Gator
• 17:14
  with
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  heater,
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  disc
• 17:15
  jockey,
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  boss
• 17:16
  with
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  hot
• 17:17
  sauce.
• 17:17
  And
• 17:17
  I
• 17:18
  studied
• 17:18
  under
• 17:18
  him,
• 17:18
  I
• 17:19
  became
• 17:19
  friends
• 17:19
  with
• 17:19
  him.
• 17:19
  He
• 17:20
  played
• 17:20
  all
• 17:20
  these
• 17:20
  crazy
• 17:20
  doo
• 17:21
  wop
• 17:21
  and
• 17:22
  hardcore
• 17:22
  R
• 17:22
  and
• 17:23
  B
• 17:23
  records.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  became
• 17:24
  friends
• 17:25
  with
• 17:25
  him
• 17:25
  and
• 17:25
  I
• 17:25
  would
• 17:25
  go
• 17:26
  with
• 17:26
  him
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  watch
• 17:27
  him
• 17:28
  sell
• 17:28
  ad
• 17:28
  time.
• 17:29
  He
• 17:29
  would
• 17:29
  buy
• 17:30
  time
• 17:30
  on
• 17:30
  stations,
• 17:31
  commercial
• 17:31
  stations,
• 17:32
  and
• 17:32
  then
• 17:32
  he
• 17:33
  would
• 17:33
  sell
• 17:33
  all
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  ads
• 17:35
  himself.
• 17:35
  And
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  would
• 17:36
  go
• 17:36
  with
• 17:36
  him
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  pizzerias,
• 17:37
  used
• 17:38
  car
• 17:38
  dealerships,
• 17:39
  all
• 17:39
  this
• 17:39
  stuff.
• 17:39
  And
• 17:39
  I
• 17:40
  just,
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  studied
• 17:40
  under
• 17:41
  this
• 17:41
  guy
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  I'm
• 17:41
  like,
• 17:41
  this
• 17:41
  is
• 17:42
  a
• 17:42
  great
• 17:42
  way
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  live.
• 17:43
  He
• 17:43
  had
• 17:43
  a.
• 17:43
  He
• 17:43
  had
• 17:43
  a
• 17:44
  connection
• 17:44
  with
• 17:44
  all
• 17:45
  these
• 17:45
  people,
• 17:45
  you
• 17:46
  know,
• 17:46
  and
• 17:46
  he
• 17:47
  was
• 17:47
  on
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  bunch
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  little
• 17:48
  stations,
• 17:49
  like
• 17:49
  a
• 17:49
  90
• 17:49
  mile
• 17:50
  radius,
• 17:50
  maybe
• 17:50
  five
• 17:51
  or
• 17:51
  six
• 17:51
  little
• 17:52
  stations.
• 17:53
  And
• 17:53
  he
• 17:53
  had
• 17:53
  relationships
• 17:54
  with
• 17:54
  all
• 17:54
  the.
• 17:55
  All
• 17:55
  the
• 17:56
  station
• 17:56
  managers
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  program
• 17:57
  directors
• 17:57
  and
• 17:58
  stuff.
• 17:58
  And
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  watched
• 17:59
  this
• 17:59
  and
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  thought,
• 17:59
  well,
• 17:59
  this
• 18:00
  is.
• 18:02
  Did
• 18:02
  he
• 18:02
  have
• 18:02
  regular
• 18:03
  shows
• 18:03
  on
• 18:03
  all
• 18:04
  these
• 18:04
  different
• 18:05
  stations?
• 18:05
  Really?
• 18:06
  He
• 18:06
  had
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  four
• 18:06
  hour
• 18:07
  show
• 18:07
  every
• 18:07
  day.
• 18:08
  And
• 18:08
  he
• 18:08
  played
• 18:09
  amazing
• 18:09
  stuff,
• 18:10
  just
• 18:10
  amazing
• 18:10
  stuff.
• 18:11
  So
• 18:11
  what
• 18:11
  Philadelphia
• 18:12
  station
• 18:12
  in
• 18:12
  Philly
• 18:13
  he
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  on?
• 18:15
  It
• 18:15
  changed
• 18:16
  a
• 18:16
  lot.
• 18:16
  He
• 18:16
  started
• 18:17
  on
• 18:17
  WCAM
• 18:18
  in
• 18:18
  Camden.
• 18:19
  That's
• 18:19
  where
• 18:20
  I
• 18:20
  first
• 18:20
  discovered
• 18:20
  him.
• 18:21
  On
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  top
• 18:21
  floor
• 18:21
  of
• 18:22
  City
• 18:22
  hall
• 18:22
  there
• 18:22
  was
• 18:22
  a
• 18:22
  radio
• 18:23
  station.
• 18:23
  And
• 18:23
  at
• 18:24
  night
• 18:24
  you
• 18:24
  would
• 18:24
  drive
• 18:25
  by
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  see
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  light
• 18:26
  on
• 18:26
  up
• 18:26
  there.
• 18:26
  How
• 18:26
  cool.
• 18:27
  Legendary
• 18:28
  back
• 18:28
  there.
• 18:29
  And
• 18:29
  so
• 18:29
  when
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  decided
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  wanted
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  do
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  radio
• 18:31
  show,
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  just
• 18:31
  copied
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  guy
• 18:32
  that
• 18:32
  I.
• 18:33
  How
• 18:33
  old
• 18:33
  were
• 18:33
  you
• 18:33
  when
• 18:33
  you
• 18:33
  did
• 18:34
  that,
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  radio
• 18:35
  show?
• 18:35
  When
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  was.
• 18:35
  I
• 18:36
  was
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  kid
• 18:36
  when
• 18:37
  I
• 18:37
  discovered
• 18:37
  him
• 18:38
  and
• 18:38
  hung
• 18:39
  out
• 18:39
  with
• 18:39
  him
• 18:39
  and
• 18:39
  everything,
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  don't
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:41
  12,
• 18:41
  13.
• 18:42
  That's
• 18:42
  so
• 18:42
  funny.
• 18:42
  Cause
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  sorted
• 18:43
  out
• 18:44
  we're
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  same
• 18:44
  age.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  was
• 18:45
  in
• 18:46
  Delaware
• 18:46
  at
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  time.
• 18:47
  And
• 18:47
  that's
• 18:47
  where
• 18:47
  I
• 18:48
  got
• 18:48
  turned
• 18:48
  on
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  radio.
• 18:49
  Really.
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  was
• 18:49
  listening
• 18:49
  to
• 18:50
  local
• 18:50
  radio
• 18:50
  and
• 18:50
  our
• 18:51
  station
• 18:51
  was
• 18:52
  all
• 18:52
  Philadelphia.
• 18:52
  It
• 18:53
  was
• 18:53
  Deputy
• 18:53
  Fil
• 18:54
  Dandy
• 18:55
  Don
• 18:55
  Rose
• 18:56
  in
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  top
• 18:57
  10
• 18:57
  days.
• 18:57
  It
• 18:58
  was
• 18:58
  just
• 18:58
  an
• 18:58
  exciting
• 18:59
  time
• 18:59
  for
• 18:59
  radio
• 19:00
  because
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  hits
• 19:01
  would
• 19:01
  come
• 19:01
  out
• 19:01
  and
• 19:01
  they
• 19:01
  were
• 19:02
  great.
• 19:02
  Motown
• 19:03
  and
• 19:03
  then
• 19:04
  Bowie
• 19:04
  kind
• 19:04
  of
• 19:04
  made
• 19:04
  it
• 19:05
  famous
• 19:05
  with
• 19:05
  his
• 19:05
  Philadelphia
• 19:06
  Sound
• 19:07
  fame.
• 19:07
  The
• 19:08
  Funk
• 19:08
  record.
• 19:08
  Yeah,
• 19:09
  yeah,
• 19:09
  yeah.
• 19:09
  You
• 19:09
  know,
• 19:09
  because
• 19:09
  Philadelphia
• 19:10
  does
• 19:10
  have
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  distinct
• 19:11
  sound,
• 19:11
  does
• 19:11
  it
• 19:11
  not?
• 19:11
  Oh,
• 19:12
  completely.
• 19:12
  Yeah.
• 19:13
  Why
• 19:13
  isn't
• 19:13
  it
• 19:13
  better
• 19:14
  known?
• 19:15
  Or
• 19:15
  is
• 19:15
  it.
• 19:16
  I
• 19:16
  think
• 19:17
  it's
• 19:17
  pretty
• 19:17
  well
• 19:17
  known
• 19:17
  among
• 19:18
  soul
• 19:19
  music
• 19:19
  fanatics.
• 19:20
  Because,
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  know,
• 19:21
  Philly
• 19:21
  Soul.
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:22
  Gamble
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  Huff
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  all
• 19:23
  that
• 19:23
  stuff.
• 19:24
  What
• 19:24
  kind
• 19:24
  of
• 19:24
  turned
• 19:24
  you
• 19:25
  on
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  whole
• 19:25
  thing?
• 19:25
  Yeah.
• 19:26
  Before
• 19:26
  they
• 19:26
  were
• 19:26
  big,
• 19:27
  they
• 19:27
  had
• 19:28
  Cowboys
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  Girls
• 19:29
  by
• 19:29
  the
• 19:29
  Intruders
• 19:30
  Expressway
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  your
• 19:30
  heart
• 19:31
  by
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  Soul
• 19:31
  Survivors.
• 19:32
  These
• 19:33
  were
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  tunes
• 19:33
  we
• 19:33
  heard
• 19:34
  constantly
• 19:34
  in
• 19:35
  Philly.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  Philly
• 19:36
  had
• 19:36
  two
• 19:36
  soul
• 19:36
  stations
• 19:37
  that
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  would
• 19:37
  listen
• 19:38
  to
• 19:38
  and
• 19:39
  two
• 19:39
  top
• 19:40
  40
• 19:40
  stations.
• 19:41
  And
• 19:43
  we
• 19:43
  had
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  country
• 19:44
  station,
• 19:44
  too,
• 19:44
  which
• 19:44
  is
• 19:44
  kind
• 19:45
  of
• 19:45
  weird
• 19:45
  for
• 19:45
  Philadelphia.
• 19:46
  It
• 19:46
  was
• 19:47
  wrcp.
• 19:48
  Real
• 19:48
  country
• 19:48
  power.
• 19:51
  So
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  was
• 19:51
  a
• 19:51
  radio
• 19:52
  fanatic.
• 19:52
  I
• 19:52
  would
• 19:52
  stay
• 19:53
  up
• 19:53
  all
• 19:53
  night
• 19:53
  and
• 19:53
  I
• 19:54
  would
• 19:54
  tune
• 19:54
  in
• 19:54
  WLS
• 19:55
  in
• 19:55
  Chicago.
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  could
• 19:56
  pick
• 19:56
  up
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  Grand
• 19:56
  Ole
• 19:56
  Opry.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  then
• 19:58
  I
• 19:58
  got
• 19:58
  a
• 19:58
  hold
• 19:59
  of
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  shortwave
• 19:59
  radio
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  would
• 20:00
  listen
• 20:00
  to
• 20:00
  Radio
• 20:01
  Luxembourg.
• 20:01
  Holy.
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  didn't
• 20:03
  sleep.
• 20:04
  Same
• 20:04
  here.
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  stayed
• 20:05
  up
• 20:05
  all
• 20:05
  night.
• 20:06
  Quito.
• 20:07
  Used
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  listen
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  Quito,
• 20:08
  Ecuador.
• 20:08
  They
• 20:09
  had
• 20:09
  a
• 20:09
  big
• 20:09
  station
• 20:09
  radio.
• 20:10
  Yeah.
• 20:10
  Wow.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:11
  what
• 20:11
  was
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  other
• 20:12
  top
• 20:12
  40
• 20:12
  in?
• 20:12
  It
• 20:12
  was
• 20:13
  FIL
• 20:13
  and
• 20:14
  WIBG.
• 20:15
  IBG.
• 20:15
  Yeah,
• 20:16
  WIBbage.
• 20:16
  But
• 20:17
  we
• 20:17
  could
• 20:17
  get
• 20:17
  ABC
• 20:18
  Radio
• 20:19
  from
• 20:19
  New
• 20:19
  York,
• 20:19
  too.
• 20:19
  I
• 20:20
  used
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  listen
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  cousin
• 20:20
  Bruce
• 20:20
  eto.
• 20:22
  And
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  would
• 20:22
  listen
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  Gene
• 20:23
  shepherd
• 20:23
  coming
• 20:24
  down
• 20:24
  from
• 20:24
  wor.
• 20:24
  That's
• 20:25
  what
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  was
• 20:25
  just
• 20:25
  going
• 20:25
  to
• 20:26
  mention
• 20:26
  when
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  discovered
• 20:27
  him.
• 20:27
  That
• 20:28
  changed
• 20:28
  everything.
• 20:28
  Yeah,
• 20:28
  that.
• 20:29
  That's
• 20:29
  what
• 20:29
  kept
• 20:29
  me
• 20:29
  up.
• 20:30
  Cause
• 20:30
  it
• 20:30
  wasn't
• 20:30
  about
• 20:30
  music,
• 20:31
  just
• 20:31
  music
• 20:31
  anymore.
• 20:32
  It
• 20:32
  was.
• 20:33
  He
• 20:33
  was
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  genius
• 20:35
  storytelling.
• 20:36
  Sounds
• 20:36
  like
• 20:36
  you
• 20:36
  had
• 20:36
  a
• 20:36
  dual
• 20:37
  love
• 20:37
  of
• 20:37
  music
• 20:37
  and
• 20:38
  radio.
• 20:39
  Yeah.
• 20:39
  So
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  eventually
• 20:40
  came
• 20:41
  out
• 20:41
  here
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  Los
• 20:43
  Angeles?
• 20:44
  Why?
• 20:47
  The
• 20:48
  weather,
• 20:48
  for
• 20:48
  one
• 20:49
  thing.
• 20:49
  No,
• 20:50
  I
• 20:50
  came
• 20:50
  out
• 20:50
  in
• 20:51
  1995
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  do
• 20:53
  music
• 20:53
  for
• 20:54
  film
• 20:54
  and
• 20:55
  TV.
• 20:55
  Because
• 20:56
  what
• 20:56
  happened?
• 20:58
  When
• 20:58
  I
• 20:58
  was
• 20:58
  a
• 20:58
  kid,
• 20:59
  I
• 20:59
  decided,
• 20:59
  for
• 21:00
  whatever
• 21:00
  reason,
• 21:00
  that
• 21:00
  I
• 21:01
  wanted
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  be
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  practitioner
• 21:03
  of
• 21:03
  surf
• 21:03
  guitar.
• 21:05
  But
• 21:06
  this
• 21:06
  is
• 21:06
  back
• 21:06
  when
• 21:06
  surf
• 21:07
  guitar
• 21:07
  had.
• 21:08
  It
• 21:08
  was
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  dead
• 21:08
  language.
• 21:09
  But
• 21:09
  Dwayne
• 21:10
  Eddy.
• 21:11
  Yeah,
• 21:11
  Dwayne
• 21:11
  Eddy
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  also
• 21:12
  Dick
• 21:12
  Dale
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  all
• 21:13
  that
• 21:13
  stuff.
• 21:13
  But
• 21:14
  nobody
• 21:14
  won
• 21:14
  it
• 21:14
  in,
• 21:14
  like,
• 21:15
  1970.
• 21:15
  So
• 21:16
  I
• 21:16
  spent
• 21:16
  all
• 21:17
  this
• 21:17
  time
• 21:17
  learning
• 21:18
  how
• 21:18
  to
• 21:18
  play
• 21:18
  surf
• 21:18
  guitar.
• 21:19
  And
• 21:19
  it
• 21:19
  became
• 21:19
  really
• 21:19
  proficient.
• 21:20
  But
• 21:20
  there
• 21:20
  was
• 21:20
  no
• 21:20
  market
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  it
• 21:21
  at
• 21:22
  all.
• 21:22
  You
• 21:22
  know,
• 21:22
  it
• 21:23
  was
• 21:23
  literally
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  dead
• 21:24
  language.
• 21:24
  Hoops.
• 21:25
  Yeah.
• 21:26
  Until
• 21:26
  Quentin
• 21:26
  Tarantino
• 21:27
  put
• 21:27
  out
• 21:28
  Pulp
• 21:28
  Fiction.
• 21:29
  Pulp
• 21:29
  Fiction.
• 21:30
  And
• 21:30
  then
• 21:30
  all
• 21:30
  of
• 21:30
  a
• 21:31
  sudden,
• 21:31
  I
• 21:32
  had
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  coin
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  the
• 21:33
  realm.
• 21:33
  Yes.
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  realized
• 21:35
  if
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  go
• 21:35
  to
• 21:35
  Hollywood
• 21:36
  now,
• 21:36
  this
• 21:37
  is
• 21:37
  my
• 21:37
  only
• 21:37
  chance
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  be
• 21:38
  relevant,
• 21:39
  interesting.
• 21:40
  Because
• 21:40
  I
• 21:40
  know
• 21:40
  how
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  play
• 21:41
  this
• 21:41
  stuff.
• 21:41
  And
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  can
• 21:42
  write
• 21:42
  in
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  style,
• 21:43
  too.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:44
  I
• 21:45
  landed
• 21:45
  here,
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  everything
• 21:46
  happened
• 21:46
  really
• 21:46
  fast.
• 21:47
  Cause
• 21:48
  everybody
• 21:48
  wanted
• 21:49
  that
• 21:50
  edge.
• 21:50
  And
• 21:50
  you
• 21:50
  came
• 21:51
  out
• 21:51
  relatively
• 21:52
  late
• 21:52
  in
• 21:52
  life
• 21:52
  for
• 21:53
  people
• 21:53
  who
• 21:53
  come
• 21:53
  out
• 21:53
  to
• 21:54
  Hollywood
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  make
• 21:54
  it
• 21:54
  right.
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  thought
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  meant
• 21:56
  came
• 21:56
  out.
• 21:57
  Well,
• 21:58
  actually,
• 21:58
  today
• 21:58
  is
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  day,
• 21:59
  ladies
• 21:59
  and
• 21:59
  gentlemen.
• 22:00
  Well,
• 22:00
  we
• 22:00
  have
• 22:00
  15
• 22:00
  more
• 22:01
  minutes.
• 22:01
  Actually,
• 22:02
  one
• 22:02
  of
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  gifts
• 22:03
  for
• 22:03
  the
• 22:04
  pledge
• 22:04
  drive
• 22:04
  is
• 22:04
  a
• 22:05
  date
• 22:05
  with
• 22:05
  me.
• 22:05
  Ooh.
• 22:07
  How
• 22:07
  can
• 22:07
  you
• 22:08
  put
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  price
• 22:08
  on
• 22:08
  that?
• 22:12
  You
• 22:13
  didn't
• 22:13
  come
• 22:13
  out
• 22:13
  in
• 22:13
  la.
• 22:13
  You
• 22:14
  came
• 22:14
  out
• 22:14
  to
• 22:14
  la.
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  just
• 22:15
  did.
• 22:16
  And
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  third
• 22:16
  Rock
• 22:17
  from
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  sun
• 22:18
  had
• 22:18
  that
• 22:19
  sound.
• 22:19
  And
• 22:19
  is
• 22:20
  that
• 22:20
  kind
• 22:20
  of
• 22:20
  how
• 22:20
  connected?
• 22:21
  Yep.
• 22:22
  Wow.
• 22:23
  Interesting.
• 22:23
  Yeah,
• 22:24
  everybody
• 22:24
  wanted
• 22:24
  that
• 22:25
  sound.
• 22:25
  And
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  landed
• 22:26
  in
• 22:26
  town.
• 22:26
  Like,
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  right
• 22:27
  week
• 22:28
  isn't
• 22:29
  sweet.
• 22:29
  Yeah,
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  timing
• 22:30
  was
• 22:30
  amazing.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:31
  you
• 22:31
  came
• 22:31
  out
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  Santa
• 22:32
  Monica.
• 22:32
  Yeah,
• 22:33
  same
• 22:33
  here.
• 22:34
  Boy,
• 22:34
  did
• 22:34
  we
• 22:34
  luck
• 22:35
  out.
• 22:35
  Yeah,
• 22:35
  I
• 22:36
  just
• 22:36
  kept
• 22:36
  driving
• 22:36
  until
• 22:37
  there
• 22:37
  was
• 22:37
  no
• 22:37
  land
• 22:38
  left.
• 22:38
  Yeah,
• 22:39
  right.
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  was
• 22:39
  either
• 22:40
  gonna
• 22:40
  drive
• 22:40
  into
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  ocean
• 22:41
  or
• 22:41
  get
• 22:41
  an
• 22:41
  apartment,
• 22:42
  so
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  got
• 22:43
  an
• 22:43
  apartment.
• 22:44
  You
• 22:44
  scored
• 22:45
  several
• 22:45
  films.
• 22:46
  Psycho
• 22:46
  Beach
• 22:46
  Party.
• 22:47
  What
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  heck's
• 22:48
  that
• 22:48
  about?
• 22:48
  Oh,
• 22:49
  it's
• 22:49
  a.
• 22:49
  It's
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  great
• 22:50
  film.
• 22:50
  It's
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  parody
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  Frankie
• 22:52
  and
• 22:52
  Annette
• 22:53
  films.
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  like
• 22:53
  that
• 22:54
  film.
• 22:54
  Yeah.
• 22:54
  Oh,
• 22:54
  wow.
• 22:55
  Okay.
• 22:55
  Are
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  in
• 22:56
  it?
• 22:56
  Are
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  in
• 22:56
  that
• 22:57
  movie?
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  wouldn't
• 22:59
  be
• 22:59
  surprised.
• 23:00
  Not
• 23:00
  that
• 23:01
  one.
• 23:02
  And
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  independent?
• 23:04
  Yep.
• 23:04
  Scorpion
• 23:05
  Springs
• 23:06
  featuring
• 23:07
  Phil
• 23:07
  Proctor.
• 23:08
  Phil
• 23:08
  Proctor
• 23:09
  Peterson.
• 23:10
  Wow.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:10
  then
• 23:10
  you
• 23:11
  got
• 23:11
  into
• 23:11
  producing
• 23:12
  as
• 23:12
  well.
• 23:12
  Lost
• 23:13
  Straitjackets.
• 23:14
  How
• 23:14
  did
• 23:14
  that
• 23:15
  happen?
• 23:15
  It
• 23:16
  sounds
• 23:16
  like
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  just
• 23:16
  came
• 23:16
  out
• 23:16
  here
• 23:17
  and
• 23:17
  you
• 23:17
  just
• 23:17
  met
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  lot
• 23:17
  of
• 23:18
  people.
• 23:18
  Well,
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  was
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  record
• 23:19
  producer
• 23:20
  before
• 23:20
  I
• 23:20
  came
• 23:20
  here.
• 23:21
  That
• 23:21
  was
• 23:21
  what
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  was
• 23:22
  doing,
• 23:22
  kind
• 23:23
  of
• 23:23
  what
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  was
• 23:23
  known
• 23:23
  for.
• 23:24
  And
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  was
• 23:25
  one
• 23:25
  of
• 23:25
  those
• 23:25
  things
• 23:25
  where
• 23:25
  I
• 23:26
  just
• 23:26
  started
• 23:26
  telling
• 23:26
  people
• 23:26
  that
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  was
• 23:27
  a
• 23:27
  record
• 23:27
  producer
• 23:28
  because
• 23:28
  no
• 23:28
  one
• 23:28
  could
• 23:29
  define
• 23:29
  what
• 23:29
  the
• 23:30
  job
• 23:30
  is.
• 23:30
  Yeah,
• 23:31
  yeah,
• 23:31
  yeah.
• 23:31
  You
• 23:31
  know,
• 23:31
  it's
• 23:31
  like
• 23:31
  being
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  film
• 23:32
  producer.
• 23:33
  You
• 23:33
  can
• 23:33
  get
• 23:33
  a
• 23:34
  card
• 23:34
  printed
• 23:34
  up
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  hand
• 23:35
  it
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  somebody
• 23:35
  and
• 23:36
  enough
• 23:37
  people
• 23:37
  will
• 23:37
  believe
• 23:37
  you
• 23:37
  and
• 23:38
  hire
• 23:38
  you.
• 23:40
  It
• 23:41
  worked
• 23:41
  for
• 23:41
  abstract
• 23:41
  Hollywood
• 23:42
  personifies
• 23:43
  reinvention.
• 23:44
  It
• 23:44
  does.
• 23:45
  You
• 23:45
  can
• 23:45
  come
• 23:45
  out
• 23:45
  and
• 23:45
  do
• 23:45
  whatever
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  think
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  can
• 23:47
  do.
• 23:47
  Yeah,
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  came
• 23:48
  out.
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  became
• 23:48
  a
• 23:49
  film
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  TV
• 23:50
  composer
• 23:51
  here.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  wasn't.
• 23:52
  No
• 23:53
  one
• 23:53
  called
• 23:53
  me
• 23:53
  that
• 23:53
  before
• 23:54
  I
• 23:54
  came
• 23:54
  here.
• 23:54
  Were
• 23:55
  you
• 23:55
  working
• 23:55
  in
• 23:55
  Philly
• 23:55
  or.
• 23:56
  Yeah.
• 23:56
  So
• 23:57
  you.
• 23:57
  Did
• 23:57
  you
• 23:57
  ever
• 23:57
  spend
• 23:57
  time
• 23:57
  in
• 23:58
  New
• 23:58
  York?
• 23:58
  Oh,
• 23:58
  yeah,
• 23:59
  a
• 23:59
  lot
• 23:59
  of
• 23:59
  time.
• 23:59
  So
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  were
• 23:59
  working
• 24:00
  New
• 24:00
  York
• 24:00
  and
• 24:00
  then
• 24:01
  were
• 24:01
  your
• 24:01
  folks
• 24:01
  musically
• 24:02
  inclined?
• 24:03
  No,
• 24:03
  no.
• 24:04
  Really?
• 24:04
  No,
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  discovered
• 24:06
  it
• 24:06
  all
• 24:06
  on
• 24:06
  my
• 24:06
  own.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:07
  are
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  a
• 24:07
  single
• 24:07
  kid
• 24:08
  or.
• 24:09
  Two
• 24:09
  brothers.
• 24:10
  Two
• 24:10
  older
• 24:10
  brothers.
• 24:10
  Are
• 24:11
  they
• 24:11
  into
• 24:11
  music
• 24:11
  too?
• 24:12
  Into
• 24:12
  it,
• 24:12
  but
• 24:13
  didn't
• 24:13
  play.
• 24:14
  Huh.
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  have
• 24:14
  no
• 24:14
  idea
• 24:15
  where
• 24:15
  it
• 24:15
  came
• 24:15
  from.
• 24:16
  Wow.
• 24:17
  Radio.
• 24:18
  Well,
• 24:18
  yeah,
• 24:18
  definitely
• 24:19
  yeah,
• 24:19
  definitely.
• 24:20
  No,
• 24:20
  but
• 24:20
  the
• 24:21
  talent,
• 24:21
  that's
• 24:22
  from
• 24:23
  God.
• 24:23
  So
• 24:24
  you.
• 24:24
  You
• 24:24
  still
• 24:24
  playing
• 24:25
  in
• 24:25
  your.
• 24:25
  And
• 24:25
  you
• 24:26
  do
• 24:26
  tour
• 24:26
  occasionally?
• 24:27
  I
• 24:28
  do.
• 24:28
  I'm
• 24:28
  popular
• 24:29
  in
• 24:29
  Spain.
• 24:30
  Ah.
• 24:30
  Which
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  a
• 24:31
  great
• 24:31
  place
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  be
• 24:32
  popular
• 24:33
  all
• 24:33
  through.
• 24:34
  Throughout
• 24:34
  this
• 24:34
  country
• 24:35
  or
• 24:35
  region.
• 24:36
  Yeah,
• 24:36
  so
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  go
• 24:37
  over
• 24:37
  there
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  play
• 24:38
  France.
• 24:39
  My
• 24:39
  records
• 24:40
  did
• 24:40
  really
• 24:40
  well
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  Europe
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  80s.
• 24:42
  So
• 24:42
  you're
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  Bad
• 24:43
  Bunny
• 24:43
  of
• 24:44
  Spain.
• 24:45
  Yes,
• 24:45
  that's
• 24:46
  true.
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  sing
• 24:46
  in
• 24:46
  English.
• 24:47
  Right.
• 24:47
  Yeah,
• 24:48
  not
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  problem
• 24:49
  there.
• 24:49
  You're
• 24:50
  probably
• 24:50
  not
• 24:50
  being
• 24:50
  attacked
• 24:50
  by
• 24:51
  rednecks.
• 24:52
  No,
• 24:54
  I
• 24:55
  never
• 24:55
  saw
• 24:55
  one
• 24:55
  redneck
• 24:56
  in
• 24:56
  Spain.
• 24:56
  There's
• 24:57
  a
• 24:57
  lot
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  hot
• 24:57
  sun
• 24:58
  there,
• 24:58
  though,
• 24:58
  I
• 24:59
  gotta
• 24:59
  tell
• 24:59
  you.
• 25:01
  So
• 25:02
  you're
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  Jerry
• 25:02
  Lewis
• 25:03
  of.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:05
  have
• 25:05
  a
• 25:05
  song
• 25:05
  called
• 25:05
  Jerry
• 25:06
  Lewis
• 25:06
  in
• 25:06
  France.
• 25:07
  You
• 25:07
  do?
• 25:07
  Which
• 25:08
  is
• 25:08
  about
• 25:08
  being
• 25:08
  appreciated.
• 25:09
  It's
• 25:09
  a
• 25:09
  love
• 25:09
  song.
• 25:10
  Like,
• 25:10
  you
• 25:10
  can't
• 25:11
  be
• 25:11
  more
• 25:11
  appreciated
• 25:11
  than
• 25:12
  Jerry
• 25:12
  Lewis
• 25:13
  was
• 25:13
  in
• 25:13
  France.
• 25:14
  You
• 25:14
  know,
• 25:15
  he
• 25:15
  was
• 25:15
  a
• 25:15
  genius
• 25:16
  there.
• 25:16
  Although
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  heard
• 25:17
  a
• 25:17
  funny
• 25:18
  story
• 25:18
  that
• 25:18
  when
• 25:18
  he
• 25:19
  was
• 25:19
  invited
• 25:19
  over
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  get
• 25:20
  his
• 25:21
  Les
• 25:21
  Genneur,
• 25:22
  his
• 25:23
  special
• 25:25
  national
• 25:25
  award
• 25:26
  for
• 25:26
  being
• 25:26
  a
• 25:27
  cultural
• 25:27
  favorite,
• 25:28
  when
• 25:28
  he
• 25:29
  got
• 25:29
  up
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  speak,
• 25:30
  people
• 25:31
  were
• 25:31
  disappointed
• 25:32
  because
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  voice
• 25:33
  that
• 25:34
  came
• 25:34
  out
• 25:34
  of
• 25:34
  him
• 25:35
  was
• 25:35
  not
• 25:35
  the
• 25:36
  voice
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  the
• 25:37
  overdubbed.
• 25:38
  Oh,
• 25:38
  yeah,
• 25:38
  yeah.
• 25:39
  Jerry
• 25:40
  Lewis,
• 25:40
  huh?
• 25:41
  The
• 25:41
  French
• 25:42
  guy
• 25:42
  who
• 25:42
  did
• 25:42
  it,
• 25:42
  you
• 25:43
  know.
• 25:44
  You
• 25:44
  got
• 25:44
  it.
• 25:45
  Yeah,
• 25:45
  yeah.
• 25:46
  That's
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  story
• 25:46
  I
• 25:46
  heard
• 25:47
  that
• 25:47
  didn't
• 25:47
  make
• 25:47
  sense.
• 25:47
  I
• 25:48
  thought
• 25:48
  it
• 25:48
  was
• 25:48
  always
• 25:48
  incongruous,
• 25:49
  because
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  would.
• 25:50
  When
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  was
• 25:50
  a
• 25:50
  kid,
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  read
• 25:51
  his
• 25:51
  book
• 25:51
  about
• 25:51
  filmmaking.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  love
• 25:52
  that
• 25:53
  book.
• 25:53
  Yeah,
• 25:53
  I
• 25:54
  love
• 25:54
  that
• 25:54
  book.
• 25:54
  There's
• 25:55
  one
• 25:55
  moment
• 25:55
  where
• 25:55
  he
• 25:55
  says,
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  love
• 25:57
  35
• 25:58
  millimeter
• 25:58
  film
• 25:58
  so
• 25:59
  much.
• 25:59
  When
• 26:00
  no
• 26:00
  one's
• 26:00
  looking,
• 26:00
  I
• 26:01
  lick
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  emotion.
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  love
• 26:04
  that
• 26:04
  book.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:05
  I
• 26:06
  have
• 26:06
  a
• 26:06
  book
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  he
• 26:07
  signed
• 26:08
  over
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  me
• 26:08
  because
• 26:08
  I
• 26:08
  got
• 26:09
  to
• 26:09
  work
• 26:09
  with
• 26:09
  him
• 26:09
  a
• 26:09
  couple
• 26:09
  of
• 26:10
  times,
• 26:10
  which
• 26:11
  is
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  French
• 26:11
  book,
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  study
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  all
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  his
• 26:14
  films
• 26:15
  by,
• 26:15
  you
• 26:15
  know,
• 26:15
  a
• 26:16
  great
• 26:16
  French
• 26:16
  critic
• 26:17
  and
• 26:17
  everything.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:17
  it's.
• 26:17
  That's
• 26:18
  why.
• 26:18
  Why
• 26:19
  Jerry
• 26:19
  Lewis
• 26:19
  and
• 26:20
  France?
• 26:21
  Well,
• 26:21
  they
• 26:22
  love,
• 26:22
  you
• 26:22
  know,
• 26:22
  Chaplin,
• 26:23
  they
• 26:23
  love
• 26:23
  Pratt
• 26:23
  Falls.
• 26:24
  Physical
• 26:24
  comedy.
• 26:25
  It's
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  art
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  it,
• 26:26
  too.
• 26:26
  Jacques.
• 26:27
  Jacques.
• 26:27
  Tati.
• 26:28
  Tati.
• 26:29
  Another
• 26:29
  person.
• 26:29
  I
• 26:29
  had
• 26:30
  that.
• 26:30
  And
• 26:30
  I
• 26:30
  also
• 26:30
  think,
• 26:31
  you
• 26:31
  know,
• 26:31
  maybe
• 26:31
  they
• 26:32
  get
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  kick
• 26:32
  out
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  thinking
• 26:33
  all
• 26:33
  Americans
• 26:33
  are
• 26:34
  idiots,
• 26:34
  too.
• 26:35
  I
• 26:35
  have
• 26:35
  something
• 26:35
  to
• 26:36
  say
• 26:36
  about
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  Fireside
• 26:37
  Theater.
• 26:37
  That
• 26:37
  first
• 26:38
  album.
• 26:38
  Yeah.
• 26:39
  Waiting
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  Electrician.
• 26:40
  Yep.
• 26:41
  That
• 26:41
  first
• 26:42
  track
• 26:42
  on
• 26:42
  there
• 26:42
  explains
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  founding
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  America
• 26:44
  better
• 26:45
  than
• 26:45
  any
• 26:45
  history
• 26:46
  book.
• 26:46
  God
• 26:47
  bless.
• 26:47
  Vespucci
• 26:48
  Lamb.
• 26:49
  It
• 26:49
  is
• 26:50
  so
• 26:50
  great.
• 26:50
  Oh,
• 26:51
  thanks.
• 26:51
  It
• 26:51
  is
• 26:51
  so
• 26:52
  great.
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  loved
• 26:53
  it
• 26:53
  then
• 26:53
  and
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  listened
• 26:54
  to
• 26:54
  it
• 26:54
  again
• 26:54
  again
• 26:54
  now
• 26:55
  before
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  came
• 26:55
  over.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  was
• 26:56
  like,
• 26:56
  it
• 26:56
  still
• 26:56
  holds.
• 26:57
  That
• 26:57
  is
• 26:57
  really,
• 26:58
  really
• 26:58
  everything
• 26:58
  you
• 26:59
  need
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  know
• 27:00
  about
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  founding
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  west
• 27:02
  is
• 27:03
  in
• 27:03
  that
• 27:03
  first
• 27:03
  track,
• 27:03
  civilization.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  know,
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  music
• 27:07
  that
• 27:08
  was
• 27:08
  supplied
• 27:08
  on
• 27:08
  that
• 27:09
  album
• 27:09
  through
• 27:10
  Jimmy
• 27:10
  Gwercio
• 27:11
  was
• 27:12
  the
• 27:12
  Wrecking
• 27:13
  Crew
• 27:14
  and
• 27:14
  Glenn
• 27:15
  Campbell
• 27:15
  plays
• 27:15
  on
• 27:16
  that
• 27:16
  album.
• 27:16
  I
• 27:16
  was
• 27:17
  wondering
• 27:17
  about
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  because
• 27:17
  the
• 27:18
  music
• 27:18
  is
• 27:18
  really
• 27:18
  good.
• 27:19
  Yeah,
• 27:20
  they
• 27:20
  do.
• 27:20
  We.
• 27:20
  We
• 27:20
  walked
• 27:21
  into
• 27:21
  the
• 27:21
  studio
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  there's
• 27:22
  this
• 27:22
  band
• 27:23
  ready
• 27:24
  to.
• 27:24
  To
• 27:24
  do
• 27:25
  our
• 27:25
  stuff.
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  mean,
• 27:26
  it
• 27:26
  was.
• 27:26
  Oh,
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  tell
• 27:27
  you.
• 27:27
  You're
• 27:28
  listening
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  Phil
• 27:28
  and
• 27:28
  Ted's
• 27:29
  Sexy
• 27:29
  Boomer
• 27:29
  show.
• 27:30
  He's
• 27:30
  Phil
• 27:30
  Proctor.
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  am.
• 27:32
  And
• 27:32
  I'm
• 27:32
  Ted
• 27:32
  Bonnitt.
• 27:33
  And
• 27:33
  our
• 27:33
  guest
• 27:33
  is
• 27:34
  Ben
• 27:34
  Vaughn.
• 27:34
  And
• 27:35
  that's
• 27:35
  true
• 27:35
  too.
• 27:36
  You
• 27:36
  do
• 27:36
  a
• 27:36
  podcast
• 27:37
  as
• 27:37
  well?
• 27:37
  I
• 27:38
  do.
• 27:38
  What's
• 27:38
  that
• 27:38
  about?
• 27:39
  It's
• 27:39
  called
• 27:39
  Straight
• 27:40
  from
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  Hat.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:41
  my
• 27:41
  co
• 27:41
  host
• 27:42
  is
• 27:42
  Laura
• 27:42
  Pocadello.
• 27:43
  She
• 27:43
  runs
• 27:44
  Sun
• 27:44
  Records
• 27:44
  down
• 27:45
  in
• 27:45
  Nashville.
• 27:45
  Yeah.
• 27:46
  And
• 27:47
  she
• 27:48
  is
• 27:48
  a
• 27:49
  younger
• 27:49
  person,
• 27:50
  but
• 27:50
  she
• 27:50
  loves
• 27:51
  older
• 27:51
  music
• 27:52
  and
• 27:52
  her
• 27:52
  record
• 27:52
  collection
• 27:53
  is
• 27:53
  immense.
• 27:55
  And
• 27:55
  I've
• 27:55
  worked
• 27:55
  with
• 27:56
  a
• 27:56
  lot
• 27:56
  of
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  people
• 27:56
  in
• 27:57
  her
• 27:57
  record
• 27:57
  collection.
• 27:57
  We
• 27:58
  worked
• 27:58
  on
• 27:58
  a
• 27:59
  project
• 27:59
  together
• 27:59
  and
• 28:00
  we
• 28:00
  got
• 28:00
  to
• 28:00
  talking
• 28:00
  and
• 28:01
  we
• 28:01
  both
• 28:01
  realized
• 28:02
  pretty
• 28:02
  quickly
• 28:02
  that
• 28:03
  we
• 28:03
  were
• 28:03
  both
• 28:03
  Sonny
• 28:04
  Bono
• 28:04
  fanatics
• 28:05
  and
• 28:06
  not
• 28:06
  ironic
• 28:08
  Sonny
• 28:08
  Bono
• 28:09
  fanatics.
• 28:09
  We
• 28:09
  really,
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  know,
• 28:11
  his
• 28:11
  career,
• 28:11
  even
• 28:12
  before
• 28:12
  Sonny
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  Schar,
• 28:13
  he
• 28:13
  had
• 28:13
  at
• 28:13
  least
• 28:13
  10
• 28:13
  years
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  working
• 28:14
  with
• 28:14
  Phil
• 28:15
  Spector
• 28:16
  and
• 28:16
  producing
• 28:17
  for
• 28:17
  specialty
• 28:17
  records,
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  lot
• 28:18
  of
• 28:18
  R
• 28:18
  and
• 28:18
  B
• 28:18
  stuff.
• 28:19
  You
• 28:19
  know,
• 28:19
  he
• 28:20
  career
• 28:20
  before
• 28:20
  that.
• 28:21
  He
• 28:21
  lived
• 28:21
  on
• 28:21
  my
• 28:21
  street,
• 28:22
  by
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  way.
• 28:22
  Did
• 28:23
  he
• 28:23
  really?
• 28:23
  Yes,
• 28:24
  really.
• 28:24
  And
• 28:24
  Margaret,
• 28:25
  Elvis
• 28:26
  has
• 28:26
  been
• 28:26
  on
• 28:26
  our
• 28:27
  street
• 28:28
  and.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:28
  he
• 28:28
  lived
• 28:29
  up
• 28:29
  at
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  top
• 28:29
  of
• 28:30
  our
• 28:30
  street
• 28:30
  in
• 28:30
  Benedict
• 28:31
  Canyon.
• 28:31
  When
• 28:32
  I
• 28:32
  met
• 28:32
  Ben
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  said,
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  should
• 28:33
  come
• 28:34
  on
• 28:34
  our
• 28:34
  radio
• 28:34
  show,
• 28:34
  he
• 28:34
  said,
• 28:35
  yeah,
• 28:35
  because
• 28:35
  I'd
• 28:35
  like
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  talk
• 28:36
  about
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  Sonny
• 28:37
  Bono
• 28:37
  murder
• 28:37
  mystery.
• 28:38
  Ah,
• 28:40
  what?
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  said,
• 28:43
  really?
• 28:44
  He
• 28:44
  goes,
• 28:44
  yeah,
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  know
• 28:44
  everything
• 28:45
  about
• 28:45
  Sonny
• 28:45
  Bono.
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  said,
• 28:46
  murder
• 28:47
  mystery.
• 28:47
  Oh,
• 28:47
  do
• 28:47
  tell.
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  can't
• 28:49
  really
• 28:49
  say
• 28:49
  too
• 28:50
  much
• 28:50
  other
• 28:50
  than
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  going.
• 28:55
  The
• 28:55
  going
• 28:55
  information
• 28:56
  was
• 28:56
  that
• 28:56
  he
• 28:57
  was
• 28:57
  addicted
• 28:57
  to
• 28:57
  painkillers
• 28:58
  and
• 28:59
  was
• 28:59
  a
• 29:00
  wild
• 29:00
  skier
• 29:00
  because
• 29:01
  of
• 29:01
  it.
• 29:01
  And
• 29:01
  that's
• 29:01
  what
• 29:02
  Mary
• 29:02
  Bono
• 29:02
  said.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:03
  even
• 29:03
  Scher
• 29:03
  chimed
• 29:04
  in
• 29:04
  and
• 29:04
  said,
• 29:04
  oh,
• 29:04
  yeah.
• 29:05
  But
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  toxicology
• 29:06
  report
• 29:06
  showed
• 29:07
  no
• 29:07
  drugs.
• 29:08
  So
• 29:08
  you
• 29:09
  think
• 29:09
  a
• 29:09
  tree
• 29:09
  reached
• 29:10
  out
• 29:10
  and
• 29:10
  killed
• 29:10
  him?
• 29:11
  You
• 29:11
  know,
• 29:11
  he
• 29:12
  was
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  congressman.
• 29:13
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  And
• 29:14
  he
• 29:14
  might
• 29:14
  have
• 29:14
  been
• 29:14
  uncovering
• 29:15
  something
• 29:15
  that
• 29:16
  didn't,
• 29:16
  you
• 29:16
  know,
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  people
• 29:17
  didn't
• 29:17
  want
• 29:17
  uncovered.
• 29:18
  Huh.
• 29:19
  So
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  secret
• 29:21
  branch
• 29:22
  of
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  government
• 29:23
  got
• 29:23
  him.
• 29:24
  Now
• 29:24
  he's
• 29:24
  in
• 29:24
  the
• 29:25
  trunk.
• 29:27
  Where's
• 29:28
  my
• 29:28
  rim
• 29:28
  shot?
• 29:29
  Premise
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  podcast
• 29:31
  is
• 29:32
  she
• 29:32
  pulls
• 29:32
  a
• 29:32
  name
• 29:33
  out
• 29:33
  of
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  hat
• 29:33
  and
• 29:34
  your
• 29:34
  challenge
• 29:34
  is
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  tell
• 29:35
  us.
• 29:35
  Yeah.
• 29:35
  With
• 29:36
  no
• 29:36
  preparation.
• 29:36
  Kind
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  like
• 29:37
  what
• 29:37
  you
• 29:37
  guys?
• 29:37
  Any
• 29:38
  kind
• 29:38
  of
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  name,
• 29:38
  you
• 29:39
  mean?
• 29:40
  Well,
• 29:40
  she
• 29:40
  Pulled
• 29:40
  out,
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  know,
• 29:42
  Lynyrd
• 29:42
  Skynyrd.
• 29:43
  And
• 29:43
  it
• 29:43
  turns
• 29:43
  out
• 29:43
  I,
• 29:43
  you
• 29:44
  know,
• 29:44
  I
• 29:44
  played
• 29:44
  harmonica
• 29:45
  with
• 29:45
  them
• 29:45
  on
• 29:45
  stage
• 29:45
  in
• 29:46
  front
• 29:46
  of
• 29:46
  20,000
• 29:46
  people.
• 29:47
  Really?
• 29:48
  Wow.
• 29:48
  How
• 29:48
  was
• 29:48
  that?
• 29:49
  It
• 29:49
  was
• 29:50
  weird.
• 29:51
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  Was
• 29:51
  it?
• 29:52
  It
• 29:52
  was
• 29:52
  like
• 29:52
  being
• 29:52
  in
• 29:52
  a
• 29:52
  movie.
• 29:53
  You
• 29:53
  know,
• 29:53
  when
• 29:53
  you're
• 29:53
  on
• 29:53
  a
• 29:54
  stage
• 29:55
  that.
• 29:55
  With
• 29:56
  an
• 29:56
  audience
• 29:56
  that
• 29:56
  large.
• 29:57
  What
• 29:57
  was
• 29:57
  that?
• 29:57
  What
• 29:57
  was
• 29:57
  that?
• 29:58
  That
• 29:58
  was
• 29:58
  our
• 29:58
  audience.
• 29:59
  Are
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  aliens
• 29:59
  here?
• 30:01
  Okay.
• 30:01
  So
• 30:02
  it
• 30:02
  was
• 30:02
  Leonard
• 30:02
  Skynyrd.
• 30:03
  And
• 30:03
  she
• 30:03
  also
• 30:04
  pulled
• 30:04
  out.
• 30:04
  Well,
• 30:05
  Sonny
• 30:05
  Bono,
• 30:06
  you
• 30:06
  know,
• 30:06
  shows
• 30:06
  up,
• 30:07
  but
• 30:07
  she
• 30:07
  wrote
• 30:07
  down
• 30:08
  all
• 30:08
  these
• 30:08
  names.
• 30:08
  And
• 30:09
  it's
• 30:09
  really
• 30:11
  like.
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  threw
• 30:12
  some
• 30:12
  names
• 30:12
  in,
• 30:12
  too,
• 30:13
  but
• 30:13
  we
• 30:13
  don't
• 30:14
  know
• 30:14
  what's
• 30:14
  coming
• 30:14
  out.
• 30:14
  Yeah,
• 30:15
  that's
• 30:15
  cool.
• 30:15
  And
• 30:16
  then
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  just.
• 30:17
  With.
• 30:17
  No,
• 30:18
  I'm.
• 30:19
  Pull
• 30:19
  a
• 30:19
  name
• 30:19
  out.
• 30:20
  Okay.
• 30:20
  Frank
• 30:21
  Zappa.
• 30:21
  Frank
• 30:22
  Zappa.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:23
  met
• 30:23
  him
• 30:23
  in
• 30:23
  1970.
• 30:25
  Mother's
• 30:25
  Day.
• 30:26
  Oh,
• 30:26
  perfect.
• 30:27
  Perfect.
• 30:28
  They
• 30:28
  did
• 30:28
  a
• 30:28
  Mother's
• 30:29
  Day
• 30:29
  concert
• 30:29
  in
• 30:30
  Philadelphia.
• 30:30
  And
• 30:30
  a
• 30:31
  friend
• 30:31
  of
• 30:31
  mine,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:32
  loved
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  Rubin
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  jets
• 30:33
  out.
• 30:33
  Because
• 30:33
  I
• 30:33
  love
• 30:34
  doo
• 30:34
  wop.
• 30:35
  That
• 30:35
  record
• 30:35
  was
• 30:35
  so
• 30:36
  good,
• 30:36
  and
• 30:37
  it
• 30:37
  was
• 30:37
  my
• 30:37
  favorite
• 30:37
  Mothers
• 30:38
  album.
• 30:39
  I
• 30:39
  maybe
• 30:39
  didn't
• 30:40
  like
• 30:40
  the
• 30:40
  Mothers
• 30:40
  as
• 30:40
  much
• 30:41
  as
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  liked
• 30:41
  Ruben
• 30:41
  and
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  Jets.
• 30:43
  So
• 30:43
  we
• 30:43
  went
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  see
• 30:44
  Frank
• 30:44
  Zappa.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:44
  afterwards,
• 30:45
  my
• 30:45
  friend
• 30:45
  said,
• 30:45
  we're
• 30:46
  gonna
• 30:46
  hang
• 30:46
  by
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  stage
• 30:46
  door
• 30:47
  and
• 30:47
  we're
• 30:47
  gonna
• 30:47
  meet
• 30:47
  him.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:48
  I
• 30:49
  was
• 30:49
  like,
• 30:50
  we're
• 30:50
  never
• 30:50
  gonna
• 30:50
  meet
• 30:51
  him.
• 30:51
  Yeah.
• 30:51
  But
• 30:51
  we
• 30:52
  hung
• 30:52
  out.
• 30:52
  And
• 30:52
  he
• 30:52
  said,
• 30:52
  don't
• 30:53
  worry,
• 30:53
  I'll
• 30:53
  do
• 30:53
  all
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  talking.
• 30:54
  And
• 30:54
  I
• 30:54
  said,
• 30:54
  okay.
• 30:55
  So
• 30:55
  we're
• 30:55
  waiting,
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  all
• 30:56
  of
• 30:56
  a
• 30:56
  sudden,
• 30:56
  Frank
• 30:56
  comes
• 30:56
  out.
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  don't
• 30:57
  know
• 30:57
  if
• 30:57
  you've
• 30:58
  probably
• 30:58
  met
• 30:58
  Frank
• 30:58
  Zappa.
• 31:00
  Striking
• 31:00
  man.
• 31:01
  Like,
• 31:01
  just
• 31:01
  his
• 31:02
  presence
• 31:02
  is,
• 31:03
  like,
• 31:03
  tall.
• 31:04
  Something's
• 31:05
  going
• 31:05
  on.
• 31:05
  Very
• 31:05
  commanding
• 31:06
  and
• 31:06
  almost
• 31:06
  like
• 31:07
  a
• 31:07
  predator.
• 31:07
  Yes.
• 31:08
  Very
• 31:08
  intense
• 31:09
  stare.
• 31:09
  Very
• 31:10
  intense
• 31:10
  person.
• 31:11
  And
• 31:11
  my
• 31:11
  friend
• 31:12
  all
• 31:12
  of
• 31:12
  a
• 31:12
  sudden
• 31:12
  couldn't
• 31:12
  talk,
• 31:13
  so
• 31:13
  I
• 31:13
  had
• 31:13
  to
• 31:13
  do
• 31:13
  all
• 31:13
  the
• 31:14
  talking.
• 31:15
  I
• 31:15
  told
• 31:15
  him
• 31:15
  how
• 31:15
  much
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  loved
• 31:16
  Ruben
• 31:16
  and
• 31:16
  the
• 31:16
  jets
• 31:17
  and
• 31:17
  how
• 31:17
  much
• 31:17
  I
• 31:17
  love
• 31:17
  doo
• 31:18
  Wop.
• 31:18
  And
• 31:18
  then
• 31:18
  he
• 31:18
  asked
• 31:19
  me
• 31:19
  if
• 31:19
  there's
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  record
• 31:20
  store
• 31:20
  in
• 31:20
  Philadelphia
• 31:21
  where
• 31:21
  he
• 31:21
  could
• 31:21
  buy
• 31:21
  doo
• 31:21
  wop
• 31:22
  records.
• 31:22
  So
• 31:22
  I
• 31:22
  directed
• 31:23
  him.
• 31:24
  So
• 31:24
  we
• 31:24
  were.
• 31:24
  It
• 31:25
  was
• 31:25
  great
• 31:25
  for
• 31:25
  making.
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  was
• 31:26
  like
• 31:27
  15
• 31:27
  years
• 31:27
  old.
• 31:28
  Oh,
• 31:28
  wow.
• 31:29
  And
• 31:29
  everybody
• 31:30
  told
• 31:30
  me
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  was
• 31:30
  too
• 31:30
  weird.
• 31:31
  And
• 31:31
  then
• 31:31
  I
• 31:32
  met
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  weirdest
• 31:32
  guy,
• 31:33
  and
• 31:34
  he
• 31:34
  approved
• 31:35
  of
• 31:35
  me.
• 31:36
  That's
• 31:36
  right.
• 31:37
  The
• 31:37
  affirmation
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  needed
• 31:38
  at
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  moment
• 31:39
  was
• 31:39
  to
• 31:39
  have
• 31:39
  someone
• 31:40
  like
• 31:40
  Frank
• 31:40
  Zappa
• 31:41
  put
• 31:41
  his
• 31:41
  hand
• 31:42
  anoint
• 31:42
  me.
• 31:42
  I
• 31:43
  had
• 31:43
  five
• 31:43
  years
• 31:43
  in
• 31:43
  a
• 31:43
  row,
• 31:44
  front
• 31:44
  row,
• 31:44
  watching
• 31:45
  him
• 31:45
  do
• 31:45
  his
• 31:45
  Halloween
• 31:45
  show
• 31:46
  at
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  Academy
• 31:46
  in
• 31:46
  New
• 31:47
  York.
• 31:47
  Really?
• 31:48
  And
• 31:48
  then
• 31:48
  Baby
• 31:49
  Snakes
• 31:49
  was
• 31:49
  premiering
• 31:50
  his
• 31:50
  movie
• 31:50
  in
• 31:50
  Times
• 31:51
  Square.
• 31:51
  And
• 31:51
  our
• 31:51
  radio
• 31:52
  station
• 31:52
  was
• 31:53
  Promoting
• 31:53
  it.
• 31:54
  So
• 31:54
  unfortunately,
• 31:56
  my
• 31:56
  friend
• 31:56
  who
• 31:56
  ran
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  station
• 31:57
  made
• 31:58
  me
• 31:58
  dress
• 31:58
  up
• 31:58
  in
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  hideous
• 31:59
  superhero.
• 32:00
  Oh,
• 32:00
  is
• 32:00
  that
• 32:00
  when
• 32:00
  that
• 32:00
  happened?
• 32:01
  Yeah,
• 32:01
  Eve's
• 32:02
  costume.
• 32:02
  The
• 32:02
  guy
• 32:02
  who
• 32:03
  made
• 32:03
  Christopher
• 32:03
  Reeves
• 32:04
  outfit
• 32:04
  made
• 32:05
  into
• 32:05
  my
• 32:05
  body.
• 32:06
  And
• 32:06
  they
• 32:06
  made
• 32:07
  me
• 32:07
  put
• 32:07
  on
• 32:07
  this
• 32:07
  paper
• 32:08
  mache
• 32:08
  oversized
• 32:09
  head
• 32:10
  which
• 32:10
  looked
• 32:11
  like
• 32:11
  doubly
• 32:11
  do
• 32:11
  right
• 32:11
  on
• 32:12
  acid.
• 32:12
  And
• 32:12
  it
• 32:12
  would
• 32:12
  scare
• 32:13
  children,
• 32:13
  make
• 32:13
  them,
• 32:13
  you
• 32:14
  know,
• 32:14
  cry.
• 32:14
  But
• 32:15
  at
• 32:15
  least
• 32:15
  I
• 32:16
  didn't
• 32:16
  know
• 32:16
  one
• 32:16
  had
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  see
• 32:16
  my
• 32:17
  face
• 32:17
  in
• 32:17
  this
• 32:17
  outfit.
• 32:18
  So
• 32:18
  as
• 32:18
  soon
• 32:19
  as
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  got
• 32:19
  to
• 32:20
  the
• 32:20
  theater,
• 32:20
  they
• 32:20
  wanted
• 32:20
  me
• 32:20
  to
• 32:21
  do
• 32:21
  a
• 32:21
  meet
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  greet
• 32:21
  on
• 32:21
  the
• 32:21
  red
• 32:22
  carpet.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  hated
• 32:23
  it.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:24
  having
• 32:24
  worked
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  radio
• 32:24
  movie
• 32:25
  theaters,
• 32:25
  I
• 32:25
  knew
• 32:26
  where
• 32:26
  I
• 32:26
  could
• 32:27
  hide.
• 32:27
  And
• 32:28
  I
• 32:28
  found
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  manager's
• 32:29
  office
• 32:29
  of
• 32:29
  this
• 32:29
  theater
• 32:30
  in
• 32:30
  Times
• 32:30
  Square.
• 32:31
  And
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  ran
• 32:31
  in
• 32:31
  there
• 32:31
  and
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  couldn't
• 32:32
  see
• 32:32
  out
• 32:32
  of
• 32:32
  this
• 32:32
  helmet.
• 32:33
  And
• 32:33
  I
• 32:34
  turn
• 32:34
  around
• 32:35
  and
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  slam
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  door.
• 32:37
  And
• 32:38
  into
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  door
• 32:38
  I
• 32:38
  scream
• 32:40
  f
• 32:40
  me.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  go,
• 32:43
  where
• 32:43
  am
• 32:43
  I?
• 32:43
  And
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  turn
• 32:43
  around.
• 32:43
  It's
• 32:44
  this
• 32:44
  tiny
• 32:44
  little
• 32:44
  room
• 32:45
  that's
• 32:45
  triangular
• 32:46
  shaped.
• 32:46
  And
• 32:46
  cowering
• 32:47
  in
• 32:47
  the
• 32:47
  corner
• 32:47
  is
• 32:47
  Frank
• 32:48
  Zappa
• 32:48
  all
• 32:48
  by
• 32:49
  himself.
• 32:49
  How
• 32:49
  about
• 32:49
  that?
• 32:50
  And
• 32:50
  he
• 32:50
  said,
• 32:51
  oh,
• 32:51
  God,
• 32:51
  I'm
• 32:52
  so
• 32:52
  sorry.
• 32:53
  I'm
• 32:53
  just
• 32:53
  hiding.
• 32:53
  He
• 32:54
  said,
• 32:54
  well,
• 32:54
  why
• 32:54
  do
• 32:54
  you
• 32:54
  think
• 32:54
  I'm
• 32:55
  here?
• 32:56
  He
• 32:56
  said,
• 32:56
  sit
• 32:57
  on
• 32:57
  down.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:57
  we
• 32:57
  had
• 32:58
  this.
• 32:58
  I
• 32:58
  was
• 32:58
  like
• 32:58
  19,
• 32:59
  20,
• 32:59
  you
• 32:59
  know,
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  we
• 33:00
  had
• 33:00
  this
• 33:00
  half
• 33:00
  an
• 33:01
  hour
• 33:01
  conversation.
• 33:02
  And
• 33:02
  he
• 33:02
  was
• 33:02
  so
• 33:03
  kind
• 33:03
  and
• 33:04
  genuine.
• 33:05
  His
• 33:06
  pianist,
• 33:06
  Ian
• 33:07
  Underwood
• 33:08
  was
• 33:08
  the
• 33:08
  first
• 33:08
  guy
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  turn
• 33:09
  me
• 33:09
  on.
• 33:09
  He
• 33:10
  was
• 33:10
  at
• 33:10
  Yale
• 33:11
  and
• 33:11
  he
• 33:12
  got
• 33:12
  me
• 33:12
  stoned
• 33:12
  for
• 33:13
  the
• 33:13
  first
• 33:13
  time.
• 33:13
  Really?
• 33:13
  Ian
• 33:14
  Underwood?
• 33:14
  Yeah.
• 33:14
  Wow.
• 33:15
  Cool.
• 33:16
  Oh,
• 33:16
  man.
• 33:16
  Ben
• 33:16
  Vaughn,
• 33:17
  thank
• 33:18
  you
• 33:18
  so
• 33:18
  much.
• 33:18
  Sexy
• 33:19
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• 33:19
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• 33:19
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• 33:19
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• 33:20
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• 33:20
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• 33:20
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• 33:20
  show
• 33:20
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• 33:21
  ever
• 33:21
  heard
• 33:21
  in
• 33:21
  my
• 33:21
  life.
• 33:21
  Oh,
• 33:22
  thank
• 33:22
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• 33:23
  I
• 33:23
  love
• 33:23
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• 33:23
  Thank
• 33:23
  you.
• 33:24
  It.
• 33:25
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• 33:25
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• 33:25
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• 33:25
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• 33:26
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• 33:27
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• 33:27
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• 33:27
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• 33:28
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• 33:28
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• 33:29
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• 33:29
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• 33:29
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• 33:30
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• 33:30
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• 33:30
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• 33:30
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• 33:31
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• 33:31
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• 33:32
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• 33:32
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• 33:32
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• 33:33
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• 33:33
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• 33:33
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• 33:34
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• 33:35
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• 33:35
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• 33:36
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• 33:44
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• 33:46
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• 33:46
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• 33:46
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• 33:46
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• 33:48
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• 33:48
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• 33:48
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• 33:49
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• 33:49
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• 33:49
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• 33:50
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• 33:50
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• 33:50
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• 33:50
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• 33:50
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• 33:51
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• 33:51
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• 33:51
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• 33:51
  Anytime
• 33:52
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• 33:52
  got
• 33:52
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• 33:52
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• 33:53
  promote,
• 33:53
  give
• 33:54
  us
• 33:54
  a
• 33:54
  call.
• 33:55
  I'll
• 33:55
  be
• 33:55
  here
• 33:55
  next
• 33:55
  week.
• 33:58
  All
• 33:58
  right.
• 33:58
  Ben
• 33:58
  Vaughn,
• 33:59
  thanks
• 33:59
  so
• 33:59
  much.
• 33:59
  You
• 34:00
  are
• 34:00
  welcome.
• 34:00
  I'm
• 34:00
  Ted
• 34:01
  Bonnitt.
• 34:01
  I'm
• 34:01
  Phil
• 34:01
  Proctor.
• 34:02
  Thanks
• 34:02
  everybody.
• 34:03
  Really
• 34:03
  appreciate
• 34:03
  you
• 34:04
  joining
• 34:04
  us.
• 34:04
  And
• 34:04
  again,
• 34:05
  stay
• 34:05
  sexy.
• 34:06
  Bye.
• 34:06
  Bye.