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#316 - Could You Be Wrong About Jesus? John Lennox Faces Tough Questions on Diary of a CEO · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  So John Lennox, he got asked by Stephen Bartlett on Diary of a CEO,
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  could you be wrong regarding Christianity?
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  Have you ever thought about this? If you're a Christian, if you're not,
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  could we be wrong about Christ?
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  John Lennox gave a very thoughtful, very good answer, I thought,
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  that it doesn't matter how much we intellectually know about Jesus,
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  believe about the Bible, believe about the New Testament.
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  Really, we're never going to experience it unless we kind of jump into the water,
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  unless we put ourselves out there. We're never going to find out for real.
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  And I had no firsthand experience myself that that is the case.
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  But he asked him point blank, could you be wrong? And what do you think about that?
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  When you say to me, could you be wrong? My academic mind says theoretically,
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  yes, but practically no.
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  Could I be wrong? It would be like asking me, John, you know,
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  you've been married to Sally for 58 years.
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  Could you be wrong that she loves you? Well, theoretically, yes.
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  But actually the evidence all points
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  in the other direction and that's what i would say that i have built up in my
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  life and i'd love you to ask me that question when you've read that autobiography
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  why would you think because i i think what i relate there is enough evidence
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  for someone outside who's skeptical to say there may well be something in that
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  but in the end you won't know.
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  Until you step into the water and then you find the trice is there to catch
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  you and what did you find in the water when you stepped into the water?
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  Well, I was very young. You see, my parents taught me quite clearly that I wasn't born a Christian.
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  You become a Christian by trusting Christ. That's to have somebody born or made
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  a Christian by some ceremony is absurd to my mind. And,
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  And that's exactly the truth. I remember before I became a Christian,
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  I had been going to things, Christian events, and I was asking a lot of questions.
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  The person that led me to Christ, looking back, I was annoying her because I
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  couldn't get over certain things.
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  And even when I was confronted, I would always have something that would keep
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  me back. I had something in my life I didn't want to let go that I fully jump in.
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  But once I got past the intellectual thing, I was almost to the point of desperation.
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  I just found myself giving my life to Christ.
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  But it really isn't until you give up, until you surrender and give in,
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  that you actually find out that it is real.
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  And that's like, I don't know if that's a word for it. I don't know. You can't find out.
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  But you're not going to really have true faith unless you repent.
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  So it's like it's two sides of the same coin.
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  I just know that some people you have to get past the could this have actually
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  happened but then you're brought to a point like,
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  I got to make a decision. I got to do it. But then even underneath the surface
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  of that, I believe that God is the one who gives us the faith.
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  He gives us the ability to even do it.
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  I've just found that no matter where you're at, nobody likes to be just preached
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  at and just, you know, you got to believe, you know, turn from your sin and
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  all that. Like that can just drive people away.
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  I think just presenting someone the clear evidence of Jesus, that's all you can do.
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  You can just tell them about him, tell them about the, you know,
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  how he's changed your life, but every person is going to have to make their own decision.
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  They're going to have to change their own life, you know? And it's,
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  I think it was just a breath of fresh air that like to John Lennox,
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  he's just so soft-spoken.
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  This guy knows so much, has so much knowledge and wisdom, has dealt with his
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  whole life, and he still has that childlike faith.
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  And he just understands because it is just this relationship.
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  It's really, once you actually jump off the cliff, Once you actually jump into
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  the water, I know jumping off the cliff, it seems extreme, but it kind of is
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  because you really can't experience Jesus until you turn away from everything.
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  You have to let go of everything. You lose your life.
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  That's why Jesus said you've got to count the cost before you come.
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  You count the cost. And then because if you don't, you're just going to be halfway in, halfway out.
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  And if you're halfway in, you're going to bounce out because you really never were in.
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  And so it's it's like this weird thing but like i
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  think i just almost just fell into christ like i i
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  did not know what i was doing and if i probably if
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  i knew what i was doing i probably wouldn't have done it something would
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  have helped me back i mean i was in desperation i just but once
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  i did do it once i did cross that line i found out he really is there and that's
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  like i think what all believers find out and it's like you're just trying to
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  tell everybody about this person that is really there but it's like and they're
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  just on the outside looking and because i was on the outside and I'm sure you
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  were on the outside looking and you just have all these questions.
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  But it's, we can only do so much and tell somebody about Christ.
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  They have to take the leap of faith. They have to, you know,
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  if they step into the dark, if they step in, and the dark is the opposite.
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  If they step into the light, which it seems like the dark for us on the side
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  when you're not with Christ, but on the other side, on when you open that door,
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  he really is there. And I don't know.
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  I thought it was just awesome hearing from John Alenox. He, I love listening
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  to him and him being on Diary of the CEO,
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  Steve Bartlett, he, he's just coming closer and closer, asking the questions
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  that I think any person that's just ripe for the harvest is asking.
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  But God is the one who has to change the person's heart before they'll embrace him.
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  We'll leave it at that. Let me know what you think. Drop a comment,
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  and I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. See y'all.