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Retro Roots: Moving From Homelessness to Radio Staples with Ro Bailey · Story Scaling

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Storyscaling by Podcastvideos.com, where creators share the truth behind the content, the grind, and the growth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, friends and family, I am Bang of PodcastVideos.com.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have crossed 750 downloads, which is a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's mind blowing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's mind blowing, and I'm honored and I'm humbled.
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  SPEAKER_04: But today Ro, you heard my sound effect.
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  SPEAKER_04: It was working.
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  SPEAKER_04: You heard my sound effect.
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  SPEAKER_04: Wait a second, one second, one second.
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  SPEAKER_04: We got a special guest today.
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  SPEAKER_04: And and Ro, you're getting your applause, okay?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: You are and today, you know what I'm saying?
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: We in our studio, I am sitting with none other than Ro.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ro on the radio with the big old head.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ro on the radio with the big old heart.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ro, you are a, I know you don't see it like this, but you're a staple in this community.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have, as long as I've known you've been that, you'd have really kind of represented this area well.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've represented art, you've represented creativity.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm actually enthralled to have you in the studio today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't make me cry.
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  SPEAKER_01: So no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_02: We just get started, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna turn up.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so so thank you so much for joining me sincerely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, we just about to jump right into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna I'm gonna read your bio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm that this is what the streets is saying about Ro.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like this This is me in the streets.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you in the streets already.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is what we think.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it says today's guest is Roe Bailey, Army veteran, model, entrepreneur, and true curator of nostalgia.
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  SPEAKER_01: Originally making her mark through her military service, Ro has transitioned into one of Northwest Arkansas's most vibrant creative voices.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is founder of Rhett Roe by Roe Bailey, a sustainable fashion brand that merges her love for nostalgia pop culture with high energy, repurposed apparel.
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  SPEAKER_01: For Roe, clothing isn't just about what you wear, it's about the memories, the TV shows, the music, the icons that connect us, regardless of where we come from.
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  SPEAKER_01: Beyond fashion, Roe is a professional model and model coach, an artist and dedicated mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whether she's building community through leadership or mentoring the next generation of creative talent, she moves with a purpose rooted in authenticity and storytelling.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is a powerhouse and proves that you do not have to choose one lane to be successful.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: You just have to be yourself.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, Roe Bell.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who did that, but it was it was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would only correct one thing, and that would be my small business is actually called retro.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's just spelled um with capitals in it to highlight my name being Ro.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: Love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's a lot of people are like, is it retro?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's retro.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: Retro.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: But then other than that, like I'm, you know, swallowing tears.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: That was so sweet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bro, this is you.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and I feel like as creatives and as people in general, sometimes, you know, we don't often see ourselves in the same way that other people do.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so this is a let me be clear, like this is an abbreviated bio.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I could have gone on and on and on, you know what I'm saying?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm curious for you when you hear this, like what stands out to you?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the first thing that kind of catches your eye or that resonates?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, just being seen as uh someone visible in the community is is like wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is just it's just wonderful to hear.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um like I know growing up I didn't really have a lot of community um just in my neighborhood or just with the things that I was interested in.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so being able to be that without um having experienced it was is just really um amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So like just as far as community, I mean like other kind of ulti-weird black girls who like more than just hip-hop and RB, um people who are old souls who um are obsessed with clothing and music and movies that came out way before they were born.
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  SPEAKER_03: They weren't even, you know, on this earth yet.
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  SPEAKER_03: So like old souls and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to um create like a safe space for people like that.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because I'm like, I know I can't be the only one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: That is interested in those things.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's really nice to hear, and it's just like so humbling.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I can't like it's like I feel like I can't say thank you enough.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm not being grateful enough.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I have to say it in everything I do.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I just really appreciate it.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Ro take us back.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Who are you?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where'd you come from?
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like we want, we want uh story scaling exclusive, you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_01: We need we need, you know, this is the unplugged, the the behind the scenes on Roe Bailey, like yeah, where do you come from, you know, and and I can keep that as open, you know, ended as as let's be open.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: All right, come on, like give us give us uh so I moved to Northwest Arkansas in 2012.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_03: It was right after a very tough divorce, and um after my mother passed away from cancer.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_03: And those two things happened within two months of each other.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: It was a lot.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um both of them were heavy, but specifically the marriage, I would just say he had a baby and it wasn't with me.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_03: So that's that was the end of that.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I was going through it, you know what I mean, like emotionally.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know, my son was three at the time.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_03: And my best friend who lives here in Northwest, Arkansas, her name is Tanisha Gist.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to the bestie.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to the bestie.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um I called her like best friends do, just crying and just like, you know, I all these things are happening, and I'm just like, I don't know if I could, I don't know how much more I of this I can take.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm tired of the, you know, giving strongest battles.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like I get it, but like that doesn't help me right now.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like I need something to help me.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_03: And she was like, Well, why don't you just move here?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I can't just uproot my life and take my three-year-old son and just move to a place that I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: And what she said after that was profound.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: She said, You can't heal in the same place that made you sick.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_03: And that was just like wow.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: I I was I was like dead silent on the phone.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I said, You're right.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_03: And she said, check this out everybody in your hometown are gonna still be doing the exact same thing they were doing when you left.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: So let's just say Arkansas doesn't work out for you.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: You can always go back.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: There's no, there's nothing keeping you here.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, so you know, just try it.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_03: And if you don't like it, you can go back.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, you know what?
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_03: You're absolutely right.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I took my 98, 1998 Volkswagen Beetle, um, which was trash, by the way.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a it was a death trap, uh, but it was paid for.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that part.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: I got the title, um, and my three-year-old son and one big old bag of clothes, and I left.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_03: I I left.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: I came to Arkansas and um I slept uh on my best friend's couch.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I was I was homeless.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then I started working at Dillard's uh in uh Fayetteville, which I think is where I first initially met you.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: A long time ago.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: Long time ago.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then uh we did an event with a local radio station or with uh cumulus broadcasting.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_03: And Anita Cowen was the promotions manager at the time, and she was like, Have you ever thought about like trying radio?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: My mom was a radio host, my uh uncle was a radio host, and I was like, Well, yeah, but like I didn't go to school for that.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't I was being honest, but I was also like just scared.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm not the type of person that's gonna like fake it till you make it, like, because that'll come back to get you.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I was just like, I have no experience.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: And she was like, like that can be taught.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're right, you're confident, you're funny, you know, let's let's have you voice tracking for a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I did, and I fell in love with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they provided me with so many opportunities, like with radio sales, with just being on the air and being heard, you know what I mean?
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: And um, it just progressively got better from from there.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_03: I was able to afford a one-bedroom apartment for me and my son.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we did sleep on a futon, and that's all we had.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: We had a futon, we had a one of those old school TVs with the fatbacks, you know what I mean?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: It was old then.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: It was old in 2012.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: So and that's all I had.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: And then eventually I, you know, saved up some more money and I got another job.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like I had like two jobs at the time, um, and got a two-bedroom apartment and was able to afford beds and able to afford and afford like a dependable vehicle for me and my child.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like it just progressively got better.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: And like as I took that chance, I was like, you know what?
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I could really do this.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and when I was younger, radio was so important.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like the the DJs, the host, I didn't have any connection to the outside world.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we didn't have like internet back then.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so I'm telling my age right now.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't have like, you know, um Instagram and stuff back then.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like the way we learned about hip-hop current news or pop culture was through the radio.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: And um, we had a black radio station in Tennessee, um, 94.3, and it was always fuzzy.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like I could never hear it, but I would do whatever I could to just listen to it, to hear it, to hear like Tom joiner in the morning.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought this would be so cool.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like these people's voices are heard like around America.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: That would be so cool.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's giving them chills, bro.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Cause like they don't know about the static.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: They don't know about the kids don't know when you're in that other city.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh, uh.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: With uh yeah, antenna.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: You cross the county line and it's exactly you hear your song, you know what I'm saying?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Bye, baby, and I they don't know about that, you know what I'm saying?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's yeah, like recording songs off of the radio, like pressing play and record.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like that was that was my connection to the outside world, and I love music.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: I will, I I can't live without it.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: I could live without TV, I could live without, I can never live without music.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Music connects us, like that.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_03: We may have different views, we may grew up differently, we may have different, even political views, but everybody knows once those violins start hitting and it's taking over for the 99 and 2000s, it's a wrap.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter how old you are.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: Music to me is the closest thing to world pieces we will ever get.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: Ever get.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: There's a song, there's a song that could that could definitely unite people.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like we, I may not think that you should have certain things on your car, but like we are both gonna jam out to Montel Jordan.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: This is how we do it.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_03: Do you see what I'm saying?
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_03: And just for that, for those four minutes of that song, we're on the same page.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_03: We don't, we may not make the same money.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we may not do this, but we're on the same page.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like we can listen to the same song.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: I might not even talk to you outside of this concert.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: But in the concert, yes, we family.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: We're in sync, we're singing the same lyrics together without even knowing the person next to you.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that's a connection that nothing else could could give you.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nothing else.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: So just being able to go back to like little Rochelle, like listening to the radio and like sitting like right in front of a boom box as my entertainment.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: No TV, no nothing.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like listening to the voices, listening to the news, listening to the next block of songs.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and being able to do that as an adult, I fulfilled my like childhood dream.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm uh I'm not I'm gonna be real with you.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Radio, if you're trying to get rich, that's probably not the yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: But there's other ways.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_03: There's other ways.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_03: They can open doors for other things, opportunities, and another networking.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: So that's how I got into radio.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: But um, as far as modeling, um, I never wanted to model.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: This is crazy.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: At first, I grew up with uh three brothers and no sisters, not a lot of feminine energy in my home.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I was I was just pretty much a tomboy.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then my dad and my mom were like, you know, maybe you should consider modeling.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I'm not wearing a dress.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: They planted the sea.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like, I'm not wearing a dress, I'm not wearing makeup.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: And then I did my first fashion show when I was 12, and it was for JCPenney, and they gave me a check afterwards, and I was like, you know what?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_03: I might could when you were 12?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I might could, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: It definitely um opened my you know interest in it.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but after that, just like it's not as easy as a road as people think it is.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if you have low self-esteem, modeling is not free.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: It is not for you.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: They will tell you things like um uh I was told I couldn't be a model because I have an overbite.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I was told that my look leaves too much to the imagination.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, sometimes when people are casting for things, they want a black woman, like dark skin, short hair, certain features.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: And if you don't fit their perspective of a black woman, then you don't get accepted.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: So you have to get used to the rejection.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: But after you get past that, it's so rewarding to um be in that space with those creatives.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: And I just I just use it as a way to get supplemental income, to meet people, to network, and a form of self-expression too.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's some photo shoots that um were very personal to me that I that I decided to do.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like I did a um cosplay one with uh Mystique from X-Men, the old school Mystique.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: And for me that was big because I always watched X-Men.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: I always wanted to dress up, but my family didn't have a lot of money for me to get Halloween costumes.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: So I never dressed up for Halloween as a kid, but as an adult, I got adult money.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm going back and getting through.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm getting those years back.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so but yeah, that's and the ability to help other people with modeling is something that I love because I didn't have any guidance.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like there were so many weirdos that you gotta watch out for as a model, male or female, or however you identify.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I didn't have any guidance.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't have people to be like, hey, you don't have to take everything that's given to you, or this is a little shifty.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you shouldn't do a photo shoot here or with this person.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: So being able to teach and be a model mentor is so like fulfilling to me.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: I love preparing people who want to model for the best.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love encouraging people because I didn't get a lot of encouragement.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: It was like, well, you can do this, well, watch out for this.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: And it was usually by people who weren't even modeling.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting how that happens.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: People love to tell you what you can and can't do uh when they're not doing what you're doing.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: So um, but yeah, that's pretty much that's pretty much me.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like in a nutshell, I guess.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's how I got to Northwest, Arkansas.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: So R we finna dive deep.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I love it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we finna dive deep.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm over here like fighting emotions when you're talking, I'm like, Daddy.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it's like, you know, I think there's something that we as people really um resonate with, and it's this idea of like an underdog story.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Or like, you know what I mean?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Even even me, a very central theme in my music is like trial and overcoming whatever your obstacle is.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: For some people, is, you know, I was homeless.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't even really share this, but there was a stint in my life where like I have a crib to call mine, you know what I'm saying?
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm couch surfing and I'm trying to figure, you know what I mean?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: And and and no matter what your low point is, like there is a level of overcoming.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so as you're speaking, I'm like, man, you know, you bet on yourself.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: You went through the challenges, you came up.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Big thing in my family, we say, stay down till you come up.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so my mom, my mama called me, like, bruh, you stand down until you come up, you know.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, my, you know, I'm saying this.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: So the same thing.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we see that, you know, reflected in your story.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then you talked about this identity piece that's like, man, if you don't, if you don't have confidence in yourself, bro, it's gonna eat you alive.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: It will.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: And we and we see that across any field that you in.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you could be an athlete.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: A coach will tell you in a heartbeat, like, you're not a good player.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't got self-confidence, you're cooked.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: Or like you're not a good artist, or you know what I mean?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to kind of highlight that, you know.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah how has that experience, especially, you know, when we live in such uh a superficial transactional world, you know, I think about this, I'm not gonna get on the soapbox because this is the road show.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: But like, you know, one of the biggest threats to the institution was was self-love.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because you because it ain't no money in self-love.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: There's no money in that.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: You can't sell me no, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you're praying on someone's insecurities?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, you can't you can't trick me.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, but you know, so and if if you want to take it deeper, like even in a in a black space, like Neo Soul, like this this black empowerment music, it was one of the biggest threats to people because it's like NDR telling y'all, I'm not my hair.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I mean?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's always temptation to uh shrink, and it's always temptation to not love yourself.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: And absolutely you know what I mean?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: So for you in your journey when you came face to face with people, like you said, that had you questioning your self-esteem or look, like how did you build, for lack of better words, I'm gonna say thick skin, but but even deeper than that, like a confidence in yourself to where you say, like, no, I'm not defined by this person's exact perspective.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how did you do that?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: And how do we do that?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, muscle memory is number one.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: So the first time that you experienced like rejection, it is so painful.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: It is like, oh my gosh, like I need to rethink what I'm doing.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: My first rejection, or one of my first rejections, was with America's next top model.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't make an American America's next top model in 2004 or something.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was devastated.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: I was crying on the bed and being dramatic and saying, like, I would never be another model or whatever, model again, whatever.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: Second rejection came.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: It was like, I mean, okay, third, fourth, fifth, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it just becomes muscle memory.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you know what it feels like, and you know that you can overcome it because there's gonna be another opportunity.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I also um have this motto that no doesn't always mean no.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: It just means like not right now.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like, just because somebody told you no for this opportunity today, it doesn't mean that you're never gonna get this opportunity to do it ever again.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: And that was my problem.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: I was telling myself a story that like this is the only chance that I'm gonna get to be a model.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that just wasn't realistic.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: So just be you gotta be realistic with yourself and be like, is this like the is this really the end all be all, or am I just like, you know, being dramatic and being accountable for that?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's also, and this is easier said than done, but don't take it personal.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I used to take it personally and think that when I experienced rejection with modeling, that I wasn't beautiful or I wasn't attractive, or I was too, I wasn't skinny enough.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't, well, not tall enough.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: I was I was pretty tall.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but that's a story that you're telling yourself.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't mean it's true.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Every thought that you think, it doesn't, just because you think it doesn't mean it's true.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: It just means that that's the thought that happened.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: So you have to just observe it and let it pass.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: Observe and don't absorb.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: I absorb everything.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: Everything.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: And that was that was my problem.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Observe, don't absorb.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was my problem.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: I could I could take that back to anything in life.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: Observe, don't absorb.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like if someone's telling you their problems, you start to, you know, you have a change in energy because you care about that person and you want to make sure that they're okay and you feel the need to give advice or help them.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's not always what they need.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes they just need somebody to listen.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: And you have to observe and not absorb.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: So I I would just I would say that observe, don't absorb.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: No doesn't always mean no, it just means like not right now.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: And that's that's what really, really helped me.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, I love that.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: How do you find your voice?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you I think it's super dope and I resonate with a lot of your story because you know, people who know me closely, this is still news to a lot of people, especially people who got introduced to me later in life.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: But the one thing I said I would never do was be an entertainer.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: I said, like, I would never do it.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Never.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I was I was a kid who I didn't know what I wanted to do.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I used to almost, you know, have a conflict with kids who knew in in third grade that you wanted to be a fireman.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Or like you knew, like, I'm like, bruh, we ate.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know you want to be a doc.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know that.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so like I never really had this super clear, you know, vision of myself, but in a very kind of you know, turn of events.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I started with Writing literally like narratives.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: My teacher used to have us write these stories every day.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so we would write them.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then one day she comes and she's like, you know, I want to publish your writings.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in the third grade.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so it kind of like stuck with me.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wait, you got a lot of kids.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's 30 of us.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, well, I wonder why you want to publish mine.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: But that's what let me know, like, oh, I'm good at this.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so from writing, which is why mentorship is so important, because from writing it led to poetry.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then poetry is just rap.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I started writing songs, right?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing, you know.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: So literally, that was the progress, it went through a natural progression of like, okay, stories to poems to songs.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: And when I got really into it, I became obsessive and started figuring out like who do I like, who, oh, I really admire this artist.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Wait a second.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen how fame can be so unforgiving and how it could be really harsh.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so I kid you not, at like 12 years old, I had denounced anything entertainment.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I will never take the path that this person took.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: I would never, because if I can choose between my sanctity and my sanctuary and my peace, and like, bruh, I'm talking like 13.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how I was on that time then, but I just I knew like this ain't for me.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean kind of how you say old soul.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so it got to a point of contention, like even with family, because they like, bruh, you getting, you're supposed to get us out the trenches.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is your gift, bruh.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you mean what you mean?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: You don't want to write like your stuff actually good.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, now you see memes and stuff where it's like people listening to their, you know, relative music and they hear it, like, man, we never getting out the hood.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, but they but they like, bruh, your stuff actually.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so, anyways, long story shorter, I got to a point with just a lot of encouragement, mentorship to like realize that it's not really my gift to hoard, but it's mine to steward and to share and to surrender and be like, okay, you know what I mean?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I said I never do it.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, when I hear you and I hear your your path, you know, and your journey, and you saying, like, yeah, I I never thought I would be modeling, you know what I mean?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: And and now that's what you're doing, and you're helping other people is like, it's so impactful, and it makes me curious, even when it comes to the radio stuff.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea your mom was in radio.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: It makes sense.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I had no idea your uncle, you know, but it makes sense.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so you come from this background and you come from a melting pot of influences and stewardship.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious, like, how did you find Rose's voice?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: How did you know this is how you, like you said, you know, you are funny, but you are intentional and serious and you are lighthearted.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how did you find who you are and how you want to be represented in this space?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I've paid attention to the way I feel when I hear other people.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like when I listen to the radio, how do I feel when I hear like Tom Joyner?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_03: Or how do I feel when I hear Angela, you know, doing interviews?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: And if I if the feeling is positive, then I take inventory of that and I say, I want to make other people feel this way.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then paying attention to the things that don't give me, you know, good feelings, um, whether that's, you know, red pill content or or things like that.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I people don't remember what you said, but they remember how you made them feel.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: And so I I want to, I want people to feel um safe when they listen to me or when they talk to me.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: I want people to feel like they're not being judged.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I want people to smile like there's so much going on in the world always.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh I need a true, I need a fax.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so I don't want to, I don't want to add to the clutter, you know.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to add to the clutter of talking about what everybody else is talking about.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: I want something I want something that's gonna entertain you or make you smile or give you that little bit of piece of joy that you may not have gotten otherwise, listening to, you know, someone else or or or somebody else.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like I found my voice by taking inventory from both sides, from the negative and the and the positive.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I found my voice by um doing things that scare me, uh, which I was totally against.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like if it scares me to me, that's like your body saying, like, hey, this is not safe and you don't need to do that.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: But sometimes it's just your body saying that you're a punk.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's real.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's real.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: So um I had to learn the difference between the two.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: And um, my body was telling me that I was a punk.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and so uh asking myself questions, like, well, what's the worst that can happen?
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like you go, you go do this radio thing and you suck at it, and then you know, people mentor you and you get better, like, is that what's that the worst that's gonna happen?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like just kind of taking inventory.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: And so once I started doing that, it just became like a lot easier.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I just kept doing it.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: And the more positive reinforcement you get, like if people say, I heard you on the radio, or if you are at an event and someone says, like, you know, that they heard you or they saw you, or that you inspire them, it just you have no choice but to keep going.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like, like you said, like when you inspire people with with your music and the way you connect with your with the people that are in the audience, like you have a confidence about you, you know how to um not stay in one place on the stage, you know how to get the crowd involved and um make them participate, and they remember those experiences.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: They're not gonna remember one guy standing there wrap in one spot and yelling and saying, You already know who this is.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we don't know who this is.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like, actually, we don't, but like you know how to move around, you know how to get the crowd engaged, and so they remember you.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: You have a really good crowd presence.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so just things like that, like taking inventory of like how people respond to you, knowing how to read the room, knowing how to knowing when's the best timing, maybe like to not say things or to say things.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's that's really what's it for me.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you got a unique way of connecting with people, I think, across different mediums.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: I've watched your interviews, I've seen you host events, I've sat across, you know, uh a microphone from you.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've I've talked to you off camera when the cameras ain't there, and there's a consistency, you know what I mean?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: And it's really unique because now the thing that we desire most, I feel like is being put on display in levels that we've never seen it, right?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: We've always needed human connection.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: We've always needed to be validated and our experience be validated.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: But now, because there's so much superficial connection and because there's so much fake validation, the desire for real validation is at an all-time high.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so just by sitting across the table from somebody and like you looking them in their eye, I mean, I've seen you do that across the board, you know what I mean?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so you bring a level of groundedness and authenticity.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious, like, where does that come from?
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: You kind of spoke to it, you know what I'm saying, a little bit, but but you're what I'm saying is you're a human being.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like you, and you're a real, you know, authentic, genuine human.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: Where does that come from?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because it comes off even online.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, some people pop in online and they make you feel like that, but they really can't have a conversation with you.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or there it's the other extreme.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: People who are like this, they really are.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it don't come off like that when they you know what I mean.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: But but you found a way to navigate each space and show up as yourself.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious, like, where does where does that grounded this come from?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I would say the military.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for your service.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, thank you for your service, bro.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for your service.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the military, I went through so many things uh in basic training that I had no choice but to be comfortable being myself.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um the uh the physical demands were extreme.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: The um the leadership was extreme.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: And so it it made me feel it broke down some some walls.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: So like when you when you're kind of scared, you put up a wall.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like you tense up, right?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're kind of cold and frozen.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then once that wall is is broken down by um, you know, doing 30 push-ups or like, you know, waking up at four in the morning, like then you're free to do whatever because it's just like I've I've already accomplished more, because they say the military has accomplished more by 6 a.m.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: than most people have accomplished all day.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: So with that, keeping that military mindset, it's like, listen, I've already been through this, like divorce, yeah, like mom dying, like being homeless, like literally nothing you can say, or nothing I could do that's a mistake or to look like I don't have my stuff together is going to break me.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: You see what I'm saying?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like those the things that you went through, um, because everybody has gone through something.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody has a story, like a traumatic event or something.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes people try to forget that so that they can heal or so they can function because they don't want to be reminded of bad things.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: I use those bad things as fuel um to be like, girl, like you made it through a divorce.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: So you can't like you can't be on the radio.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like just again, it kind of goes back to like taking inventory.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, even though you have been through some things that are traumatic and you may not want to bring those up, those are your like battle scars, like those are things that you have overcome and you're still here.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: So nothing that happens after that is gonna break you because you already you already been through some things.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I I would encourage people to like pull from that instead of like thinking that they have to have external validation.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think that sometimes people reach a plateau or a block because they're not getting that external validation that they've been getting.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like maybe they're maybe it slows up, maybe you're not getting as much online presence, maybe people aren't reaching to you, uh reaching out to you to do interviews as much as they used to five years ago or whatever.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's not important.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: What's important is that you made it through a car accident.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_03: So you made it through a car accident.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: You can't make it through like people not reaching out to you for you see what I'm saying for opportunities.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like pull from that, use that.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it's that's to me, that's what it's for.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's not, it's not there to remind you that you went through something really, really horrible.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's to remind you that you went through something horrible and you came out on.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you battle test it.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_03: So this, so everything else is nothing.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like training.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: It it it makes you it makes you have a hard shell.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Robe Bailey, ladies and gentlemen.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're not done yet.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: We're not done yet.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you said something, man, it was profound.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it led me to another thought.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Robe, you are speaking to doing the hard thing.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the second time that I've heard this today.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: I had a buddy, the second time I had a buddy of mine say, like, he thinks he was talking about marriage.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he was saying, like, man, I thought marriage was this.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was neutral, and I thought it was, you know, just kind of showing up.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I did not lean into the friction.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: If I felt any other friction, I'm I'm out, I'm going the other, you know what I mean?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then he talked about how now he views it so different because almost anything that's causing you a point of friction is an opportunity.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: Not almost.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that's causing you a point of friction or contention is an opportunity to grow, absolutely, to evolve.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: And so I hear you say it basically, do the hard thing.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and and and you're right.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, you know, it's our body that's trying to keep us safe.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: And other times it's your body saying, like, man, you got some coward in you.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, you just scared, bro.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: And that's okay.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: But you can do it scared.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: And like, you know what else I learned?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: Ready is not a feeling.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: Ready is an action.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a choice.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'm always like, before that, I was like, Well, I don't know if I'm ready, right?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know if I'm ready to do this.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I'm ready to start a business.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I'm ready to do that.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Say that one more time, bro.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because the streets won this.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: Ready is not a feeling.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: Ready is an action.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: Ready is an action.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: So you're not gonna ever feel ready.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: There's always gonna be never.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: There's gonna be something pop up like, oh, well, this happened, so I can't do this.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's an action.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's not it's not a feeling.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: Let me chill right there.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, like I learned that late in life, but um, I did learn it.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: And accountability.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: This is a hard one.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let's talk about it.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because this and nobody like this, hey, turn y'all sound on.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: Turn us up.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody's grown until it's time to take accountability.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I have to take accountability for things that I ran away from.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so for example, my marriage, just because my marriage ended the way that it did, it doesn't mean that I didn't do anything wrong in the marriage and that there's nothing I can improve on.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like I think a lot of times we get caught up in wanting to play the victim and um like all kind of this woe as me.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and it and it's cool, your feelings are valid.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm not gonna invalidate anybody's feelings.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: But after you do that, there is some time to again take inventory of yourself, of your feelings.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe some things that you you could have changed.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of things I could have changed in my marriage.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and taking accountability for that is part of the healing process.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_03: You're you're never ever, and this is a hill I will die on.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: You will never ever heal or get to where you're supposed to get if you can't simply take accountability for your actions.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: People feel like directness is a it's it's a threat, right?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like if I have an issue and I come to you about it, like and you get like defensive and you get you know irritable, like if I come to you the right way, because I do need to come to you the right way, um, then nothing can get solved.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have to take accountability and be like, what can I, what can I change about this situation?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like, for example, let's say you're in high school and you have like a you know ketchup stain from lunch on your shirt.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: You already know it's there.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: So when everybody says, hey, you got a ketchup stain on your shirt, the second person, the third person, you get annoyed because you already know that.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: But it's a good kind of annoying because you already know.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine how it feels when if you don't know, you're embarrassed, right?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: So take that same concept with anything.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like no one in modeling can tell me, like, oh, you gotta overbite.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I I'm aware type of overbite, but I'm still getting bookings.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: You see what I'm saying?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like when you're aware of the things, like even your flaws, you can be great, but you can have flaws as well.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: When you're aware of it, when somebody else points it out, you're like, okay.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: And you can still go on.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: But if you don't know about it, if someone tells you for the first time, it's like like someone telling me for the first time, you have an overbite, and I'm like, oh wow, like I wasn't, you know what I mean?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're embarrassed, you're hurt, like you wonder how how who else saw it and didn't say anything.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: But once you embrace it, you're just like, oh yeah, yeah, I definitely do.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, is there gonna be something else after that?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why did you feel the need to point that out?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: So it's really about like accountability.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: It is so important.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I like this.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: I like this because here's the thing, you know, when you say something, it it hey, it's all really good information and it's all connecting, and you do a good job of taking these more complex, you know, thoughts and making them digestible, which I think is really, really important for us.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about putting yourself out there.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, on the case.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's so hard.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's all right, no, take it away.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: Putting yourself out there.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: That was your first response.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, it's explain.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's hard because when you are either a recovering people pleaser or someone who is concerned about what other people think, yeah, it's you're gonna self-sabotage.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like the first time you put yourself out there, you're gonna be like, well, what if people think that I'm something that I'm not?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: Or like then the imposter syndrome creeps in, um, and then you're afraid of judgment, you're afraid of negative comments.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: That is the hardest part, but like getting past that and realizing there's certain things that I tell myself that helps me get past like making yourself seen is like this is my phone.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_03: This is my phone that I've had is good.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, this is my why shouldn't I put myself on my phone on my Instagram account?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like if you don't like it, then you can just unfollow me, right?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like, there's no it's gonna be scary because you're afraid of judgment, and I think that's natural, but the point is to get past that point.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: No one's saying that you that you're not gonna be scared.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: No one's saying that.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_03: You can be scared, your feelings are valid.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're not telling you not to be scared, we're telling you to, okay, you're scared.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: What are you gonna do about it?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like, because if it goes back to the action, can you do it scared?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: If you can do it scared, you know that that feeling, that reward.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's like when I go on the step machine in the morning, I hate it.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's like I hate it.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: I hate looking at it, I hate doing it.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: But after I do it, I'm like, oh, I did that.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_04: Get off of me.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like if I dunked, I would be screaming at you.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: But it's it's all about like what's after the fear.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think that we, I don't think that we dive into after the fear.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: We be stopping at the fear.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we stop right here.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that's the end.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like, okay.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: There's fear, like you could still do what you want to do if you cross over the fear.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: Don't stop at the fear.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's like a speed bump.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a stop sign.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's a it's a speed bump that you are meant to go over.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: You can go over it slowly, yeah.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: But you can still do it, right?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, or can you?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: Are you punk?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_04: Who out there?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like, is this are we talking to you right now?
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_04: I think we are.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_04: We're talking to somebody.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: Are we talking to you directly?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_04: We're talking to somebody.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's good.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Do it afraid.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I got a friend, Joy McGowan.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: She Love Joy.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: Love Joy.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: So she makes me feel so safe by just being around.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, Joy is like, she was named appropriately.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, 100%.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: So Joy talked about like doing it.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: She was one of the first people I heard say, like, do it afraid.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm watching her.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm at the park.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: This is years ago.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: She got her kids who are now bigger than me.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: But like at that time, there was little kids.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: One kid terrified to go down the slide, and she just encouraging them.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: My upbringing was a little bit, you know, boy, get your buttons.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: No disrespect.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, two things can be true.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: But but she just really, you know, coaching them.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so she's like, you know, you, I know you're afraid, valid, like you said, feel like valid.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: I know you're afraid, but you can still do it.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Did it afraid?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody cheering, like, we want the Super Bowl, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: But I I don't know if that's something that we really talk about enough.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: We don't.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like this idea that you can do hard things.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: It don't mean it's stuff, ain't nobody robots.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it don't mean you ain't gonna be afraid.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: It don't mean that it's not gonna be difficult, but that ain't where the stop sign is.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you can still do it.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so even in your experience as you are putting yourself out there, showing up.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are you introverted or extroverted?
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is so funny.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: Talk about it.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm introverted.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: I know you is.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: How do you know?
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm introverted.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: And are you a water sign?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: What are you?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Are you Scorpio?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was a birthday.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: What's your birthday?
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: November.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this makes so much sense.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: I knew it.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: I knew it without knowing it.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: But but you introverted.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you and I can tell that, but you still show up and you still, you know, encourage yourself.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no, I can do this.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I mean?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so if if if someone out there, bro, is like wanting to get into modeling, wanting to start their own fashion brand, wanting to build their online presence, whatever.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they we kind of need social media now.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying you can't do it without it, but I think it's a good idea.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, we do.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: But visibility.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: We're at a point now where that visibility is crucial.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, for somebody that's wanting to start showing up and start doing the things that it's taken you a while to kind of get to, what's the like your, you know, two to three step program for this person?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like to start putting themselves out there.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Less talk, more action is number one.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, number two, stop listening to people who haven't been where you're going or aren't in the industry.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um I meet models all the time who like gorgeous.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: You you would look at some of the people I've talked to and be like, of course they're a model.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: They're parents, because to me, your parents are your first bully.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: Your parents, their parents have told them that they can't model because they're short or because they're old or because they're too curvy or because of this.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like, are your parents models?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_03: Are they in the industry at all?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I understand that you're gonna take what your parents say to heart.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_03: Those are your parents.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: But you gotta stop, even if it's your parents, you gotta stop listening to people who haven't been where you're going.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like seek counsel and seek guidance from people who are actively in their craft or have been actively in their craft.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if I want to learn how to be a rapper, I'm not gonna go to someone who just started rapping yesterday.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go to you.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_03: Be like, teach me, teach me stage presence, teach me how to connect with my audience, teach me how to make my audience participate.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: You have to seek counsel from people who are actually in the industry.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: And then the third thing I would say is um observe, don't absorb.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like I I can't, there's another thing I can't stress enough.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_03: Just because you see something happening.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: That may be negative, that may discourage you from your journey.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean that you have to like change your course because of what you're observing.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's just an observation.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean that that's the playbook that you need to go off of.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: It just means that that's just something that you're witnessing.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: So I would say those three things, super important.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: And be and be consistent.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like don't get on your New Year's resolution tip and be like, you know, in January, I'm going to go to the gym every single day.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like be realistic, of course.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but do less talking about what you're going to do and more action.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then you can talk about it later.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like you can be like, yeah, oh, so last month I did like a couple things.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: Because when you talk about it, your brain thinks that it's you've already done you've already done it.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: And so you don't have that sense of urgency.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: But like when you do it, like put some action behind it, it feels so good to like accomplish something.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it feels better to talk about what you already did than talk about what you're gonna do.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I would just I would say that.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what's the biggest thing to watch out for?
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: So you gave us the three crucial uh uh let's talk more work.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk more work.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and and and I mean, even that alone is just like it's so rich.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Observe, not absorb.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's so rich.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what was the middle one?
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: You said, um in order, you said let's talk more action.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: There was the a middle one.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, um, seek counsel and feedback from people who are actually in that field.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_03: So if you want to be a veterinarian, are you gonna go to like a soccer coach?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like, no, it's the same thing.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: I got a line in the song where I say they criticize, I'm using a basketball reference and I say they criticize us from the crowd, but we ball players.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: You're not even in the game, you a spectator.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: You wasn't with me shooting in the gym?
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like you, you weren't even in the gym.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_02: You don't know how to get to the gym.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's yeah, so good.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's the same, it's the same.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_03: Because I know people be to trying to tell other people like what to do without actually being in it.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what you need to do, you need to do this, which like imagine me telling you how to rap.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't, I don't know how to like I should never fix my mouth to give you advice.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes people do that because they want to feel heard and they they think that they're helping, but sometimes it's also, and this is gonna get deep.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_03: People don't like mirrors.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes when they look at you accomplishing your goals as a hip hop artist and teaching kids, they see what they didn't do because they didn't put in the work.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's a fact.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: And so it hurts them.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so, what can they do about it?
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: They could do the work, but they're not gonna do that.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_03: They're lazy.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: What they're gonna do is make you out to be the villain so that they feel better about not accomplishing the goals that they set for themselves.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: So just know that sometimes what people have to say to you as far as feedback or as far as like constructive criticism, and don't take constructive criticism from people who make constructed shit.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, sometimes it's just a mirror.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a mirror.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_03: People don't like mirrors, they don't like to do work.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's easier to criticize Bang for, I don't know, I don't even know what to criticize you for, but like, oh, you didn't do this show, or like you didn't say you should put this in your rap.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, are you a rapper?
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Did you say don't take constructive criticism from people who are constructed nothing?
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because you're never gonna be criticized by people doing more than you because they don't have time.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_03: Those people are getting stuff done.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_03: They're not criticizing everybody else for following their dreams.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that says more about them than it does about you.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: They're only doing that because they don't like mirrors.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's a reflection of hey, if you would have put in the work, you could be where Bang is right now.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you could actually do that.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: You could actually do this, but you can't because you got to you were too busy telling people what they need to be doing.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: People don't like mirrors.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, as you can see, you know, I can't just roll to the next thing.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, sometimes stuff got a sizzle.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't mind letting still marinate.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is that is profound in and of itself.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, I'm I'm of the school of belief that there is wisdom in a multitude of counsel.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so, and so I'm with you.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I believe that, you know, Pharrell says if if you hear some feedback, take it serious, take care of it, never take it personal.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, of course, right?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, of course, this ninja for real said that.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, you know, I I hear something similar in you.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like if somebody says something, I think we first gotta evaluate the source.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: 100% you know what I'm saying?
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because like because if I'm a rich man, I can still learn something from a man living in homelessness.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like, what has this person constructed?
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta be honest about that.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_03: You have to take accountability, you gotta take account.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't found that one yet.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't found my home yet.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: But like, but seriously, you gotta take accountability.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, I love that.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bro.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you you gave us some gems.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nah, you gave us some gems.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: What what what do you want to leave us with?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: Where where can we follow you?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: Where can we support you?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: Where can we keep up with you?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: What's the what's the lasting thought you want to leave us with?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like lasting thought.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna repeat it again because it's really helped me.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um observe, don't absorb for sure.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like when your friends are trauma dumping on you, observe, don't absorb.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's a big one.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there's a lot of things going on right now, current events-wise, observe, don't absorb.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, just in general, I would say that's that's the uh main thing.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, I would love for everybody to follow my small business page.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_03: It is thrift, uh, retro by ro Bailey.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's on Instagram.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's R-E-T-R-O-B-Y-R-O-B-A-I-L-E-Y.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_03: Retro by Roe Bailey.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I have thrifted clothing and some items that are new that I make.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm really into like uh nostalgia, of course, and like retro culture.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: So you might see uh you might see some things from The Last Dragon, you might see some show notes, fire, you might see some things on there.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you could definitely follow my page and watch my stories for a daily dose of nostalgia.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: I post, I have a lot of content that I can post on that.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, I would love for y'all to follow me.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, you got a new fan base.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nah, you got some supporters.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, hey, when we're rocking with bang and story scaling, y'all now rock and roll.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm grandfathering currently, and she is now in the gang.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: She's been in the gang, but now y'all know she's good.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, thank thank you for just like I said, I think the biggest compliment I can give somebody in 2026 is you're a person.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: You are a real, feeling, present person.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like you do that in a way that is really, really um, it's healing, you know, for people, just being able to converse and be seen and have a dialogue with you, and you're not like overt, you're not show-offy, you're not, you know what I'm saying?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like you really, I think meek is a word that's showing up for me too.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like is it's power and strength under control.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: You don't walk in here, you know, kind of waving your own flag.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: But but as a result, bro, like we, you know, people really gravitate towards you and not and appreciate that about you.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, I thank you.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining me.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we'll do this again.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.