Latest / Reality with The King / Chan-Tell Us Anything: BBW & LAMH Recap
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well. I want to start off by saying this,
- 0:38Speaker 1: it is a privilege to be in this seat to
- 0:41Speaker 1: where I have created a safe space for In the beginning,
- 0:47Speaker 1: it was just reality stars, but courtesy of the.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Platform being huge, thanks to each and every one.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Of you who are on this live all the rain
- 0:57Speaker 1: drops for leaving and sharing it. And so a woman
- 1:03Speaker 1: who works for me, her hairdresser this morning, was talking
- 1:09Speaker 1: about the Chantell Christy interview. So I don't take any
- 1:12Speaker 1: of this for granted. It is a privilege to be
- 1:14Speaker 1: in this position, and it's such a privilege, more so
- 1:19Speaker 1: when you have reality stars and celebrities reached out to
- 1:24Speaker 1: you to say I would like to give you thank you,
- 1:28Speaker 1: I would like to give you my interview I want
- 1:31Speaker 1: to give it to you, and I want to give
- 1:33Speaker 1: it to you because you're able to have a conversation
- 1:36Speaker 1: without attacking somebody, and that means the world to me. Right,
- 1:41Speaker 1: And I thank all of you guys for supporting Reality
- 1:45Speaker 1: but the King, for supporting my channel, and for supporting
- 1:48Speaker 1: the interview, the interview. Excuse me by even watching it,
- 1:52Speaker 1: whether or not you walked away from the interview disliking
- 1:57Speaker 1: chantell More or understanding her more, What Maden is to
- 2:03Speaker 1: me is that you guys spent.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Time to check it out.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And what maddens to me is the fact that you
- 2:09Speaker 1: guys had time to leave a comment. We have ten
- 2:13Speaker 1: thousand comments in an interview that dropped four days ago.
- 2:18Speaker 1: We have close to three hundred thousand views in four days,
- 2:22Speaker 1: which is like Nini leaks, Lisa Ray McCoy level numbers
- 2:26Speaker 1: that has happened in that magnitude. So I thank all
- 2:29Speaker 1: of you for checking it out, for checking it out
- 2:32Speaker 1: because you did not have to.
- 2:34Speaker 2: What I would like to address is this.
- 2:37Speaker 1: A lot of you guys have had a lot of
- 2:39Speaker 1: comments saying, well, Carlos, we don't feel like you held
- 2:42Speaker 1: Chantel Christy accountable. I hear you I see you, and
- 2:47Speaker 1: I want to start the live talking about this.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Let's bring on Claudia in Toxtin.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So Carlos. Then people wanted to hear them. People wanted
- 3:03Speaker 3: to hear Shantel Christie say I should not have touched
- 3:07Speaker 3: my mother, I should not have talked to my mama
- 3:10Speaker 3: like that and I was wrong, and they did not
- 3:13Speaker 3: hear her say that, and that's where the disconnect was. Now,
- 3:16Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say she's supposed to say that. I'm
- 3:19Speaker 3: not gonna say she was not supposed to say that.
- 3:22Speaker 3: I just think that's where the disconnect was for a
- 3:24Speaker 3: lot of people. But I think it's something really likable
- 3:27Speaker 3: about her personality. And I really hate that a lot
- 3:31Speaker 3: of our introduction to her was her cussing her mama
- 3:34Speaker 3: out and physically, you know, pushing on her mama. I
- 3:39Speaker 3: hate that that's how we met her, but that's what happened.
- 3:42Speaker 3: But shout out to her for being brave enough she
- 3:44Speaker 3: took this. She was a good sport, I think, and
- 3:47Speaker 3: she's taking it he will. And I thought she gave
- 3:49Speaker 3: a great interview, So it was good to see that.
- 3:51Speaker 3: But that's about it for me.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah, what was so.
- 3:55Speaker 1: I'm going to get to you, to say, Claudia, but
- 3:58Speaker 1: Dustin the best part to me was this, and this
- 4:00Speaker 1: is the reason why I love what we do.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Honestly.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I love the fact that Chantelle reached out to me
- 4:09Speaker 1: after watching Me and Dustin recap that episode. Yeah, like
- 4:15Speaker 1: it did not steer her in a direction of they
- 4:19Speaker 1: don't fucking me. It was the fact that she watched
- 4:23Speaker 1: me and Dustin. Me and Dustin had two different views
- 4:27Speaker 1: on the actual moment, and it was nice that she
- 4:33Speaker 1: still said I.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Saw you when you watched it. She gave us a
- 4:38Speaker 2: shot off through time. She said. I know Dustin said
- 4:41Speaker 2: I disrespect the black Hold, but to me, it's this.
- 4:45Speaker 1: I want to bring that up to say that what
- 4:48Speaker 1: I love about this platform is the fact that all
- 4:51Speaker 1: three of us can be.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Honest with our feelings.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And it may not be the most popular take, but
- 4:58Speaker 1: it's more so about the people that I can say,
- 5:01Speaker 1: although I disagree with him, I appreciate and understand his take.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So I want to give Dustin props too, because Chantelle,
- 5:10Speaker 1: if you watch an interview, Dustin gave his out of
- 5:14Speaker 1: to god Troup and even Chantelle said, I actually see
- 5:19Speaker 1: Dustin's point of view.
- 5:20Speaker 2: And that's all we can do.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't trying to disrespect her. You know what
- 5:24Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's a very sensitive, very personal matter between
- 5:28Speaker 3: a mama and a daughter, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:30Speaker 3: So even as a person offering commentary, there's a line there,
- 5:34Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying that you just don't cross.
- 5:36Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to disrespect her. I was just offering
- 5:39Speaker 3: commentary on what we saw, you know what I'm saying
- 5:41Speaker 3: on the screen. So I'm glad she was able to
- 5:44Speaker 3: receive it well, and it feel good to see her
- 5:47Speaker 3: have her say I think you are a perfect sounding
- 5:49Speaker 3: board for her. So fuck with them. People had to say, Carlos, No,
- 5:53Speaker 3: I'm good, I have.
- 5:55Speaker 4: A new mike.
- 5:56Speaker 5: I don't know if people said someone said my side
- 5:58Speaker 5: saying I'm gonna tend can let me know if this
- 6:00Speaker 5: mic is better or worse, and I will one day
- 6:02Speaker 5: get it right after twenty years in the business.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Okay. So I did see a lot of people.
- 6:06Speaker 5: Saying, you know, holds her. I know I've given Jenckie.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Carlos didn't hold her accountable. They wanted more accountability more.
- 6:15Speaker 5: I did take notes as a journalists Okay, I did
- 6:17Speaker 5: take notes.
- 6:19Speaker 4: I didn't see what she did say.
- 6:20Speaker 5: I think in her way she gave her accountability, but
- 6:24Speaker 5: it's not what the masses want. And I think a
- 6:26Speaker 5: lot of times with reality television, and you know it
- 6:29Speaker 5: was commentary, it's almost like the movie Gladiators, like we
- 6:33Speaker 5: want to see blood, we want to see them gravel,
- 6:35Speaker 5: we want to see them crying, snotty nose.
- 6:37Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, and everyone's not wired like that.
- 6:40Speaker 5: For some people, it's like they struggled with saying I
- 6:44Speaker 5: was wrong, and I didn't see in her notes that
- 6:46Speaker 5: she did say that she was wrong, and she said,
- 6:48Speaker 5: I don't want to blame it on my post part
- 6:50Speaker 5: of I was nine months out.
- 6:52Speaker 4: It's still no excuse for my behavior.
- 6:56Speaker 5: I feel like because she didn't spend the majority of
- 6:59Speaker 5: the interview, like people want to see blood.
- 7:01Speaker 4: When we're mad at someone, we don't just like giving
- 7:03Speaker 4: them a.
- 7:03Speaker 5: Pass, Like we don't just like, well, she said sorry,
- 7:06Speaker 5: we'd be like no if that. We want to see
- 7:09Speaker 5: her breakdown. We want to see her apologize the way
- 7:11Speaker 5: we want to see her apologize.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Oh, we want to see her taking now could she
- 7:15Speaker 4: have taken more? Of course?
- 7:17Speaker 5: Could she have taken less, of course, and could Carlos
- 7:21Speaker 5: have been hard on her, of course, but definitely want
- 7:23Speaker 5: to have a safe space for other guests to come forward. Yes,
- 7:27Speaker 5: And it's a very tricky game and a dance we
- 7:30Speaker 5: have to play in these types of shows when we
- 7:31Speaker 5: are intubate people and we want more people to come
- 7:34Speaker 5: to our platforms.
- 7:35Speaker 4: It's not like the days of Howard.
- 7:36Speaker 5: Stern when you went in there knowing you go into
- 7:38Speaker 5: the lions, then they about to writ me a new
- 7:40Speaker 5: one that's not even.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Carlo says vibe.
- 7:42Speaker 5: Carlos is not that type of interview or he is
- 7:45Speaker 5: the one that lots of people What do they mostly
- 7:47Speaker 5: say about Carlos King's interviews. I didn't like this person,
- 7:50Speaker 5: but I came away from this interview liking the person more.
- 7:53Speaker 5: You'll never get those kind of interviews. If he just
- 7:55Speaker 5: goes to the drug that there's other people that can
- 7:57Speaker 5: do that. And if that's too want, then that's not
- 8:00Speaker 5: calls this platform. You should go somewhere else. I think
- 8:02Speaker 5: you need a faith where you know his job is
- 8:05Speaker 5: to be objective, and he does give his opinion several times,
- 8:09Speaker 5: but like I just feel like people want blood. Sometimes
- 8:12Speaker 5: I get and I'm not. That does not mean she's right.
- 8:15Speaker 5: But his job is to provide a place to be
- 8:18Speaker 5: interviewed to us, for us to view into what she's thinking,
- 8:22Speaker 5: not for us to put on her what we think.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Hello, you know, so that's yeah, I'm sorry, go Claudia.
- 8:30Speaker 5: Oh I'm saying that's just what an interview was. And
- 8:33Speaker 5: I don't know, I just feel like I get what
- 8:36Speaker 5: you're doing.
- 8:37Speaker 4: I get it.
- 8:38Speaker 6: Well.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Well, the beauty of you, Claudia is you're the I
- 8:43Speaker 1: figure the only person I interview twice on my podcast,
- 8:47Speaker 1: and everything you said is true because of your experience
- 8:53Speaker 1: stepping into my college, after your experience on TGIF, and
- 8:57Speaker 1: I was the first person to interview you. Claudia has
- 9:01Speaker 1: other people. She's gonna talk it to us well, I
- 9:02Speaker 1: mean spocking to us well. But I also think this
- 9:06Speaker 1: it's one of those things.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Where it's the beauty of journalism.
- 9:11Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people have been grown
- 9:13Speaker 1: up in the days like we all have where you
- 9:15Speaker 1: had either have Oprah, you have Warbara Walters, or you
- 9:18Speaker 1: had Dying Sawyer and these were three very different style
- 9:22Speaker 1: of interviews. And that's the reason why I sat at
- 9:25Speaker 1: the top. I appreciate anybody who says yes and listen,
- 9:29Speaker 1: no shade. There are people who say no to me.
- 9:32Speaker 1: There are people who's like, Okay, I did not think
- 9:38Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this up.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it up, but whatever, I'll keep it cute.
- 9:43Speaker 2: What y'all don't know.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Is somebody I was supposed to interview.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Who said yes, said no after what after.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Much thought and consideration, no, no, no no no no no
- 10:04Speaker 1: no no. The feedback was this, when you do a
- 10:09Speaker 1: Carlos King interview, you're you're naked meeting.
- 10:15Speaker 2: I have to I have to answer you.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Like they said, you have a way of getting the
- 10:20Speaker 1: truth out of people. And although I'm ready to do that,
- 10:24Speaker 1: I'm not ready to be naked right now.
- 10:26Speaker 2: I'm not ready for it.
- 10:27Speaker 7: So that's honest.
- 10:31Speaker 1: So what the world doesn't know is this that happened.
- 10:34Speaker 1: This is a true story that happened the day before
- 10:37Speaker 1: Chantelle reached out to me.
- 10:39Speaker 4: Are you at somebody?
- 10:41Speaker 5: Yes?
- 10:43Speaker 4: Who was it?
- 10:45Speaker 2: Anyways?
- 10:46Speaker 4: So, as a former journalist's supposed to.
- 10:56Speaker 2: My point is this.
- 10:59Speaker 1: When I got the DGM from Chantelle, y'all know I'm spiritual.
- 11:02Speaker 2: So Claudia, wake up.
- 11:04Speaker 8: When I got the dream from Chantel, I said to myself,
- 11:08Speaker 8: here's somebody who doesn't know me, star being enough to
- 11:12Speaker 8: have its tense conversation. It still said I only want to.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Talk to you. So I sell that to say, it's
- 11:21Speaker 2: what you. Claudia does it and I do.
- 11:24Speaker 1: All we can do is be ourselves and and hope
- 11:28Speaker 1: that people walk away even understanding us. More So, Listen,
- 11:33Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that she reached out, and I
- 11:36Speaker 1: appreciate that for everybody who does say yes, because listen,
- 11:39Speaker 1: this is a tough business. There's a lot of podcasts,
- 11:43Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who do interviews, so I'm
- 11:45Speaker 1: never I don't take for granted where someone says yes,
- 11:49Speaker 1: because it's not always guaranteed.
- 11:52Speaker 5: I keep saying the seeing the accountability thing in the comments,
- 11:55Speaker 5: like they I would like to know, Like what more
- 11:58Speaker 5: did did did you?
- 11:59Speaker 2: Did you think? I think I get it?
- 12:01Speaker 1: Listen, Claudia, the reason why I was happy with the
- 12:06Speaker 1: way you eloquently spoke about it is I think people
- 12:09Speaker 1: want to blood.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation. Guess what, I get it.
- 12:16Speaker 1: We have never we have never in the history of
- 12:21Speaker 1: reality TV seeing a black mother and daughter have a
- 12:24Speaker 1: physical altercation. We've never seen it. We were all triggered
- 12:28Speaker 1: by it. We were all upset. We all were upset
- 12:32Speaker 1: about it, and I am we watch my recap of Dustin,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I said to Dustin, I said us.
- 12:38Speaker 2: When I watched it, I got emotional.
- 12:41Speaker 1: And I text Jackie because I know her, and I said,
- 12:44Speaker 1: I'm praying for y'all like this. I could not imagine
- 12:49Speaker 1: being a producer watching that on the phone.
- 12:50Speaker 7: I just couldn't.
- 12:51Speaker 2: A mother and a daughter.
- 12:53Speaker 1: I understand, Claudia, that people are angry. I understand that
- 12:56Speaker 1: people want to blood. I understand that people.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Claudia, you hit it.
- 13:00Speaker 1: I think people wanted her to constantly say it and
- 13:05Speaker 1: say it and say it. And I appreciate those who
- 13:12Speaker 1: watched the full two hours.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 13:19Speaker 1: For those Hey, Dustin, No, a lot of people were
- 13:23Speaker 1: leaving negative comments after thirty.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Minutes, so listen. I appreciate those. I love y'all.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Like and Dustin hit it. Dustin said, she said it.
- 13:32Speaker 1: She said, I'm sorry, she said. I'm not making no excuses.
- 13:36Speaker 1: I did what I did, I said what I said.
- 13:38Speaker 2: But here is.
- 13:39Speaker 1: What was my experience leading up to it. And I
- 13:43Speaker 1: also want to say this, and and this is not
- 13:46Speaker 1: what no Ona's talking about. That I can because I'm producer,
- 13:50Speaker 1: and that Qualitia can because she is a reality star,
- 13:53Speaker 1: and that dust can stand because Dustin is a historian
- 13:56Speaker 1: of unscripted television. When you have somebody that has been
- 14:02Speaker 1: on TV, that's okay. When you have somebody that's been
- 14:06Speaker 1: on TV for more than ten seasons, we all know
- 14:11Speaker 1: that there's certain people that got their faith. Their fans
- 14:15Speaker 1: love them, and they can do nothing wrong.
- 14:21Speaker 2: There is this fan base. And this is what somebody
- 14:25Speaker 2: said to me over the weekend.
- 14:28Speaker 1: They said, baby Jackie got fans, And I said, yes,
- 14:31Speaker 1: I think what you and I talk about. And Clauda,
- 14:34Speaker 1: you said this about Juice Dora. There's certain fans that
- 14:38Speaker 1: like the Vets or the Ogs. A new bee coming in.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Clauda experienced this. When a newbie comes in, you kind
- 14:46Speaker 1: of side more with the Ogs. And I think when
- 14:48Speaker 1: it comes to this interview, I think at the end
- 14:51Speaker 1: of the day, we're all triggered by seeing what we saw.
- 14:54Speaker 2: We've never seen it before, and we didn't grow up
- 14:56Speaker 2: that way.
- 14:56Speaker 1: We grew up with don't talk back to your parents,
- 14:58Speaker 1: and I grew up that way too. I think that's
- 15:01Speaker 1: one side. I think the other side of the look,
- 15:03Speaker 1: Jackie is a legend. She's look, she's one of the
- 15:05Speaker 1: greatest reality he starts of all time. Justin eloquently saying
- 15:09Speaker 1: our recap, he said, yeah, this is the first time
- 15:12Speaker 1: about Jackie's side, and he's a fan of the show,
- 15:15Speaker 1: so I think a lot of that went into it too. Well, look,
- 15:18Speaker 1: it's okay, nobody my thing is this the people of
- 15:22Speaker 1: the comments. None of y'all are wrong. It's y'all opinion,
- 15:26Speaker 1: just like Claudia, myself and Dustin aren't wrong when we
- 15:30Speaker 1: recap shows.
- 15:33Speaker 3: No, but schan Tail was wrong for cussing her mama
- 15:35Speaker 3: out and for pushing there. I think people just wanted
- 15:38Speaker 3: to hear her say that more plainly than she said
- 15:42Speaker 3: it in the interview. The only takeaway, and we didn't
- 15:44Speaker 3: talk enough about this shit right on. The only takeaway
- 15:47Speaker 3: I have for the interview that I wish she would
- 15:49Speaker 3: have answered differently is when you asked her about the
- 15:53Speaker 3: connect or she started speaking about, because I don't really
- 15:55Speaker 3: even think it was a question. But when she started
- 15:58Speaker 3: talking about her relationship with Denee and Brittany and she
- 16:02Speaker 3: started offering I guess what she thought was going to
- 16:06Speaker 3: substantiate their relationship. Well, we all got kids the same
- 16:12Speaker 3: as she used to date. This basketball it was just
- 16:14Speaker 3: the thinnest you know what I'm saying thread to connect
- 16:17Speaker 3: them at all, and it did not help her case.
- 16:20Speaker 3: That is one area where I was like, Okay, come on, Chantale, Damn,
- 16:23Speaker 3: come on, Banna.
- 16:24Speaker 7: Ain't there with Jackie.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Come on, Dustin, please say daughter.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Let me say my daughter. Okay, my daughter, me and
- 16:34Speaker 3: my daughter. Remember when they rolled up Andrea and Orlando
- 16:38Speaker 3: that time. You want to talk about my daughter?
- 16:40Speaker 7: D O T T E R. That's Jackie. Now my daughter.
- 16:44Speaker 7: I'm gonna talk what about your daughter? They said she's
- 16:47Speaker 7: a beauty. Remember what she thought?
- 16:49Speaker 4: It was gonna be hard?
- 16:50Speaker 5: Like being objective here because I have not been watching
- 16:54Speaker 5: basketball wives, I'm going to start.
- 16:55Speaker 4: Actually, when you have a relationship the daughter family, it's
- 17:02Speaker 4: so complex.
- 17:03Speaker 5: It's not as limited to what we have seen in
- 17:06Speaker 5: a season or two or five or even ten like.
- 17:08Speaker 5: There's usually deep seated issues that are from ten years ago,
- 17:11Speaker 5: twenty years ago, thirty years ago.
- 17:13Speaker 4: That are just unresolved things.
- 17:15Speaker 5: And a lot of times you go on reality to
- 17:17Speaker 5: me without squashing those things, and they're gonna come out eventually,
- 17:20Speaker 5: So we could be mad and be like, oh my god,
- 17:22Speaker 5: I can't believe she disrespected her mom or whatever, But
- 17:25Speaker 5: then we don't know what other things she's still harping
- 17:28Speaker 5: on from years ago, not to say right, And this
- 17:30Speaker 5: is this hypothetical y'all before y'all say I'm taking her
- 17:33Speaker 5: side over Jackie, I'll let me some Jackie, okay, and
- 17:35Speaker 5: vice versa. Jackie may have some unresolved things with her daughter,
- 17:39Speaker 5: and a lot of times, unfortunately, reality brings out the
- 17:41Speaker 5: worst parts of it. You know, if it's not squashed
- 17:44Speaker 5: before you go on, it's gonna come out on necklace
- 17:46Speaker 5: for a romantic relationships, friendships, you think you can go
- 17:50Speaker 5: on there and outs out produce yourselves, you won't. It's
- 17:53Speaker 5: gonna come out. And you know, I'm sure there's like many, many,
- 17:57Speaker 5: many incidents both of them can name where they were
- 18:00Speaker 5: hurt by each other, and it's gonna come out. And
- 18:02Speaker 5: when we'd be like, heyn, why did go left like that? Well,
- 18:04Speaker 5: that wasn't just about that day or that week or
- 18:06Speaker 5: that month or that year. That was a lifetime of saints.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And then Jackie is also very good.
- 18:13Speaker 5: At reality, she knows what to do, which that would
- 18:17Speaker 5: It's very difficult when you're in a scene with someone
- 18:19Speaker 5: that knows what they're doing and you're not. You're gonna
- 18:22Speaker 5: look crazy no matter what. But at the end of
- 18:24Speaker 5: the day, also, fighting your mother on camera is the
- 18:26Speaker 5: net and your mom's y'all swinging, Like swinging on your
- 18:33Speaker 5: mom on camera or real life is nuts.
- 18:37Speaker 3: I wanted Precious to fight her mama though. That's one
- 18:39Speaker 3: instance where I wanted to to fight them. I want
- 18:42Speaker 3: to po Mary Ass in that movie so bad as Precious.
- 18:46Speaker 7: I want to get her man. That's what.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Popeye's chicken at all. But all all just the side.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Thank y'all for watching it.
- 19:02Speaker 2: I love you guys. I love the comments, all ten
- 19:04Speaker 2: thousand of them.
- 19:05Speaker 6: Child.
- 19:05Speaker 2: And if you haven't watched.
- 19:07Speaker 1: A Chantel Christy interview, it is still up on my
- 19:09Speaker 1: YouTube channel, so make sure you watch it. Leave a comment.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I want to see what you got to say about it.
- 19:14Speaker 1: But all all jokes aside, thank y'all. And look, I'm
- 19:19Speaker 1: still praying for the healing of the Christies, like it's
- 19:24Speaker 1: I hope they can find some sort of resolve. This
- 19:29Speaker 1: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King, Let's
- 19:32Speaker 1: get back into the show.
- 19:35Speaker 2: It looks like there would not be a resolve when
- 19:37Speaker 2: it comes to Ken, Trisia, and Marquez.
- 19:41Speaker 1: So let's get into the most recent episode of Love
- 19:46Speaker 1: and Marriage Huntsville. So, as you all know, we are
- 19:49Speaker 1: back celebrating season ten of Love and Marriage Huntsville, where
- 19:55Speaker 1: we are three episodes in and it's already started off
- 19:59Speaker 1: a little easy because of the dynamic between Ken, Tricia,
- 20:04Speaker 1: and Marquez. So, for those who don't know, Ken and
- 20:08Speaker 1: Tricia are the newest cast members to Love in Mats Huntsville.
- 20:12Speaker 1: They're in a relationship. They live together. They're not married
- 20:16Speaker 1: because technically Tricia is still married to her high school
- 20:22Speaker 1: sweetheart Marquez.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Until this let me be careful so not give things away.
- 20:30Speaker 1: At the time of the episodes airing, they're still married. Okay,
- 20:38Speaker 1: they have two kids. Ken and Tricia live together with
- 20:43Speaker 1: her kids. Marquess is in and out of Marquess lives
- 20:47Speaker 1: in Atlanta. By the way, I saw Marquess over the weekend.
- 20:52Speaker 7: M what y'all talk about?
- 20:58Speaker 4: Where'd just them?
- 21:00Speaker 1: I saw him out and about in Atlanta.
- 21:10Speaker 2: No, you know what, you know what dust it, I'll
- 21:13Speaker 2: have Marquess tell y'all. Marquess will tell y'all what we
- 21:15Speaker 2: talked about. But what I will say is I was
- 21:17Speaker 2: happy to see him.
- 21:19Speaker 1: And what I will say is this it's a very
- 21:21Speaker 1: complicated situation. What we saw in the premiere episode was
- 21:26Speaker 1: Marquess dropping off his daughter. He got into a verbal
- 21:30Speaker 1: altercation or spat rather with Tricia's friend Sharon.
- 21:35Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, I mean, I just I didn't mean
- 21:39Speaker 3: it interject, but it just came in my head because
- 21:41Speaker 3: that was crazy. First of all, and I'm by no
- 21:44Speaker 3: means taking sides before anybody starts with that ship.
- 21:47Speaker 7: I'm just talking about what we saw in the television. Right.
- 21:50Speaker 7: That lady was completely out of line.
- 21:52Speaker 3: Okay, you only been friends with Tricia for four years,
- 21:55Speaker 3: that means you a new friend.
- 21:57Speaker 7: Okay.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Second of all, you don't have nothing to do with
- 22:00Speaker 3: none of this. So all that questioning and what does
- 22:03Speaker 3: she say when he walked in? She said something. She
- 22:07Speaker 3: started off by.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Saying he came in with and it's like, well, did.
- 22:10Speaker 7: You hear some Caudi or something like that? She said,
- 22:14Speaker 7: I'm like, you.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Ain't even in this, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 22:18Speaker 3: she needs to shut up. That's what she needs to do,
- 22:21Speaker 3: and she needs to stay out of it because it
- 22:22Speaker 3: don't have nothing to do with her. And she really
- 22:25Speaker 3: lit a flame, you know, pour gasoline on a flame.
- 22:29Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
- 22:29Speaker 3: In that situation that's already tense, already completely fucked up,
- 22:34Speaker 3: needs so much work, needs so much help. And here
- 22:36Speaker 3: she come with a Cassie haircut talking about some uh
- 22:42Speaker 3: she was sure hair was shaved on the side, talking
- 22:44Speaker 3: about some uh uh, just having an opinion, you know
- 22:48Speaker 3: what I'm saying, on some shit that she didn't have
- 22:50Speaker 3: no place speaking on.
- 22:51Speaker 7: I did not like that.
- 22:52Speaker 3: And Marquiz is a troll, Okay, a straight up troll,
- 22:56Speaker 3: and that triggered him in that way. And did hear
- 22:59Speaker 3: come the mess they could have gotten somewhere without her
- 23:02Speaker 3: ass And I just didn't understand why she was inserting
- 23:05Speaker 3: herself in that conversation.
- 23:07Speaker 5: It's yes, because of the TV show and because people
- 23:10Speaker 5: trying to make their marks early on, because I feel
- 23:13Speaker 5: like in real life.
- 23:14Speaker 4: No one would ever really do that.
- 23:15Speaker 5: In real life, I think people have batteries in that back,
- 23:18Speaker 5: especially New reality folks, but people do definitely want to
- 23:21Speaker 5: show off liver. But like you, feel like you have
- 23:23Speaker 5: to make something happen instead of just letting the scene
- 23:26Speaker 5: letting might happen.
- 23:27Speaker 4: I feel like she was like, well, let me just
- 23:30Speaker 4: be a little messy for the scene. That's one thing.
- 23:33Speaker 5: Like she could just chills and let him pop off
- 23:35Speaker 5: first and then jump in. And I didn't think if
- 23:37Speaker 5: you've been friends zone before years, I mean, that's not
- 23:39Speaker 5: like you just became friends, that's enough time.
- 23:41Speaker 2: To happen to you.
- 23:42Speaker 4: But nobody asked her.
- 23:44Speaker 5: Like you made it where your friend now has to
- 23:47Speaker 5: decide and she wants to have her homegirls back or
- 23:50Speaker 5: her exes back, and it's on camera, so everything's times ten.
- 23:53Speaker 5: Now he hows cameras they're let me match energy, so
- 23:57Speaker 5: I can't go out, and I like, no punk right,
- 23:59Speaker 5: So you got this and that's what happens because people
- 24:02Speaker 5: want to show off for the cameras.
- 24:04Speaker 4: That's what I kind of feel. I feel like it
- 24:06Speaker 4: was elevated because people will watch it.
- 24:09Speaker 1: I think you think it was elevated from marquas perspective
- 24:13Speaker 1: or Sharon's perspective or both.
- 24:15Speaker 5: Sharon first and then Mark has responding to her both
- 24:18Speaker 5: like you know, I am about to look like she's
- 24:20Speaker 5: punking me walking into the housepital my you know my
- 24:22Speaker 5: kids are?
- 24:23Speaker 4: I feel like she started it?
- 24:24Speaker 2: She did.
- 24:25Speaker 5: It wasn't major, but it was enough to like an
- 24:28Speaker 5: already tense situation, or don't take that much of gasoline
- 24:31Speaker 5: to make that flame go of higher?
- 24:32Speaker 7: True, she started it?
- 24:35Speaker 6: I did.
- 24:37Speaker 2: So then?
- 24:38Speaker 1: Could you know what was so interesting about it is?
- 24:40Speaker 1: Prior to that scene, you did see Ken and Marquaz
- 24:45Speaker 1: meet up one on one too.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead, Dustin, that was crazy.
- 24:51Speaker 7: Stop trying.
- 24:51Speaker 3: You got to stop trying with motherfuckers sometimes. You know
- 24:54Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This has been going on for years.
- 24:56Speaker 3: This is what we what do we call it in
- 24:58Speaker 3: our line of work at multi year pregnant shit right
- 25:00Speaker 3: that this has been going on between Tricia and Marcus.
- 25:05Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know how he is, Ken,
- 25:08Speaker 3: You know how he is too. Stop trying to build
- 25:11Speaker 3: a bridge and make an inroads where there isn't one.
- 25:13Speaker 3: Focus everything on them kids. They have beautiful children together,
- 25:17Speaker 3: by the way. Focus everything on them children, you know
- 25:19Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And just eliminate any unnecessary communication. You
- 25:24Speaker 3: can't make him change and be a different person. He's
- 25:27Speaker 3: exactly who he is and they know that by now,
- 25:30Speaker 3: so Ken banging his head against the wall trying to
- 25:32Speaker 3: figure out how to put a what do they take
- 25:35Speaker 3: a square peg? And whatever the fucking saying is stop
- 25:40Speaker 3: just stop. That was crazy to me that he went
- 25:42Speaker 3: and met up. I understand that it gave us something
- 25:44Speaker 3: interesting to look at. But again, this is the difference
- 25:47Speaker 3: between a television showing what would likely happen in real life.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Because I wish I be Damn you think I would
- 25:52Speaker 3: have set up there talking if I was Ken talking
- 25:55Speaker 3: to my kids about what you know what I'm saying, No,
- 25:58Speaker 3: we don't have nothing to talk about but this.
- 26:01Speaker 2: But this was so interesting, Dustin, so in real life.
- 26:04Speaker 2: So obviously after.
- 26:05Speaker 1: We take the reunion, we have like a couple of
- 26:07Speaker 1: months of hiatus before we.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Resume with this with with the with the next season.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So after that reunion, Dustin, what's interesting is they I
- 26:18Speaker 1: think Ken, if I got this mistake in Ken, let
- 26:20Speaker 1: me know, I believe Ken made the effort after the
- 26:24Speaker 1: reunion where they did get into it too, offered an
- 26:29Speaker 1: olive branch too to Marquez. And what was so interesting
- 26:34Speaker 1: is when we got back in production, he was like,
- 26:37Speaker 1: me and Marquez are working on being better because I think,
- 26:40Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of TV. You see your behavior
- 26:43Speaker 1: or you see your actions and you're like, you know
- 26:45Speaker 1: what I could have done better?
- 26:46Speaker 2: And I think that's the reason why Ken felt so upset.
- 26:50Speaker 1: When Sharon my sharing when Tricia told him how Marquez
- 26:56Speaker 1: did walk up in the house.
- 26:57Speaker 2: And just just so y'all know, Marquez was.
- 26:59Speaker 6: Not my.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Production we had. He was not miked.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Boom and the boom sound real good.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Yes he was we had so so for the audience too.
- 27:12Speaker 1: That wasn't a fake scene production. We had no idea
- 27:16Speaker 1: that Marquess was about to walk in. That scene was
- 27:19Speaker 1: strictly supposed to be about Tricia and Sharon discussing their
- 27:23Speaker 1: situation when they saw when they saw Marquess pull up
- 27:30Speaker 1: and with his daughter, they of course followed my rule,
- 27:35Speaker 1: which is you.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Follow the reality.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And he walked a been there and that's why you
- 27:39Speaker 1: saw Tricia like, I know, this did not just walking
- 27:44Speaker 1: in my house.
- 27:45Speaker 2: So it wasn't it wasn't fake. He wasn't Mike. He
- 27:48Speaker 2: was not Mike.
- 27:49Speaker 3: And that's why that day.
- 27:56Speaker 5: Just like like I would have reacted, I'd be like
- 28:01Speaker 5: more like stunning and someone came up in my house
- 28:04Speaker 5: than when I was filming.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Like like, baby, I would have been on my feet
- 28:08Speaker 3: so fast with my finger pointed, get the fuck out
- 28:10Speaker 3: of here. Outd have been so fast going off immediately
- 28:13Speaker 3: walking in my house.
- 28:15Speaker 4: I think it'd be a lot less issues. And again
- 28:17Speaker 4: I'm new to this show. If they gotta get that
- 28:21Speaker 4: divorce and too many weird stool attachments, like that's just
- 28:25Speaker 4: so weird, Like get that divorce done. You know you
- 28:27Speaker 4: got a new man there raising he says it, those
- 28:30Speaker 4: are my kids, he goes, but this is my family now.
- 28:32Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, I can see why marks
- 28:34Speaker 5: will be you know, triggered by that, Like that's gotta
- 28:37Speaker 5: be a gut punch like ough, Like I'm not the
- 28:40Speaker 5: house with the kids, but that dig that and that's
- 28:41Speaker 5: not your fel that's my family. So you got some
- 28:44Speaker 5: boundaries like divorce, get that, get that squared away.
- 28:48Speaker 4: I don't know who's holds who's holding up the divorce?
- 28:51Speaker 4: What's what's the hold up?
- 28:52Speaker 2: Dustin? Would you like to answer that?
- 28:54Speaker 7: So here's what I heard.
- 28:57Speaker 3: So, according to Marquez, Tricia and Ken inappropriately or issues
- 29:07Speaker 3: some paperwork that did not list one of their children.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Because I think one of the children is a minor, right,
- 29:11Speaker 3: and the other one is above eighteen. And the paperwork,
- 29:15Speaker 3: according to Ken, according to Marquez, did not have that
- 29:18Speaker 3: on there. But as we've seen this week, when they
- 29:21Speaker 3: was putting that paper in his face like this, that
- 29:24Speaker 3: paper had the child's name on it, and Ken was
- 29:27Speaker 3: about to push his finger through that paper.
- 29:29Speaker 7: He was so goddamn mad when he was it's right there,
- 29:31Speaker 7: it's right there. You don't see it. That's when he
- 29:34Speaker 7: was doing that.
- 29:35Speaker 4: He was there.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Because Marquez is a troll, and I don't know see
- 29:40Speaker 3: me personally, I'd have been like, so what are you saying?
- 29:43Speaker 3: Because I don't want to be married to you anymore, Marquez,
- 29:47Speaker 3: So please don't misunderstand.
- 29:48Speaker 7: Any of this.
- 29:50Speaker 3: I'm not omitting names in an attempt to stay married
- 29:53Speaker 3: to you. I don't want to be married to you.
- 29:55Speaker 3: That's what needs to be said. But Tricia has this
- 29:58Speaker 3: thing where she just gets in and she goes into
- 30:01Speaker 3: a back and forth and just plays off of whatever
- 30:04Speaker 3: the last thing the person that she's arguing with says. So, like, Claudia,
- 30:07Speaker 3: if you and Tricia have a back and forth verbally
- 30:10Speaker 3: and you tell her, well, I didn't like what you did.
- 30:12Speaker 7: She'll say, well, I didn't like what you did, you
- 30:14Speaker 7: know what I mean? She does that.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Instead of getting to the root of the issue, and
- 30:17Speaker 3: she's talking about shit. So that's what happened. So the
- 30:21Speaker 3: last time we checked, that's why they were still married.
- 30:25Speaker 4: Marquez is a little bit of a high head, A
- 30:26Speaker 4: little bit what you say.
- 30:29Speaker 3: I think Marquez has a he's a troll. He don't
- 30:32Speaker 3: mind stirring the pot if he knows it's going to
- 30:33Speaker 3: get on your fucking nerves, and he has an issue
- 30:36Speaker 3: with you.
- 30:37Speaker 7: So I think that's the kind of person he is.
- 30:38Speaker 3: I wouldn't say a hot head, because Ken was hot
- 30:41Speaker 3: in that scene. Carlos, why didn't we see the damn
- 30:44Speaker 3: fight too? That's what I'm tired of. Show the damn fight.
- 30:47Speaker 3: You can't drink. You can't drink us that damn close.
- 30:50Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying to it? We want to
- 30:52Speaker 3: see it. Can we please get a bonus cut, a
- 30:55Speaker 3: director's cut or something. Stop blacking the screen out, Carlos, Damn,
- 30:59Speaker 3: we walked, I get I get blamed.
- 31:02Speaker 4: This just putting the tip in and I'll give us
- 31:07Speaker 4: the whole shafting.
- 31:08Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, man, we're trying to welcome.
- 31:10Speaker 2: To my twenties. That's what my twenties was like. So look,
- 31:13Speaker 2: what I will say is this.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Every look, it's not my decision.
- 31:27Speaker 2: It's not I'll just leave that that.
- 31:30Speaker 7: It's not my decision. It's not my good.
- 31:32Speaker 1: But but but but but but I do want to
- 31:34Speaker 1: ask all something about this based on what you two
- 31:39Speaker 1: have seen in that scene. These are the questions that
- 31:43Speaker 1: were position on social media over the weekend. Do y'all
- 31:48Speaker 1: think that Tricia and Marquaz are still in love with
- 31:55Speaker 1: each other and that's evident based on what you guys seen,
- 31:58Speaker 1: and that can should move away from this relationship.
- 32:04Speaker 7: Claudia, what you think?
- 32:06Speaker 5: I don't know if I know enough say she they're
- 32:08Speaker 5: in love, but there's definitely still some feelings there, but
- 32:10Speaker 5: there should be had two kids with this person.
- 32:13Speaker 4: I don't know if there's still love.
- 32:15Speaker 5: I think Mark Kuz is showing that he's still a
- 32:17Speaker 5: little bit like he don't feel like he's replaced Mebuh.
- 32:22Speaker 4: That can't feel good.
- 32:23Speaker 5: Listen, you out the chicken coop and a new roal
- 32:25Speaker 5: cities in the chicken coop with your eggs. Old Lady
- 32:29Speaker 5: laying your eggs showing his cop You know what I'm saying.
- 32:37Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That can't worm.
- 32:41Speaker 7: No, Patricia said it was a hot dog.
- 32:44Speaker 3: Remember in the in the in the episode, she said,
- 32:47Speaker 3: he came out here this out.
- 32:48Speaker 9: Remember the way something box people in the nothing Are
- 32:58Speaker 9: we going to listen?
- 33:00Speaker 1: That'ster's on tour if you're in Atlanta August sixteenth. He
- 33:03Speaker 1: has a second show that's been added because the first
- 33:05Speaker 1: one sold out.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Yes, are you going to like this impersonation?
- 33:10Speaker 3: You know I'm an old school I am inspired by
- 33:13Speaker 3: the old school grades of comedy. I come from the
- 33:15Speaker 3: school of death comedy, jam and comic View and Eddie
- 33:19Speaker 3: Murphy Ross so hell yeah, and lots of impressions, lots
- 33:22Speaker 3: of physical comedy, lots of ship talking.
- 33:24Speaker 7: Yes, there will be impressions.
- 33:27Speaker 3: Absolutely, Claudia know she's Claudia has seen it yet.
- 33:32Speaker 5: The Negro's next. That's no left and right. Oh myth
- 33:36Speaker 5: They need to make a movie about him. Twenty Ways,
- 33:38Speaker 5: Bubble of Bag, mar Marquis Marquette, whatever, Homeboy and old Girl.
- 33:46Speaker 4: When guys, when you break up with your hand right
- 33:49Speaker 4: appreciates are so bad?
- 33:51Speaker 5: It's most likely the man's gonna find other woman before
- 33:54Speaker 5: the woman finds another man.
- 33:55Speaker 4: Especially when you have kids.
- 33:56Speaker 10: A lot of times, guys like you ain't never gonna
- 33:58Speaker 10: find another one with another and you got two kids,
- 34:00Speaker 10: fools that I'll watch you guys be liked when that
- 34:03Speaker 10: girl move on with some and someone else comes in
- 34:05Speaker 10: and let alone, another man comes in and wants to
- 34:07Speaker 10: take care of those kids too, or want to be
- 34:09Speaker 10: there for that's gotta be like that, does't you know
- 34:12Speaker 10: that's got to be pissed them off?
- 34:14Speaker 3: Well, didn't do your job and be more present and
- 34:16Speaker 3: so that he can be her man and you can
- 34:19Speaker 3: be their father. To me, I don't know, y'all know
- 34:21Speaker 3: how I have very rigid views when it comes to
- 34:23Speaker 3: like the way men show up in relationships.
- 34:27Speaker 7: I just you know what I'm shout out to Mika Smith.
- 34:30Speaker 7: I love y'all too. I love it. D I'm gonna come.
- 34:32Speaker 7: We just I'm coming. But anyway, he needs to step up.
- 34:36Speaker 3: See what you do is if you're a person who's
- 34:38Speaker 3: affected by things in that way, you eliminate the risk.
- 34:42Speaker 3: And the way that he could eliminate the risk is
- 34:44Speaker 3: by showing up and being present, paying for everything for
- 34:47Speaker 3: his damn children. Stop offering other people's food and drinks
- 34:50Speaker 3: to guests. You know what I'm saying, Stop doing that
- 34:53Speaker 3: coming up in their house talking about do you want
- 34:55Speaker 3: something to drink to this lady? Where'd you gonna get
- 34:58Speaker 3: it from? That's Kin's refrigerator. You know what I'm saying,
- 35:01Speaker 3: Like you can't. Markis got it. That's why I say
- 35:03Speaker 3: he trolls because I know he's aware when he does
- 35:05Speaker 3: those things. But if he's a man that's affected by
- 35:08Speaker 3: that and made to feel inadequate, which I think is
- 35:11Speaker 3: a lot of what we see, I think he feels inadequate,
- 35:14Speaker 3: and it's a literal physical comparison, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Ken is bigger and stronger than him, and he's showing
- 35:21Speaker 3: up handling your responsibilities.
- 35:23Speaker 7: I think Markuiz feels minimized in that way.
- 35:28Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and also think this too. I think
- 35:32Speaker 2: a lot of it goes to show that.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Look, when you have an a tense situation based on
- 35:39Speaker 1: the former well I can't even say former because they're
- 35:41Speaker 1: still married technically, right, And then you have Ken, who
- 35:45Speaker 1: obviously is in love with Trish, He's in love with
- 35:48Speaker 1: the kids, he's taking care of his mainly responsibilities.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Why do you guys think though?
- 35:55Speaker 1: Before we move on to Marceau and Maurice, why do
- 35:58Speaker 1: you guys feel though that?
- 36:00Speaker 2: But the audience is strictly blaming Tricia.
- 36:03Speaker 1: They felt like this is Tricia's fault and a lot
- 36:06Speaker 1: of them want Can to leave her and they don't
- 36:10Speaker 1: feel like can.
- 36:12Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they don't feel like Tricia's good enough for Can.
- 36:15Speaker 4: They always be blaming the black the black woman.
- 36:18Speaker 5: It's always her. It's our fault for every single thing.
- 36:20Speaker 5: When it's men acting up, Oh what did you do
- 36:22Speaker 5: to make him do that? When you get raped? What
- 36:24Speaker 5: was you wearing when you get beat up?
- 36:26Speaker 1: Oh?
- 36:26Speaker 5: What did you say that pissed him off? It's annoying
- 36:29Speaker 5: as hell, and I'm sick of it. I mean, I
- 36:31Speaker 5: haven't seen anything. Again, I'm new to the show. I
- 36:34Speaker 5: haven't seen the blatant anything, blatantly wrong that she did.
- 36:37Speaker 5: But I think that's just like kind of what.
- 36:38Speaker 4: Our society does. And it's not just other men, it's
- 36:40Speaker 4: other women too. And I don't know, I don't know.
- 36:44Speaker 3: I think there's two factors too here that do come
- 36:46Speaker 3: into play. We were introduced to Tricia. She was surrounded
- 36:52Speaker 3: by a lot of questions. Remember we were met When
- 36:54Speaker 3: we met her, she lied about knowing Martel, and so
- 36:58Speaker 3: a lot of people feel like Tricia is a liar.
- 37:00Speaker 3: They don't believe anything that she says, and so that
- 37:04Speaker 3: kind of places her in their scope when it comes
- 37:06Speaker 3: to playing the blame game, right. And another thing, Tricia
- 37:10Speaker 3: do look like she always sneaking, you know what I'm saying,
- 37:12Speaker 3: Like when she be in these scenes, tell her, you know,
- 37:15Speaker 3: she always looks sneaking, like she's sneaking doing something. And
- 37:17Speaker 3: I think that's what makes people feel like that, you
- 37:19Speaker 3: know what I'm saying when it comes to her.
- 37:21Speaker 4: So, so does she look sneaky or do you think
- 37:24Speaker 4: she is sneaky?
- 37:25Speaker 7: I think she looks sneaky, but so.
- 37:28Speaker 4: You could look sneaky even not be sneaky, right, I think.
- 37:30Speaker 3: She looks sneaky and I think she lied about how
- 37:33Speaker 3: she knows Martell when she came onto the show, And
- 37:35Speaker 3: I think that's a toxic combination when it comes to
- 37:39Speaker 3: people believe in what you have to say.
- 37:41Speaker 5: And then on reality TV there is no forgiveness. Like
- 37:43Speaker 5: we talked about her beginning, you mess up the one
- 37:45Speaker 5: one time, that's it. You know you are always going
- 37:49Speaker 5: to be looked through through that lens.
- 37:50Speaker 7: But Lot, that's why King friends want him to leave
- 37:53Speaker 7: her Kiv's friends.
- 37:54Speaker 3: He was like, you zoom out and look at the
- 37:56Speaker 3: whole puzzle, Like you got to look at the whole puzzle,
- 37:59Speaker 3: Like why are you doing this? Basically that's what he
- 38:02Speaker 3: was asking Ken, like why are you staying in this
- 38:04Speaker 3: damn relationship?
- 38:05Speaker 7: Yeah, And Chris Flincher sat up there not when he
- 38:08Speaker 7: was saying it. Chris Flincher was.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so I do want to I do want
- 38:14Speaker 2: to talk to you guys about this. Listen. The beauty
- 38:17Speaker 2: of Monday.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Night Live is the fact that this is live, this
- 38:21Speaker 1: is not take and you never know who's gonna pop in.
- 38:25Speaker 1: So Dustin and Claudia, look, look, there's a lot that
- 38:32Speaker 1: happened on this episode of Love and Matche hunts Bill.
- 38:36Speaker 1: So it would be remiss of me not to bring
- 38:38Speaker 1: on somebody to have a real conversation. Ladies jumped to men,
- 38:43Speaker 1: gaze and bathe and all the rain drops around the world.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Give it up for the man, the myth, the chocolate
- 38:49Speaker 1: in the bottle.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Marcel, Marcel, what's having this? Marceau all horizontally.
- 39:05Speaker 5: Okay, work and you are too far, like if you
- 39:07Speaker 5: can bring in a little closely there you go.
- 39:13Speaker 11: Like I'm sitting all the way now see you look
- 39:16Speaker 11: when Carlos says jump, I jump.
- 39:18Speaker 6: I'm just getting off the plane.
- 39:20Speaker 11: I'm at the the lounge and I'm like, yes, you
- 39:24Speaker 11: know so this Carlos when we say asked me to
- 39:28Speaker 11: do someone, I say, yes.
- 39:31Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Marcel. Marcell was just so so first
- 39:36Speaker 2: of all, Marcel me Claudia Jordan.
- 39:40Speaker 4: I think he did my show.
- 39:41Speaker 5: He did, Yeah, you did my show before out Loud
- 39:45Speaker 5: and I came to the lounge one time.
- 39:47Speaker 6: And himself, Oh you can't.
- 39:49Speaker 4: You went to black Yep with Fundy Neva. Right, it
- 39:53Speaker 4: was years ago, Okay, now it was.
- 39:57Speaker 6: It wasn't need but it was with some other people.
- 39:59Speaker 6: It was, oh god, what was that one? It was
- 40:03Speaker 6: out for play.
- 40:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he was there. He was there. Oh,
- 40:06Speaker 4: I'm old.
- 40:07Speaker 5: My memory is trash. I'm I've been crying all day
- 40:09Speaker 5: with my cat, so I don't know what's happening.
- 40:10Speaker 6: Sorry, oh you got a cat cry.
- 40:16Speaker 4: I had to take it. Dans had to put her down. Today.
- 40:18Speaker 5: She live, but it's it's I'm going it anyway, I'm
- 40:22Speaker 5: sorry's out the whole nother time.
- 40:24Speaker 4: It's about you right now. But anyways, hello, welcome.
- 40:27Speaker 2: To the show.
- 40:29Speaker 6: Hey not how are you? Hey?
- 40:30Speaker 2: Guys, and you and you know I'm Dustin already, So
- 40:34Speaker 2: what's Marshall?
- 40:36Speaker 7: I know I know that Dustin, You're good, chilling brother, chilling.
- 40:41Speaker 1: So Marceau, thank you for stepping into the lounge and
- 40:44Speaker 1: onto the show. So while I have you, and before
- 40:48Speaker 1: we get into you and your brother having an argument
- 40:51Speaker 1: over the Golden Child, I do want.
- 40:53Speaker 2: To ask you this question.
- 40:54Speaker 1: First though, you saw what happened between Ken, Trisha and
- 40:58Speaker 1: Marquez last season. We saw you talk to Marquez about
- 41:04Speaker 1: how you felt his behavior was and and you know,
- 41:09Speaker 1: not being there at the.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Time he should have been all those things.
- 41:12Speaker 1: When you watch the altercation that happened between Ken and
- 41:17Speaker 1: Marquez in front of Trician Sharon, what are your thoughts
- 41:21Speaker 1: and all of that that went down.
- 41:26Speaker 6: My thoughts are is that you know, when you get
- 41:30Speaker 6: people together, like you get one.
- 41:32Speaker 11: Side, you can get the truth, but you're always getting
- 41:36Speaker 11: different perspectives. And so what I understand about relationships is
- 41:40Speaker 11: that you know, when I'm talking to Trish, she's telling
- 41:43Speaker 11: me everything from.
- 41:45Speaker 6: Her perspective and what Marquez did.
- 41:48Speaker 11: And when I'm talking to Marquis, he's telling me everything
- 41:50Speaker 11: what Tris did, but no one's taking accountability for it.
- 41:53Speaker 11: And so I know we're missing a lot of the
- 41:54Speaker 11: story as far as what the did, what they felt,
- 41:57Speaker 11: what's really going on in the situation.
- 42:00Speaker 6: And so that's why to me, it's a little hard
- 42:02Speaker 6: to understand when.
- 42:05Speaker 12: You know, then this unfinished business there is For me,
- 42:09Speaker 12: I can see through the line of this unfinished business
- 42:11Speaker 12: when it jumps to Marquez and Trish, and I think
- 42:14Speaker 12: that's what we're getting the residue of.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Do you think that Ken and.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Do you think Ken and Tricia will last while this
- 42:28Speaker 1: divorce is still not finalized, or do you think they're
- 42:32Speaker 1: going to work through it?
- 42:39Speaker 11: So I personally think that they have their biggest issue
- 42:43Speaker 11: right now is now they have a crowd watching, and
- 42:48Speaker 11: so now they have they have they got a little
- 42:51Speaker 11: bit more at stake right now. It's easy to walk
- 42:53Speaker 11: a line, but when you put it ten thousand feet
- 42:55Speaker 11: in the air and change the dynamics of it, and
- 42:57Speaker 11: so now I think that it's hard to do this
- 43:01Speaker 11: when you're being called stupid, it's hard to do this
- 43:04Speaker 11: when you've got a lot of opinions, when you got
- 43:06Speaker 11: a lot more dms, when you got a lot more
- 43:09Speaker 11: people coming to you saying, hey, you know the you know.
- 43:14Speaker 6: The you should leave thems?
- 43:15Speaker 11: You know the you should leave them are present, They're
- 43:17Speaker 11: gonna be here, And I think it's hard to walk
- 43:19Speaker 11: that line right there and then it's hard to do
- 43:22Speaker 11: this sometimes feeling stupid but then being called stupid over
- 43:27Speaker 11: and over and over. I think powerful Ken, I think
- 43:29Speaker 11: it's hard for uh, you know, that's a hard dynamic,
- 43:32Speaker 11: especially in love.
- 43:34Speaker 4: Does it also make you fight harder sometimes, like to
- 43:37Speaker 4: prove than they say is wrong? Does that also help
- 43:39Speaker 4: you sometimes in these shows?
- 43:43Speaker 11: Yeah, when you're running while you're tired, you get that
- 43:47Speaker 11: burst of energy that lasts about less than one hundred
- 43:50Speaker 11: meters and then you're back to being dog ass tired.
- 43:54Speaker 11: And so I think that while you're doing it, you
- 43:56Speaker 11: want to say, hey, babe, back against the wall, me
- 43:58Speaker 11: and you versus the world. And he takes a couple
- 44:02Speaker 11: more episodes, come more being called stupids, a couple more
- 44:05Speaker 11: bullshit than you're like, hey man, what am I really
- 44:08Speaker 11: doing here?
- 44:10Speaker 7: You've seen a lot of people calling Ken stupid myself.
- 44:15Speaker 6: Oh yeah, broyh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
- 44:18Speaker 11: And because it's not because Ken's stupid, it's because Ken
- 44:22Speaker 11: is so short of himself with the answers. You know
- 44:24Speaker 11: what I'm saying, Oh no, no, no, no no. Remember
- 44:27Speaker 11: a hanging over with Oh Boy. It was like, oh, oh,
- 44:30Speaker 11: my wife doesn't do that. She doesn't like semen. And
- 44:33Speaker 11: he's like, okay, buddy, don't be that guy.
- 44:40Speaker 4: What do you think about him? What do you think
- 44:43Speaker 4: about Ken? What do you think about Ken?
- 44:46Speaker 11: I think Ken's a I think Ken's a good guy.
- 44:49Speaker 11: I think Ken, Ken is a good guy. Ken has
- 44:52Speaker 11: this Ken is going to meet he uh, that's my guy.
- 44:59Speaker 11: But he goes through the same stuff that that handsome
- 45:02Speaker 11: men go through later on in life, and medium attractive
- 45:06Speaker 11: guys go through earlier life.
- 45:07Speaker 6: You know, like I learned this lesson?
- 45:13Speaker 2: What do you mean that?
- 45:15Speaker 6: What is that?
- 45:15Speaker 2: Break that down?
- 45:16Speaker 6: Please? Okay? And I'm not saying this about that situation.
- 45:24Speaker 11: All right, I'm not saying this, but sometimes you can
- 45:28Speaker 11: be a great guy and just not her first choice
- 45:31Speaker 11: or she's not into you, or whatever.
- 45:34Speaker 6: Situation may be. You might have all of this stuff
- 45:36Speaker 6: stacked up right here, but it just doesn't.
- 45:38Speaker 11: Line up, and you don't understand why, because you thought
- 45:41Speaker 11: that the relationships were on you. You thought that if
- 45:45Speaker 11: I just be a good guy, then it'll all fall
- 45:47Speaker 11: in place. And you learn later on in life that
- 45:52Speaker 11: sometimes it's just you know, bad timing. Bro, You don't
- 45:56Speaker 11: think that right now. I think it's a tough situation
- 45:59Speaker 11: because you two people that like each other, but the
- 46:02Speaker 11: idea of that next step is tough.
- 46:06Speaker 4: Do you think she's settling for him? Like, like you
- 46:09Speaker 4: kind of give that analogy, Like you know later she's not.
- 46:13Speaker 4: He's not her first choice. Like you know, when we
- 46:15Speaker 4: get older, we're like, all right, we might as well.
- 46:17Speaker 4: I might as well get with him. He's a nice guy.
- 46:19Speaker 4: Is it kind of like that?
- 46:25Speaker 11: You know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fully agree
- 46:29Speaker 11: with trick Daddy, but I will say that settling ain't
- 46:32Speaker 11: a bad thing. You might want to make your decisions
- 46:34Speaker 11: while you're in your prime, and after you get into
- 46:36Speaker 11: your prime, you might want to start thinking about settling.
- 46:40Speaker 6: Mm. Well, of it. It's not a bad thing. It's
- 46:52Speaker 6: not a bad thing. Because no, I don't think she's settling.
- 46:56Speaker 6: I think that she's just not in the place right
- 46:58Speaker 6: now where.
- 47:00Speaker 11: I think she wants to have fun and the idea
- 47:03Speaker 11: of getting off this long marriage and this crazy roller
- 47:08Speaker 11: coaster and then jumping right onto another one is dang,
- 47:13Speaker 11: can you let me get a drink first, Let me
- 47:15Speaker 11: take a break first, let.
- 47:16Speaker 6: Me wind down. So I'm like, that's what that might
- 47:21Speaker 6: be some of that, But again.
- 47:25Speaker 2: Marcel, I don't know. I think that no, no, no, no,
- 47:30Speaker 2: I think the beauty listen Marcel. Always.
- 47:33Speaker 1: One of the meaning reasons I love Marcel is because
- 47:36Speaker 1: Marcel has a lot of wisdom and insight when it
- 47:39Speaker 1: comes to things, because he's able to see things obviously
- 47:44Speaker 1: from his perspective. And I think it's I think it's
- 47:47Speaker 1: an interesting dialogue because there is a big topic of
- 47:50Speaker 1: conversation about settling and when you do reach a certain age,
- 47:56Speaker 1: are you just happy to be with somebody that checks
- 47:59Speaker 1: the boxes of what works for you in the during
- 48:03Speaker 1: the life that you're living right now versus what you said,
- 48:07Speaker 1: like walking.
- 48:08Speaker 2: Or running while you're tired?
- 48:10Speaker 1: Am I am I going to risk losing something that
- 48:15Speaker 1: seems right on paper to go after something that forces
- 48:21Speaker 1: me to just continue to be on this roller coaster ride.
- 48:26Speaker 7: Do y'all think Ken is settling too, and.
- 48:30Speaker 6: And turloughs real talk like there's not a lot of
- 48:34Speaker 6: guys out there like Ken. There's not. There's not a
- 48:37Speaker 6: lot of guys out there like Ken.
- 48:39Speaker 11: So Ken's value is going Oh, I'm not saying Trici's
- 48:42Speaker 11: value is going down, but Ken is going up.
- 48:45Speaker 6: Ships drink.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Well, listen. I just discovered Ken on TikTok.
- 48:52Speaker 1: My algorithm found Ken and does to Claudia and marcel
- 48:58Speaker 1: I spent. I was traveling today and I'm reading all
- 49:01Speaker 1: of the comments of Kn's TikTok posts, and what I
- 49:05Speaker 1: will say is unfortunately, because Ken's in a relationship, and
- 49:09Speaker 1: I figure ladies are Jezebels for doing this, but our names.
- 49:13Speaker 1: There's a lot of women, Claudia in the comments telling
- 49:17Speaker 1: Ken to lead, Tricia telling Ken you're too good of
- 49:20Speaker 1: a woman, telling Ken dip this chocolate in my strawberry shake.
- 49:27Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of women who
- 49:31Speaker 1: is encouraging Can to leave his situation. And what I
- 49:36Speaker 1: do want to talk to and I want to move
- 49:37Speaker 1: on to you and Marion while I have you, mar So,
- 49:40Speaker 1: but I do want to raise this question. We hear
- 49:43Speaker 1: lots of times about how marriages on reality television oftentimes
- 49:47Speaker 1: in a divorce.
- 49:48Speaker 7: Right.
- 49:48Speaker 2: So we're not gonna talk about that right now.
- 49:50Speaker 1: But what we don't spend a lot of time talking
- 49:52Speaker 1: about is that reality TV glow. Right, What happens when
- 49:59Speaker 1: you the world knows you're in a relationship and you
- 50:02Speaker 1: happen to be a handsome individual and there's a lot
- 50:06Speaker 1: of women who want you based on them thinking the
- 50:11Speaker 1: woman you have does not deserve you. Did that happen
- 50:15Speaker 1: to you, Marcel once the show started popping and your
- 50:18Speaker 1: medium ugly status grew into being a handsome fellow like
- 50:24Speaker 1: your brother Maurice.
- 50:28Speaker 11: Well, Carlos, I will say this that I'm not I mean,
- 50:31Speaker 11: I'm gonna get beat up for this, but I'll pledged
- 50:35Speaker 11: Q the HBCU, all right, I've been popping. So this
- 50:40Speaker 11: this this this new world walk of fame, and righteously
- 50:44Speaker 11: I'm so happy that in college I was on that
- 50:47Speaker 11: same level.
- 50:48Speaker 6: So this doesn't this ain't new. But yeah, you get that,
- 50:53Speaker 6: you get a lot of d ms, and I wouldn't.
- 50:56Speaker 6: I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
- 50:57Speaker 11: I wouldn't like bro simmer down now because all of
- 51:02Speaker 11: that stuff that you think that you wouldn't do.
- 51:04Speaker 6: First of all, you know they would do. And and
- 51:10Speaker 6: it's not even it's not cuse worth it. But them
- 51:13Speaker 6: d ms do be dumping.
- 51:16Speaker 4: Really okay, I'm looking at some of my DM are trash.
- 51:26Speaker 2: They are.
- 51:27Speaker 4: They do not reflect I feel like my success level.
- 51:29Speaker 4: I'm a little bit offended on my dms.
- 51:31Speaker 5: I feel like Instagram is mess with my algorithm and
- 51:33Speaker 5: they put me in a weird space.
- 51:34Speaker 4: You should see my DM. I would share them.
- 51:36Speaker 5: It is very like, I don't know, it's messing my
- 51:41Speaker 5: self esteem. I'm like, I deserve better DM than this.
- 51:44Speaker 4: I a lot of mentally ill on my dms.
- 51:46Speaker 6: And of ill Claudia, Claudia not going back to trick daddy.
- 51:52Speaker 6: But but what I'm saying, I'm it's just it's.
- 52:01Speaker 4: You're saying I hit the walls. M h, you got
- 52:09Speaker 4: a back connection.
- 52:10Speaker 6: I think upgrade that.
- 52:16Speaker 4: I think Black needs to upgrade their WiFi. I can't
- 52:18Speaker 4: hate you right now.
- 52:21Speaker 6: This ain't Black, this is this is a Centurion lounge.
- 52:23Speaker 4: You talk to them, Oh them too.
- 52:28Speaker 6: No, but no, I'm not saying that you hit your wall.
- 52:31Speaker 6: Absolutely not. I'm saying that.
- 52:35Speaker 11: And the the more rare you get and the more.
- 52:38Speaker 11: Everybody ain't shopping for Ferraris. So if you are a
- 52:42Speaker 11: nice Ferrari or a bit ley or being.
- 52:44Speaker 6: You're gonna sit on the shlf a little longer.
- 52:47Speaker 5: Okay, I'm seeing a lot of comments from the rain
- 52:53Speaker 5: drops saying that on Ken's TikTok, he's liking a lot
- 52:59Speaker 5: of a comment.
- 53:00Speaker 4: We're they're saying he's single.
- 53:05Speaker 7: That's a Carlos question.
- 53:06Speaker 4: What do tail Carlos?
- 53:10Speaker 1: All I would say is we are currently shooting Love
- 53:13Speaker 1: and matrig Huntsville, and one thing that we do is
- 53:16Speaker 1: follow the reality. But but, but I do want to
- 53:19Speaker 1: ask you one more question, Marcel before we move on
- 53:22Speaker 1: to Maurice and you, what advice would you give Claudia.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Claudia is a beautiful woman, she is educated. Because Claudia
- 53:33Speaker 1: Cadia has well call you tell your own story child
- 53:36Speaker 1: to Marcel. Marceau has a lot of wisdom. Marcell has
- 53:39Speaker 1: been married fifteen years? Is it Marceau fifteen going on fifteen?
- 53:47Speaker 2: I'm sorry start this month.
- 53:51Speaker 1: So Marcel is going on nineteen years of marriage and
- 53:54Speaker 1: Marceau has a lot of wisdom. So I would love
- 53:57Speaker 1: for you, as a heterosexual black man and to give
- 54:00Speaker 1: the beautiful Claudia Jordan.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Any advice you think she may need. Uh, Claudia is single, Claudia,
- 54:09Speaker 2: I am single.
- 54:10Speaker 4: Choice.
- 54:11Speaker 5: I see my friends going through it on social media
- 54:13Speaker 5: and all y'all in the reality shows.
- 54:15Speaker 4: I have a lot of peace in my house. No
- 54:17Speaker 4: one is leaving the cap off.
- 54:19Speaker 5: The toothpaste, and the toilet seat is down, and my
- 54:22Speaker 5: house is spotless.
- 54:23Speaker 2: I'm good, it is, Carlos.
- 54:28Speaker 6: Okay, So no, I want to know.
- 54:31Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm gonna let I'm gonna
- 54:33Speaker 2: let Marce Claudia talk.
- 54:35Speaker 5: I do say that they do say you have a
- 54:36Speaker 5: lot of wisdom to comments, and they say you have
- 54:38Speaker 5: very strong views on women and all that, let's hear it.
- 54:43Speaker 11: But I would say this, I would say, and I
- 54:47Speaker 11: just know from the outside looking in, and so it
- 54:49Speaker 11: has to be a general perspective. But of course I
- 54:53Speaker 11: think that there are so many different attributes that you know,
- 54:57Speaker 11: a woman like yourself would have. I would say, don't
- 55:01Speaker 11: be afraid to open yourself up to the guy that
- 55:04Speaker 11: you wouldn't normally talk to, right, because he's kid it real,
- 55:11Speaker 11: all right, Men of a certain status, they're gonna put
- 55:15Speaker 11: up with a certain stuff. You know, and if you
- 55:20Speaker 11: want to, if you want to talk to a guy
- 55:21Speaker 11: that's a boss, a guy that's the leader, a guy
- 55:25Speaker 11: that's over his own thing and has achieved a certain
- 55:27Speaker 11: amount of success.
- 55:29Speaker 6: I continue this right now. He's normally used to saying
- 55:34Speaker 6: something and people replying yes, sir.
- 55:36Speaker 11: Right on top of that, rose okay. He's normally used
- 55:39Speaker 11: to his words achieving things. He's not a stupid guy.
- 55:43Speaker 11: He's not a guy that lacks ambition. But he's a
- 55:46Speaker 11: guy that gets what he wants because he goes after it,
- 55:48Speaker 11: because he's willing to make the sacrifice, because he's gonna
- 55:52Speaker 11: He's generally intelligent.
- 55:53Speaker 6: So that's the kind of guy you want. Well, that
- 55:55Speaker 6: means that you being of a you know, a great
- 56:00Speaker 6: and strung I.
- 56:01Speaker 11: Mean you have to fall in line with that, you know,
- 56:04Speaker 11: he that guy is not used to struggling with things
- 56:08Speaker 11: that he wants that he's you know, to.
- 56:10Speaker 6: Be successful poor. Does that make sense? No, it doesn't.
- 56:19Speaker 4: Saying if a man got something going on, shut the
- 56:22Speaker 4: fuck up, don't talk back. He is he said, not
- 56:24Speaker 4: nobody pushing back, and you be quiet.
- 56:26Speaker 5: You know your role, you know your place, and you
- 56:28Speaker 5: us if you want a man of a certain status
- 56:31Speaker 5: kind of right in that shell.
- 56:32Speaker 11: I'm saying a portion of that is, but I say,
- 56:36Speaker 11: exercise your femininity and that is the uh that that
- 56:42Speaker 11: that's what breaks down masculinity, the femininity, not paid up
- 56:47Speaker 11: masculinity from a woman. So one a woman that's alpha
- 56:52Speaker 11: with what they think is an awful woman that just
- 56:55Speaker 11: really's mouth that right there.
- 56:58Speaker 6: That's just like a guy, a guy of major status
- 57:00Speaker 6: talking to.
- 57:03Speaker 11: A weaker man versus the femininity is what actually breaks
- 57:08Speaker 11: that doubt in the guy. So that's what the guy's
- 57:11Speaker 11: looking for to a guy of that of the god
- 57:13Speaker 11: that you're looking for once.
- 57:15Speaker 5: The woman needs Oh, I totally understand that. I definitely
- 57:18Speaker 5: live in my femininity in the household. I will say
- 57:22Speaker 5: I will speak for a lot of women with this.
- 57:25Speaker 5: Most women, when they actually come in contact with actual
- 57:30Speaker 5: masculinity and not just loud mouth Boston, it's just because
- 57:33Speaker 5: they have a penis, would love to fall in place
- 57:37Speaker 5: or fall into the femininity and love to let a
- 57:39Speaker 5: man lead. I think a lot of times when women
- 57:42Speaker 5: don't is when they're not really respecting that man because
- 57:44Speaker 5: he may have shown some weakness or some bitch assness
- 57:48Speaker 5: or some lack of leadership and then they're like, I
- 57:52Speaker 5: don't trust you, you know, and I think you have
- 57:55Speaker 5: to like, you know, when that master man sees is
- 57:58Speaker 5: in his masculinity, a woman is gonna she's going to
- 58:01Speaker 5: be a support, a nurture.
- 58:02Speaker 4: When she doesn't have respective and see it, she's gonna
- 58:05Speaker 4: pop off.
- 58:05Speaker 5: Or that woman could also have some issues herself. Well,
- 58:08Speaker 5: I'm not going to say all women are sitting here
- 58:10Speaker 5: being perfect, because they're not. You know, there's plenty of
- 58:12Speaker 5: people that that you know, we'll see a good thing coming.
- 58:15Speaker 4: And mess it up.
- 58:22Speaker 3: In line, Claudia, do you how do from a woman's perspective, right,
- 58:31Speaker 3: how do you all wh if you see a guy
- 58:33Speaker 3: that is or if you start talking to a man
- 58:37Speaker 3: right and he has views on let's say gender roles
- 58:41Speaker 3: right that are really traditional and he's basically beating his
- 58:44Speaker 3: chest in an effort to say, you know, like my house,
- 58:47Speaker 3: my rules type shit.
- 58:48Speaker 7: What do women like you think about men like that?
- 58:51Speaker 3: Do you view that as them posturing or positioning themselves
- 58:55Speaker 3: to mask some insecurity or like what how does that
- 58:58Speaker 3: land on a woman like you who's successful right in
- 59:02Speaker 3: your own right?
- 59:03Speaker 7: You have all the boxes checked, you know, you have
- 59:05Speaker 7: your own home, you have options. You know what I mean?
- 59:09Speaker 3: How do you view men that show up that way
- 59:13Speaker 3: in relationship and immediately try to establish like a hierarchy?
- 59:18Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? How does that make you feel?
- 59:21Speaker 4: I always thought that men that actually have it, like, like, really,
- 59:26Speaker 4: whose house phone is that? It's easy? My house bowing?
- 59:29Speaker 4: We got a help phones.
- 59:31Speaker 2: I love it.
- 59:31Speaker 4: I'm not alone. You've got housephones?
- 59:34Speaker 7: No, that's my intercom?
- 59:36Speaker 2: Okay, oh you got Oh somebody have company?
- 59:40Speaker 4: Well let me make this that oh we lost them.
- 59:42Speaker 4: I will say this.
- 59:43Speaker 5: I think men that really actually have those qualities that
- 59:46Speaker 5: are that are actual leaders don't have to tell you.
- 59:49Speaker 4: I think real power is quiet.
- 59:50Speaker 5: You don't have to tell me because guess what, I'm
- 59:53Speaker 5: peeping you, I'm looking at you, and I will recognize, oh,
- 59:57Speaker 5: he got to go on.
- 59:57Speaker 4: This is a man, This is a man. I think
- 59:59Speaker 4: the men that are like I'm the man, I'm the man,
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: really not just like you.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: Know people that are out here saying I'll make moves
- 1:00:07Speaker 5: in silence. You're not making moves in silence. You're announcing it.
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: Like I feel like, you know, we're all smart enough
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: and perceptive enough to notice it. I love a strong,
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: silent man where I can just pick it up myself
- 1:00:19Speaker 5: and see it. You have me in check without having
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: to tell me you're about to put me there or
- 1:00:26Speaker 5: you go all listen at me. I'm gonna want you
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: because I admire you, i admire strength, i admire masculinity.
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: I'm attracted to that. I'm gonna be like, yo, you
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: gotta going on. I don't have to question him.
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: A lot of times we pop off like we don't like,
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: we're seeing you be irresponsible, not doing what you have
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: that you said you're gonna do, not being a man
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: of integrity and all that, So then we lose respect
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: for you, and then we pop off. And then these
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: men be like, she don't want to listen to us,
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: she doesn't choose not with her feminine. You're masculine, because.
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: Someone's got to be the man, and if it's not you,
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: fortunately we have to step up. We would prefer to
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: not have to be the man. No masculine woman got
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: there because she wanted to be. It was from a
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: lack of.
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: You coming there on your man.
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: Shit, you're gonna get a feminine woman, She's gonna fall
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: back unless she's mentally ill and they're awesome out there.
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: Listen, all the women.
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: Ain't perfect, but for the most part, I mean, I'll
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: fall back when I see you you handle things, you know,
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: you fix things about me telling you I don't have to, Like,
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: I don't know one wants the nag that ain't cute.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: I just think the notion of like people feeling like
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: a woman has to fall back quote unquote, and that
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: that's just crazy to me, because I mean, what are
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: we like, what are we saying here? Like when you
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: find a partner that works, In order for a relationship
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: between a man and a woman to sustain, the woman
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: has to shrink herself in some way and allow him
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: to be you know, I just don't don't.
- 1:01:51Speaker 7: I don't know. But I'm a gag nigga, So what
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: do I know? You know what my story a lot?
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: I think you know a lot.
- 1:01:59Speaker 5: And I think that that is a problem, like that
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: caveman shoot is for the birds, But that was a
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: system that was kind of set up like keep you uneducated,
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: just pregnant, just being there to be a thing of
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: pleasure for men and not really have a say. And
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: some men may confuse a woman having an opinion with
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: not being feminine, like you should just not push back
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: at all or not have an opinion. And I think
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: that's crazy. I do think that people need to check
- 1:02:24Speaker 5: how they speak to each other. Man to women and
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: women to man is not a one way street. You know,
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: if you love someone, you care about someone, you should
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: care about their opinions and want them to contribute to this.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what. So Marcel's Internet service was
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: messing up? Yeah, so lifted Marcel.
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: To masculine Marcel. Not so fast, a woman, shut your mouth.
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: He is back.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: So Martha, I don't like to are you going myself?
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: You can hear us.
- 1:03:04Speaker 6: I hope we're better now, Yeah.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Much better, much better, just in times.
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: So let's sten my burning I heard I felt claudy
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: and customed me out.
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: No, not at all.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: I don't.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: I don't think you're a problematic man.
- 1:03:17Speaker 7: I really know.
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: You've always been cool to me, and we've I've interviewed
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: you before. You you're cool to me. I like these
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: kind of conversations. I think like we should have one
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: of these conversations to each other, not just you and
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: your homeboys and me and my homegorls.
- 1:03:30Speaker 6: Wrong, you think I'm a big on gender roles.
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: Let's ask the chat chat. Is he what do you
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: think about Marise and gender roles? Is he a chauveness?
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: He listening right now?
- 1:03:44Speaker 6: Y'all think I'm not choven this. I'm not choven this
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: at all. I don't. I don't. I believe in gender roles,
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: but I don't believe in I don't believe one roll
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: is above the other.
- 1:03:57Speaker 11: Perfect you know, I believe in both are necessary and
- 1:04:01Speaker 11: two of the same roles. And you know, would you
- 1:04:03Speaker 11: rather have a car within two steering wheels and no hingine?
- 1:04:06Speaker 11: No anything has a role.
- 1:04:08Speaker 8: And if she plays part exactly erectly, well, let's talk
- 1:04:12Speaker 8: about the part you played in your brother's relationship with
- 1:04:16Speaker 8: his step son Jalen.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: That caused a big stir of social media. Marcel, for
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: the record, I.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Did do it.
- 1:04:23Speaker 6: Call over the weekend, let me do something, Let me
- 1:04:26Speaker 6: change my wife podcast. Y'all are breaking up on the side.
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: I see you that drink back up?
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: I see okay?
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: Are he ready for people in the like? Can we
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: move on? Claudia is not the topic tonight, Hey.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: Claudia, she's on the topic. She's Claudia is the only female. Hey,
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: pro Now.
- 1:04:54Speaker 7: She's always the damn topic.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was a topic. She's a topic.
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: I've had a rough day today. Okay, no, but no.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: A lot of people were asked you they could see Shelley.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: So you dig a lot of people who would like
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: to see Shelley before we move on, because definitely has
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: compand I want to make sure he has enough time to.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: By the way, justin, I enjoyed your interview with Michael Marquaz.
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: Good job, thank you, thank you very much. I love
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: Michael a lot. It's one of my dear friends.
- 1:05:28Speaker 7: So thank you. Yes, yes we will, won't we?
- 1:05:34Speaker 13: Yeah?
- 1:05:37Speaker 7: Hey, Shelley, what's up, Shelley?
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: Hi, Shelley.
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: Shelly's not doing well today.
- 1:05:43Speaker 5: As I took it to the bed, I thought I
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: had to put it asleep. She's only four point six pounds.
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: She her teeth are messed up. I think she has
- 1:05:50Speaker 5: a kidney problem. She's limping, and I have to give
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: her a steroid. I had to give her antibiotics and
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: I have to give her this something to make her
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: appetite come back.
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: I'm in the vet and that like basically.
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: Saying, what are you gonna do? And I'm like crying.
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: I had to call my ex to come down and
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: like help me with this decision, and I'm like, well,
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: I just feel like I owed it to her to
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: just try whatever little remedies I had that were available,
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: and if she's not better.
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: By the end of the week, I'll probably have to
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: put it asleep.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: Out of one. I'm sorry, Claudia.
- 1:06:21Speaker 7: I love you.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: She's love. Yes, we love you, and we're gonna pray
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: for you.
- 1:06:28Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:06:28Speaker 5: People on housewives, and I tell you, ever since this
- 1:06:32Speaker 5: cat was on TV, I found she started feeling herself
- 1:06:34Speaker 5: like a little bit, like a little bit er.
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: She's back.
- 1:06:38Speaker 5: She's had a great life in Shelley. I will keep
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: you guys updated. But thank you for everyone that's asked.
- 1:06:43Speaker 5: I know this is not the Claudia Jordan show tonight,
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: but I just sorry.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: My energy's a little down.
- 1:06:47Speaker 6: I've been.
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: I was in tears all day today because you know,
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: she's like my kid. I've had her.
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: She's better.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: Yeah five, So yeah, no.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: We love you, baby, keep us updated for real. Well, okay,
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: that's okay.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: I think Marcel is back. So I do wanna if
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: Marcel is back, like, okay, you good Marceau and the.
- 1:07:05Speaker 6: Wi Fi sounds so much better now.
- 1:07:07Speaker 7: So there we go.
- 1:07:08Speaker 6: There we go.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: No perfect timing because.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: The biggest topic of this episode had a lot to
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: do with the conversation between Maurice and Jalen, Jalen saying
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: that although Maurice is his stepdad, that you, Marceau, were
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: more of a father figure to him.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: When you heard that, did it make you feel good?
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: But did it also make you feel bad for your brother?
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: Yeah? It did.
- 1:07:40Speaker 11: I mean that's a it's great for you know, someone
- 1:07:45Speaker 11: like Jalen, who I love my nephew.
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: To think of me like that.
- 1:07:49Speaker 11: But of course I'm thinking about Maurice in that moment too,
- 1:07:54Speaker 11: and it's like, dang, you know, because I know Reese.
- 1:07:56Speaker 6: You know that that's that know that that's that's tough blow.
- 1:08:03Speaker 6: That's a tough blow when you come in and your
- 1:08:07Speaker 6: your goal is to come in and be the best
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: father you can be.
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: I think that people don't quite understand the step dad role.
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: And you know it's you know, my son m J.
- 1:08:24Speaker 6: I get stuff wrong with him all the time. Man,
- 1:08:26Speaker 6: It's like, but.
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: He gets he gets his WiFi wrong.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: To I think his phone's ringing.
- 1:08:37Speaker 7: Restaurant called black and so is the screen.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: That the what what do you think about that you've
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: been watching themself since season one? Were you surprised by
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: that too?
- 1:08:50Speaker 6: People they want to call you now and call you years.
- 1:08:54Speaker 14: But but.
- 1:08:57Speaker 6: It's tough being to dad. You know this, this is
- 1:09:00Speaker 6: my first crack at it.
- 1:09:01Speaker 11: And so thinking about Maurice coming in a situation where
- 1:09:04Speaker 11: you had to step up and he's gotta you know,
- 1:09:06Speaker 11: be a dan to a twelve year old who doesn't
- 1:09:09Speaker 11: know him, and he's figuring out his way to enter
- 1:09:11Speaker 11: in and figuring out discipline. And you know, that's a
- 1:09:17Speaker 11: self situation. I don't know if too many people that
- 1:09:19Speaker 11: walk in there and get that right.
- 1:09:20Speaker 5: Jalen feels that way with you because like you're not
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: the disciplinarian, so it's you know, you're not really in
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: the house like that.
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: So it's like it's easy, like it's easy to like
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: feel like a closer relationship with you. Like you know,
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: I've been not a step mom, but the girlfriend.
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: Right if someone has kids and then the daughter may
- 1:09:36Speaker 5: I may find the daughter like telling me that she
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: hasn't told her mom, right, because it's like, you know,
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: it was a little bit not as close to the
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: situations easier to talk to in bond with like a
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: cool like the cool adult that I don't have to
- 1:09:49Speaker 5: worry about getting in trouble with you.
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: Perhaps you know.
- 1:09:53Speaker 6: It's it's it's much easier.
- 1:09:56Speaker 11: It's easier to buy ice cream with you, and you
- 1:09:58Speaker 11: gotta buy milk, you know, and you can you can
- 1:10:02Speaker 11: come in to be the one that's always there for
- 1:10:04Speaker 11: the relief. You're not the one talking about filmwork every night,
- 1:10:08Speaker 11: and and and so. But also we have you know,
- 1:10:11Speaker 11: that's one part. But then recent I have different approaches
- 1:10:14Speaker 11: like my oldest son, but oldest son, my only son, MJ.
- 1:10:19Speaker 11: He's he reminds me a lot of Jalen and and
- 1:10:24Speaker 11: you know, and we have more of the same personality,
- 1:10:28Speaker 11: meaning that it's easier to I'm a guy that is
- 1:10:31Speaker 11: rationalize with people.
- 1:10:33Speaker 6: I'm gonna talk to you. I'm not gonna say get
- 1:10:36Speaker 6: up and do it now. I'm gonna let you know.
- 1:10:38Speaker 11: And even though you're gonna look at me and it
- 1:10:40Speaker 11: seem like you're ignoring me, You're gonna get up and
- 1:10:43Speaker 11: do it, you know, And I don't. I don't need
- 1:10:45Speaker 11: to assert my authority on you right then and there,
- 1:10:49Speaker 11: you know, Hey, man, that's what it is. And you know,
- 1:10:53Speaker 11: so it's I think I think it's a combination of
- 1:10:55Speaker 11: two things. One is that I'm an uncle, and two
- 1:10:57Speaker 11: is I have a different approach.
- 1:11:00Speaker 3: It seemed like Maurice was really offended by the conversation
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: when you guys were sitting at the table, you and
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: Letitia and Keimmy and Maurice were discussing it, and Maurice
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: initially like got defensive, like right off rip when you
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: guys started talking about it, so much so that it
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: became like a back and forth between the two of you.
- 1:11:18Speaker 7: Where you think that energy came from.
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: Do you think it's just because it's such a sensitive topic,
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: like and you know, like you expressed earlier, he wants
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: to be a good father and a great father to Jalen.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: Where you think that defensive nature came from? Because it
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: seemed like that kind of made it hard to get
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: to the root of the matter.
- 1:11:36Speaker 11: You know, I saw a couple of comments about this
- 1:11:38Speaker 11: Dustin and people were like, oh my god, now they're
- 1:11:41Speaker 11: talking about sibling rivalry and they gonna turn the family
- 1:11:44Speaker 11: against each other.
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. There's not a human alive
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: that ever argued fuss and fought with more than Maurice Scott. Right,
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: let's just make that clear. There's not a human alive.
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: And so.
- 1:11:57Speaker 13: That's not that argument comes from Marie ree world like, like,
- 1:12:03Speaker 13: you know, Maurice, I'm okay with it.
- 1:12:08Speaker 6: But here's the thing.
- 1:12:10Speaker 11: He doesn't do stuff that he doesn't think is right.
- 1:12:13Speaker 11: It is not going to intentionally do something he thinks
- 1:12:15Speaker 11: is wrong. And so when you come to him telling
- 1:12:18Speaker 11: them that it's wrong, he automatically disagrees with you because
- 1:12:22Speaker 11: he thought it was right. He wouldn't have done it
- 1:12:24Speaker 11: if he wasn't trying to get it right. So when
- 1:12:26Speaker 11: you come in and tell him that I think that
- 1:12:28Speaker 11: in his voice, you can see that the whole sarcast sy.
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: Well, he seems just a dad.
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: He seems just a.
- 1:12:33Speaker 6: Dad, you know, and that that that's hurt.
- 1:12:37Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought so too.
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: That's just hurt. And don't I don't want to be
- 1:12:43Speaker 6: like that.
- 1:12:43Speaker 11: But the challenge is it's like when you have to
- 1:12:45Speaker 11: tell them, hey, his hurt is Valley and you played
- 1:12:50Speaker 11: a part in that hurt, and he doesn't think he
- 1:12:53Speaker 11: played a part in that hurt.
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: I text Carlos after I watched the episode and I
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: told him. I wish Maurice would have told Jalen in
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: that scene, like, man, I love you and I'm glad
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: you my son. Sometimes you just got to say it
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: playing and Maurice was trying to offer examples and going
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: kind of around the world with it. He should have
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: hugged Jalen in that scene and just told him how
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: much he loved him, because that's what it seemed like
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: Jalen needs to hear at the time. But like you said,
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: because of Marie's intentions, right, and he thought that he
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: was trying to do the best he could do. That's
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: probably what caused him to be kind of taking a
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: back in that moment and started defending himself instead.
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: That's the one thing Reese is learning now.
- 1:13:33Speaker 11: I'm saying now, I'm saying probably in his last six
- 1:13:36Speaker 11: seven months, right, he was a quarterback in college and
- 1:13:41Speaker 11: he thinks that if he throws the ball right, it
- 1:13:43Speaker 11: should be a completion. And I keep telling them that
- 1:13:48Speaker 11: communication takes place in the mind of the receiver and
- 1:13:52Speaker 11: it don't matter what you say. If they don't hear it,
- 1:13:56Speaker 11: then it's not a complete pass. And that goes on
- 1:13:59Speaker 11: your that if they don't hear it. If they don't
- 1:14:02Speaker 11: get what you're trying to say, it don't matter, you
- 1:14:05Speaker 11: know what I'm saying. And his argument may be I've
- 1:14:08Speaker 11: said it word, you know, Brook, it don't matter. He
- 1:14:12Speaker 11: was a perfect English when they speak Spanish and see
- 1:14:14Speaker 11: where they get you right?
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: How did you feel when when I'm sorry, Goku?
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: I saw comments about people saying, you know, some people
- 1:14:24Speaker 5: want to just be right and not really like be listening.
- 1:14:28Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, do you
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: want to be right? You want to be happy?
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: And it seemed like he it is like he was
- 1:14:34Speaker 5: in a coming from a bad place, but does seem
- 1:14:36Speaker 5: like he wanted to be right, and you know, his
- 1:14:39Speaker 5: his point of view be heard, you know what I mean,
- 1:14:41Speaker 5: and like in his mind, like you said, if you
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: wouldn't do it, if he didn't think he was doing
- 1:14:44Speaker 5: the right thing already.
- 1:14:47Speaker 6: You know, I think Reese has lost in intentions versus.
- 1:14:55Speaker 11: I get I sometimes get lost there too, but get
- 1:14:58Speaker 11: lost in intentions versus is a results And the thought
- 1:15:04Speaker 11: that my heart was in a good place.
- 1:15:06Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to do that. I was trying to
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: make a man out of him. I was trying to
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: do this right here. I was trying.
- 1:15:11Speaker 11: I was doing the own RECEA. Ain't got no other
- 1:15:13Speaker 11: thirteen year old boys, you know at the time.
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: So it's like he is he does he doesn't know.
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: This is a guy that's taking a.
- 1:15:21Speaker 11: By the time a kid that grows up with you
- 1:15:24Speaker 11: is thirteen, you've been with him for thirteen years, and
- 1:15:28Speaker 11: so you know what you do on day thirteen.
- 1:15:31Speaker 6: You're given a thirteen. You're given the test.
- 1:15:34Speaker 11: There were level thirteen, right, You're giving that test right
- 1:15:38Speaker 11: then and there it says how you do and everything
- 1:15:40Speaker 11: you just is gonna be just on that. So it's like,
- 1:15:42Speaker 11: you know, it's like hats off to the guy that
- 1:15:44Speaker 11: can get there right.
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: Hey, where I'm sorry? Where's Dalen's father, his real father,
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: his biological father? Is he not in the picture?
- 1:15:54Speaker 11: I think he's in the picture, but like they're kind
- 1:15:57Speaker 11: of striking up some I don't know, like he's in
- 1:16:00Speaker 11: the picture but not in the the job.
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: I've never met him, but he Jaalen.
- 1:16:04Speaker 11: Talked to him and they've had some somewhat of a relationship.
- 1:16:09Speaker 11: I think that, you know, as he gets older, he's
- 1:16:11Speaker 11: you know, her as some stuff you got stay tuned.
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: For he likes you the best though either what he
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: likes you the most, I.
- 1:16:23Speaker 6: Think we're more.
- 1:16:25Speaker 11: I think if we lived under the same roof, I
- 1:16:28Speaker 11: think he I think that that might change a little bit.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: Well, one thing that that Tsha Tsiha did say this
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: on My.
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: Reality with the King Show and own that you know,
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: despite what people may think about you on television, mars
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: So they said, when it comes to the kids, you
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: are everyone's favorite when it comes to like.
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: The cousins, the nephews and all of those things.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Why do you think that it was hard for Maurice
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: to hear your point of view, to even hear Kimmy's
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: point of view, because I do think what people's missing
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: is Kimmy is his wife.
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: Kimmy is the mother of Jayalen. Kimmy is saying the
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: same thing, and.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: The audience does feel like Maurice isn't listening to be
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: to to hear them, He's listening to respond. Growing that's
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: your brother and you two are the closest out of
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: your siblings, so growing up, obviously, Maurice has always been smart.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: Do you think that what is disconnecting that the audience
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: or you or Kimmy may see for Maurice, is that
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: is Maurice just too smart for his own good and
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: he listens to respond like a lawyer does.
- 1:17:42Speaker 11: Reese, Yeah, yeah, I think that you have to the
- 1:17:49Speaker 11: he had. He can't see it, and he can't see it,
- 1:17:54Speaker 11: so he.
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: Doesn't he doesn't believe it exists.
- 1:17:57Speaker 11: I think Maurice, like I said, for the first last
- 1:17:59Speaker 11: six months of totally, I said, this is a new Maurice.
- 1:18:01Speaker 11: And I've known him for forty five years, so this
- 1:18:03Speaker 11: is not a thing, right. He has the inability to
- 1:18:07Speaker 11: see different He had the inability to see different perspectives
- 1:18:10Speaker 11: or even know that different perspectives could exist.
- 1:18:14Speaker 6: He said stuff like I wouldn't do that because that's stupid.
- 1:18:20Speaker 11: But yeah, the inability to be stupid, you know what
- 1:18:22Speaker 11: I'm saying, Like I wouldn't say that because.
- 1:18:25Speaker 6: That doesn't make sense, you know. So I think that,
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: you know. Again, the challenge is like I call it
- 1:18:31Speaker 6: a Reese.
- 1:18:32Speaker 11: World at a lot of times, and Kimmy finally saw
- 1:18:36Speaker 11: it and other people are five he seeing it and
- 1:18:39Speaker 11: Reese righteously now is that it's funny that he's just
- 1:18:42Speaker 11: he's just now in the area that he's even I've
- 1:18:45Speaker 11: seen some changes, but it's like I can notice change
- 1:18:48Speaker 11: from the tone of his voice when he says something,
- 1:18:51Speaker 11: even allowing someone else to have a different perspective. But again,
- 1:18:55Speaker 11: this is going back town kind of the the Counacs
- 1:18:57Speaker 11: and I have with Claudia, and to me, it just
- 1:19:02Speaker 11: reminds me of just like in order to be successful
- 1:19:04Speaker 11: as a black man in this world, you have to
- 1:19:07Speaker 11: be steadfast, You have to be stubborn, you have.
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: To be you know, you hear knows so much and
- 1:19:13Speaker 6: you have to prove so many people wrong that that
- 1:19:16Speaker 6: becomes a way of life.
- 1:19:18Speaker 11: And then all of a sudden, when it's time to listen,
- 1:19:21Speaker 11: when you practice not listening, when you practice tuning people out,
- 1:19:25Speaker 11: and now it's time to listen and take advice, it's like,
- 1:19:29Speaker 11: you know, that becomes more of a chure.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: Okay, well, there you have it. But my last question,
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: my last question for you is this. The episode ends
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: with Marie's calling you a liar and that's what you do.
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: Did that hurt your feelings hearing that.
- 1:19:56Speaker 11: Carlos, Yeah, it did it did. Because here here's the thing.
- 1:20:02Speaker 11: The one reason why I don't lie is because it
- 1:20:06Speaker 11: makes me feel like a coward, like who are you
- 1:20:09Speaker 11: that I have to lie to?
- 1:20:11Speaker 7: Right?
- 1:20:11Speaker 6: And so I said this in the comments and different things.
- 1:20:16Speaker 6: I said, Okay, do me a favor point out the lie.
- 1:20:21Speaker 6: If I've lie, I'm a liar and I'm always liing.
- 1:20:25Speaker 11: This name one lie that you've ever heard, Like Watissa said,
- 1:20:29Speaker 11: to give me no, I've never caught him in a lie.
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: And she's like, what, you've never got to your husband
- 1:20:34Speaker 6: in a lie in twenty years? Never ever? And people
- 1:20:42Speaker 6: and they say, well, and some people aren't liars. That's
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: just not my thing, all right, because it makes me
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: feel like it makes me feel like a like a whimp,
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: like like we to have.
- 1:20:51Speaker 11: To sit here and tell you something that it's not true.
- 1:20:55Speaker 11: It makes me feel like I'm not good enough. So yeah,
- 1:20:59Speaker 11: I don't I don't like that.
- 1:21:00Speaker 6: And he said, you lie about everything. We stopped.
- 1:21:02Speaker 11: You know, I don't lie right like Stopy and you
- 1:21:05Speaker 11: get but but now, of course when re sais you
- 1:21:08Speaker 11: lie about everything. Now everyone's in the in the world
- 1:21:10Speaker 11: is like, okay, reason's bothers filled the things.
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: You come up with this ship, bro, all right, Mark,
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: So if I'll let you go, there's one question that
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: we get from our super chants This one is directed
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: towards you, and I'm a life for you to answer it.
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: This is from DJ Lesia, who said the huspital streets
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: are saying that black is the headquarters for the cheating husbands.
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: But I love Marcel, he's a dub guy.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: It's black the headquarters for husbands who are cheating, otherwise
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: to go to and have fun.
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: Carlos, I don't, I don't know.
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:21:54Speaker 11: I think that blackness a great place to come in
- 1:21:56Speaker 11: here and smoke cigars and fellowship and hang around.
- 1:21:59Speaker 6: I mean, I don't, I don't know those the headquarters
- 1:22:02Speaker 6: for cheating husbands. That that's.
- 1:22:06Speaker 4: Husbands hang out day like that.
- 1:22:11Speaker 15: You know, ship cheated, the husbands unite, They're gonna form
- 1:22:18Speaker 15: boat tron over here.
- 1:22:19Speaker 6: They're gonna buy crying or something like like what do
- 1:22:22Speaker 6: they do damn head quarters from cheaping husband.
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: I mean, that's most of the guard bars of that.
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: But ladies, if your husbands say he's going to the
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: d R, that's fine. But if your husband's saying that
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: a boys are black, watch out now.
- 1:22:38Speaker 11: Watch out, watch out now, Carlos. I appreciate you having
- 1:22:43Speaker 11: me on man, We just I do want to do
- 1:22:46Speaker 11: the same as plugging about me being a terrible You know,
- 1:22:49Speaker 11: I've been a terrible dad for since season one, right.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: I know, I know, rolland Martin even called you out
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: season one.
- 1:22:59Speaker 6: He's a terrible day. It's because you know, my son
- 1:23:01Speaker 6: had allergies. But now we me and him. I just
- 1:23:04Speaker 6: taking him for a trip to uh to see the
- 1:23:08Speaker 6: Kensler Lamar in Rome.
- 1:23:09Speaker 7: So dope. That's dope as hell, Mark.
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: So yeah, we got a chance to go there.
- 1:23:15Speaker 11: He of course he wanted to see the Pantheon, and
- 1:23:19Speaker 11: we've got a chance to go up to Paderba to
- 1:23:21Speaker 11: see the original boundary of talking to the bottle.
- 1:23:24Speaker 6: We talked and everything. So it's been a really, really,
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: really good trip.
- 1:23:28Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: We went to Greece too, No no, no, no, Pantheon,
- 1:23:33Speaker 6: not the Parthenon.
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha.
- 1:23:36Speaker 15: I had to google at it too, because I was like,
- 1:23:38Speaker 15: I thought we were going to the Parthonon and I
- 1:23:41Speaker 15: was like, bro, it's it's it's seventeen hours away, and
- 1:23:45Speaker 15: it's like, okay, now it's the Pantheon, but it's it's
- 1:23:47Speaker 15: it's just amazing.
- 1:23:48Speaker 6: It was a dope trip, man, So I feel real
- 1:23:50Speaker 6: good about that. Coming back in and so.
- 1:23:54Speaker 7: You go see where they make the wine. You go
- 1:23:56Speaker 7: see what they make the wine.
- 1:23:59Speaker 6: I I think I know where they make that.
- 1:24:03Speaker 14: Okay, you are really a story and he really is.
- 1:24:10Speaker 14: I'd be like, oh gosh, that's the Qualitia. That's Martel
- 1:24:17Speaker 14: holds wine that.
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, that's what that was. That's what that was.
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: But no, but Marcel, listen, thanks for taking time out.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: Marcel just got back from Italy. He took his son
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: on a father son trip. As he just said, so listen,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: you are a great man. You are a great father,
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: and you are a great reality star. And listen, your
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: great husband too. So I appreciate you, Marcel, and I
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: will see you soon. Thanks for coming, Marshall, taking Marcel.
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: He clicked off. Fancy make sure we and the Wi
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: Fi the glass was more full.
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: See that.
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: I'm not mad at I need something for today's shoot.
- 1:25:10Speaker 7: Yo.
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: No, but listen, thanks for calling. You'll know you're going
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: through a lot this week. Thanks for even showing up.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: Thanks to do this. Now listen, I hope we were
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: able to distract you at least for.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: Ninety minutes and put us smile on your face and
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: keep us updating all things Shelley.
- 1:25:28Speaker 4: Yes, I will thank you a pleasure.
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: As always, Reality with the King is executive produced by
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: with the Lack Effect Network. You can also find us
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore