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- Lucas: You know that moment in a cold call when the executive assistant picks up and you feel your entire pitch just deflate? Luna: Oh, I do. And the instinct is almost always to try to go around them. Call early, call late, use a different number. Lucas: Right. And that instinct is so widespread that most sales training actually reinforces it. 'Get past the gatekeeper.' But I think that framing is not just outdated — it's costing us deals. Luna: Interesting. So what's the alternative? Because I've definitely made calls at 7 AM hoping to catch the VP directly. Lucas: Before we dive into the technique — and I promise this ties in — I want to share something. If this conversation has moved your work forward in some small way, we keep this show ad-free purely because listeners chip in. Honestly, if today was worth a coffee to you, that's the link — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: Yeah, it's a small ask that makes a big difference. And we're back to gatekeepers. Lucas: So the better approach comes from research by Matt Dixon and his team at TAS Group. They studied thousands of B2B sales interactions and found that reps who treat gatekeepers as adversaries actually close fewer deals. The ones who succeed treat them as decision influencers. Luna: That makes sense. But how do you actually do that in a ten-second window when they ask 'What's this regarding?' Lucas: You use what Dixon calls the 'Gatekeeper Thesis.' It's a three-sentence script that frames your call not as a sales pitch, but as an intelligence-gathering mission. The idea is you're asking for their help to understand the landscape before you waste their boss's time. Luna: Give me an example. Let's say I'm selling marketing automation software and I'm trying to reach the VP of Marketing at a mid-size company. Lucas: Perfect. So your first sentence introduces yourself with credibility. 'Hi, this is Lucas from Fexingo — we work with marketing teams on automation.' Short, no fluff. Luna: Okay, that's standard. What's the second sentence? Lucas: This is the key shift. Instead of 'I'd like to speak with her about our solution,' you say: 'I'm doing some research on how marketing leaders are handling pipeline velocity this quarter, and I was hoping you could help me understand if that's something your VP is currently focused on.' Luna: Interesting. You're putting the gatekeeper in the role of an advisor, not a barrier. Lucas: Exactly. And then the third sentence: 'If it's not a priority right now, no problem — I just don't want to waste her time. But if it is, could you point me in the right direction?' Luna: That's a very different energy from 'Can you put me through to her?' Lucas: It is. And the data backs it up. In Dixon's study, reps who used this approach were 40 percent more likely to get a meeting scheduled through the gatekeeper's referral than those who tried to bypass them. Luna: Forty percent? That's huge. But I imagine some gatekeepers are still suspicious no matter how well you frame it. Lucas: Sure. And that's when you lean into transparency. If they ask 'Are you selling something?' you say 'Yes, ultimately. But I'm not going to pitch your boss on the first call. I want to understand if there's a fit first, and you're the best person to help me figure that out.' Luna: That's disarming. Because you're being honest about the sales intent, but you're also respecting their gatekeeping role. Lucas: Right. The gatekeeper's job is to protect the executive's time. If you show that you're also trying to protect their time — that you don't want to waste it — you become an ally, not an adversary. Luna: What about the classic move of calling before 8 AM or after 6 PM to avoid gatekeepers altogether? I've heard some top reps swear by it. Lucas: I've heard that too. And it works — sometimes. But here's the hidden cost: when you bypass the gatekeeper, you lose a potential internal advocate. That executive assistant might have influence over the decision that you don't see. Luna: How much influence? I've always assumed it's mostly logistical — scheduling meetings, filtering spam. Lucas: In many organizations, especially in larger companies, the executive assistant is looped into strategic priorities. They hear which initiatives are getting budget, which vendors are being considered, what the boss is frustrated about. If you've treated them as an obstacle, they have no reason to share any of that with you. Luna: So the real play is to turn them into a source of competitive intelligence. Lucas: Exactly. And it doesn't require a long relationship. One well-placed question can unlock it. For example, after they set the meeting, you can ask: 'Is there anything you think I should know before I talk to her? Any landmines I should avoid?' Luna: You've had success with that? Lucas: I've had gatekeepers tell me things like 'She just had a bad experience with a vendor who overpromised on implementation, so don't gloss over that part.' Or 'The CEO is pushing for a quick decision, so she's under pressure.' That kind of insight is gold. Luna: It changes the entire meeting. You walk in knowing exactly what to emphasize and what to downplay. Lucas: Precisely. Now, let's talk about how to identify which gatekeepers are worth investing in. Not all of them have that level of insight. Luna: I imagine tenure matters. Someone who's been with the executive for years probably knows more than a new hire. Lucas: Absolutely. Also, pay attention to how they answer the phone. If they sound confident, use the executive's name naturally, and ask probing questions, that's a sign they're empowered. If they sound scripted or rushed, they might be a screening service. Luna: What about virtual gatekeepers? Like the generic 'press 1 for sales' phone tree? Lucas: That's a different beast. With a human gatekeeper, you have a relationship opportunity. With a phone tree, you need a different strategy — like using LinkedIn to find the executive's direct line or email. But even then, when you do reach a human, use the same approach. Luna: Let's go back to the script. You said three sentences. What if the gatekeeper engages beyond that? Asks more questions? Lucas: Great sign. That means they're curious. You can then have a brief conversation — but keep the focus on research. Ask them about the team's priorities, the size of the marketing team, what tools they currently use. But never pitch. If you pitch to the gatekeeper, you lose credibility. Luna: And if they say 'Just send an email'? Lucas: That's a brush-off. But you can still salvage it. Say 'I'll do that. And if I don't hear back, would it be okay if I followed up with you in a week to see if it's worth a conversation?' That keeps the door open. Luna: It also puts the ball in their court to remember you. That's smart. Lucas: One more thing: never, ever lie to a gatekeeper. If you say you're returning a call when you're not, that trust is gone forever. And gatekeepers talk to each other. Luna: So the overarching principle is respect their role, leverage their knowledge, and be transparent about your intent. Lucas: That's it. And the interesting thing is, when you do that, you often get more than just a meeting — you get a coach inside the account. Luna: I want to try this on my next call. I've been guilty of the early-morning sneak attack. Lucas: We all have. But if you can shift that mindset, you'll not only get through — you'll actually close more. Because the gatekeeper becomes part of your sales team. Luna: Let's wrap with a concrete takeaway. What's the one thing our listeners should do tomorrow? Lucas: Before your next call to a prospect with a gatekeeper, write a three-sentence Gatekeeper Thesis. Practice it out loud. Make sure it focuses on research, not revenue. And see what happens. Luna: I'm going to do that. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. And to our listeners — if that was useful, you know where to find the coffee link.