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- Ryan: What is Park Hoppers? Welcome back to another Park Days Podcast episode. I'm your host, Ryan, and as always, I'm here with my co-host, Charity. Charity: What up guys? Ryan: What is up? What is up? What is up? You guys can see us. If you're watching this on YouTube Charity: It's very different. Ryan: or I don't even know, does Spotify have video now? I don't know. But you can see us. Charity: I believe I don't know. Mainly YouTube. Probably a TikTok like Snipit. Ryan: But yeah, this is our very first video episode. We're trying out something new because we have a very long episode ahead of us and we thought very special. Charity: Very special episode ahead of us. Ryan: Why are we happy? Charity: We're not. Ryan: Why why why do we sound so excited? I know we're excited to record this. Why are we excited to record this? Why are we it's Charity: Excited to record, seeming happy. Cause we got a lot of happy memories, happy things to talk about. Ryan: But Halloween Hornets is over. Charity: Yes, as of Twenty three hours ago. It ended. Twenty two Ryan: Twenty three hours ago it ended. Charity: hours ago. Never mind. Ryan: And Yeah, I I'm emotional. I'm very emotional. I Charity: We are emotional. I'm not as emotional as Ryan, but I am emotional. It was very sad. Ryan: I am so sad. I'm so sad. Charity: But I'm just happy that we had an amazing season. And I'm happy to I'm ready to talk about it. I'm ready to talk about the entirety of HHN thirty five. Ryan: I am so excited. So, yeah, we're doing this in two separate episodes, two separate parts. We're gonna figure out how we're going to release them, whether it's going to be like within the same week or this week, and then next week, a Charity: Couple of day yeah. Ryan: couple of days. We're gonna we're gonna figure that out. But right now, we're gonna be talking about our overall experience of the event and everything in its whole. That is Halloween Horror Nights 35. And then the next episode, we are going to be talking about our rankings, our final rankings. And charity's making fun of me talking with my hands. And yeah, so like I said, we're gonna be talking overall experience. We're not gonna go into our like nitty-gritty on why like a house might be better than another. We're gonna just go with our experience. Charity: Talk about the experience of the houses. Yep. Just this experience of everything. Ryan: of the house. So try to refrain from Charity: Numbers basically we'll get Ryan: Bringing up rankings, yeah. Charity: Yep, we'll get into the numbers in a little. But right now we're just talking about as a whole. Just how amazing the event was. There shouldn't be Ryan: Yeah, so Charity: any cons on this list. I say as I have cons of my Ryan: There shouldn't be. Well Charity: lists. Ryan: well, we could talk about some good and the bad. We can talk about it all. That's what I said. We're talking about it all. Charity: Yes. We're gonna talk about we're gonna talk about it all. Talk about it all. Let's just get into the yapping. Cause I wanna yap. Ryan: Right before we go into it, be sure to follow the podcast and be sure to follow at Park Days Pod on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. We have so much stuff going out there. Instagram and TikTok were booming during the Halloween Horror Night season. We had so much going on, and there's gonna be so much stuff happening that if you're missing Halloween Horror Nights, Don't you worry. We have so much stuff that's gonna be coming out within the next month. And yeah. Charity: Cause we'll be missing Halloween Hornets. Ryan: We will also be missing Halloween Horror Nights. There will be TikToks and we'll it'll it'll be like Halloween Horror Nights and we'll be all happy and then we're gonna sit there posting and being like, Charity: It's gone forever. I don't think Ryan: That's not it's not here anymore. Charity: it's fully processed in my head that Wednesday we're not going to Halloween Horror Nights. I don't think I Ryan: No, I don't that's what Charity: don't think it's gonna hit until it's Wednesday at eight, nine o'clock and I'm gonna be just working. I'm gonna be working and I'm gonna be like, what do you mean I'm not at Halloween Horror Nights? Ryan: I know, I'm gonna get out I'm gonna get out of class and I'm gonna be like, okay, time to go home, put on my horror night's Charity: Get ready. Ryan: clothes, get my stuff, and then I'm gonna be like, wait. Charity: Th there's nothing to get ready for. I think I just made myself so sad. Ryan: That is my gosh, that is awful. That is awful. Alright, let's just let's let's just get let's get Charity: 'Cause what let's Ryan: into this. Let's get into this before we start crying on camera. It's gonna be our very first video podcast and we're we're we're crying. It's just us sobbing. Charity: video episode and it's sobbing Ryan: Geez, okay. Charity: All right. Ryan: Do you wanna start us off, Charity? Do you wanna get us into this? I feel like Charity: No, because I'm sad now. I where where to start? Obviously scare zones. Gotta start with scare zones. But w what scare zone Ryan: Yeah, let's let's just start with the scare tones. Charity: do we wanna start with? Ryan: I think I'm just gonna I'm Charity: I know we didn't talk Go ahead. Ryan: I think I'm just gonna go into Icon just 'cause that's the first one that you enter in in the park. And I think that's just Charity: forgot icon that's so funny. I always forget Icon is a scarezo. Which is Ryan: A scare zone? Yeah, no. Charity: somet yeah, I I honest I wholeheartedly I think it's so funny. Sometimes we'll be walking back to get to Stranger Things or Evil Dead Burn and we'll I'll be like on my phone walking down and someone will get in my face and I'll be like, I'm in a scare zone. Like that's how much Ryan: Yeah. Charity: of a not a scare zone it is. Cause it's it's not a scare Ryan: Yeah. Charity: zone. It's not a scare zone. Let's let's talk about that. I I think it's cool. Go ahead. I think. Ryan: I think it I think it should have been called a I I think it should have been considered a street experience. I think Charity: I think just the fact that you have Jack and Oddfellow, I think technically it's it's not a shit experience and it's not a scare zone. It is a welcoming out entrance. It's the entrance. Ryan: That's that's it but that's usually what an entrance scare zone is, is it's usually just a welcome. within the recent Charity: Yeah, but Ryan: the pat the past years it it is at least. Charity: Yeah, I guess. I just it could have been more. Ryan: No, one hundred percent it could Charity: And honestly I Ryan: have been more. Charity: yeah. we won't get into the nitty gritty details of blah blah blah blah. But I don't know. Like I said, I I I I really don't remember much from this because it is you walk in, usually I'm walking around it, not paying attention to anything that's happening. but you know more about the scare zone than I do. Ryan: I don't really know I can't say that I wouldn't say that I know more about the scare zone as there's Charity: Well you just know you just know the usher. Ryan: And dogs and dogs barking. Spoiler alert. Charity has pets. Darn, we've been trying to hide that for 13 episodes now. Anyways. Yeah, I do I do know the Usher. I do know the Usher. And I gotta spend some time with the Usher. Not too much. Charity: Anyways, but you got to spend time we do another yes, sure. Yes. Ryan: I wanna bring up. I think the best night for this scare zone was closing night. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: Which Because you had Jack and Odfellow and rather than them going up on the podiums, they were they were just both standing around underneath. it was raining back and forth, so the scaractors didn't really get to fully scare act, which is really upsetting. 'Cause why is it gonna pour down rain on closing night and that's because it didn't pour down rain on opening night? Charity: So we've come to the conclusion that it needs to pour opening night. So that way it doesn't pour closing night. Cause I think I think it would Ryan: Yes, exactly. I think that's Charity: it is better if it pours opening weekend instead of and I'm pretty sure I mixed up my words Ryan: Closing. Charity: two two sentences ago, but yes, it's better if it pours opening weekend than closing weekend. Ryan: It does. It does. It does. It does. Because I mean, I'm gonna say this. We can Charity: Except for premium script night. No ring premium screen knight. Ryan: we can talk about this, I think, just because I wanna I wanna bring this up now because it is the most recent and we'll probably talk about it later on in the episode once we get closer to like talking about like closing night and like overall. I liked what Charity: Thoughts, yeah. Ryan: Halloween Horror Nights did. To accommodate the fact that it was s it was pouring all night. you had the photo op Charity: Yeah. Ryan: with the Cindy and Caretaker inside of Five and Dime. The Mel's Dien zombies were inside of Mel's Dien rather than roller skating around outside. The chainsaw carnies were in underneath the animal actors stage, rest in peace, animal Charity: And animal actors, yeah. Ryan: actors. It closed today. And yeah, I think Halloween Horror Knights and Universal finding ways to do these things while it was raining is really cool. The opening ceremony, they had their they had their they did the opening ceremony and Jack and Oddfell had umbrellas. Charity: Umbrellas which was really funny to see. It was so cute. I was like look at them with their little umbrellas. Ryan: And that it was it was really cute. It was really fun. And I think Yeah, I just think that's something that needs to happen more often is maybe I don't know. I saw a video of Hollywood doing their opening ceremony or doing some kind of show moment in the pouring down rain and I don't know what that has to do differently with Orlando. Charity: I think it was hard that closing night just because there was lightning. I think if if it was just the rain they probably could have done more, but there was lightning which was really hard. Ryan: See, I never saw any lightning. The only Charity: We heard it at we heard the thunder at one point. Ryan: I do not recall that at all. Charity: There was. There was lightning. I've got I got four Ryan: Okay. Charity: different notifications. I don't think I ever saw lightning. But just because we didn't see it doesn't mean that it's not in the area. I think it's universal if it's within a certain radius, but still. Ryan: Probably. But yeah, Icon, Scarezone, closing night was probably the best. Everybody walked around. I got to Jack the clown a hug a kid. I thought that was really cute. And like it's a fact. I th I I was I started laughing because it looked like Jack was gonna just pick this kid up when he was hugging him and I I just I I love the I love the interactivity of the event. And especially I think this year we had it there a lot of interactivity within the icons and scare actors overall. Even when the ones that weren't allowed to talk still were so interactive. And that's something that I think a lot of people will argue about. whether it's a good or bad thing when it comes to Halloween Horror Nights, because that is one thing that I did notice this year, especially with the scare it's with the scare zones, is they have become photo opportunities rather than scare zones. Charity: Interesting. Yeah. Ryan: Because I feel like I feel like Jack the Clown and Dr. Oddfellow. And yeah, I was a I I I will say I was a part of that problem. I'm not entirely, but a part of the problem of I did want to get a photo with Jack and Oddfellow. I wanted to get a photo with all of the icons. So I was there trying to get a photo too, but I noticed w in those moments that there are s like Jack and Oddfellow don't get the chance to kind of just be characters. Especially with the event being so big, they were stopped every single moment to take photos. Charity: Interesting, yeah, yeah. Ryan: And I don't know I love that just f obviously I think it's really cool to get a photo with a character. I think I I don't know how we would change that. There's really no way holly and Hornites Charity: I don't know. I think Ryan: has become has kind of went towards that route. Charity: free roaming characters like Disney. But Ryan: Of but also photo photo it's a lot of just photo ops. Charity: I feel like Universal handled it well though within scare zones. Because characters like Jack and Oddfellow, you're they're not gonna you're not gonna get that scare moment where they're like jumping at you or getting in your face 'cause that's not really In their character. You know what I mean? But cause Ryan: It is, but I mean what Charity: even when you're even when you're going through the house, those are the two those are the characters that are not getting in your face necessarily. It's everyone else that is. So when you're walking through downtown clowntown and you're watching chance and everybody on this on the stage, you've got the clowns around you that are roaming that you are still getting scared in that scare zone because you don't know if the flasher ducky person is gonna come up and put a duck in your face, Those aren't ducks. Those are chickens. But I get w no, I get what you're saying and I understand. Ryan: Yes, but I I think I think if we were if they were g if they were given the if they were given the opportunity, they could have. Charity: I don't know. I feel like I feel like because they're icons, because they are that recognizable character and yes, everyone is gonna want a photo. I feel like it's hard for that, but you still have the scare possibility in the scare zone. So that's why I think downtown Clown Town was such a good scare zone this year because you had those photo opportunities. You know, Chance and Eddie and Jack come off the stage and you have the chance to get those photos. But they do keep moving. We even saw a chance the one night, she was like a line is forming and so she ran. and that was very in character for her like in character for her. But I get what you're saying. The whole the e I think I Ryan: Yeah, I I think I think they do a phenomenal job staying in character with everything. Charity: think Universal understood that that was not necessarily a problem, but something that was gonna happen with more photos. And I think they just I don't know, their scare actors do so well. So I'm not arguing against you, I'm just arguing with it. Ryan: No, and I completely understand. I d I think for me it's just I like a one thing I love doing, which I got to do a little bit less this year, I feel like, even though we were in the scare zones a lot more often than not. But I don't think I ever got to fully s take in the moment, which is something I really wanted to do, but take in the moment of the scare actors and the characters. And that's one thing that like So there's a st there was a story going on with Jack and Oddfellow throughout the season. At the beginning of the season, they were not seen next to each other other than in Infernal Carnival of Nightmares. Oddfellow would go to his Sideshow of Decay. Jack would go into Clown Town. That's the only other place that you see them. As the season went on, their alliance grew and grew to the point where they were walking in unison. Like closing night, they Jack was in. Sideshow of Decay. Oddfella was in downtown Clowntown. They had their moments where th by the end of the season they had this like they've joined together and realized Charity: Yeah. Ryan: fully and rather than their alliance or them, because everybody was like, what's gonna happen at the end of the season is they're right now they don't like each other. They're acting like they like each other just for whatever, and then we're gonna find out that they're like they're c they're still battling serely. No, they were not battling. They were growing closer together and it's Everybody's saying enemies to lovers story arc and I think that's hilarious. But Charity: That's so funny. Ryan: But yeah, I would I would like to I would like to have been able to see those moments rather than it being inferred. Which there are. I Charity: Plus Ryan: mi I missed a lot of the moments. I've only I've seen a lot of the moments on video. Charity: I was gonna say I don't think the only time I saw the two of them together was that one time we were walking through Simpsons and that was the very end Ryan: Really? Charity: of their set. I had I don't think I saw Jack or Oddfellow walking it all the rest of the season. But also I didn't go nearly as much as you, but like you also didn't go every single night at the event. But I I get Ryan: But yeah. Charity: what you're saying, but we I don't think I don't think I ever really saw Jack and Oddfellow up on the s podiums either. Ryan: It was very rare because they were walking around the scare zones. I th it's it's very intri it's very interesting how that all played out. Charity: But I also only saw Jack up on the stage a couple of times, legit like three or four times. Ryan: That's very interesting. I feel like I've s I saw the characters. I saw I think I saw Oddfellow a lot more in Sideshow than I saw Jack in Downtown Clown Town. Charity: I think I I think yes, I think I did see Oddfellow in Sideshow more than anything. Which is interesting. Ryan: Yeah. Which I guess Charity: But anyways. Ryan: we could I guess we can talk about sideshow since we're kind of talking about that. We're kinda talking about it all over. But yeah. I Charity: We can talk about all of them at once. Ryan: really I really don't know how I feel felt about just all of the like the the photo ops. I w I wish Charity: I will say Ryan: I could have I wish I could have just experienced like seeing Jack the Clown be Jack the Clown. without watching twenty billion people try to get a photo with him. Charity: Yeah, but also it was still fun watching people try to get photos with him and be like, mm mm and then walk away. Ryan: Well yeah, yeah. Charity: So Yeah. But I I get what you're saying. I get that. Yeah. It's definitely not not old Halloween Horror Nights anymore. It's definitely coming into this new 'cause it is more popular. Yeah. so many people are Ryan: This this new era, it is a lot more popular. Charity: like, I recognize this character now. Ooh, I want a photo with him instead of it just being like, Ooh, I recognize this character, he's gonna kill me. I gotta go. Ryan: Yeah. there was something else I wanted to say. I think it's just I understand that they're supposed to interact with people. They are the only the icons are the only characters or characters in all of the event Charity: That can talk. Ryan: that can talk. So Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I guess like I guess you didn't have the I guess those were the only moments to really have the interactive things, even though all the scaractors, even the ones that didn't talk, had that interactivity, which I thought was great. Downtown Clown Town getting to Charity: Yeah. Ryan: just interact with the different clowns. One of the clowns, I was watching the chance show and one of the clowns kept squeaking their like squeaky toy next to my ear, then hiding behind the hiding behind the person Charity: That yeah. Ryan: the hiding behind the person that was behind me. And like then I would like look back and then be like, okay, they just passed by. And then again, and then I I was like, and I think like Charity: See, I was standing a couple a couple of feet in front of you. Cause you and Eiley were standing together and then I was in front of y'all. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: And then I kept hearing it and you being like, what is happening? So I would turn back and I didn't see anything. So I thought you were j but I heard the noise. And so I thought you were just crazy, I guess. But it w yeah, it wasn't until Ryan: No, I Charity: a couple of times that I saw him coming up next to you. And I was like, that's so funny. And Ryan: It was it's definitely that that's the kind of interactivity that That's the kind of stuff that I like. I like I don't know. I'm trying to r I'm trying to refer back try to think back on previous years and how it was different and I d I feel like I can't because of how different this year is compared to previous years. Charity: I will say I feel like this year's Scare Zones, at least for me, is the most I've ever interacted with characters. Before, I like scare zones were cool to look at, but it was never something that I like stopped and stood there. It was very 'cause I previous years it was always I had one night. So it was very go, go, go, go, gotta get houses done, gotta have a snack, and then it's the end of the night. Whereas like I actually got two spend the time relaxing, just walking through scare zones, interacting with characters. And I feel like it definitely opened a new part of HHN for me that I've never experienced before. Ryan: Was that because you chose to yourself or just because you were with me and I was like, hey, I'm just gonna hang out in the scare zone? we I don't care if I do a house tonight. I just I wanna be here in the scare zone. Charity: I would definitely say both. I feel like 'cause last year Yeah, I couldn't even tell you the scare zones that were from last year because I did go a couple of times but I never there was the there's Toxic Twenties. Yeah. I I think I'm just tired. I do remember them. Ryan: It was Toxic Twenties. There was Cat Lady of Crooked Lane. There was the the can the Charity: I g I I don't think I would say I spent time in them. Not like downtown Clowntown where you know I would watch chance and then mosey over and, say hi to Dan. which me and Dan are not friends anymore. you know, go watch the puppet show. I Ryan: I love Dan. We love Dan. Hey, hey, hey, there's there's d I'm not I can't allow the Dan hate in here. I cannot allow the Dan hate in here. The Delancey Charity: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I th Ryan: Dan hate is not gonna be tolerated on this podcast. I'm just gonna say that now. Charity: Listen, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm just saying he chased after me and that was terrifying. Ryan: Delancy Dan is my like if there was one scaractor that needs to become an icon in the future, it's Delancy Dan. Charity: It's Lancy Dan. I I will say I absolutely loved him. It was so fun. I didn't think I was scared of him at all. I was like, he's so cool until Ryan: Until you directly interacted with him. Charity: I directly interacted with him and I was like, he is scary. And mind you, I don't like clowns. And so when he he's creepy. mind you, I'm scared because I know the other one is right behind me in that alleyway. Out the Ryan: Art the clown. Charity: c art Art the clown. But no, w I was just trying to take a video of him for the TikTok and bro caught wind of it. And so I was and then so he just kinda like slowly comes towards me and I was like, that's creepy. And then I realized I'm scared. So I started booking it. And then bro from there on was like, I'm gonna torture this person. try tried to get me to he went behind a gate, tried to get me to unlock it as soon as I walked up. To unlock it. He flipped it open, swung the gate open. I ran. He chased after. It was awful. and then of course these teenagers came over and ruined it. But afterwards, he didn't high five me. He he poked my hand and I was shaking during that interaction. And then I walked away because I was done. Ryan: That's very that's that's very funny. It was it was very it was very funny. And then we stood inside of the Delancy Dan's alleyway, right outside for a solid hour after because we were trying to record a TikTok. Charity: Yeah. Our not only did we stand close to that, we were standing right next to Art. Excuse me for stood right next to him. That's the closest Ryan: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. Charity: I've ever gotten. And I remember we were sitting on the bench that was right there. And I was like, Eiley, do you think he's gonna drive past on his bicycle? She goes, No, no. No idea if she was lying to me or not. but I was like No, that would make sense. He's gonna come up on to the sidewalk on his bicycle. And then he did. He came up and so I'm gripping onto Eiley, holding her tightly, 'cause I was like, you liar. and then Ryan: Yeah. Charity: he got on his stage and then that was it. And then we filmed our TikTok and we left. It was awful. Anyways, I don't know. Downtown Clown Town, I feel like just was there was just so many great interactions. Like I wanted to spend time there. Ryan: I'm so sad I n I'm so sad I never got to say bye to Dan. Charity: I think Did we? 'Cause we walked past it and I just don't think we saw him. I'm sure he was there. We just Ryan: Nope. It started it started raining. They were doing the cash change. So we got I kinda got to say bye, but I didn't get to fully interact with them and say bye. Charity: No, we did say bye. As he walked past, he saw you and said bye. I have video proof of it. Ryan: Okay, well I mean I meant that I meant in the sense of like sitting in the like standing in the scare zone and standing down on Delancey Charity: In the scare zone, yes. I but still. Ryan: Street and actually like Charity: I wouldn't have walked down the street. You ain't getting me. Ryan: But no, I will say that was that that was what I think the saddest part of what made Closing Night sadder was the fact that it was raining and we couldn't get to go to Charity: Couldn't say bye to everybody. Ryan: our we actually I'm gonna talk about this now because that's the only scares that we haven't talked about yet, but Fortnitemares. Charity: I know what you're about to say and that's not true. Go ahead. Ryan: Okay. I was gonna say that we never walked through Fortnightmares on closing night. You walked through all of Fortnightmares? You Charity: You didn't. You didn't. I w yes, I walked back to the bus, walked back again, took my photo, and walked back. Ryan: Okay, well I didn't know that. Then I never walked through Fortnight Mares. Charity: Because that was a high priority for me is I wanted to say bye to Fortnite. I hugged the bu I literally Ryan: I also wanted Charity: went over, hugged the buck bus, walked out. There everyone no one was on stages, so everyone was kind of like on the ground, which I don't know if it was because of the rain. I'm gonna guess cause it did start. It was raining. so I'm gonna guess it's Ryan: It was It could have also just been because it was closing Charity: closing night and people. So I got an absolute Awful photo with the skull trooper really makes me sad because I wanted a nice photo but it was it my phone just didn't want to take a good photo, so it's fine. It's fine. But I will I had a great I had great interactions in Fortnite too. wasn't well, it was the first couple of weeks ish. Was it the first week or two? Ryan: Something like that. It was like week two or three. Charity: Because I think that interaction I already know I already talked about it on the podcast, but I got absolutely terrified of the little storm. Zombies, what are they called? Ryan: The green guys are called husks. I'm just gonna they're just storm people things. There's a storm. There's there's a there's Charity: Yeah. Arms up. Ryan: a there's like a a t actual name for them, but Charity: Okay. The purple things. they absolutely terrified me. They were awful. They kept getting right in my face. It was such a fun time. And I think that's what kinda changed my brain chemistry for Halloween Horror Nights. Cause before nothing scared me. Because I'm like, y'all are just theater kids. Ain't nothing scary about y'all. You they also I feel like before, at least with me, they didn't get in my face because obviously they can tell that I'm not scared. But I don't know. There was something about that interaction that changed the brain chemistry of my brain, and I just was getting scared by everything since then. So many interactions with characters that I was like, I'm scared. I'm terrified. Ryan: I'm really glad that you got that you got to have that. Cause this is our first year this Charity: I'm really sad that that you didn't. Ryan: is our first year going to Halloween Horror Nights together. I don't know how you were in previous years. Charity: And I just look like a big liar. I just look like a big liar. Ryan: You do just look like a big liar. I'm gonna say that now. I I I was I wasn't gonna say it. I was gonna be nice. I was gonna be nice. But you look like the biggest liar in the world. Charity: Liar. Because I was like, no, I don't get scared at Halloween Hornights. Ryan: She talks such she talked such a big game at work and been like, yeah, I'll nights. It doesn't scare me. It's not scary. They don't they don't they don't scare me. Charity: Doesn't it but you with you went through a couple of houses with me. You saw that I didn't get scared. You saw me go through scare zones. I just didn't care. But there was something about that interaction in Fortnite that really like I don't know, changed something. Ryan: It flipped the switch. Charity: It did. And I because in my brain I'm like, these are theater kids. Stop. Just stop stop being scared. Knock it off. And no, I just can't do it anymore. I I will Ryan: But I'm I'm s I'm so glad that I'm so glad that happened for you. Charity: No. I don't worry, I'll fix myself before next season. I'll get my stuff back together. Ryan: Mmm and be lame and be lame go to I go to horror event, I go I go pay for horror event and I don't get scared. I don't get scared. Charity: did you are you getting scared? Ryan: I am getting scared. In the scare zones, not so much. Yeah. Sideshow of Decay scared me sometimes. I got a good I got a few good scares in Sideshow of Decay. But it's not like I was terrified. you were terrified. You were scared, scared. I don't I d I've I haven't gotten I haven't had that kind of feelings for years. But I do get scared in the scare zones if someone catches me off guard. With the the first night that I went alone, I did like I was a little scared because I was in my brain, I was focused on getting photos with my Charity: Never go alone. Ryan: camera, recording videos, and that I was alone. And then so I was a little scared and then they got me a few times and that was it. But I don't think I've ever had a moment of being genuinely terrified in a scare zone. Charity: But I feel like Ryan: Even swamp zombies, even swamp zombies, I'm scared of zombies. And swamp zombies from a few years ago just didn't scare me. it like it didn't like terror. Charity: You don't get scared at the event you paid to get scared at? Ryan: Well I do, I get s I do get scared. I'm not I'm saying I don't get terrified. I have not ever been Charity: Here's here's Ryan: on the ground in a scare zone. Charity: Here's the difference. I think me being on the ground in Fortnite was only because they kept getting in my face. I couldn't hear that they were there. I may or may not have been intoxicated. And then also I was laughing so hard that I couldn't breathe. That's also why I was on the ground. Not because I was scared for my life. I was not You can see in you can see in the video that I was laughing. Ryan: Uh-huh, uh-huh. I was laughing. I was laughing. I was laughing. You guys listeners, listeners, listeners, I was there in the moment. She's just trying to play it cool. She's trying to play it cool. Charity: Will say the f I guess the first the first one. First scare where I was showing the video to you guys and I didn't realize that it was the little zombie thingy was right next to me. That one did scare me. That one did scare me. But I wasn't terrified for my life. I was just scared that there was something next to me. Listen, I get scared at work when. Ryan: Okay. Charity: Anyways, we're going on about this. anyways, Fortnite, great scare zone. I understand a lot of people were upset. Us. being people were upset that it was coming to HHN. I take back everything I said. I think it's fantastic. great scare zone. I hope that they bring maybe not a scare zone again, but I hope they keep not every year. Maybe every couple of years some aspect of Fortnite. Especially now that I'm getting I don't see I don't see I don't see it Ryan: I d I don't see it. I don't I don't see it. I don't see it ever coming back. Charity: happening either really. I Ryan: Mm-mm. Charity: just feel like it it it did bring the things that we were scared of did happen. The teenagers running around, not great. just the whole teenage thing this season was awful. Ryan: I wanna say that they definit the not they, the scare zone just I'm glad hearing this is going off topic just because I need to get this th I need to get this thought out before I forgot about it. But but what I was saying was, because I I really don't want to forget this thought, just the Charity: Yes. Ryan: a lot of people that were not excited for Fortnite, talking to a lot of people that were not excited for Fortnite, definitely were. They like it more than initially. And I I real I'm Charity: I feel like Ryan: glad for that. And I think everyone's really coming around to the fact that we all something we all start somewhere when it comes to Halloween Horror Nights. Something had to have brought us to the event. Brought us to the event at some point. Fortnite is a way to get this a younger generation because we're ever we're we're growing, we're aging. And As Halloween Horror Knights fans get older, they need to k still be able to bring a younger generation into the event. Do I think that Fortnite might have been a little bit of an under, like a a a reach Charity: Too young of a Ryan: of a too young of an audience? A little bit, but also Five Charity: Yeah. Ryan: Nights at Freddy's was here last year. And I think Five Nights at Freddy's is a younger audience than Fortnite in the sense that a lot of the people that play Fortnite or that played Fortnite. are like our age now where they're in their they're in their early t early twenties. That's just what I'm saying. I think I think we it ha everyone has to start somewhere. Charity: Yes. And that's why I'm I'm not gonna argue with you on the Five Nights and Freddy's thing. just 'cause no, that is that is my generation. And any kid and and Ryan: Yes, the final night says Freddy's is Charity: and any kid that is not at least fifteen should not be playing or know what Five Nights and Freddy's is. But that's a different topic. but no, I get what you're saying. There are a lot of kids that are both into Five Nights and Freddy's and Fortnite. Should they be into Five Night Freddy Five Nights and Freddy's? Absolutely not. Ryan: But there's kids that are into horror. Charity: But Fortnite I feel like Ryan: There's there's kids that are into horror too. And that's but that's like it's all like a parental parental choice and also just a per a personal choice. Charity: Yes. But that's why I feel like but also but it's not just Five Nights at Freddy's. It was Blum House. That's why I like if they bring back Five Nights at Freddy's, for the second movie, I will absolutely be there for it. That'll probably be my number one house for the year 'cause I love I myself and a Five Nights at Freddy's kid. I love it. but same with Fortnite. You know, I grew up playing it. do I play it I am now as an adult. playing it more again, but before the event started, no, I didn't care about Fortnite. So I I do view it as more of a eight to twelve year old range game. Which is wrong. Which is which is a wrong opinion. But Ryan: that makes sense, which it's not because it should be Fortnightmares itself, the event is a rated T for teen. Charity: Yeah, but that yeah, but it's not like Ryan: Anyways, that's going in that's going into game game mechanics and p game rating Charity: Yes. Ryan: and stuff. Charity: But again, this the scare zone itself, I feel like it had good scares. I feel like the scare actors themselves, most of them did try very hard to be scare actors. They were trying to get in your face. They were trying to sneak up on you. They were chasing after you, trust me, I know. they did good jobs as scare actors. But then also the ones like Skull Trooper You did not see him smile. You saw he was very serious. I feel like they really did get into their characters. I don't know all of their names, but Ryan: For the moment. He was there as a photo Charity: Yeah. Ryan: up. He was there as a photo op. That's just I think that was my big I think Charity: But not even there. Ryan: that was my biggest issue with I think that's my biggest issue with Fortnightmares as a scare zone in total in in in a whole is it's a very corporate scare zone. You have Fortnightmares plastered, boom, right as you walk in. It's very reminiscent of Halloween Horror Nights 30. Yeah, H T 30 in 2021. When we had Crypt TV. That was a very corporate scare zone that was specifically to bring photo ops of these Crypt TV characters for people to take pictures with. And what, don't get me wrong, I loved being able to see, I'm forgetting his name now, but I loved him at the time and it's been so long. But the one that has like, it's It's like a flesh face. He has no eyes and he has the big smile. I think he's called the smile or something. I'm gonna do the research while charity talks because I need to know the name now. But yeah, I think it's very corporate. Charity: I and I don't think you're wrong. I think it is very photo opish. everyone but also like I just I feel like the way they interacted with people was so good. Ryan: The looksie. I'm so sorry. The looksy. I freaking loved the looksy for some reason. And yeah. Charity: What character is that? In Fortnite? Ryan: The Luxie. No, no, no, no. This was the Crypt TV. I'm talking I'm talking about the Crypt T V. Like I was I was going with corporate. I'm going I'm going with the corporate. Charity: okay. I was like, that is not a Fortnite character. Okay, I I was not I have no idea what you're talking about anyway, so but So wait, you were saying we never mind, we can get into that Ryan: I think Fortnite's too corporate. Charity: We can take that. And I think that's I think that is true, yes. It is a very they 'cause what they Ryan: It's very much, hey, poof, Fortnite. Charity: IP. But it's an IP that they really can't do much about. They have to represent it in a certain way that Fortnite wants to be represented. And I think that is the way that Ryan: that that's what that's what the prop that's what the problem is with corporate I I don't I don't like IP zones. I'm gonna say that out I'm gonna say that outright. I don't like IP zones. Charity: Which is as much as I've loved seeing the killer clowns, what was that? Can we can we jump over there? Why do we only have Ryan: we c we can jump over there. Charity: why do we only have a weird the the little float? Ryan: The parade float, which I wanna bring this up because I learned something really cool. So I went to Spooky Empire. I got to meet the Kiyoto brothers. We were talking about the scare zone. They sent the original like models and like blueprints for the original parade float from the movie to Halloween Horror Nights to then recreate it for Halloween Horror Nights. And they worked directly, like the Chioto brothers worked directly with Holly and Hornites to bring the clowns back to HHN. And I just wanted to bring Charity: Steep. Ryan: that up because I thought that was really cool to learn. Charity: That is so cool. And I'm and I'm glad that they did that because yes, that that the parade float is cool, but I'm like, why is that the only thing we basically had? it wasn't very detailed, And I get it, it's a scare zone, Ryan: We Charity: it's hard to be detailed, but like it Ryan: Well no, bec it's because it it's one small section of an entire scare zone. Charity: But that's my thing. If they if they were out, would you have known that was killer clowns? Ryan: Yeah. I'm a fan of the IP. I would know the parade float. I would know the cotton candy cocoons. I would know the pies. Charity: Okay. I just I just but also I am sitting here, I'm like, Okay, but what more could they have done? And I don't really have an idea. I just feel like it was it was missing. There's something missing and I don't know what. Ryan: the ice cream truck that they only have one of and they were using it as Chance's ice cream truck rather than Jojo ice cream truck. Charity: No, I just not even that. I just feel like there is something that could have been that's that and that's what I'm Ryan: There's not really much they could have done. it's it is very reminiscent and v it was very reminiscent and very similar to the scare zone and HHN twenty eight. It was very, very reminiscent. Charity: The year I didn't go. Ryan: Yeah, the year you didn't go. Charity: But I did the house the Ryan: in yes, in twenty nineteen, yes. But I'm saying it's very reminiscent of the of the scare zone. the scare zone and the house were are very or scare zone now and then are very similar. It's not the IP itself doesn't have that much that you can work with. Charity: Yeah, that's what I'm yeah, I'm like what else could they have put? A tent, but it's like where would you have put that and that it would have fit but not fit at the same time. Ryan: I think if they could have somewhere, it would have been cool to project the Charity: Yeah. Ryan: tent and then then whenever anytime there was a cash change or something, the tent would start to spin and then fly Charity: Sw yeah. Ryan: off. But I mean, you where where could they have put that? It's I loved it. I loved it. I'm not Charity: Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. I like Ryan: I you're talking you're talking crap about the killer clowns being at Halloween Horror Nights. I loved it. It was one of the things it was one it was one of the things that made me love Charity: talking crap about the clowns manga. I l loved the clowns. We talked about this at the beginning of preseason. I wanted killer clowns from outer space. And you said Charity it's not gonna happen. Charity they're not gonna do it. Charity they don't do repeats. And I said it's gonna happen. And I'm pretty sure you cut that out Ryan: I d I'm I'm I'm very I'm very shocked. Very shocked. Charity: actually. I'm pretty sure you cut out me saying I want killer clowns. Ryan: I c no, I cut out I cut out the fac I cut out the thing of trying to say that the entire you were trying to say that the entire New York scare zone was going to be killer clones from outer space? Charity: Which I'm glad that it's not. as much as I hate art with a living passion, I'm glad that there was that piece there. I'm glad there was Delancey Street. I'm glad we had Chance and the Puppeteers and everything else and Keller Clowns. I loved how big the scare zone was because you could just mosey on from each thing and get different pieces. it was great. Even us just running through Ryan: Because Charity: it, trying to get from Cyber Goria the whole way up to the sound stages every time. there was always something happening. It was very fun. I Ryan: It's very fun. It it's it's always something happening and it's and it's very fun. And that's something I love. So the reason why it was broken up like that, and I'm just bringing this up, I don't know if you knew it, but it's because you know, they took the clowns took over New York and just like Charity: Yes. Ryan: they were trying to copy just like New York has boroughs, we had the different boroughs. We had the main, Charity: Yes. Ryan: we had clown town, we had the killer clowns, we had art, like the different boroughs of clowns. And I I just think that's really cool. Charity: Yes, it was very cool. and that's the other thing that I will say about the scare zones. Getting the echoes in the fog storylines I feel like was a like game changing for this event. At least at least for me. 'cause Ryan: It was it was game changing. I like hearing this I like hearing the background stories. Charity: not getting into houses, but without the Cyber Goryeo one, I don't think I would have I think Cyber Goryeo would have gotten scarier, but I don't think it would have been as terrifying to me without it. But then also the downtown Quantan one. I loved hearing those stories. and Ryan: I I did too. Charity: and especially like the Mel's Dion one. Like that one was so fun. because I didn't know Ryan: Yeah, I th I loved having the new I we're Charity: I don't think we knew what Meets Meets was. Ryan: I kn I knew what Meets Meets was. It that's it's a that's Charity: yeah, but I don't think Ryan: a Charity: I think we went through it. I don't think we could remember and so that's why that was cool. Ryan: No, I know what Meats Meets was. That's like one of the main core things of Carrie Ohio. So you're trying to say we to put us in to make you feel like you were not alone and not knowing. Charity: Y I d no. I remember when I remember when we were recording and you're like, I know what it is, but I just can't remember. I didn't know what it was. Ryan: Probably probably in the moment. Probably in the moment I'd Charity: Maybe in the moment, but you didn't finish it while we were recording, so I'm saying you forgot. Anyways. I didn't know what it was, so it was cool to see. And that's why like I really liked that this year was the echoes of the fog. anyways. anything else for scare zones? I was gonna say we've been talking about scare zones for an hour. Ryan: I wanna go to Yes, because we've we just I just wanna go back to sideshow for a bit, just cause I loved Charity: Yeah. Ryan: seeing all of the past scare actors and all the different characters and Batilda and the Cat Lady, the cats from the Cat Lady and Lady Luck and Usher and and I'm blanking on her name. Cindy, my gosh. Not Usher. Charity: Well, Usher was an icon. Ryan: Cindy and the Caretaker. Charity: Caretaker. Ryan: Usher is an icon, and he was in Infernal Carnival of Nightmares. Anyways, Charity: Yes. Ryan: the only one we were missing was the director. He was hinted at, but he was hinted at throughout the scare zone, but he was nowhere to be seen. But I Charity: It wasn't in the scare zone. Which was interesting. Ryan: loved seeing. Just all the past characters and all these characters coming back and seeing them in this decaying format. And talking about the echoes in the fog, we do we have the echoes in the f of in the fog of Sideshow. I wish it was longer, because it doesn't really give as much of a story as the other Charity: And it's funny you say that 'cause I don't think I heard that one throughout the whole of it. Ryan: They never I don't think th I think they played it once. I think they played it once. Charity: I yeah, I think I saw bits and pieces of it, but again, I think I just never saw it. Which I I do wanna watch all of but Ryan: Because the media the media package the media package that was showing on the screens and stuff, it kept getting longer and longer as they were releasing things and it definitely Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else to wanna say about scare zones. I just I liked Sideshow. I know you weren't a fan, but I just wish Charity: I think it's just 'cause I don't I don't know all the characters. I know some of them better now and trust me, now that it's postseason, I'm gonna miss H H N. I'm gonna do more research as it goes into like these characters and going down the rabbit holes for each one. but unfortunately I don't know all of I am a bad Halloween Horror Nights podcaster. But trust me, by this time next year I will be better. I'll be s I'll be more knowledgeable than Ryan. Don't you guys worry. Ryan hates it Ryan hates it when I'm right. So don't worry, I'll get there. Ryan: Mmm Mmm Mmm Alright. Anyways that was it that was it for Sc that was it for Scarezones for the art thing I Charity: Mm. But that's it for scare zones. I'm sure it'll probably come back up once we have more stories that come to mind. But wanna move into Ryan: brought it up he touched my head It's on TikTok I can't I think I I wrote that down as something that I wanted to talk about, then didn't talk about it at all. Charity: So glad I wasn't there. How would have been like bye? Ryan: yeah, I thought that was really great. So yeah, that's that's it. Charity: I hate art the clown. Anyways, you wanna get into food and drinks? Ryan: Yeah, we can get we can get into food and drinks. This is probably gonna be shorter. Even though we t we Charity: All the it'll be shorter. Ryan: we talked a l we had a lot. We ate and drank a lot of stuff. Charity: I think we had combined between the two of us, I believe we had every food item. Ryan: Probably. I know the only food booth I did not get anything from Is the hell raise a free booth? Charity: good, it was gross. Well, 'cause it was gross anyways, Ryan: That is the only Charity: all if all they had over there was the brain and the pork grinds, right? Ryan: No, they had the the meatball. Charity: I know. That's funny. That's the only food booth you didn't get something from. That's quite funny. That's Ryan: I didn't even get the drink. I was gonna get the drink. I was gonna get the Cinnabites kiss and I didn't. And I'm sad thinking about it that I didn't get to because that is that is legit the only Charity: That is crazy. Ryan: place th that I didn't get an item from. I got something from every other place. Well no, okay, I didn't get I never personally got the chips or the fried pickles. But yeah. Charity: Well yeah, personally you didn't get a lot of the food. But I don't know. We don't want to talk about Ryan: No, I I purchased something from every single food booth. Except for except for the zone. Charity: We don't We don't have to talk about all of the food individually, 'cause obviously the chips great. n what are like the normal things? The the walking tacos, same as always. I will say Ryan: Yeah, pizza fries. Charity: the b I didn't get the pizza fries, but I did get the birrio ones. Those were pretty good. I liked them. thought about getting them again. The only thing is that they get soggy easily, but that that's just a Ryan: Yeah. Charity: fry quant consequence. And also it was just very like you needed water to drink to drink while eating that. It's very very salty combination. But trying to think like what was your Well are we gonna rank food when we do our rankings? Or are we just talking about houses? Ryan: I don't think we're gonna rank food no, we're gonna bring it we're gonna rank food and stuff too when we when we do our rankings. It's gonna be a quicker one. Charity: Then we'd have to we haven't ranked food before, so why don't we just talk about our quick rankings? Not rankings for them, but Ryan: I I Charity: you like your top three or something. Ryan: I was just gonna talk about my thoughts on the food in general for this year, rather than like a ranking. Charity: for this year. Ryan: 'Cause I did I did pl I did plan on doing a ranking for food when it when we did the rankings list. Charity: I don't know how we're gonna do that, but a captain. okay. Talk about your Ryan: But I Charity: overall thoughts of the food. Ryan: Overall thoughts of the food I don't know if I'm a h I was a huge fan of the food this year. Charity: Agree. Ryan: I think there were there weren't as many options. And the options that we had, I feel like they were very expensive for the portion that you got. Charity: 'Cause why am I getting a can that's half bred? Ryan: Yeah, why is it sixteen dollars for a can that is half bread? Mac and cheese and then just Jack Lynx beef jerky. Charity: Well beef jerky is disgusting anyways, but that's beside the point. I just wanted mac and cheese. Ryan: But why? Why is it sixteen dollars for that? Charity: Yeah. Ryan: you you have your staples, yeah, the pizza fries were delicious. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: there were some mind blowing food items, but I don't think they're mind blowing in like an overall like Holly and Hornets. Like I don't think in the next few years I'm gonna be thinking back on this food item. Not like not like the campfire dog. Charity: There's only there's only two or three that I would be like, yes, I'm gonna miss that. I mean in a video I Ryan: I don't I don't think so. Charity: in a video idea I was thinking is that us re trying to recreate food items that w from this year? but who knows? We don't wanna destroy Ryan's kitchen. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: But I don't know, the the Jack and Oddfellow dog, I loved it. like I thought about getting it every single night. But again, like I didn't want to eat it every single night. Yeah. Ryan: It was it was a good it was a good dog and I'm I'm glad we got it on closing night. Yeah, I'm glad we got it on closing night. Do I don't I feel like okay. Jack and Odd Dog. The only thing I can think about when it comes to the Jack and Odd dog is nearly throwing up trying to eat it in under thirty five seconds. It's the only thing I can think about with that that hot dog now. Charity: But I think that r see, but also I think about that moment and I just remember laughing 'cause ha I I took Ryan: Well I do. I remember laughing and it Charity: I took one bite and I was like I can't Anyways. Ryan: Yeah, that's exact that that's exactly what happened with me. It was I genuinely I took that first bite and I was like, Yeah, it's n it's not happening. It's not happening. Charity: not happening. But I don't know. I feel like I don't know. I know I didn't love them just 'cause I don't love Big Max but the taco the burger tacos were a big hit this year and I do see those c I do see Ryan: They were a big hit. A lot of people Charity: those coming back somehow, some way. 'cause n as much as Ryan: Similar to the the death by cheese stick, how that came back this year. Which it's good. Charity: Yeah. which the the death by cheese stick this year was really good. Ryan: It's good, don't get me wrong, but Charity: Eleven dollars for a cheese stick is crazy. Ryan: Again, I'm just I'm not I'm not a fan of the food this I'm not a fan of the food that we got this year. And I r Charity: Yeah. Ryan: and the food is something that I look forward to every year 'cause there's always the one there's always a one item that I'm like, I love this so much. Give Charity: I gotta get that, yeah. Ryan: me this ever like let me get it every single night. And normally it's the f Charity: But also my Ryan: norm normally it is the and normally it is the funky hot dog that they bring. I will say that. the cordyceps corn dog, the campfire dog, the no, those were the those were the only two that really stand out to me when I think about the food. There was a a grilled cheese short ribbed grilled cheese from HHN thirty that I still think about to this day. Charity: Interesting. Ryan: And so th I don't I d I personally do not think that there is anything this year that I will be thinking about in five years from now and being like, damn, I really miss that. Charity: Yeah, I I don't think there's like there's food items that I've never had that I'm like, I want that so badly. so I'm like, was there anything this year that I was like I don't know, I do feel like it is just mid and then half the time it's it's not even warm. and that's a big thing for me. I love my food burning hot. so that's just it's that that's why I feel like I do love the chips so much because I'm like you can't It's very rare for them to mess them up. Even when that one time they did really mess it up and there was so much salt on them. Ryan: But there it's Charity: I still thought they were great. Ryan: it's a snack. I'm when I when I'm at Horror Nights I don't I want a food. I don't want something that I want I'm gonna eat. Charity: You wanna food, yeah. Well what about the pizza? You really liked you guys got the pizza a lot this season. Ryan: Yes, I d I got it okay, I got the pizza twice. Charity: Only twice. Ryan: Only twice. Nope, Charity: Okay. Ryan: I got it. No, I personally only got it twice. I shared with Eiley the first I shared with Eilee the first time we got it because I didn't want a full pizza. Charity: maybe. The first Yeah, and then you got it. Ryan: I wanted something else. And then I got it when we went with my my family. And then I got it myself Charity: Yeah. Ryan: one of the nights. Yes, that is the it's I think that and the Jack and Knot dog are the two items that I got the most. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: But it's but it's not it's less of It's less of I wanted them and it's more like, these are the only things that not not even 'cause I couldn't I can barely eat the Jack Nod dog. I can barely bear I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I'm not saying I'm not saying that it was bad. Mm. Charity: I loved it. I will say. I I I think the one thing I will think about is the Jackennaw dog. Like I think for me, I will think about that in a year to come. But then also I think like I can make that myself. Other than the bun would probably be the only thing that I could make it, but it's the only thing that'd be hard. I could put cheese and peppers and onions and crushed up Cheeto hot Cheetos on a hot dog. But I don't know. What about drinks this year? I have a very different opinion about drinks than you. Ryan: Mixed drinks didn't care for. As well. I'm there's nothing, none of the mixed drinks this year. I again will be like, my gosh, bring that back, bring that back. The Charity: Yeah. Ryan: only one that I can really remember getting is from closing night when I got when I finally got the Circus Peanut Forever. That one is probably that was it was decent. Was it the best drink? No. I think and this is something this is something Charity: What what was your favourite drink? Ryan: that this is something that I'm gonna bring up now. If we do I don't we're probably not gonna rank drinks. That's not the type kind of podcast that we are. But if we were to if we if we were to rank drinks, I would try I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this. Ring of Carrie is not allowed to be on that list because it is not a Halloween Horror Knights beverage. Charity: Yeah, it's not it's not a Hollywood drink. do they have it during park hours? Ryan: Yes, they do. Charity: Okay, then yeah, no. I'm I mean Ryan: It is Charity: obviously not it was the best drink we had all season. Ugh, I don't know. I will say I really like the Starburst one from Ryan: The Starburst okay, I keep forgetting I keep forgetting about the Starburst. The Starburst was really good. Charity: I I Ryan: I also liked the Scarecrow, the one that I got that time that we went to Eddie made the drink for me. Charity: down yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember what it was called. I I d did not drink Ryan: I think it was this I think it was called the Scarecrow. Charity: that night. Okay. but yeah, I think the the s the Pink Starverst one was really good. I don't think I disliked any of the drinks we had this year, but none of them were like memorable. I did really Ryan: None of the yeah. Charity: I did really like the caramel apple one. I just wish that wasn't a pre a pre made one. But I get it. I understand. Ryan: I I got to try the frostbite. I thought it was I thought it was okay. Charity: my gosh, Jess and all of are gonna especially Duff. Duff is gonna be like Ryan: Just and Duff and they're gonna yeah, Duff is No, I it was okay. I it it was the spice. I I it was the spice. Rand closing that yeah. Charity: Duff Rayan. Ryan to get it. But yeah, no, I'm not a I'm not a spicy margarita type either. Or just spicy alcohol. Ryan: But yeah, that's that's the that's the exact reason why I never got the Cinnabites Kiss was because that was supposed to have the he liquid heat bitters as well. Charity: yeah, no. Ryan: Which Charity: Unfortunately we are not mature enough for that. We're just just babies. Ryan: But no, there's no there's no drinks that really I will say Club Horror or not Club Horror, Dead Coconut Club was the best place for drinks at HHN this season. And Charity: Dead coconut place to get drinks. Yeah. I will say yeah. Ryan: it sucks that you can't I I know liquor laws and all of that, but it sucked that I could not bring my drinks from Dead coconut club in the Halloween Horror Nights. Charity: Coconut into the into the parks, yeah. actually Ryan: I th the best drink is Maniac Mix. Charity: Best drink was Maniac Mix. There were times throughout the night where I'm like, do I wanna pay $15 for a mixed drink? Or would rather just pay $15 for a Mania mix? And I would rather just pay fifteen dollars for a maniac mix because I'd be like, I could just go get a maniac mix. I could grab a snack. I'm so happy. What? Ryan: Whatever the drink was from the key holder bar. Charity: I didn't like I didn't like either of the drinks. Ryan: That we swapped out that we swapped out that we swapped out the lemon for the lemonade. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: Whatever that one was called. I thought that was good. Was it the best one? No. No. Charity: Was it the fr was it Frankenstein? Ryan: No. I know the Charity: Yes it was. The other one was some type of eyeball, but the one you got was Frankenstein. Ryan: I don't think it was called Frankenstein. Anyways, I really I liked it. I think it wasn't the best. It was called it was called Frank's Fizz, but it's not Frankenstein. But it was called Frank's Fizz. Charity: Same difference. No. I Ryan: No, it's not. Frank and Frankenstein are two different things. Anyways, it was a good drink with the lemonade. Charity: Did you say Frank? Frankenstein or two? Ryan: Yes, because Frank could also be Frank from Hellraiser. Charity: yeah. Totally. no, I didn't like either of the drinks. I got the eyeball one, didn't like it. I think just 'cause I don't like Ryan: That was a lightchy fruit. The eyeball that was on top, that was a lychee fruit. Charity: Ew. Ryan: I just I just recently found that out recently. I don't know how Charity: That's so funny. But yeah, no, I didn't like that one. I think mainly just because I don't like ginger beer. That's that's my own fault. I need to be more of an adult. and then yeah, the Frankenstein one, like it was fine, but I just I didn't I didn't think it was the best thing ever. don't know. I guess maybe the only thing I will miss is the pink Starburst and the caramel apple. Ryan: No, I'm I'm gonna miss I will miss the maniac mix. I wish I'd just got that at the last night. If Charity: And the miniacs. I will definitely miss the miniax. Yeah. Ryan: hey, hey Universal, please like find a way Charity: You got any leftover? Ryan: find a way to s find a way to s just sell that at like a local liquor store or something. Let me Charity: Wonder what's in it. I'm sure there's probably someone will come out with a dupe somehow, some way. Ryan: Let me buy a six-pack of the Maniac mix and Charity: All right, alcoholic. Ryan: I just want to be able to have it whenever I want to be able to have it and not have to pay $15 for one can because if I went and got it from an ABC Liquors, it would be $20 for or $25 for a six-pack rather than $15 for one. Okay. Charity: That's that's fair. Anyways, let's move on from drinks and food. Any other comments, concerns about them? Ryan: Not a fan. Wasn't a fan. Charity: Not a hater, but Ryan: Not a hater, not a fan. Will I buy what if the food at Halloween Horror Nights had a concert at a stadium, I would not go and buy a ticket to the concert that they had at a stadium. I would st I would stand outside of the stadium to have a taste of them, but not pay to see them inside the stadium. That's a weird analogy. I Charity: Not sure what that was about. I will say, I love premium scream night. mainly for the fact that you get to try all of the food. Ryan: Yeah, one hundred percent. Charity: yes, I understand that you are technically paying for the food, but at least it's all like set up already and you can just walk up, you know, they hand you the stuff. Like it's very and it from my experience, everything was warm. Everything tasted great. like I know we tried the burnt sand dune, sando, whatever it's called, a couple of nights ago. And it wasn't good. Premium scream night, that was one of our favorite things. so I I I'm sh yeah. so that that could be something beginning season, end of season Ryan: It was it was a fan favorite. It was a fan favorite. I will say. It was a fan favorite. But nah, I'm not a fan. Charity: stuff prob might taste different. Not sure. So food is a big thing for you, premium scream night, if you can afford it. Definitely, definitely try to get into it because it was it was fantastic. And that's the other thing where I have to decide, do I stay at the beginning so everything is still brand new and great? Or do I do the end of season one where what's more important? Food or scare actors? Scare actors. Scares. Ryan: For scares? Scares. We don't have time for stupid stupid questions. Charity: says the one that just made some stupid concert analogy. Mine Ryan: Just we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't have time for stupid questions. Let's move on. We're let's talk about the shows. Let's talk about the shows. Stranger Things return to Hawkins is starting Charity: Yeah, it's over. Ryan: soon. It's not. I don't see the lights. Charity: I don't see the lights anymore. It was really funny. So beginning of H H N thirty five, everyone consistently was getting getting the notification. Hey, Stranger Things Return Hawkins soon is starting. Hey, it's starting soon. Hey, it's starting soon. Hey, it's starting soon. they did fix it after what, the third day? Ryan: A third night and then never got a notification again. Charity: Never got a notification again, which was really funny. but then the last three No, I guess just closing weekends. Because Ryan: It was just the last weekend, yeah, closing weekend. Charity: on Wednesday it was rainy too, that Ryan: Yes. Charity: just because it was so cloudy, you could see the lights from the Stranger Things Return to Hawkins show. you could see them from all across Orlando. I was driving the whole way from Winter Park and I could see them. It was Quite hilarious. Ryan Ryan: Yeah. Charity: can see it from his apartment. so that was our new inside joke was hey, Stranger Things is starting. Ryan: Stranger Things is starting. And it it was just full circle. But yeah. We only watched that Charity: Full circle, full circle moment. Ryan: show once. Charity: High what, one and a half times technically? Ryan: One and a half times 'cause we recorded the TikTok, but Charity: And then we walked away. Yeah. I don't think Ryan: But actually sitting and watching the show. So we made a TikTok saying I I Charity: I think I've watched it the whole way through. I think you watched it one and a half times. I only watched it half a time. Ryan: No, we watched it all the way through. Remember we were standing there, it was Yumi and Eilee. we we stood right there on the side next to Mel's. Charity: Yes, but we didn't watch the whole th we we walked in at like the very end. Ryan: We le we we left no, we left at we left right before the very end. Charity: Okay, so so I didn't watch it the whole way through 'cause we watched the beginning of it, mean you, and then with Eiley. I feel like we watched until Ryan: But yeah. Charity: the end. Ryan: But no, do okay, s do I think it's the best lagoon show? Like I said in the TikTok, yes, I do think it is the best lagoon show. Charity: I think it was edited together very well, but Ryan: Do I do I watch the Lagoon show ever? No. I watched it twice last year maybe and that was just because there was nothing better to do. Charity: Nothing better to do. Yeah, house is Ryan: There's nothing better to do. And I meant and I meant that. And that in the way of everything was so long. I will say last year's lines were more unbearable than this year. That is something that is something that I will Charity: Interesting. Yeah. Ryan: wholeheartedly I w I think last year was ten times busier than it was this year. And it was busy this year. But last year I mean Charity: It was busy this year. Five nights at Freddy's pulls a crowd, Ryan: I think just operations. Charity: man. Ryan: I think operations just we're doing a l a lot better this year. Charity: Yeah. It had its moments. S especially in HR Blood and Guts. Ryan: Anyways, we'll get we'll we can get to that when we talk about houses, but shows anyways. Straight things return to Hawkins. Cool. Cool. Charity: It was yeah, it was cool. It wasn't again, I'm not a big Stranger Things fan. but then also Ryan: Buy Stranger Things. Bye. Hey hey back no Charity: Yeah, l literally bye forever. Ryan: hey hey back now hey back no where where's back now? Hey back now Charity: Throw him off the carousel. Ryan: See ya. Charity: But not just that, but also the way that it was projected onto the water just wasn't quite right. Could have been a little crisper. but the music was great. Like I didn't like I never complained and I was like, it's starting again. Ryan: I know, I know for sure that all the Fortnite scare actors were sick of hearing the music because even I was sick of hearing the music inside of Fortnitemares. It was like Charity: Really? I see in Fort Nightmares it did bother me, but anywhere else, like if I could hear the music, I was just jamming out. It's Ryan: I know, but I was also getting I was also getting really annoyed with the killer clowns theme. Charity: See, I don't I y yes, but every time I started I just just you just gotta get into it. Ryan: I don't know, 'cause I felt like you could hear I felt like you could hear it from everywhere and it's like I wanna hear the park loop, which also why was the park loop only six songs? The park wide music loop was only six songs. Charity: I feel like I only ever paid attention when it was Jack's theme or Oddfellow's whistle. Ryan: Yeah. I don't know. Ma maybe it's just maybe it's just me. Maybe it's Charity: I just tune out everything else. I think that's it. I just Ryan: just a me thing. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I don't know. Anyways, nightmare fuel. Charity: Never feel. Ryan: Blood Noir. We went to the very last showing. Charity: Very last showing. And I will say, so I went premium scream night, so w one of their very first shows. Ryan: Mm-hmm. Charity: and then I went their very last show. Very different. Very different. There was I don't know if it was just 'cause it Ryan: Interesting. I I like hearing this. Charity: I I don't know if it was just because it was the closing actually. Yeah, I guess I'll just talk. I was gonna ask you how your show was, if you thought there were any differences, but I'll just sound crazy really quick. were there any difference? Ryan: No, I don't I don't think anything was too different. I just think the energy was higher. Charity: yeah, a hundred percent. there weren't very many people in my showing during premium scream night. there were so many more dancers and actors in the final one than there Ryan: Interesting. Charity: was premium scream night. and then also there were a couple of different like elements and stuff like that that I saw that I was like, that definitely wasn't their premium scream night. So it did make me wish I would have watched it at least one other time. because it definitely 'cause Ryan: Middle s mid season or something. Charity: I could follow the story w I'm trying to think of what it was that like I saw that I was like, okay, I can follow the story with this. My gosh, what was it? I don't I can't really remember. I just remember seeing that. I'm like, okay, so this is the story. This is where it was going. and it made me really enjoy it. Was it my favorite nightmare full feel? No. But I like the vampires. I like the vampire genre. So I I am hoping maybe next year they'll continue the story like they have before. Ryan: Please don't, please don't, please don't, please don't, please. Charity: Because I like vampires. I really do. I really like vampires. It's one of my favorite genres. Ryan: Don't please don't. Charity: I'm not a Twilight girly, but I do love vampires. So I wouldn't be mad for another Nightmare Fuel noir. Ryan: Listen, Charles Gray did a good job. I'm I'm cutting you off. You're you're ending your sentence and I'm just gonna get into it. Charles Gray did a great job. Show directing it. Charity: Ryan cutting me off, let me be surprised. Go ahead. I was d I was done anyways. Ryan: I saw Nightmare Fuel for the first time last year, loved it, didn't like it the first time I watched it. Then it got better. This year, same thing, sort of. First time I watched it, I was like, no, this isn't for me. I'm not gonna see it again. Then I saw it again. I was like, it's better, it's bet better, but I still don't like it. Final show, it was great. Do I still like the show? do I still like this year's show itself? No. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: But I will make sure that I if I'm going into it excited to go into Nightmare Fuel, then I will make sure that I have a good time. final Charity: Yeah. Ryan: night, I was giving the energy. Even it even if I didn't care. I was giving the energy. I was giving the energy and making it. Charity: It was crazy. I'm pretty sure I have on video how insane you got during the opening Black Parade. It was quite entertaining. Ryan: I d okay, well I I will always have that energy for the Black Parade. I've best part of Charity: That is fair. That is fair. Ryan: the entire show. I'm sorry. I I like it it's the best part of the entire show. Charity: It is the best part of the entire show. I still don't understand the girl flying at the end. I will say it is such it's so out of place and I hate it. That's my only two cents on that. The rest of the st show is great. I hate it. I I Ryan: I don't like what's his name? The sword swallower. I'm so sorry. I think I brought this up the last time. Charity: It just I don't think I I don't dislike him. I think I think it's great. I understand what's part of the show. Me myself grosses me out. I I I I s got on Ryan: I just Charity: my phone. Ryan: it just takes me out of the show. I don't I don't I just I don't think I don't like the c Charity: Yeah. But I think so I think that was my Ryan: I don't think I like the core I don't like the choreography for it. Like I understand there's only so much you can do when you have a sword Charity: It it just seemed very random. Ryan: down your throat, but why are you rolling around on the floor? Charity: To prove that he's not cutting himself. Anyways, that was my one problem with this show is that there was no magic this year. which I feel like I don't know if that was just from the carnival theme. Ryan: There was no magic the there was no magic last year. Charity: it there literally there are l literally parts of magic in the thing. Go back and watch it. I don't know what to tell you. but I think that's that's Ryan: 'Cause last last year's off moment was a contortionist. Charity: Yes. That's also gross. I'm talking about the show in a general. Normally it has bits of magic in it. Ryan: Okay. I don't know. Last year last year was the old the last year was the first year that I saw. Apologies. Charity: Mm. I've been I've gone every every time I've I've been to Hollywood Horror Nights, I've gone to see Nightmare Fuel. except for maybe twenty nine. I can't remember. I just don't remember that year. But Ryan: Nightm nightmare fuel didn't exist in twenty nine. Charity: So yeah, I probably didn't go. But also I didn't think I would experience something like that with my family anyways. But anyways, from the Nightmare Frails I remember there's always been bits of magic and that was not part of it this year. just like magic show I expect. I can't say that word. You know what I'm trying to say. We're not gonna get Ryan: Yes. Charity: into me not being able to say words. But that's it for that is my two cents on all of the houses. Ryan: Yeah. Do I want Nightmare Fuel next year? For My girlfriend, yes, she likes the show. She loves the show. She loves the show. Charity: I also want Nightmare Fool. I don't know I don't think anyone could look at Nightmare Fuel and be like, I don't want this back next year. No one would look at it and say, Absolutely not. And if y and if Ryan: I don't know. I miss last year. I like the carnival theme. I like the carnival theme. I like the carnival theme. I'm not a fan. I'm not I wasn't a fan of the vampire. Well yes. Yes. I don't want more vampire. I don't want more vampires. I Charity: But it was time to we were done with the carnival theme. Now if we do vampires, now we can have a d vampire theme. And then and then when vampires are done we can go on to something else. Ryan: don't Charity: I'm telling Mike. Anyways. Ryan: I don't know, something about this final something about this final show though. Felt final. Charity: Well we almost didn't have a nightmare fuel this year. Ryan: Yeah, but I'm saying Charity: Remember? Ryan: I'm saying something about this final show this year felt final in the sense that we won't have Nightmare Field next year. And there's also there's also rumors Charity: Or we almost didn't have one this year. Ryan: Yeah I still don't understand Charity: Go ahead. Ryan: because their tour still there's their tour is still going on. I guess it was just a different I guess w just The fuel girls they're it's still said that they still had their shows in like a whole different country. Those never got cancelled. Charity: Are you sure? Did you ever recheck that? Ryan: I did. The tortates were still there. I don't know. I I checked it once. Anyways, that's all I have to say Charity: I was gonna say. Ryan: about Charity: But yeah. don't know. I I didn't hate Ryan: The shows. Charity: it. I didn't hate it. Liked it more than I liked Stranger Things. Ryan: That's fat that's true. Charity: Yeah. So Ryan: Alright, so we're back after that brief break. We're gonna move on to merchandise. Charity: Woo. Ryan: Merchandise! If you're listening, Charity: Woo! Ryan: if you're listening, we're wearing our merch. I have a bunch of it. I have a bunch of it behind me. So Charity: The merchandise. Behind you, yeah. Ryan: if you're if you're watching, if you're not watching and you're just listening, I feel like I I haven't brought that up when we're like describing things or and when we're showing or something. We're gonna try to be very descriptive when we show or talk about any of the merch, if we're wearing it or whatnot for the listeners for this part. But yeah. Merchandise. I have a lot of it behind me. Charity: Ocean dice. Ryan: lots and I did not control myself this year. So do you want to talk about the merchandise that you got first charity? Because I think yours is very little compared to compared to me. Charity: That's so mean. Are you saying that I am stingy and hated all of the merchandise this year and only bought two things because it was all absolutely awful? Ryan: Yeah, that's what I meant. Charity: 'Cause yeah. No, listen, I I I didn't like the merch this year. I I I'm not a don't wanna say I'm not a big merch person, 'cause I am. All I wear is graphic tees and like merchandise that I get from things. Like that's all I wear. I just don't Ryan: You're not a fan of Halloween Horror Knights merchandise. Charity: I don't know I don't think that's it either. It's just I don't think it's my style. Because even the one shirt that I did want that once I saw it on someone else, I was like, I don't want that shirt anymore. I was like, that is such a weird shirt. Ryan: What share are talking about? Charity: The one with the zipper on the back. Ryan: yes. Charity: I just it looked not right. And then also maybe it's the art. But once I saw 'cause I didn't see the hoodie at the beginning of the season or at all throughout the season until I bought the which Ryan: Which is so interesting. Charity: is so funny. It wasn't until I bought the hood like I saw the hoodie and I was like, my god, I want that hoodie. 'cause I went in there looking for the spirit jersey, which I still really didn't want. I was just cold. But the second I saw the hoodie, I was like, I'm getting that hoodie. I was like, I don't care if it's on sale, not on sale. I wanted the hoodie. and I got said hoodie. It's just the hoodie that's got all of the houses on the back. Yeah. The houses t Ryan: Yes, so it's basically the the house's t shirt, but as a hoodie. Charity: shirt, but as a as a hoodie. They also had the zip up as well, but I'm not a zip up person. I like Ryan: They had a zip up, but that was a key art. That was a key art. So that was the IP hoodie. Charity: okay. Ryan: They didn't the zip up did not have the houses. It was just the IP key arts. Charity: And I think that was the one difference is I did not like the IP shirt. I liked the house's shirt. Ryan: That is, I will say, so I was at Universal today, and that is the only merch that's like left is the IP Key Art merch. They have Charity: Yeah, so Ryan: I was only in City Walk. I was didn't go into the parks, but they had like six rows of just the IP key art merch. And I just think the design nobody liked the design, which I'm sorry to whoever made it, but it in my in my personal opinion, it is not the best IP. merch, but I also am not a fan of when they make the IP key art merch. Charity: But also, I don't know if it's just a universal thing or s whatever. The shirts as they go up in sizes are just at all it they're very long. They're not wide. And I myself like wide shirts. One, so I can cut them, or I just I like wider shirts. I don't like long shirts. I don't want to wear a dress. so Ryan: Which they had a dress that released halfway through the season that had the Infernal Carnival of Nightmares design on it. And had this weird like Charity: Was it was it Inferno Corner for your nightmares or was it Clowntown? Ryan: Yes. It was the Infernal Carnival No, it was the Infernal Carnival of Nightmares. And it was it was like a shirt dress and that was weird. That was some weird Charity: that's so funny. But yeah, that's why I even that was weird. which I did like the clown town shirt, but I just again I don't like the longer look. The only other thing that I got was the shirt that Ryan is wearing, which is the Riptour thirty five Yes. We did not do the RIP tour. We should not have these shirts. Ryan: R.I.P. tour thirty-five, which we didn't do the R.I.P tour. We got we got word we should not have these shirts, but we got word that they were just selling them. Charity: Telling them. Ryan: And we that word was technically wrong. Charity: That word was technically wrong, but but we got them. All that matters is that we got them. And it's the only Ryan: We have them. But we have them. And it's it's so good. Charity: cause this the second that I saw the shirt, I knew I wanted that shirt. because it's got Jack and Oddfellow inside of the 35. It it's got the nice Halloween Horror Nights like the Halloween Horror Knight symbol is smaller. It's not never go alone. big Ryan: Yeah. Charity: on the thing like on the shirt. So that's why like I like it. I like it a lot. It like I am so excited that I have this shirt. and also the fact that I got it for thirteen dollars. Ryan: I know I was so I was so excited to wear it. I was so excited to wear it for this episode. I was like, what am I what am I gonna wear? Do I wear my spirit jersey? Charity: Yeah. I did wear it yesterday for closing night. That's why I'm not wearing it. That's why I'm wearing my hoodie. Ryan: I was like, do I wear my spirit jersey? Do I wear the 35 shirt? Do I wear the houses t-shirt? Do I wear the Fortnite shirt? Do I wear the button up? Holy crap, last year I told Charity: I never did get Ryan: myself, last year I told myself I wasn't gonna buy any more shirts other than the house's t-shirt because I have I don't wear the Halloween Hornets I a lot of my Halloween Hornights merch I don't wear outside of Halloween Horror Nights. And even then a lot of the shirts that I wore this this this year were shirts that I bought. from this year. I don't really it's it's weird. But I have over forty Halloween Hornite shirts now. And I realized that I bought so much more this year. And I told Charity: Mm. Ryan: myself last year I said, I'm just gonna buy the house's T shirt But then they released Charity: I am sad. Ryan: They released at least Charity: I interrupted you. Ryan: they released I mean a decent amount of nice merch that I liked at least. Are is it my style? Charity: Yeah. Ryan: No. No, not my Charity: No. Ryan: style at all. Not my style at all. If you see me wearing a Halloween Charity: That's what I'm saying. The shirts are the shirts are my style, but they're just not my cut, I think. Which is not my style. Ryan: Yeah, no, none of the shirts are my cut, nor are they really my style. They're all black. They're all black. The only one Charity: Which is so funny that you got them then. Which is my style. Ryan: the only one that really is I've slowly learned is my style is the Roosevelt shirt. The button up. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I don't know. I feel like I really like it. It I really like it. Charity: It is a nice shirt. Yeah. It is a really nice shirt. I do wish I would have gotten the Fortnite shirt, but also at the same time, it's not my cut, so nah. Ryan: It's gonna end up being a loungewear shirt. I'm I know I'm probably gonna end Charity: Yeah. Ryan: up wearing it tomorrow. And it's just gonna I'm gonna spend the day wearing it tomorrow. Charity: Yeah, but Ryan: We'll see. I just wanted something that was Fortnite that had the Halloween Horror Nights logo on it. Similar to how I almost bought the obsession shirt that was on the website that had that had the definition of the word obsession and then had the Halloween Horror Nights on the sleeve. I really wanted that, but I didn't want to order it. Charity: That is really cool. Ryan: I d I really didn't want to order it. So Charity: Why? That seems like such a U shirt too. Ryan: It is such a me shirt and that's something that I would wear anywhere. Charity: You would wear that. Ryan: I just didn't want to order it because it was going to be thirty-five dollars on top of shipping and with no discount. Charity: yeah. How much did you Ryan: And so that was gonna come out to a fifty dollar shirt. Charity: spend on your one Wish Willow shirt? Exactly. Yeah. Ryan: Anyways Charity: But what else did you get? Ryan: I got I got the poster that's in the back there that is signed by the artists, which it just covered up my H H N thirty Jack the Clown poster. I had an H H N thirty Jack the Clown poster that was that's behind there. But now I have that one because I like it 'cause it has Jack, Chance, Eddie, Oddfellow's eyes with the symbol. It's Charity: Mm. Ryan: just it's it's such a cool design. And the fact that it has all of them and not just Jack, it's it's real it's a really Charity: It's Ryan: cool design. Do I like the style of the Charity: Very thirty five. Ryan: Jack the Clown one more? Yes, I do like the style. But I like the fact that I have more than just Jack the Clown. Charity: Interesting. What else did you get? I 'cause you didn't even tell me what pieces you got for the thing, so tell me. Tell me what you got. Ryan: so I got all of I got all of the pieces for the carousel. I got Jack, Ozzy. Like I just I got all the pieces. So there was Jack, Ozzy yes, all of I have all of them now. Charity: you got all of Okay. 'Cause before you were talking about just getting the couple. Ryan: The the ones that I liked. I was I was not going Charity: Yeah. But you got all okay. Ryan: to get all of them 'cause like I'm really mad at myself that I bought some of these at the beginning of the season because they were fifteen dollars a piece and then I bought four of them today for fifteen dollars. Charity: $15. But hey, at least you had them just in case. Because like Ryan: Anyways, yeah. Charity: by I know the carousel's still available, but you didn't know. So that's kind of the that's Ryan: I didn't know. I didn't know. Charity: kind of the gamble that you have to take. Because the one thing the one thing we did Ryan: Will I will I buy the will I buy the acrylic thing? I'm just I'm sorry. Will I buy the acrylic Charity: Good, good. Ryan: thing next year? No, no. I rem you were with me. Charity: You still got the okay, Ryan: You were with me when I bought the the carousel. The Charity: Yeah, yes. Ryan: origin the when I initially bought the carousel. And we put we put it together and I said, Why did I buy this? Charity: I don't like this. Yeah. Ryan: I hate this. Charity: And I told you in the moment you could probably return it. Look at you now. The whole whole setup. Whole shebang. Ryan: Horshebang. Yeah. Charity: Anyways, the one the one piece of merch dice that I knew that I wanted was the Jack and Onfellow sweater. It was the only thing I wanted. And that's the only thing that Ryan was in charge of one thing was to get me that sweater. Ryan: I really wanted that one too. It sold out. That's Charity: And then Ryan: another thing. The merchandise. That was one of the best merchandise items this year. my gosh. I didn't I have to grab this thing. Sorry, listeners. Charity: What are you grabbing? Ryan: The bag charms. The bag charms that sold out Charity: The bag charms, yes. Ryan: after opening night. The bag charms that sold out after opening night. This is the best merch item. This is Charity: The mystery the mystery box bag charms, yes. Ryan: This is the best merch item ever. I love it so much. And I'm so upset that they sold out on opening night. And to never return. you could get them on the website, but again, shipping and pricing. And even then I think Charity: Yeah. Ryan: it's sold out after A week after people found out that it was be still being sold on the website. Charity: Interesting. Yeah, 'cause people were going crazy over them, trading them, selling them. Which I feel like was a good sense of community was being able to trade them not selling them, but trade Ryan: It was, it was. Trading Charity: them. that's that was a big thing this year was all of the trading. Trading the bag charms, trading bracelets, trading trinkets, trading Ryan: The trinket box, that was great. I love the trinket box. I got a little few pieces. I'm wearing my bracelets that Eileen made me, the my park days and my hell yeah jack bracelet. Charity: Yeah. But Yeah, no, I just merch is the yeah, yeah merch is the Ryan: I liked it. I liked them a bit. I bought the coin, the commemorative coin with Jack and Oddfellow. Charity: Shooted by the coin. Ryan: I will Show it to the to the viewers. It's this is we're doing this as an incentive for people to go subscribe to the YouTube channel. Go Charity: Good yes. Ryan: subscribe. But it's like has Jack on one side 35. If my camera focuses, clearly it doesn't light want to, and then Oddfellows on the other side. And it's such a freaking cool coin. And I kept telling charity that. While yes, this was an expensive coin to get, we're gonna I'm gonna figure out how to create s do some kind of content with this, whether it's a TikTok, YouTube video, something, maybe it'll have something to do with the Charity: The fact that you have to justify it. Ryan: It's so cool. It's so cool. Charity: And what, you bought it did you buy it for thirty percent or for fifty? Ryan: Fifty. Charity: How much was it originally? That's crazy. Ryan: $45. Same price as the opening and one year coin for Epic Universe. Charity: Interesting. Anyways, anything else did you get? I feel like you're missing something. Ryan: Yeah. I feel like I feel like I got s I feel like I got so much more that I'm forgetting. The killer clowns from outer space ornament. Charity: yeah, yeah. Ryan: I bought Hellraiser pins on the closing night. Charity: you bought the you didn't get the lug bag, but you got the charms. Ryan: No, I got the lug charms. Got the Hellraiser Charity: And the chicken. Ryan: and the killer clowns one. Charity: There was something else you got that day too. You got something else that day too. Ryan: That was I don't even remember what I got. Charity: Cause you had four things in your hand. It was the lug bag, the two charms, and something else. Ryan: Hmm. I don't remember. Dang. Charity: But you do I am right, right? There was something else. Ryan: Yes, there was something else. And then I put it back. No. No, I only put back the lug bag. I don't rem the shot glasses. Charity: No. You bought something else. Shot glasses. You bought the shot glasses. Ryan: I did buy the shot glasses. I'm so happy that I bought the shot glasses. Charity: Yeah, I'm not crazy. Ryan: I'm so happy I bought the shot glasses because those were one things that I wanted last year that sold out immediately was the the Terrifier shot glasses. So I got the the icon shot glasses and I'm so happy that I got them. I forgot all about them. They've been sitting in my they're just sitting in my kitchen. Just on display. Dang. Anyways. Yeah. That's merch. on a scale Charity: Yeah. Merch. Ryan: of on a scale of one to ten, where does the merch land? Okay, Charity. I was Charity: You're lucky I didn't give it a zero. I didn't hate it. I just Yeah. You bought so much. You better you better rank it high 'cause you bought so much. Ryan: I give it I give it a seven, seven point five. I I have to give it more just 'cause I bought so much this year, but I think it's li I think it I think I think it's really because like I anniversary merch more than Charity: I don't know, I feel like Universal only makes Ryan: I think I just also love Jack an odd fellow and a lot of the stuff I bought was Charity: Jacking off a fellow, apparently. Just gonna smile after that. Just gonna smile. Ryan: Thanks for that. Than thanks for that. Thanks for that. Charity: But I don't know, I just feel like shirts are so expensive for not having more size or like more sizes. Like I liked the cropped houses T shirt and I wish I would have gotten it. but I didn't. But again it's sold out, so not much a girl can do. But I feel like I would I would do something for that Jack and Oddfellow sweater. Ryan: That's that's crazy. That's crazy. We're gonna we're gonna move on. We're we're we're gonna move we're gonna move we're gonna we're gonna move on from that now. Charity: Well, I I can't say what I normally would say 'cause it's a podcast. It's that me Ryan: We're gonna move on from that. We're gonna actually we are gonna go into the houses. I really don't know how I really don't know how No, no no no. We're moving on. We're we're moving on. You don't you don't you don't you don't get a redemption. You don't get a redemption. You don't get a redemption. You you Charity: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. No. No. Because normally I would say I would kill somebody for it, but I feel like I can't say I'm gonna kill someone for something on the podcast. So I said I'd do something. So that made it sound just weird. Can we cut that whole thing out? We can. Ryan: We can't cut that out. No, we can't cut that out. That no we can't. No we can't. We fine, Charity: Then you gotta leave it all in 'cause I gotta I gotta I gotta redeem myself 'cause Ryan: we'll leave it all in and then if the if the if you're a do do do do do on your door Anyway Charity: talking about I'm talking about me redeeming myself after when I said that I would just kill somebody for it. Ryan: No, that's what I'm saying. Anyways, we're gonna move we're gonna move we're gonna move on to the house. We're gonna move on to the houses. Charity: you're saying the cops are okay. Okay. I took the kid. Ryan: That's this is this is fun and whimsical. Anyways, we're gonna move on to houses. Do you wanna do you wanna redeem yourself and start talking about houses? Cause I have I don't I do not know where to start. I do not know where to start. Charity: Or do we start with houses? 'cause we can't go Ryan: What is your what's your opinion on houses overall compared to previous years? Charity: Okay. Of this year. I don't know if it's just because I'm viewing this year with different eyes for two different reasons, both as a content creator and like being to experience this as a like being able to experience the full season, not half a season, not one day, the full season, makes me experience it just two different ways. and I loved this year. so much. I loved the I loved the original houses so much. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: and even all of all of the IPs no not all of the IPs. There's one IP that n never grew on me. Most of the IPs grew on me. I didn't care for them. I didn't didn't do any research on them. But they they grew. They every I don't know. The event as a whole. It's my favorite event ever. but yeah, no houses, like originals I think will I think all of are at the very like like I loved all of Even Alien Ryan: Interesting. Charity: Invasion, I loved it. I li I loved the concept Ryan: Interesting. Charity: of it. I loved Ryan: Interesting. Mm mm interesting. Charity: So I don't know. I what about you? Compare like originals to IPs, how does it all come together? Ryan: So overall so We're getting we're getting into we're getting into really tough topics for me now. Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: So I do whatever comes out of my mouth in the next Five minutes of me talking. The Charity: Three hours. Yep. Ryan: next the next five minutes of me talking, however however long. I love the event. I love this year. It's it is it's it's it's close to my heart. It's dear to my heart. There's there's many, many reasons. The experiences I've gotten to get throughout the season are what really make this year. The houses are great. I think my issue was this entire year I was Just thinking about last year. And that's only for certain houses. Some Charity: Yeah. Ryan: houses, I'm like, I love this house so much. But even then I there I think there's really only I think there's Charity: No, I I get what you're saying. Ryan: really I think there's really only two this is crazy because one of these houses is I'm I'm gonna say I'm not gonna say what house it is, but one of these houses is my number one and I would I don't know. I don't know now that I'm now that I'm trying to say it out loud, I I don't know. But like, so there's some houses this year that I am 100% like Alien Invasion, I'm in line and I'm going, where's Hatchet and Chains? Where's Hatchet and Chains, Demon Bounty Owners? I'm in line for, I mean, even in line for like Ozzy, and I'm I'm in line for I'm in line for Aussie and I'm like, where's the Terrifier house? Where's where's why I'm in line for Evil Dead Burn. I'm missing I'm missing the Wyatt Six. Like, there's so many houses that I'm in line for, and I'm just like, I miss last year. And I do. I do miss last year as an event in the in the house category. Last year had such A solid lineup. I remember trying to rank last year and literally being like, I cannot place these anywhere. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: This year, it's I can definitely I it was very like my rankings list was very easy to make. It was very easy to make. And that's something that I won't take into account of loving the event and whatever. I don't know. I even like what I was gonna say was even my number one house. Even my number one house. I'm also like where was last year's house? where where I missed last year's house. In this location. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: But it's like like my so my number one of last year and my number one of this year, I'm like, where I they they're so equal in how they land in these houses. This year's means something to me, like there's something more that means to me, but last year's was just so good. Charity: Yeah. And that's that's the I think the different part with this one is I feel like we're I don't know, maybe no. I think I'm crazy. I was gonna say we're more emotionally attached this year to certain things. Which I think we are. I think they're like Ryan: Will I will say, I will say, closing night this year, I did cry. Closing night last year, I did not cry. I I will say that. But it's not again, I think Charity: Yeah. But also I feel like this year's experiences really do change this year. for us. We had a lot of different experiences, again, viewing it as a content creator compared to just loving the event. It w it's very different. Ryan: It is. And I think and there's some pros and cons of looking at it as a content creator. I mean, Charity: Yeah. Ryan: going into Halloween Horror Nights and being like Gotta create something. Gotta gotta make something Charity: Gotta do something, yeah. Ryan: to to post content. Charity: getting getting yelled at 'cause I just wanna take a night off and getting yelled at by my boss being like, No, you have to get up. We gotta go to Halloween Horror Nights. We gotta go gotta go to my content. and it sucked Ryan: We had to p I didn't yell. Charity: and it made me got into my head. it made me th there were times where I was like, no, like I don't wanna go to Halloween Horror Nights. Like I don't wanna like the event is just not it right now. Like I'm tired. I wanna go to sleep. Ryan: Which makes sense. I Charity: But then but then as soon as I was there, as soon as I was in the middle of it, I'm like, no, like I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad that I have a reason to get up and come to the event. Because yeah, probably without it, like last year I wasn't a content creator. I didn't I had the same pass and I only went like five or six times. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: which, you know, paid for the pass, like I got my money's worth technically, but it still wasn't the same, Ryan: I get that. Charity: so that's why that's why I mean you are gonna view this year very different. This is my first year of very like of experiencing what Halloween Horror Nights really is, other than just doing houses. and I feel like we're getting into just Halloween Horror Nights as a whole instead of just houses again. But it's hard to talk about houses. It's gonna be hard to talk talk about houses without Ryan: Which I it's it's really hard to talk about houses when Charity: trying to talk about ranking, so maybe we do skip over it. not skip over it. We talked about kind of it as a whole. the only thing I will say is I feel like I've been now that it's over, I feel like I've been trying to s trying to look past the houses, trying to say like, they are so detailed and they are so like creative this year. But they're not last year's. Last year's their set set designs and stuff like that were very big and out there and very detailed, which not blood not blood Ryan: My perfect Charity: moons. What was the one a couple of year couple of years ago where it was like the The sailor one. Ryan: Dead Man's Pure Winter's Wake. Yes, one of the most beautiful Charity: Thank you. That is what my Ryan: houses. Charity: what am I w and I think I've been craving that as a house, which L Artista got close, if not equal. Ryan: Which is it's a it's a Charles which that was a that was a that was a Charles Grey house. And that's the thing, is I feel like Charity: Did he do any out? Ryan: Jack and Oddfellow was Charles Gray. Invasion was Charles Gray. Charity: That's what I was gonna say. Was alien evasion Charles Grey? Ryan: And I think I don't know if he was like taking a different like approach on things, but nothing this year really Charity: Even Jack and Oddfellow didn't hit like it should have. I think it's the screens that really do ruin it. like I love Jack and Oddfellow, but the I just like I'm telling you, if Jack and Oddfellow would have been up top instead of having screens, best house Ryan: Yeah. Charity: best house by far. By far. And then also the other thing this year that I tended to be in a lot of the there were like mm monsters in In Windows to be scarce. They do it in both Ryan: I know what you're talking I know what you're talking about in Jack and Oddfellow with the whatever those creatures are. I think they're Charity: Is it Ryan: zodiac creatures. Charity: Yeah, but I think it's also in Yeah. Ryan: I don't think so. I don't I don't know exactly which like what other houses you're talking about. I don't Charity: But yes, those I just I don't like I really don't like them. There it is in another house. I'm not crazy. Ryan: I I'm not too sure, but Charity: I c I can't I can't think of it. The event's over and it's not like I can redo the houses. I'd have to watch the videos Ryan: There's Charity: to look back, but I really it there c it could have been that's that's the thing that I'm trying to say is a lot of the houses are really short this year and there's not enough detail. Like why do you have Stranger Things and Evil Dead Burn in one soundstage? Why do you have Jack and Odfellow or Jack and Odfellow? Ryan: That's normal. Charity: Yeah, but like why do you have Ozzy Ryan: It's normal. Charity: and Madland in the same sound stage. Like you cut you have so many sound stages back there, split it up. Ryan: Well, they have to use sound stages for break rooms. Charity: Yes, but all of Ozzy's cue was in a soundstage that never really needed to be. Ryan: I I I understand. I'm not I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I can I see why they did what they did. Charity: I see why, but again I again the only thing the I feel like maybe the Ryan: But yes. But yes, especially Charity: most detailed one might have been Ozzy's. I feel like between No, I take that back. I just Ryan: Visually. Charity: No, none of I just Ryan: I disagree with you there, but I'm not I w I won't go into the Charity: And I n and I know what you're gonna say, and I still don't think that's right. Ryan: the only one that really felt like Blood Moon, for example, was Hellraiser. in the fact that because in Deadman's Pier and and Blood Moon and even El Artista where you could see one part of the house from another part of the house. Charity: Which is what Jack Nodfellow, which is very Charles Grey. Ryan: Jack Nodfellow does that only at the very end. Charity: No. You can say you can see multiple parts of the house through all of it. when you're walking through Ryan: Only the zodiac room that you can see that window into the can of souls, that's or the skull. Charity: Yes, that is one part. That's one part. but you can s maybe it's not on purpose, but you can see I don't actually know his name, but I'm gonna call him Trivia Show Jack. Ryan: yes, you can see the the yes, with when you have the one. Okay, yes. Charity: And you can also see the tunnel from somewhere else. Not the not the swirling tunnel, the the one with the Ryan: The tilted. Charity: the s yeah, the tilted. You can see that from another part as well. So there are they're they're little, you have to look for them and I don't know if they're necessarily on purpose, but Ryan: Interesting. Okay. Maybe that's something I missed. I'd love to redo it and see that. Charity: Hey Ryan. I anyways, but yes, that that what I was trying to say is that I think I've been trying to be in denial that the houses this year are very detailed, and they are detailed to a point, but it's not like previous years. I do still love the houses this year. Like they're the There are great houses and I'm sad. Are you crying right now? 'Cause that's crazy. Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Charity: But 'cause we'll get into our rankings, but there are just there's just Ryan: This is what I mean. This is what I mean. This this is what this is why I don't understand why last year, Charity: I just I I think again, I think this year was just so different for us. It was different for me for two different reasons, it was different for you for one reason and I think that's a big reason for you. and I feel like there's a lot of there's a lot of uncertainty moving forward. Ryan: But even but even the but even like the house but even like the houses that like that I'm really sad that I'm never gonna get to go through again. Like even those those houses that I'm really sad about, like Even those like I I'm I'm a thought came through my head, a thought came through my head about a house that I am never gonna get to go through again. And that's what made me start tearing up was that thought. Which and and and and that's the thing and that's the thing that's so crazy to me is because I think about, I've never I'll I'm never gonna get to go through El Artista again. I'm never gonna get to go through Dead Man's Pier. I'm never gonna get to go through Wicked Growth. All of these houses that I love. Charity: You're about to make me sad. Ryan: in that I'm never gonna get to but it's like all of these houses that I'm never gonna get to go through again doesn't make me sad. But then I think about this year and I think about these houses that I'm never gonna get to go through again. And it makes me sad. Charity: Interesting. I see I don't have that. I I miss LRT stuff. I miss Dead Man's Care. I miss Blood Moons. Dang, I miss the freaking Tooth Fairy. Like like I miss those houses. I don't know where the Tooth Fairy came from. I don't know why that popped in my mind, but I do miss it. And I Ryan: I loved I loved it. I loved the Cheeth Fairy House. I Charity: know, so did I, but it was just that was random. Ryan: I think that'll be I think wait, new episode idea just came. Just talking about old old houses. Cause we didn't get to do this stuff when we didn't get to do this content creating stuff in those past years, but getting Charity: Before, yeah. But Ryan: to be able to do it in an episode to talking about past would be really, really cool. Maybe if Charity: Maybe, maybe maybe midway through just for some type Ryan: Maybe. Charity: of H H N content. I don't know. Like there's there's one house that I'll so glad I never have to do again. Ryan: Everybody knows what it is. Just you can say it. Everybody knows what the freak it is. Charity: No no, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. So glad I never have to do it again. I literally kicked in screen to not do it ever again. Ryan: Yeah, you did do it more than more than you said, but you kinda had no choice. Charity: I did. I had no choice. Gun to my head. But I I don't know. This Moral of the story. I loved the houses this year. Could they have been better? Yes. We'll see what next year brings. Hopefully they learn. hopefully they keep a lot of Hopefully they sorry. Ryan: Yeah, what your d what your dog agrees. Charity: She also, yes. But I hope they keep a lot of a ac say the word for me. Ryan: Effects? I don't know I d aspects. I don't even know what you're saying. No, yeah. Charity: No. Aspects. Thank you. Thank you. You're not on the same wavelength as me. You should be. You should be able to speak Ryan: No, because I'm I'm I'm thinking about I'm thinking about what I Charity: Dang, I can't believe you're gonna miss invasion. That's crazy. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: Anyways. Ryan: No, something I wanted to bring up was 'cause we're talking about Jack and Odd or we we were talking about Jack and Oddfellow was on closing night the the director references I think that was one of the I Charity: Yes, yes, yes. Ryan: think that was one of the coolest things to see in a haunted house was see the 'cause I know in El Artista Oddfellow symbol showed up around somewhere in the end of the house and I was like, Oddfellow's Charity: Yeah. Ryan: gonna be there next year. That's really cool, but it's but like But it was cool to see that and it only showed up on the final night, then just this year with Jack and Oddfellow. Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: The director's stuff showing up with like the film reel showing up in the vortex tunnel, which which Charity: It was like a whole thing, yeah. Ryan: I think is really cool in the sense that like, okay, now I understand why the vortex tunnel was video. Cause they wouldn't have been able to do that if the vortex I don't think that was planned throughout the entire year. It could have been. It could easily have been. And them being like, but I'm saying, like, now I I I I like the vortex tunnel being video more and that. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: is now it it changes my my mindset of Charity: Set of it, yeah. Ryan: it from previously in the season, which I thought was really cool. And it was so cool. And if you went on closing night and you saw it and you know just how cool it is, it was like Charity: It was really cool. Ryan: flickering to black and white and there was the like the like the bleep bleep bleep of like the of like the start of Charity: But does it does it make sense story wise for it to be flickering like that? Ryan: So no because techn well yes, yes Charity: No. But just because it's Ryan: because technically Oddfellow is the one that brought all the icons out. They brought the icons out from the lantern. Oddfellow helped with that, bringing Caretaker and Cindy. Or I guess the Caretaker or Oddfellow helped bring Cindy back to life. Or something like that. I know the lore. Listen, I know the lore. It's late and I'm exhausted from closing weekend that my brain's not functioning properly. So that's that. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: And that's pretty chaotic. My light died at some point. And so now we just have a red light behind me instead of the instead of the purple Charity: So it's just the chaos. Ryan: light. So now it's now it's just the chaos. But yeah, that was so cool. And it definitely changed Charity: Yeah. Ryan: things and I hate that it only happened on the last night because it was one of the coolest things I remember going through first time on closing night and being Charity: Time, yeah. Ryan: like like I was in shock. Charity: You were so excited, you were like, Do you wanna see it? And I was like, Ryan: I know. Charity: No, give me a minute. We're b we were literally like what, a row away from going in and you're like Ryan: We were like we were we were two we were two rows, but yeah. So I it was it was so exciting. It's so Charity: Still, you're like, do you wanna see it? You're so excited. Ryan: it it was it's so exciting and so cool and cause it's so cool to like be able to see that and know and especially like now, we having more knowledge and into this event and like the behind the scenes of the event compared to previous years also makes it really cool 'cause it's like, my gosh, like director's gonna be the icon next year and the vortex tunnel has a camera rolling around the care the camera that was inside show of decay is missing the knock them down clown of the director is missing from his cage and everybody's like the director's the only icon that isn't seen at the event because you even have storyteller in the RIP tour. So what's going on? Where's the director? And then boom last day of the Which it was not what I was expecting. I was expecting, Oddfellow to betray Jack the Clown and kill Jack the Clown because it was James Keaton's last time playing as Jack the Clown, Charity: Yeah, yeah. Ryan: which is also what makes something this event this year really emotional is the Jack the Clown's last event. Charity: B J. Ryan: And who knows? This could be the last time that we see Jack the Clown until like It's like H H N fifty. Charity: Whoa. Calm down. Ryan: Half a century. H H N fifty would be half a century of H H N. And I feel like that Charity: Yeah. Ryan: would Charity: Dang, that's still a whole like Ryan: That's about Charity: Lifetime for us. Ryan: that's about twenty f twenty four no fourteen years. We're about to go into HHN thirty seven. So about thirteen fourteen we just got done with thirty six, fourteen years. Charity: We're going into thirty six. Ryan: We're going into th thirty six, yes, sorry. We're going into thirty Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: six, yeah, f so then fifteen years. Which is a lot closer Charity: Yeah. Ryan: to think about than Charity: That's crazy. Fifteen years. Are we gonna be friends in Ryan: Yeah, but I I f I feel Charity: fifteen years? Ryan: Who knows? Is this podcast gonna exist in fifteen years? Who knows? Charity: Is Universal Ryan: Anyways, Charity: gonna exist in fifteen years? Who knows? Ryan: Who knows? That's what but that's what I'm saying is if Jack the Clown comes back, I don't think he's gonna come back for a long time. Charity: Wherever you Yeah, not every five years anymore. Unless he does. Mm-hmm. Ryan: 'Cause Jack was the main icon. But I just I I could see it just 'cause I feel like I feel like Universal and Halloween Horror Knights is at this decline right now. And it I feel like I don't know. I feel like in five years we're gonna hit that decline and then the universe is gonna be like, Hey, what can we do to get pe bring things back? Jack the Clown's back. And then it's just like this never-ending cycle of having to bring back Jack the Clown, and then it kind of defeats Charity: To keep it Ryan: his it kind of defeats the purpose. But I'm hoping that's not the case and Halloween Hornets is not gonna go on a decline, and Universal's not gonna go on decline. And it's going to be years to come, and Jack the Clown's gonna come back. Maybe even ten years. Ten years is still crazy. HHN forty five. Charity: Yeah. Yeah. Ryan: But I feel like it would make sense for Charity: We'll see. Ryan: him to come it I feel like it would make sense for him to come back in fifteen years. Charity: What if he never comes back? That's the thing. He could never come back. Ryan: If he never comes back, that's crazy. If he never comes back, I feel like they would have to to never bring him back, they would have to kill him off. Like they would have to end his story. Charity: I don't think they have to kill him. I mean, it could just be Well, 'cause that's the thing, like if we see Oddfellow again, where's Jack? The last time we saw them they were together, w what happened with Jack? Ryan: Exactly. Which is why I feel like if okay, you're right. I Charity: Which I know James Keat I know James Keaton said he's not coming back as Jack but that doesn't but that doesn't Yeah. So it could just Ryan: He's retiring. But no, they could have other people play him. But Charity: be a shadow again in the house where they kill him off. Ryan: Well yeah, but I'm but I'm saying yeah and James Keaton could easily come back and play promotional. I think this is What this is I think it overall this could just be James Keaton saying, I'm done playing Jack the Clown in the parks Charity: Yeah. Ryan: Because that was really shocking that he played Jack the Clown in the parks almost every single night. Charity: Yeah. He was definitely dedicated and it's sad Ryan: And Charity: to see him go. Ryan: he's in his he's in his he's in his fifties now. He started playing as Jack the Clown when he twenty five. And it's twenty six years later. Charity: H yeah. Ryan: So Charity: So Ryan: I Charity: To be in good stand into universal that long is crazy in itself. Ryan: I just wanna say thank you, James Keaton, as Charity: Yeah. Ryan: for bringing such an iconic character. I mean, only I've only known Jack for five years now. Charity: Five years, yeah. Sit for thirty. Ryan: yeah, HHN thirty was the first time that I met Jack. I knew about Jack before HHN thirty, but I've only Charity: Yeah, but Ryan: I've only known Jack since HHN thirty. And so even though it's five years, it feels like it's been so long and Jack's clowns become such sh in Is it weird to say comfort character as Charity: No. Ryan: he's a murderous clown? Charity: No. Everyone's got their quirks. Ryan: But Charity: No, it's Ryan: Jack the Clown, Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I know it's I know it's cliche to like, Jack the Clown's my favorite icon, but Jack the Clown's my favorite icon. Could I be saying that as well because I've never met the other icons? Possibly. I know Pumpkin Lord. Pumpkin Lord's one of my favorites, but that's because I've experienced him. Charity: It's my favorite icon. Ryan: So could could the director be my favorite icon come next year? Charity: You would. You would have the director as your favorite icon. I Ryan: Well, the only reason that I would be like, I like the director is because of me being a film major and then it it it just it it correlates. Charity: I'm a film major. I like the director. Ryan: It correlates. But yeah, I just wanna say thank you to James Keaton. I wish I got to Charity: Yeah. Ryan: get a picture with him as Jack earlier in the season. I wish I was able to see him one last time and like thank him personally. Especially knowing that it was his end. I w I didn't know that he was not playing like retiring as Jack the Clown when I met him the first time, so Charity: Yeah. It wasn't wasn't until what, a couple of days ago that we got the news and we haven't really seen Jackson's. We did, we saw saw him once, but it wasn't yeah. Ryan: I got to see him. I got to I got to see him. Yeah. It was too crowd around him. But yeah. So that pushed o out of the the houses. There's other houses that I w yeah. Charity: But I think they kinda just went into our Yeah. Ryan: That are extras, but yeah. Charity: But don't worry, we will have a whole segment about the houses. So we can talk about all that then. But are there any other just experiences you want to talk about that we didn't on the podcast? 'Cause like I obviously we've talked about all of my great scares of H H N thirty five. But do you have any good scares or just good moments? Ryan: I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to think and I think my brain is really clouded by closing night just because I wanna bring up Cyber Gloria on Closing Night. The gauntlet had every single freaking scare actor in that gauntlet room and it was awful, but it was amazing. And Charity: Awful. I was terrified. It was so good. It was so good. Ryan: and like that, and like my my brain is really clouded by closing night Charity: Yeah. Ryan: just because It happened just a day ago. just a day ago we were Charity: Twenty f twenty four hours ago at this point. It is that yeah. Ryan: We were there and I think it was just and then closing night also is so foggy because of the rain. Like I like trying to remember everything that happened and I know I had such great run throughs through like Hellraiser, they they killed it. They won House of the Year. I don't think we brought that up. Hellraiser won House Charity: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think we mentioned that. Ryan: of the Year, Clown Town won Scare Zone of the Year. And well d Charity: I didn't I don't think I knew that. Yeah. Ryan: well well deserved on both of those. A Charity: Well deserved. Ryan: lot of a a lot of it it doesn't just have to do with scares. It doesn't just have to do with scares, it also has to do with operations and guest feedback and and s Charity: Yeah. It was a good house. Ryan: I it's it's well deserved. Charity: It was well deserved, yes. Ryan: I had so many good run throughs of the house. I feel like I wish I had more. And like I feel I it gotten to it got to the point this year where the the cast started to remember our faces and I think that was really cool Charity: They did, yeah. Ryan: 'cause we we got to get personal experiences with s with some of them. Charity: I know it was funny, every time I wouldn't wear my horns or something like that, I feel like w I wasn't recognized. But every time I was wearing my horns and going through houses, you could definitely Ryan: It's Charity: tell they were like, it's this scaredy cat again. Get her. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: Which was fun. Which Ryan: Like I Charity: it was like again, this this year was so different for me. Go ahead. Sorry. Ryan: No, I want keep keep going. I'm trying to I'm tryna grab something to say from My phone, but you're good. Charity: but no, I just Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna miss this year. So bad. I like again, it's still like it I know we talked about it already, but it still hasn't processed. That it's it's over. Like Ryan: No, it it hasn't processed. Charity: I'm so like I'm sad, but it hasn't processed and it it will on Wednesday. Like a hundred percent. Like wouldn't be surprised if Wednesday comes around and I'm just like where'd it go? Ryan: If you start seeing a spam on the on the Instagram stories of just photos from HHN, just know that we're like we're we're trying Charity: It's us trying to Yeah. Ryan: to cope. I guess well Wednesday is when this episode comes out. So if you you see it Charity: So yeah. Ryan: Yeah, one of my favorite the one of the clowns that I like I didn't know personally, but I think recognized me every single time was not their closing night. Charity: in the house? Yeah. Ryan: in the house for Jack and Oddfellow, the clown that right r the the second Charity: The second human jack clown. Ryan: Jack, the hum the second human jack that goes, And this fight was only the beginning. Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: And every single time they would like they'd be like Charity: They were like I know you. Ryan: And Yeah, and I I I don't know. I just that that made me sad that they were not there at all that night, or at least the run the three run throughs that we Charity: At least that yeah, the round things we did. 'cause yeah, no, it was but also but the like the odd fellows recognized us every time we went through. Both both of the ones that were Ryan: Yes. Charity: shoving Jack in and the one who does anybody know what happened with the leg? Where what happened to the leg? Did it just it just broke off? But I wanna know how Ryan: I think it just broke off. It just broke off. Charity: I I wish I could have seen the look on the odd fellow's face. when that had to have broken off, 'cause that's so funny. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: 'Cause I think the first time I saw that was just the other night and I was like, Where'd the leg go? Who took the leg? Ryan: No, I yeah, I remember realizing that it was missing sometime in Charity: Yeah. Ryan: the past like three, four weeks. There's some Charity: Wait, it's been missing for weeks? Ryan: Yes, it's been missing for weeks. Charity: No, I just noticed it days ago. Ryan: It's it's it's been I'm pretty sure it's been at least two two weeks. I could be I could be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me. Charity: One what yeah, one of us is wrong. But yeah. That's so funny. Ryan: But yeah, I did a total of a hundred and sixty run throughs this season. Charity: That's crazy. I wish I wish I could have kept keeping Ryan: Of all the houses. Charity: track of mine, but I didn't want to. Ryan: Which if that says anything. Last year I did a hundred and ten run throughs. And then the year before that I only did fifty. Charity: Name. Ryan: So I went a total of thirty two times this past this past season. Charity: And you did a total of thirty two through. Ryan: We'll we'll talk we'll Charity: Jack and our fellow. Well okay, well that doesn't mean anything. Ryan: I was we were just gonna talk about it in the in the Charity: we can retalk about it in the next episode. Ryan: We can, we we can, we can. But yeah. I Charity: But yeah Ryan: I don't know what else to say. I'm like I'm at this moment where I'm just getting Charity: We're starting to just get sad now. Now we're just really sad. Ryan: sad and I'm also getting really tired. And yeah, I I have nothing else to say about the event. I'm gonna miss it. I'm gonna miss all the experiences we had, like Scavenger Hunt. We talked about it last episode. This the Fear and Beer podcast Scavenger Hunt. We Charity: Yeah. Doing Fear Embarrass Yeah. Was was just such such fun, such an amazing opportunity. It was can't wait for the video to come out, all of it pieced together. I I wanna see everyone Ryan: Yeah no. Charity: else's other point of views. I'm just it was so fun. I wanna see all the fun to get Ryan: I'm just I just wanna see all of it again. I wanna be able to relive it. Charity: I yeah. being able to do a small collab with H H N three six five, that was amazing. Ryan: That was amazing. That was Charity: it was amazing, yeah. Ryan: Yeah, I've yeah, yeah, I just I was I've been a fan of three six five since twenty twenty two. And so being able to do that and Charity: Yeah. Ryan: do something with them? I don't know. It it's it's so surreal. we did a spin the wheel. the wheel dictates our night collab with HHN three six five. Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: I'm sorry three six five, but I don't remember your TikTok handle but if you look up page and three six five on TikTok, you will you can see part one for Charity: You'll find them, yeah. Ryan: you'll find them and you can see part one if you're if you wanna check it out. It's Charity: It's also on our page as well. We did collab with them on the yes. YouTube Ryan: It's it's reposted. We reposted it. Yes. It's on our YouTube channel. It's collabed on our YouTube channel. Charity: channel. Sorry, it's collabed on a YouTube reposted on our TikTok. Ryan: Yes. Charity: But it was Ryan: Yeah. Charity: it was such a fun night. And that's and that's what I was saying when it comes to viewing this year as content creators, it's so different than viewing it. Cause like, you know, being able to hang out with these people was s so much fun. and just viewing it differently than just going to get houses done. You know? Ryan: Yeah. I'm very I'm very I I'm very thankful for this year and all the everything. Charity: if that makes I don't if I w I word that right, yeah. But I so thankful for this year. And honestly, if it never happens again, I will be just so thankful for what we have. But I am so excited Ryan: For what we yes. Charity: to continue and see what else, you know, next year brings and what we do continuing on into the holidays. And I just I don't know. I I love our podcast, man. I love our ch I love everything we do. No, we're just kidding. Ryan: Now we're just now we're just getting we're now we're just getting sappy about the podcast and but no, I just I'm so thankful for HHN thirty-five and just everything that it's brought and There's just always gonna be something special about this year. And Charity: Yes. Ryan: getting now a shirt that says 35 to even just. remember that it's with H H N thirty five and I'm jibber jobbering and saying the most random things. B yeah, I think that's I think that's everything. Is that is that everything? Anything else? Charity: And yeah. Yeah. I I think I think that's everything. Unless you have any other stories that you want to tell from from the event, but I think we have covered Ryan: I think I'm gonna have to Charity: all of it. Ryan: I think I'll end up bringing them up in our rankings because be once we start once we actually like talk about specifics, it'll be easier for yeah, for houses. Cause Charity: For houses. Mm-hmm. Ryan: I feel like a lot of my great experiences were in the houses themselves. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: That I can't bring up without Charity: Says the boy who likes the scare zones more. Ryan: I do like the scare zones more. I do like the scare zones more. But yeah. Anyways. Charity: Do you wanna end this episode here and we continue on to our next one? Ryan: We can. I think that's gonna be it for this episode. If you Charity: Alright, well Ryan: we'll see you in the next episode. Charity: We will see you in the next episode, but we won't see ya in the fog. Ryan: We we won't see you in the fog. Charity: But thank y'all for joining us today. We will see you in the next episode. Please continue on. but if not, Ryan: Please continue on. Charity: make sure to follow us on Park Days Pod and both Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, everywhere. Ryan: if you're listening to this when the next episode is out, go check out the next episode if you want to hear our rankings. If you're listening to it when this episode comes out and the ranking episode is not out, be sure to stay tuned to our socials to hear when that will come out. Charity: Next episode, yes. Ryan: Next episode will come out. It w it will be sooner than the biweekly of you won't have to wait two weeks to hear our Charity: Yes. It'll rather be same day Ryan: Our rankings. Charity: or within a couple of days. If even yeah. Ryan: Yes. So Yeah. We'll see you in that next in that next episode. If not, we'll see ya on your next park day. Charity: But Ryan: Bye.