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S2 E12 Midday Missing - Rose Eaton & Oakley Carlson Missing in Washington · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Hello lovelies, and happy Wednesday. I am not in my
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  Speaker 1: about our little podcast. Now, hello to everybody that is
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  Speaker 1: today due to the fact I am on my laptop
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have multiple monitors, so I apologize right
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  Speaker 1: now now before we get into today's cases. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about something I saw this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Savannah Guthrie. They issued like a little trailer
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  Speaker 1: about her interview talking about her mom, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you, guys, it broke me. Okay, it broke
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  Speaker 1: me this morning. I literally started ugly crying. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason why. And I know a lot of people have
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  Speaker 1: complained that her mom has gotten so much exposure unlike others.
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  Speaker 1: But what I want to say is, yes, it's not fair,
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  Speaker 1: but it's the way the world works. But what broke
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  Speaker 1: me is her feelings and the things that she talked
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  Speaker 1: about and how she feels is what every family member
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  Speaker 1: that I've ever spoken to who have family loved ones missing,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. They wake up in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night wondering what exactly happened, what their loved
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  Speaker 1: one is going through, are they safe, do they have food?
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  Speaker 1: Why did this happen? All of those questions. So I
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  Speaker 1: want you to think about that today as we go
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  Speaker 1: through today's cases. Okay, and today we are heading to Washington. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Washington is a place of contrast, where dense evergreen forest
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  Speaker 1: stretched for miles and mis rolls in off the Pacific
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  Speaker 1: like a quiet veil over landscape and beautiful from the
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  Speaker 1: rainsoaked streets of Ceas to the rugged coastline and remote
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  Speaker 1: mountain train. It's a state as beautiful as it is vast.
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  Speaker 1: But guys, that same terrain can complicate searches when someone disappears.
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  Speaker 1: Thick woods, isolated rural communities in constantly shifting weather conditions
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  Speaker 1: makes it even more difficult for investigators and family searching
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  Speaker 1: for answers. Washington has consistently reported hundreds of missing person
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  Speaker 1: cases each year, with many being resolved, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them are still open. Okay, and today we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about two of those cases. One of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to warn you now, if you're new here,
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  Speaker 1: there will be rants. Okay, there will be rants on
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  Speaker 1: one of these Okay. Rose E. Eaton was seventy three
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  Speaker 1: years old when she vanished on July twenty fifth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: from Chimacum, which is a small unincorporated area in Jefferson County, Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Rose was born on June twenty sixth, nineteen twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: She is described as a white female with gray hair
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  Speaker 1: and blue eyes, standing about five feet eight to five
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  Speaker 1: feet nine weighing around one hundred and sixty pounds now.
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  Speaker 1: She had previously fractured her upper left arm and had
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  Speaker 1: a small scar on the back of her neck, as
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  Speaker 1: well as a scar on her abdomen. At the time
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  Speaker 1: of her disappearance, Rose had been living with dementia for
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  Speaker 1: several years. Despite that, she was physically healthy and living
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  Speaker 1: with her son as a dependent adult. Now. She did
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  Speaker 1: not drive, but that morning her son was preparing to
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  Speaker 1: take her to a dental appointment. Rose was already seated
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  Speaker 1: in the vehicle waiting for her son when her son
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  Speaker 1: noticed that several of his stock animals had gotten loose.
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  Speaker 1: He told her, hey, mom, stay in the car, and
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  Speaker 1: he stepped away to secure those animals, leaving her inside
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  Speaker 1: with the family's German shepherd. He said he was gone
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  Speaker 1: for about ten minutes. Guys. When he came back, she
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  Speaker 1: was gone. Her tan purse was also missing, but the
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  Speaker 1: dog remained in the vehicle. Her son immediately began searching.
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  Speaker 1: He checked along the nearby road and returned to the house,
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  Speaker 1: which was still locked. When he could not find her,
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  Speaker 1: he contacted law enforcement. Guys, it can happen that fast. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: oh gosh, an extensive search followed. Tracking dogs were able
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  Speaker 1: to follow roses scent for about one third of a
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  Speaker 1: mile down a dirt road leading to the junction of
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  Speaker 1: that road in Beaver Valley Road, which was a mained
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  Speaker 1: paved roadway. Guys, then the scent just dropped, just stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators believe it's possible Rose may have entered a passing
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  Speaker 1: vehicle at that location. Guys, somebody, I say this many
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  Speaker 1: many times, someone could leave their home intending to go
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  Speaker 1: somewhere and something nefarious happened. Okay, Rosa had very little
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  Speaker 1: money with her, Like I said, she could not drive,
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  Speaker 1: while her dementia made her daily life more difficult, and
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  Speaker 1: she had expressed that she wanted to continue living with
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  Speaker 1: her family. She did not make any comments that she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to leave. Now, investigators say foul play is not suspected.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to just go out on a limb and say,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can say that, because what
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  Speaker 1: if somebody says, hey, ma'am, do you need a drive.
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  Speaker 1: She's an older lady, she has dementia, she gets in
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  Speaker 1: the car with them. What if they're a bad guy
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  Speaker 1: and they did something bad. So I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you can say that, okay, but they say it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been ruled out due to the way her scent abruptly ended. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to just go out on a lemon and say,
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  Speaker 1: don't happen now. At the time she disappeared, Rose was
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  Speaker 1: wearing a long sleeved blue button down coat, a long
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  Speaker 1: white blue dress, and blue size eight and a half
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  Speaker 1: therapeutic shoes with rubber soles. She was carrying a tan
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  Speaker 1: purse and wearing a ruby ring with small diamonds now.
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  Speaker 1: Her son Rick has questioned whether her disappearance could be
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  Speaker 1: connected in any way to the two thousand and five
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  Speaker 1: murder of his sister Janet. Guys, for a family to
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  Speaker 1: have a loved one murdered and then one go missing,
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  Speaker 1: how much can one family take? Now? The motive in
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  Speaker 1: that case has been described as unclear. Rose Eaton is
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  Speaker 1: still missing and there has been no sign of her.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have any information, please contact the Jefferson
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office at three six h three eight five
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  Speaker 1: three eight three one. Guys, somebody knows something. If her
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  Speaker 1: scin just disappeared, she got into somebody's vehicle, Okay, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't just hop on a little jet and go to
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  Speaker 1: the sky. Okay, she had to have gotten in somebody's vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: which means somebody out there knows something. Okay. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: you know of or if you have a loved one
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  Speaker 1: that's missing and you're interested in having their story featured
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  Speaker 1: on an upcoming episode, or maybe you want to come
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  Speaker 1: on and do a live interview, you can email me
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  Speaker 1: directly Terry at tcwtmedia dot com, or you can contact
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  Speaker 1: us through any of our social media accounts. Okay, now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you to buckle up because this
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  Speaker 1: next case is pure hell to cover, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to try to keep my rants to a minimum. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pissed about the next case, and if you watch True
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  Speaker 1: Crime and Wine Time, where we're covering the Robert Hansen story,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been pissed off the whole month
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  Speaker 1: of March. Okay, so let's get it out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oakley Carson was born in December twenty sixteen and was
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  Speaker 1: just five years old when he disappeared from Gray's Harbor, County, Washington. Now,
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  Speaker 1: before her birth, the Department of Children, Youth and Family
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  Speaker 1: Services had already received multiple reports involving her mother, Jordan Bowers,
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  Speaker 1: and her partner Andrew Carlson Now. According to a later
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  Speaker 1: Child Fatality Review, Child Fatality Review DCIF had received at
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  Speaker 1: least fourteen calls about the family over the years, some
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  Speaker 1: dating back to twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. A half
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  Speaker 1: sibling had been temporarily placed in an out of home
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  Speaker 1: care during the time, but was later returned. In twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: they received allegations that Bowers yelled profanities at a seventeen
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  Speaker 1: month old sibling and failed to obtain necessary medical care.
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  Speaker 1: The report was closed after it was determined it did
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  Speaker 1: not meet the legal threshold for response. First, first thing,
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  Speaker 1: how cannot getting necessary medical care for your child not
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  Speaker 1: meet the legal threshold hold for an agency to respond? How?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand that, and I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you It's one of the reasons I stopped being a
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  Speaker 1: COSA advocate here in Texas, because you get in there
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  Speaker 1: to help and you basically are handcuffed, and courts still
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  Speaker 1: give the kids back. The following mouth, another caller reported
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  Speaker 1: similar concerns about medical care and also drug use and
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  Speaker 1: domestic violence. Finally, they opened an investigation, Okay, a case
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  Speaker 1: was opened. But guess what, nothing was done. Nothing, nothing
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  Speaker 1: was done with that, so many failures, so they this
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  Speaker 1: missing child is on you, guys, okay. They later filed
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  Speaker 1: dependency petitions for Oakley and her siblings, asking the court
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  Speaker 1: to declare the children dependent on the state for protection
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  Speaker 1: due to abuse or neglect. Law enforcement took the children
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  Speaker 1: into custody. Finally, thank you. In January twenty eighteen, after
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  Speaker 1: Oakley's parents did not appear at a hearing, the court
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  Speaker 1: declared the children dependence. The court repeatedly denied the parent's
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  Speaker 1: motion to appeal. Should have showed up the first time.
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  Speaker 1: In August twenty eighteen, DCYF filed a petition to terminate
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  Speaker 1: Bowers and Crossing's parental rights. After the petition was filed,
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  Speaker 1: the parents began completing requirements to regain custody of the children,
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  Speaker 1: including parenting classes, substance to use treatment, psychological evaluations. Guys, CPS, DCYF,
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  Speaker 1: their main goal is to reunify children with their family.
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  Speaker 1: But guys, that's not always what's in the best indress
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  Speaker 1: of the child, okay, And that is why I stepped
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  Speaker 1: away from COSA because of that. Now, Carlson was discharged
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  Speaker 1: from domestic violence treatment due to non compliance. He just
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  Speaker 1: didn't go now. A judge later granted Bower's appeal, and
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  Speaker 1: the case never went to a termination trial. Okay. In
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, a DCYF caseworker and a court appointed advocate
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  Speaker 1: like I was sought to change the plan to adoption
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  Speaker 1: as the preferred option instead of reunification. That request was denied. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That fall, DCYF began allowing unsupervised visits as a step
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  Speaker 1: towards reunification. A caseworker met with Oakley regularly, and documentation
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  Speaker 1: reflected that she did not make any concerning statements about
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  Speaker 1: the time she spent with her parents. Excuse me, she
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  Speaker 1: was a freaking five six year old child. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think she's gonna say? She loves her parents and
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  Speaker 1: it's scary to be taken away from your parents and
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  Speaker 1: sent somewhere else. What do you think she's gonna say?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what makes you think she's gonna be open
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  Speaker 1: or even know the words to use? I am sorry,
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  Speaker 1: that just pushes my buttons. Okay. The court approved a
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  Speaker 1: trial return to her parents' home, with a caseworker making
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  Speaker 1: regular visits. Now remind you he was kicked out of
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  Speaker 1: his domestic violence classes. Okay, just remember that a few
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  Speaker 1: months later, the COVID nineteen pandemic began. Okay. Then Governor
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  Speaker 1: j Ensley issued a mandate that DCYF conduct health and
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  Speaker 1: safety visits virtually rather than in person. I get. They
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  Speaker 1: had to do what they had to do. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get that. In June of twenty twenty, the court dismissed
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  Speaker 1: Oakley's depending case. She was no longer under court or
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  Speaker 1: the dcyf's supervision. So guys, what the actual hell? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you haven't put your physical eyes on this child except
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  Speaker 1: for a video. Why would you terminate that and stop? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't you just let things continue, keep doing it,
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  Speaker 1: maybe terminate the virtual But then before you end it,
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  Speaker 1: go and see the child in person and see the home.
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  Speaker 1: What if child has bruises on her back you can't see?
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  Speaker 1: Did you make her get undressed on video? Did you
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  Speaker 1: make her strip down? How do you know? How do
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  Speaker 1: you know what was going on? I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Then in January, DCYF received a call reporting that Oakley
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  Speaker 1: had been seen with scratches and bruises on the face.
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  Speaker 1: The caller also reported that Andrew Carlson had recently lost
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  Speaker 1: his job due to allegations of substance use. Once again,
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  Speaker 1: why in the hell is he even allowed to be
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  Speaker 1: around any of the children since he was kicked out
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  Speaker 1: of DV classes due to non compliance. Can somebody in
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  Speaker 1: Washington and DCYF tell me why? Why? Why? Why? I
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  Speaker 1: Am going to look at the comments and see if
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  Speaker 1: anybody has put anything in because I you're so pam
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  Speaker 1: in disguise that she had foster children that returned to
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  Speaker 1: the BIO mom returned a bad situation because they promote reunification. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my situation here in Texas when I was a CLASSA advocate,
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  Speaker 1: I had a fourteen year old and I was her caseworker.
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  Speaker 1: Went to see her. Her mom had died, she was
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  Speaker 1: living with her elderly grandmother. Her dad had been in
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  Speaker 1: prison for say against her Okay, he got the courts
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  Speaker 1: wanted to give the child to him when he got
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  Speaker 1: out of prison because her mom was dead and the
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  Speaker 1: grandmother was old. And I was like, that is not
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  Speaker 1: in the best interests of a child to send this
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  Speaker 1: fourteen year old back to the man who has hayed her. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he did it when she was three. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: You don't send her back because do you think in
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  Speaker 1: prison he got rid of those urges. No he didn't, No,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't. So I resigned from being an advocate because
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  Speaker 1: they said they wanted to do was in the best
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  Speaker 1: interests of the child, and as an essay survivor, I
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  Speaker 1: gave them my story and why I thought it was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, we're not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 1: So now, the next day a caseworker went to the home.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Bowers would not allow the caseworker inside. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I get that they don't have to answer the door
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  Speaker 1: and they don't have to let you inside. But you
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to go to a judge and say
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  Speaker 1: that we are worried about this child and give me
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  Speaker 1: a warrant and then you go with law enforcement. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this child had already been in state's custody, and there's
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  Speaker 1: another claim that she's been physically abused. She didn't get
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  Speaker 1: the right to say no, I'm sorry. You lose that right.
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  Speaker 1: You lose that right in my opinion. Okay, guys, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I need to specify in my opinion, You're right, Lama.
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  Speaker 1: It was so fucking gross Okay, I still can't do
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  Speaker 1: it now. The case worker briefly saw Oakley through a
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  Speaker 1: sliding glass door, wearing only a diaper. She said from
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  Speaker 1: there she couldn't see anything. That's how she put her
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  Speaker 1: eyes on her. A sibling who was interviewed at school
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  Speaker 1: said that they had been spanked the night before. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if it's a regular spanking, I don't have kids currently,
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  Speaker 1: they're grown. I don't you know, but spanking. Sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: was raised in the South. There's nothing wrong with a
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  Speaker 1: spank on the butt. But guys. Oakley was last seen
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  Speaker 1: alive or in person February twenty twenty one by someone
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  Speaker 1: other than her biological parents. Okay. In March of twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, two child welfare workers returned to the
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  Speaker 1: home and were again denied access. Later that month, a
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  Speaker 1: relative reported seeing a torch on the counter and express
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  Speaker 1: concern about possible drug use. Again, why in the hell
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  Speaker 1: were these kids not taken into the state's custody again, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: DCAF you're about to go on my Alaska list. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and let me tell you you do not want to
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  Speaker 1: be on my Alaska list. You don't Okay, you don't
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  Speaker 1: you're ready for this guy's buckle up. In November twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: first three callers reported that the family's home had caught
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  Speaker 1: fire and that they were living in this home after
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  Speaker 1: the file, after the fire with structural damage. They were
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  Speaker 1: living in a home that had burned. Okay. Those reports
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  Speaker 1: were deemed insufficient to warrant a response. So again, remind you,
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  Speaker 1: nobody has put their eyes on these children since these
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  Speaker 1: calls came in. That there was a torch, which apparently
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  Speaker 1: a torch goes with drug use. Did not know that,
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  Speaker 1: and that there was bruises on the child. Okay? Why
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  Speaker 1: was this not sufficient enough to respond? Children living in
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  Speaker 1: a home structure that is damaged on a fire. How
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  Speaker 1: was that not a concern? How is that not a concern?
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  Speaker 1: Somebody tell me, educate me please. In December that year,
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  Speaker 1: a school principal overheard a conversation between her own child
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  Speaker 1: and Oakley's sister. According to court documents, the sister said
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  Speaker 1: Oakley is no more and there is no Oakley. The
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  Speaker 1: principal had visited the family's home three times and had
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  Speaker 1: not seen Oakley. She contacted d CYF and law enforcement,
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  Speaker 1: requesting a welfare check. According to the report when question one,
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  Speaker 1: siblings told the authorities that their mother had forbidden them
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  Speaker 1: from speaking about Oakley and claimed that Oakley had gone
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  Speaker 1: out into the woods and had been eaten by wolves.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Bowers and Andrew Coulson told law enforcement that Oakley
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  Speaker 1: was living with her grandfather. When the grandfather questions, he
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  Speaker 1: said he hadn't seen Oakley and nearly a year. What
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  Speaker 1: the hell, guys, what the hell? We have a five
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  Speaker 1: year old who hasn't been seen, who is missing. The
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  Speaker 1: day after the principal made the call, Laura Enlrsmith did
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  Speaker 1: declare Oakley as missing. Okay, she finally went on the
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  Speaker 1: missing person list. Her siblings were placed into protective custody.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan and pos Andrew were arrested for obstructing law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Deputies alleged that the parents could not provide any information
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  Speaker 1: or explanation about Oakley's whereabouts. Both have been identified as
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  Speaker 1: persons of interest in her abduction abduction. Did they sell her,
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  Speaker 1: did they need money? Did they give her to somebody?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, guys, I can't. I'm gonna pull my hair
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  Speaker 1: out now. Finally, they were charged and convicted of child
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  Speaker 1: or endangerment with a controlled substance in an unrelated case
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  Speaker 1: that the kids weren't taken away from them for they
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  Speaker 1: do remain persons of interest in Oakley's disappearance. A body
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  Speaker 1: has not been found. Okay. I want to know why
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  Speaker 1: they have him in charge with more. It makes zero
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  Speaker 1: sense to me. Okay. And here's where it gets scary
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  Speaker 1: and makes me wonder if they traded her to somebody
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  Speaker 1: or if they did something bad to her. In some
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  Speaker 1: court documents from twenty twenty three, there was allegations that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Oakley had been kept in a locked cell underneath the stairs. Okay. Also,
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  Speaker 1: there was claims that the mother also physically abused her
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  Speaker 1: and that she needed money. They were desperate for money.
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  Speaker 1: In July, a judge and Pacific counting to declared Oakley
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  Speaker 1: legally deceased. They did that based on Oakley's siblings wanted
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to have her declared debt and guys, it's not a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing. They were hoping. I'm sure that it would
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  Speaker 1: be moved to a homicide case. Okay, and an attorney
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  Speaker 1: for the guardian ad litem later stated that decision was
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  Speaker 1: made on the evidence reviewed in the passage of time. Now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I really okay, Oakley had been living with a foster
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  Speaker 1: mother from infancy until she was three, when she was
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: sent back to biological parents. So from three to five,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: two years, guys two years and the child went missing.
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  Speaker 1: What concerns me is that they said they were desperate
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  Speaker 1: for money after the house burning. They needed to be
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  Speaker 1: able to repair the house or find something new. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, now after that, Washington law requires them
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  Speaker 1: to conduct a child fatality review. Okay. They said that
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  Speaker 1: there is conflicting evidence. There is evidence that points to
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  Speaker 1: her biological parents being involved in her disappearance, possibly trading her,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: traffing her, or possibly they killed her. But without a body,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they are not closing it. Okay. They are not saying
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  Speaker 1: that she's deceased. As far as the missing person case,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: she still is listed missing. Now. Oakley would be ten
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: right now. So anyone with information about Oakley Carlson's disappearance
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is asked to contact the Grace Harbor County Sheriff's Office
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  Speaker 1: at three six oh nine six four one seven seven oh.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents don't deserve shit, but Oakley deserves to be found.
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  Speaker 1: If she was unalived, she deserves for her remains to
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  Speaker 1: be found so that they can be buried by her siblings, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They deserve that closure. And if she was unlived, whoever
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: did it, whether it was the parents or if they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: traded or somebody, those people deserve to go to jail
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  Speaker 1: for it. Okay. So please, I have not been doing
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  Speaker 1: a slideshow during today's because I'm on my laptop. The
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: missing person posters will be posted to our mid Day
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  Speaker 1: Missing Facebook page as well as all of my social
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  Speaker 1: media pages, so please share those. Rows and Oakley both
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  Speaker 1: deserve to be found. Okay. Now, guys, I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: being here with me today. Those of you on TikTok
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  Speaker 1: hope you love my office where I'm at. Those of
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  Speaker 1: you over on the other platforms, I hope you like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: my bad lighting and my virtual background. It means a
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  Speaker 1: lot to me for you guys to show up for
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: these missing person cases. It is very important to me
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  Speaker 1: to share these cases and to get the word out
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  Speaker 1: because guys, it's the least we can do. It is
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the least we can do for these families. Now, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: want you all to remember True Crime and mind time
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is back tonight eight pm Eastern with the ninth episode
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of The Frozen Baker story Robert Hansen from Alaska and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I hate Alaska. I hate Robert Hanson, I hate everything
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: about it. But I will be back tonight and hopefully
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: if Loma's feeling better, she'll be with us. But guys,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: be safe. If you see something, say something, and just
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: remember your silence only protects the perpetrators. Okay, bye, guys,
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  Speaker 1: take care and I will see you tonight