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[Podcast] Rising Up: How Gen Y and Gen Z Will Save America · Uncensored Objection

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, deep divers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ready for another deep dive?
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  SPEAKER_01: Today we're tackling some pretty significant political news and,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: honestly,
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  SPEAKER_01: a perspective that's been giving me some hope lately.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's...
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a perspective from a legal veteran, actually, Mitch Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might know his Substack uncensored objection.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've seen that around.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's what a lawyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: He is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's been around for a while,
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  SPEAKER_00: seeing a lot of,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: changes in society and politics and all that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what's this hopeful perspective he's got?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: he's really focused on Gen Y and Gen Z,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: millennials and the generation after them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he thinks they're going to completely reshape America.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK, I see that a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, young people, the future and all.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what makes Mitch's take different?
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  He's not just saying it,
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  you know,
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  he's really digging into the how and the why.
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  He lays out these really compelling arguments for how Gen Y and
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  Gen Z are already
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  SPEAKER_00: making a huge impact,
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  SPEAKER_00: politically speaking.
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  SPEAKER_00: And coming from a guy who's been observing this stuff for decades,
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  SPEAKER_00: it really makes you sit up and take notice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what are we waiting for?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the first thing that jumped out at you from his article?
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  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, the optimism, like right off the bat, you can feel it.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's genuinely hopeful about the future.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he says it's all thanks to what he's seeing from Gen Y and Gen Z.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  these days,
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  optimism can feel kind of rare,
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  especially when it comes to politics.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So to hear that from someone like Mitch,
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  SPEAKER_01: someone who's seen it all,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: that definitely piques my curiosity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just some fleeting feeling,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  it's coming from a place of deep observation and understanding
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  of how American
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  SPEAKER_00: society works.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's optimistic.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's making him feel that way?
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  Well,
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  for starters,
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  he talks about the sheer size of these generations combined.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gen Y and Gen Z, they're now the biggest voting bloc in the entire U.S.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK, yeah, I've heard that before.
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  SPEAKER_01: But a lot of people also say those generations don't vote, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what he's challenging.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's saying that's an outdated assumption.
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  These generations are voting and they're becoming more and more
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  politically active every day.
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  SPEAKER_01: How so?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are they doing that's got Mitch so excited?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: he talks about all sorts of things like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: traditional grassroots organizing,
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  SPEAKER_00: but also these powerful online movements that can spring up overnight.
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  They're incredibly vocal about what they believe in and aren't
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  afraid to advocate for change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've definitely seen that.
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  It feels like with social media and everything,
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  things can change so fast these days.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're not just reacting,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're organizing and forming coalitions across different communities,
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  SPEAKER_00: really understanding how to create this,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: collective impact.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's smart.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're organized, they're vocal, they're getting involved.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what are they actually fighting for?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are their goals?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all about their values, he says.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not about blind loyalty to one party or another,
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  SPEAKER_00: but about these core values that are driving their engagement.
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  And he highlights three in particular,
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  freedom,
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  fairness and a focus on the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK, let's break those down.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does he mean by freedom in this context?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just some abstract idea,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's about very real things like bodily autonomy,
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  SPEAKER_00: being able to live without fear of discrimination or violence,
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  SPEAKER_00: loving who you want to love without any barriers,
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  SPEAKER_00: and of course,
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  SPEAKER_00: freedom of speech.
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  SPEAKER_01: Makes sense.
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  And we've seen Gen Y and Gen Z really pushing back against any
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  perceived threats to
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  SPEAKER_01: those freedoms,
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  SPEAKER_01: right?
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  Like with reproductive rights,
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  LGBTQ plus rights,
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  even basic voting access.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not messing around when it comes to their freedoms.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what Mitch is picking up on.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just theoretical.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a lived experience for them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what about fairness?
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  SPEAKER_01: What does he mean by that?
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  Well,
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  he talks about how Gen Y and Gen Z are really focused on equal
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  protection under the law.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  SPEAKER_00: due process,
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  SPEAKER_00: a justice system that treats everyone the same,
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  SPEAKER_00: regardless of background or status.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a core American ideal.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we all know it doesn't always play out that way in reality.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what they're trying to change.
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  SPEAKER_00: They see the systemic inequalities.
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  SPEAKER_00: They see the injustices.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're pushing for reforms in areas like police accountability,
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  SPEAKER_00: student debt,
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  SPEAKER_00: even basic economic dignity for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a big agenda for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK, so freedom, fairness.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then he mentioned focus on the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's that about?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, think about it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: No generation has more at stake in the future than Gen Y and Gen Z.
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  SPEAKER_00: Issues like climate change,
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  SPEAKER_00: economic instability,
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  SPEAKER_00: those aren't abstract things for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're living with the consequences already.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good point.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's their future on the line.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it makes sense that they'd be the ones pushing for change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  And he talks about how they're not just thinking about the next
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  few years,
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  SPEAKER_00: but about the world they'll be inheriting for decades to come.
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  SPEAKER_00: They want a sustainable future,
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  SPEAKER_00: environmentally and economically,
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  SPEAKER_00: and one that's just and fair for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're not just reacting to current events.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're trying to build a better future.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  And what's interesting is that he also talks about how they're
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  responding to some
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  SPEAKER_00: of the,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: more difficult and even extreme political events we've seen lately.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You mean like Trump's presidency and all the fallout from that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even more recent stuff like those controversies with,
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  SPEAKER_00: what is it,
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  SPEAKER_00: SignalGate or something and the whole meme stock thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: DOGE and all that.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says they're very aware of these things.
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  They understand the complexities,
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  but they're not letting it get them down.
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  So instead of getting cynical or tuning out,
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  they're staying engaged and looking for solutions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says they understand that democracy requires work.
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  You know,
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  it's not something you inherit and just assume will always be there.
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  You have to actively participate,
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  defend it,
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  renew it with each generation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
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  OK,
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  so we've talked about their values,
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  their engagement,
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  their response to recent events.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the overall picture he's painting?
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  He thinks they're building something much better than just a
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  political campaign.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  SPEAKER_00: he calls it a movement,
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  something grounded in community connection and this idea of
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  reclaiming patriotism
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  SPEAKER_00: from the extremes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Reclaiming patriotism.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does he mean by that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: he says they love their country,
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  SPEAKER_00: but they reject the negativity,
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  SPEAKER_00: the division,
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  SPEAKER_00: the exclusion that's become so common in political discourse.
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  They're trying to redefine what it means to be patriotic in a
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  way that aligns with their values.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's not just about blind loyalty or flag waving.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about actively working to make the country better.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  And he points to all sorts of examples like young people at
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  pride marches carrying
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  SPEAKER_00: American flags,
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  SPEAKER_00: the way they stepped up to honor essential workers during the pandemic,
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  SPEAKER_00: their commitment to volunteering and voting.
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  It's about action,
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  about making a difference,
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  about building a more inclusive and just society.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like they're saying this is what love of country looks like to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  And he talks about how they're doing it in a really authentic
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  and human way,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: sharing their stories,
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  SPEAKER_00: listening to others,
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  creating content that resonates emotionally and inspires hope
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  and courage.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a powerful message for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: But there's still that issue of voter turnout.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you said,
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  millions of eligible Gen Y and Gen Z voters didn't participate
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  in the last election.
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  SPEAKER_00: He addresses that head on.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says it's not apathy,
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  but frustration and disillusionment with the traditional
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  political system.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he also sees signs that that's changing.
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  SPEAKER_01: How so?
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  SPEAKER_00: He talks about these new approaches to voter engagement,
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  SPEAKER_00: like young people going door to door,
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  SPEAKER_00: not to lecture,
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  SPEAKER_00: but to listen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Voter drives at concerts and community events,
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  SPEAKER_00: framing voting as something empowering and joyful,
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  SPEAKER_00: not a chore.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's smart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Meeting people where they are, making it relevant to their lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he makes this really inclusive call to action.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says you don't have to be Gen Y or Gen Z to be part of this movement.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about anyone who cares about the future,
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  SPEAKER_00: who believes in fairness and justice,
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  SPEAKER_00: who wants to see a better America.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what can people do?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's his advice?
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  SPEAKER_00: Simple things, really.
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  SPEAKER_00: Register to vote,
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  SPEAKER_00: volunteer,
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  SPEAKER_00: share your story,
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  SPEAKER_00: listen to others,
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  SPEAKER_00: step up and lead in whatever way you can.
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  SPEAKER_00: The point is to get involved, to not wait for someone else to fix things.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a reminder that we all have a role to play, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he ends on this really hopeful note.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says,
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  SPEAKER_00: Gen Y and Gen Z,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're bold,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're brave,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're connected,
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  SPEAKER_00: and they get what's at stake.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're already leading the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he thinks it's time for the older generations to support them.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a nice way to put it.
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  It's not about us versus them,
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  but about working together to build something better.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And his final thought is really powerful.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says, they're not just saving America, they're reinventing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we end up a note of hope and reinvention.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if anyone wants to hear more from Mitch himself,
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  SPEAKER_00: I highly recommend checking out his sub stack,
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  SPEAKER_00: Uncensored Objection.
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  SPEAKER_00: The full article is there, along with a lot of other great stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll put a link in the show notes for everyone.
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  And in the meantime,
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  I think Mitch leaves us with a good question to ponder.
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  What's one small but meaningful thing we can do today to
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  support that vision of a better future?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a question worth asking ourselves for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for diving deep with us, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next time.