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Chargers Recap, Bengals Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we recap the Steelers heartbreaking
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  Speaker 1: loss in Los Angeles to the Chargers look ahead to
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  Speaker 1: their matchup at home against the Cincinnati Bengals, and then
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  Speaker 1: talk about the tush push and whether we think we
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  Speaker 1: would ban it or we would keep it. I'm Nick
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  Speaker 1: de Tulio, and as always I'm joined by the world
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  Speaker 1: famous accountant Eric vanmin showten. Eric. How's it going to night?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not too bad. Uh wife is out of town.
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  Speaker 1: I got.
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  Speaker 3: Both girls down, went pretty easy.
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  Speaker 1: Life is good there. You go nice and as long
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  Speaker 1: as they stay down, it sounds like you've got a nice,
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  Speaker 1: quiet evening ahead of you.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Let's let's emphasize the quiet.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna knock on wood for you. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: mean a jinx. You're right there, but no, it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm not sure how it is in Cincinnati, but
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  Speaker 1: it is uh pretty cold down here in Atlanta tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And I am not kidding. It was very brief, very
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  Speaker 1: very brief. But we actually had some snowfall when we
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  Speaker 1: were getting my kids off the school bus today, so it.
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  Speaker 2: Actually it snowed and on the roads it didn't stick,
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  Speaker 2: but it the grass is pretty much covered.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, so it's like the snow that's kind of pretty,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: There You go, Well, we're kind of gluttons for punishment here,
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  Speaker 1: so let's not talk about pretty things. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Let's talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers and the game
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  Speaker 1: they had in Los Angeles. It was a twenty five
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  Speaker 1: to ten final score, but that that last touchdown came
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  Speaker 1: in garbage time.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's frustrating to talk about because it seems
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  Speaker 1: this particular Steelers team more than any other in the
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  Speaker 1: ten years that you and I have been doing the show.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, I feel like it's been longer than that.
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  Speaker 1: When you have games like this past one, it does
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  Speaker 1: feel much longer, right, but more so than any of
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  Speaker 1: the other teams you and I have covered. It's you
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  Speaker 1: don't know which group of guys is going to show
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  Speaker 1: up each each Sunday or Monday. Wildly inconsistent, and this
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  Speaker 1: time for i'd say the first time all year. The
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  Speaker 1: offense was just terrible. They could not do anything right.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was missing some wide open receivers. He was
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  Speaker 1: hurried a little bit, which forced some bad throws on
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  Speaker 1: the very first drive of the game, he had dk
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  Speaker 1: Metcalf wide open and when I say wide oak, and
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  Speaker 1: he had a receiver trailing them, but as long as
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  Speaker 1: Rogers put the ball in front of him, there was
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  Speaker 1: no way the receiver could get to him. But he
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  Speaker 1: just overthrew him. And a really bad interception by Rogers
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  Speaker 1: and a tipped ball by Calvin Austen that went to
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers for another turnover. And it's just offensively, we
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  Speaker 1: finally got the defense where we think they should be.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the defense played a very commendable game other
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  Speaker 1: than a few missed opportunities, and this time it was
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  Speaker 1: the offense that just couldn't hold up there under the bargain.
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  Speaker 1: So again, we've been harping on the defense for weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Now the defense finally does what they need to do,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's the offense that we're kind of scratching
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  Speaker 1: our heads, like what went wrong here? So and I
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  Speaker 1: also want to point out too, they did get to
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  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert on defense quite a bit too, and he
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  Speaker 1: was actually been and had his ankles taped up. He
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  Speaker 1: was not a totally healthy quarterback. And the Chargers, I
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  Speaker 1: mean really, I mean they have twenty five points, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take that away from them, but
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  Speaker 1: the offense for the Steelers really did absolutely no favors
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  Speaker 1: for the Steelers defense, in particularly when you give those
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  Speaker 1: points off turnovers too, including a safety. So I'll just
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  Speaker 1: ask you, Eric, I know that you gave up on
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  Speaker 1: this game a lot earlier than I did, but looking
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  Speaker 1: back on what happened in LA yesterday, what are some
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  Speaker 1: of your takeaways?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think.
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  Speaker 2: That some of the armor on the offense was starting
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  Speaker 2: to crack last week. This is two games in a
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  Speaker 2: row we've had less than two hundred and fifty yards,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, I think in totality we've only had
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  Speaker 2: three games over three hundred yards.
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  Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of frustrating because, as you mentioned, we're just
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  Speaker 2: not really playing complimentary ball right now.
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  Speaker 3: When the defense finally gets.
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  Speaker 2: Their stuff together, and like you said, I think pretty commendable.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you're on the field thirty seven to
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight minutes of the game and.
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  Speaker 3: You give up twenty five points to a Justin Herbert
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  Speaker 3: led offense with their wide.
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  Speaker 2: Receivers, I think that that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: They did get to them five different times. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously twenty five points sounds like a lot, but not
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  Speaker 2: when you consider the positions that they were put into.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean just sloppy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, something that's very uncharacteristic about Rogers is that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't really he's not really careless with the ball.
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  Speaker 3: But and I don't know if it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just that stereotypical over forty years old. As the season progresses,
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  Speaker 2: these quarterbacks kind of fall off this cliff.
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  Speaker 3: But his play does seem to be indicative of.
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  Speaker 2: The you know, each week is he kind of getting works.
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  Speaker 3: And you know it's not just him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think our running game is particularly strong.
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  Speaker 3: We do have to line up.
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  Speaker 2: With like jumbo sets just to kind of get the
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  Speaker 2: edge and get that going. Jalen Warren did have a
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  Speaker 2: pretty awesome hurdle over the defender.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, it's just it's just tough. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to take.
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  Speaker 2: Anything away from Boz either, but like it was just
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  Speaker 2: one of those games that nothing was going to go
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  Speaker 2: right for us because even he missed a.
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  Speaker 3: Forty five yarder, which.
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  Speaker 2: A kicker occasionally missing a forty five yarder, you know
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  Speaker 2: it blinks an eye, but bos will also hit.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: He hit Like his first field goal was extremely long
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  Speaker 2: fifty nine, so like we're more likely to say, we're
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  Speaker 2: more likely to be surprised that he misses a forty
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  Speaker 2: five yarder that kicks almost a sixty yarder, So that's.
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  Speaker 3: Just more indictive of like, Okay, well.
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  Speaker 2: That was eventually bound to happen. But yeah, I just
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  Speaker 2: we don't play well on the West coast.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to use that is an excuse, but.
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  Speaker 2: It just seemed like, I think, like the defense it's
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  Speaker 2: been you know, when they were going through the rough time,
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  Speaker 2: I felt like uninspired. Now it just kind of seems
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  Speaker 2: like on the offense, it's kind of like a dearth
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  Speaker 2: of talent.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Like, we.
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  Speaker 2: Trade away Pickens, and that was kind of a questionable
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  Speaker 2: call at that time because we thought.
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  Speaker 3: We were getting Metcalf and Pickens to be explosive.
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  Speaker 2: We thought eventually we would replace him with a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: whether that was in the draft or in a trade prior,
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  Speaker 2: you know, someone right before the season starts.
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  Speaker 3: The trade deadline has now passed.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't pick anyone up other than.
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  Speaker 3: Scandling.
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  Speaker 2: Which I don't know if he'll play, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't see that's the trouble, I guess right now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see where like with the defense, it was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's seefy play up to their ability, but I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of seeing a glass ceiling when it comes to our offense,
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  Speaker 2: and that's troubling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the defense is the one is the unit
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  Speaker 1: that we and everyone else has said, Hey, you guys
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  Speaker 1: need to be elite, so that Aaron Rodgers in this
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  Speaker 1: offense just has to be average or above average to
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  Speaker 1: get these kind of wins. And I don't necessarily want
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  Speaker 1: to call the offense that we saw in the first
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  Speaker 1: portion of the year elite, but I thought that early
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  Speaker 1: on in the year the offense exceeded expectations for sure,
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  Speaker 1: and especially in the two losses, it was the defense
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  Speaker 1: that well, and the losses to the Packers and the Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: it was the defense that was wildly disappointing. And even
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  Speaker 1: in the wins they were wildly disappointing too. They gave
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  Speaker 1: up thirty was it thirty two points to the Jets
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  Speaker 1: in Week one. So yeah, it's just been frustrating because
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  Speaker 1: you think the defense finally gets their heads on straight.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a couple of good games, and it's the
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  Speaker 1: offense that now doesn't even have the ability to hold
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  Speaker 1: that standard of just being average. I actually read that
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  Speaker 1: if they didn't get that garbage time touchdown this past Sunday, statistically,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been the worst game of Aaron Rodgers' career.
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  Speaker 3: His stack by what metric?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, it was just just the base stat line. So
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  Speaker 1: if you look at his this is the stat line.
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  Speaker 1: He did have sixteen of thirty one with one touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: that garbage time touchdown, and two interceptions. So take out
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  Speaker 1: that touchdown, he's what fifteen of thirty so fifty percent
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  Speaker 1: completion with no touchdowns and two interceptions. Then factor in
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  Speaker 1: the sack for safety and it's just awful. So look,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be optimistic, you just say maybe it
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  Speaker 1: was a bad game. You look at last week and
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  Speaker 1: you say, well, yeah, they didn't have they had less
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  Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty yards, like you pointed out.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're getting turnovers six times, you have a
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  Speaker 1: shorter field, you know whatever. But no, I was just
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  Speaker 1: disappointed because there hasn't been a game that the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: couldn't win this year, and when they lose, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like it's just like when it rains, it pours.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, they lost on a last second
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  Speaker 1: field goal to the Chargers. No, it was they did
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  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing on offense against.
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  Speaker 4: The Chargers all game.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I do I mean, I saw Joey Porter
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  Speaker 1: dropped another interception that was like a pass straight to
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  Speaker 1: him that he dropped. Those are opportunities you got to
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  Speaker 1: get and that kind of was giving me PTSD back
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  Speaker 1: to those you know, three games in a row where
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have a turnover and we talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Not coming into the league. Was that he had like
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  Speaker 2: one interception in.
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  Speaker 3: College, so I mean he.
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  Speaker 2: That we kind of knew he had bad hands, I guess, or.
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  Speaker 1: Where if you will, Yes, But this was a particularly
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  Speaker 1: bad drop on his part. It was not contested. It
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  Speaker 1: was literally thrown right to him. But look, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers are sitting at five and four right now,
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  Speaker 1: The Ravens are breathing down their neck. The fact of
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  Speaker 1: the matter is, and I can't believe I'm saying this
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  Speaker 1: is if they can get their heads on straight, they're
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  Speaker 1: still in the driver's seat. It's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: easy because they've dropped a couple games that they should
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  Speaker 1: not have dropped. But they they are still in control
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  Speaker 1: of their destiny. But the fact of the matter is
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  Speaker 1: on offense, they've got one weapon and three tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: four tight ends. So they pointed it out on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: Having a second target would have been good, if nothing else,
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  Speaker 1: to draw something away from.
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  Speaker 4: DK Metcalf, But it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess what it comes down to is the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers just can't have one half of the ball have
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  Speaker 1: a bad game. They just everyone's got to show up
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  Speaker 1: all the time because when when they decide that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to take an off day, it's just bad. It's
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  Speaker 1: not even close. Yeah, all right, is there anything else
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  Speaker 1: you want to dwell on in Los Angeles? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not much to say other than defense did pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Offense kind of crap the bed.
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  Speaker 2: Well I have pointed out to you at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the game when it was.
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  Speaker 3: Three two or three to nothing and then we gave
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  Speaker 3: up a safety. We actually yielded. We're only up net.
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  Speaker 2: One points on offense because they gave up, so the
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  Speaker 2: defense really gave up three points, so.
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  Speaker 3: Making it worse.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do. Oh well, all right, Well, there
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  Speaker 1: you have it. The Steelers lose to the Chargers in
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  Speaker 1: LA twenty five to ten. This sets up a rematch
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  Speaker 1: at home against the Cincinnati Bengals. Interestingly enough, Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: was cleared to come off of the IR today. He
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  Speaker 1: will not be playing on Sunday, so we'll still see
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  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Trey Hendrickson is doubtful to return as well,
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  Speaker 1: which means that the Steelers have a very similar setup
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  Speaker 1: to the last time they played a couple weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, which means that the Steelers on paper, are
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  Speaker 1: the better team. The Steelers probably should win, but as
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  Speaker 1: we talked about, we're not really sure which Steeler team
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  Speaker 1: is going to show up this week. And we remember
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  Speaker 1: what happened last time where Joe flat beat the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: And when I say beat the Steelers, I mean Joe
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  Speaker 1: Flacco torched the Steelers on a short week and Jamar
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  Speaker 1: Chase had about thirty catches for five hundred yards. On
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  Speaker 1: his own, it was just under twenty catches for well
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. Look, I'm just gonna be honest here.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals defense is so bad that if if there
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  Speaker 1: ever was a game where the Steelers needed like actual
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  Speaker 1: game time experience to try to iron some things out
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  Speaker 1: and work some things out, this has gotta be it, right. Yeah, Look, well.
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  Speaker 2: It's our highest yardage output, highest points.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they scored more than the Jets game, but it
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  Speaker 3: was easier, easiestly.
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  Speaker 2: Our best offensive performance of the whole entire year was
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  Speaker 2: against his team.
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  Speaker 1: So correct, Yeah, that's where I'm That's where I'm going
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  Speaker 1: with the offense. They've got a good opportunity to try
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  Speaker 1: to work some things out, even though they've been playing
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  Speaker 1: well the last couple weeks. Defensively, I am concerned though,
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  Speaker 1: just because the Bengals do still have a good receiving core.
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  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and t Higgins are very good at what
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  Speaker 1: they do. They Joe Flacco is a very smart quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and I honestly, I if you put Aaron Rodgers on
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals, I think he'd be having a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a season too. Right if all you're doing is throwing
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  Speaker 1: slant routes to those guys, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers could have
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's got what sixty nine percent completion before
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  Speaker 1: last night's game. He could have an eighty percent completion percentage.
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  Speaker 1: So the defense is what concerns me here because not
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  Speaker 1: only did Jamar Chase and T Higgins just flame the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: the running game just demolish the Steelers. The Bengals had
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  Speaker 1: had the worst rushing attack all year, and then they
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  Speaker 1: play the Steelers and Brown goes for well over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred yards. So I am I'm gonna turn it over
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  Speaker 1: to you here in a second, but really I think
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  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna give the offense and Aaron Rodgers the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, say it was just a bad game,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put it back on the defense here
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  Speaker 1: to say that they need to step up from the
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  Speaker 1: last time that they these two teams met, and if
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  Speaker 1: they can do that, I think the offense is gonna
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  Speaker 1: hold up their end of the bargain this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about this game just because, look,
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals.
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  Speaker 3: Are a bad football team right now too. They they're reeling.
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  Speaker 2: My concern is that their offense is not the issue.
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  Speaker 2: If they think their offense is turned up, they counting
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  Speaker 2: our game, then the Bears and the Jets. They have
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  Speaker 2: three games over thirty points, so you know, they they
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  Speaker 2: are definitely turning up their performance there. It's just their
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  Speaker 2: defense is quite possibly one of the worst units in
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  Speaker 2: NFL history.
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  Speaker 3: So look in the defense we have. I would hate
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  Speaker 3: to say this and that it blows up in my face.
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  Speaker 3: We have kind of fixed our defense kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously now we got you know, we overcorrect it. Now
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  Speaker 2: we have another issue. But I think that, like our
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  Speaker 2: defense is the identity of the team and if we
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  Speaker 2: if I needed to choose one unit that needs to
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  Speaker 2: be kicking on cylinders to win games, I would choose
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  Speaker 2: the defense over the offense just because of how exceptional
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  Speaker 2: we can be if we are playing to our ability.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I didn't think that our offense would
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  Speaker 2: have been a top ten unit.
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  Speaker 3: At the beginning of the year anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So like this, in this game, we don't if it
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  Speaker 2: gets to thirty, we're done, you know, just like the
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  Speaker 2: last game. But if we keep this competitive, if we
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  Speaker 2: can keep Jamar Chase under one hundred and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: receiving yards, goddamn, that guy gets another one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty hundred and sixty yard game on freaking lose.
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  Speaker 3: It just triple team. I don't care. Like if we
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  Speaker 3: give up.
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  Speaker 2: If I have Bostka or whatever that guy's name is,
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  Speaker 2: has the best game of his life, they're not gonna win, right,
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  Speaker 2: But Jamar Chase can break open this game. So just
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  Speaker 2: shut down.
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  Speaker 4: Their main guy and.
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  Speaker 3: We will win this football game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. And let's not forget
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  Speaker 1: we heard all about it on Thursday night that the
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  Speaker 1: reason we've got Joe and Ramsey and Darius and made
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  Speaker 1: all these moves is for games like this, for those
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  Speaker 1: kind of guys. So I'm hoping that we see some
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  Speaker 1: semblance of a resistance on defense.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to like, Okay, we we picked
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  Speaker 2: up Ramsey, we're paying him cornerback money, but he's playing
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  Speaker 2: free safety. I still don't quite get that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he's injured.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know, like he's filling in for all the
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  Speaker 1: injured safeties.
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  Speaker 3: But like, well, I understand that, Like I I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you take your best player.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, you don't take Jamar Chase and put him at
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: running back because you're you know, you're down to running backs.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: You go out and you go find another person that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: schmo is gonna be better. And the replacement player that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: would be to fill in for Jamar Chase. The yeared
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in baseball all the time. Wins above replacement, don't. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: don't drive the Cadillac like a buick, you know.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I think it's the nature of
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: how many injuries they've had. So they had Thornhill, who
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was heart who I think they actually just released, but
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: then it was Deshaun Elliott was injured. They brought in
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Peppers he got hurt so and then they had some
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: more secondary issues last night with injuries too, So I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: think to the Steelers' credit, they tried not to do that,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: but at a certain point there aren't any There isn't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: anyone else to sign and bring up either. So yeah,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest with you. I was kind
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of thinking about this the other day too. The Steelers
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: hosted alumni Weekend last weekend when they had the Colts
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: in town, and there's like a hour and a half
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: long video of the dinner that they did that I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: would recommend you watch, and all of our listeners watch
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: too if you haven't, because for each round of the playoffs,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: they brought like three players or coaches up and asked stories,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and da da da da done. Dick Lebou is the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: star of the show. And the reason I am going
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole is because he was talking about
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: how against the Colts in that playoff game in two
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: thousand and five, they kept running a certain blitz package
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and the Colts just weren't prepared for it. And he said,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: sometimes they say, you don't want to call play too
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: many times in a row, because they'll figure it out
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and they'll beat you. And I'll and my response to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that is I'm gonna keep calling that play until they
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: beat me. And where I'm going with this is if
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I was Zach Taylor, I would and just pretend like
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: we're playing NCAA Football or Madden twenty five or whatever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm calling slants every single down until the Steelers stop it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, That's basically what they did in this Thursday
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: night matchup the first time. Right. That's why Jamar Chase
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: had like all these receptions, all these targets. And I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: noticed that too. Some of the big plays from the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Chargers were just some quick slants routes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: So well, it you know, it just becomes.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it's very frustrating because look like, I know
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you don't want to give up the big play. And
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I mean if you look at the stats right, like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: yards per row, yards per catch, Jamar Chase was at
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: ten yards per catch. That's not astronomical. He didn't have
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: a game break and maybe that was the strategy was
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: just keep it in front of you. But even in
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: front of you only works if you don't give up
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: five hundred yards in a game, like I'm sorry, like
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: that the bend not break only works.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You can't just completely.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Become soap bent out of shape that like you can't
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: even recover.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So look, if he comes to.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna double or triple team Chase and we
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: give up a big play, I can live with that because,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like you just we watched him beat us last time,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: so just don't let him go do it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Again, you know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've never been a big fan of the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: defense that, oh, we give up yards because we don't
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: give up points, like it's a trade off, and that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that has kind of come up against the Steelers, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I think Terra Austin's even said that at certain times too.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And this last game against the Bengals, I'm like, well, sir,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you did both. You gave up yard, You gave up
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of yards, and you did gave up a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: lot of points. And to what you're saying, I'm sure
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of big plays. I've blocked a
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: lot of that game from my memory. But it felt
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: like death by a thousand cuts.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like they were doing seventy five yard bombs
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: every play. It was again, it was slants for ten
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and fifteen yards repeatedly. Yeah, so all right, let's not
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: dwell on that. Let's talk get back to this game
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: here coming up up on Sunday. We kind of talked
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about it a lot already. But again, I think the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: defense steps up and we're fine. I think if the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: defense steps up, we're fine. I should say I am
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: just so pessimistic right now that I can't pick the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Steelers to win. I don't know. I guess I'm just
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: gonna go down the route of being a negative Nancy
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and let them prove me wrong all year hopefully. Yeah.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give the Bengals the win. I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be another close one. I'm going to say
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty seven Cincinnati.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I just I don't see this as the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Bengals team that sweeps the series.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I just don't think they're good enough.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And it just feels like again towm Loo's so good
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: at this gives you just enough.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: To hold on, just enough to hold on to hope, right, Yeah, And.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think that that's what's gonna happen again. You know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: just when we thought we're gonna hit the panic button,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: we got the Colts game, and then we got the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Chargers performance, and I think that he's gonna find.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: A way to be like, oh, well, now I beat.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: The Bengals and we're still a game above the Ravens,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, something's gonna fall out again.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So for one more week, I think.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Tomlin is gonna.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Prove why he is a five hundred or one game
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: above football character.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And that's the only reason why I'm giving him the one.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Let's know with in order for that to happen, they
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: have to play defense.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go twenty for twenty.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope that you're right. I hope that we
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: get a win here because I do not want to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: be swept by the Bengals.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: But.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Might have a lunch on the line because I told
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: somebody in the office, I will buy you lunch.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Actually, I said, I'll buy you lunch for every.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Game that the Bengals win, or hey, buys me lunch
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: every game the Steelers win.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So I don't want to buy two lunches.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have to go to McDonald's or something.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Now, all right, well there you have it. Eric thinks
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to pull out a win. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: am not as optimistic as him. We'll see which one
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of us is right. So, as we're recording this right now,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the Packers and the Eagles are playing on Monday night,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and I thought it might be interesting for us to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: talk about the tush push because it's become the most controversial,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: i'd argue, the most controversial topic in the league, not
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: just the most controversial play. But the Packers are really
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the main team that has been a vocal, vocal opponent
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: of the tush push, while the Eagles, of course, are
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the team that has made it famous. In his really been,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, pushing that because they've
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: had Jalen Hurts under center, and then for a long
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: time they had Jason Kelsey as the center too, so
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: one of the best centers of all time. So we
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: just thought it might be kind of fun to talk
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: about it, our thoughts on it. Would we ban it
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: if we had the choice, So, Eric, I guess we
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: can start with this here. The tush push has become
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: really ingrained in the league, and it seems like there
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: are teams that are for it, there are teams that
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: are against it. It seems like there are a lot
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: of officials who can't stand it as well. But I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: guess let me just ask you upfront for your thoughts
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: on the tush push in general. Do you like it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Do you dislike it? What would you do with it
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if you were the NFL commissioner for a day with
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: unlimited power.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it's one of those things that, like, there's so
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: many things about the league. They say that they do
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: things for the sake of safety, and if you're going
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: from a safety angle, it's a horrible play. Like there's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of bodies.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you take twenty two.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: If you take twenty two guys weighing the average two
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds, that's a lot of weight all
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: up in one area.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: So I from that sake.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I I don't like it, but I'm very much a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: proponent of like it's football, it's a it's a it's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a quarterback sneak with a little bit of a wrinkle
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of a difference.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not so terribly different.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: It's just execute it by one, you know, and it's
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: been an innovative play. You know, if the wildcat took
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: off and became an innovative play.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Would you ban a running back from throughout, you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: taking a a snap? I I would keep it, but
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I would make a proposal to repeal another rule. Right.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So I just actually watched it. It drives me literally bonkers.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: There was a play and I think the Vikings Ravens
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: game where the defensive player landed on Lamar Jackson as
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: he sacked him, and they called him for unnecessary roughness.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: There was like he didn't like.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Lift up his legs and pile drive him. He just
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: formed tack into the ground. And I think what I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: remember seeing this with Cam Hayward one time, and if
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: we're gonna like the player safety angle, then like ban
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the toush push. If we're not gonna go the player
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: safety angle, that's the first thing that I'm saying, uh,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go with, is well, then now the defensive
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: players to land on the gosh darn quarterback because it
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: drives me nuts. They do everything to protect the quarterback
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: and do nothing to protect the defensive players. So it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: kind of I hope that provides a perspective of my view.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It does, and that rule you're talking about is more
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: or less just that when you tackle the quarterback, you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: can't land with your full weight on them, and we've
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: actually seen it is and we've seen some defensive players
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: get hurt trying to avoid that flag because you got
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to position your body awkwardly and anyway, I can't remember
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the guy's name, but I do remember this as you
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: This came to my mind as you mentioned that rule.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think the first year that that rule was implemented,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we still had Big Ben and it was a Monday
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: night game, I think it was against the Dolphins, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the defensive tackle that the Dolphins had just happened to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: be the guy that was miked up for the game,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and they called him for a roughing the passer for
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: that exact or unnecessary roughness for that exact scenario that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you were outlining, but they went back and listened to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the microphone and he was like screaming the whole time.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, ah, sorry, Ben, didn't mean to just apologizing
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to him time. So to your point, yeah, it is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It's difficult when you've got to change your how you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: play the game to avoid penalties like that. And it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: even funnier and kind of say it at the same
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: time when you're aware of it in the moment.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: But you can't stop either.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: As for the tush push the thing, I do agree
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: with you. It seems to me like, oh, here's a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: play or I wouldn't even call it a loophole. It's just, oh,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: here's a situation that a team found and that's favorable
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: for them, and they do this anytime it's third and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: short or fourth and short. We obviously must ban this,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Like why, yeah, I really, I don't think I've heard
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: player safety get thrown out once and for the reasons
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: why certain teams are against it. Like you said, it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: just a modified quarterback sneak. And I'm not one to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: defend the Eagles on anything, but yeah, I look at
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that and I'm like, okay, well, if you don't like it,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: stop it or do it yourself like it's not It
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: feels like banning it would just be an overreaction in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: my mind.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Do you remember usc notre Dame Matt Lioner.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Reggie Bush on the goal line.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Do you remember this game?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And okay, Matt Lionard is not Jalen Hurders. And I
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: remember at that time Reggie Bush pushed Linard into the
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: end zone.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: And I remember there's a big thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: About that, and I think there was a rule you
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: weren't technically allowed to do that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Correct from the.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Naked eye, I said, how was that different than when
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: a running back is getting.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Stood up in a pile and gets pushed.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Forward for you know, so you don't lose forward progress? Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and so I think the toush push is a lot
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: like that. It's just baby like that, you know.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it is. And if we're talking
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: about player safety, the situation that you just described with
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the running back getting just sandwiched between five defenders and
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: four offensive players is not safe either. That's just like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: thousands of pounds of force just smushing you if you're
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the running back.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of times those guys feet
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: aren't even on the ground anymore, they're just getting lifted up.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's always funny when you have to explain
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the forward progress rule to someone who's a not a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: big football fan, and you're like, well, without forward progress,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: if you had a little running back, like or a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: shorter running back, you could just get someone on defense
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: literally pick the guy up and just walking backwards. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that's why you don't do that. But again, going back
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to the tush push itself, No, I'm glad you and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I are in agreement that we would keep it. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: do it. It reminds me of so many things like
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: when play when people were complaining about like the Patriots
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: running up the score, and it's like, dude, this is
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Just stop it. If you don't stop it,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: if you don't like it, I don't know what to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: tell you, like, get over it. So anyway, all right,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I think that does it for the tush push. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: was thinking that you and I might have some disagreements somewhere,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: but we're pretty much in lockstep. We just can't agree
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: on whether or not the Steelers are going to win
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: or not, but we'll get back. We'll get back there someday.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: All right, Was there anything else you wanted to talk Well,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: there was one other thing I was going to talk
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: about to today. Yeah, don't know if this was something
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: that you were going to mention or not. But the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Giants fired their coach Brian Dable today. I believe their
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: record is two and eight right now. And someone posted
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a stat it said playoff wins since Brian Dable became
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants. Brian Dable won Mike Tomlin zero. Yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I never want to be the guy calling
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: for someone's job, but you know, it's not just us,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it's those cheers, if you want to call them cheers.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: That noise is only going to get louder. If the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: season continues to progress like this, and if they can't
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: win a playoff game, then just I think we know
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: what will happen, but it'll just be it'll be hard
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: for the ownership to ignore the longer it goes like this,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: is what I guess I'm getting at.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing I have to say about it, really.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Is do you play this game so that you can
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: win nine or ten games a year consistently? Or do
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: you play it so that you have a chance to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: win a super Bowl, and for me, it's I would
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: rather go to the Marlins route, which is be average
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: to not good every once in a while, but just
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: sneak a super.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Bowl win out there. It's just every once in a while.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And you know, I know that people will say, well
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Tom win won one. Yeah, when I was in high school,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I just no. I mean, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: will say, like, yeah, Helen another job fun.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool, Like Andy Reid went to the Chiefs
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and then that went pretty well for him. But like,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: and you know, I also we're from an alma mater
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: where like every coach that leaves our school people always
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: are so jaded and get so pissed off, and that
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: drives me nuts. I would wish Tomlin extreme. Well, I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: would hope that he would go on to a place and.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You know win.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Obviously I would be you know, like if if he did.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: The Mike Cronin thing where he like pretty much won
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: his first year, I would probably be a little bit.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Like what the heck man would have done that with us.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: But at the same time I think that like I
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: feel happy, but you've contributed it, But.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Man, I think it's it's better for us to.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Go our separate ways, and.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And even if, like to me, unless Tomlin wins.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: A playoff game, my tune has not changed, and that
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: is I'm mine with him, relieving his services one.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Way or another.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I think, I'm I'm with you now. It's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: taken me a long time to get here, but but yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I something's got to give. The thing that you said
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that stood out to me is do you want to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: win nine or ten games a year?
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Go for the championship?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And the thing that frustrates me is in all of
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: these nine and ten win years, we have games like
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: this season against the Bengals or against the Packers that
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you are Seahawks, that you probably could have should have won,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: but you drop them. So you should be an eleven, twelve,
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  Speaker 1: thirteen win team, which would then set you up better
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs and all that good stuff. But now
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I'll always give him a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of the benefit of the doubt, just because I
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  Speaker 1: do think there are things that ownership could be doing
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  Speaker 1: differently too. I think that they need a better staff.
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  Speaker 1: I think they need some better facilities. I think they
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  Speaker 1: need a field that is exclusively theirs. Things like that
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  Speaker 1: is what I would place on the ownership. But so
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  Speaker 1: even though that may not be his fault, there are
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  Speaker 1: some things that he should still be able to impact,
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  Speaker 1: like picking better coordinators things like that. And everyone goes
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  Speaker 1: to the Andy Reid scenario, and I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: would turn out quite like that, just because it literally
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  Speaker 1: could not have gone better for both parties in that
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  Speaker 1: situation like that, that's as good as it will ever get.
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  Speaker 3: But that people playing each other in the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that's the other thing too. If they just
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  Speaker 1: didn't play each other in the Super Bowls, they could
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  Speaker 1: have each had one more ring too, But they've eat
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  Speaker 1: One group had two and the others got three. So
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  Speaker 1: I saw that to say, that doesn't mean they can't
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  Speaker 1: have success if they do part ways. And I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: I would wish him nothing but success, And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's necessarily like I think sometimes things just get stale.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's been he's the longest tenured coach in
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  Speaker 1: the league. This is what twentieth or nineteenth year with
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  Speaker 1: the team. I know that the players love him, and
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  Speaker 1: that counts for something too, But I mean, something's just
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  Speaker 1: not right when we feel like we're watch the same
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  Speaker 1: story every single year, and I think, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was talking or thinking about this the other day too.
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  Speaker 1: We have I feel like we owe a lot to
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  Speaker 1: Roethelsberger for all those years too, because he even at
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  Speaker 1: the end when he didn't have the arm that he
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  Speaker 1: used to kind of like we're talking about with Rogers
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and with Flacco this year too. He
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  Speaker 1: was a good leader and he was well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say he was a good leader. He was
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  Speaker 1: a smart quarterback. So there was games that they won
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  Speaker 1: that they probably shouldn't have won because he knew what
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  Speaker 1: he was doing. He knew how to tell the offense
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  Speaker 1: what to do, and I think that masked a lot
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  Speaker 1: of some of these issues that maybe have been there
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  Speaker 1: longer than we've realized. Now. Again, whether Big Ben hung
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  Speaker 1: on too long or not is a different topic altogether,
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  Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about that the other day
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  Speaker 1: as I was watching all this alumni weekend stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I wonder how many seasons
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  Speaker 1: like this we would have had if Ben had retired
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  Speaker 1: early or had decided he was going to go to
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  Speaker 1: another team. And you know, anyway, this last game aside,
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  Speaker 1: it's been nice to see some of that quarterback play
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  Speaker 1: that we're not used to seeing for the past couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, So all right, well there you go.
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  Speaker 1: So the Giant's job is open. If Mike Tomlin wants that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd take him. But anyway, all right, I
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