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- 0:47Welcome back to Pigskin Dispatch.
- 0:48I'm your host, Darren Hayes.
- 0:49What happens when you assemble one of the greatest collection of football coaching minds in the history on a single sideline, only to have their legacies defined by as much scandal as by Super Bowls and National championships?
- 1:02Today, we're turning back the clock to 1970 in Norman, Oklahoma.
- 1:06Joining us to crack open this vintage Sooner's recruiting brochure and explore the legendary and often controversial coaching staff is our good friend Timothy p.
- 1:16Brown of footballarchaeology.com get ready to dive into the real history and the questionable values behind the victories here on Pigskin Dispatch.
- 1:34Hey there.
- 1:35Glad to be back as always.
- 1:37And I just gotta say, there was crime in the streets back in 1970.
- 1:43Back in 1970, when Oklahoma's football staff, it was leading some of that crime wave back then.
- 1:53Yeah, I mean I read your tidbit, you know, it was a while back you wrote this thing and I remember it very succinctly, but I thought it was perfect.
- 2:01Since we're celebrating the year of 1970 this week on Pigskin Dispatch and all of our, our social and videos and podcasts.
- 2:09So why don't you tell us about the story that you wrote, this tidbit that you had titled 1970 Oklahoma Coaching Staff and Values.
- 2:16Yeah, so as I kind of suggested, this may, may not have been the most honest coaching staff in the history of college football.
- 2:28Is.
- 2:29Is there ever really an honest coaching staff?
- 2:31I just.
- 2:31Yeah, yeah, yeah, I truly believe there are some, but this was not among them.
- 2:38So.
- 2:39And kind of the way I got into it was that I had, I had acquired like a mailer.
- 2:45You know, it's basically a brochure magazine, you know, 20 page or something like that that they would send to football recruits, you know, as they were recruiting for the 1970 season.
- 2:57And so it was all, you know, nicely done.
- 3:01And the, in the.
- 3:03Yeah, had the inside cover and then you have page one is this nice statement on values.
- 3:09And then it goes and you know, does talks about the program facilities and you know, coaching profiles.
- 3:15So the head coach was Frank, I'm sorry, Chuck Fairbanks.
- 3:21He had Jim Dickey as his defensive coordinate, coordinator Barry Switzer as the oak coordinator, Jimmy Johnson as the D line coach, Larry Lacewell is the another defensive coach and Galen hall was the wide receivers coach.
- 3:37So every one of those guys became a head coach, had, you know, they were successful coaches.
- 3:44Right.
- 3:44In part because they were part of that tree.
- 3:47Right.
- 3:47But, but they were also, you know, qualified Guys, but a lot of them ran into NCAA challenges.
- 3:56So Fairbanks left after 1972 season, took the Patriots job.
- 4:05But like two days later or whatever it was, the NCAA announced that they, they were sanctioning them for 107 recruiting violations.
- 4:17And so they were banned for two years.
- 4:19You know, bull banned for two years and you know, blah blah, blah.
- 4:23So he gets, he's succeeded by Barry Switzerland who you know, wins three national championships there and.
- 4:34But he resigned amid a payment scandal and then he goes on to become the coach of the Cowboys and win the Super Bowl.
- 4:44So.
- 4:45Okay.
- 4:45Yeah, don't remind me about that Super Bowl.
- 4:47That was painful for me.
- 4:49Who they beat you?
- 4:52I think, you know, it's a, it's a team that will be left unnamed right now.
- 4:58Yeah.
- 5:00So Jim Dickey, he became the head coach at Kansas State.
- 5:06I didn't find anything that was like, you know, nasty about him.
- 5:10But one interesting thing he did was so he's at Kansas State when they were terrible.
- 5:15Right.
- 5:16And so.
- 5:18And they just never had the players.
- 5:20One of the things he did one year was he had basically had his 18 best players red shirt so that he'd have the following year he'd have a competitive team because you know, some new guys would develop plus
- 5:32he'd have these 18 guys, you know, all back.
- 5:37So he kind of concentrated everybody in like one class and they actually made a bowl.
- 5:42It was the first bowl game Kansas State went to.
- 5:45And then they went fell back into mediocrity once, once all those guys graduated.
- 5:51So then you had Jimmy Johnson, you know, national title at Miami.
- 5:56Also, you know, back to back Super Bowls in Dallas.
- 6:00I'm not aware of anything that he did illegally.
- 6:05But he wasn't Miami.
- 6:06So you know, other than the thing was the big game, they had game of the century against Notre Dame when he was coaching.
- 6:13They had the Catholics versus Convicts game.
- 6:15Yeah, yeah.
- 6:15It's a negative connotation or somewhere.
- 6:18Yeah.
- 6:18So I don't know if that was do the stuff before he was at Miami and then Galen hall who maybe didn't do anything incorrectly himself, but he showed up after Oklahoma.
- 6:33I think he went to Florida and he becomes the offensive coordinate coordinator there when.
- 6:38And it was Florida.
- 6:40Charlie Bell was the head coach, Charlie Pell was the head coach.
- 6:43And then he's the guy that got, you know, for 107 recruiting violations.
- 6:48So he loses his job and Fairbank Switzer had lost his under player payment scandal.
- 6:56So.
- 6:56But it wasn't the 107 thing.
- 6:59So then Hull is promoted to head Coach, he's later got in trouble with the NCAA because he paid his assistance extra money out of his own, his own pocket because there were rules about, you know, assistance could, could
- 7:17only earn so much money back then.
- 7:20But the, the forgiving thing for him was that that rule was later ruled unconstitutional by the U.S.
- 7:28supreme Court.
- 7:29And then he ends up on Paterno staff in the final several years.
- 7:36Oh God.
- 7:40So, you know, this, this whole staff is like, you know, that pig pen guy and, and Charlie Brown.
- 7:46There's this cloud that follows them.
- 7:49And then, then the other guy that I mentioned was Larry Lacewell.
- 7:53Again, to my knowledge there wasn't anything untoward about him, but he ended up being, he had played at Arkansas State and then he returned there and is maybe still is the win, but at the time was the winningest
- 8:07all time coach, you know, for Arkansas State.
- 8:09So I mean a lot of coaching talent, you know, on that, on that staff, maybe some questionable ethics choices that some of them have made.
- 8:20If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right?
- 8:25So.
- 8:26Well, maybe, maybe the two guys that didn't have any violations, maybe they're the ones that wrote the value page then in the pamphlet.
- 8:31Yeah, that's probably what happened.
- 8:34They could probably spell.
- 8:35Yeah.
- 8:37So the, the other thing that I did want to mention was normally, you know, I could hold up this object that, the brochure.
- 8:47Except that what I do with as much stuff as I can if I buy it, to do a tidbit on it and kind of dig through the thing, then when I'm done with it, if I don't have a
- 8:58personal need for it, that I put it on ebay and sell it.
- 9:00So, so that one sold okay otherwise.
- 9:04But here, here it was.
- 9:06I used to hold it just like this.
- 9:08Well, by the magic of the Internet though, I'm sure you have images on your, your tidbit.
- 9:14So there'll be links in the show notes and you're going to tell us here in a little bit how people can partake in those.
- 9:19But there's a link to take you to it and folks can see the images on, on of football archaeology.
- 9:25Yeah, not, not in its entirety, but I mean I scan the whole thing, but so if somebody is really needing a scan of that thing, get in touch with me.
- 9:37A couple of bucks and stories, man,.
- 9:40It's still making money off it.
- 9:44All right, Tim, so we just mentioned you have your tidbits coming out.
- 9:48You have some great pieces of football history like this.
- 9:52Maybe you could share with folks how they could partake in this?
- 9:55Yeah, just go to footballarchaeology.com.
- 9:59Yeah, it's a substack site, so you can just visit whenever you want.
- 10:03You can.
- 10:03And you know, you can search the archives, all that kind of thing, or subscribe.
- 10:08And you can also follow within the within the substack app.
- 10:15And if you're searching for stuff on ebay, just look for the seller named Football Archaeology.
- 10:21All my old stuff is out there, at least some of it.
- 10:25There you go.
- 10:26All right, Tim.
- 10:27Well, we appreciate it and we value what you brought to us today.
- 10:31Not in a scandalous way that you discussed, but we really value it.
- 10:34That is so nice of you to say.
- 10:38Okay, thanks a lot.
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