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#35 - Jason Kim: Rival Auto Works · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  Hey guys, before we begin this episode just want to explain a
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  little bit of a backstory for the next three episodes we have
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  coming out including this one. Me and Carl decided to take a
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  trip to California for the black dudes drift event held at Apple
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  Valley Speedway. But before that, we decided
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  since we had a couple of days we would we would throw a feeler
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  out there on Instagram and see if anyone had any shops for us
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  to check out and we did get a couple shops.
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  So the first one is this podcast, you're listening to
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  right now, and it is Ville Auto. This is a shop ran by Jason Kim.
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  He is located inside of the pecs, eShop as well.
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  So it was a pretty cool experience together.
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  Get to check out a Pepsi shop and rival at the same time.
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  There's also unrivaled tuning. That works out of there as well.
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  These side fabrication is also located inside the shop.
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  So there's a total of all I guess for different operations
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  running out of this building. We have a peck, see rival Auto,
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  unrivaled tuning and B-side fabrication so it was really
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  interesting. Arresting getting to see
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  everyone's own little section of the shop.
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  And what they're working on. We're going to have a video on
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  this. I would say in the next week or
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  two of this releasing. So you definitely want to check
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  that out. It should be a pretty long
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  YouTube video that goes over our holes, California trip.
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  And that's really it. I just want to let you guys know
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  what was going on before we got into this one and yeah, leave us
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  a review if you like it. We were mics are hot.
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  Mics are hot. Mics are hot.
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  We're good to go. All right.
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  Welcome everyone of the faction. After hours podcast we are in
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  California. Yeah, welcome.
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  We're joined graciously by our guest of honor tonight.
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  Jason, Jason from rival, Autoworks.
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  Yes sir. Still kind of StarStruck to be
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  here because again, we are on the complete opposite side of
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  the country. And this is his domain.
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  Perfect Sr in the background. Yeah, I know.
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  Do you hear an Sr in the background?
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  That's amazing. I want to First say that.
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  It's been an honor to be here. Yeah.
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  Because as you can see, a by the a, a lot of the Apex
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  integration, which I didn't know.
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  Yeah, that's how it was pronounced memorabilia on the
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  wall that we're here at the shop, Apex integration.
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  That is also where rival Auto Works has.
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  Yeah, I kind of just like bombarded you with this.
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  I feel like you pick me up at the airport and I was like are
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  we going to Apex? This guy didn't even tell me
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  what terminal He said, you were already here before I was here,
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  I landed this morning and then he was like, yeah, Ontario
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  Airport. Yeah, I'm like, where the fuck
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  is that? Just, you know, I was like
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  trying to set this shit up. Like last minute, right?
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  Right, right. And I was like, you said, yes.
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  And I was like, thank God. We got at least.
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  I thought you guys are just going to come because everybody
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  comes here and visit Apex. Yeah, you know, I'm just here.
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  Yeah. Kind of like, you know, I don't
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  know. You had a lot of cool stuff in
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  there. Yeah, it's like I'm not Apex but
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  at the same time I do a lot of Apec stuff.
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  I do a lot of a fix. Products.
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  Yeah, you know, things like that.
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  So so we should give a little background.
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  I was going to say, do you want to tell the listeners?
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  Kind of what you do at rival as a mechanic shop or I guess, but
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  how did it be a shop? I don't even know what to call.
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  I mean, it is a shop. It's I mean, in my, in my eyes
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  is my hobby shop. I have another business that we
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  do. Yeah, I do have another
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  business. This is not my main source of
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  income. Okay.
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  I just did this out of love, ya. Love action, action.
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  Whatever. Want to call it.
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  I think that's the best way to do it.
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  Yeah, yeah. So I mean originally, it wasn't
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  it was never meant to be a shop for the public.
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  So the reason why the name came about is like, what?
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  I'm at track and I'm driving there, like.
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  Oh, you know who Bill works on your Carl?
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  Bildt your car's? I go, I did.
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  And eventually they're like, oh, go find Jason Kim.
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  Like, what we take is Jason Kim and, you know, Kim is a very
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  common last name for Koreans and there's a lot of Jason Kinser.
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  So yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of New Jersey to
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  don't worry. Yeah, there's a lot.
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  Yeah. So, So one day like, you know,
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  they're like do you should just make a shop name because I
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  already had a shop. Yeah, just filled in my cars and
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  then eventually I don't know somewhere somehow somebody's
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  like hey you want to work on my car?
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  I'm like not really. I saw your Instagram.
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  It says appointments only right. Yeah.
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  That's like the main thing. A says, a private shop.
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  Not open to public. Yeah.
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  Read that too. I just I just think it's funny.
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  So I never changed it. Yeah but no I mean it is it is
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  open to the public. It Is by appointment you can't
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  just walk in here. Yeah.
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  That you're gonna get your oil changed.
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  Yeah, yeah. We're kind of the same way at
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  our shop. Right.
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  Right. We did.
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  It does say appointments only on ours to I believe.
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  So he's very big on the. All right.
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  Send us an email. Yeah, but I'm right here.
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  I'm not even a send us an email or phone call guy.
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  I'm like, just send me like they'll call.
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  Hey, so I'm looking to get a quote for the I'm like, okay,
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  well there's two of us here. So you got to send me an email
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  and I'll get back to you when I have time at least all my stuff
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  is done through Instagram. Do you say that's just like?
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  Yeah, he will do that to ya and it's like I need to figure out
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  or I need to remember the put it down on my They're so like all
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  of us here have multiple double booked appointments were at, you
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  know, to car show up early. Yo, shit.
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  Oh yeah, that's that's the problem with that.
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  That's why it's like so hectic. That's why I'm like if I if I
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  have everyone email me then I can like Cipher through my
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  emails I really like okay. So I told this guy that and
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  there's proof of everything you know?
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  Yeah that way it's like but you told me this and it's kind of
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  always interesting when I have so Frank.
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  He's obviously a business owner, right?
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  So it's kind of interesting when you have another business Owner
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  and you guys talk about the same shit every time and it's like
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  it's like I hate when customers do this but it must be real
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  interesting here because technically you have three
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  different we do so. Okay so I was going to say to
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  you what would you like to explain?
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  Yeah okay so somehow some way I became a shop, people started
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  bringing cars and it eventually became, we eventually moved in
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  here and the original plan. When we moved in here, we're
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  going to produce Parts. We're going to buy a CNC
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  machine. And we're going to make badass
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  Parts. Hmm.
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  And I am a business owner and the way I saw it.
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  Making cool. CNC Parts is not going to make
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  me any damn money. You know.
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  It's literally just to prove that we can make badass thing.
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  Yeah. And we were just gonna buy some
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  shit from China relabel. The other name on it and that's
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  going to make the money. That's that's a lot of shops.
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  That that is that it's a lot more common than This is more
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  like you know kind of accessible to the general public.
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  Yeah. And if they're not going to go
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  out and buy a CNC tow arm yeah you know how to do that but it's
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  going to be cool. Like a voodoo did it right?
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  And yeah, it looks cool. Where are they from?
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  I think they're like Arizona or something like that.
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  I learned there are a lot of good shops and know.
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  There is, there is, yeah, I mean, they're good parts do
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  exist. But, you know, Not so good.
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  Parse advertise a lot better then.
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  Good parts job. Yeah, no, yeah.
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  I definitely kind of get what you're saying.
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  Yeah, but there are, there are a couple companies like I think of
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  parts shop. Max.
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  I mean, I don't know where they're making the parts but I'm
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  saying, like a lot of it has to do with branding to, I feel like
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  Brandon I think. Yeah.
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  Brandi obviously is yeah. Biggest things like Voodoo.
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  I mean, they pretty much they made out pretty well.
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  So, yeah. But they kind of stopped
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  advertising. I don't hear about it.
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  Yeah. You know I don't really.
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  I don't really either, but people do bring that company up
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  all the time. They're like, yeah, I hear, I
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  hear Voodoo and SPL, like, they're all good stuff.
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  That's the elves. Amazing.
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  But like, holy shit, is it too much money?
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  That's that's the only problem is PL.
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  Yeah, no, it is expensive. But Saul tigh team but that's
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  honestly the problem with most good parts nowadays is you gotta
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  pay to play unfortunately that. Yeah.
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  You know. So like I think for me is like,
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  I don't know. Now like the 20-odd whatever
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  kids they're into like a t-shirt boxes.
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  If If a square and has flip-up headlights, they fucking love
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  it. Oh my God thing now, right?
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  Yeah, no. I mean, yeah.
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  Like, that's my generation man. And there's even some some of
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  these kids that like they don't drift they don't they don't even
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  want to like track the car. No, I mean I get like they're
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  just like they like the way like the car.
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  Yeah. Or they saw it in like an anime
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  or and it's usually on small wheels.
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  Yeah. Isn't that isn't that kind?
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  But I think it has to do. In my opinion it has to do with
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  the age. It's like if I look back at it I
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  grew up. I like These hot rods.
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  I want to build a Pro Mod. Yeah, like looking streetcar,
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  I'm not gonna go drag racing. This is that yours out back
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  whatever that older car is because I don't know what the
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  fuck that is. That's enough 50.
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  In forms in which it was used for smuggling alcohol.
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  I shit. You not no, I want to feel like
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  what is like a 67 Nova? Yeah, yeah.
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  I want to see tired and I want a straight drive that.
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  Yeah. But then I couldn't afford it.
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  So that's how I got it Imports. Also, that answers, one of my
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  questions I hear I was like, why I was going to be like, why
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  important I was that dude I mean I got my license in what 98 or
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  something so at the time front-wheel-drive Honda was like
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  the only in four scenes? Yeah. 240s funny.
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  I tell the story. There's you know r33 he's right.
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  So when I first saw an R 33 and often magazine I thought it was
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  a nice 14. Yeah I'd like to thank you
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  headlights very centering 3 so I'm like oh okay that's what
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  that must be and my buddy sister had a sinky automatic and I was
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  like oh can I drive it? It was the biggest
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  Disappointment, I was like 17. I think originally was like
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  adrift day and then they branched out to adjust drift and
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  a few of my high school guys. Friends were like, the first, I
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  knew that started drifting. So at the time I was doing,
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  like, grip days, like Honda days, like, how got like, Honda
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  challenge. But like, you know, what tracks
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  would they do this in three savola would be like, I thought
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  so, you know what the Honda guys would love to run a big Willows
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  a little bit bigger. Yeah, the serious guys want to
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  like, Buttonwillow to actually do like the time stuff, but all
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  my friends, I rotaries, they ought to have seen.
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  Yeah, I don't know anything about rotaries do ya.
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  So I mean, they would, you know, they would obviously say like oh
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  you know, you could do it this way and, you know, we all kind
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  of learn together. Yeah.
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  Like we didn't have Sims back. I was going to say and this was
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  like, right out of high school. Yeah.
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  I think my first 240 was like yeah right out of high school.
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  That's when I got my first. Yeah, was right out of high
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  school to when you were hooked but that was 10 years after you
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  were doing that. So like you were you were in
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  like what a lot of us. Look at as like the Golden Era
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  but also, like I said, beginning error.
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  Yeah. Drifting and stuff like yeah.
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  Like when do you want came? Exactly.
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  Yeah. Like we all talk about D1.
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  Yeah. The time like how we wish we
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  could have went like I was 3 years late to the English town
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  one. Okay I mean, yeah.
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  When they actually did the whole year, yeah, I remember that.
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  So like that's that's what we always talk about.
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  So I was excited to talk to you because but you kind of like
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  lived through and live that hole.
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  I mean like Fast and Furious came out.
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  Jesus Christ. Literally graduated high school
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  in Fast and Furious came in. Whoa, don't do need him now.
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  Do need him now. It's sick.
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  It's not. You know, it's like, okay, think
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  of it this way. Like, we're all in the
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  community, right? Let's say, like Hollywood says,
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  we're going to make a terrific movie, like imagine how stupid
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  that was sounding. Yeah, they're just gonna ruin
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  the scene and Fast and Furious for, like, one for me.
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  It was like the worst fucking was it?
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  I hate that. Okay, I'm coming.
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  I'm glad to hear it from says, it blew up the spot doing is
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  drag, racers to be like gangsters.
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  Yeah, this is like thieves. It wasn't like that.
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  I mean, there was some, you know, there was some Bad Blood.
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  I'm the whatever. Yeah, but it wasn't like that.
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  Yeah, it just, it's like, it's like, I guess if you want to
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  associate Drifters with a sideshow Guys, these days.
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  Oh, that's how it's going to be like, that's bad.
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  And it's a bad way of putting his.
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  So after that movie came out, actually like that.
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  All everybody got pulled over like, you know, you how to
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  modify. So you would just get pulled
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  over. It was dumb.
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  Shit, this is okay. So for me, you're the first
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  person to ever reference that movie, as like, bad kind of a -
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  a -. Yeah.
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  And I never and I never thought. About it like that.
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  Alright, right now, just imagine if there's a drift movie that,
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  yeah, imagine how they would portray Drifters, they're going
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  to go street drifting, you know, it's got.
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  And then some guy that doesn't know anything about this stuff
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  is going to see some slideshow clip and they're going to
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  associate it together. Yeah.
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  And it's I mean, that's literally that's what's
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  happening right now. Yeah.
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  Like that's the only thing I always talk about when we talk
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  about think home takeovers by us.
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  Yeah. And I'm like, that's affecting
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  us because like, I mean, I haven't drifted in, like, two or
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  three years so it hasn't been directly affected.
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  But like, if one of my cars running and I go out on the
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  street and I find a nice little area to fuck around and by
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  myself. Yeah.
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  And then a cop sees me, I don't think it's going to be like, how
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  it was five years ago where it was like, hey, yeah, I hear ya.
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  I think it's going to be like, all right, we're impounding the
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  car. You're going to jail, you know?
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  So yeah from their eyes. It's like you doing a donut in a
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  parking lot versus same donut donut.
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  And intersection like, yeah, I was a difference.
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  Yeah. So I get what you're saying.
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  It, definitely brought down heat to like, all right, everybody.
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  What caused the? So you mentioned you were from
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  Honda Before I feel like, I feel like everyone starts in that
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  space, right? Or at least a majority of us
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  because I had Honda's to. I had an integral had a couple
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  integra's and then I found out what an S chassis was knife and
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  I found out who Frankie was because Frankie's little famous.
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  I'm not famous, but I mean, I know of him in the shop.
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  Yeah, like that's amazing and thank you butthead.
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  I found out what that was and I was like, damn, why can't I
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  drift my Honda? And then that's yeah.
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  Oh, so you had that when you were in high school or graduated
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  high school I had You and Chris always talk about the has got to
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  40s. Yep.
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  At the same time, my buddy had the one who I was just on
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  FaceTime with my buddy, had a 240.
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  I know add an es 13 when I have been hatch first, and I was
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  like, what the fuck is that? And this is like 2014.
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  So this is like five years after I started.
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  Right, right. You know, so it's like it's cool
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  to have like these different. Yes.
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  But I'm curious. What made you do that switch?
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  Like was it that automatic S14 zenki.
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  At did it for you. Probably ruined it.
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  He's like fuck it starts. Oh no case I think I think I
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  remember so one day so we all used to go like this streets of
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  Willow and decrypt days. Yeah yeah.
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  Even the friends that I have season things like that and
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  yeah, any street racing in there?
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  I mean I used to like street drag racing.
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  Okay? Yeah, tario the the city that
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  you landed. Yeah.
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  Used to have a huge drag street drag race.
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  Okay. It was like like, you know, like
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  Mom's minivans would come and like you said to minivans, and
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  you line them up and everybody just kind of like has fun.
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  That's what, that's what people would do by me to write.
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  It was it was nothing serious and I give my eyes, but, you
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  know, you got so big to a point where you're stopped at an
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  intersection. And you can't see the end of
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  head lice in all four directions.
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  Like it was huge. Yeah, and that wasn't even the
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  biggest one. I think the biggest one wasn't
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  like San Diego, okay. Yeah.
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  Because when I think a California in early 2000s, I
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  think it's street drag racing. And you know why?
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  Type, I think about that that fucking MTV show, dude.
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  All roulette row, do you know anyone in that guy?
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  I knew it. It would be worse so much to, ya
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  know. So he got that.
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  And he was like, oh I'm going to fix this and blah blah blah and
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  I think he was kind of embarrassed to say the reason
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  was was because of Initial D, and I did What?
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  That was at the time. Yeah.
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  So he's like, oh, it's like this Japanese cartoon and they go
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  racing. I'm like dude, just go get a.
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  Honda ha ha, ha. I feel like I would have been
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  like you backpacks. Be like, dude, don't try to do
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  your own thing. Know that back, then, that is
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  you now. Yeah, motherfucker.
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  I literally tell everyone just get it to 40.
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  Yeah, well I mean if you can find one now.
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  Yeah. But they're always trying to
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  drift some crazy new writer and I'm like, dude, this is the best
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  car for anything it is dude. Honestly everything right now is
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  expensive. It is I'm just everything is so
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  then the 86 transformed you. Oh yeah you're one buddy.
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  Got one. Is that the reason?
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  So one day I went to attracting and in Willow Springs.
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  There's a couple of different tracks that you can go to
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  streets of. Willow, you can go to balcony,
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  which is like a skidpad type thing.
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  You can go to horse thief. It's all within the same
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  facility. Yeah, so I was at streets of
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  Willow race. My Civic and they were a balcony
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  drifting oh shit. So at the end of the day I was
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  playing for myself and they're all playing with each other
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  sounds like hey you? That's all they are.
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  That's true. No, it's drifting man.
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  Yeah, it's like you're just doing like you're probably doing
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  like time trials or some you right.
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  Right. Right.
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  And then there's like, they could be potentially tanning or
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  learning right there having fun. It's infectious.
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  Sure it's definitely. I say this all the time I think
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  I said it on a previous podcast but drifting is actually like
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  the most inefficient way to take a corner.
• 17:55
  Oh yeah, yeah, it is absolutely inefficient at your Achilles but
• 17:58
  the most but it's the most fun and I think that it's crazy that
• 18:02
  it, that probably shaped the rest of your life like wouldn't
• 18:07
  you say like yeah so I mean so after that I ended up, I ended
• 18:10
  up buying my first s13. I wish I kept that, we always
• 18:14
  say that. Yeah, it was a 89, two-tone
• 18:16
  green bone stock and get wish I would have kept that thing.
• 18:20
  So, you know, I know, Yeah, for those of you listening, and if
• 18:24
  you haven't tuned into the video portion of this, I can see the
• 18:28
  pain and takes up space and at the time and he didn't know what
• 18:39
  the arrow bumper was. He's like, I'm like, hey, do you
• 18:42
  have a bumper? He's like, I have one with two
• 18:44
  holes and I have one with three holes.
• 18:46
  I'm like, okay. Three holes, ha ha ha.
• 18:49
  Let me go look at that one. So, I went over there.
• 18:52
  Sure enough, it's a narrow bumper.
• 18:53
  I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll trade you my to whole bumper, for that
• 18:58
  one. He's like, oh, I give you a
• 19:00
  hundred bucks. I was like, okay.
• 19:02
  So, you know, I had a essentially, had a brick front
• 19:04
  end with an arrow bumper for like 500 bucks.
• 19:06
  Yeah, at the time. Wow.
• 19:09
  Also, you can never, yeah, I don't know what that shit costs
• 19:12
  nowadays. Oh God, I don't even know, I'm
• 19:15
  not even gonna be a guy. So I do.
• 19:17
  I never keep up with, damn it. Chris you needed you here?
• 19:19
  Yeah that's why when you cry he has a two-tone silver.
• 19:22
  Yeah, so we bought that I bought that and then I don't know why
• 19:26
  but I ended up buying another car, another hatch.
• 19:28
  So I love slippery slope here, the funny thing.
• 19:31
  Okay, so I bought I bought a 90 hatch from a used car
• 19:36
  dealership. Uh-huh.
• 19:38
  It was so long ago where this is the 2 Fast 2 Furious.
• 19:40
  This is the, this is the interlude.
• 19:42
  This is the interlude right here.
• 19:43
  So with that car ended up doing the first Sr saw because by this
• 19:46
  time I knew It is hard, it was and stuff.
• 19:48
  Okay, didn't Sr swap, right? I gotta pause you though.
• 19:51
  Yeah. How did you learn how to work on
• 19:53
  cars? Trial and error.
• 19:56
  Okay, so I think, ever since I was like 15, there was like a
• 20:01
  friend's brother or something like that, that had a Civic.
• 20:04
  So we would always see, go used to go to his house and at the
• 20:07
  time like you don't you would cut springs.
• 20:09
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:09
  You would spray paint lips red on a white car.
• 20:12
  There weren't forms that are there.
• 20:13
  What are we going to tell you like hey don't okay, so you had
• 20:17
  some information, right right. But then like when you get when
• 20:21
  you when I got into like the 240 stuff it's like Like so okay I
• 20:25
  get this are obviously I need wire I was going to ask what are
• 20:28
  you doing with that? This is all like a Soviet thing
• 20:30
  is just like you know now looking at it it's actually
• 20:33
  pretty fucking simple. It's just 50 lat.
• 20:35
  Yeah but at the time cycle you have to extend this where?
• 20:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:39
  It's if you don't know what you're doing.
• 20:41
  Well I mean it's like wire harness is like whoa.
• 20:43
  Right? And being a Honda guys, like
• 20:45
  Honda's Honda guys always say n is best at is best, right?
• 20:48
  So this is my first turbo car. I don't know what the hell I'm
• 20:51
  doing with this. I buy an 8 x 8.
• 20:54
  ER oh yeah because I'm supposed to control Booth with this
• 20:57
  thing. Yeah I don't know what any of
• 20:58
  this stuff is. So there's a gain their Duty.
• 21:02
  Yeah like okay I'm going to play with these and everybody says no
• 21:05
  and everybody says as long as you're doing like you know 12 to
• 21:08
  14 pounds is totally safe. On is 13s are like okay,
• 21:11
  fourteen pounds. You're kind of pushing that out
• 21:13
  1212. Yeah, 12 is usually use the
• 21:16
  sweet spot so you know I'm doing it.
• 21:18
  I'm just looking at the thing to see what PSI is hitting.
• 21:20
  I'm like, oh, okay, so I should leave that there and then the
• 21:23
  game I'm like oh this makes a kick in harder.
• 21:25
  Yeah. So I kept going up.
• 21:29
  Did that motor Last of Me Like a month of driving?
• 21:33
  We took it apart. We don't know what.
• 21:35
  I don't know how to take an engine apart at that age.
• 21:37
  Yeah we take it apart just because you know it's easy to
• 21:39
  unbolt stuff right? Yeah.
• 21:41
  You're learning my piston melted where it literally just have one
• 21:44
  big Groove. All the fucking just melted my
• 21:49
  God. The world panders.
• 21:51
  Like just round molten aluminum. Guys, even have a FR gauges.
• 21:55
  Like at that stage. Probably not innovate made one
• 21:58
  that was like this big. Yeah.
• 22:01
  Innovate made one. That was like, seriously, like
• 22:04
  the size of an iPad now. Yeah.
• 22:05
  And you could actually technically hook that up to four
• 22:09
  what Gage I think told me cage or something like that and you
• 22:12
  could actually feed it to a power of C.
• 22:14
  Oh wow. Not a Parsi.
• 22:15
  I'm sorry to a data log it. Okay.
• 22:18
  And you would Street Drive and just Target AFR.
• 22:21
  He's going to every little box and yeah, just missed.
• 22:24
  That's how you know, it was back sound so fucking complicated.
• 22:27
  I just need my understand a bit. Read different three different
• 22:31
  components. Yeah, to monitor afri mean do
• 22:34
  back then. They had like the fuel
• 22:35
  controllers and stuff, right? Right.
• 22:36
  Like because stand-alones weren't really that common.
• 22:38
  No, I mean even then it was so expensive like you know.
• 22:41
  Yeah. You couldn't like a boost
• 22:43
  converter a VCR. I think at the time was like 400
• 22:45
  bucks or something. Yeah that's a lot of money
• 22:48
  especially when you're a kid just out of high school.
• 22:49
  Yeah. And you're blowing up Sr.'s.
• 22:52
  Yeah. That kid.
• 22:54
  Yeah, that is going to vote for that.
• 22:56
  Sorry. It's gonna get expensive and so
• 22:58
  I was like, you know what, screw terrible cars.
• 23:00
  I'm going to sell this thing. So I ended up getting another
• 23:02
  Civic started racing it again. I'm like and they're still
• 23:05
  having fun drifty. You left back in the Honda damn,
• 23:10
  but by that time I had started a business.
• 23:12
  So I had like some money to play with.
• 23:14
  So I will talk to my best friend.
• 23:15
  I'm like, hey man, I wanna go drifting and obviously, he's
• 23:18
  going to say, let's get a 6. So I was like, all right, fine,
• 23:21
  I'll go find a six. So I found like 1,000 bug.
• 23:24
  He's cuckoo handicapped plate. I drove it home.
• 23:28
  It's the cleanest fucking thing, and you guys are lucky.
• 23:30
  Me, got no rust. We have no Rusty and I did.
• 23:32
  I do. How do you work on?
• 23:33
  Cars are dressed. It's the worst.
• 23:35
  So man, it's like a video. One day and send it to you and
• 23:37
  be like, hey, just I'm definitely sending you a video.
• 23:40
  You know, the cars we get some times where it's like, it's
• 23:42
  really bad. Like, people will show up a cars
• 23:45
  the best. The email will be like, look,
• 23:47
  man, I just need some coilovers install there.
• 23:49
  Some like some simple shit and it's always something that's
• 23:51
  what she can't be. That bad, it can't be that bad.
• 23:54
  And the car will get here and Chris will come up to me and be
• 23:56
  like, why didn't you fucking screen these people before
• 23:58
  before you just accepted this shit?
• 23:59
  I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like it's got no frame
• 24:02
  rail, dude. Like the car's not even here,
• 24:04
  it's not even that. It just makes it a simple
• 24:07
  hour-long job. Oh yeah.
• 24:09
  So we're you and a half hours and yeah.
• 24:10
  Fortunately Bible. It cost three times the price
• 24:13
  because I just sit there like torching a bold.
• 24:15
  Yeah. And you're probably going to
• 24:16
  break and replace any way. Yes, I have to literally explain
• 24:20
  like, okay, your car is extremely Rusty.
• 24:22
  So this is the Labor time. Yeah.
• 24:25
  But it could be more. Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean
• 24:27
  like so. Yeah, that's how we deal with
• 24:29
  it. It's not-it's, not fun.
• 24:30
  And then like, when you go to build a car, like, I don't know
• 24:33
  what your situation is. It's probably a lot different
• 24:35
  though, because like, when we go to build a car, it's like okay.
• 24:38
  Well, the first step is. We need to fix all the rust?
• 24:41
  Yeah, no, we don't do that. Yeah.
• 24:42
  Because it's like, if we go and build this car, it's just gonna
• 24:45
  rot out. No, no.
• 24:46
  You know, I mean, I mean I've had, I've had out-of-state cars
• 24:49
  that a customer came in bought a car, he bought it in.
• 24:54
  In Arizona or something? Okay, I'm from like Florida or
• 24:57
  something. Like who did this thing the
• 25:00
  entire like the spare tire? Yeah, well was just that's
• 25:04
  totally but the guy Filled it with like cardboard and then
• 25:10
  they put fiberglass and resin around it.
• 25:12
  I knew you're going to say that and I had no I've never seen
• 25:15
  this before. So I'm looking at him like why
• 25:17
  is it look like that? Like is it like some weird
• 25:20
  cobwebs and I'm looking at him like the corner of it?
• 25:23
  I see like a cardboard. I'm like to decide carpet like
• 25:26
  no, fucking way that people do this shit.
• 25:28
  Okay, spare tire still in it? No, no.
• 25:30
  Okay, well of the well, I'm like like this guy just made some
• 25:34
  shit out of cardboard and favorite I have seen some shit
• 25:36
  like that, okay? So that's the thing.
• 25:37
  I mean God they'll do anything man and they just do it.
• 25:40
  So usually they could sell the car right?
• 25:42
  And all from the top it was painted like some wrinkle black.
• 25:45
  So you can't really tell ya unless you're like sitting
• 25:48
  there. I mean some people probably
• 25:49
  think like, oh that's that's a good.
• 25:51
  That's a good fix. You know?
• 25:52
  I mean because they don't know what they're doing.
• 25:53
  Yeah. But like you once when we got
• 25:57
  here, you told me a story about you were jacking up a head.
• 26:00
  He's called what's going on. Okay, before we get into the
• 26:09
  shit talking teddy, I like your car.
• 26:11
  All right, so of his car it looks exactly like what it
• 26:14
  should look like. Yeah dude, I love that thing
• 26:17
  ran. But don't ever check of his car.
• 26:19
  Yeah, yeah, Jack will go up but the Carlos stage the same.
• 26:23
  So you put it under the pinch weld or something, you were
• 26:24
  jacking it up. It wasn't moving.
• 26:26
  Know, it wasn't moving. I thought the Jack was broken.
• 26:28
  Yeah, and I look underneath, I'm like, oh shit.
• 26:30
  So I bought, I hadn't S14. I got flooded out.
• 26:33
  So I was shopping for an s13 hash.
• 26:35
  We found one Broad Back to the garage and I go to Jack it up.
• 26:39
  Yeah, same thing. Jacking it up.
• 26:43
  It's not going anywhere. I'm like, what the fuck is going
• 26:45
  on? Yeah, I go look underneath.
• 26:47
  They rebuilt. The pinch weld out of
• 26:49
  fiberglass. You're kidding.
• 26:51
  Nope. I literally lower the Jack I
• 26:54
  turned. In my friend, I said you wanted
• 26:55
  a car. Right?
• 26:56
  This is your car. He's like, all right, I'll give
• 26:59
  you like 500. I was like, that's yours.
• 27:00
  Wow, I'm not fucking keep this thing.
• 27:02
  Why would you do that to the pinch weld?
• 27:04
  Is it just a cover? It probably just to sell it.
• 27:07
  I have I have a sequoia that ideally and on that and
• 27:12
  obviously Toyota frame. That's your number one thing.
• 27:14
  Frankie hates that I tell them every time like frames done,
• 27:17
  maybe a only the Toyota mine had it.
• 27:20
  So how does he even know about this?
• 27:38
  No, the problem is is and now now you have Facebook groups of
• 27:49
  people complaining about this stuff.
• 27:50
  Yeah. And they'll be like, hey, man.
• 27:53
  Like I am looking at the Sequoia and it's been under coated and
• 27:57
  then you look at the undercoating and then somebody
• 27:58
  will be like, no, no, no, make sure to double check that with
• 28:01
  like a magnet and then they'll go around it and they'll be a
• 28:04
  square missing. And it's like a Piece of
• 28:07
  cardboard or something and they had fluid film.
• 28:11
  Noir. Our fluid frame or whatever the
• 28:14
  undercoating is. Are you sure that wasn't one of
• 28:16
  Toyotas repairs? Mmm.
• 28:19
  I've seen Nissan do some. We repairs to regardless, the
• 28:22
  issue is that there would claim that the frame is good and then
• 28:25
  you touch it and your face goes through it.
• 28:28
  Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck?
• 28:30
  But that's, that's an issue that we have over.
• 28:32
  So, I had a, I had a friend that worked Toyota.
• 28:34
  And when we would go there, you would just see frames.
• 28:36
  Is stacked up in the back of the shop.
• 28:39
  Like this was like what they were doing.
• 28:40
  The text must love that job. Oh yeah.
• 28:42
  I mean I'm sure they were super happy to see that come in
• 28:45
  money-wise I think it was really good but it was just like trying
• 28:48
  to figure out the tricks to let ya know what you mean.
• 28:51
  But they I mean they figured it out.
• 28:53
  They definitely figure it out. No.
• 28:54
  Did I got how far is the 2004 like 300,000 miles on it?
• 28:58
  Oh, she's a baby. Oh Russ.
• 29:00
  Yeah, she's a baby. I think that it's crazy that as
• 29:04
  an import car, let's say, for example, Teddy's card.
• 29:06
  I don't want to talk shit about Teddy.
• 29:08
  I love him. I love his content man, I hope
• 29:10
  you it's not talking shit, it's just stating fact it's true
• 29:14
  self. But what I what I mean to say is
• 29:17
  that cars that are imported here they dead doesn't even
• 29:20
  necessarily mean that it's clean anymore because Japanese cars
• 29:23
  are us. Yeah they get rusty and
• 29:26
  everything there your us. I think I think now the car is
• 29:28
  to look for our California car. If it's to that's like only look
• 29:32
  for only California guy here, There's a guy here that sends
• 29:38
  cars back and forth but they want to send like I think he
• 29:41
  does mean like s32 old Seas. Yeah, but yeah, they want
• 29:45
  California's. He's shipped over to Japan
• 29:47
  because all of those, hold on it, that's kind of crazy because
• 29:49
  my dad had an s30, send it to Japan and no, no, that's kind
• 29:55
  of. So he sold it on eBay, I think
• 29:58
  and the person who bought it was a, I guess like a proctor or
• 30:03
  like the a middleman because it was going to Pan.
• 30:06
  Right. Right.
• 30:07
  That was a beautiful white s30 and it got shipped over there.
• 30:11
  My dad was like, yeah, we're never seeing that again.
• 30:13
  Yeah. And I'm like, Dad, I'm going to
• 30:14
  see it on the internet in like four weeks.
• 30:17
  Did you see that car again? I thought you saw it again on a
• 30:19
  magazine, I think. But I mean, regardless, like
• 30:23
  that's kind of terrifying to think about man.
• 30:25
  The things that we love are rotting away by nature and it
• 30:28
  sucks, but that's why are you not here?
• 30:30
  Yeah, you still got cars over here, so I guess we're good.
• 30:33
  You guys can get my California. Again you can't register an out
• 30:39
  of state or out of country car. Whoa, what how do people do that
• 30:43
  here? There's it's rare to see a
• 30:45
  California Plate. Right-hand drive car there are
• 30:47
  ways to do it but it's like one super expensive but basically to
• 30:51
  do it the right way. Yeah.
• 30:52
  Needs to be converted to meet all of that car like California
• 30:56
  are. Yeah board I like that.
• 31:00
  You don't know what a dancer and you live here that I don't like
• 31:04
  like you gotta you gotta do. Basically, all the safety stuff
• 31:11
  and stuff, but that's supposed to be.
• 31:25
  So, naturally, we have like, the biggest car seat.
• 31:30
  That's what always confuse me and I've talked about on this
• 31:32
  podcast before I want. Because people talk about
• 31:34
  California's being like the Hub, The Hub of like Imports the
• 31:39
  import scene in the country. And I'm like, it's funny because
• 31:41
  they have the worst laws. I can't even ship an intake to
• 31:45
  California. Oh, God.
• 31:47
  Legally don't even get me started.
• 31:48
  Yeah, dude, what are we doing? Wait, wait.
• 31:51
  So, so you obviously work on cars and not to go back to what
• 31:55
  rival Auto Works is. But, are you also a retailer?
• 31:58
  No, I would like to be apart. Okay.
• 32:02
  I mean at the end of the day I do enjoy working on cars when I
• 32:06
  can't wrench on cars when I'm you know 50?
• 32:09
  Yeah, you'd like I'd rather just sit there so Parts.
• 32:12
  I will still wrench on your own as long as I possibly can.
• 32:16
  Yeah, but it's got to be like, for me, not, you know, for
• 32:21
  money, I guess. I think.
• 32:22
  Deep. Do you ever?
• 32:23
  Do you ever find yourself in? I'm going to ask me the same
• 32:25
  question right? Where you are getting burnt.
• 32:29
  Like you like you have your own cars and after working on
• 32:32
  Customer cars. How often do you find yourself?
• 32:34
  Like man I got I don't really feel like working on mine, you
• 32:37
  know. Chop Shop owners cars are all
• 32:39
  held together by zip ties and ha ha ha.
• 32:42
  It is the truest do not represent their work because
• 32:48
  they're trying to slap things together after hours and just to
• 32:50
  make it. That because that's a testament
• 33:03
  to your work because again we were just in there in the shop
• 33:06
  and it looks dude. Yeah a lot of cool shit in there
• 33:09
  man. Customers cars are way different
• 33:10
  than my personal cars I mean. So for instance.
• 33:12
  So right now my LSS 13 is out of body shop.
• 33:19
  And that was crashed two years ago and I just don't have the
• 33:22
  time to pull the engine and take it to the shop.
• 33:25
  So, my buddy, I used to work at a body shop offered to take it.
• 33:28
  Pull the engine. Yeah.
• 33:30
  And put it kind of all back together.
• 33:32
  I'm like, well, if you're going to have it and he's a fat guy to
• 33:34
  yeah, you know, let's let's cut off the front end because it's
• 33:37
  twisted, you know, let's get this it back to you basically
• 33:40
  giving work that you can do to another friend just because you
• 33:42
  don't want to yes. And no.
• 33:44
  Like so a lot of guys a lot of guys come in here.
• 33:47
  It's like man you know this is so cool.
• 33:48
  You Work on cars all day. I want to do what you do.
• 33:50
  I'm like, no, no you don't. I'm like to go to.
• 33:52
  You really don't know I'm and I give him the best.
• 33:55
  I'm like to go to school, pay some idiot like me to do it.
• 33:57
  And I'll tell you the reason why like I can weld not as good as
• 34:01
  somebody that I know. Yeah, I can paint not as good as
• 34:04
  somebody that I know. I'll wire a car.
• 34:06
  I'll put the engine in and blah blah blah.
• 34:08
  But at the end of the day when I'm building a car, I'm not
• 34:10
  going to do all the work. I know people that can do it
• 34:12
  better than me so I'm still going to take it there and pay
• 34:14
  them. So what is the difference
• 34:16
  between, you know, you going out there getting a better job?
• 34:19
  Being able to afford this stuff versus you being in my shoes and
• 34:23
  struggling to work on your own car.
• 34:24
  Like yeah I mean that's that is a really good view on that.
• 34:28
  Yeah, yeah. Because like like you just said,
• 34:30
  I mean I can't weld so I'm going to pay my friend to do that.
• 34:33
  Right? You know.
• 34:34
  And like certain other things I'm going to give out to other
• 34:36
  people. That know how to do it.
• 34:37
  Better than me pain. Right?
• 34:39
  Work is a name painted. Yeah.
• 34:40
  You need to set of to do it. You know, I mean I've shot a car
• 34:43
  in the parking lot but you know, with the with the Halo.
• 34:47
  Yeah, we've done the same. He has.
• 34:49
  Yeah and then you try to get creative.
• 34:51
  Frankie did the best of fans I liked it.
• 35:19
  So I decided never to paint a car.
• 35:21
  Meet you too. What a surprise.
• 35:24
  Yeah, I was I told myself the same thing.
• 35:26
  I was I've paid two grand to get my car painted just cause I'm
• 35:28
  like I'm not doing this. You know.
• 35:30
  Know these sanding is the worst thing.
• 35:32
  Yeah and it's got it dude. I got to one point where I was
• 35:35
  like, I'm getting pretty good at this shit and I don't want to be
• 35:39
  like that's great. That's crazy that you said
• 35:40
  Santa. For example, sanding is the
• 35:41
  worst thing that we've interviewed this guy, super life
• 35:44
  K. Yeah, of super life.
• 35:46
  And he a body work. Specialist artist.
• 35:50
  If you will he hates when we call him that.
• 35:53
  Pretty much an artist. He's over there and he's like, I
• 35:55
  love sanding. Yeah, well that didn't, he is an
• 35:58
  artist because he's sculpting sculpt.
• 36:00
  Yeah, he's doing. That's what we said and he was
• 36:03
  like, man. I'm not an artist, but okay, if
• 36:06
  you're listening to this, man, you're an artist, bro.
• 36:08
  I get what he's saying, though. Because like, when I would like,
• 36:11
  when I would bang my car up and stuff, like I would be the one
• 36:14
  that be fixed in the quarter panel, you know?
• 36:16
  I mean, even with over Fender, I still, you know, you have to,
• 36:18
  you got to push It out here. Yeah, you gotta push it out and
• 36:20
  then I would beat my psycho acid.
• 36:22
  Be all right, I'm gonna Bond. Do this and just make a smooth
• 36:24
  and then put the over fender on. So you can't see psychopath.
• 36:27
  And to be honest if you doc, if you got nothing going on, I mean
• 36:30
  it's fine. Okay.
• 36:31
  Yeah. It's kind of funny.
• 36:33
  Fine. Yeah, but I mean I look at it
• 36:34
  this but now with chopping everything no yeah.
• 36:36
  I mean if I can work on a customer's car and charge them
• 36:39
  an x amount of hours I rather do that.
• 36:42
  Instead of wasting my hours Yang it just doesn't make sense.
• 36:45
  Yeah, for sure. I mean we have a car right now
• 36:48
  at this Shop. That's the owner of another shop
• 36:52
  and he just like, yeah, I heard about you guys.
• 36:54
  I work on German cars. I got a GTI.
• 36:57
  Are ya? Oh, can you just just rebuild
• 36:59
  the whole engine? Just give you all.
• 37:00
  Gave me all the parties. I just do it.
• 37:02
  He's like I don't care when it's done he's like I'm not I'm not
• 37:05
  working on this shit like that so I get it.
• 37:07
  I mean like certain certain things like it's almost better
• 37:10
  just let other people do it. I don't know why everyone has
• 37:12
  their specialty and I think Dan the tuner outside.
• 37:17
  Yeah he said it in a way where Our because obviously there's
• 37:20
  multiple there's multiple things going on in this shop, Apex
• 37:24
  integration the building and he said, it's not technically, I
• 37:30
  use the word One Stop Shop. Hmm, But it's not like a little
• 37:33
  bit of everything. Like, I feel like everybody, he
• 37:36
  said there's it's three different specializations,
• 37:38
  right? Right.
• 37:40
  Not that that's that's exactly what it is.
• 37:43
  It's like, what is that saying? Like a jack of all trades and
• 37:47
  master of none or something? Yeah, which is Just like kind of
• 37:50
  a degrading thing, but I get what you're saying, but it is,
• 37:52
  it is. I mean, just because, you know,
• 37:53
  how to do it. Like, it doesn't mean you should
• 37:55
  definitely do all of it. Yeah, look at it.
• 37:58
  Yeah, I'm so between in the back, there's Richard beside
• 38:02
  fabrication so he does all the fabrication.
• 38:04
  Okay, but he's gotten. So busy, where I had to learn
• 38:08
  how to weld like simple things like.
• 38:10
  Yeah, sure. And take someone else because
• 38:12
  he's, he has, he works with the guys called just driven, and
• 38:17
  they have like endless miles per hour.
• 38:19
  Cars. So he's always busy.
• 38:22
  Danny says he was a tech for 10 years.
• 38:25
  He doesn't want a wrench on cars.
• 38:26
  He literally every tuners like this.
• 38:28
  Yeah, I noticed that jump in here.
• 38:31
  I just want to sit here and yell at you.
• 38:34
  There's a problem with this sensor.
• 38:35
  There's a blue Sleek here. Like, you know, that's what
• 38:38
  Danny wants to do, which is totally fine.
• 38:40
  Yeah. And like, for me, I'm I used to
• 38:44
  mainly just do wiring no, because, oh, you're, you're
• 38:47
  dead, breathe. oh yeah, there's always that one guy and that was
• 38:53
  mainly what I did but now because Of how everything works.
• 38:59
  You can't just do Wire. Yeah and I didn't want to go
• 39:01
  into like all that crazy motors for stuff because I should guess
• 39:04
  expensive. And I don't want to deal with
• 39:06
  race teams. Yeah, I do this, I do this for
• 39:08
  me kind of thing. So majority of the stuff I do is
• 39:11
  just weekend. Club racer stuff.
• 39:13
  Yeah. Do you have, do you have
• 39:14
  employees here? So yeah, I have one.
• 39:16
  You have one guy thoughts in with me for a little over a year
• 39:20
  now greatest thing. Oh my God.
• 39:25
  Yeah, I know. It's like you and Chris me and
• 39:26
  Chris is the same. So, his name is Chris.
• 39:29
  That's funny. You have a crisp your own and he
• 39:33
  was working on the Jay-Z. Yeah.
• 39:34
  He's uh Jay-Z. Oh my God is he kind of looks
• 39:38
  like Chris to. Did you see him?
• 39:40
  I didn't. I don't think I didn't get a
• 39:41
  good look Pinot. Yeah, my chrisphillip.
• 39:43
  He's Filipino. Mike Mike, Chris is Filipino.
• 39:45
  Don't tell me. Oh my God, but don't tell me his
• 39:48
  name starts with AK. What do you mean?
• 39:50
  Qué Hora C? No, no.
• 39:52
  Chris with a seat. Okay.
• 39:53
  Okay. That would have been.
• 39:55
  That would have been the final like what the fuck that would
• 39:57
  have been? In Wild.
• 39:58
  But yeah it's nice. Having a it is it is, it's hard
• 40:01
  to do. We more things done?
• 40:03
  Do you? Do you find yourself where
• 40:06
  you're Chris is doing something? And then it's like not your
• 40:09
  exact vision and you're like, damn, I kind of wish I gave him
• 40:12
  more direction, or does he work more independently?
• 40:15
  So because you guys both have the same vision.
• 40:17
  So, basically like when I thought about hiring someone,
• 40:22
  Like I didn't, I don't know. So, okay.
• 40:25
  So it kind of happened like this.
• 40:26
  He built a car. He's young.
• 40:27
  He's like now 22 or something like that.
• 40:29
  Damn, he's really young. So when he came in and he built
• 40:34
  his car with his friends and he came in to get it tuned and I've
• 40:36
  know all of his friends to and I'm looking at his car, I'm
• 40:39
  like, okay, this guy actually thought about where things are
• 40:42
  going to go. Instead of just putting it all
• 40:45
  in. Yeah.
• 40:47
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 40:48
  Like, you know, those guys I don't like the simplest thing
• 40:50
  like a wiring Specialties Pro, aren't ya?
• 40:52
  People just lay it on top of the fucking engine and just plug it
• 40:54
  in and then they bring it to our shops and they go.
• 40:56
  Hey, it's not working. Yeah, I'm like, dude, I mean it
• 40:58
  could be something so simple as that it's like, you know, just
• 41:00
  routed nicely. Yeah.
• 41:01
  Tight here and there. Yeah so like you know, I saw
• 41:03
  that in his car I'm like Hey Y'all work here.
• 41:08
  I wish I could say the same thing about Chris but Chris does
• 41:11
  that stuff? You open Chris is because he
• 41:13
  drifts his car. So you open the hood, just
• 41:16
  covered in dirt and she's like yeah I haven't touched it.
• 41:18
  Since we put the SR in it like all this stuff.
• 41:20
  I mean here's the thing. It was almost like a different
• 41:24
  scenario. It was like Chris would work on
• 41:27
  stuff and then I would like intervene and be like yes.
• 41:29
  I like it like this. Yeah.
• 41:30
  All I have to do is say that one time.
• 41:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:32
  And it's just like he always remembers it and now he'll do
• 41:36
  that. No, he's like that.
• 41:37
  Yeah. So when he first came on
• 41:38
  obviously like I'm I'm picky it's to a point where since I do
• 41:43
  a lot of wiring stuff. I use a lot of zip ties.
• 41:44
  Yeah. Like there's no way to get away
• 41:46
  from it. No, I hate when people cut the
• 41:48
  zip ties. Not flush.
• 41:50
  Yeah, your arm on it. It just pisses you off while Oh,
• 41:53
  like the little tab. There are like, I saw a Snap-On
• 41:56
  flyers. I have like three cut, so many
• 41:58
  flush cup. Yeah, just laying around
• 42:00
  everywhere. So, like I got it, I have a
• 42:02
  little bit of OCD where, you know, all the zip ties need to
• 42:04
  be spaced evenly. Yeah.
• 42:05
  All the zip tie has need to be flipped around.
• 42:07
  Yeah, that's pretty much thank God.
• 42:09
  You and Frankie is normal? No, no, yeah, same with, same
• 42:15
  with t-bolt clamps on the intercooler failed, only started
• 42:18
  on that. It's like, wait, I didn't vote
• 42:20
  this way. I was like, no, let's try to
• 42:21
  hide it. You cannot something you can't
• 42:23
  hear. And some if you do not like the
• 42:25
  front by the intercooler, some people better.
• 42:27
  Let me put it on the bottom. It's like yeah.
• 42:29
  Until you scrape some tell you scrape it.
• 42:30
  Yeah. Have to put it.
• 42:32
  I usually put a facing back like this one.
• 42:34
  Yeah, I just got to figure out a way to make it look good because
• 42:36
  when you put it this way, the one for the usually, in the way.
• 42:38
  So at least this way, you can get it from the back, talking
• 42:40
  about t-bolts. I fucking I don't even like
• 42:42
  those things. And thank God, They seized, and
• 42:45
  then they never grip. The same ever again actually.
• 42:47
  No. I'm sorry.
• 42:48
  I hate cheap. T-bolts cheap ones.
• 42:49
  Here we go. You know what?
• 42:50
  I've been liking lately. Constant velocity.
• 42:53
  Yes, intent sometimes intentional.
• 42:55
  They use them on buses. Yeah.
• 42:58
  Because they have a shield underneath.
• 42:59
  Yeah, that doesn't rip it up. Yeah.
• 43:01
  I was like those look good. I don't know if they're gonna
• 43:03
  hold up but they definitely look.
• 43:05
  They look the part. I think that it's, it's
• 43:08
  important that you have your Chris.
• 43:11
  Yeah, because I feel like great. I feel like, I feel like you did
• 43:14
  at this point out. Mmm.
• 43:15
  At this point now, you like, I don't mean to age you but, but
• 43:21
  like, are you guys Be like if you obviously you're still in
• 43:24
  this you're deep in this shit and you're going to continue to
• 43:28
  keep doing this. You need to give yourself that
• 43:29
  time that that breather you deserve a break, man.
• 43:32
  Because how long would you say rival has been?
• 43:34
  Has been a functioning business in your?
• 43:38
  Give me a rough ballpark because I don't expect an exact number
• 43:40
  here. Like five.
• 43:41
  Six years, five, six years. Yeah, I heard I heard I think
• 43:45
  someone told me that outside, and I was like, oh, that's a lot
• 43:47
  less than I would have thought, but you said you had, no.
• 43:49
  But it was a hobbyist shop at first.
• 43:51
  It's a hot It was just a personal shopper.
• 43:53
  Yes, never a thing. I mean I would work on maybe one
• 43:56
  customer's car a year. Yeah.
• 43:58
  Here it wasn't really even a customer was like somebody I
• 44:01
  knew or something aside job. Well that's how all the realize
• 44:04
  guys cars ended up at my shop because I've known Eddie since
• 44:07
  he was like, I don't know. How old is he 15 or 16?
• 44:10
  That's funny. Oh my God.
• 44:12
  Like his first Sr swap? I think I was at his house.
• 44:15
  We had the fuel line slipped. Oh yeah.
• 44:17
  Yeah. So it's just cranking and
• 44:19
  cranking. Why would why would it start
• 44:21
  goddamn it? He's so fun.
• 44:24
  Yeah it got to a point where he can you finish my car?
• 44:28
  Oh no. I know what it was.
• 44:29
  He took pictures at my waiting for me and I was going to finish
• 44:33
  his car. I think it was something like
• 44:34
  that. And then eventually John's car
• 44:37
  came and Gary's car came and then Chuck Chuck's always the
• 44:42
  last one, but not all of the cars ended.
• 44:45
  I think that's kind of like what kick-started it.
• 44:47
  I want to say. Oh okay.
• 44:50
  Yeah, because I remember seeing like they had video like Jay on
• 44:53
  that fucking thing. We were talking about before, so
• 44:55
  outside, because they had them on the pallet jack or some shit.
• 44:58
  Oh, yeah. Yeah, Frank.
• 44:59
  Frankie was like. Hey, look.
• 45:00
  That's where they were in that. Yeah.
• 45:02
  I was like, what the fuck? Dude, that's where my mind goes
• 45:04
  because I was like, I didn't I didn't really like, Know that
• 45:09
  you were in the back of the shop?
• 45:10
  Yeah, like I knew it was a peck. See if I was like, I didn't know
• 45:12
  what was going on until, right? Two days ago when I was like,
• 45:15
  all right, time to fucking research this shit real quick
• 45:17
  and then I'm like, oh okay, now it all makes sense.
• 45:19
  Yeah, it was because they all think the tuners are different
• 45:22
  job on what different. Yeah, I've got a shot but we're
• 45:24
  all like, we are different shots were just all under the same,
• 45:27
  which is, I mean, in California. I mean, I don't even want to
• 45:30
  know how much this thing cost. I don't want to know either.
• 45:32
  Yeah, it's real. Like, this in Jersey would be
• 45:36
  like insane. Mmm.
• 45:38
  Yeah. Go and have a good luck.
• 45:39
  Even finding. Yeah.
• 45:40
  Like this a new driving. This is after they downsize
• 45:43
  their old shovels. Huge.
• 45:44
  Yeah, and that was more like, like when did when did they
• 45:48
  downsize, what year? Oh, shoot!
• 45:51
  I don't let me take a guess. Watch this, get the fuck out of
• 45:55
  here. Which are your shit 2008?
• 45:59
  I'm just saying that because it seems like everyone.
• 46:02
  Yeah. When the economy, yeah.
• 46:04
  That sounds about right? Yeah.
• 46:05
  Yeah. That's when everything was
• 46:07
  downsizing, didn't HKS. Leave or some shit.
• 46:09
  Like all these companies just like a bus left.
• 46:11
  Apex apex never. They never left.
• 46:15
  They just kept sustaining what they were doing.
• 46:17
  Yeah. They having obviously back and
• 46:19
  did a lot of cool shit. Yeah.
• 46:21
  I mean few things that like I research I found out after
• 46:24
  coming here is like so apex apex literally wanted to just build
• 46:30
  entire cars. So if you look at their old
• 46:33
  catalogs, they have like brake pads and fluids, and like
• 46:36
  steering wheels. They have like every part, you
• 46:38
  can like imagine. Yeah.
• 46:39
  Uh, so like, but obviously that didn't work out.
• 46:41
  So, I was talking to my sake. I was like, I was like can we
• 46:46
  just update the power of see, man?
• 46:48
  That's all we need to do here. I know Frankie over here walking
• 46:50
  into the into the office. And I'm like, are you going to
• 46:53
  talk shit to him? It is sold out.
• 46:55
  All right, you Joe? All right Mana.
• 46:56
  When are we doing this? When are we update?
• 46:59
  We fail safes. We need to keep the commander
• 47:01
  because that's what we all want, what sells?
• 47:02
  Yeah, that's all. That's all.
• 47:04
  I was like, just add some fail-safes and we're good.
• 47:06
  People just start using it again.
• 47:07
  I mean, it's got its got some fail-safes in there.
• 47:10
  No, no straight up not There isn't what's up.
• 47:16
  What's good at? What it does and only at what it
• 47:18
  does. Yeah.
• 47:19
  Like that's yeah. Sometimes that's all you need,
• 47:21
  ask anything of it. It'll just say, no, I would say
• 47:24
  like a Pixies are good for the, for the, for the neural nerds
• 47:28
  obviously because that's why we want them.
• 47:29
  And to people who like, are going to pay attention to,
• 47:31
  what's going on, right? All right, right?
• 47:33
  If you want to ECU to, you're going to throw it in and you're
• 47:35
  just going to be like, all right, I'm never gonna look at
• 47:36
  the cars. Like I'm not gonna look at
• 47:38
  gauges on my going to look at it.
• 47:40
  Then maybe you should get something else.
• 47:41
  Richard the fabricator. That's his name.
• 47:44
  Richard, Richard me and him had a quick conversation about
• 47:47
  because I said like, yeah, I want to put a beams in my car
• 47:49
  and I know you. I know there's a power of C for
• 47:51
  it and then he was like, yeah, Power of Caesar.
• 47:54
  I feel like more for Fanboys and I was like, fuck me, I guess
• 47:58
  what I mean. I mean that's what it because
• 48:00
  like that that Golden Era that you mentioned earlier.
• 48:03
  That's unfortunately, like though it's gone.
• 48:07
  That's the kind of vibe that I like to see in the community
• 48:10
  which is which exists. Now I feel like and we talked
• 48:13
  about this And time and time. Again, the people that we meet
• 48:18
  more or less they're not a sack of shit like we can we can talk
• 48:22
  to them and the vibe is there. And it still has that same
• 48:26
  feeling that I feel like would be back then, right?
• 48:28
  But everyone's everyone wants to relive that.
• 48:31
  Yeah. And that's that's why weren't
• 48:34
  there. So we like we like to, you know,
• 48:36
  the old videos is, if that's how you want to build.
• 48:38
  That's how I least me. Who's a little more on younger
• 48:42
  scale that didn't live through. Through that want stuff.
• 48:45
  Like a power of c and and all the bling and all likes xpect
• 48:49
  looking shit. A wing that is not functional
• 48:52
  but it's like it's like just the right size where it's a street
• 48:56
  car, you know. Like that's the kind of stuff
• 48:59
  that I wish I was able to live through.
• 49:02
  No I mean I guess it's difference is it's way
• 49:04
  different. Now social media fucked it all
• 49:06
  up. Today.
• 49:14
  Like I wouldn't use the piracy. Yeah.
• 49:16
  Unless I was building like a period-correct, there are
• 49:18
  certain cars, I come in here. I was like, oh, what do you see?
• 49:20
  Should I get? And I look at their car.
• 49:21
  I'm like what are you going to do?
• 49:23
  Like, don't lie to me if you're going to treat drive this thing
• 49:25
  you want it to start. When is cold get a Parsi?
• 49:27
  Yeah you know if you're going to go to track and throw a bunch of
• 49:29
  shit at it, then you know, get another, you see you that you
• 49:31
  can add a bunch of sensors. Yeah.
• 49:33
  Yeah yeah. It really it is good at what it
• 49:36
  does and it does need a suit the bill that you're building, you
• 49:38
  know? Yeah.
• 49:39
  I think the I think the paying attention thing is is a key to
• 49:44
  Yeah, because if you do want to just get in there and drive and
• 49:46
  you wanted to turn off when it's about to break itself.
• 49:48
  Yeah. It's just like the no failsafe
• 49:50
  thing. You know, because like, the, the
• 49:51
  ecu's they make nowadays are kind of idiot proof.
• 49:53
  I feel like the tuner could set it up to be like, yeah, you
• 49:56
  know. Well, that's if the guy spent
• 49:57
  the money on the sensors. Yeah, that's true.
• 49:59
  Another thing it's like, you know, you present a power C for
• 50:01
  however much it cost these days plus, then you say, okay, let's
• 50:05
  just say, like a link Plug and Play or something like that.
• 50:08
  Tryam, try double the price or some shit if you get all the
• 50:10
  sensors. Yeah, it's got to be more than
• 50:12
  double the price. It's just like, you know, it
• 50:14
  What's this one do? It's like, well, you can do
• 50:16
  pretty much anything you want, so but and if the guy goes,
• 50:19
  well, I'm just going to drive it on the weekends.
• 50:21
  Then you don't need to sell ya stuff, you know what I mean?
• 50:23
  So it really does need a suit to build and it's it's good that
• 50:26
  the piracy still exist for that reason.
• 50:29
  Because if it went away, everybody would have to get them
• 50:31
  modernise you that work on spend three times a month.
• 50:33
  Raising its money on it. Yeah, not to mention find a
• 50:37
  tuner that knows what he's doing to I mean I guess I don't need
• 50:40
  to worry about the hell. Yeah, well that was gonna be my
• 50:42
  other thing. I wanted to bring up to It's
• 50:44
  like you also have kind of a different view on things because
• 50:47
  you grew up in California to and we grew up in, you know, New
• 50:50
  Jersey. So we never got to see, like,
• 50:54
  this crazy. I don't know everything.
• 50:57
  Here is just like, like, we, like we said, earlier, is like
• 50:59
  the Pinnacle of like us car culture.
• 51:02
  Yeah, I means, I don't know. I just still damn baffled that
• 51:06
  this is the Hub with all the shit.
• 51:08
  Like don't the law because weird, because New Jersey.
• 51:11
  Now, it makes sense though across the Japan.
• 51:14
  So I guess we are the closest. Yeah.
• 51:16
  This is that the reason I say that is all comes through
• 51:20
  California. As far as I think it's a
• 51:22
  weatherman, the weather helps. Yeah, but but here's the thing,
• 51:26
  like in New Jersey and New York and all the east coast states
• 51:30
  and wherever honestly, you can get an imported car.
• 51:32
  The, the novelty of, for example, I was driving to go get
• 51:37
  groceries and I saw an ER, 34 on the other side of the road just
• 51:41
  driving past. Yes.
• 51:42
  And I was like, Like what was that?
• 51:46
  An are 34 and back, back a few more years ago if you saw in our
• 51:50
  34 driving on the street, the novelty of seeing one would be
• 51:53
  like, holy fuckin are dirty whore shit, but now it's gone.
• 51:57
  And I feel like here if you saw in our 34 driving on the street,
• 52:01
  you would be like huh? Holy shit.
• 52:04
  Like I mean if you know, like you do see like, you know, are
• 52:08
  32 33. Now that 33 is nobody replies.
• 52:14
  3333. Yeah.
• 52:16
  But you know, nobody else does. Yeah, I like 34 is more though.
• 52:19
  Still everybody likes 34. Yeah.
• 52:21
  But 33 I like more than a 32 to. Yeah.
• 52:24
  But by being here, like I've seen so many 34s, so they are
• 52:29
  here. Oh, fuck.
• 52:30
  Yeah. Even though register Montana.
• 52:34
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:34
  They're all or is it just registered as a maximum?
• 52:38
  Yes. South Dakota Montana, or dealer
• 52:40
  plates. Okay.
• 52:41
  That's how you drive dealer plates.
• 52:42
  Is another one. Yeah.
• 52:44
  Am I mistaken that you also made knuckles in the post?
• 52:48
  I wanted to bring that up because I see on the fender of
• 52:51
  the realized guys. It says rival knuckle.
• 52:55
  I was bored. I remember was bored.
• 52:59
  So I made some knuckles. I remember the first time, you
• 53:02
  know, this is this is okay. When I started drifting we
• 53:04
  didn't have knuckles. Okay yeah, it wasn't a thing.
• 53:06
  Yeah, you just drift with stock. We all had those teen spacers on
• 53:11
  the inner tie rod. You had.
• 53:12
  We didn't know, we didn't know what.
• 53:13
  As we don't know what fucking scrubbers.
• 53:15
  Yeah, you know, cars drove better with it.
• 53:17
  And that's all it was. And then one day, some guy, came
• 53:20
  to the track and he had like the first generation parshat Maxwell
• 53:24
  down thing. Yeah, I remember.
• 53:25
  Okay. Yeah.
• 53:26
  So he had that odd and this thing had obvious is nothing
• 53:29
  now, but it has so much more. Oh yeah.
• 53:32
  Nice Jay, what is that? You know, it was like the
• 53:35
  weirdest thing. So after seeing that and at the
• 53:39
  time you know, it was I mean there's a lot of guys have big
• 53:42
  Knuckles but to me, it was It was just, I was born.
• 53:45
  I was trying to kick out. I'm like, what does all this
• 53:47
  stuff do? So, you know, I looked into
• 53:49
  suspension, all the scrub radius with the spacers and then the
• 53:52
  whole actor, man or what you want.
• 53:54
  Yeah, you can go real deep into that.
• 53:55
  I don't even want to go. Oh, my God, this shit is making
• 53:59
  my head hurt trying to think about that, but I probably met,
• 54:02
  like, six different versions of it.
• 54:03
  Yeah, right. Like so many different offsets,
• 54:05
  but at the end of the day is preference.
• 54:07
  My yeah. It is, it is all it is, you
• 54:09
  know, how it feels when you're out, right?
• 54:11
  I like a lot of castor, I like self-centering.
• 54:13
  Our setups, you like a snappier, quick kind of, I think that's
• 54:18
  more driving style. Like if you hold it longer
• 54:20
  before you flick it it's going to be Snappy.
• 54:22
  Yeah, but to me like I my favorite driver is a knob HKS.
• 54:27
  Yeah, he's like the smoothest fucking guy.
• 54:29
  He doesn't do hard flicks. Yeah, like in my opinion.
• 54:32
  So like I think I tend to try to drive more like that which is
• 54:35
  also what everybody calls like the lazy way of driving it.
• 54:37
  Yeah, I know it is that I feel like it's it takes a lot more
• 54:39
  control to keep a car from yes. And no.
• 54:43
  It's Like a Smooth Operator type driving style right?
• 54:46
  Like high Caster self-center. You could you could like slow
• 54:49
  the wheel down with your hand versus like chasing it really?
• 54:51
  Yeah, it's a different style of driving, huh?
• 54:54
  But anyways, yeah, I made a bunch of different Knuckles and
• 54:56
  at the time it was just I mean it worked.
• 55:01
  It was relatively cheap, I guess.
• 55:03
  Yeah. And all the local guys.
• 55:05
  They're just like oh let's just let's just you know, can you
• 55:07
  make me something like okay so did you like make a jig?
• 55:11
  So I've made like two different Jigs and I used to do Okay.
• 55:14
  How wide are your wheels? How big are your fenders?
• 55:17
  He'd really like, are you doing curve tension?
• 55:19
  Rods. Are you doing a sway bar?
• 55:21
  So I would try to suit their car.
• 55:23
  That's amazing. And it got so annoying.
• 55:25
  Yes, I live here. Sounds like a shitload of work
• 55:27
  like this is a setup. This is off that you're going to
• 55:29
  run. This is a cafeteria.
• 55:32
  So this is what you do. Okay.
• 55:33
  So scratch all that. Now, you're going to build a car
• 55:35
  like this. Here's your knuckle.
• 55:37
  Yeah. So that's cool though.
• 55:38
  I never heard of any any company that sells Knuckles, catering
• 55:43
  like that. It's so that was pretty intense.
• 55:44
  Recently found out some guy came over here, the company called
• 55:49
  like wysteria. He offers four different styles
• 55:51
  of Knuckles from the chassis and he'll tell you what knuckle is
• 55:55
  what Ackerman different. That's what full of driving.
• 55:58
  I think that's cool. Yeah, yeah but I mean at the end
• 56:01
  of the day did I this chassis? You can put any fucking strategy
• 56:04
  is the best drift car ever it is.
• 56:06
  I just that drifting to me is like a joke when I get in the
• 56:09
  car like they're like oh well your setups not that I'm like
• 56:11
  dude it works like a fucking works.
• 56:13
  So I'm just gonna I feel like that's that's a common Trend
• 56:16
  though, with again, some people like really nerd out though.
• 56:19
  It's all fucking generation, bro.
• 56:21
  That it's the access to the internet changed everything.
• 56:24
  Because in a matter of a few hours, you can have compiled so
• 56:28
  much information about one topic because you can just Google it.
• 56:32
  That's so bad too. Because, okay, so there was a
• 56:35
  period of time where like competition driving and in
• 56:38
  California competition, driving has always been a thing and
• 56:40
  like, you know, it started off as like a, i This car.
• 56:44
  Let's go compete in to like, okay, let's start building cars
• 56:46
  and everybody started building these cars Like Crazy Billy's.
• 56:50
  Yeah, these kids would show up with, like, full blown FD cars,
• 56:53
  and they've never drift everything.
• 56:54
  Yeah, and it's just like, dude, what are you doing?
• 56:56
  Well, we got the same thing over by, I was good.
• 56:58
  I was waiting for Frankie to chime in here but it's funny
• 57:01
  because you said competition driving has always been a thing
• 57:03
  and to be honest and East Coast, there's no, not really, there's
• 57:06
  nothing over there. I mean, exact not, there was
• 57:08
  drag racing like when I was growing up, drag racing was like
• 57:11
  a thing but now Englishtown got rid of the dragster.
• 57:14
  So it's like it into the Eddy. Yeah.
• 57:16
  Figure eight, four fingers, right?
• 57:17
  Yeah, so I mean, there's multiple reasons for that but
• 57:20
  they like, rent it out some space and stuff, huh?
• 57:22
  But yeah. So, that was really hit.
• 57:24
  We don't have like, I mean a Kate like autocross, I guess.
• 57:29
  But like, did I think California?
• 57:31
  I don't know. I, maybe I'm stereotyping but,
• 57:34
  you know, California. But you guys got nice weather.
• 57:36
  It makes sense. You got you guys got good tracks
• 57:38
  to. I mean, Willis, we do this good
• 57:39
  tracks, but I think everybody here like, hello, waspy better
• 57:42
  than others. I oh yeah.
• 57:46
  Yeah, it's just like oh how do I stack up against other guys?
• 57:50
  Yeah, I'm better than you like, no.
• 57:52
  But but that just becomes like, oh I need the best equipment
• 57:55
  blah blah. I think it gives you a purpose
• 57:58
  and that's why I like even even if you're doing a random track
• 58:02
  day and there happens to be markers, give you like a good
• 58:06
  goal, it gives you a goal, that's, that's good, but what
• 58:09
  you're saying with, like building the ruined, it ruined
• 58:12
  it for a bunch of people. During that era because they
• 58:14
  spend so much money building these things.
• 58:16
  And it's just like, well, you should probably learn how to
• 58:18
  drive. Yeah, that's a common thing by I
• 58:21
  think. So, because the weight again,
• 58:25
  I'm the way I did it. And the way that I feel like is
• 58:29
  dying breed is to literally just get in your car and try to drift
• 58:33
  and try to drift. Yeah, I know.
• 58:34
  That's what we all plain-jane. Yeah.
• 58:35
  Yeah. Like and then I will does this
• 58:37
  work. Yeah.
• 58:37
  And then I will be trying to tell our customers and try to
• 58:41
  tell everyone just slowly adding stuff as As we go.
• 58:44
  And like, if first it was a div and then I'm like oh you know
• 58:47
  what? The suspensions kind of soft
• 58:49
  switch from shock and spring to coilovers and then oh, you know
• 58:52
  what? Maybe now's the time for an
• 58:54
  angle kid. Took me years to get a car with
• 58:56
  an angle kid because I didn't see the need.
• 58:58
  They want to skip all that and you know I don't understand why
• 59:03
  though because you're just spending more money.
• 59:05
  What the fuck I was just saying most of the time.
• 59:08
  Yeah, it's their parents money. So sometimes like it's one of
• 59:11
  those situations where I mean, If you have the means to do it
• 59:15
  go, you know, be by all means. Yeah.
• 59:18
  But you know, if you're, if you're trying to make this thing
• 59:21
  work and just because you saw some guy on YouTube or some guy
• 59:24
  on the internet saying like, oh, you know, this is what you need
• 59:26
  to go. It's like, no, it's really not.
• 59:28
  Yeah, I think there's a guy in at Shaw know, at a final bout
• 59:32
  that showed that, that that a true Testament to that
• 59:36
  statement, which would it was, his name is Julio.
• 59:38
  I think he had the yellow s13 with like a weird.
• 59:43
  It was like a 1617 stagger and the SR that I heard.
• 59:49
  It wasn't even like crazily worked, but he won.
• 59:53
  Oh well. And there you go.
• 59:55
  And like that to me, I'm like, I don't know if I don't know
• 59:59
  anything else that would prove that point better than that.
• 1:00:01
  Because again, you get like, the, you know, the form experts.
• 1:00:05
  Are you just got lucky? Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  Like, but but he's a great driver and there's no other
• 1:00:10
  excuse for it then, except for the guy can wheel.
• 1:00:12
  Like, here's the Like we always say this to, it's like, yeah, if
• 1:00:17
  you got a long as you had all the money in the world, you can
• 1:00:18
  build the car like that, but even then I would still stop you
• 1:00:21
  and be like it's better to learn the other way.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, no, I agree. I know.
• 1:00:26
  I mean, you know you don't necessarily need to go out in
• 1:00:29
  86. Yeah.
• 1:00:30
  They can all of 50 horsepower. Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  You know but you also don't need 800 horsepower to me.
• 1:00:35
  It's the it's the angle mods where I'm like stop like just go
• 1:00:39
  out there with stock Knuckles. Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  And go spin out. Watch to see what It does.
• 1:00:44
  I will say though to add on to that that yeah, I got that.
• 1:00:48
  I got some like, angle kid. It was like a bolt on thing for
• 1:00:50
  the is we all know like, you know, the ISS suspension setup.
• 1:00:54
  But once I got that angle kit coming from, something that
• 1:00:58
  never had an angle kit, all my other cars, never had angle
• 1:01:00
  kids. I got that and I was like, what
• 1:01:03
  the fuck? This is so easy, but don't you
• 1:01:05
  also see how if you started with that?
• 1:01:09
  Yeah, you would rely on it and then and it would have made you
• 1:01:12
  kind of because if you jump Another car, you would not be
• 1:01:15
  able to drift. Let's say, let's say, you got
• 1:01:17
  really good and now you're like the best one at your track and
• 1:01:20
  then a guy comes Joe drive my car and you're like, okay and
• 1:01:22
  he's got stock Knuckles just been lucky, you're spinning out
• 1:01:25
  all day and out all day. And I think that's what I'm
• 1:01:27
  grateful for. It is like I learned how to
• 1:01:29
  drive, not just the one car, I learned how to drive in general.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah. And you kind of understand
• 1:01:34
  things a little bit better that way which is lacking in that the
• 1:01:39
  younger kids who are getting into it.
• 1:01:40
  Like a guy that's comes, you know, starts driving on a wise.
• 1:01:43
  If a person do do think that's how yourself in the foot right
• 1:01:46
  there, you get a guy like that and you tell them to drift that
• 1:01:49
  low angle to pick up speed. Yeah, that concept doesn't make
• 1:01:51
  sense. Of course not the car.
• 1:01:53
  The car won't even like work like that, right?
• 1:01:55
  Stood, watching weisfeld Cars drift was like, the most painful
• 1:01:58
  thing I've ever seen good. I thought it was a cool as shit.
• 1:02:00
  The first like E30. I think it was.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah, you know, the picture of into the front where it's like,
• 1:02:04
  well, did you literally? Yeah, got to be photoshopped,
• 1:02:07
  but they decided we would see it in person because Justin, who is
• 1:02:11
  on and Scott who now moves North Carolina.
• 1:02:15
  They both had wise Fab on their cars.
• 1:02:17
  We went to final bout. Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  And that was when it was new. Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  We're you know, we figured out you cool shit.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah. Kind of, yeah.
• 1:02:24
  And they made the wheels fit under the fenders and
• 1:02:26
  everything. So it was like, it was pretty
• 1:02:27
  sick. Probably needed like some wildly
• 1:02:29
  high off. So yeah.
• 1:02:30
  It was ridiculous camp. We had the type, they had the
• 1:02:33
  type 3 fenders when they just came out.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah. Like all that stuff.
• 1:02:36
  So it was cool because most wise to have cars were, you know,
• 1:02:39
  looking like formula, right? Right.
• 1:02:41
  But then I would see Scott at The Hairpin at eat Town.
• 1:02:44
  Like I'd be in the stands and I'd see him.
• 1:02:46
  And I'm like, this is the most boring form of drifting I've
• 1:02:50
  ever watched in my entire life. He's literally just 90 over like
• 1:02:53
  90 degrees or more. Just going like, one mile an
• 1:02:55
  hour. No, but that's the problem.
• 1:02:57
  If you have wise Fab, you need to have the power.
• 1:02:59
  Yeah. You got to have some ridiculous
• 1:03:01
  power. So, like, I've had, I've had a
• 1:03:03
  wife have car. I love wife abrir because I like
• 1:03:06
  rear grip. Okay, that's five, never
• 1:03:07
  experienced. That was going to say to your y.
• 1:03:10
  Be the first person to mention Rider wise Fabrics.
• 1:03:13
  All my conch car. When I was competing in like
• 1:03:16
  program, I had a wife, a front and I drove it.
• 1:03:18
  I'm like, okay, I get why people use it, but I don't have enough
• 1:03:20
  power entire to use this. Yeah, so I took it off to put in
• 1:03:24
  less angle to pick up more speed and the thing about its chassis,
• 1:03:27
  we all under compression dato out.
• 1:03:30
  Yeah. But on the Y side, you could
• 1:03:31
  actually change like the position.
• 1:03:32
  So under compression will toe in so you get a lot more for, okay?
• 1:03:36
  So you're essentially just great gaining mechanical grip.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah. Within the tire that you're
• 1:03:40
  going to run. So to me all my car It was just
• 1:03:44
  cut, knuckles in the front and Y is 5 in the rear that work?
• 1:03:46
  Fucking great. Yeah, I mean, the rear set up is
• 1:03:48
  definitely important. Oh, dude.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, that makes sense. I got to check that out.
• 1:03:52
  I'm sure there's other companies that make those Knuckles and
• 1:03:54
  PBM. I was going to say, yes PBM,
• 1:03:56
  make some people have makes the pro kit where, you know, it's
• 1:03:58
  like the because I have sure thing with the holes, okay?
• 1:04:01
  So the lower you put it, the more, it'll Tow, and I have
• 1:04:03
  their standard rear drop, Knuckle from back in the day,
• 1:04:07
  like, seven years ago, maybe basically you just need the rear
• 1:04:11
  tow arm lower. Yeah, compresses.
• 1:04:14
  It'll actually tow it. Yeah, that's so you wanted to
• 1:04:17
  tell him? Yeah, definitely.
• 1:04:18
  Yeah. The way you describe stuff in
• 1:04:19
  the way that and the way he'll have been describing stuff is
• 1:04:22
  such a very in-depth way that I can tell that you definitely
• 1:04:26
  want trial and error. I don't want a lot of them.
• 1:04:28
  They take different. Like, when you describe stuff to
• 1:04:30
  me, I'm like, damn this guy. Fucking definitely tried it and
• 1:04:32
  it didn't work. The first time to me, all you
• 1:04:36
  want, until I try it. I don't know what the hell, you
• 1:04:38
  know. Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Mad respect for you in that aspect.
• 1:04:41
  That's crazy because again, that's That's something that's
• 1:04:45
  that's lacking. I feel like when you talk to a
• 1:04:47
  lot of people who are even even a few of the people who have
• 1:04:50
  been doing it for years, it they did when they talk about
• 1:04:53
  something. It's not as in depth and as
• 1:04:55
  sounds like you analyze a lot of shit.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah. Like probably.
• 1:05:00
  Yeah. You have no ground.
• 1:05:02
  See. No gray hair is up there, like
• 1:05:04
  it. Yeah, you're lucky.
• 1:05:06
  But no, that's, that's again like something to be admired
• 1:05:09
  about the shop because I'm interested in Other business can
• 1:05:14
  we talk? Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  No. Yeah we sure can't.
• 1:05:16
  Okay. It's totally non related to
• 1:05:19
  cars. Know, we like that.
• 1:05:20
  Yeah, because it shows that there's more to a person only
• 1:05:23
  fell into it because my parents were doing it, okay.
• 1:05:26
  I think it was like 20 or something.
• 1:05:27
  I tried to hold JC thing for a few years and my dad just sat me
• 1:05:30
  down. He's like hey man, are you going
• 1:05:32
  to work? Are going to go to school I'm
• 1:05:34
  like I'm at work. Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  So I started learning what he's doing so it's actually a dental
• 1:05:38
  lab, okay? I make crowns and veneers oh
• 1:05:41
  shit. Okay and that Been doing since.
• 1:05:46
  I guess you have 20 so while 20 years now and I've had my own
• 1:05:51
  office for about 15 years. Wow, that's awesome.
• 1:05:55
  What the fuck right? Like it hot.
• 1:05:58
  That's easy. Like that's the shit that no one
• 1:06:00
  would have ever known. Yeah that's funny.
• 1:06:02
  All the local guys that know me they know that I do that.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah. Yeah but yeah obviously nobody
• 1:06:06
  else. Why the fuck would I say?
• 1:06:08
  So veneers? You gotta explain this to me are
• 1:06:10
  those like caps? Okay, so yeah, what?
• 1:06:14
  It calls a caps. Get.
• 1:06:17
  So, when you get like a veneer basically, as a cosmetic thing,
• 1:06:20
  it is. Okay, so don't shave off.
• 1:06:22
  Oh God, I'm in both of the throw up.
• 1:06:23
  No, no. Most of the times you just shave
• 1:06:25
  off a little bit of your front teeth.
• 1:06:26
  Oh, and then they just put something over it crowns or caps
• 1:06:30
  is like when you get a cavity and then you'll get a root
• 1:06:32
  canal. Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  It make it into a little stumped and they make your fake to.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah that's this. This is a crown.
• 1:06:37
  There you go. You have a crowd in so it's a
• 1:06:39
  stump under there. Yep, I broke my tooth when I was
• 1:06:42
  14 on a playground. Know it's funny.
• 1:06:44
  So now because I'm in the industry when I talk to people a
• 1:06:46
  You look at teeth and I know you have a.
• 1:06:47
  Yeah. Yeah, it's super obvious.
• 1:06:51
  Just because of colors. A little.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah, the colors. And honestly, wow.
• 1:06:54
  No, that's just didn't do that great.
• 1:06:58
  Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.
• 1:07:00
  She liked your front teeth girl. Thank you.
• 1:07:02
  Yeah, I appreciate that. Frankie, that is what I do.
• 1:07:05
  Damn, that's cool. So, so so dental, lab funded the
• 1:07:09
  cars when I first started, I was working like 16 hours a day 7
• 1:07:15
  days a week. For like a year.
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, get me wrong. I had a fuck ton of money at the
• 1:07:19
  time at that age. Yeah.
• 1:07:20
  Just like, I have no time. This is in your 20s.
• 1:07:22
  You had a shitload of money. Oh my God.
• 1:07:24
  Dangerous dangerous, dangerous game.
• 1:07:28
  Ha ha ha. I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 1:07:33
  No, no, yeah, it was good money for my age.
• 1:07:36
  Yeah, of course. And I did, all of, which goes
• 1:07:39
  back to the 86. So, when I told my buddy, I'm
• 1:07:43
  like, hey, I have a business. I have some money to play around
• 1:07:45
  with With, let's build a new car.
• 1:07:47
  And yeah. All right.
• 1:07:48
  Let's build an 86. So my circle of friends at the
• 1:07:51
  time, we're all rotary guys. So my buddy guy named Henry
• 1:07:56
  Shelly. He used to run ft long time ago.
• 1:07:59
  He started fabricating or tomasa tricks out the time and Kyle
• 1:08:04
  Mohan? Yes!
• 1:08:05
  Still is there. So calm will handed D1 in a FB
• 1:08:08
  chassis? Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:08:10
  Okay, so that motor I got from him and put it in my 860 rotary.
• 1:08:15
  Yeah. So I had engines probably
• 1:08:17
  insane. No it's not.
• 1:08:19
  It's a 13 B Street ported carbureted on the Apex.
• 1:08:24
  Dino made 141. Love it.
• 1:08:26
  Yeah. But I think probably sounded
• 1:08:28
  sick car ready. So there's no red line that
• 1:08:31
  think. Oh and the RPM gauge somehow
• 1:08:32
  work made it work somehow because it was an SR5 chassis.
• 1:08:35
  Okay, we just based it off like the clothes single.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah so the think what rev like past, whatever date or what is
• 1:08:41
  whatever? Yellowed it broke to GTS rear
• 1:08:45
  end Is it broke three FB Transmissions?
• 1:08:48
  But the engine engine overheated pissing water everywhere.
• 1:08:52
  Never skipped a beat. I like this is a greatest
• 1:08:55
  fucking engine carbureted car rated rotaries, dude.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, that's the ticket. Just be sure is always above
• 1:09:01
  like 67 gravity. That's cool.
• 1:09:04
  I never I never got into rotaries and that's just because
• 1:09:07
  of your Chris. My Chris, we won't touch him.
• 1:09:10
  I see Chris what he was the buddy so when I when I got his
• 1:09:14
  he wants to learn about him but he just I would love to maybe
• 1:09:17
  maybe just like, if I find one for cheap, put it on a stand,
• 1:09:19
  take it apart, put it back. That's what I would like to do.
• 1:09:21
  Look at is the simplest. I know.
• 1:09:24
  And that's why, but I you just literally stack things.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah. It's like, oh, how should we
• 1:09:29
  just put another one? Yeah.
• 1:09:31
  All right. Yeah, we have some rotary
• 1:09:33
  friends that come by the shop. Yeah.
• 1:09:34
  Every once in a while and they always show me photos and it was
• 1:09:37
  got like the bucket. They have a bucket and that's
• 1:09:39
  how they build the road around. Ya know, knows that we made a,
• 1:09:43
  we made a little angle iron stand.
• 1:09:45
  So we could Bolt the iron Okay, back at ya.
• 1:09:47
  They take they will you take a bucket or something and they
• 1:09:49
  build it like stacking it up, it's so funny.
• 1:09:51
  Interesting because what's funny is on out on our side that was
• 1:09:57
  really popular in the Bronx or what rotaries rotary swapped 86.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah, my dad would literally be Ash.
• 1:10:04
  Town drug drag racing, and Puerto Ricans Puerto Rican
• 1:10:08
  people in the Bronx in love. 86 is a, my dad grew up in that era
• 1:10:12
  where Yeah, I'm Filipino. So you know not really a lot of
• 1:10:19
  Filipinos into cars in the 80s in that area.
• 1:10:22
  I feel like that maybe that dude SoCal.
• 1:10:25
  Filipino uncle's have all the old Toyotas all of them.
• 1:10:29
  That all of my roommates dad is one of them.
• 1:10:32
  Okay. Has literally every generation
• 1:10:34
  Toyota from Maize. No parts.
• 1:10:38
  No, no, no. He has four for a G's in his
• 1:10:41
  garage. I was like, so do you do what
• 1:10:43
  are you And with those like one day.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, I'm like, seriously that's how it go, bro.
• 1:10:48
  I would say it's the same kind of culture of Puerto Rican
• 1:10:51
  people, and the rotaries it was, it was literally, so condensed.
• 1:10:55
  That if there's an 86 for sale and it's in New York before, you
• 1:11:00
  can even see a picture of that engine bay area, I'm just going
• 1:11:03
  to assume that it had a rotary in it.
• 1:11:05
  Oh yeah. All of me.
• 1:11:06
  And I think there was like, one other guy in SoCal.
• 1:11:08
  That did it. Oh my God.
• 1:11:09
  Yeah. But, you know, that was a
• 1:11:11
  terrible. So you put that thing in your in
• 1:11:13
  your 86. Yeah, well I didn't do it.
• 1:11:15
  So Henry he was the one. He's the one that made all the
• 1:11:19
  balance and we have to cut the tranny tonic because the drive.
• 1:11:21
  Yeah, Centerline is so high but now he somehow got that thing
• 1:11:25
  together. There's nothing to wire up.
• 1:11:27
  It was carbureted. So you just wired.
• 1:11:29
  All right. Oh wait yeah I'm like no wires.
• 1:11:32
  No, it's like it's like let me pump the gas a couple of times
• 1:11:35
  here. All I had to do was just pay for
• 1:11:37
  the damn thing. You know why all the JDM bumpers
• 1:11:40
  at the time did I had was like a Cokie bumpers.
• 1:11:44
  You live. I heard that that shit is in
• 1:11:47
  basement possible to get right now.
• 1:11:48
  Oh no. You can't--no did?
• 1:11:49
  I bought like that? And like a, like a was it like a
• 1:11:52
  cheap plus side of the chadian rear?
• 1:11:54
  Bouge blood off 1,000 bucks or something?
• 1:11:58
  Yeah, dude. Now you can't you can't even
• 1:12:00
  find out live anymore. Yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Ha comes in the shop and always says that shit.
• 1:12:04
  He's like he's like be happy. You were going Nissan's because
• 1:12:07
  you can buy all these shifts, the right, right.
• 1:12:09
  He's like, Corolla shit, not a chance but so that was your
• 1:12:12
  first drift car really. So, It was technically my first
• 1:12:15
  drift called I mean I did drift this are that I blew up.
• 1:12:17
  Yeah but like you know I drift for a month like now you know
• 1:12:21
  your first drift car, you go to a parking lot and you get to
• 1:12:23
  learn how to Donuts. You're just like, oh my God.
• 1:12:26
  Oh my God, I will forever, literally cutting class and the
• 1:12:33
  first, I think the first track event wasn't a 240 and then
• 1:12:35
  after that the curl I drove for a while.
• 1:12:38
  Yeah. And then eventually, I just
• 1:12:40
  wanted a little bit more power. I guess I would think I mean it
• 1:12:45
  was fun. I'm sure it was fun.
• 1:12:46
  Reven things out to kingdom comes out but yeah like every
• 1:12:52
  time you spin out, it would just flooded just start shooting fire
• 1:12:55
  out the back event. Yeah I did eventually I would
• 1:12:58
  have been like I'm kind of tired of adjusting these carbs.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah. No one else.
• 1:13:02
  So every time it would just start up everything.
• 1:13:04
  The guy of Martha tricks, the older guy, forgot his name was a
• 1:13:08
  John. I took it there.
• 1:13:10
  He literally did like what you would see in the video like he
• 1:13:13
  fucking read it a few times. X Twisted, a couple of knobs
• 1:13:15
  revs a few times. I never had to touch it after
• 1:13:17
  that. Wow, it started up hot cold.
• 1:13:19
  Didn't give a shit, dude. Yeah, what the fuck?
• 1:13:22
  Yeah, I was like okay, he knows what he's doing example point in
• 1:13:25
  case go to a specialist. Yeah, I've never adjusted those
• 1:13:28
  cars. Never even cleaned it.
• 1:13:30
  It was the weirdest thing. How long did you have that car
• 1:13:32
  for acting for at least two years, like every month?
• 1:13:37
  And what, what year was it about?
• 1:13:39
  When you have this Carb Day, a science rotary terrible with
• 1:13:43
  years? You are a fucking early 2000s.
• 1:14:13
  Either Pro-Am, why did that happen?
• 1:14:15
  Because now we're getting, we're crawling into.
• 1:14:18
  So I'm going to say sub 2010. Yeah, when that that's a crazy,
• 1:14:24
  that's crazy progression to the VQ 0.
• 1:14:28
  Okay? So the guy that put the rotary
• 1:14:30
  in my 86, he had a Katie and he did formula D at the time.
• 1:14:35
  Okay, if you looked up a federal federal tire car, he was like
• 1:14:40
  the only one who ran it for like a year.
• 1:14:41
  What was his name? Henry, Shelly.
• 1:14:43
  Got a pink ass. See.
• 1:14:45
  But anyways, he was building this vqs 13.
• 1:14:49
  So he could, you know, supercharger turbo charger or
• 1:14:51
  whatever. Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  And they were cheap at the time. The motors was I going to do
• 1:14:55
  this? They started building it and
• 1:14:56
  then you know, stuff happen, never finished it.
• 1:14:58
  So he's like hey man you want this thing?
• 1:15:00
  I'm like okay work that he works at that time you worked at am
• 1:15:05
  okay. Their local to or their?
• 1:15:08
  Yeah, A&M's torrents probably. Okay, 30 40 minutes.
• 1:15:11
  So you worked at a and Papa Doc is rendered Z.
• 1:15:16
  Yeah. But nobody had an issue for a
• 1:15:18
  VQ. So am had a file like an
• 1:15:21
  internal file of how to wire a Honda 1050, box to a VQ engine.
• 1:15:26
  And this is probably a while since it came out because it
• 1:15:29
  came out 03. Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  But they were to the drive by wire stuff.
• 1:15:32
  Oh yeah. So like that VQ was running on a
• 1:15:36
  Honda, four-cylinder batch fire and all that stuff.
• 1:15:39
  Custom pipe welded to a Honda throttle body, which had the MAF
• 1:15:42
  sensor and DPS on to it. It.
• 1:15:45
  So it was like this weird Frankenstein.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, but it worked. I think fucking works the store
• 1:15:50
  run. I love that.
• 1:15:51
  I love hearing that kind of shit.
• 1:15:53
  I mean, I put it together, I didn't know what I was doing.
• 1:15:56
  I put it together, drove it to Pro-Am.
• 1:15:59
  I got my Pro license. So I think the first year I got
• 1:16:01
  my license is when they started implementing the Pearl to Jose
• 1:16:04
  back when this was achievable. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:07
  So that year, I could have ran Pro 1 or Purl.
• 1:16:11
  Two, that was a one year. They died.
• 1:16:13
  Oh yeah. I don't know what year that was.
• 1:16:16
  And then, you know, at the time it's like, hey man, do I spent
• 1:16:18
  all this money that I have to do this Pro driving thing or get
• 1:16:22
  married and buy a house. It is about the same price
• 1:16:24
  because God is so you have the same price.
• 1:16:29
  Okay. Oh, thank God.
• 1:16:30
  I was about to be like 'hot. Damn, the priority.
• 1:16:34
  So did you did you did events though, right?
• 1:16:36
  You did it. Did you do any events?
• 1:16:37
  No, I didn't do any. Okay, yeah, it was.
• 1:16:40
  I've worked with f. I've worked with teams that I
• 1:16:42
  was. Ya, deaf TV.
• 1:16:44
  Hence. Yeah.
• 1:16:45
  But you weren't driving any of them?
• 1:16:46
  No, no, I wasn't driving. Okay.
• 1:16:47
  Yeah. Like the Dean Dean when he first
• 1:16:50
  got the Viper, I wire that. Okay, yeah, I remember that
• 1:16:53
  robbing the shit I had to ask 300.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah, I wire that thing. So, when tiger came the first
• 1:16:59
  year, I was in with them, but the second year I was on Bridges
• 1:17:03
  racing Brian's? A good friend.
• 1:17:05
  So, I mean, we did all the FDA rounds.
• 1:17:07
  I was fun. Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah. But sound sick, it is fun but
• 1:17:11
  it's like a lot of work and hectic.
• 1:17:14
  Is what I would guess. Like if I can make it work, I
• 1:17:17
  will try to do it but like, I'm not going to gain anything from.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, you know, it's like a rather.
• 1:17:22
  Just do local fun events. Yeah, but I do like competition.
• 1:17:25
  So I signed up for the competition.
• 1:17:26
  This year. Uh-huh.
• 1:17:27
  So like I don't have time to fix my car so I bought a buddy's
• 1:17:29
  car, you know, this is literally a trend.
• 1:17:34
  That's I bought his car and fixing a bunch of little things
• 1:17:37
  on is a to Jay has 13. I was the one outside.
• 1:17:40
  Yeah. So I was building a 836 to try
• 1:17:42
  it out because everybody like, you know, Love seat.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, everyone does say that, right?
• 1:17:46
  So I'm have another E36 with the to j in it.
• 1:17:49
  That is not finished. I will finish it in, try it.
• 1:17:52
  Hopefully I don't like it cause I fucking hate.
• 1:17:54
  I was just going to say your I don't see you as I'm not gonna
• 1:17:59
  ever try it but it's good that you are.
• 1:18:02
  Yeah, every time I tandem with an E36, I don't know, I don't
• 1:18:08
  know why, but every BMW person is like yeah, that's that BMW
• 1:18:12
  rear grip there. Well the prospect Actually told
• 1:18:14
  exactly that's what I was going to assume.
• 1:18:16
  No. But like, so the VA card that I
• 1:18:18
  used to drive, did I got hit all three times by E36?
• 1:18:22
  Has, I don't like 8:30 season but I hear I am building one.
• 1:18:26
  Yeah. And I talked to Palmer because
• 1:18:27
  he drives an E36. Okay.
• 1:18:29
  It's like dude, it's the fucking greatest thing.
• 1:18:30
  Yeah. Like I think Julian jumps in his
• 1:18:32
  car. His like this isn't so good.
• 1:18:34
  Okay. I'm just like okay I'm gonna try
• 1:18:35
  it. Yeah we got to do a podcast with
• 1:18:37
  him too. I would love to man, they love
• 1:18:40
  their routing. Other one doing podcasts.
• 1:18:42
  Really like consistently like this.
• 1:18:44
  I feel like, but it's just like the rear grip of thing and I'm
• 1:18:50
  like, I'm like, I can't, I can't succumb myself to that.
• 1:18:54
  Being the reason why E36 is good.
• 1:18:57
  Well, I hope that's probably the, whenever whenever that
• 1:18:59
  comes into conversation, I'm like, I just have to drive
• 1:19:01
  better then nicely. That's the case.
• 1:19:03
  It's a front steer car. I mean, it's literally set up to
• 1:19:07
  go drifting. Yeah, I mean that s13 you got
• 1:19:10
  outside lookin real driftable. I like 13.
• 1:19:13
  Like I said, Driven so many different.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah, I've tried like, not personally but like, you know, I
• 1:19:18
  go to track event. So I was like, I was instructing
• 1:19:21
  at a few events, okay. Back in the day and like, you
• 1:19:24
  know, guy would bring like an FRS or an RX-8 or like any rear
• 1:19:27
  wheel drive cars? Like, hey man, I want to do
• 1:19:29
  this. I was like, okay, well here let
• 1:19:31
  me try it and like all the chassis kind of sucks.
• 1:19:34
  I like this chassis. Yeah.
• 1:19:36
  Well there's it's always like, you get into one of those cars.
• 1:19:39
  Yeah. This will work.
• 1:19:40
  But yeah. How much water?
• 1:19:42
  How much do you want to make it? Were Josh Tolley, says the same
• 1:19:45
  thing to everyone that talks to him.
• 1:19:46
  He's like he'll literally just be like from Front Street.
• 1:19:49
  He'll just be like I don't know why you wasting your time with
• 1:19:52
  that shit like with Miyagi when he bought the Cressida, Josh was
• 1:19:55
  the only one that was like, telling me like you're wasting
• 1:19:56
  your time? Like, I know, dude, but he
• 1:19:58
  bought the car. Like, I gotta build it as for
• 1:20:01
  the chassis. Yeah, they're not bad.
• 1:20:02
  Yeah, they're not bad. They're Toyota chassis.
• 1:20:04
  Good. But he's just so like tunnel
• 1:20:07
  vision. Like eyes 13.
• 1:20:09
  Yeah, I like s13. See ya?
• 1:20:11
  What about is for teens? Is that she's like the better
• 1:20:13
  version because I never really Drifted once here.
• 1:20:14
  I don't like the quality of the Interior.
• 1:20:16
  I've driven both competitively Depending on how you go about it
• 1:20:22
  S14 chassis is better in every way.
• 1:20:24
  Yeah I had a feeling. Huh.
• 1:20:26
  S13 chassis is more fun in every way.
• 1:20:28
  Okay, that's kind of what the way?
• 1:20:29
  I see it. Yeah, question.
• 1:20:32
  Not too many differences. Really?
• 1:20:34
  It's the made. The main thing is where the gas
• 1:20:35
  tank is. Yes.
• 1:20:37
  All you want you? No more wait out back in the
• 1:20:40
  swing harder. Exactly more fun.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, more weight. Over the axles swing slower.
• 1:20:44
  Yeah, but control. That's a great way to do it.
• 1:20:46
  Yeah, that's 14. Tank is kind of high.
• 1:20:49
  It's like in the bag of Saddle. Yeah.
• 1:20:52
  No. I mean if you're interesting,
• 1:20:53
  yeah, if you're building a competition car I will probably
• 1:20:56
  build a 14. Yeah.
• 1:20:57
  But a fun car for me will be at 13.
• 1:21:00
  That that calm car. You got outsides.
• 1:21:02
  Got OEM headlights. Oh, the 15 is also taking that
• 1:21:05
  off. Thank God.
• 1:21:07
  I was like, we walked up to it. I'm like Frankie.
• 1:21:10
  Look at these headlights. Actually have both of them and I
• 1:21:14
  have both of the combat is oh yeah, combat idea.
• 1:21:17
  So it's funny when I was writing the 13 actually have Brakes on
• 1:21:19
  and one of my friends like hey man, I should probably take that
• 1:21:21
  off. I'm like but it looks cool.
• 1:21:23
  Yeah. And then I took it off for the
• 1:21:25
  final round and that's when I got into an accident.
• 1:21:29
  Oh, bad juju had, I took those off.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah. Juju.
• 1:21:34
  Oh my God, they have so you've gone back to this again.
• 1:21:37
  Sorry. But so you've been here for like
• 1:21:39
  four or five years you're saying oh at Apex, I think it's been
• 1:21:44
  for I want to say four years. Okay.
• 1:21:46
  But before that you were working somewhere out of sight.
• 1:21:48
  I had a No, I had another shop was like all like 1,500 square
• 1:21:52
  feet, you know, your tip that's basically what ours is.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah. 1,500 square feet. I can fit four cars with two
• 1:21:59
  lifts and like one or two. Yeah.
• 1:22:01
  Once I don't fit like, six or seven cars of.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah, not not to be weird Frankie but it was very
• 1:22:06
  similar-looking to faction because I've seen the older
• 1:22:09
  videos you saw and that's why. When we are pulling up, I was
• 1:22:13
  like, is this where it is? I'm like this is not very good
• 1:22:17
  videos. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:19
  Yeah, I know it's super similar in size.
• 1:22:21
  It's like deep. Yeah, just like long.
• 1:22:23
  One entrance or so. Yeah, I'm very fortunate to be
• 1:22:26
  here if I can't think the guys enough.
• 1:22:27
  It's like, you know, I came here because not much was going on.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, yeah. But fortunately or unfortunately
• 1:22:34
  after I came here a lot more is going on.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah, I don't know if it annoys the crap out of this guy knows
• 1:22:40
  running every fucking day. I was going to ask about the
• 1:22:42
  dino to like, do your neighbors. Get pissed about that shit.
• 1:22:45
  You know. You're coming in industrial
• 1:22:47
  area. Yeah, it's sometimes.
• 1:22:50
  There's like one guy that like manly calls and I can see why I
• 1:22:53
  like, like the loudest. Things are like straight pipe.
• 1:22:56
  Honda's. Oh my God.
• 1:22:58
  It is so loud. It's like your piercingly.
• 1:23:01
  Well, very yeah. And like I think last year Danny
• 1:23:04
  was tuning almost every day. Like wow, like minimum like five
• 1:23:08
  because now he's doing that full-time.
• 1:23:10
  Right? Right, right.
• 1:23:11
  Yeah. So I guess he's got no choice.
• 1:23:12
  We always say like we're going to build a glass box, put it
• 1:23:15
  over him, put some gas in it because it smell like that.
• 1:23:19
  Always but yeah. No, I mean it's just but it
• 1:23:23
  works, you know. Yeah, I think for me I guess it
• 1:23:26
  works in my, my eyes. I mean, you're both I mean,
• 1:23:30
  everyone back there is pretty much working off each other too.
• 1:23:32
  So it's like, oh yeah. Yeah.
• 1:23:33
  Now that he's here and he needs to tune to make a living, right?
• 1:23:37
  That's going to give you work because now, you know, right.
• 1:23:39
  Right. He just wants to sit there, you
• 1:23:40
  know, right? If you do, a lot of guys will
• 1:23:42
  message him. It's like, hey, I need this, and
• 1:23:44
  this, and this install to get it to tune in.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah. Okay, then you know, he'll
• 1:23:47
  Jason, he'll do all that stuff and then You know, we could tune
• 1:23:50
  more like vice versa, all install, all this stuff and I
• 1:23:53
  was like, hey, Daddy tune this thing.
• 1:23:54
  I think I think the vibe in the shop was like, nice.
• 1:23:58
  The fact that you said that everybody kind of works off each
• 1:24:00
  other. That's that, that's amazing to
• 1:24:03
  me. Yeah, that's it works.
• 1:24:05
  And it's like, you all could be under one name, but like imagine
• 1:24:10
  the complications that could have, right?
• 1:24:13
  Yeah. So when Danny started the whole
• 1:24:14
  tuning thing, he's like, oh hey what should I call it and then
• 1:24:17
  you die. Obviously, I'll go with color
• 1:24:18
  rival. Tuning, Like now, wait a minute.
• 1:24:20
  Like, what if he fucks up? I used to think.
• 1:24:24
  I was joking. I started flirting out all these
• 1:24:26
  things. I'm like, unrivaled to unrivaled
• 1:24:28
  tuning. I thought that was funny.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah, so it's a rival Auto Works and then unrivaled to me, and
• 1:24:34
  then, Richard, Richard is an oddball, he's weird.
• 1:24:38
  He's consistent, though. Yeah, when I was hoping when I
• 1:24:41
  was talking to him, he was he was just also really
• 1:24:45
  knowledgeable and the thing is as a genius back.
• 1:24:47
  Yeah. Because it's going to ask them.
• 1:24:48
  I'm like, Are you an engineer? Yeah.
• 1:24:51
  Like where did you get these skills that I think?
• 1:24:53
  You know if it was if you grew up in a different time or
• 1:24:56
  different actually went to school with that guy would have
• 1:24:59
  done some cool shit. Yeah, what did I ask you like?
• 1:25:01
  Yeah, I was building spaceships and I got bored.
• 1:25:19
  Made that moved outside the shop by myself.
• 1:25:22
  And then I was like, okay I mean I started working on customers
• 1:25:26
  cars, I can use a fat guy. Yeah.
• 1:25:28
  You know why don't you come in, do whatever it is that you want
• 1:25:32
  to do and at the same time like, you know, if you want, I'll get
• 1:25:35
  you work. That's a perfect setup.
• 1:25:36
  Yeah, because you never, it's like we want to hire Fab guys,
• 1:25:39
  but you just don't need them all that much.
• 1:25:41
  Right? Right.
• 1:25:41
  So I mean, in the beginning, I used to get them like the
• 1:25:45
  weirdest jobs. I'm sure he hates me for it.
• 1:25:49
  But you know what started off as like, you know, cage or a
• 1:25:52
  basketball or something like that, it became like, you know,
• 1:25:54
  we did a fucking ass are swapping a Hardbody truck that
• 1:25:57
  he absolutely hates odd. Weird things.
• 1:26:01
  And then, eventually after we came here, he kind of like, has
• 1:26:07
  like space it up and then It just kind of worked out where
• 1:26:11
  he's so busy were you know, he'd out can be on his own types.
• 1:26:15
  So is that section of the shop, his or is it like a bunch of
• 1:26:18
  them over there? I wasn't really sure.
• 1:26:19
  It's so it's not like official fun like where the for post
• 1:26:23
  lift. Yeah.
• 1:26:23
  That's where like I'm supposed to be.
• 1:26:25
  Yeah. But since it's next to the dyno,
• 1:26:27
  I kind of can't work there. Yeah.
• 1:26:29
  Yeah. So I kind of like stole the that
• 1:26:31
  on the left. So yeah.
• 1:26:32
  So and then Danny, obviously the dino.
• 1:26:34
  That's like his corner. And then where you saw the
• 1:26:37
  Lexus, only parking, the mezzanine, the blue.
• 1:26:39
  Yeah. Like Richard spot.
• 1:26:41
  Okay, yeah. So it really is like his spot
• 1:26:43
  back there. Now.
• 1:26:43
  Does he have employees? No.
• 1:26:45
  Okay. Because I saw some other guys in
• 1:26:47
  there. I was wondering where where they
• 1:26:48
  fit in. Well I think well I'm misaka.
• 1:26:53
  Misaka misaka, misaka came in there and was looking for an Sr
• 1:26:58
  oil cap and I thought it was funny because he just pulled
• 1:27:00
  another one out and he's like, yeah, we're just comparing the
• 1:27:03
  weights the Wade's. I was like, what?
• 1:27:07
  You're like sure would have one because he's originally as
• 1:27:09
  chassis. Yeah.
• 1:27:10
  Yeah. Yeahs like enough parsable.
• 1:27:12
  Like for SRS, that's what he said.
• 1:27:14
  He said, I got enough Parts. Broken down to bill for us, ours
• 1:27:17
  and I'm going to put him away. Yeah, I was like, that's what
• 1:27:19
  you should be doing. I was like wow, I told him dude.
• 1:27:21
  Let's just slowly build it because I need more Sr.'s.
• 1:27:25
  I need more Sr cranks dude. Yeah but it's like get those new
• 1:27:29
  style. I actually just got one the
• 1:27:30
  other day. Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah. What the fuck?
• 1:27:32
  Yeah, thank god dude. I'm sounds good with that shit,
• 1:27:35
  man. I wanted to ask if you had Any
• 1:27:39
  advice for like a lot of a lot of our listeners are like new
• 1:27:42
  Drifters. Yeah.
• 1:27:44
  If you had any advice for them to just have if you could tell
• 1:27:49
  yourself something, when you were younger, what would you
• 1:27:52
  tell them? Don't raise the Boost.
• 1:27:58
  The nation's 14 pounds is crazy Duty as bad or whatever.
• 1:28:03
  The hell yeah, the game I do, I don't know, I just go out and do
• 1:28:09
  it. I know I like that's always what
• 1:28:10
  everyone says, no. I mean, yeah, I don't want to
• 1:28:12
  sound like that guy but honestly, there's nothing more
• 1:28:14
  to it than just going out and doing it.
• 1:28:16
  Yeah, you know, or actually nowadays like, you know, I see
• 1:28:19
  guys I come from like Sim drifting.
• 1:28:21
  Yeah, he jumping according to get it in like A day you better
• 1:28:24
  talk. We always bring that up too
• 1:28:26
  because I say, craziest thing I have so I that's I'm one of
• 1:28:31
  those people. I would play on a set of course
• 1:28:33
  on my bootleg wooden little setup and then when I got my
• 1:28:37
  first s13, I would show you play that before you got in a
• 1:28:41
  drifting. I did it at the same time.
• 1:28:42
  Okay? I would, I bought the s13
• 1:28:45
  started playing that and I would play around with the with the
• 1:28:47
  wheel. See, it's raining out because
• 1:28:49
  the car I had, that was a dual cam Ka.
• 1:28:51
  Ya see it was raining out and then Immediately go into the
• 1:28:55
  car, right? Right.
• 1:28:56
  And then go to my spot and fuck around, okay?
• 1:28:58
  But I feel like it develops bad habits, driving wise, if you're
• 1:29:03
  not really thinking about what the car is doing and you're
• 1:29:06
  completely relating it to the game.
• 1:29:08
  I mean, it's the reason why I bring the whole stem thing up.
• 1:29:11
  It's like, you know, it's not, I mean, so I think I personally
• 1:29:14
  think the cheapest way to get it to Drifting today.
• 1:29:16
  Would be like a 350Z. I agree like that.
• 1:29:19
  Yep, that is a car. But even now these are like,
• 1:29:22
  what? Like, eight ten Grand.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah. So are they went by that?
• 1:29:26
  They went after people found out like wait a minute, this is a
• 1:29:29
  pretty good car out the box or like a G35 is the same thing.
• 1:29:32
  That's where I would go now because those are still cheat,
• 1:29:35
  right, right. I mean, if you can't go out and
• 1:29:38
  if you have a rear wheel drive car just go out and try it.
• 1:29:41
  Yeah. Work with what you got?
• 1:29:42
  Yeah. How about BMWs are they
• 1:29:44
  expensive? The one I slide I think I paid
• 1:29:47
  like 1,500 bucks. Yeah.
• 1:29:48
  So I think that's the other call 46 E36 E46 is really cheap.
• 1:29:53
  Yeah, because I feel like it's it became more, there's more
• 1:29:57
  weight in it. It's like a lot more cushy.
• 1:30:00
  Yeah, E46 E36, I guess they're getting more than that rare, but
• 1:30:05
  harder to come by. 20:46 is you can find?
• 1:30:07
  I mean, there's a guy that here just parse out E46 is all day.
• 1:30:12
  And when I was started building, the 36 was kind of talking to me
• 1:30:15
  like, oh, which one Build and I always preference, blah, blah
• 1:30:18
  blah. He's like.
• 1:30:18
  If you want to build an E46 I'll just give you one because he
• 1:30:21
  just parse the body, doesn't need the the roller.
• 1:30:23
  Yeah, you know and I don't need, I just need a dash and a body
• 1:30:27
  and doors. Yeah, you know, changing Fender
• 1:30:29
  suspension. Anyways, an engine like in rear
• 1:30:33
  end so he's like dude if that's all you need I'll just give you
• 1:30:35
  one. So E46 is are cheap.
• 1:30:38
  Yeah, but you know, it's BMW. I know.
• 1:30:42
  Yeah, I opinion. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:30:45
  Yeah. View.
• 1:30:46
  Now, have you drifted a z? Like I know you did VQ + S 13.
• 1:30:50
  Oh did I've had like 50? Okay.
• 1:30:51
  Yeah. So you have Ranger thing on the
• 1:30:54
  free arm. So yeah.
• 1:30:55
  Greatest range of cars. Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Yeah yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:59
  I'm hoping one day we can build one of those.
• 1:31:01
  We have like a long list right now because the customer like
• 1:31:03
  you were saying just give you a quick like a customer just gave
• 1:31:05
  me a zenki as 14 so I was like all right well I'll build that I
• 1:31:08
  guess we got to do that first. Yeah so wait wait wait wait wait
• 1:31:11
  it's pretty Rusty. Yeah of course it's Rusty but
• 1:31:14
  quite like There was a time where we just called it bumper
• 1:31:18
  cars that beige car outside, so a customer of mine dropped off a
• 1:31:24
  Kate shell, okay? He's like, I don't want this,
• 1:31:26
  I'm like, dude, I don't want it either.
• 1:31:28
  He's like, dude, you just do something with it, okay?
• 1:31:32
  But then the same weekend, our other body was pulling out his
• 1:31:35
  entire single cab drive train. I was like, how much do you want
• 1:31:38
  for the? Yeah, and he's like a couple
• 1:31:40
  hundred bucks. That's what's up.
• 1:31:42
  So I put that into this fucking shell.
• 1:31:46
  Not a single gauge on the car, just ECU Power Fuel and a fan,
• 1:31:51
  and then you call it bumper cars, we call the bumper car.
• 1:31:53
  So, that was my first bumper car and then my other buddy found
• 1:31:56
  like some cousins neighbor, had a dual cam hat.
• 1:31:58
  Yeah that became the second bumper car.
• 1:32:01
  I'd probably call it I probably called a missile.
• 1:32:03
  Yeah well was that yeah. Wasn't that was you know
• 1:32:06
  everybody used to call it. Yeah but we just literally just
• 1:32:08
  started playing bumper cars. So three of us had it.
• 1:32:12
  There were also cases mine was a single cab.
• 1:32:14
  There was a dual cam It was literally like we at one point,
• 1:32:18
  I think we're going to try to go down the street at Grange like
• 1:32:20
  side-by-side as who makes it first when it was skinny to
• 1:32:23
  probably. Yeah, dude.
• 1:32:24
  Let's see what makes it first then?
• 1:32:26
  Just kind of called. Yeah I know.
• 1:32:27
  Don't you do that English down dude?
• 1:32:29
  Yeah we just take off the line and really.
• 1:32:31
  All right, whoever makes it but that shit gets real dangerous
• 1:32:33
  real quick and Grange dude, it is God, I drove it once.
• 1:32:39
  Like oh yeah, I heard you brought your car for that.
• 1:32:41
  Super the. Yeah, I mean, my trans blew up
• 1:32:43
  in like ten laps or something like, but and I I was just so we
• 1:32:46
  drove here too, so it's Drew. Yeah, we're over here.
• 1:32:49
  You don't fix it. I wanted to drive here.
• 1:32:51
  Everyone. I wanted to, I always want to
• 1:32:53
  drive across the country. Surprised.
• 1:32:54
  I would do it in a different car but oh no, I didn't drive the
• 1:32:57
  car. Oh, okay trailers.
• 1:32:59
  Okay. That's it was about to be like
• 1:33:02
  I'm not, you know, I'm not that crazy because he would do that
• 1:33:08
  shit. Yeah, I'm not like think that's
• 1:33:12
  awesome man. You know, I used to think it was
• 1:33:14
  awesome but Can't do it now. Got older?
• 1:33:17
  Yeah dude. No not do it now.
• 1:33:19
  Like maybe drive to like final bout.
• 1:33:22
  Maybe yeah maybe I did. That's closer.
• 1:33:25
  Yeah, I wouldn't dare drive that far.
• 1:33:27
  Yeah. But it's like at the same time
• 1:33:29
  it's like if this thing breaks, I know I can fix it.
• 1:33:33
  That's true. You do you mean so there's
• 1:33:34
  always that part of it too. It's like if my truck brakes I
• 1:33:38
  think I'll be able to fix it. Right.
• 1:33:40
  But anyway, yeah, so I drove that track and dude, I'm not
• 1:33:43
  gonna lie that track was the that It's just that one term
• 1:33:47
  that one turn is like the most insane turn.
• 1:33:50
  It's so when they first opened that two drifters like I
• 1:33:52
  actually I hate it that track could be other than the entry
• 1:33:56
  the rest of us. Born.
• 1:33:57
  It's pretty boring. So that's why we got the bumper
• 1:33:59
  cars. Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  That would make sense. Yeah, so they were Grange cars.
• 1:34:02
  Yeah, we wouldn't have. We didn't, I didn't drive like,
• 1:34:05
  oh, actually, I took the balcony.
• 1:34:07
  Once what's now, what's balcony? That's that is had one where
• 1:34:10
  there's that Hut in the middle of it.
• 1:34:12
  Oh, is that where they used to do like the Mahon shout?
• 1:34:14
  No, that's that's something else.
• 1:34:16
  I'm balcony. Balcony is just a big figure
• 1:34:19
  eight but half of the eighth is paved.
• 1:34:21
  Okay. Like, I guess you could look at
• 1:34:22
  it that. Yeah.
• 1:34:24
  So it's damn. You guys got a decent amount of
• 1:34:27
  tracks? Like, how many tracks do you
• 1:34:28
  have for drifting in your surrounding?
• 1:34:31
  It would just be will also they don't have events at Willow
• 1:34:34
  Springs like anymore. Now you couldn't but you have
• 1:34:38
  everybody just goes to Grange because it's cheap.
• 1:34:40
  Yeah yeah. So like quite literally you can
• 1:34:43
  go to you can go drift every weekend.
• 1:34:45
  And like somebody's hosting some drift event at Grange.
• 1:34:49
  That's fucking. So they have like multiple
• 1:34:50
  organizers at Grange, right. Right.
• 1:34:52
  Like I would rent the track and I think it was like a year ago
• 1:34:56
  or whatever I checked was like, 1,000 bucks.
• 1:34:58
  Yeah. Or a Saturday or Sunday like a
• 1:35:00
  weekend and then I would charge. I don't know, 20 people so you
• 1:35:04
  can damn dude that's kind of why I lied about current situation.
• 1:35:08
  Like, what is your waiver baby fucking way?
• 1:35:11
  Get the waivers. It's nothing has happened yet to
• 1:35:15
  get to that. Points which I think is good
• 1:35:19
  because you can still do dumb shit.
• 1:35:20
  Yeah, it's not that expensive but it's some motherfuckers
• 1:35:23
  gonna fuck, you know, I mean, didn't we already almost get
• 1:35:25
  close with whole fire situation or was that just the car?
• 1:35:29
  Just died. The card that I think it was
• 1:35:31
  that Driftwood Corvette, right? Yeah, something like that.
• 1:35:34
  Now, event organizers need to bring their own fire
• 1:35:36
  extinguisher, okay, and just have it at like every other
• 1:35:39
  corner or something. Yeah, that doesn't even seem
• 1:35:42
  that, bro, how landish we would be throwing it.
• 1:35:45
  That's there every week. I know like yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:48
  And that's like the only place where you can do that.
• 1:35:50
  I you do you go to Willow Springs.
• 1:35:51
  So you can't more legit. That's a bit more of a facility,
• 1:35:55
  right? And I haven't gone to Grange and
• 1:35:58
  yeah we're going to go there in a couple of I like tracks where
• 1:36:00
  it's like what would you call that?
• 1:36:03
  Like I would call it a go kart track.
• 1:36:05
  It is a go-kart. Yeah, I like tracks where you
• 1:36:07
  have to speed up to slow down, that's the first time that's
• 1:36:11
  just the first. And then the rest of it is just
• 1:36:13
  a small, it's a small tight track.
• 1:36:15
  If you would like yeah I think you're going to have fun.
• 1:36:18
  Yeah. See if we can get on the track.
• 1:36:20
  They're like renting Z's or something.
• 1:36:21
  We heard. Yeah.
• 1:36:22
  Yeah. Things own.
• 1:36:23
  Some drift Zone? Yeah trips.
• 1:36:25
  Yeah. They have to Caesar.
• 1:36:27
  I think you've charges like Pearl.
• 1:36:28
  A yeah. Like he said $25 a lot of I was
• 1:36:30
  like At first I was like and then I was like, dude it's going
• 1:36:33
  to take me one lap to get get that shit down.
• 1:36:35
  I was like I'll do for you know, I mean like whatever and if you
• 1:36:38
  look at it in terms of like if you have to rent a car, tow it
• 1:36:41
  out there, that's what I looked at it.
• 1:36:43
  Yes, insane. So 25 bucks a lab in reality.
• 1:36:45
  No tire liability. No, gasps, liability of damage.
• 1:36:48
  Liability, is it really no damage?
• 1:36:50
  Yes, it says it on the website. That's the part.
• 1:36:52
  That weird me out. I'm like, so I can just take
• 1:36:54
  this thing and it'll work because you remember, like, when
• 1:36:56
  they had the naoki, I mean, with to an extent, they don't want
• 1:36:59
  you to fucking whip this thing into the wall and that's the
• 1:37:02
  thing. It's like, you know, like some
• 1:37:03
  asshole. Shouldn't look at their goal was
• 1:37:05
  to shoot in the wall. Yeah.
• 1:37:06
  You know you know because you're going to ruin.
• 1:37:08
  I focused on hope I hope no one, no, but that's the thing is, of
• 1:37:12
  course. It's all about what they do
• 1:37:17
  afterwards. Like it, how they handle the
• 1:37:19
  situation if they're like going to be a d-bag about it.
• 1:37:22
  Like oh, it's an old damage liability.
• 1:37:25
  That's like there's a proper way to handle everything and I feel
• 1:37:28
  like do we need helmets. What helmet does he have?
• 1:37:32
  Maybe. I don't know.
• 1:37:33
  I don't know. One of those.
• 1:37:37
  The shit that the shit that motorcycle Eddie.
• 1:37:40
  Where's I think or is that one of one of, one of the realize
• 1:37:43
  guys where is a shock? Some like weird bucket thing and
• 1:37:46
  I'm like yeah Chuck has fucking thing and I think Gary has like
• 1:37:50
  that UFO thing. Yeah, I'm over here like I'm
• 1:37:52
  like, I'm like how the fuck you used to be able to do that
• 1:37:55
  English town when I started this?
• 1:37:56
  Somebody fucked it up, right? Yeah.
• 1:37:58
  Oh yeah. The state of New Jersey.
• 1:37:59
  Jersey, unfortunately, it's pretty strict.
• 1:38:01
  Oh, they're the ones that fuck everything up.
• 1:38:03
  You guys are so I heard, I heard he's pretty cool with with the
• 1:38:13
  drifting thing. Yeah, and you just, you know,
• 1:38:15
  he's a normalized duties like a men.
• 1:38:17
  Just don't fuck shit up. Like come on.
• 1:38:19
  Just just be reasonable here. Yeah, like yeah and they
• 1:38:23
  extended the width of the track I think.
• 1:38:26
  Okay. So I think you could do dumb
• 1:38:29
  shit. In the first turn now.
• 1:38:30
  Oh, God. Yeah.
• 1:38:31
  You could just do you like it now?
• 1:38:37
  Or do you like it the way it was before I knew you were gonna say
• 1:38:39
  that because it was definitely way sketchier.
• 1:38:42
  Yeah, it kind of took the fun out of it so they like widen the
• 1:38:46
  parser people kept going off because yes drawing everything.
• 1:38:49
  I destroyed my car. And there's certain sections
• 1:38:52
  were like Like I was like a shorter stray, so you kind of
• 1:38:55
  have to like do this weird baby angle skittish.
• 1:38:58
  Yeah, they made a little bit wider so you could drive it.
• 1:39:00
  Easier. Did I wish you could see I know?
• 1:39:02
  Well, that's ridiculous. That's that little, that little
• 1:39:05
  like, like, on a set. Oh, like there's this the
• 1:39:10
  sections, you're like, straightening it.
• 1:39:11
  Oh, you played it on the side. Yeah, you feed the wheel out
• 1:39:14
  just a little bit and then you reinitiate that's like my
• 1:39:16
  favorite thing to do every, but like the street was so I just
• 1:39:19
  remember being so skinny and I'm just driving.
• 1:39:22
  And I'm like, how the fuck? I'm gonna flick right now.
• 1:39:24
  I'm gonna fucking go off the, you'd have to, like, flick if
• 1:39:26
  you like, oh God, right there, like, right at the edge and then
• 1:39:29
  if you drop a tire it's fucking over because there's like a
• 1:39:32
  fucking eight-foot drop into the dirt and it's sand.
• 1:39:36
  So like it wasn't that bad dude, I think I have a picture of me
• 1:39:39
  like just dragging one tire in the dirt, it was I guess it's
• 1:39:42
  because my car was low. I don't know what it was.
• 1:39:44
  My car fucking eyes. Okay, no Style guy over here
• 1:39:47
  Tire, like it would drop, and I'm used to like, if I drop I
• 1:39:51
  can keep going, but this time it would drop And I'd be like, it'd
• 1:39:53
  be like no. Yeah and I would just fucking
• 1:39:55
  like Spin and just I'm like dude fuck this.
• 1:39:58
  And then the trans blue and I was like, all right.
• 1:39:59
  Cool. And of course it's like you know
• 1:40:02
  I just redid the whole car and rest shit.
• 1:40:04
  I'm sure you did because you're bringing it all the way.
• 1:40:06
  Yeah. Or they'll give you.
• 1:40:07
  I was there. I was I was fanboying.
• 1:40:09
  I was wondering if you were there.
• 1:40:10
  I was there. I think that's the first time I
• 1:40:12
  saw like the the the old Curly guy shot Dynasty guys.
• 1:40:16
  Oh you love. I love this.
• 1:40:17
  I love those cars to. Yeah, I like them so much.
• 1:40:21
  Yeah, fan blowing over like naoki.
• 1:40:22
  I'm just Dude, those motherfuckers going in that
• 1:40:25
  first turn, man. Yeah.
• 1:40:26
  Like the, the, when all three of them started only at the end of
• 1:40:29
  the day. Yeah.
• 1:40:31
  And did their on, like, a different level.
• 1:40:32
  I can't even fucking. I know, even imagine driving.
• 1:40:35
  Like it was like when I went to Chicago for final bout one or
• 1:40:39
  two? I got to see this whole like
• 1:40:42
  seen. That's like all the cars are
• 1:40:43
  like so dope. They're super clean all riled
• 1:40:46
  up. Yeah like exactly what I want
• 1:40:49
  and I always liked wanted to make my car look like and then
• 1:40:51
  you get to the tracking like The drawings.
• 1:40:54
  Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't good.
• 1:40:56
  Find out one. Everyone knows.
• 1:40:57
  Okay. It wasn't that good.
• 1:40:58
  Jesus, Frankie! And then we could go to like an
• 1:41:01
  event like this. And we see that it's like a way
• 1:41:04
  different. It is.
• 1:41:05
  It is. It's like and I don't know I
• 1:41:07
  mean I know which one I like more.
• 1:41:08
  I like the bad driving nice cars but it's like cool to see two
• 1:41:12
  different styles. It is a very different.
• 1:41:14
  Yeah, it is very, very Josh. I think said it, once not event
• 1:41:18
  changed Josh's life, he will. Josh said it when he went to
• 1:41:22
  Japan, He was like just when you think you're good, he went there
• 1:41:27
  and drove with the rest of them and like I'm assuming he just
• 1:41:31
  got some sort of epiphany and started driving like, hell,
• 1:41:34
  because he can drive the wheels off of a card.
• 1:41:36
  He went to Mahon. And yeah.
• 1:41:39
  So you got that whole experience and I want to do that.
• 1:41:42
  Yeah. Have you been to Japan?
• 1:41:43
  Yeah, I drove a Basu or a Bissell?
• 1:41:47
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:41:49
  No. Big deal.
• 1:41:52
  I like that. Weird.
• 1:41:54
  Buddy of mine took his R32 to track on the same day I was
• 1:41:58
  going to go. Okay.
• 1:41:59
  And then he had so was an R32 and a Stasia stygia, how to
• 1:42:04
  reduce we say stage you but I don't actually know.
• 1:42:06
  Yeah, we have both of those cars and I got to drive there for two
• 1:42:09
  days. Drifting Stasia.
• 1:42:13
  Yeah, of course. Yes.
• 1:42:15
  I mean, so we went to the school course.
• 1:42:17
  I was like, okay, you know, get used to right-hand-drive.
• 1:42:19
  Yeah, fucking like slamming, the door panel.
• 1:42:21
  Yeah. Did you see this right?
• 1:42:23
  My uncoordinated ass maybe Canary.
• 1:42:26
  Right after that, we go to toget course.
• 1:42:28
  I'm just like, oh, okay, toget course, that's a sick horse.
• 1:42:31
  All right? Yes, I go.
• 1:42:32
  Okay, I'm going there. I'm like sitting shotgun, I'm
• 1:42:34
  not driving yet and I'm sitting there, I'm just like, there's no
• 1:42:36
  way I'm gonna be able to do this.
• 1:42:37
  Yeah, my car to left hand. Yeah, be able to do it but I do
• 1:42:43
  try it. Yeah, the car people people
• 1:42:46
  literally go out there. Same situation as you and
• 1:42:48
  they're just like, okay, I guess I'm doing this.
• 1:42:50
  Yeah, knows I tried it. It's like I didn't link
• 1:42:52
  everything. Obviously I'm not that bad ass.
• 1:42:54
  We're like, all right babe you did this later.
• 1:42:56
  Yeah, we went to North Course. That course is fund.
• 1:42:59
  Of course disease. Is that the one with the crest?
• 1:43:01
  Yeah you come over the Wild and then you try to do the whole
• 1:43:03
  backwards into the left. Yeah.
• 1:43:05
  And so I was like did I have to try you know just driving over
• 1:43:09
  the Minami jump? Yeah so we're like oh we'll go
• 1:43:12
  later, we'll go later and then but like doing that well you're
• 1:43:15
  not comfortable at right hand drawn.
• 1:43:16
  I wasn't gonna jump, dude. That's nice dude.
• 1:43:18
  So sketchy, no. But then like so Andy Gray came
• 1:43:22
  out It's his missile car because there are some video guy
• 1:43:25
  videogame deliver developers like scanning the track or
• 1:43:28
  whatever. So they had like drones, like
• 1:43:29
  all this cuz I'm Drone footage of you guys driving.
• 1:43:31
  So the guy, my buddy, Robbie is good friends with Andy.
• 1:43:35
  So all of us are driving. So I'm in the 32 buddies in the
• 1:43:40
  wagon and he's in his missile car and we're driving.
• 1:43:43
  So it's fun. Yeah, it was constantly driving.
• 1:43:45
  So, like by the time I realized, I like, oh shit, we didn't go to
• 1:43:49
  the Minami yet, so we go over there but you know, it's like
• 1:43:51
  close to five, don't like no, no.
• 1:43:54
  Damn it so I got to like drive around.
• 1:43:55
  Yeah that's cool but now they fucking know the Trucks gone.
• 1:43:59
  Dude the regret I could imagine that regret is definitely bad.
• 1:44:04
  So like actually at the end of March I'm going back and I just
• 1:44:09
  kind of bought a car there. Okay.
• 1:44:11
  So the idea was to drive me Hans.
• 1:44:13
  I was going to look for a car around that area, but I don't
• 1:44:16
  know anybody in that area. So I hit a Robbie again.
• 1:44:20
  I was like, amen, I would do this.
• 1:44:23
  Find me a car. Yeah.
• 1:44:24
  I'm like I'm pretty sure Robbie Nishida.
• 1:44:26
  Yeah. So this is how my friend Justin
• 1:44:27
  went out. There he is.
• 1:44:28
  He's friends at Robby. So okay.
• 1:44:30
  Justin Justin Sean, Justin Justin voicemail.
• 1:44:34
  Yeah. So yeah he went out there and
• 1:44:37
  then I think Shawn was out there problem.
• 1:44:38
  Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
• 1:44:39
  Yeah. I didn't get to go
• 1:44:40
  unfortunately. But someone had to run the shop.
• 1:44:42
  Yeah, no I don't remember why, okay.
• 1:44:45
  Okay, yeah. That's funny though.
• 1:44:47
  So no sounds like okay so I want a car like it could be a jzx,
• 1:44:50
  you know, obviously could be a nice chassis.
• 1:44:51
  Like it's something that you know I like I'm going to drive
• 1:44:55
  there and possibly ship back. Yeah.
• 1:44:56
  Yeah. And like the first thing he says
• 1:44:58
  like there's this 180 here I'm like it doesn't need a VNS 13.
• 1:45:01
  You know, it could be something else but if you know yeah it's
• 1:45:05
  not rusted, it's running. Something that would be more fun
• 1:45:08
  because most I feel like most of course there now RJ Z axes.
• 1:45:10
  Right? That's I kind of want to, you
• 1:45:12
  want to just do that? Wanted to do the J.
• 1:45:14
  Yeah, but no, no, I'm gonna go to Japan and I've mastered.
• 1:45:20
  I mean that's what I would want pain.
• 1:45:22
  Yeah. I mean, I'm Not against it.
• 1:45:23
  It's just now. I'm so another buddy win, and
• 1:45:26
  he's more like an import-export guy.
• 1:45:27
  So I told him so he's staying out there for like, three
• 1:45:29
  months. I told him, hey, like, look for
• 1:45:31
  something clean that I might want to bring back.
• 1:45:34
  So the idea is I'm going to buy it.
• 1:45:35
  Drive it, bring it back so I don't get my money back.
• 1:45:37
  Yeah, hopefully it'll cover the trip.
• 1:45:39
  So they're still letting you buy cars at a Basu and keep them
• 1:45:42
  there and everything all that that, I don't know.
• 1:45:45
  Okay. I feel like that might have been
• 1:45:46
  abused by. I mean, how could it not?
• 1:45:49
  Wait, too many people. I mean, I'm sure if you have the
• 1:45:51
  money. Yeah.
• 1:45:52
  I mean, You have the money you can do anything.
• 1:45:55
  So this time around idea, is because I think Robbie's like
• 1:45:59
  kind of like in Tokyo, but I don't know exactly where it
• 1:46:01
  because it's so big. Yeah.
• 1:46:03
  So I think I'm going to try to go to either Nico circuit, or
• 1:46:06
  that would be dope. Well, borrow, I think is the
• 1:46:09
  other one but I need to figure out how that works.
• 1:46:12
  Like, I don't know if it's like episode where I can just go pay
• 1:46:15
  to drive. Yeah.
• 1:46:16
  Or do I need to have like an event organizer throwing an
• 1:46:18
  event that same weekend? I have a feeling it's going to
• 1:46:21
  be a more on the sketchy side. Yeah.
• 1:46:23
  Oh yeah, you got money. All right.
• 1:46:24
  Come on in. Well, so I asked Robbie I'm like
• 1:46:26
  hey can you find out if there's any event?
• 1:46:28
  Yeah, I mean I did. I owe that guy a lot did.
• 1:46:32
  He seems like an awesome dude. It's fucking cool.
• 1:46:34
  He's like, he's like the most normal dude, really big brother
• 1:46:37
  Vibes? Yeah, I would go to him for
• 1:46:39
  advice about my life. Like, what about can you shop?
• 1:46:45
  Three is racing. I've never been you.
• 1:46:47
  Never been there, and I tried to hit them up because Kangoo,
• 1:46:49
  she's like, one of those Idols were like, that's the name.
• 1:46:53
  And I knew he tells the story about oh, when I met him, dude,
• 1:46:58
  did you Fanboy a little bit here?
• 1:47:00
  This a little bit as an understatement.
• 1:47:02
  It was pretty bad. Okay.
• 1:47:04
  We're at Formula Drift unfortunate at Englishtown,
• 1:47:07
  okay, and unfortunately can got knocked out earlier on due to
• 1:47:10
  Mechanical issue, okay? Okay, so I'm taking a piss, the
• 1:47:14
  bathrooms. There are so fucking Grody,
• 1:47:16
  sometimes. They're not more.
• 1:47:17
  Is the floor was great. Was the end of the day, bats.
• 1:47:20
  All right. All right.
• 1:47:21
  Friends a little bad. Okay.
• 1:47:22
  So Probably hot as fuck. I'm taking I walk up to the
• 1:47:25
  urinal and taking a piss, you know, the urinal law.
• 1:47:27
  You don't piss next to a guy if there's other urinals available.
• 1:47:30
  So I'm one away and Chris are Chris.
• 1:47:34
  And on my other friend Darryl was like, Hey look over there.
• 1:47:39
  Look look, look and I'm like, I'm like what the fuck like I'm
• 1:47:42
  pissing and then like, I look over to my right?
• 1:47:44
  And there's another dude, pissing and there are they're
• 1:47:46
  all like freaking out and then they leave and I go to wash my
• 1:47:50
  hands and I look over to my left.
• 1:47:53
  It's Ken cushy right there and I'm washing my hands.
• 1:47:56
  And I'm like, what do I say right now without seeming?
• 1:48:00
  Like I'm I'm really like kitty. Yeah, to be here in the bath and
• 1:48:05
  I'm watching my hands through. So then I go, I go most awkward
• 1:48:09
  fucking way possible. I'm like, hey, are you are, you
• 1:48:14
  can do she really say that? Yeah, this is how it went and
• 1:48:17
  then and then he looks over and saw you in a race in the most
• 1:48:21
  polite, but no, dude, he's in like, He has a t-shirt on it's
• 1:48:24
  Gucci. At least you didn't say, are you
• 1:48:25
  die? No, my God.
• 1:48:27
  And and he goes, he goes. Yeah.
• 1:48:30
  And I'm like, yeah man, like I've been watching your stuff
• 1:48:33
  for so long, it's so crazy. I meet you, blah, blah, blah
• 1:48:35
  blah, and we're in the bathroom. That's just me and him and he
• 1:48:38
  goes. Yeah, I mean I'd shake your hand
• 1:48:40
  but I just touched my dick so I'm like, I'm like yeah, no
• 1:48:44
  problem, no problem. Fold.
• 1:48:53
  Because we both walked outside and lo and behold there's Chris
• 1:48:56
  and Darryl sitting in front of the bathroom like, yo and I'm
• 1:49:00
  like, I'm like yeah. Do you mind if we get some
• 1:49:03
  pictures? Like I have a picture of him and
• 1:49:04
  Darryl. And this dude has the biggest
• 1:49:07
  fucking smile. It's literally like, huh?
• 1:49:10
  Oh yeah. And I took a picture and he's
• 1:49:11
  like, yeah, we gotta take a picture.
• 1:49:13
  So people are no. We took a piss together that's
• 1:49:15
  and I was like, yeah. Then you came back to the booth
• 1:49:17
  and I was I was I came back and told Frankie and I was like,
• 1:49:20
  dude, what the fuck? And like, It was funny just
• 1:49:23
  because like it was the end of the day you know?
• 1:49:25
  Like yeah and he took the time to take a photo and I really
• 1:49:29
  appreciated that like I actually hit him up on Instagram was like
• 1:49:32
  Hey we're from faction Motorsports would go.
• 1:49:34
  If I was wondering if I could drop by and yeah say hi or
• 1:49:36
  whatever and they never got back to Formula.
• 1:49:38
  Drift is like it's such a cool Vibe still you know?
• 1:49:41
  I mean like but I do feel like it's a Dying Breed.
• 1:49:44
  I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 1:49:46
  I think I don't think people like us are ever going to be.
• 1:49:49
  I would like, but I want to see like some sort of power Me too.
• 1:49:53
  I do want to see something like that.
• 1:49:55
  Like a sub 500. He's a know.
• 1:49:57
  You want to see you, you know, know for, for this, for what we
• 1:50:00
  do to exist, ft needs to be needs to.
• 1:50:02
  Yeah, there has to be like the F1 of their has that.
• 1:50:05
  Yes, there has to be that upper, that's true.
• 1:50:23
  The only thing that you can do is like, if you want something,
• 1:50:27
  if you want something else that's like limited by tire
• 1:50:30
  size, have to go out and make it yourself out to make yourself.
• 1:50:33
  Like that's basically and I personally think there are a lot
• 1:50:36
  of people that would be interested in that.
• 1:50:38
  It's just it's just every time they try some shit like that,
• 1:50:41
  they fuck it up like they're like they try to like you know,
• 1:50:44
  limit the turbo or something. I'm like dude how you gonna do
• 1:50:47
  that to do a street class? And I actually did aspect not
• 1:50:51
  aspect like a limited class. Um, the idea was three and a
• 1:50:55
  half liters or below which kept a V8.
• 1:50:57
  Yeah. 235 tire and that pretty much brought all the SR.
• 1:51:02
  That's yeah, that's five tires. Yeah, that's good life Tire
• 1:51:06
  because, you know, you can get a lot of speed out of the 265,
• 1:51:10
  even though like a 300 word. Oh yeah.
• 1:51:12
  So like it kind of worked, it brought all the it brought all
• 1:51:15
  like the old guys that have like these cars and like their
• 1:51:18
  garages and stuff. Yeah, that the end of the day
• 1:51:20
  like it was a very exciting. No, for spectators.
• 1:51:22
  Right. So it kind of just yeah.
• 1:51:24
  It's more for the drivers then yeah for sure and you know if
• 1:51:27
  they but you can't like you can't force like a car to look
• 1:51:31
  stylish. You know I mean like it's all
• 1:51:32
  about it would that's all ideally it would be they would
• 1:51:35
  all be stylish because then you know the spectators can walk
• 1:51:39
  through the pit and then you get that like hot important nights
• 1:51:41
  Vibe but it's impossible. No I think a cop like my conch
• 1:51:47
  cars like functionality, obvious is going to win over it another
• 1:51:51
  style especially if it's a cop car.
• 1:51:53
  Right? So it's like when you do the
• 1:51:54
  competition stuff is just like your car slowly get hired
• 1:51:57
  because you think, well, yeah, pension more than, you know.
• 1:51:59
  Yeah, thanks. But like so, Jeff.
• 1:52:01
  Jones is starting that or he did it last year.
• 1:52:03
  How pit autofest? Okay, and basically it's like
• 1:52:07
  you can't limit horsepower. Like, how are you going to
• 1:52:09
  measure? Yeah, unless you have a dino,
• 1:52:11
  they're yours. Let me see the dino achieve
• 1:52:15
  switch on a different map. Oh, true.
• 1:52:17
  Yeah, I mean I you can't hide that.
• 1:52:19
  Yeah, limit horsepower. So you have to limit Tire.
• 1:52:21
  Yeah. So he has a Series worse.
• 1:52:23
  A 265 tire. 300 Trader. That's still big as fuck.
• 1:52:26
  It is. It is.
• 1:52:27
  But 300, treadwear 265, like it's not that fast like FD cars.
• 1:52:31
  Fly do. Yeah, it's a different level
• 1:52:34
  God. No, yeah, things are like 285.
• 1:52:36
  So he's starting this Series this year.
• 1:52:39
  Last year. Last year, I'm, he's doing it
• 1:52:41
  this year. Again, first round doesn't like
• 1:52:43
  I think two or three weeks or so, what do they call this one?
• 1:52:45
  Hot pit auto pocket, okay. So like the main focus for him
• 1:52:49
  is to the drifting, but he does need to do like a burnout
• 1:52:51
  contest and like, Bring people that's fine.
• 1:52:55
  I got no problem with that. I mean, I always like he brought
• 1:52:58
  up Hot Import Nights before. That was one of the first times
• 1:53:02
  I ever saw drifting on the road course, in English time was the
• 1:53:06
  Hot Import lights. There's something else going on
• 1:53:09
  that day, too. But, dude, there was a concert
• 1:53:12
  going on. There is models everywhere like
• 1:53:15
  that. That's what, that's, what Need
• 1:53:16
  for Speed pro street was basically, we're trying to bring
• 1:53:19
  that back. Yeah, that's amazing models and
• 1:53:21
  everything, it was fun in. He's gonna be, nobody's gonna
• 1:53:24
  say, yeah, but now but now but now.
• 1:53:32
  But now the thing is, you can't just cater to the male driver.
• 1:53:37
  There are female drivers out there that that's a woman, so
• 1:53:39
  we'll bring some mail. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:53:41
  Get Frankie on a pole out there. Yeah.
• 1:53:44
  All right. Do you have any doubt any more
• 1:53:46
  notes? Anything you want to end on
• 1:53:48
  here? I mean, I feel like we could
• 1:53:50
  keep this conversation. Go forever.
• 1:53:51
  I know. Should I should probably end it
• 1:53:53
  II kept you here an hour longer than I told you.
• 1:53:56
  I was so I know, dude, I didn't realize how long it's Jason.
• 1:54:00
  I just need to tell you. I told him that before I was
• 1:54:03
  like I just I just need to say keep I'm going to keep saying
• 1:54:09
  this. Thank you man because this has
• 1:54:11
  been an unreal experiment, experience for me.
• 1:54:14
  No, thank you guys for coming at the end of the day.
• 1:54:16
  I'm just one guy. Yeah, yeah, but dude, you just I
• 1:54:20
  have so much. Yeah, knowledge and expand and
• 1:54:23
  experiences and memories that you were able to share.
• 1:54:25
  And that's something that I'm very, very great.
• 1:54:28
  Yeah. And especially for our
• 1:54:30
  literally, our first podcast in California, I feel like talking
• 1:54:33
  to. You was a great, like, way to
• 1:54:35
  start this. We're going to get in the car
• 1:54:37
  after this. In Frankie's was good pod, if
• 1:54:42
  you guys are happy with it, I'm glad
• 1:54:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interview interview them they
• 1:55:22
  realized. I was like, you should.
• 1:55:24
  I was like, I want to call them. I mean, you can if you want
• 1:55:29
  Teddy, that's who I want. I just want to ask if he
• 1:55:32
  actually has a plane. Does he have a plane?
• 1:55:34
  No, he doesn't. He fly.
• 1:55:35
  He flies y-yeah. Okay, in the one video, he was
• 1:55:38
  flying a plane and I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:55:41
  Are you calling him now? Facebook couple days ago.
• 1:55:50
  Oh, you're for real. Hey, doofus.
• 1:55:54
  Oh my god. Um, are you busy?
• 1:55:59
  Are you busy? Don't be Teddy, be normal.
• 1:56:12
  You know Teddy it's Frankie. What's up, man?
• 1:56:19
  Yeah, you're on the after-hours podcast right now.
• 1:56:22
  No, we were just talking about your team and everything I know
• 1:56:25
  and it and people were like dming us in there.
• 1:56:27
  Like you got to get them on the podcast and I was like, I don't
• 1:56:29
  know if I'm gonna be able to get all of them together, like, that
• 1:56:34
  would be kind of wild last minute.
• 1:56:36
  Yeah, but yeah, maybe so. The future.
• 1:56:40
  Hi teddy. My name is Carl.
• 1:56:41
  I work for Frankie. I love your car and do Dede,
• 1:56:45
  love your car and I told him it's a piece of shit.
• 1:56:53
  Yeah, he was telling me he was jacking it up and the car wasn't
• 1:56:57
  moving anywhere. Yeah, sounds good for sure.
• 1:57:10
  I'm else to talk to Yeah, that would be great.
• 1:57:14
  I mean, we're just out here for the weekend.
• 1:57:16
  So we were like trying to just rush and see who we could get
• 1:57:18
  our. You guys are only here till like
• 1:57:19
  Mother's Day. Yeah, doing doing doing real
• 1:57:31
  life stuff right now. So adult stuff.
• 1:57:35
  All right man. I can't believe you called him.
• 1:57:37
  What the hell? He funny.
• 1:57:38
  That's a bye Daddy. Thank you for answering though.
• 1:57:53
  Okay. I don't know what to say right
• 1:58:03
  now. Yeah, you made it this far.
• 1:58:09
  Drop a rating. Yeah, please God damn.
• 1:58:12
  This was fun. But I will say, I'm gonna get
• 1:58:15
  misaki on here one day. Yeah, no.
• 1:58:17
  You should. He has some stories.
• 1:58:18
  I sure you did. Well, I asked him like a couple
• 1:58:22
  months ago or something before we knew we were coming here.
• 1:58:24
  Yeah. And then he was like, yeah, it's
• 1:58:26
  no problem, but then he like threw it off on someone else.
• 1:58:28
  Like I'm sure what's his face, because he's experienced a whole
• 1:58:32
  industry side of it. Yeah, that era.
• 1:58:34
  Yeah, that's where I would want to ask because I was going to
• 1:58:36
  the bathroom. Really?
• 1:58:37
  I was like hey can I use your bathroom?
• 1:58:38
  Also are you guys hiring like yes started laughing, I'm like
• 1:58:43
  fuck. That means no.
• 1:58:45
  Definitely your dream job. Yes it would walking around this
• 1:58:47
  place is fucking I hope we captured some of it on a video
• 1:58:50
  for everyone but it's just dude, it's like memorabilia
• 1:58:53
  everywhere. Is that the firt?
• 1:58:57
  What is that? What the hell is that?
• 1:59:13
  Fuck. That is awesome.
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  All this stuff is crazy. So I mean, I gotta find
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  something to steal. And here before we leave, you're
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  ridiculous motherfucker. I hope hope he's still here.
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  I need a hoodie, I need, at least a hoodie.
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  Thank you, guys so much for listening before.
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  Frankie gets arrested for burglary and thank you.
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  Jason for being our lovely guest on the faction after-hours
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  podcast, if you made it this far, Definitely drop us a
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  rating. Yeah, it's been helping out a
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  lot and and thank you all so much for listening.
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  Good night, we'll see. All right guys, thank you for
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  listening to that episode of the after-hours podcast, that was
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  with Jason Kim of rival Auto. This was actually a really fun
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  one for me. I loved hearing about the
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  history of the SoCal drifting Community.
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  I think we learned a lot with this one and Jason's an awesome
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  guy. Hopefully we can come back and
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  do another one. And I mean we're going to try to
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  come back and do one with a peck.
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  See? Anyway, so, you know, hopefully,
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  we'll be able to get we'll get to in there and Course, we got
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  these side Fabrication in the building and we also have
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  unrivaled tuning. So there's a lot of we could.
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  We could literally go to SoCal again and just go to their shop
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  and record for podcast. So it was definitely a cool.
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