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Pete Alonso's blast was ruled foul in a brutal loss to the Yankees · Birdland Territory

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  Speaker 1: Was the home run that was not a home run
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  Speaker 1: in the end, and has all Birdland stirred up this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in another edition Birdland Territory. Steve Maluski, Burradbrock, Tim
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  Speaker 1: Barblay says we're with you. After the Wednesday night lost
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  Speaker 1: to the Orioles, lost to the Yankees five to three,
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  Speaker 1: So now Thursday night tonight they need to win to
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  Speaker 1: avoid a sweep. So guys, there's this a lot to
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  Speaker 1: digest from this game. Pete Alonso hit the ball, looked
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  Speaker 1: like oriol fans thought it was a home run, would
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  Speaker 1: have led for to three, didn't get the call overruled
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  Speaker 1: called foul in the field, replay did not overrule, and
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  Speaker 1: then the Ools gave up two runs in the eighth
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  Speaker 1: and lost five to three. I think two things can
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  Speaker 1: be true here. They probably got a very bad call
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  Speaker 1: that was not reversed, but then they kind of handed
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees too runs to lose the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, I think it's it was obviously unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: you could kind of feel the energy of the crowd
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  Speaker 2: just kind of dissipate as soon as that ball was
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  Speaker 2: ruled foul. It was kind of just took the energy
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  Speaker 2: out of the ballpark and the orders just weren't able
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  Speaker 2: to capitalize. Unfortunately, Cam came in and just kind of
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  Speaker 2: lost control, just couldn't find the strike zone. A couple
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  Speaker 2: hit batters of walk and just kind of cano did
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  Speaker 2: his job. He got weak contact, and unfortunately they have
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  Speaker 2: two runs without really a hard hit ball the entire inning.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just unfortunate that the momentum really shifted after
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  Speaker 2: that home run was reversed or upheld i should say,
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  Speaker 2: as a foul ball. And it really is just unfortunate
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  Speaker 2: how that game. You don't know how it's gonna end.
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  Speaker 2: Like Craig Albern has said after the game, you still
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  Speaker 2: have to get the nine outs with the lead, but
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  Speaker 2: it's way different pitching in a game when you have
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  Speaker 2: the lead, as opposed in the high game. You're just
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  Speaker 2: trying to be a little bit too fine. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what I saw there in that seventh inning, just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too fine around the strike zone, and unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: gave up the lead and weren't able to capitalize on
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  Speaker 2: anything else the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think in Brad, you can correct me if
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  Speaker 3: I'm wrong, because you obviously played the game for many
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  Speaker 3: years I think momentum in sports is such a real thing.
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  Speaker 4: And Pete, when it looks like you.
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  Speaker 3: Hit the go ahead homer, and obviously Masson was showing
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  Speaker 3: that shot of the dugout, the guys are all fired up,
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  Speaker 3: and then they realize it's rule foul.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, no, no way, no way.
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  Speaker 3: And then of course the replay ended up saying that
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  Speaker 3: the call stood. It just seemed like it was a
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  Speaker 3: big momentum swing in that ball game. But Steve, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: two things can be true. And we were very optimistic
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  Speaker 3: about this offense heading into this Yankee series, and they
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  Speaker 3: don't have a hit within scoring position yet and they
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  Speaker 3: just haven't done enough offensively in this series. And then
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  Speaker 3: you combine it with the bottom of that inning where
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  Speaker 3: Brad said that the Yankees didn't hit a ball out
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  Speaker 3: of the infield and then they scored two runs that
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  Speaker 3: just you know, a kid can't happen. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what happened on the wild pitch where it looked
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  Speaker 3: like Pozo lost the ball. It was like a delayed
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  Speaker 3: reaction there where Jazz ended up taking advantage of that situation.
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  Speaker 4: But just another gut punch loss for the O's last night.
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  Speaker 1: They've lost two games in this series where they allowed
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  Speaker 1: eight runs and fifteen hits and their pitchers struck out
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  Speaker 1: twenty four Yankee batters in this series. But the oriel
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  Speaker 1: scored four runs and went over twelve with runners in
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  Speaker 1: scoring position. So we got a couple of angles. Look
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  Speaker 1: at this play here as Alonzo drives it down the line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, depending upon the look here, some can look foul,
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  Speaker 1: some can look fair. That's one look at it there,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to hit the other one here real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was the one because Massin showed the
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  Speaker 3: initial one where it looked like it was clear as
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  Speaker 3: day it was fair. Then they came back from break.
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  Speaker 3: This is the one where it looks fair. Then they
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  Speaker 3: came back from break and showed the other angle. And
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  Speaker 3: that's where I'm at, Guys, I understand. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: one of those plays where if it was ruled a
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  Speaker 3: home run, I truly believe it would have stood as
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  Speaker 3: a home run just because is their definitive evidence for
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  Speaker 3: it otherwise. And unfortunately the Orioles were on the wrong
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  Speaker 3: side of this where I don't know if there was
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  Speaker 3: definitive evidence otherwise.
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  Speaker 4: But look, I know Chris Bassett was fired up.
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  Speaker 3: We have a clip from Pete Alonzo afterwards, Jim Palmer
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  Speaker 3: hit it on the head on the broadcast. Why there
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  Speaker 3: isn't a laser, Why there isn't a camera on the
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  Speaker 3: foul pole. It's ridiculous, you know, Like why not At
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you want to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that you get the call right. And MLB does not
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  Speaker 3: have themselves in position to get the call right on
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  Speaker 3: a ball that's hit over the foul pole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and kind of like I talked about before that
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  Speaker 2: we got on here. We see Chris Basst's quote here.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's all it'll cost money.
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  Speaker 5: That's it. That's literally it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the most frustrating part for players
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  Speaker 2: is that we've they've spent so much money, and MLB
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  Speaker 2: has spent so much money on getting the ABS system right.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, that's individual pitches that really aren't
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  Speaker 2: gonna cost you a game here there, Maybe it'll cost
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  Speaker 2: you that that. I mean, how many times this year
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  Speaker 2: we've seen where base is loaded through to count, they
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  Speaker 2: go to ABS and it overturns a call that like
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  Speaker 2: wins you or loses you a game. The home runs
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  Speaker 2: are runs. Those are definitive runs, either fair or foul.
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  Speaker 2: And I just feel like in twenty twenty six, just
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  Speaker 2: kind of repeating what those guys said, you can't have this,
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  Speaker 2: it can't be wrong. Like you watch the NFL, we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about first downs, touchdowns, everything of a review.
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  Speaker 2: They have lasers, they have all the technology, They have
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  Speaker 2: cameras that show you everything because points matter, and in baseball,
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  Speaker 2: runs are what win you and lose you games. And
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like in today's day and gay day
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  Speaker 2: and age in twenty twenty six, you just can't get
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  Speaker 2: it wrong. It can't be wrong in my opinion, Like
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  Speaker 2: they have to know definitively fair or foul, and it
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  Speaker 2: can't be from camera, and it can't be from the
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  Speaker 2: umpire standing three hundred and fifty feet away trying to determine.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said too, all these stadiums, every single
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  Speaker 2: foul pole is completely different, So you have different heights,
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  Speaker 2: different angles, different widths of the foul pole.
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  Speaker 5: And it just it's I feel like we've seen so
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  Speaker 5: many more balls.
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  Speaker 2: Guys hit the ball so much further now because of
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  Speaker 2: the launch angles and everything that every single one that's
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  Speaker 2: down the line is over the foul pole. So unless
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  Speaker 2: you have a camera that's definitively down the line, you're
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  Speaker 2: just never gonna be able to get it one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent right. And I just feel like in today's day
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  Speaker 2: and age, they just have to get it right one
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  Speaker 2: way or another. They just have to figure this out
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  Speaker 2: because it can win or lose your games. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: at this point it could cost some of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: This you don't know how the game is going to finish.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't know if this one game could be
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  Speaker 2: the definitive between making or not making the playoffs. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what frustrates the players more than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did go in to give up the
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  Speaker 1: game sort of as camp Sanders really struggled in the eighth.
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  Speaker 1: But as Brad said, maybe it plays that differently if
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  Speaker 1: you have a four to three lead, there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: different mindset there. And now you have this tech analogy
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  Speaker 1: that we can see the ball touch the box by
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth of an inch he called a strike, So why
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  Speaker 1: can't something happen with the foul pole graphically? Electronically you
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  Speaker 1: just raise it up and you and you have where
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  Speaker 1: the ball passed, just like with the strike zone, Does
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  Speaker 1: it touch it or not? Yeah, And they don't even
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  Speaker 1: have that in the NFL, t him, do they for
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  Speaker 1: the uprights?
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  Speaker 4: No, they don't.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where it kind of goes back to the
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  Speaker 3: quote that you just flashed up there, Steve from Bassett,
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  Speaker 3: and he's.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent right.
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  Speaker 3: Look, NFL especially because they make more money than all
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  Speaker 3: these leagues combined. But it's not like MLB. You know,
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  Speaker 3: these teams are eating ramen. You know, they do pretty
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  Speaker 3: well themselves. Where you know, I was telling you guys
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  Speaker 3: before the show twenty twenty five, the home run derby
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  Speaker 3: one of the tiebreakers. It was a furthest hit home
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  Speaker 3: run and cal Raley he had the furthest hit and
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  Speaker 3: he beat out Brent Rooker by a tenth of a foot.
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  Speaker 3: We think of all the stack Cast data that we have,
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  Speaker 3: like there's more stats in MLB than any other sport,
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  Speaker 3: and stack Cast can dive it like they have the technologies.
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  Speaker 3: See they have it, Brad like where it's just do
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  Speaker 3: you want to spend the money to do it in
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  Speaker 3: all thirty of these ballparks and it needs to happen.
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  Speaker 3: It just seems like such a no brainer. And look
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  Speaker 3: even the NFL. It's not like this is an MLB problem.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL just started the laser first down this past year.
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  Speaker 3: They were doing the chain Gang in twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 3: like it was nineteen seventy two. So they absolutely have
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  Speaker 3: the money. MLB absolutely has the money to do this
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  Speaker 3: in all thirty ballparks. It's just they're choosing not to.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 1: After the game, Pete Alonzo had some comments.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean we have hawkeye.
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  Speaker 6: I think a simple fix is like football, you have
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  Speaker 6: the pylon camera like with the plane where it shoots
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  Speaker 6: right across the goal line. And I feel like for us,
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  Speaker 6: so we could easily have a laser or a camera
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  Speaker 6: that shoots straight up.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, for me, I'm not the only one.
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  Speaker 6: It happens all the time to a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 6: throughout the course of the year.
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  Speaker 7: It happens a lot during the season.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously, this is a big game and division, so obviously
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  Speaker 6: this one's gonna be a little bit more amplified. But
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  Speaker 6: this happens quite a few times throughout the season, more
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  Speaker 6: than you would think. And I think having a camera
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  Speaker 6: or laser shooting straight up, I mean we have all
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  Speaker 6: the technology, analytics, uh in the in whatever in funds.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, this is a I don't I don't see
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  Speaker 7: why we can't do it.
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  Speaker 6: But the reason why I've told it we can't do
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  Speaker 6: it is because every ballpark is different, and that is.
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  Speaker 7: Every ballpark is unique.
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  Speaker 6: It's not the same dimensions everywhere. So that's that's my
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  Speaker 6: understanding of it. Obviously, it sucks for us.
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  Speaker 7: It sucks. Yeah, it sucks, but it is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: And the umpire umpire, and then the umpire made the
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  Speaker 6: call in the field, and and the UH in the
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  Speaker 6: review room like stood stood with that call. And that's
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  Speaker 6: that's what we have to live with and move on.
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  Speaker 6: And we have to as a team and individually bear
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  Speaker 6: down and and respond respond University.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I see happening in these negotiations. Add
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  Speaker 1: this to the list. Now they're going to come up
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  Speaker 1: with more money between both sides to fix this, and
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  Speaker 1: next year it'll be fixed, and it'll be called because
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  Speaker 1: of the Alonzo game. That's what pay on national TV,
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  Speaker 1: they'll go, well, here we can see tonight fall ahead
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  Speaker 1: it thanks to the Alonzo game, we now have this
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  Speaker 1: technology to show us that was a home run. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I just too late for the Orioles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I just think like going back to
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  Speaker 2: the ABS, I think it's just gone. They've gone so
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  Speaker 2: far with the technology and the replays and everything that
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  Speaker 2: you just can't get anything wrong.
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  Speaker 5: And that's just where I feel like it's at. It's
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  Speaker 5: just we've gone so.
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  Speaker 2: Far to now, like Steve said, you're within the one
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  Speaker 2: tenth of an inch you missed the strikes on and
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  Speaker 2: they can zoom in and show you how close. If
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  Speaker 2: you can get that close on that, you just can't
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  Speaker 2: get fair and foul wrong. I mean, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: just going to be technology across the game. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna end up being you know, it will still
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  Speaker 2: be umpires, but I think everything will just go back
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  Speaker 2: to we have the technology. It makes no sense that
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  Speaker 2: we have everything right except for phill in the blank.
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  Speaker 2: And I just feel like it's going to be across
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  Speaker 2: the board. You just have to get it right when
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  Speaker 2: the time applies.
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  Speaker 3: Think of it this way, Steve, You've been covering MLB
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  Speaker 3: for a long time and they were so late to
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  Speaker 3: the party. When it came to instant replay. It was taboo.
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  Speaker 3: I think what was the first year where they could
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  Speaker 3: review home runs your foulaw like we saw last night.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, Brad, how long were you in the
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  Speaker 3: league before challenges And obviously ABS just started like they've
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  Speaker 3: been so late to the party here where now of late,
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  Speaker 3: you give them credit, they're leaning into it, but this
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  Speaker 3: is just another area like that. This is a no
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  Speaker 3: brainer area where they can absolutely improve. And Steve, I
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  Speaker 3: think you make a great point. This is absolutely going
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  Speaker 3: to be a part of the CBA and aotiations moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: A lot more to talk about. The offense didn't show
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  Speaker 1: up this series. We'll get into that. The Oils fall
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  Speaker 1: back in the wild card, Samuel, but Siowa's back. Oh
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we saw him in the clubhouse yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and we're all like hey, lookers here. Then he was activated.
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  Speaker 1: Luis de Leon could be coming to the major leagues
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  Speaker 1: in a relief role. How about that news? And Alex Hoppy,
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  Speaker 1: I want to touch on that outing last night. Nine
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  Speaker 1: pitches ninety nine plus he looked good in the ninth.
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  Speaker 1: Birdland Territory and so the offense not getting it done
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  Speaker 1: in this series. Oh for twelve runners in scoring position,
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  Speaker 1: and they had been rolling fifty one runs in eight games,
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  Speaker 1: three twenty three runs in scoring position. Yankee show up
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  Speaker 1: and the O's offense goes in the dumper. And here's
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  Speaker 1: what it's led to two and seven this year against
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees. And here's the one that's troubling to me,
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  Speaker 1: three and fifteen since June twenty one, twenty twenty five.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: It's Appo off Tampa. They have controlled it against Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: They can beat the Rays. They don't seem to intimidate
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  Speaker 1: the Ools in any way, shape or form. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying the Yankees intimidate the Oriols, but right now
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  Speaker 1: that just feels like they'll make the play to win
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  Speaker 1: in the Orioles will not make the play to win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's I've kind of talked about this,
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  Speaker 2: but especially in division teams, there's always seems to be
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  Speaker 2: those one or two teams that, regardless of record, you.
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  Speaker 5: Just feel comfortable with, you feel like the matchups work out.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately for the Orioles, the Yankees the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years just kind of seem like that team that
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  Speaker 2: they just can't get over the hump with and they
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  Speaker 2: the matchups don't don't really work well for the Oriols,
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  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they just can't figure out the
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  Speaker 2: pitching that they obviously are one of the better pitching
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  Speaker 2: staffs in all baseball, but the Orils just seem to
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  Speaker 2: struggle against this pitching staff.
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  Speaker 5: And even in this series where they were.
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  Speaker 2: Throwing Rodin who only was able to go four innings,
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  Speaker 2: and then yesterday they kind of had a starter that
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  Speaker 2: they didn't even want to start anymore. He was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be out of rotation, and he does a really good
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  Speaker 2: job and gets to the bullpen, and we're kind of
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  Speaker 2: talking about with that home run also with Pete, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of rearranges the way they were able to use
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  Speaker 2: their bullpen. When you get the Lee five thirty as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to being down, now you're throwing your top relievers
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  Speaker 2: and those guys have done a great job all year.
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  Speaker 2: When you get Bednar there in the ninth, it just
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  Speaker 2: becomes a really difficult game to win. And they just
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  Speaker 2: have had the Oriols numbers this year, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: closer games in that first series that we saw in
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  Speaker 2: the Bronx, but it's just they're unable to get over
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  Speaker 2: the hump against this team for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 4: And what's a shame, Steve.
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  Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four of
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  Speaker 3: the Orioles have winning records against the Yankees, and of
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  Speaker 3: course it's gone in the wrong direction since that point.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just been a frustrating series, guys, because
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  Speaker 3: we know this Yankees offense, especially since Judge has gone down.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: He's been out since the beginning of June.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: This Yankees offense dead last in batting average on base
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: there were twenty eighth and runs scored heading into this series,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: and the Orioles pitching is held up their end of
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: the bargain for the most part. That you're zero for
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: twelve with runners in scoring position, and Pete's still been fantastic,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: you know, but the offense just it hasn't done nearly
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: enough in this series. They haven't done enough to win
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: these ball games. And unfortunately, I feel like a you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: beating a dead horse here. It's the three steps forward,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: three steps back, the three game winning streak, and then
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: you follow it up with a three game losing streak.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: So you got to turn it around. And it starts
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: tonight and it's going to be a tough task going
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: up against Garrett Cole.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Very tough with crowdish Bradish on the mound for Baltimore.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: So hopefully he pitches well and holds his own against Coal.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: The Yankees pitching is so good, there's bullpen arms. Everyone
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they bring in seems like they have a one fifty
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: ra they have a putaway pitch. It's like, look at
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that guy's change up. Oh, I never heard of the guy.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how the Yankees did this, but
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: they did, and so credit to them. I mean, Blackburn
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: was kind of a mediocre starter for the Athletics. Now
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he's a lockount eighth inning guy for the Yankees with
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: great stats. So some adjustments were made here. I guess
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Samuel Vassio is back. That was big for the Oriels.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Certainly Lenten's the lineup to put him in the middle
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and display some people down. I'm going to be interested
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: over the long haul to find out how much this
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: guy catches one and two? What is the ceiling for
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: his offense? It certainly looks like thirty homers is capable
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: for this guy. Maybe forty, I don't know. He's got
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: quite a swing. And what are your guys thoughts?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I honestly think he might do a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: little bit more dhing than catching here the rest of
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the year, just because he kept getting nicked behind the
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: plate and when he got on rolls, it always felt
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: like there was these little injuries that kind of caused
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: his offense to take a back seat because he's battling
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: through these little injuries, and I think he's not gonna
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: not catch, but I just think I think they might
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: use him a little bit more DH. I think he
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: played a pretty decent first base last night too, which
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: was nice to see and kind of get Pe off
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: his feet and let Pete DH here and there. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I think you'll see a little bit of combination between
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: first base, DH and some catch because you obviously don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: want him to not catch the rest of the year.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But Nervayas has been really doing a great job back there,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and Pozo when he's back there, he's been handling the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: pitching staff well. So I think it allows them to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: do a little bit more matchups later in the game too.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: If Samuel is playing DH or first base, you can
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: kind of pinch it for those guys when a big
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: spot comes up. So it will definitely be interesting to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: see how they use the catching core that they have
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: now moving forward the rest of the season.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: People will probably get more of an idea of how
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: much or how little Sam's gonna catch within the next
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks, because coming up on rosters expanding in September,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: obviously it's not crazy like it was in years past
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: with forty you get one position player, one pitcher. We
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: know that Blaze Alexander he's going to be back end
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: of the month beginning of September, So does he get
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that roster spot if he comes back before does he
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: possibly get one of the catcher's roster spots when the
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: rosters expand?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Do you keep three catchers? If you do?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And then obviously how's Pete's calf feeling because he doesn't
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: play first base? He since Saturday when he suffered the injury.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And I thought Sam played a heck of a first
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: base last night that split. I was in Paine just
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: watching that. The diving catch the rob Jazz was a
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: heck of a play, the diving stop on Wells's grounder
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: got up tagged first base.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I thought he was great defensively at.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: First base, and Steve he played a lot of first
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: base in the miners right, And I always heard.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Good things about him playing first.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they told us often excuse my voice to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the guys, about how he's so agile, he's so flexible,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: he moved so well for a big guy. That was
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: never more than last night. Yeah, the way he wurked
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: around the bag. I mean, he had a gold glove
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: kind of game, a great base, and so I do
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: think it's important that he catches a little for the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: offense because the offense has been so poor from the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: catchers happen and Beside went down that if you get
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: him in there catching now you've got to catch her
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: at a hitter and then these other spots you free
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: up the d h for another bat. So maybe the Orioles,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: if their offense continues to struggle, they're probably gonna need
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: him catching some.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're you're right, Steve.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I think if the offense is inconsistent, I think it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: only better with him in the lineup, and if you
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: can put him back there behind home plate, where you said,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the production from the catcher position hasn't been the greatest.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: So if you're able to put him back there and
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: he can hit.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Homers and do what he does, Yeah, I feel like
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that's what they got to do here because it's all
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: hands on deck.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: There's no trying different things out.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: It's you got to kind of go with your gut
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: or go with the numbers, and just put it out
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: there and see what happens. Because they're kind of running
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: out of games here, so there's not really too many
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: games to kind of mess with this or mess with that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Again, I think a lot of this depends on Pete's health.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: If Pete's playing first base, I think you're gonna see
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Sam behind the behind the plate. But if Pete's not
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: playing first then I think Sam is going to play
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a good amount of first base. But you're right, Steve,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: if he's catching, it just lengthens the lineup. It frees
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: up that DH spot, you know, with Pee back at
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: first base, Sam at catcher, it definitely lengthens this lineup.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I as good a job as Narbias is done
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: behind the plate. He was over at the end of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: his Boston run. He's like three for forty eight going
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: back to time with the Red Sox. I mean, just
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not going right now. He's a two hundred hitter, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in his career, but he's not showing it. Right now,
• 21:33
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  Speaker 1: So the o's got to get a gallon here. Three
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: losses by five total runs five and eight in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: last thirteen A couple losses can radically change the outlook
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  Speaker 1: member when they had a winning record since the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Now they do not with these losses. So one and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a half back in the wild card, but trailing a
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  Speaker 1: couple teams. I thought it was interesting reported last night
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that Luis Devione, we'll move to a bullpen roll at
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Triple A, pitcher from the Dominican Republic, one of their
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: top young lefties who was recently promoted to Triple A.
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  Speaker 1: He was on a real role at the end of
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• 23:13
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• 23:17
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• 23:20
  Speaker 1: is interesting. We haven't seen the Ools do this with
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: one of their pitching prospects yet, sort of target him
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: for a bullpen roll. And we know their left handed
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: relief has been a little thin, so that it all
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: kind of adds up here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, definitely, And I think I think they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: trying to find some guys that can maybe pitch some
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: high leverage spots. They're they're trying different guys. They've they've
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: used some of the same guys. Kitchridge and Garcia pretty
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: much been at the back all year, but they're really
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: trying to bridge the gap to the eighth and ninth inning,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: and I think they're going with the hot hands. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: if you can get a lefty that allows you to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: pitch high leverage in for our innings, which they haven't
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: had really all year.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Well for him, he's had spots where he was going well.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Right now he's a little rocky, little shaky, so I
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: don't know if they'd be comfortable using him. But if
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you can find a lefty that can pitch some high
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: leverage outs three to and him, you can think multiple
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: innings he could throw. That would be a huge boost
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to this bullpen because right now it's just kind of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: trying to piece it together and you're trying to find
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the hot hand and it's just some nights is gonna
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: work and some nights it's not. But right now you
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: can't really afford to have those Is it going to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: work tonight?
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Is it not?
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Kind of scenario.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So if you can get somebody that's hot, or find
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: somebody good like a lefty. Maybe he's a guy you
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: plug in there late innings and see what happens.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Brad, I think that's perfectly illustrated over these past
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: couple of nights right where Cam Sanders didn't have it
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: last night, Josh Walker, he didn't have it the night prior.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And look, both of those guys prior to those outings
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: actually have more than held their own in this stretch
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: with the o's. But you know, and you can even
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: throw Hoppy into the mix where these are kind of
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: guys that still trying to find they're footing in MLB,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: trying to get consistency in their career where it's tough,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: there's going to be some of those outings like these
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: past couple of nights where they're just trying to find
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: some dudes. And I think that's where, you know, obviously
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: bringing back Michael Farrett was big, but you know, losing
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Tyler Wells in this stretch definitely has hurt this pen.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Losing one of those guys you can really count on
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: in a high leverage situation. And I think Steve, that's
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: why you know you're trying, you know, Louise Dalleon and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and maybe he ends up getting the call up in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: September after a couple of rehab as Simons.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Heck, I'm still amazed, guys.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Felix Baltista about to begin a rehab assignment next week.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: That blows my mind.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so, we'll definitely be watching every single
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: outing by Felix as well.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Reinforcement's coming, Hopefully it's not not too late. Delli on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: big two seams, sinker a lot of ground ball, seventy
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: grade on that some scouts put on it, sixty slider,
• 26:00
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  Speaker 1: So right hander Alex Hoppy, who I keep wanting to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: call Logan O Hoppy a very similar name. Not a catcher,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: not a pitcher. I was really impressed with that night
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Inting Last Night Brad ninety nine plus one hundred plus
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: four pitches. Yeah, he's one of the top six percent
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of velocity in Major League Baseball and has a slider
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that's got some swing in this too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind watching that outing that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy has closer stuff. There's obviously some
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: pieces he's got to get together and uh to become
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a closer set up man, But there's no doubt in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: my mind swinging miss slider that he threw one last
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: night that was just nasty the same plane as his
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: fastball broke down below. I mean, Jim Palmer really said
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: whoa when he threw it as a swing and miss.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: So Jim Palmer saying that he's seen a few sliders
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and fastballs in his day, but there's not many guys
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: throwing ninety nine to one hundred and one like he is.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's just gotta find consistency in the strike
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: zone and just be confident in his stuff. There's I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: think the biggest jump guys have to make his understanding
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that your stuff plays, and I think him and Cam
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Sanders both right now are just need to understand their
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: stuff is good enough.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: They don't need to do anything extra. They just need
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: to be in the strike zone.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And I think both of these guys really could play
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: big pieces in the bullpen moving forward, especially Hoppy with
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that fastball. I mean, he just threw that one to
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Bird last night at the top of his own and
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it was in the mid before he swung. And he
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: threw one to Garret Jones also that was in the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: mid And it's just having confidence when you throw ninety
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: nine to one hundred and one. You don't need to
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: be perfect with your fastball. It's more about kind of cutting.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Was always told I was showing when I got in
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: trouble with my command. It was putting the plate in
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: three sections of three with his fastball. Just cut that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: plate in half and throw at the halfs and let
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the movement and the velocity take care of itself. And
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I think once they just get some confidence in them,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: we're going to really see them take off because they
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: have the stuff that you need to pitch at the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: big league level in those high leveraged spots. And that's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: what I see from those guys arms. In the last week,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I've seen them kind of progress in that in that direction.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with Hapi, you can't exactly teach that type of velosity.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Steve Itch just with him.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: If you can just harness the command, he could be
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: a big weapon in this pen. And look, he's going
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: to get opportunities down the stretch for sure.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Hatchets to interview on the other day. Really was how
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: said the Ools were so welcoming to them, both players
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and staff essentially said, let us know what you need, man,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: whenever you need. The coaches very hands off. They should
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: do what you do well. Any tinkering will come later.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Go go pitch man, We like your stuff. And so
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: so he's been averaging ninety eight point zero on his fastball,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and it was ninety nine point five last night with
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: four pitches one hundred plus. So it was electric stuff.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Fun to see struck out Ben Rice and Luis Garcia
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Junior I wrote it. But I'm going to have my
• 29:14
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• 29:17
  Speaker 1: hoppy and I'm gonna stop calling him logan over he
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: continues to develop as an oreole. All right, guys, you
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Oils need to get this one tonight. Bradish. If they
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: can win tonight and have a good series this weekend,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: we'll all be back on the bandwagon. And we're day
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to day on this thing or am I not right here?
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you're right. It's just gotta find the momentum
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: again and pull off.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: A number three or four game win streak and then
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: instead of having the multiple losses in a row, just
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: keep it at one and win some more and uh yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: But just like we've said on the Bandwagon, they got
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: they're right there still, and I feel like you can't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: can't give up on him until they're they're dead. You know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: there's there's no way with the way the season's been going.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: It's just such a unique season where if you're sixty
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: one and sixty six in a normal year, you aren't
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: close to just being one and a half games out
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: of the wildcards.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: But this is one of those seasons. Like I get it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It's frustrating, but it really is right in front of them.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: It is gotta beat the Yankees, Birdland, they gotta get
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: one tonight, build some momentum into the weekend, and see
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: where they stand one and a half out heading into
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the final game of the Yankee series for that final wildcard. Hey,
• 30:31
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• 30:34
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