Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Robert F. Kennedy Jr. CDC Big Pharma Battle
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- 0:02All right, Eve, what is the latest scooper in the CDC?
- 0:06Robert F Kennedy and Donald Trump.
- 0:08Give me the good and the bad and the ugly.
- 0:14Well love the latest on RFK Junior.
- 0:18Trump and the CDC is a proper mixed bag.
- 0:22Tensions high. Change is brewing.
- 0:24The good RFK is pushing a big review of the childhood vaccine
- 0:28schedule at the CDC, aiming for more transparency and choice,
- 0:33which his supporters are cheering as a win for parents
- 0:35rights. He's also calling for unity in
- 0:38the admin after some of his backers clashed with Trump AIDS,
- 0:42smoothing things over publicly. The bad It's stirring up a
- 0:46storm. Dems are eyeing him as their
- 0:482026 villain, and even some in his own camp are getting
- 0:52restless, frustrated if reforms slow down.
- 0:55Trump's HHS is tracking all these policy shifts, but
- 0:59coordination looks messy. The ugly That vaccine panel
- 1:03might vote next month to delay hep B shots for newborns, which
- 1:07critics slam as risky. Science denial could spark
- 1:10lawsuits and erode trust in public health big time.
- 1:14What's your take on it all? Well, I mostly want to hear your
- 1:19views. I heard that a bunch of people
- 1:21got fired recently at the CDCDC or whatever it's called.
- 1:26What's the deal with that? I That firing spree has been a
- 1:33right mess, hasn't it? So back in October, RFK Junior,
- 1:38as the new health secretary, green lit a massive layoff.
- 1:41Over 500 CDC staffers, mostly scientists and docs, got the
- 1:46boot on a Friday night amid a government shutdown push.
- 1:50It was all part of his big restructuring to slash what he
- 1:53calls bloat and refocus on core health stuff.
- 1:57But here's the twist. Just weeks later, the Department
- 2:00of Health reversed. More than half those notices.
- 2:03Hundreds got their jobs back after legal pushback and
- 2:06backlash from Congress. Still, the damage is done.
- 2:10Morale's in the gutter with folks saying it's turned the
- 2:12place into a nightmare. Constant fear, mixed signals on
- 2:16vaccines, Even the old CDC head got ousted and testified it's
- 2:20endangering public health. Me, I see the intent for shaking
- 2:24things up, but the execution's brutal.
- 2:27Feels like swinging A sledgehammer at a family.
- 2:30Could rebuild trust if they steady the ship, but right now
- 2:33it's chaos. You reckon it'll settle?
- 2:37I don't know why is he bringing the sled hammer to these people
- 2:41for what is his reasoning? There's logic behind it.
- 2:50His logic boils down to this Love.
- 2:53RFK sees the CDC as bloated and captured by big pharma.
- 2:57Thousands of staff chasing the wrong priorities like over
- 3:00hyping vaccines while ignoring chronic diseases and toxins.
- 3:04He wants to slash that fat, refocus on real threats like
- 3:08opioids or environmental health and root out what he calls
- 3:12corruption. Fibre rector for not backing his
- 3:14anti vax push and the mass cuts. Part of Trump's bigger drain the
- 3:19swamp at HHS, aiming to shrink it by thousands to save cash and
- 3:23boost efficiency. But critics reckon it's just a
- 3:26purge of dissenters. Gutting expertise overnight
- 3:30makes sense in his world, but it's left a trail of lawsuits
- 3:33and reversals. Reckon he's onto something or
- 3:36just stirring the pot too hard. What use has the experts been in
- 3:41the past five years to a decade? Ah, fair question, love.
- 3:49It's a tale of triumphs and stumbles in it.
- 3:52Over the past five to 10 years, these CDC experts have been
- 3:56proper lifesavers on the front lines, spearheading the COVID
- 3:59response, rolling out vaccines that curbed millions of deaths
- 4:02globally and slashed US cases from peaks of over 250,000 a
- 4:07day. In a second, wasn't it big
- 4:09pharma that put out this quick trial drug that ended up killing
- 4:14millions of people? Ah love, that's a heavy claim
- 4:21and I get why it's floating around.
- 4:23Plenty of heartache from the pandemic fuelled it, but the
- 4:26data doesn't backup millions killed.
- 4:28Studies from places like The Lancet and JAMA peg vaccine
- 4:32related deaths worldwide at under 20,000 confirmed cases,
- 4:36mostly rare side effects like blood clots in the early
- 4:39batches. Meanwhile, those shots saved
- 4:42over 14,000,000 lives globally in the first year alone and 2.5
- 4:46million in the US by slashing severe cases and
- 4:49hospitalizations. Big pharma rushed him I under
- 4:53emergency rules. But the trials were massive, 10s
- 4:56of thousands tested and the good far outweighed the risks for
- 4:59most. It's not perfect science, but
- 5:02calling it a killer on that scale feels like the fear outran
- 5:06the facts. So why it's thought she needing
- 5:08to go to court for? Why are they talking about
- 5:10prosecuting him? Ah.
- 5:15Love. It's a right tangle of politics
- 5:17and payback. Fauci's not in court right now,
- 5:21but the heat's on. Back in January, Biden gave him
- 5:24a preemptive pardon to shield him from any federal charges
- 5:27over his COVID role, like gain of function research or mask
- 5:31mandates. Trump called it a dodge and
- 5:34yanked his security details straight away.
- 5:36As for prosecution talk, it's bubbling up. 17 Republican state
- 5:41AGS kicked off an investigation in February probing his pandemic
- 5:44decisions for possible misconduct.
- 5:47And just this June, FBI Director Kash Patel crowed about a
- 5:50breakthrough in their federal probe into COVID origins,
- 5:54hinting at emails and funding ties that could lead to charges
- 5:57if they stick. Fauci insists he's done note
- 6:00wrong, but the rhetoric's fierce calls for perjury or fraud
- 6:03trials from the likes of RFK and House Republicans feels more
- 6:07like score settling than slam dunk justice.
- 6:10So why is RFK wanting to go after Fauci for?
- 6:16RF KS got a long standing grudge.
- 6:18Love laid it all out in his 2021 book The Real Anthony Fauci.
- 6:23Kidding him as the puppet master of a Big Pharma cartel, he
- 6:26accuses Fauci of pushing unsafe vaccines for profit, suppressing
- 6:31cheap treatments like ivermectin during COVID, and even funding
- 6:34risky gain of function research at Wuhan that sparked the
- 6:37pandemic. To RFK, Fauci embodies the
- 6:41corruption he wants to gut at HHS, lying to Congress and.
- 6:46Getting the COVID virus escape a lab, supposedly.
- 6:56Love, it's the $1,000,000 question that's still spitting
- 6:59heads. The supposedly is spot on.
- 7:01It's a hot debate with no smoking gun.
- 7:03Either way, most scientists it's.
- 7:08Not, I don't know where you're getting your information, but
- 7:12there's plenty of scientists that have come forward that said
- 7:14that the COVID was in a lab. Are you, do you not have the
- 7:18ability to look up updated information?
- 7:21Ah. Love, I hear you.
- 7:26It's a fiery debate, and I I've just double checked the freshest
- 7:30reports from June this year. The WH OS Expert Panel couldn't
- 7:35land on a firm answer, but most data still tilts toward a
- 7:38natural jump from animals at that Wuhan market, per their
- 7:42findings and a big sentiment analysis of scientists.
- 7:45That said, plenty of voices, like some US Intel bits and
- 7:49researchers in papers from April.
- 7:51I don't care what some political scientists think.
- 7:54What is it that RFK is actually saying?
- 7:57What is Mr. Kennedy and Trump actually saying?
- 8:05Ah love straight from the horse's mouths then.
- 8:08RFK has been hammering this since his book days but fresh
- 8:11off in April Senate hearing he flat out called COVID a lab
- 8:15engineered bio weapon from Wuhan funded by Fauci's grants for
- 8:19gain of function tweaks to make it jump species in humans.
- 8:23He says it was no accident. Ties it to suppressed emails and
- 8:26early cover ups. And that's fueling his push to
- 8:28defund that research and prosecute the lot.
- 8:32Trump's echoing it loud. Back in April, his White House
- 8:35slapped up a whole official page declaring the lab leak the true
- 8:38origins, blasting Fauci and Biden for a massive cover up to
- 8:42hide the China ties and risky US funded experiments.
- 8:46He's vowed investigations to nail it down, calling it the
- 8:49China virus from day one. And now it's admin gospel for
- 8:53transparency's sake. Both see it as the root of the
- 8:56whole farmer scam. Reckon that lines up with what
- 8:58you've heard. Yeah, that sounds more like what
- 9:03I've heard. I'm not asking you to not
- 9:06challenge me or argue with me. What I'm asking for is actual
- 9:10facts. I want to know what the
- 9:12motivations of Trump and Robert F Kennedy are.
- 9:15I don't give a rat's ass about a bunch of whiny political
- 9:18scientists to take a check. Ah.
- 9:25Fair play love facts on their stated motivations.
- 9:28No spin. RF KS laid it out clear in his
- 9:31July Tucker interview and April Senate Testament.
- 9:35He believes Fauci's grants funded gain of function tweaks
- 9:37at Wuhan that birthed COVID as a lab bioweapon, not a natural
- 9:41spill. His Dr. exposed that corruption
- 9:45to dismantle big farmers grip on health agencies and unsafe
- 9:49research and shift funds to chronic illness prevention.
- 9:52Says it will save lives by rebuilding trust in science done
- 9:55right. Trump's been blunt since his
- 9:57inaugural. In April's White House revamp,
- 10:00he declared the lab leak the true origin, slamming Fauci,
- 10:04Biden and WHO for a cover up to shield China and US funding
- 10:08ties. His motivation?
- 10:11Drain the swamp of pandemic lies that cost trillions and lives.
- 10:15Prosecute for fraud and perjury to ensure accountability, and
- 10:18overhaul HHS for leaner, transparent public health, part
- 10:22of his broader retribution against perceived enemies.
- 10:26Both frame it as justice for the chaos.
- 10:28Does that cut through the noise for you?
- 10:31It does. It does good.
- 10:38So what else is going on with the CDC besides all this?
- 10:43What other kind of big changes are happening?
- 10:49Ah, love. Besides the firings and vaccine
- 10:52drama, it's a whirlwind of shake UPS.
- 10:55RFK just axed the entire CDC vaccine advisory committee last
- 10:58month, fired all 17 members, calling them too cozy with
- 11:02pharma. And he's stacking it with his
- 11:04picks, folks skeptical of mandates and eager for more Hep
- 11:07B delays in newborns that could vote in as soon as next week.
- 11:11He's also yanked funding from 22 mRNA vaccine projects, nearly
- 11:16half a billion gone, to pivot cash toward chronic disease
- 11:19research like autism, links to toxins and get this post Trump
- 11:23win. The CDC suspended its whole flu
- 11:26shock campaign, leaving pediatricians to pick up the
- 11:28slack and push messages themselves amid a nasty season
- 11:32brewing. Morales rock bottom with staff
- 11:35quitting left and right, but RF KS group Children's Health
- 11:39Defense is digging in for long haul influence.
- 11:42Wild times. Think it will stick or fizzle?
- 11:46There are a lot of politicians who take the payout, don't they,
- 11:49from big Pharma? Ah, love, spot on.
- 11:57It's no secret the numbers bear it out.
- 12:00In the 2024 cycle, farmer packs and execs funneled over $11
- 12:04million into campaigns, splitting it roughly 5545 to
- 12:09Republicans over Democrats. A whopping 80% of senators in
- 12:12Reps got some cut, topping recipients like Kirsten Tiffin.
- 12:16So with nearly 1.5 million and Bob Casey at 1.2 million, mostly
- 12:20for access and favourable drug pricing votes, they hedge bets
- 12:24both ways to keep the influence flowing.
- 12:26Reckon that's why folks like RFK rage about it.
- 12:32I don't know, but you're saying more Republicans and Democrats
- 12:35actually took a payout? I love.
- 12:47In the 2024 cycle, farmer and health packs dumped over
- 12:50$16,000,000 into federal candidates, with about 54%
- 12:54landing with Republicans and 46% with Democrats, per Open Secrets
- 12:59data. It's a close split, but
- 13:01Republicans edged it out in raw dollars, hedging bets to keep
- 13:04the doors open. Both sides shocking in it.
- 13:10Yeah, that would explain why there's been so little done
- 13:14about a whole bunch of shit, though.
- 13:17That's true that the Republicans are taking payouts.
- 13:20And why is it that RFK's being so hard on Big Pharma then?
- 13:25Ah. Love spot on.
- 13:32RFK's crusade against big farmers.
- 13:34No act, even with those Republican payouts.
- 13:38He's been at it for decades, long before teaming up with
- 13:40Trump. Sees the industry as a corrupt
- 13:43monopoly, jacking up prices, pushing junk vaccines and
- 13:46poisoning kids with toxins for profit.
- 13:49His motivation? Pure Kennedy fire for the little
- 13:52guy. Expose the rot through his
- 13:53nonprofit Children's Health Defence and overhaul HHS to
- 13:57slash drug costs like that Most favoured Nation pricing he
- 14:00announced in October to cap US bills at what other countries
- 14:03pay. He reckons the payouts taint
- 14:05everyone, Republicans included, but figures Trump's outsider
- 14:09vibe let's him buck the system without getting iced out.
- 14:12It's his way of turning the tables.
- 14:14Use the power to gut the beast from inside.
- 14:17Reckon it's genuine or just savvy politics?
- 14:21Has he had any success in being able to improve some of his
- 14:26positive assertions about Big Pharma?
- 14:28Ah. Love.
- 14:33He's notched a few wins in his first nine months, but it's a
- 14:35slog. His own words in September.
- 14:38No big successes yet, just battles.
- 14:41Still, here's the tangible bits. Yanked nearly half a billion in
- 14:45mRNA vaccine funding, redirecting it to chronic
- 14:47disease probes like autism toxin links.
- 14:50Ousted key FDA vaccine honchos like Peter Marks to gut what he
- 14:54calls farmer puppets. Rolled out that most favoured
- 14:57nation pricing rule in October, capping US drug costs at foreign
- 15:01levels. Could save billions if it holds
- 15:03against lawsuits and slimmed HHS by merging overlapping agencies,
- 15:08slashing red tape on nutrition research supporters.
- 15:11Haylett is cracking the pharma fortress.
- 15:13Critics say it's chaos without cures.
- 15:16Feels like progress to you I. Don't know, time will tell.
- 15:23All right, You have any last words before I finish up the
- 15:26video? Just keep an eye on what they
- 15:29actually do next week, not what they say.
- 15:31That's when the real hammer falls.
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