Latest / The Daily Play With Joy Taylor / Historic WNBA Season Politically Hijacked, Stephanie White Defends Fever, and Josh Allen Set for Preseason
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to The Daily Play with Joy Taylor.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me. Make sure you hit
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Joy Taylor. So, before we get to NFL preseason updates,
- 0:14Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's going on in the WMBA.
- 0:19Speaker 1: The basketball is better than ever, but the off court
- 0:21Speaker 1: issues are overtaking the headlines seemingly more and more regularly.
- 0:27Speaker 1: After a win over the New York Liberty earlier this week,
- 0:30Speaker 1: Indiana Fever head coach Stephanie White spoke up on behalf
- 0:34Speaker 1: of her players. She is in her second year as
- 0:37Speaker 1: a Fever head coach, and she was responding in part
- 0:40Speaker 1: what she called quotes an online community, it's trying to
- 0:44Speaker 1: create narratives that simply don't exist, after some felt that
- 0:48Speaker 1: Sophie Cunningham she did not have Sophie Cunningham as back
- 0:51Speaker 1: when the Fever guard was on the receiving end of
- 0:54Speaker 1: a flagrant foul by Chicago Skyguard Djna Carrington on Saturday.
- 1:00Speaker 2: We are united, we are connected, We will not be divided.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Every day these women put their ass on the line.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Every day. When they go low, we go high.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Love will win, Grace will win, Humility will win, and
- 1:11Speaker 1: kindness will win. I stand by them and I always
- 1:14Speaker 1: stand by them. Everyone else can go to hell. I
- 1:16Speaker 1: take personally any suggestions that I don't one hundred percent
- 1:19Speaker 1: of my players back.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I ride with them. Tem Toe's down all the time.
- 1:21Speaker 1: They know that. She was very emphatic about this and
- 1:24Speaker 1: left the room before taking any questions. Caitlin Clark also
- 1:29Speaker 1: spoke up about the fan reaction before the tip off.
- 1:32Speaker 1: So it's tough. That's my head coach. I hated the
- 1:34Speaker 1: fans boot her before the game. Clark An Cunningham's that
- 1:38Speaker 1: the team wanted to play well for White. Kelsey Mitchell
- 1:42Speaker 1: and Elijah Boston spoke up about the wooing before the game.
- 1:47Speaker 1: It's really a frustrating time for the coverage of the WNBA,
- 1:53Speaker 1: and it has been for a while now. And listen,
- 1:57Speaker 1: I have been covered bring sports and been in this
- 2:01Speaker 1: business for almost twenty years. I have seen lots of
- 2:07Speaker 1: toxic conversations surrounding sports. Is not exclusive to women's sports,
- 2:12Speaker 1: It is not exclusive to any particular sport. These conversations
- 2:19Speaker 1: pertaining to trans players is a bit more particularly exclusive
- 2:30Speaker 1: to well, not exclusive, that's redundant, but you know it
- 2:34Speaker 1: seems to follow women's basketball more consistently than other sports.
- 2:41Speaker 1: But what's happening right now is the conversation about the
- 2:46Speaker 1: WNBA is being hijacked by people who do not support
- 2:53Speaker 1: women's sports, do not support women.
- 2:56Speaker 2: They're not.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Out here talking about the disparity of research for women's
- 3:06Speaker 1: health care compared to men's. They're not out here campaigning
- 3:11Speaker 1: for women to have autonomy over their bodies. They're not
- 3:14Speaker 1: out here speaking loudly and demanding justice for women who
- 3:19Speaker 1: have been sexually assaulted. They're not talking about maternal mortality
- 3:28Speaker 1: rates for pregnant women in this country.
- 3:32Speaker 2: They're not talking about maternity leave.
- 3:35Speaker 1: They're not talking about the mortality rate for pregnant Black
- 3:37Speaker 1: women in this country. They don't care about women, they
- 3:41Speaker 1: don't care about women's sports, and these these people have
- 3:47Speaker 1: hijacked the conversation. They're using the WNBA because it is
- 3:51Speaker 1: convenient for them.
- 3:53Speaker 2: To prop up a conversation. They started.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And used w NBA as and it's growing popularity and
- 4:05Speaker 1: divisiveness amongst fans to prop up their political and social stances.
- 4:14Speaker 1: There's no conversation about trans athletes in the w NBA.
- 4:18Speaker 1: There's never been a trans athlete in the w NBA.
- 4:20Speaker 1: There's no pipeline of a trans athlete coming to the
- 4:23Speaker 1: w NBA.
- 4:25Speaker 2: It's not a real thing. It's a fairy tale conversation
- 4:29Speaker 2: made up because it is a trigger word, is a trigger.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Topic for people who do not understand, who are not educated,
- 4:40Speaker 1: who choose not to be educated, and who simply want
- 4:44Speaker 1: to make what they feel as a point that they're
- 4:49Speaker 1: not even making because there's there's no trans people coming
- 4:53Speaker 1: for women's sports, particularly the WNBA, one player says, does
- 5:02Speaker 1: not reflect obviously the opinions of the entire league, and
- 5:09Speaker 1: it also doesn't reflect the reality literally of the situation.
- 5:17Speaker 1: You can have whatever opinion you want about trans people
- 5:20Speaker 1: playing in professional sports or in women's sports, but the
- 5:27Speaker 1: facts remain in the facts. There's never been a trans
- 5:31Speaker 1: person in the WNBA. There's no trans person trying to
- 5:37Speaker 1: play in the WNBA. So you're emphatically arguing for nothing,
- 5:44Speaker 1: for literally nothing, playing right into the hands of these people.
- 5:49Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate that these women are having to deal
- 5:54Speaker 1: with this sort of attention, especially this season that the
- 6:00Speaker 1: WNBA is having. Season of the fever are having. Now,
- 6:04Speaker 1: it's not from nowhere, This is the consequence of actions,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and whether you like it or not, actions have consequences.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Sometimes they're positive, sometimes they're negative, but there are always consequences.
- 6:20Speaker 1: No one's being persecuted here, and there is actually a
- 6:25Speaker 1: way to stop all of this. It's not gonna happen.
- 6:30Speaker 1: But I find the incessant need for an unnecessary opinion
- 6:45Speaker 1: to be exhausting. And you know, I really feel these
- 6:49Speaker 1: women when they're like, we need to talk about basketball.
- 6:53Speaker 1: There are players who are having unbelievable seasons. More and
- 6:57Speaker 1: more people are paying attention to the actual s, and yeah,
- 7:03Speaker 1: I just hate to give attention to these people who
- 7:06Speaker 1: are so transparently do not care about women, because your
- 7:12Speaker 1: actions have to follow that across the board. If you're
- 7:17Speaker 1: concerned about women's sports, I'm gonna need that energy across
- 7:21Speaker 1: the board for everything. And it's not there because you
- 7:25Speaker 1: don't care and you never have. And yeah, you can
- 7:32Speaker 1: miss me with it. You can miss me with the outrage.
- 7:34Speaker 1: You're not outraged, you don't care. You fall into the
- 7:40Speaker 1: same category as every other knuckle dragger that is easily
- 7:46Speaker 1: triggered by certain catchphrases, and the big bad boogeyman is
- 7:56Speaker 1: not there, just like unplugged, you know, from the ivy
- 8:05Speaker 1: of like propaganda and fear mongering. It's really not that
- 8:08Speaker 1: scary out here. And I'm not like out on some
- 8:14Speaker 1: islands or with my head.
- 8:18Speaker 2: In the sand. It just doesn't exist.
- 8:20Speaker 1: I worry about things that exists as a woman living
- 8:25Speaker 1: in this country, as a former woman athlete, as someone
- 8:31Speaker 1: who advocates for women in all spaces, and have my
- 8:39Speaker 1: entire career and the fruits of my labor exist. No,
- 8:50Speaker 1: this is not something you're concerned about. You do not
- 8:53Speaker 1: care about these women. You do not care about the
- 8:55Speaker 1: WNBA athletes. You do not care about women athletes who
- 8:58Speaker 1: do not care about women. If you did, you would
- 9:05Speaker 1: be advocating for more things than just protecting WNBA players
- 9:11Speaker 1: from a person that doesn't exist or people that do
- 9:16Speaker 1: not exist.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:22Speaker 1: I'm just I'm keeping it pc for the sake of
- 9:29Speaker 1: this particular conversation, but yeah.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I mean I it kind of enrages me.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Because where you get the nerve to prop yourself up
- 9:43Speaker 1: as someone who cares about women, you don't care. You
- 9:53Speaker 1: don't care about women, And that is part of the
- 9:57Speaker 1: reason why there's so much pushback, because.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Is everyone can see everyone who who lives. This very
- 10:08Speaker 2: clearly sees.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Through this grift and and it's a powerful one, and
- 10:12Speaker 1: it's a lucrative grift, and it is it does it
- 10:17Speaker 1: does have its benefits. You know, to be a grifter
- 10:22Speaker 1: in that space, but that's all you are because you're not.
- 10:25Speaker 2: You don't care about you don't care about women.
- 10:28Speaker 1: So I feel them, I feel I feel for the
- 10:32Speaker 1: players who are really.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Trying to go and focus on basketball.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And as the season, you know, winds down and we
- 10:43Speaker 1: get closer to the playoffs, I think this is going
- 10:46Speaker 1: to be really important stretch and time for the w NBA,
- 10:54Speaker 1: for these coaches and for these athletes who are being
- 10:58Speaker 1: asked questions that.
- 11:01Speaker 2: No one else was being asked.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And it would be interesting to see if they did
- 11:10Speaker 1: start asking asking other athletes these questions. We're just you know,
- 11:15Speaker 1: asking the people who are out here barking about it
- 11:17Speaker 1: to explain themselves intellectually, of course, not emotionally, not with
- 11:23Speaker 1: catchphrases and cliches. It's really embarrassing, and again, I just
- 11:31Speaker 1: hate to give them the attention, but it's reached.
- 11:36Speaker 2: This point where.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just props this whole conversation, and.
- 11:50Speaker 2: It's very toxic, and it's hard to.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Even have a conversation about the w without these things
- 11:55Speaker 1: coming up in an interesting year, and I think it's
- 12:00Speaker 1: I think how it's handled will actually be very important
- 12:05Speaker 1: for the progression of the league into next year, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: as the league continues to expand with new teams and
- 12:14Speaker 1: you've got you know, a billion dollar valuation for the
- 12:18Speaker 1: Golden State Valkyries, and as.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Sports and sports coverage continues to grow.
- 12:24Speaker 1: As we can see that it is and I've been
- 12:28Speaker 1: banging the drum for years that news and sports are
- 12:31Speaker 1: the last thing that we watch live, so they're an
- 12:33Speaker 1: absolute premium. Right now, you're seeing what these rights are
- 12:35Speaker 1: going for. You saw the new CBA. These women are
- 12:41Speaker 1: being paid millions of dollars now and our and the
- 12:46Speaker 1: league is continuing to grow despite the constant you know,
- 12:50Speaker 1: chatter about it, which I also find ironic because for years,
- 12:56Speaker 1: some of these same men we're talking about how this
- 12:58Speaker 1: league doesn't matter and it's just a waste of money
- 13:02Speaker 1: and time, and now all of a sudden, everyone has
- 13:04Speaker 1: these deep, strong feelings about protecting women. I do think
- 13:09Speaker 1: how the conversation is handled and how the commissioner handles
- 13:12Speaker 1: this is going to be very important because there's a
- 13:17Speaker 1: lot on the line. There is the original you know fandom,
- 13:21Speaker 1: the hardcore fans, there are the new fans that are
- 13:24Speaker 1: at the table.
- 13:25Speaker 2: There is now massive corporate sponsors.
- 13:28Speaker 1: There's now droves of media covering the league.
- 13:34Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to be really it's going to
- 13:38Speaker 2: be really interesting, and I for one can't wait to
- 13:43Speaker 2: see what happens. But I do know I can't continue to.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Yeah, to allow the conversations to go on without pointing
- 13:56Speaker 1: out that they are complete and other frauds. Dude, if
- 14:02Speaker 1: you are an advocate for women in sports, I expect
- 14:04Speaker 1: you to put your money where your mouth is, your energy,
- 14:07Speaker 1: your platform for all things that advocate for women.
- 14:12Speaker 2: If you can do that for an extended.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Amount of time and might buy this little aware that
- 14:18Speaker 1: you're selling, but right now you can keep it moving
- 14:21Speaker 1: with that. So I also wanted to give that update
- 14:25Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. He is going to play preseason week one,
- 14:29Speaker 1: at least that was a plan.
- 14:30Speaker 2: On Thursday.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Coach Joe Brady said that things can change after today's practice,
- 14:35Speaker 1: but right now, everyone that's healthy is going to be playing.
- 14:39Speaker 1: It's the first game in the new technically in their
- 14:41Speaker 1: new stadium, and it's Joe Brady's first year fully running
- 14:44Speaker 1: the show in Buffalo, which I'm fascinated to watch. Joe
- 14:46Speaker 1: Brady has been someone that has been at the forefront
- 14:50Speaker 1: of expectations for some time now. This is a big
- 14:52Speaker 1: change for Buffalo with a new head coach moving on
- 14:58Speaker 1: from Sean McDermott. I don't need to see Josh Allen
- 15:03Speaker 1: play a lot. Preseason is very, very tricky. It's like,
- 15:07Speaker 1: if you don't play and then you start season slow,
- 15:10Speaker 1: everyone's mad at you.
- 15:11Speaker 2: If you do play and you injure yourself, everyone's mad
- 15:14Speaker 2: at you. So there's like there's a risk factor that
- 15:17Speaker 2: you have to take.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And I do think that you do need to get
- 15:20Speaker 1: some reps in as starters in preseason. Just keep it light,
- 15:26Speaker 1: articularly with Josh Allen. Josh is an incredibly dynamic player.
- 15:32Speaker 2: We know what he can do with his legs, We
- 15:34Speaker 2: know what he is capable of.
- 15:36Speaker 1: I feel like this year, maybe our expectations of them
- 15:39Speaker 1: going all the way is outlandish.
- 15:43Speaker 2: But you know, time is money.
- 15:47Speaker 1: We just thought what the New England Patriots did at
- 15:51Speaker 1: some point, they do need to convert this situation and
- 15:54Speaker 1: Josh Allen into a championship and or at least get
- 15:59Speaker 1: to a champion shift and your window is not open forever.
- 16:03Speaker 1: So I don't feel like super strongly that he shouldn't
- 16:07Speaker 1: be playing, but I just wanted to keep it light,
- 16:09Speaker 1: keep it light, make sure you know, he gets out there,
- 16:12Speaker 1: gets a little loose, doesn't go, you know, diving into
- 16:16Speaker 1: a helicopter, dive into the end zone.
- 16:18Speaker 2: He's a professional, he knows what he's doing.
- 16:20Speaker 1: But I just want to see a long season with
- 16:22Speaker 1: Josh Allen and I don't want that ruin be gaets
- 16:24Speaker 1: a preseason.
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