Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Dave Emmons - Angels And Supernatural Entities
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- 0:04My name is Victor Ferman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:10fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and the crossroads at which they
- 0:16meet. Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more
- 0:21with fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination unlimited.
- 0:33In virtually every culture, faith, and belief system, you'll find the presence
- 0:40of supernatural beings. Some are referred to as angels, others as guides,
- 0:48and others as entities. Is there a connection between these beings and also a
- 0:54possible connection with ets? Returning to Destination Unlimited this week is my dear friend
- 1:00Dave Emmons. In addition to being a lifelong experiencer of alien contact, Dave
- 1:07has made an extensive study of all forms of spiritual beings and their contact with
- 1:11humanity in many forms. His previous books include They What Do They Want?
- 1:19And Senseless Wars and Conflicts. He joins me this week to share his continuing
- 1:25path and latest book, Angels and Supernatural Entities, The Alien Angel Connection.
- 1:33Please join me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited. Dave Emmons. Welcome Dave,
- 1:38Thank you Victor, and you're a great guy, and we've always had
- 1:44fun when we've talked. And your voice is really I mean, it's great.
- 1:49I have what they call a radio voice, but do you have a
- 1:53speaking voice. I love that. I love the voice. Today. For
- 1:56our listeners meeting you for the first time, please share your early life and
- 2:00how it set the stage for your calling. Well, my early life I
- 2:06started. I was a, of course, ann poverished kid. I had
- 2:09ten brothers and sisters. I played simply in boxes and things of that nature
- 2:15and in the yard. And I started off well in high school. I
- 2:21made pretty good grades. I was always I guess I didn't have to study
- 2:24much. I just went in and did my thing. But I had my
- 2:29first UFO encounters in nineteen sixty two and I saw one outside my house.
- 2:37I was sitting out there, my other brothers and sisters were inside, and
- 2:40this one was had blue like light being a flashing underneath of it. And
- 2:46the second one, I'll make this quick because it's an intro. The second
- 2:50was in nineteen sixty three. With a friend of mine, we saw this
- 2:53This h looked like a Nazi flying saucer are one of these little chubby tops
- 2:59that you kind of wind up and we saw this and we stood there and
- 3:02watched this thing we don't know how long. And I had a regress dream
- 3:06later that we were abducted and we were on that craft. And then after
- 3:10that, I played music with my brothers for forty years. I went to
- 3:15school, I got a communications degree. I've went into radio journalism just a
- 3:23little bit of the time because I had other jobs that I went to that
- 3:25made more money. So I was in the X ray and I was into
- 3:31I guess refinery Supervisor, in which they all have made more money than the
- 3:35radio unless you become a big, you know, accredited person, and then
- 3:40you're you're going to get these sponsors. But then I I've seen four other
- 3:44UFOs since then up close. I've had encounters with three ets in person.
- 3:51I've had the regressed lucid dreams about the other three or four that I saw,
- 3:57and these dreams are very lucid. And I've had little paranormal things that's
- 4:01been going on even as of this day that keep going on, and things
- 4:05that remind me that they're still watching me, they're still with me. We
- 4:11don't know. I don't know if they're ets or angels at times, and
- 4:15that's what we're going to talk about the new book, Angels and the Supernatural
- 4:20Entities. Interesting that you were a few years older than I am, but
- 4:26we had very similar experiences. When I got out of the Air Force in
- 4:30nineteen seventy nine, I'd been with Armed Forces Radio and TV doing broadcasting in
- 4:34Korean Guam, and I had applied to a bunch of radio stations and every
- 4:40place that I applied to was willing to hire me. They loved my tapes,
- 4:43but they were paying starvation wages. And I had a young family at
- 4:46the time, and I had to go into business because that was a background
- 4:49I also had had and that was the way I was able to support my
- 4:51family. But we come from that similar background, right, and also with
- 4:56the implants et experiences and then angelic you know, experiences together, that's why
- 5:02we click and that's whysolutely you know, I love talking to you. And
- 5:06I told my wife, I said, she said, she said, you're
- 5:09going to do this interview on a Saturday. I said, for victory,
- 5:12Yes, I will, thank you. Thank you. What was your faith
- 5:15background as a child and your understanding of the divine and our relationship with God.
- 5:23I started off going the preachers used to come to people's homes back in
- 5:29the fifties. You might remember the sixties more, but they used to come
- 5:33to the homes during the fifties and they would talk to my mom, in
- 5:36which my mom had twelve kids. Of course she lost one at birth,
- 5:40but she had eleven seven of us played music for forty years. And we
- 5:45were talking about she's ninety five and she's had ET and UFOL experiences and she
- 5:48also saw a craft along with me. She's a witness with me in twenty
- 5:53eleven. But she has an interesting life in that probably that part of it.
- 5:58But I went almost every church imaginable. I started off in a Baptist
- 6:02church when I was six or seven years old. The preacher had us go
- 6:05to his church, and my brother and I went there, my older brother
- 6:10and I, and they gave us a Bible and everything, and we didn't
- 6:13know what it was all about. We listened to him and we were listening
- 6:16to the preacher shouting and everything, and that kind of scared us a little
- 6:20bit, so we didn't go and we told my mom, and mom says,
- 6:24well, if you're afraid to go, let you're not going anymore.
- 6:27I'll tell the preacher when he comes here again. So after that, though,
- 6:30after I was a kid, I visited churches. Even in my teen
- 6:33years with friends, I visited Catholic Church, Methodist Church, Pentecostal Church.
- 6:41I've been to all of them, and so I have a good background in
- 6:44knowing what each one of these denominations do. And I do believe in God.
- 6:48I always did, and I believe in Jesus highly, and I accepted
- 6:53it the Jesus story at face value. But now I know there's more two
- 6:58the Jesus story and who he actually was and what he was actually trying to
- 7:03prove or approved the people back then that didn't understand him really, but I
- 7:09my faith. I got into Catholic I was baptized Catholic, Confirmed, and
- 7:14I was also baptized Protestant. So I have a I have a I guess
- 7:18you can call it a research in religion, not so much as a steady
- 7:23diet. I went to Catholic Church for about maybe eight nine years. That
- 7:27was probably the most diver spent in church. But nowadays I don't attend church.
- 7:31My wife would love to, she's a fundamentalist, and I'd like to
- 7:35go, but I don't like what the preachers are preaching. A lot of
- 7:40it's turned into money. Now it's all about the money. And it's also
- 7:45I find that with all my research and all the scientists I talked to them,
- 7:47people like yourself, Victor, I get I put the pieces of the
- 7:50puzzle altogether, and I kind of find out that they're they're not on the
- 7:55right track, that they they're part of our our history. That's not correct.
- 8:03And before we talk about your new book, Angel, Angels and Supernatural
- 8:07Entities, let's talk about what we talked about last time, your book.
- 8:11They what do they want? What do they want? Okay, here's here's
- 8:18here's what they they want. And I've I've had some experiences I think I've
- 8:22talked to you about the last six years, having weird experiences. There's three
- 8:30three types of visitations, and number one is bedside. They'll come to your
- 8:35bedside. And I had a little gray come to my bedside one time.
- 8:37And and what they do is they kind of knock you out. And if
- 8:41you're with your wife or anything, she's put out, she's she doesn't remember
- 8:46anything, she's asleep, and she's asleep when they come. And then they
- 8:48just they just make sure she stays asleep. And then what they do is
- 8:52they put you out. They take semen samples, DNA samples, and they
- 8:56take frequency samples from your your mind, They read your mind, they record
- 9:01everything that's in your mind. They get that, and then they get the
- 9:05DNA. And why they do the DNA thing, Well, the semen thing
- 9:09is something that they make hybrids out of. And actually they make these hybrids
- 9:15for other planets. We're not the only humans in this universe or maybe universes
- 9:20eleven universes. It's huge. It's infinity. We don't know what infinity is
- 9:24really, but they make these hybrids from our semen and our DNA, and
- 9:31they take and make these humans on other planets. And that's what they're doing.
- 9:35And also when when they have these animal mutilations, that's what they're doing
- 9:39with animals. They're taking the tender spots of the body where the DNA is
- 9:46pretty rich, like in the lips, the anus and the and the you
- 9:50know, the sexual organs and some of the stomach area. They take this
- 9:54DNA and they're reproducing cattle. This is protein for other humans on other planets.
- 10:01So this is kind of like a Noah's Ark type of thing they're planning
- 10:05humans on other planets, are reinforcing the human civilization on other planets. We're
- 10:11not the only humans. Like I said earlier, we are not the only
- 10:13humans. And this is why they take the DNA, the semen samples,
- 10:18and also animal mutilations. There's a second form of what they do to me.
- 10:24They froze me six years in a row. I woke up around three
- 10:28o'clock or so, and my hands were across my stomach like I was laying
- 10:31in a coffin. I never lay like that because I got a bad back.
- 10:35Usually lay on my right side, and I found myself laying on my
- 10:39back and I was frozen. I mean, I felt my arms. I
- 10:43thought I was dead. I looked over at my wife and she was sound
- 10:46asleep, and I wasn't thinking though. My mind was actually turned off.
- 10:50I got up, went to the bathroom. When you're cold, you have
- 10:52to go take a you know, you have to go yearinate. So I
- 10:54come back to bed covered up. I was so exhausted that I just fell
- 10:58off to sleep. But the next morning I remembered what happened. This happened
- 11:03six years in a row between August eleventh and August fourteenth. One time it
- 11:09happened in January. I have it into my book. I've wrote it down.
- 11:13I've talked to several doctors about it. And they said, well,
- 11:16the cold spell could have been at your air conditioner or something, or he
- 11:20wasn't covered up. I said, no, but it was August, it
- 11:22was hot, the air conditioner was on seventy two. I said, the
- 11:26room was at seventy two. And I said I was covered up, you
- 11:30know, with blanket. And they said, okay, well it could have
- 11:33been in your body, you know, you had maybe a kind of a
- 11:37sugar level drop or whatever. I said, well, how about six years
- 11:41in a row on about the same date. And then the doctor, this
- 11:45was a great doctor, she was one of the best ever had. She
- 11:46had a helper with her, well not a helper, but a trainee,
- 11:50and they both looked at each other, and then she looked at me.
- 11:52Her eyes got real wide, and she goes, six years in a row,
- 11:56same date. I said yes, and she didn't know what to say.
- 12:00And then she said, I don't know what to tell you, David,
- 12:03And I say, well, it truly happened. And actually she ended
- 12:05up getting a copy of my book, so maybe she knows what happens happened
- 12:09to me. But that's the second way they do is they take your energy,
- 12:15they take your soul, your consciousness, and they take it to another
- 12:18dimension. Your body is left there without energy, so your body's going to
- 12:24go cold because the energy isn't there to drive the body temperature. They do
- 12:30this probably in a short while, because when they go to another dimension,
- 12:33their time is different than our time. I could be gone just physically the
- 12:39energy physically gone for five minutes, but to another dimension that could be another
- 12:45I could be an r to ours that they're examining me. Are they're training
- 12:48me for some kind of a mission that I don't know. I've never had
- 12:50regress dreams from these frozen missions I call them. The third way is when
- 12:56they abduct you and take you on board a ship. I've I've had that
- 13:00happen, and that's that's happened to me several times. I have lucid dreams
- 13:05about being on board these ships. And I actually was on board what I
- 13:09call it a Noah's Ark ship where they created this this life. So those
- 13:15are the three forms of abductions and the reason why they do this is that
- 13:20they're reading your consciousness. They want to know how conscious you are about things
- 13:24around you. And they only usually pick on people that have a that take
- 13:30the box off their head. That's what I'm trying to say. And then
- 13:33you have the consciousness to accept them and to believe in them, and that's
- 13:37who they're attracted to. But they're also attracted to your DNA frequencies. Your
- 13:43your DNA frequencies. Let them know where you're at. Because they followed me
- 13:46from what the Illinois, they followed me to Alaska, Philippines. Wherever I
- 13:50went, they knew where I was at because they can track me through my
- 13:54DNA frequency. We all have different frequencies with our DNA. It's almost like
- 13:58a radio station or whatever. But the implants, like you and I had
- 14:03Victor, the implants are for a different reason that actually the carbon based implants
- 14:11and which are They dissolve in your body and I had one in my left
- 14:15leg and I took that out. They actually look like little octopi our brain
- 14:20neurons and the microscope and what they do is they follow your nerve patterns.
- 14:24They go up to your nervous system and then they attached to your your your
- 14:28brain and actually they they can they change how you think, they actually improve
- 14:35your intelligence. There's actually a study from Harvard. And also I had the
- 14:41scientists on my program a couple of weeks ago who talked about this. He
- 14:45was involved in this study. He said that these he said, anybody who's
- 14:48had UFO or ET experiences, they get a certain amount of higher intelligence level.
- 14:56They start doing things differently, they start, you know, being smarter.
- 15:01I guess you could say. And I said, oh, I'm glad
- 15:03for that, you know. Gee, I didn't want anything to make me
- 15:05more dumb as I get older. But that was great to hear. I
- 15:09mean, the Harvard study said it to people that have these contacts or abductees,
- 15:16they have an increase in intelligence and awareness consciousness. And that's what I
- 15:22think you have and I have that. So that's a good thing, you
- 15:26know. But based upon method number one that you had mentioned, or a
- 15:30reason number one that you had mentioned, I wonder if there is a little
- 15:33Dave and a little Victor on another planet someplace else there is I had a
- 15:37double. I had a double coming out of New Mexico, the Trinity Site
- 15:43I was. I was there and it was in twenty ten. When I
- 15:46was doing twenty ten twenty twenty twelve, I went up the Sedona and I
- 15:50traveled quite a bit out west for the energy and for the spiritual connection.
- 15:56Sometimes had a third on my window as I was driving. It was a
- 15:58clean Christine road. It's where Smokey the Bear lives. It was his hometown
- 16:03right there. It was just about twenty miles north of the Trinity Center where
- 16:07the first Adam bomb went off. And I asked the ladies there and say,
- 16:10hey, is there any trips to the Trinity. They said, no,
- 16:12that's two times the week, and you gotta you have to sign up
- 16:15for it, and you gotta get on a bus. You can't go by
- 16:18yourself. You're supervised when you go out there. I said, oh wow.
- 16:22I said, well this is not today. So I went on.
- 16:25But when I got down the road, I felt a thud on my passenger
- 16:27side of the window, and then I felt the hair on the back of
- 16:32my neck just go up, and I said, whoa. It was kind
- 16:34of like some kind of energy hits you. And like I said, there
- 16:37wasn't any rocks. It was clean, a very clean highway. We've never
- 16:41seen one that's clean. Really, there wasn't any rocks in the road or
- 16:45anything, and I thought, okay, and I felt something weird for about
- 16:48five minutes, and all of a sudden thump, there was another thump that
- 16:52went back out the window, and I thought something just happened, and of
- 16:56course I slowed down to try to figure out, okay, what's going on?
- 17:00And then I went to Roswell spend a night there, and I went
- 17:03to a hotel in San Antonio and the gal there, make this story short,
- 17:08we talked and we you know, she was pretty pretty nice gal receptionists,
- 17:12and then she told me that the next morning she looked mad at me.
- 17:17She said she was, you know, she said she's afraid or whatever.
- 17:21And I said what afraid of what? And she goes, you,
- 17:23she because you followed me last night. I said no, I didn't.
- 17:26She said you were at the Walmart after I got off work at eleven thirty.
- 17:30I said no, I wasn't. And then she went on to,
- 17:33you know, say it was you because it was dressed like you, it
- 17:36looked like you, And I said, no, it was not me.
- 17:38I was in pad at ten thirty because I hurt my leg, scratched my
- 17:42leg when I drug my car kind of took off on its own, and
- 17:47I tried to catch it. I thought I'd be a he man and hold
- 17:48it back, but I scraped my leg all up on the gravel. I
- 17:52took some advil and I put some ointment on the night I went to sleep
- 17:56early ten thirty. I said that was not me. I was so mad
- 18:00at her. I thought I'm gonna tell her manager. But I thought,
- 18:03okay, this is a woman's word against my word. I'm from out of
- 18:06town, so guess what you know. I'm just I just figured I just
- 18:10moon walked out the door, get in my car, and take off.
- 18:14And then I went to get my car looked at for hail damage. After
- 18:18I got back at the dealership and there was a guy there who saw me
- 18:22sitting down. I just sat down for about a minute. I just give
- 18:26the paperwork to the guy, the body guy. He's going to give me
- 18:29an estimate. And I sat there and this guy said, you've been here
- 18:32a long time. I said, no, sir, I haven't. He
- 18:33goes, yes, you have. I said, what do you mean?
- 18:36I said, I just sat down, sir, And he looked like he
- 18:38just got done golfing. Or whatever. You know, he looked like a
- 18:41lawyer or whatever type, and he said he pointed his finger. He said,
- 18:45I'm not going to tell you, you know what you look like or
- 18:48how I've seen you. But he said it was you. And he said,
- 18:51I don't know why you're lying. I said, sir, I'm not
- 18:52lying. I said, I said, I don't know what you've seen.
- 18:55And he says, I'm not going to go any further with this. He
- 18:56said that it was you. You've been here two hours. So in that
- 19:02same time period, within days, somebody saw me twice. So that kind
- 19:06of told me there was a double. They make a double of you.
- 19:08Your new book, Angels and Supernatural Entities, The Alien Angel Connection, you
- 19:15share that during your service in Vietnam, you sensed you were protected by a
- 19:19guardian angel. What was this like and how did this awaken angel consciousness for
- 19:25you? Well, Victor, when I was in Vietnam, we were under
- 19:30far quite a bit. We you know, I saw a lot of action,
- 19:36but we were under fire one night and a guy was setting down in
- 19:40the bunker and he was reloading his weapon and I was up shooting, and
- 19:45he pulled on my pant legs and he said. He said, Dave,
- 19:48do you believe in God? And I looked at him and said, yes,
- 19:52I do. And he said, could you pray for me? I
- 19:55said, I'm praying for us right now. I said, but God wants
- 19:57you to get up and defend yourself. I said, get up and start
- 20:00shooting. I said, let's let's get with the program. So, but
- 20:04that wasn't the only time. I Also I was out putting in claymore minds
- 20:11myself and another guy was a platoon sergeant, so I had to kind of,
- 20:14you know, keep watching things. We were putting in these claymores,
- 20:17and sniper took a shot at me. It went right over my head,
- 20:22sounded like a bumblebee and it just missed me by inches. And I told
- 20:27the other guy to hit the dirt and then he fired again and the round
- 20:32went in front of me, and I thought, okay, something's protecting me.
- 20:37And so we called the chopper in and they took out the sniper and
- 20:42the guy said that was with me. He said, how did you How
- 20:47did you know that this was, you know, a sniper. I said,
- 20:48didn't you see the rounds? He said, yes, I did,
- 20:51He said so, and I said, I think I think the angels helped
- 20:56us. I told this guy. So I felt there was something watching over
- 20:59me. And whenever there was time in a combat situation like being in a
- 21:03truck, one time, one incident, it happened. This happened several times.
- 21:07We get rocket fire and mortar fire, and we were moving in the
- 21:11truck. And I had a squad there with me in the truck. And
- 21:14I told and this truck drivers stopped and they looked at me. They all
- 21:18looked at me. And when it comes to making a decision life or death,
- 21:22it's kind of a really heavy load, Victor, you know, especially
- 21:26my young age. I was only about twenty years old. And they asked
- 21:30me what were we gonna do? And I just went quiet and I listened.
- 21:33You know, you know the Bible, and you know God, Victor,
- 21:37that the set of you said, and listen, God will talk to
- 21:40you. So what he what I was listening for, was what to do.
- 21:45And it told me what to do. It said, do not stop,
- 21:48you know, don't leave the truck stop because they'll they'll pinpoint you.
- 21:52Move the truck as fast as you can and get back to the compound.
- 21:56And so that's what I said, I founded on the truck top. I
- 22:00that move fast, get back the compound and then and I say, everybody
- 22:03down. So but when I when I started. Sometimes when when those decisions
- 22:10come to you, other guys or people that you're in charge, and we'll
- 22:12look at you like you're going to kill us all. What are you waiting
- 22:15for? Well, I'm waiting for something to tell me what I should do.
- 22:19So that's the angel intervention. His book is called Angels and Supernatural Entities
- 22:26The Alien Angel Connection. Dave Emmons, please tell our listeners with it and
- 22:30get your book and find out more about you. Okay, Well, I
- 22:34told the radio station last night, I said, Google me Baby. That's
- 22:41a good that's a shirt that I should wear as a Google me Baby.
- 22:45I'm all over the internet, but you can. You can find my books
- 22:48on Amazon, and actually Amazon's going to be my publisher on this other book,
- 22:52but uh, in both the next two books, I guess. But
- 22:56I'm on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and Shindle with my books, and I've
- 23:02got a website on Hanger one Publishing. They've got the website on me and
- 23:07my two books. For now. That's one. I have another publisher coming
- 23:11up soon. But they have my website on Hanger One Publishing. Look that
- 23:17up. You can find my books. But if you go into Facebook,
- 23:19or if you go into YouTube, or if you go into rumble LinkedIn,
- 23:25you'll find my shows, strange reality shows that I've been recording and putting and
- 23:32posting on all these sites. So that's how they can find me. And
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- 24:56Destination Unlimited. My guest. This week, my dear friend Dave Emmons were
- 25:02talking about his new book Angels and Supernatural Entities, The Alien Angel Connection.
- 25:08Based upon your extensive research and experienced, Dave, what is an angel?
- 25:15Well, an angel was made. Some people say it was made because of
- 25:19Jesus was when he was here a couple of thousand years ago, but they
- 25:25said not angels were made way before mankind. Our DNA goes back four point
- 25:32five billion years old, and older scientists are figuring that out now that they
- 25:37say our DNA is older than four point five billion years old, and that's
- 25:41the age of the Earth and what they're saying and what a lot of scholars
- 25:47are saying. Even the Bible says that the angels were here before man because
- 25:52angels had to prepare for mankind in order to help take care of them.
- 25:56So there are thousands and thousands and thousands, they say in the Bible of
- 26:00angels that were created by God. There there are spiritual energy beings that can
- 26:07shape shift and turn into anything they want. They can travel dimensions without any
- 26:12problem. Distance and time is not a problem for angels. They're basically like
- 26:18extraterrestrial. Actually they're considered extraterrestrial because they come from outside of the earth reality.
- 26:26So you know, it's that's that's what an angel is. They're a
- 26:30spiritual being and they're invisible. They can come in your house. They're invisible
- 26:33and they can watch you, but they can manifest into something material, in
- 26:38which in my book I do have you know, people who've seen angels and
- 26:45with them and setting aside their bedside and things of this nature. My relatives,
- 26:49actually, my sister and my mother just had that that that feeling,
- 26:53a sensation of something was with them in their hospital room. Uh, Actually,
- 26:57my sister saw this woman come in and she was the angel manifested into
- 27:03a human. What they do is they they know who you are. They
- 27:07read your mind, they know what you will accept. And it's like me
- 27:11when I saw the lady in white in nineteen seventy one and in nineteen ninety
- 27:15eight. Both times, I come back from the war seventy one, and
- 27:19of course I was a little bit traumatized. So angels will visit you whenever
- 27:23you're traumatized or when they when you need their help, they will come and
- 27:29show themselves. They must have some energy that they spread to you, because
- 27:33you have a euphoric feeling when they're around you. And when I saw this
- 27:37lady in white, and I woke up at three o'clock and I felt something
- 27:41in the room, and I saw this lady in white just standing there,
- 27:45and she was about five foot seven five ft eight. She had a veil
- 27:48arm, she had a white robe, and she looked at me for a
- 27:51little while, and then she turned and walked away into my bathroom. I
- 27:55followed her and she wasn't there. She's gone. And that happened at my
- 27:57mom's house in seventy one. The same thing she stood at in the foot
- 28:03of my bed looked at me. Around the same time, three to four
- 28:06o'clock in the morning, walked into my mom's room. My Wolcrover said,
- 28:08did you see something? She goes no. I said there was a lady
- 28:11in white. She goes no. I didn't see it. So that's how
- 28:15they come to you. They come to you how you feel more. I
- 28:18guess comfortable with what they look like. They come to you in human form.
- 28:23Some people they see angels with wings because that's how they perceive them in
- 28:27their mind. And whatever you perceive in your consciousness, the angels pick that
- 28:33up. But actually angels are spiritual beings made by God. And God is
- 28:38this massive white energy that's in the center of all the universes, and so
- 28:45he's the creator. And I believe in God a victor, and I believe
- 28:48that God creates. They say when light slows down. Scientists have figured this
- 28:52out too, When light slows down, it turns into matter. And so
- 28:56God is nothing but this massive energy white and the angels are created from that
- 29:03energy and that spiritual energy that they come here to us and they know when
- 29:10we need our help. And that's what the books about it's angels one oh
- 29:14one actually in a way, because I start off with the archangels, there's
- 29:17seven of those, and then there's thousands and thousands and thousands of worker be
- 29:21angels that assist us. And then there's also spirit guides. Spirit guides can
- 29:26be anything that can be your past relative. They can be a friend that
- 29:30has passed over, and it could be actually an animal, a dog that
- 29:36you that you loved, that can come to you in your time of need.
- 29:40And so spirit guides will tell you you know what you should do.
- 29:44A lot of times they talk to you in your sleep. They tell you
- 29:47what you know, what, what's your next move or what. They try
- 29:49to comfort you and give you knowledge and wisdom. And that's Angels are just
- 29:55that. They're just energy that is created by God, that is set here.
- 29:57They come through dimension to us whenever we need them, and they help
- 30:02us. Sometimes a lot of times they don't help us. We have a
- 30:07destiny. Each human has a destiny. But if you if your destiny is
- 30:11not to end your life at that particular time, an angel will intervene and
- 30:17help you get through that like they did me and like they did you Victor.
- 30:21They help you in times of need, and they'll change your direction.
- 30:25That changes your your whole outlook on life. When you have an encounter with
- 30:29an angel and you know that you had death facing you, and all of
- 30:30a sudden you're alive and you feel so elated and so euphoric, that that's
- 30:36that spiritual feeling. And I got that from actually ET because it's too so
- 30:41ets could actually have some kind of a spiritual energy with them also, So
- 30:45that's basically what an angel. I think that is all about the last couple
- 30:51of years, whenever I've been contemplating something, having to make a major decision,
- 30:56or have been bothered by something or emotionally upset, I had this feeling
- 31:00of someone or something brushing a hand on the top of my head. Is
- 31:06that what we're talking about, Yes, you're talking about the same thing.
- 31:08You're talking about, a spiritual connection. I've had that happen to me on
- 31:14my back and on my shoulder and on my head. I turned, I
- 31:17asked my wife, did you touch me? And she was laying away from
- 31:19me, so I know it wasn't her. And I've had this tingling energy
- 31:23feeling, and which I just told you happened about a week or so ago.
- 31:26It was about three o'clock in the morning, and my whole body,
- 31:30my first my chest tingled. I had this feeling before, and I thought,
- 31:33okay, this could be a heart attack. No, it's not.
- 31:36I didn't have any any other functions that bothered me so much. That heart
- 31:40wasn't bothering me. I wasn't weak or a nauseous than anything. And then
- 31:44my whole body tingled from head to toe. It was tingling, and it
- 31:48felt so good. I said, oh wow, I just took a deep
- 31:52breath and it's kind of like it was like so euphoric and spiritual that it
- 31:56was. And my mom was ninety five. I told her about it,
- 31:59and she said experiences. She told me. She said, that's a healing
- 32:01session. I said, wow, that's pretty sharp. Mom. You know
- 32:06you know they were healing me. I guess so, yes, I believe
- 32:09that the witch are saying. The touching and the feel of my wife's even
- 32:13felt that. She asked me, did you touch me on the head?
- 32:15I said no, I didn't, And on my shoulders. I said no,
- 32:21I didn't. So actually we're being visited, yes we are. It
- 32:24could be a spirit guide, could be maybe your past relative or a friend.
- 32:30Also, the spirit guides could come from other planets. We don't think
- 32:34about that. They could be other human beings with souls on other planets,
- 32:38just like us that have passed away. But they have the ability to come
- 32:43here to our Earth or anywhere in the universe, because like I said,
- 32:46angels can travel dimensions without time our distance considered at all. So, yes,
- 32:52you're right, Victor, I feel that same way that she did.
- 32:57You were touched by an angel. Are angels independent agents or are they under
- 33:02the direction of God? They are told what they should do. They the
- 33:13archangels are actually in charge like Michael, he's the top boss. They are
- 33:20in charge of helping mankind. And the angels are under a directive of God.
- 33:24From what I've read that God doesn't individually tell them to go to each
- 33:30individual you know, Earth or another planet, are you know, to go
- 33:35to different people, are human beings or even ets. He's not directing them
- 33:39at each one, but He's given them the wisdom and knowledge to be able
- 33:45to understand who needs their help, and so they are under a directive like
- 33:52from God. It's just like if the president directs the military to go to
- 33:55war, then it's up to the generals to carry that war out. It's
- 33:59the same it said, in the same manner. God creates this directive for
- 34:04the angels, and the angels carry that out on their own. They see
- 34:07where people need help, they go do their job. Can we be angels
- 34:12ourselves when we pass over? Yes, my research has told it. When
- 34:16we pass over, you know, we're reborn again what they talk about in
- 34:21the Bible, and actually we're reborn in a spirit form. And that spirit
- 34:25form can take the form of a spirit guide. And they said even in
- 34:30the Bible that that people souls pass over, they could actually become an angel
- 34:37and and work and work with God and help people and the you know,
- 34:42I guess you call us matter or just a bucket of flesh, whatever you
- 34:47say that where that's all we are. You know, the body means nothing
- 34:52actually to God. We have to take care of that in order to maintain
- 34:55our spirit and our soul. How are angels in their faiths similar or different
- 35:01than the angels described in the Judeo Christian tradition. Okay, I have a
- 35:07list of different religions throughout mankind. Buddha, they don't exactly believe in angels.
- 35:15They Buddha believed in heaven was the main power, or you would say
- 35:21heaven was the angel part of it. Not Judea and Christian beliefs. They
- 35:28believe in angels. Yes, they have the archangels listed and everything like that,
- 35:32and there's seven of them. But they also they're the ones who who
- 35:37actually, I guess progress this angel theory. But also the Muslims. A
- 35:44lot of people will be surprised if you don't believe in angels, you can't
- 35:47be a Muslim, because they believe in angels too. There's a good part
- 35:52of the Muslims, and there's a pad part you know of Muslims, the
- 35:55ones who you know, there's two different Qurans and I think you know that
- 36:00Victor, probably more than I do. But they actually believe in angels.
- 36:05The other religions believe in divas, like in India, they're you know,
- 36:09they're Buddhism and they have Buddhism and Hinduism in India, and they actually believe
- 36:15in divas. Are the angels? Uh? These are they? You know,
- 36:21we call divas nowadays, these female singers who are big pop stars and
- 36:24everything, but actually divas were angels to the to the Indian Eastern Indian people
- 36:30back thousands of years back ago, but they didn't have angels as were saying,
- 36:36but they had different names for the divas, and that's along with the
- 36:39names. But I found that throughout all the religions, there's only a few
- 36:45of them that don't really believe, like Buddhism is one of them. Don't
- 36:49really believe in angels, but the heavens above. And there's there's another religion.
- 36:55Uh, it's a name that can't pronounce. I don't it's a long
- 36:59list. It's all in the book that I cover. But the majority of
- 37:05religions do believe in angels, and they believe that there's a contact with these
- 37:10these types of beings that come to them and visit them. They actually in
- 37:15the Bible, if you take a look at the Bible of Judea Christian,
- 37:20what they say in the Old Testament is a lot of times like with Lot,
- 37:24the Sodom and Gomor, there were two angels that visited them told them
- 37:30to get out of town because there was going to be God was going to
- 37:32have retribution and really destroy the town. So when they want to visit a
- 37:37Lot and they read his door, the people who were sinful, very sinful,
- 37:43and that's why they were destroying the town. They wanted to rape these
- 37:46two angels. So what that says is that these two angels were human like
- 37:52they come in human form, and then throughout the Bible it talks about you
- 37:58know, like Ezekiel Isaiah, they see human beings as being angels, so
- 38:02they take the form of human beings. So Judea, Christian, and Muslim,
- 38:09those religions really believe in angels and the rest of them have a different
- 38:15thought. Divas or they call them masters. So it's yeah, it's so
- 38:20much different. It's kind of hard to explain how they how they feel about
- 38:23them and what they what they say they are, you know, divas are
- 38:28something similar to humans. They take and give them wisdom. This is in
- 38:32India. India has a rich history of I guess you say ufo and divas
- 38:39and then one part believes in angels and representatives a wisdom and knowledge. But
- 38:45it it's all basic to most all religions that there is some contact with the
- 38:52heavens are with angels who come in contact and give them wisdom and knowledge and
- 38:58also help them out and our deepest you know, fears so yeah. His
- 39:04book is entitled Angels and Supernatural Entities The Alien Angel Connection. We'll be back
- 39:09with more of Dave Emmons after these words on the Own Times Radio network.
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- 39:43your Heart is. Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, my
- 39:49dear friend Dave Emmons his new book, Angels and Supernatural Entities The Alien Angel
- 39:55Connection. Dave. The Book of Daniel produces us to the Watchers. Who
- 40:01were the Watchers and how do they relate to angels and other spiritual beings?
- 40:07Well, actually, if you really go back to the Book of Enoch,
- 40:13the watches are mentioned there and that's the time of Noah, you know,
- 40:19and it goes back. Well, scientists don't really know, but they're saying
- 40:23that this thing with Noah happened something like five thousand years ago, but it's
- 40:29actually older than that. It's handed down to cultural tradition, word of mouth
- 40:32and everything. The Watchers they were actually they were fallen angels, in which
- 40:42some of them were I guess demons or devils half of them where they said
- 40:47there was two hundred of them that were bad. They were Nephelim part of
- 40:52the Nephelim a branch of I guess bloodlines or whatever that was created. But
- 40:59actually the Watchers were fallen angels, but they were the good ones who actually
- 41:06were mixed in with humankind, and they actually were working just like angels would,
- 41:12but they were actually in a physical form, so they saw him as
- 41:15human beings. There's a story with Jesus in which is I guess brings the
- 41:20watchers up a little bit closer than than Enoch. There was a story about
- 41:25Jesus being in a town and he had he went to dinner with this rich
- 41:30person and his disciples. They told them that the watchers told them that the
- 41:37Roman soldiers were coming, or they were they were coming to find out what's
- 41:42going on. And so it was actually the watchers or angels they were taking
- 41:46care of Jesus. They were in human form and the Watchers, I had
- 41:52to say with all, I guess the struggling understanding with what the watchers were.
- 41:58Even from the Book of Enoch, the three books he had, the
- 42:00Watchers and Nephelim all mentioned they're together and the bad angels whatever, the fallen
- 42:08angels they were, they were. Their boss was the devil of course,
- 42:15Satan himself, that had his own legions in his army here on earth.
- 42:20But they fought them, and actually in the Bible it says that they fought
- 42:23them and the good one over the evil. But the watchers maintain themselves and
- 42:30working with humans, so they are the good angels. They're more or less
- 42:35like angels, you can call them. I don't think there was any definitive
- 42:38thing in the Bible that that says that they're any different. But the watchers
- 42:43are probably somebody who's an angel that watches over us. Now, you know,
- 42:47they oway say, well, there's angels watching over us, and so
- 42:52the word watcher comes, I guess along with the angels. But there's different
- 43:00definitions in the Bible and interpretations of the Bible, and they're still struggling with
- 43:05a lot of different interpretations. Greek. You know, you got to the
- 43:08Middle Eastern, you got Jewish religion Judea that have different wordings and different definitions
- 43:16for things. But I would like to say that watchers, they protected Jesus,
- 43:22they let him know what was going on. Their angels and are guardian
- 43:25angels in a way. It's a mixture of all of it, so,
- 43:29you know, but the watchers started with Ezekiel uh and these ezekiels they didn't
- 43:36start with this Zequel, but Ezekiel had had also people that were telling him
- 43:40and all the prophets were actually told or guided by watchers. And they call
- 43:45them angels. There's a mix of you can call them, you know,
- 43:50watchers, angels, whatever, But it's a it's a mixture. It's a
- 43:53confusing mixture that I've seen, but it's it's started I was. I was
- 43:59eluding to that. It started with the Book of Enoch. In the three
- 44:01books that he had, they talked about the watchers. So it's they're good
- 44:07angels, not the bad ones. Actually, Jesus said that the demons are
- 44:13not are not here. They've been defeated and they left. But the demons
- 44:20that we have are The devil that we have is inside of each person.
- 44:24That's you know, the right shoulder, left shoulder, good and bad,
- 44:29you know, devil or angel whatever. Each person has their own characteristics.
- 44:36Some people are bad, some people are good. You got a fifty fifty
- 44:39saying there. So they that's what they're trying to say. But the watchers
- 44:43like getting back to that. They are angels in a way, and they
- 44:47take care of those. This discussion leads to a very important question from your
- 44:52experience and research, what is the et angel connection. The et angel connection
- 45:01has never been really, I guess deciphered are determined by scientists. Of course,
- 45:08academia stays away from ET things and still until now with disclosure. Ets
- 45:15and angels are both extraterrestrial, and so are ghosts, and so are you
- 45:22know, polder guys. They're all basically extraterrestrial. That means they're coming from
- 45:29other dimensions to our earthly realm, so they're traveling through dimensions coming here.
- 45:37Ets and angels are the same when it comes to that how they get here.
- 45:40They travel through dimensions, but angels are are different because they're summoned by
- 45:46God to do things for humans that will help them out in their time of
- 45:52need. Ets come here for their own actually benefit half of them. They're
- 45:59trying to repopulate other planets, or they're working with us. They're watching over
- 46:04us. You can call each some ET's angels. I heard that there's four
- 46:07et races that actually watch over the Earth. They don't want us to have
- 46:12a nuclear war because the nuclear war would would destroy this Earth, and this
- 46:19Earth is their test tube. A lot of ets are using this as a
- 46:22as a testing site, and it's a it's a great place because the Earth
- 46:27is If you look at this Earth and compare it to other planets, there
- 46:30might be other earths out there. They're saying that there are. But the
- 46:32ets in a way are kind of look they're looking over us, and they're
- 46:37kind of watching out for us, just the same as angels do. So
- 46:42some of them have the same job as angels. I know a lot of
- 46:45people can say, oh, now now he's crazy. No, not really.
- 46:47I think there's a lot of ets. There's four races who actually work
- 46:51with our government. The government never admit that, but it's been coming through
- 46:54and disclosure and also through whistleblowers that these ain't these each have been working with
- 47:00us and helping us out. They don't want a nicular war there. I
- 47:05hope that they stop one because we got these are crazy times now that we
- 47:08have leadership that's really far out there and we're facing some rough times. But
- 47:15I think the ets. I keep thinking about the ets being similar to angels
- 47:20in that respects some of them. You have to imagine. They said it's
- 47:23about fifty six different races of ets from some estimates. Academia actually with talking
- 47:30about that around the universe. And we're not the only humans, of course,
- 47:35a lot of human races out there. So angels have their hands full
- 47:38in working with all the life that God has produced in the universes, and
- 47:44the ets are actually reproducing life too. They have their own agenda. They
- 47:50produced life. I was on a ship. I was had a lucid dream
- 47:53that I was on a ship with It was a huge ship. It had
- 47:59metallic walls, stainless steel, and there was a tall lady that I ran
- 48:02into. She bought seven foot tall, She ball headed, had big eyes.
- 48:06She was very attractive. But I ended up in a room to where
- 48:10they had these animals on a podium and there was a bunch of humanoid looking
- 48:15people in the room. It is really full and on these podiums. They
- 48:21had different animals. There was three different animals, and there was a tall
- 48:23humanoid that had a rope or a chain on these these animals. And what
- 48:30I saw, what I thought was this was a Noah's Ark type of ship.
- 48:34They were creating life and putting it on planets that these people are,
- 48:37these things are, these animals would survive on. And that's that's where I
- 48:45think that you know, we're all over the universes and the angels and the
- 48:50ets are actually doing the same works as God. I guess they're trying to
- 48:54mimic God, and they are when they create life. They know all about
- 48:59our DNA, they know about other DNAs on other planets, So they're creating
- 49:01life on other planets that actually would fit that planet's atmosphere, it's temperature,
- 49:08and that type of thing. Actually, we don't, we don't actually belong
- 49:13here. From what I heard. You know that we have to wear clothes
- 49:16to be on this planet, and we have to wear warm clothes for cold
- 49:21cold areas, and we have to wear less clothes and hot areas. So
- 49:24they say, for some reason, us humans were just not really made for
- 49:29these temperature variations. So what were we made for I don't know that,
- 49:35but there's other planets out there probably have more a better habitable type of situation
- 49:42than what we might have here. You closed your book by sharing that humans
- 49:45are actually supernatural beings. Please explain, Well, yeah, supernatural beings is
- 49:52anything that's outside of our thinking. Ets are supernatural. Angels are supernatural beings
- 50:01because they're not they're not in our nature. They're not here with us,
- 50:07and they're not physical. Well, actually they say there's ets here in human
- 50:10form all over. A doctor David Jacob said that they're here with us,
- 50:15but supernatural means it's outside of our world. Are what we think is our
- 50:22world. They're finding different creatures all the time, sciences, but we don't
- 50:25anything that's beyond our thought and our knowledge. It's not in a book,
- 50:30is more or less supernatural? Angels are supernatural. Cryptids are actually I wrote
- 50:37that in the book are supernatural. Ghosts are supernatural, of course, And
- 50:43what they say about ghosts is Jesus went to his disciples after he rose on
- 50:49the third Day, and he wanted his disciples, and doubting Thomas did he
- 50:53said he didn't believe him, and so he showed him his hands and his
- 50:58hands had holes in him, but it wasn't his hands is actually his wrisk.
- 51:00I think they got that wrong in the Bible. And he said he
- 51:05felt the hole in his side, and he said, yes, you are
- 51:08Jesus, and he looks at him and he says, you would think that
- 51:13you saw a ghost. So this got me into thinking about the ghost thing.
- 51:16And Jesus actually made him. There was kind of a mistake in the
- 51:20Bible because Jesus did not believe in ghosts. He said there was no ghost,
- 51:24and he said, he said, you think you think you're looking at
- 51:28a ghost, it's me, Jesus, not a ghost. But then it
- 51:30comes back around and it says, I think it was in another chapter the
- 51:35bike Luke, it's Luke thirty four thirty seven forty three questions whether or not
- 51:42he introduced the Bible contradiction. This was a passage Jesus said the spirit as
- 51:46some version states a ghost, and that was a contradiction in the Bible.
- 51:51So that's the chapter Luke twenty four thirty seven forty three in which there was
- 51:55a contradiction of ghosts. Because Jesus didn't believe in ghost He said that spirits
- 52:00will stay around for maybe two or three days to make sure the human body
- 52:06is dead and the body is not living anymore in the spirit will leave.
- 52:12And that's that's what Jesus said. And he said about ghosts, there was
- 52:15no ghost but as we know now, And I just talked to a scientific
- 52:21guy who did a study with Harvard, Harvard, and now I'm getting dry
- 52:28lips, but he said, Harvard, and they actually found they have ghosts
- 52:32on film, they have balls of energy on film, and academia actually believes
- 52:37that there are such things as ghosts residual energy. So that is a supernatural
- 52:44thing that's actually does exist. I've had some doubts about ghosts myself and past
- 52:50lives until I started learning more about DNA. Eighty percent of the junk DNA
- 52:55is actually our past lives and all the way back to our human history in
- 53:00our beginnings. And then ghosts. I found out that of course, the
- 53:02Bible don't believe in Jesus didn't believe on there's a contradiction and the Racidy has
- 53:07said and so they're saying that ghosts do exist residual energy. Had one scientists
- 53:13said, well, ghosts are ets, said no, they're not ghosts,
- 53:17they're ets, So what are you going to believe? So they're all together,
- 53:22Victor, you got you got ghosts, ets, older guys, angels.
- 53:25They're all similar, and they all operate in the same manner, except
- 53:30and also you said also, Victor, and I said it to my et.
- 53:35Experiences have all been pleasant. They've been spiritual a matter of fact.
- 53:38So it's hard to tell. Is an angelic or is it extra trestle well,
- 53:44or are et extra trestle? They're all extra trestful. But these are
- 53:47the supernatural critters. The other supernatural critters is some of the monsters in the
- 53:53Bible. You know, the Leviathan and you know, so you've got Leviath.
- 54:00Then other creatures. Let me get my list out here. They mentioned,
- 54:06oh quite a few, uh Leviathan. Uh the oh, I'm trying
- 54:13to think God got my list. It's a fun but they we're gonna,
- 54:17we're gonna we run along anyway, so gonna I'm gonna have to cut all
- 54:21right, Okay, all right, But there's a list of about eight or
- 54:23nine creatures that the Bible mentions in Dephalem, Leviathan, and Lilith was also
- 54:30a creature they mentioned was was a bad angel, and so yeah, and
- 54:35Joe Joseph Field was the lady angel. And the Bible says, most Bibles
- 54:40say there are no women angels, but there are just feel just feel something
- 54:46like that that she's a lady angel. And so they talk about that.
- 54:52How could there not be a lady angel when they talk about it in the
- 54:53Bible. Absolutely. My guest is Dave Emmons, his book Angels and Spiritual
- 55:00Entities, The Alien Angel Connection. Dave, one more time, please share
- 55:04with our listeners with it. Can get your books and find out more about
- 55:07you. Google me baby. I said that earlier, but no, you
- 55:12can. You can find my books on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and Kendall,
- 55:16and there's other outlets, but those are the better ones that you can
- 55:20find me on my books and also on Hanger One Publishing, my publisher who
- 55:25has got a couple of my books, so you can find out information there.
- 55:29And and actually you can look on Facebook or YouTube rumble and find my
- 55:35shows there and you'll find out a lot about and I have guest appearances also
- 55:39that talk about et s and such. It's it's all over the internet,
- 55:45so just look me up. Dave Emmons abductions et abductions, and you'll find
- 55:51a lot of shows and things in my newspaper articles that I have in the
- 55:55in Google Dave's so great to have you back again and share all of your
- 55:59experience and wisdom. Thank you, Victor, thank you so much for having
- 56:02me here, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor
- 56:07the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.