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What Can Congress Do For College Football? · Run After Cast: The College Football Podcast

• RAC Aaron: Welcome back to Run After Cast, the college football podcast. I'm Aaron, joined as usual by Ryan and Chandler. RY4N: Hey guys. RAC Aaron: And today talking about 'cause was thinking about the news. All right. And today, not today, it's this week. And this week, we wanted to cover some of the top quarterback ranking lists that have been put out there, give our opinions on it, see if we agree, disagree, have thoughts on wherever quarterbacks being placed here. But before we get into those rankings, we're gonna take a quick step over to the Raction News Desk with our two usual Raction News anchors. Who will not be presenting the news today because once again, they didn't do any work. I did it this week. I'm telling you what's going on in the sports world. So I know y'all are aware of this, but the big news this week was Saban sitting down at the congressional hearing and giving some thoughts about the state of college football and what Congress should be doing about it, which is a wild story to really think about. RAC Chandler: Yeah, I mean getting Congress involved in arguably one of the biggest entertainment revenue streams in the world, if not is crazy. Like they have a lot of other things they should be doing and prioritizing other than fixing ⁓ college football. But hey, we're here talking about college football, so let's bring it on. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I I mean it's not the craziest idea. I think bringing Nick Saban in is a good voice to bring in there. I I think if somebody is gonna talk about the changes, things like that, he seemed like he came at it very reasonably. Cause this was all for the save let me read it again, n the name of that bill. This is the Protect College Sports Act, which I mean, seems like a pretty targeted name for a congressional act there. But just to cover it of like what this is talking about, overall this about limiting athletes to transferring schools only one time without penalty, limiting athlete eligibility to a maximum of five years, prohibiting former professional athletes from playing in college, prohibiting schools from poaching a coach from another school during the sports season. And those are kind of the big Points. I haven't read the fine text of it. I'm not that dedicated. I'm not a reaction news anchor. That's y'all's job. ⁓ but ⁓ I think those things are a couple of things to address there. I think those are, you know, the transferring thing, good idea. Solid concept of one free transfer, five years of eligibility. I think we've seen some chaos in the last few years because we've had people playing since COVID, which Hey, during that time it was wild. We had some loosey-goosey rules to make up for it. That's all right. But I think now we do have to come in here and get some official language down. ⁓ w RAC Chandler: Absolutely. I mean Ohio State, using them as an example, they have a running back this year coming on their team from Florida who is a seventh year senior. I mean, this guy is older than some of the two, three year guys in the NFL. I it's it's unbelievable that there's no rule on RAC Aaron: Yeah. RAC Chandler: Just how long you can be in college in general. I mean, I understand medical years, I understand all that kind of like coaches firing, getting transferred, red shirts, all that stuff. But at some point there's a safety aspect of it too, that like these are grown men playing against seventeen or eighteen year olds that are just out of high school and one is not gonna mesh well with the other. So it is I think five's plenty. I think you give them RAC Aaron: Yeah. RAC Chandler: five years that gives them the extra year of eligibility on top of the four they're already in school. They do what they can. If their coach gets fired, if they need a transfer, they still have that in the pocket. They go that helps out with recruiting out of high school, because if you're only allowed one without penalty, then you're gonna take that more seriously. The recruiting trail is gonna get a little more fine tooth combed to make sure you find your right guys because you know they're gonna be in your program for a long time and and same thing on the other side of the ball. the guys that are recruit are getting scouted by these teams, they're gonna take it more seriously because hey, like they don't want to make the wrong decision. They're not just gonna follow the money anymore because they can only transfer once. So at some point the player development has to be a factor and getting to the next level, getting to the NFL. So if they can only transfer once, then they're gonna take that to heart a little bit more and not just be like, hey, this school's paying me a hundred thousand dollars more, I'm gonna go there. Because that school might not develop you as well as the other school. So I think Overall th five years is gonna be a lot more of a help than a hurt if it does come into fruition. RY4N: I think the one transfer year too is pretty good like the one free transfer is pretty good. Because I feel like it's almost to the point where like as a freshman, it's not so much as appeal, but like I'm just gonna get as much money as they're offering me as a freshman, I'll transfer my next year. You know, it kinda buffs ⁓ up a little. And how you're talking about the age thing, we get Indiana last year. They had one of the oldest average ages in the whole country and they went one and they're like, ⁓ I have like this Mitfit misfit roster, but then you got people like Derek Owens at Tennessee, you know, developing these guys for six years and giving up a bunch of muscle and stuff. But they're all just huge. And I saw one of the things Nick Saban was talking about. He said you have twenty-five, twenty-six year olds competing with eighteen year olds, and they put a picture of Will Anderson. They showed Will Anderson coming in as a freshman to him now, and he's just a house. He looked like double the size of college Will Anderson. But Will Anderson went to Alabama. I think it's good Nick Saban is here talking about this. He has decades of experience. ⁓ paying college athletes. So only since NIO's only been around six years, he has the most experience paying athletes. So it's great that he's in there. Also, great that he's there. ⁓ 'cause you talked about the professional sports ⁓ athletes not being able to come to college. Alabama had a basketball player last year from the G League who played for a while. So that's kicking him out there too. It's pretty good. So I think he was a a good one to be there. RAC Chandler: Yeah, and the it's mi it's interesting that you bring up the Will Anderson thing because it's true. I mean, some of these kids like Aaron's talked about in previous episodes and like you talked about, Ryan, these kids are coming in. I mean, in high school, yes, you have the strength and conditioning program for your s your teams, but you're not dialed in on nutrition. You're not taking it super, super serious. Some people are, but I would I would say vast majority probably are not, especially compared to the collegiate level. And once you get to college, you get in these big programs, SEC, Big Ten, all these big P4 schools, and e even outside of that, but just P4 school specifically for this discussion, their nutrition and all this kind of stuff is gonna be a lot better than any other program or any other high school that they've been at. So they're gonna be taking it seriously, they're gonna be eating right, they're gonna be training right, they're gonna be so down to the wire of what they're eating and doing, that it's just they're gonna blow up over freshman to senior year. It's just how the body works. RAC Aaron: I just think it's important to keep that perspective of like we're in the gym most days. We see kids that are 16, 17, 18 who are locked in. They're working, they're pushing serious weight around. But then if we go look at the 26-year-olds doing the same amount of work and the difference in weight that they're moving, it it's just a body composition point of like your body's matured, you have grown, you know, those kids putting in muscle. It's it is. almost a hazard to put two age groups with that much of a gap against each other. Now, you know, a senior, a five fifth-year senior going against a freshman, sure, but it's not that drastic of a difference. We're not talking a decade. It's, you know, five to six years ⁓ with exemptions, things like that that can happen, which that's another reason I don't mind the five year cap on this. Because I think if somebody does need a waiver or something like that, you have a hard rule that can be petitioned. RAC Chandler: Of course. RAC Aaron: And for the NCAA to make special exemptions off of. But if we just have it un or unwritten, then we're just kind of making things up as they go. Meaning, to me, that says whoever pays the most to get what they want done. And I think having just some rules here, I I don't necessarily think it's gonna solve everything. I don't think it's great. Nick Sabin brought some great ideas to it, basically saying. You know, a this is the NIL blew up. I believe he said that like when he started that first year NIL, they had 2.7 million in NIL, and he's like, now they've got teams over 40, and that's just six years of it. So it's not that's that's pretty exponential. I think we're gonna see schools starting to get in trouble financially with the promises that they're trying to get here. And I think there just needs to be some addressing. I don't know how much this will contribute towards NIL or anything like that. I think he's just bringing some stuff to the table, maybe just some. Nick Saban old man grievances that ⁓ he has, but I do think he made some great points. RAC Chandler: think one of the big draws of why I like college football more than NFL has been the love of the game is still very present and relevant in these kids when they come into college. ⁓ and then NFL is like, you know, paycheck, draft picks, draft stock, you know, you don't see as much intensity and just raw like energy through these guys. and I think as the paychecks get bigger and the Wild West scene kinda grows. It's just merging closer and closer to that NFL esque. Like once they get out of high school, once they turn eighteen, I mean they can start being a multi millionaire quickly. ⁓ and then maybe football's like still pretty relevant in their brain, but like it's like, hey, I can go and kinda weasel my way around and kinda and get a seven figure deal, that's gonna be more important to them. And rightfully so. I mean, get the money when you can get it, but There's gotta be some kind of cap on it at some point because like you said, schools are gonna be hurting, the rawness of the game is gonna dwindle down. ⁓ it's just it's getting out of control. But on the same vein, if these kids are already making a ton of money and these rules get instated while they're still in contract, then what happens to that? They're like, Hey, you already promised me this money, you can't you you're not just gonna take it away. RAC Aaron: Yeah. I mean, they they would have to have a grandfathered system that's gonna be like, you know, these are there are contractual obligations, they just can't write new ones. But that's something I think yeah, I mean, it's gonna be something that I think and if I think tackling the transfer issue first will help settle the NIL issue. It's not gonna correct it, but I think the biggest issue we're seeing is that NIL becomes transfer fuel. RAC Chandler: I mean they already are. RAC Aaron: And now we are seeing p kids that are playing at four or five different colleges throughout there. And that is, as you said, I watch college football for the development. I watch watching or I love watching a team reinvent itself over and over again and the program that gets built around that. But if we are losing that spirit, I ⁓ we've talked off mic before about like I think they do need to have that free transfer because th there are things that change. If you know, a powerhouse comes in at quarterback right behind you and Now you're not going to get the chance, you know, that one free gets you to a program that you might have a chance to be first up. And that's fine. You know, there are those issues that can come through. But I do think after that, it costs a year of eligibility to transfer and they take it off of the end of your playing of those five years. So if you transfer your freshman year, that's your free or right after your freshman year, that's your free one. If you transfer from sophomore between sophomore and junior, then that one comes out and now you only have two years left of eligibility. So you don't get to play all the way into the final senior year. You'll just play that. And I think that would help keep seniors as part of the team, the team that you have developed in the talent that is there next up for next year aren't going anywhere because they would lose their eligibility and they wouldn't be able to play. So I think it it helps lock in that final team composition preseason. RY4N: Yeah, and you're still just like ⁓ sorry. Yeah, and you're gonna be a lot more timid to transfer cause you're like, I only really have one. And it probably should have been like that anyways, 'cause back in the day when you had to sit a year it was kinda hard, but there like is problems sometimes when you actually have to transfer and it's not really up to you. When there's kinda gonna be a middle ground here where it's some of that some like I just wanna leave kind of thing. But I think it's RAC Chandler: And I am at No you go. RAC Aaron: Well, and I I I agree with you. I think sitting a year is way too harsh of a punishment. When we're talking at this level, sitting a year, you're gonna pretty much be starting over. I mean, ⁓ we see it from injury all the time. If somebody sits, you know, two games into the season, gets injured, and they're out for the rest, they're gonna spend that next year at least just recovering and just like getting back up to speed. So having just somebody sit on the bench. RY4N: Mm-hmm. RAC Aaron: That's rough. That's way too much. I just think like there are times to transfer. There are things that come up. We can even say outside the money side, you know, somebody wants to be closer to family that might be needing them closer at home. Things like that happen. And that free one's there for it. If they do need to go after that, it I think it just camps down that like, well, we're gonna offer you fifty thousand dollars more in ⁓ incentive to transfer. It makes it a bigger leap for somebody in a bigger gamble. RY4N: Yeah, that's what I like, 'cause thing sorry. Yeah, that's what I like, 'cause there is real things that happen sometimes that you need to have that one transfer open for. But yeah, now if you do it a second time you have to sit like it's totally on you. That punishment does suck. So it's like good that they're implementing it. I kinda like it. RAC Chandler: I think. And there is, like you said, like a coach gets fired. Like if that's the guy, like Caleb Downs went on a podcast with his brother recently and said, Hey, I went to Alabama because I wanted to play for Nick Sabin. That was the guy. Once he retired, it turned back into high school recruiting for him and he opened the door and he went to Iowa State ⁓ and you know, played there the rest of his college career. But things like that, like if your head coach leaves, your position coach leaves, somebody that that brought you in and recruited you out of high school I can see a transfer there because that doesn't happen every year. That's not ⁓ well, maybe last year coaching carousel happened, but for the most part, that usually does not happen, especially for these higher end guys that are leaving that you're seeing in the portal now because they're just chasing this kind of money. So, I mean, yeah, like you said, family, money situations, coach gets fired. Like there's obviously gonna be medic there's medical gears, like all that kind of different stuff. What I'm curious about is I think red shirts will go away. So that'll be interesting to see that not be a thing anymore. RAC Aaron: Which RY4N: Wait, is that for sure? RAC Aaron: Not RAC Chandler: I would assume if you're just gonna give everybody five, then there's no point in your redshirting. It doesn't help you. RY4N: Yeah, I guess. RAC Aaron: Yeah. And I, you know, I I do think that red shirting's weird. I I get why we have it. You know, okay, you can you can take a couple snaps in a season and not have it count towards your eligibility. But I also think that makes the math start to get very weird ⁓ when we're talking about how long they've been playing and when they've done it, and very calculated. And I think there's that it it removes a little bit of that coaching side of it of think like like I've mentioned before, we're paying the coaches a lot more now. We should expect more on that decision making in the game of like when do I pull him? When do I start giving my young guy snaps? Am I in a comfortable position to do that? Is that the game I do that here? Instead of saying like, well, he can take four snaps a season and then it doesn't count against me. And that's that to me always sat weird. Like it just I they need the in-game snaps, but at the same time I think it's just having them sit there and take a couple who cares snaps because you know they're not intense moments. They're just in the the parade walk down, wave at the crowd moments. RAC Chandler: And if you know there's redshirt ability from like a say a quarterback battle, if you know that your incoming freshman's gonna redshirt most likely, but he's still gonna come in there and take a few snaps here and there, coming in a blowout, whatever. But if he's a really talented guy that comes in behind you and you're expecting him to redshirt, but then he's not, like the redshirt is taken off the table. That creates a more battle situation for that QB1 spot because if that guys like, hey, this is my first year of eligibility. I'm gonna battle for this spot because I'm not I don't have a redshirt. Like I just have five. So I think that'll bring more competition in those rooms as well and make people compete for their job a lot more. RAC Aaron: Yeah, and then when we take that ⁓ go, sorry. No, no, no, you take it. RY4N: Yeah, we No you're good. ⁓ yeah, we had two ⁓ weird red shirt situations last year where Domari Alston, the running back that was rotating with Jeremiah Cobb, played a couple of games and then like something happened, they're like, ⁓ he had like an off field issue, he's not playing this week, or like is he hurt or whatever, and he dressed out and not play and I guess he asked Hugh Freeze if he could have a red shirt and then Hugh Freeze said no and then just kicked him off the team. 'Cause he was like didn't want to waste another year of eligibility, realized he wasn't actually doing that good. And then the same thing with Ashton Daniels. We didn't play him the entire year. Cause you can play in four games, but if you like take a snap in four different games, you take it away. So we ended up playing him Arkansas game, Kentucky game, Hugh Freeze gets fired. We're like, Okay, we have th three games left, you know? So we just were like, should we let Deuce play in the Mercer game? Whatever, we need Ashton for Alabama, we need to look for next year, we're keeping Ashton Daniels next year. So it's just kind of a weird like those situations are weird 'cause you're not actually looking at like the true freshman aspect. You're just like, I'm trying to get my extra year eligibility kind of thing. RAC Aaron: But I think another point that when Nixon was sitting down talking about this, we were doing a little bit of a or we were having a take on the idea of like, why does Congress need to be involved here? For the most part, I don't think they do. Like we're we're an entertainment sport that really we could just have rules by the overall organization. I do think there's one critical element that they need to have a legal precedent for. And that is the court situation that we're seeing. And I think that's the thing that's really hurting the sport the most is we are losing control of all of these aspects because as soon as a school does not get what they want, they are taking college football as a whole to court. They're taking the NCAA all every time. The whatever committee, they're just getting summons. And it's it's tough. Because I think that's something where it's like it's a drain. So I think they're giving in more and more and more. And it's we're just seeing schools kind of just getting a little more belligerent with their programs of saying, like, what can we do? We've not to beat a dead horse that we've been talking about, but look at the Brandon Soresby situation. Like everything they're doing has become a legal issue for whether or not this kid should be playing when it's a clear, like you can't gamble on your sport. That's a one two rule. He got caught gambling on the sport. He shouldn't be playing the sport. Yet we keep hearing about it because they're going through the legal process over and over again. RAC Chandler: And it all comes back to money. I would be curious to see, like, if there was some kind of graphic or somebody did a study on it, like how many players or teams or organizations in college football ever went to court on some legal battle pre NIL versus how many have gone to court post NIL? Because all of this is just circled around people getting paid. If money was not involved in this sport, would never happen. But the money keeps going up. RAC Aaron: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. RAC Chandler: And the legal problems keep going up with it because gray areas keep forming. And they will never stop forming until we kinda hone in on these rules like we're talking about. RAC Aaron: Yeah. And and I think we need to make sure that when we have like these college football rules and we're talking about these things, I kind of like the simplicity of this to get that in there. Because what we don't want to do is kill all the other college sports for the sake of college football. There's a lot of great athletes and everything else. People love the other sports. I might not watch ⁓ but i ⁓ other people put the same amount of time, effort, athletes to get an education, to go there, do it. RAC Chandler: Yeah, but people do. RAC Aaron: without the prestige, without all the money. But if we do things just like at the congressional level for college football, slash, you know, we could say some of this goes for basketball, but this is where we hear about it. it becomes something where it's like, ⁓ this might hurt smaller sports with less with less coverage, where these things aren't an issue. RAC Chandler: Sure. I mean, there's been numerous articles on D one programs across the board cutting so many different avenues of sports on their overall docket of what sports are allowed in that school because they just can't fund them. Like so many of them are in the negative and it's because football is demanding so much money now. And it really isn't fair. Like I know we all are super college football biased and we love college football. It's what we're doing this podcast for. But I mean, at the end of the day, not everybody that wakes up and wants to be an athlete at the col at the collegiate level can play football. I mean, maybe they like tennis, maybe they like baseball, maybe they like basketball, maybe they like track, javelin, any anything else that is at these D1 levels, I mean, they should have to ha they they should be able to get a fair shot at going to school, getting a scholarship and doing their thing for that because that's what their passion is. Not everybody should just be forced to go into this college football RY4N: Yeah, and it RAC Chandler: void that we all create, which i I mean it's great, nothing wrong with it, but it shouldn't be at the cost of other people's collegiate careers and overall enjoyment of their sport. RAC Aaron: Or or even the the or even the college experience as a whole. They are academic institutions. The the sports are a byproduct of that. And ev we love it, part of who we are, what we get drawn in for. But I mean, I think they might even need to say something of like the colleges shouldn't be paying the athletes directly at all. NIL can be outside of it. I know we have some of that, but RAC Chandler: Exactly. Yes. RAC Aaron: You know, if not with a hard cap on each school where a small hard cap, like we're talking single digit millions, which is crazy to say that's small. You can give me single single digit millions and you'll never see me again. But it is something that it's like something where it's like, okay, we can give the baseline students money to live and, you know, be in a comfortable position for them and their families, but not necessarily like schools paying double digits for an athlete. Is insane. It's just crazy. And it's the school paying it, not you know, Warbly Parker throwing money at you know Archbald. But it is something that that's a different case. That's a different story. That's a private company doing it with an athlete. That to me, if that's how the schools are arranging it, they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it that way. But I don't think it needs to come out of the coffers of the school. RY4N: Okay, I have two ⁓ sorry. RAC Chandler: It can sorry, this will be really quick. So so it can affect a lot of other things besides sports though. And I think from an entertainment side and for how much money football brings in, it's easy to tunnel vision on it. But those things can be taken out against tuition, against books, against quality of housing, against all these different things, and it's gonna inflate those prices because they have to make money somewhere. RAC Aaron: Go go ahead. RAC Chandler: Like if they're forced to spend all this money on these sports, then these people that have no care in the world for athletics and just want to go there for school, it might get priced out of their price range to be able even go to school or get that scholarship or do whatever because the school is funneling so much money into these athletics that they just they have to raise prices somewhere, or cut salaries of people, or limit staff, or do whatever. So there's a it's it's a slippery slope of of stuff if we keep increasing the money in the sport. RY4N: Well that's how it was before. It used to be like if you played football you get a full right scholarship, but if you played baseball or tennis, you might only get some of your school paid for, you might not get room and board paid for. Now I wanna go back to Aaron's thing where he's talking about the private institutions having to fund, not through the school. I've thought of that. I kind of think it's really loopholy though, 'cause then it's gonna be like the bigger schools, you know. It's like, ⁓ Auburn, he's just gonna give a Yellowwood sponsorship to every single person, or give Apple sponsorships to everyone. You look at Oregon, he's just gonna Nike sponsorship. So then it's like you gotta look at these big companies pairing with these big teams. And also the ⁓ other thing, I think football is the ⁓ the biggest sport and gets the most money. So I think that's why it gets the most attraction. And like I would I would be like, Yeah, it'd be kinda sad to like cut other sports. But if I was like some random kid and I played a weird niche sport, you know, I would be sad if they like cut my sport at the school. But I think a lot of times it's like RAC Aaron: Yeah, yeah. RAC Chandler: Yeah. RY4N: The smaller schools that don't have a ton of money have to cut it. But then like Ohio State, y'all aren't gonna cut like your swim team 'cause they're not getting money. Or something, you're just gonna pay for it anyway. Yeah, you're gonna cut some, but like the smaller schools are gonna like have to. Like at West Florida they don't even have like a track team. It's like a club 'cause they can't afford it, you know? RAC Aaron: Yeah. RAC Chandler: They've cut all kinds of sports. Yeah, but that shouldn't be like that. ⁓ like it's RAC Aaron: No, no. And I mean, I I'd love to interview some of those people that ⁓ were getting those alternate scholarships in other sports where it's like, you know, they got their meal plans paid for, but they still had to pay tuition. Now that they're seeing collegiate athletes like at the NIL level, where it's like, this is crazy that it has exploded this much that they weren't gonna give us tuition a few years ago and now they're dishing out double digit millions. But no, I and Ryan, I think you make a good point. There is If we go to a private NIL contract system, of course bigger schools with more money are gonna get it, but they're already doing that. I mean, Virginia Tech this week, as a side bit of news, got that $75 million investment. Yeah, well, I should say it's a donation because it's not an investment, but you know, good for them. That really helps my prediction. ⁓ but it is something that it's like they already have that. RY4N: Yeah, yeah. RAC Chandler: Donation. Yeah. RAC Aaron: So at least this way, there has to be some kind of contractual thing. We're seeing it. It gets to be part of it. It's not coming from the school. If the high-end alum wants to make a contract deal, I think we should make it a rule that it's like the school can't go and facilitate it or facilitate the negotiations and do those things and bring them in and say, hey, we have this, this, this, you get to have this, this, this. I think that can be something that their agents need to do with these companies and work through that system. But at least it's not coming out of the school because I think soon we're gonna see some schools really run into something that we're not thinking about, which is what happens when the money isn't there? What happens mid-season, something goes down, and that school no longer has the funds to pay out the NIL? They do that. You're Chandler, you're exactly right. That's not gonna affect. The sport, the alums, it's not gonna do that. It's going to affect the people at that school. Going to do Florida State could be in that situation where, you know, it seems like they might be there. I know we've heard it on the rumor mill. So that's gonna come from the other sports, from the kids going to school there and people that do that are going through the process the right way, that this doesn't impact because one school wanted to spend way more money than they had coming in on these programs. RY4N: First day. I think those were great points. ⁓ do you know who gave that that ⁓ donation to Virginia Tech though? RAC Chandler: What if RAC Aaron: I don't. I didn't know. Yeah, the Mr. Beast cash infusion to tech. No, tech's tech's too good. Yeah. RAC Chandler: It's Aaron's dad. RY4N: Was it Mr Beast? Was it Mr Beast? Th throwback to episode like three or whatever? He Yeah, he picked them instead of ECU. RAC Chandler: What if there was no, I'm just spitballing. Came to my mind, so I'm saying it could be a bad idea. Let me ramble for a second. So what if these private equity people, these big donors that come in, if they make a cash donation to that school, what if it was not eligible to be sport specific? And it had to be peanut butter spread across all sports or everything like Just equally shared, so like s sports didn't suffer because they haven't got a donation in twenty five years. But football's gotten one every single time. RY4N: caveat. You look at ⁓ Ohio State, you're gonna cut every single program except football and basketball. So then you can evenly spread all your money between football and basketball. That's what I do. If I was at Auburn, I would cut like soccer and stuff and lacrosse. RAC Aaron: That is Yep. That it it would that would be the answer is that they would that they would cut everything that was not baseball, basketball. Yeah, but money takes them away and RAC Chandler: Well, assuming they had morals, what if what if they could not do that in in in RY4N: Yep, they don't care. They don't care. RAC Aaron: And and I that's that's part of the issue. Yeah. RAC Chandler: It's sad. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's really it's really sad that all these sports like are are taking shots because of football. But RY4N: Let's all pick our ⁓ sorry. RAC Aaron: And I mean it we brought money in. And that's that's the ghost of the game here. You know, that's that's the the inverse that we didn't want. Like I've I've said many times, I'm so happy student athletes are getting paid. You know, a lot of these kids come from difficult scenarios. They come this was a pipeline that they worked for, and they might not be able to achieve a professional level because they get injured through this process. But we we have to have RAC Chandler: Yes. RAC Aaron: capstones on this. And the schools giving this out, I think, is the the worst case scenario because as we've said, every one of these just incentivizes the school to say football makes us the money. Therefore, everything else goes. And, you know, that kills a lot of women's sports. That kills a lot of these very I would say Olympic sports. It it hurts these things that we do still follow along and have prestige for and that we should be following along in terms of maybe not as a fan, but still encouraging younger generations to follow into. RY4N: Yeah, and a lot of the Olympic sports, if you're not the top like couple people in your sport, you're not getting any money at all. Those guys are getting like ninety five percent of the money. ⁓ Chandler, what are your top three niche sports that if they had to cut right now you'd be like the most sad about? RAC Chandler: Like at Ohio State? RY4N: Yeah. Just in college. Yeah, college level. RAC Aaron: Or at the college level. Yeah. RAC Chandler: ⁓ No, a good question. Because A lot of sports that are considered n not necessarily niche, but less advertised at the collegiate level, some funnel into huge sports like golf. Like golf outside of college is massive with all the different professional tournaments. So I don't know, something like golf, something like anything track and field related. I mean, that's a huge Olympic driver, especially in the summer stuff. RY4N: Mm-hmm. RAC Aaron: Throw out wrestling. RAC Chandler: Well, what about regional specific stuff? Like what about like hockey? Like what about like that's only like up in the north? Like some obviously there's there's southern schools that do it now, but it's north driven is like hockey. Like what if that got cut? I don't know, you could go on a RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah, or RY4N: Yeah, that'd be bad. I mean, is golf regionally specific? Do y'all have a golf team? We're pretty big into golf down here. I don't know if I mean it's hard to play in Ohio. It's like snows half the year, you know? RAC Chandler: Yeah. RAC Aaron: It's pretty normal up there. They got a couple months they can call. But no, I'll I'll say I'd say the most niche one that I would be sad to see go would be bowling. ⁓ because I feel like the kids that get in on bowling, yeah. Esports. We're not ready to have that conversation. Yeah. ⁓ RAC Chandler: Yeah. Yeah. What about esports? RY4N: Dude, sign me, man. RAC Chandler: I I mean I think obviously you can find a a sport that like ⁓ that's like so like bass fishing. Like there's like at Alabama, at Auburn, like there's like places you can get a bass fishing scholarship, right? Like that is an incredibly like nitpicked. And I understand people love it. But crazy. So i you can of course you're not gonna please everybody. RAC Aaron: ⁓ yeah. RY4N: Hm. Hey. That's tough though. RAC Aaron: Yeah. But it it's still something that the school can choose to do that. You know, those ha they invest in those programs. If they got a bowling team, they like bowling. And it's ⁓ those kids figured out the loophole to get into college. That's that's great, but RAC Chandler: Exactly. I would be interested to see though RY4N: That's so tough though, I caught a bigger fish than you? Like that's so awesome. RAC Aaron: Yeah, I w we're n we're not a professional fishing podcast. I'm sure there's plenty of them. RAC Chandler: I w I would be interested to see though if schools are forced to keep cutting these sports that are not as big in revenue, how that impacts the professional level of those sports, i.e. the Olympics, Masters, PGA tour, all that kind of stuff. Like how how does that stuff affect? Like if there's only if forty percent of the schools now only do track and field because all the rest of them got cut. Then how does that look as far as Olympians getting in for track and field? RY4N: There will be two powerhouses in the whole country that all of the good ones go to. That decided to keep this sport. It'll be soup Yeah. Yeah. RAC Chandler: Yeah, but then competition for those is yeah, it's weird, saturated. So then you're killing competition there. RAC Aaron: Yeah. And just it it hurts us on the the Olympic level. It it hurts us as a country in those in those avenues because not every kid wants to play football. I didn't. I I never played football for a school. That was just not something I was into. I did wrestling, I did all that stuff. I and it was great. But as a kid, I just wasn't interested. And it would make me sad to see if like, RAC Chandler: Yeah. RAC Aaron: Those kids that feel that same way, the ones that do want to go into a just different sport have to give up that idea of like, well, they're it's not really supported by cops. And so we're not gonna participate in the high school level anymore. High schools start cutting down the programs. ⁓ you know, we don't wanna see sports go away. We l we love them all. But we watch football. RY4N: Yeah, I love sport well most I love most sports. But yeah, my friend ⁓ one of my friends wrestled in high school and he would always tell me Penn State was like super good at wrestling. So like they probably fund that pretty big up there. I heard it's really big up north, but maybe they should put some of them on the football team and they'd be a little better. RAC Aaron: ⁓ they love ⁓ now. They love recruiting wrestlers. RAC Chandler: Yeah, I that's that's a good point because I mean how soon do those dreams start going to the wayside if they're like, ⁓ well there's no like like gymnastics. After the c after the collegiate level, you don't go any higher unless you're an Olympian. Like there's no professional gymnastics. So like at that point, like if that starts getting defunded, then it's like, Well, either I'm gonna be an Olympian or I'm gonna not play collegiate gymnastics and I'm just gonna be done in high school. So why even do it in high school? So i th There's a you mean you can go under a lot of rabbit holes. RAC Aaron: It is. And it I think gymnastics is one of the perfect representation representations of it. My wife loves gymnastics. Did it as a kid? We we watch it. ⁓ we watch the Olympics and we watch all the like competition stuff at the high level. And if you watch it too, you know, like when it comes to men's gymnastics, there's like six dudes that are doing like ⁓ outside the Olympics. Like if you're watching like the national championships and things like that. RAC Chandler: Mm-hmm. So is mine. Yeah. Yeah. RAC Aaron: For this years, yeah, I just I'm like, hey, it's that guy. and it's I think one of their names is like Coy. And I'm like, that guy's cool. I like watching his stuff. But I see him every year and I see the same group. And that to me, where gymnastics was in the what eighties and early nineties, where it was like a high-level sport in viewership, of course, sports are gonna fade and trend with time. That's gonna happen. But to see like a couple people participating and once was a huge sport, you're right, you don't see it. You just see that trickle down through the years that it goes from younger and younger audiences that no longer participate in it because there is no end goal anymore. RAC Chandler: Yeah. 'Cause it it I mean it's even deeper than like sports. It's like me playing sports through high school, that's where some of my closest friends and friendships and life skills were developed. So like you're taking away a lot more than just their ability to play that sport. You're taking away a lot of their extracurricular RAC Aaron: ⁓ yeah. RAC Chandler: Self-building for lack of a better word. Like i i there's a lot of life skills you learn from just being on sports teams and being in a team setting. RAC Aaron: Yeah. RY4N: Okay, you can cut this if you want. That just made me think of something really funny. My dad was just we were just watching the Armor baseball game on the T V and a thing was coming up talking about how sports are good and they help people build life skills. He said like what? They help like balance checkbooks and stuff and I was like, No, like discipline and character and working through hard times and stuff, yeah. Yeah, and I I think those are wonderful. RAC Chandler: Yeah. Yeah. Partiness. Yeah. All that kind of stuff. RAC Aaron: We we can s we could say nobody's balanced a checkbook in quite a while, but no, I I agree. RY4N: But those are great things to have in life. I mean a lot of people nowadays, you know, it's almost like the transfer portal. I don't like my job, I'm gonna quit. I wanna work online now. You know, it's like you you gotta have some perseverance in life and everything in life. And it's like if you're really used to having a sucky coach and it's really hard, you know, anything in life is just so much easier. You're five minutes late and you have to run eight miles, you know, stuff like that. But it really just makes everything in life. RAC Chandler: And like yeah, the the mental side of it, like i it it builds self confidence, builds a better like headspace of like the ability for you to go in and actually achieve something and do it. Like if you just don't have that and you don't have that kind of structure because you just don't have the ability to do it, but you want to, like that just sucks. Like yeah, I don't know. This is this is a great topic because it I mean it's RY4N: Mm-hmm. RAC Aaron: Yeah, yeah. Well it is it it is surprising that it has it has gone from this. This was supposed to be our short news segment, but I do love that it does make you think about this. And I think when you're talking about something like this, it does take make you take a step back as a fan and say, I love this. I love this sport. ⁓ college football is such a motivator for my entertainment each year. I I look forward to it, can't wait for it. But it is my entertainment. And it ⁓ these are kids and the kids in the crowd in the student section are kids there that are feeling that way, that we all feel when we watch the games. And it's like if these things start impacting that on a bigger scale, whether it's other sports, things like that, it is something that it's like at that point we're crossing that threshold of not worth it. And we need to maybe i if we're going this far back unregulated, maybe these need to be separated from the colleges. Because it we can't let the academic side and the future side of things be bowled over because we want to give everybody involved hundreds of millions of dollars every year that we shouldn't be giving out. And that d that's coaching, that's athletes, things like that, that the school shouldn't be tossing money around. The school should be providing the place for them to live, their food, their academics. They support systems. All of that's fine. Non-monetary assistance, great. ⁓ you know, they want to give them a c or a college vehicle to drive around and get speeding tickets at Georgia. We can do that, but I think when we're starting to write checks, we're we're in a dark place with it. RAC Chandler: Agree. And then what ⁓ what about the the whole Nick Saban's I don't even know if Nick Saban was the one talked about this, but him saying the regional split of conferences or whatever whatever like ⁓ super conferences essentially, like northeast, southeast, northwest. Yeah. Just split the the country in fours. That'd be crazy. RAC Aaron: Yes, the Yeah. Four big conferences, yeah. ⁓ This was actually the reason I wanted to talk about this in the beginning. Like what when we when I brought this up at the gym before we recorded, ⁓ I like that concept. I think that is something that he brought up to the table, a conversation that we've needed to have for a few years now. People don't want to have it. I I'm an SEC guy. I love the SEC. You know, every you're a Big Ten guy, you love the Big Ten. It's not working anymore. ⁓ the conferences have failed and what they were supposed to be, which was they were kind of a regional thing to begin with. The four big ones we had you know the pack, we had the ACC, we have Big Ten, Big Twelve, and SEC. ⁓ RY4N: But like the SEC is at least the Southeastern Conference. And the other South East Yeah. And then the other Southeast teams that like weren't good enough were in the ACC. And the Big Ten used to just kinda be northeast, but now it's like countrywide. You know? RAC Aaron: Yep, they have kept that, and I'll give them that. RAC Chandler: The North, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the Big Ten commercials like the blimps flying all the way over to California. Yeah. RAC Aaron: Yeah. We have ⁓ Yeah. Yeah, they had to zoom out the map. It used to be just that nice little like, hey, here's this corner, and now it's like, ⁓ nope, hold on. ACC, we gotta scoot over to the West Coast real quick. We have we have schools that can see the Pacific Ocean in the Atlantic Conference. And I mean, the big thing I think we need to reevaluate it for is fans. RY4N: Yeah. Yeah. RAC Aaron: What is the thing you get from college football that you don't get anywhere else at that level, which is the in-person game? ⁓ there is something about college football that has a a pulse to it when you're in a stadium watching a game. I am not going out to California to watch a season game. Like I I can't. That's just v if we wanted to go to an SEC game, me and Ryan wanted to catch Auburn at Mississippi State, we can hop in the car and be there. Like that's something we can drive from one school to the other. ⁓ you know, it's a day, it's a long drive, but you can still do that. But I think when we start getting in these, like we have athletes, student athletes, when we talk to Will about like, hey, you have to go do this. You you this is your scheduling, how tight that is. And when we have somebody from let's say Florida State is now going out to California it during a week that they're in school, you know, that's a huge transition. That's a big movement, you know, you're talking trucks cross country to play a game. That ⁓ that to me just is a lot when we could just have regionals. RAC Chandler: Yeah, so let's let's think about this real quick. Let's have s have some fun with it. So if we went well like what what conference or what region would be the best region? It would probably be the southeast region. RY4N: Southeastern. RAC Aaron: I'd say I'd say it'd be southeast just because how strong the SEC. Yeah. RAC Chandler: Depends on where the it depends on where the line is, I guess. Like if you wanna 'cause like Texas is a recency biased one, but they're not in the southeast one. 'Cause they're over there. And then RAC Aaron: Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, if now if the divide, I'd say probably Texas would be one that either would end up being split or in it Texas would be on the eastern side of things. ⁓ yeah. We gotta separate Sark and Texas Tech right now. ⁓ the them fighting. But no, I think Northeast could be a pretty big contender if we're talking like we're going. Yeah. RAC Chandler: Texas Tech's bottom left, Texas is bottom right. RY4N: Yeah. I'm going with that. RAC Chandler: Ca it's it's a congested area. A lot of team. RAC Aaron: Yeah, a lot of talent. RY4N: But who, like Rutgers, Ohio State, Penn State? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. ⁓ yeah, India. Okay, but like a lot of the Western guys though, like you look like Oregon, USC, Washington, they would just all go by the Pac twelve. Like we would just reestablish the Pac twelve essentially, just put those teams back. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Indian RAC Chandler: Indiana. RAC Aaron: Yeah. ⁓ I mean i but that's kind of where we were at with it. That was what the conferences were. RY4N: Yeah. It was fine. I didn't mind it. RAC Chandler: But then the whole argument came of like, ⁓ these guys play a lot less competition. They don't make nearly enough money. Hey, let's buy into this conference and get endorsed into this conference and then make a super conference because now we're gonna have play a little bit better people. Now we're gonna make some more money because we're attached to a bigger conference, and then that's where mega conferences came from. I mean, we're the we're the big eighteen. Like, I mean, it it's it's ridiculous. Because then you can get the short into the straw now, like last season with Ohio State. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. And RAC Chandler: They played a lot of the bottom half teams because there's 18 teams in it. You're not gonna be able to play all the best ones every single year. So it it's it's ⁓ it definitely needs to be separated. Or it can be like the NFL, where it's like I don't know, what is there, like four or five teams per little region? Yeah, it could be like that. It could just be like little mini conferences. Or like how the SEC used to be, East and West. Like it we it can do all kinds of different stuff. I just think there needs to be like RAC Aaron: No, no. Yeah. Yeah. RY4N: Yeah. Eight sets of four. Yeah. RAC Chandler: Five, six teams in each one, maybe. Have a lot smaller ones. I I don't that's a whole separate episode. I that's RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Now, yeah, that's that's gonna be one soon where we talk about Aaron's desire to see college football in a regulation format. But ⁓ that's it's my true dream. It's it's what I want more than anything else. Twenty fourteen playoff. Yeah. So RAC Chandler: Ha ha RY4N: We're almost getting to that though. We're almost getting to that. If SEC separates, you know, we have Big Ten SEC right now. They would just have to kinda move the town ⁓ put the put the best SEC and the best Big Ten and then put the worst SEC and the worst Big Ten and then you had all the other ones down there still. So RAC Chandler: Give us a little teaser. RAC Aaron: Yeah. RAC Chandler: Big eighteen. like a like a like a Minnesota in a Mississippi State would go head to head. RAC Aaron: Yeah, yeah, you can throw you throw Auburn in there sometimes too. no. So to me, a regulation based system. If we are okay with schools transferring cross-country to play, if we created the conferences based off of skill of the program. So it isn't location, it isn't anything like that. We let's say we have our 12 schedule season, 11 or 10 of those games are. RY4N: Okay. They don't have to target get personal here. Don't have to get personal here. RAC Chandler: Mm-hmm. RAC Aaron: In conference for that bracket. And those brackets are 10 to 12 teams. How many games you're gonna play in conference is that last game of the season? You give wild card, that is your rivalry game. We do not break up rivalries even outside of divisions, because rivalries lifeblood. But those slots every year, we can work out the hard number later. Let's just say the worst performing. In one conference gets bumped down to the next level. The top performing in the conference that was under them gets bumped up. So it keeps the same number. It's based on performance. The worst team in that conference goes down to another layer. So it's like a pyramid. The top teams are working at the very top, playing each other. The next ones down are the ones that are just not quite there and they're playing each other. And we are shifting teams up and down every season. So RAC Chandler: So basically skill based matchmaking. RAC Aaron: Yeah, exactly. That is what it is. And it keeps it interesting. It keeps teams invested. But it also, if you're a fan of, let's say, an Auburn or Mississippi State, it means our seasons are competitive. If our program, if Mississippi State isn't where they needed to be, or ⁓ whatever school you want to throw in there that isn't a blue blood isn't always, we're still gonna play games that are close and competitive and they're fun. We're playing against people that are playing at the same level we are. But then it's also like maybe not just the national championship. It's this like we're playing to go up. We're playing to avoid going down. And yep. Yep. So RAC Chandler: to get to the next tier or like level or whatever. So every team has the ability to get to that top pyramid. RAC Aaron: Yep. And everybody is playing the same strength of schedule across the league because it is yep. It is relative to their bracket. And I think it works for the English football clubs very well. It is something that makes it interesting, makes it fun. It you know, it they run into the same thing, the money's at the top. It does get thinner as you go down, but we're seeing that now. RAC Chandler: Relative to what they're playing at. RAC Aaron: But we still can have competitive natured games. We can still have college like schools that can't pay or won't pay what the big teams are. They still can have competitive ones. They're still playing at their own level, but they're not running into organ schedule this year, which is ⁓ barely a schedule. It's it is like training games for the first 10 weeks. So RAC Chandler: Would national championship still be the pinnacle of that? Would there be other like smaller championship games throughout it? RAC Aaron: Yeah, that's I think I think you would have like the playoffs would then become the different brackets playing each other for their title. And then the championship is the highest level every time. It's just the top two in the highest level go against each other. RY4N: Should be a conference championship and then a separate college football playoff with all the teams. RAC Aaron: Yeah, we could even do that. We could have that as a as a seed for it where it's like, ⁓ well, we have the bottom team going against the top and we go into like an eight team format at that point, as it's after it's broken up. So RY4N: Yeah, we're pulling ⁓ we're pulling a tier three team. I like this team. I'm putting ⁓ in the playoffs. Putting to tier three. RAC Chandler: Not bad. Not bad. RAC Aaron: Yeah, because they everybody gets a spot. We just have w each one in everybody gets the slot. The winner of that bracket goes against the other bracket winners. Of course, the top level's gonna be the favorite. You're gonna have to beat ⁓ But you get that little bit of a Cinderella chance to do it, but it still means something. They still get the title at the end. But the bracket underneath them could be competitors for it. And I think that's just more interesting than we see now. We don't have to worry about the bottom bracket winning every time, but you could you know, hope you could have a you could have a fun game that you don't really care about. But right now we're already seeing it, so RAC Chandler: What if team sandbag? What if you drop, you lose games on purpose to get to that top of a lower tier, and then like, hey, you win, no, now I'm in another tier, I'm gonna lose again to get back on the top of the tier below me. And then you just battle around that tier. Then you get that seed in the playoff. You play, you still get in, but you could still win it because you're actually a top tier team, but you just fell down back here. RY4N: You could do that, I guess. RAC Aaron: Think okay. Yeah, but I also think it would be one of those things that, like, it's kind of like in the NFL when you tank a season for a draft pick, where you gotta be really sure because we see coaches get fired for that. Like, you have to be very clear that that's what you're doing, and you have to then coordinate with the rest of the bracket to make sure you are the one that loses. And to do that, you're gonna have to take heat. There's no way you throw a season bad enough to guarantee you're in that last slot for relegation that it is something that would be there. I I think it's more risk than it is reward to go against the top team like that. And we could really only say that you'd see it at the top level because of that. But how many of those top level programs that are already in that slot are gonna want to risk it? ⁓ you know, to be knocked down because there's gonna there's the prestigious There's the prestige aspect of it. Imagine Ohio State, you get dropped down. You guys are not gonna be happy about that. Like as a fandom, you're gonna be like, we don't play at that level. We need to be back up there next year. We're firing this coach. Like that's gonna be the way that's handled. RAC Chandler: Yeah, that's that's that's interesting. That's not that's not a bad situation there. 'Cause I mean then obviously you'd have lower tiers of people playing and ⁓ but then it wouldn't really be an easier schedule because they're of the same caliber. So that's that yeah, that's like ⁓ they're not playing anybody. Actually they're playing exactly who they should be. RAC Aaron: No, it'd be just as hard. So it's like it kind of cures our FBS, FCS kind of thing where we have these different groups. Yeah. Or we have the Pac 12 situation where the Pac 12 just isn't as strong as they have been, or ACC that hasn't been as historically as strong as they have been in the past. Like we have equal seasons across the board for everybody that wants to participate at that level. And the people that are just gonna run around and play each other like they already are, we still keep that. But like I said, it does come with the caveat. That there is always the rivalries. We do not break up rivalries for it, but I think we'd see new ones. Especially, could you imagine that game of like the team at the bottom of the brackets, playing the team at the top of the bracket, final game or you know, second to last game of the season? That team's playing their heart out to not get relegated down to the bottom. Top team wants to keep their spot up top for that seeding into the final. Like it is something that it's like you get some games that mean a lot. during the season. Like every game you're looking at, like where how does that affect our rankings? And nobody wants to go down. Nobody wants to drop. RAC Chandler: Yeah, 'cause they could be like both like seven and five or something. And like that game usually wouldn't mean much, but like in that situation it would. That's interesting. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Injuries become a bigger there's consequence to more of this. RAC Chandler: Yeah. Because yeah, then you could get somebody in the bracket that's seven and five, but then you could also get somebody in the bracket that's twelve and ⁓ That's yeah, there's a lot of flex to that. That's interesting. RAC Aaron: If if we're talking conference realignment, I think it's like we do that on the extreme level to bring that kind of system in to mitigate financial advantage and things like that. Those big schools are gonna pay the most. I mean, ⁓ it helps solve some of this where the mid schools aren't gonna have to go into debt to try to keep up because they might just be happy. You know, a Vanderbilt might not want to be in the top league. They might want to stay where they're at and just be at a good competitive level of schools in that kind of mentality that are historically not a huge spender works for them. RAC Chandler: Yeah, because then teams wouldn't have to spend at the same level as these upper programs to be able to stay afloat. They could still meet ⁓ live within their means, quote unquote, at whatever revenue their school brings in and not have to artificially inflate the revenue sources and income streams to be able to compete at these levels. Like, yeah, they might have a less talented roster, but they could still compete wherever they are in their in their conference. Yeah, that's that's pretty cool. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. And we get we get rid of some of the conference deals and things like that that schools are locking in and moving conference to get the money side of things because you wanna be in where the money and views are, that's that top bracket. I mean that like I said, that's gonna be that's gonna be your high end. So it's like we don't have that push deal that one group has that another conference doesn't have the SEC Big Ten situation we have with the negotiations this year where SEC is upset they're playing a harder schedule and Big Ten's like we gotcha. like it it works for them. And I think now we're at such a point of imbalance that we have to correct. RAC Chandler: Yeah, that does suck. It does suck. So what I'm hearing is big noon slot would be gone in this hypothetical situation. RAC Aaron: Well, we'd save that for your lower brackets. Nobody wants a big noon. Yeah. But then you keep your top bracket ones at your seven PM. Yeah. Those good kickoffs. So and that's a thing you're playing for. That's the advantage. RAC Chandler: That's fine. Take take it that take it over there. Prime time. Yeah, I like this. I like it. Yeah, give Troy, Alabama, the eleven o'clock slot. Shout out to all those Troy f fans out there. Give those guys the eleven o'clock slot. RY4N: How d How dare you wish that on them. Poor poor Troy fans. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. RAC Chandler: Or the mean green fighting herd. RY4N: Too lame? ⁓ Spot green wave? RAC Chandler: I I think I just combined two teams there. RAC Aaron: Yeah. RY4N: Ninja Green team? RAC Chandler: Man. That's good. I like that. I like that a lot. I've never heard that. Because you've been saving it for the podcast, so I appreciate the tease. That's that's a good ⁓ that's a good situation there. No no no You should say you are though. RAC Aaron: I I'm not the only one that thinks that. I think that's something ⁓ there there are a lot of people that talk about. Yes, I am the one who has said it with the most confidence that it could happen. But ⁓ no, I I think if anybody's interested in how that kind of system works, ⁓ I believe there's the Hulu show, the Welcome to Rexum, the one with ⁓ the Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElinny. RAC Chandler: There we go. ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. RAC Aaron: Where they bought this the program and they're taking a program through that regulation. They do talk about it, they walk you through it. Yeah. And so they walk you through how that system works and what that does as you go through promotion regulation. You're looking for that. If that sounds interesting and you want to talk to people about regulation, I think that's a good place to start because it does assume you don't know anything about English football, like all of us don't. ⁓ so Yeah. Bold. Bold. RAC Chandler: The soccer team. Mm-hmm. Plus, Ryan Reynolds, top tier actor. Don't believe me, argue with the wall. RAC Aaron: I'll I'll I'll go ahead and say ⁓ we can have a discussion about that on a different episode. But Ryan Reynolds, you're welcome to on the show. ⁓ won't say no to you. ⁓ RAC Chandler: No no no. No no no. Aaron is saying no. RY4N: No no no, we can't. We have war e we cannot. We have war eagle mobile. We have war eagle mobile. Keep your mit mobile to yourself, bud. RAC Aaron: Yeah, you're you what, Ryan Reynolds, you're banned. Yeah. War Eagle Mobile first. Yeah, we don't do men. Yeah. War Eagle Mobile, you're you can come on. Yeah. So it sounds like we've wrapped up our news segment and ⁓ you know, our short jaunt of an hour into our news segment. ⁓ we're ready to rank some quarterbacks, boys. RAC Chandler: But keep making Deadpool movies. That'll that'll be okay. Should we just call this an episode? I feel like we're gonna talk to the about quarterbacks for like thirty, forty-five minutes plus. RY4N: Nee, I'm just kidding. RAC Aaron: Do have any more thoughts on this topic? I think we can stretch it and then I'll just retake the intro. Or do we just want to stay? We'll just close it out. We're doing it. It is. RAC Chandler: I feel like an hour's fine. I don't know. I mean I RY4N: We could say, got distracted. RAC Aaron: Yeah. RAC Chandler: This hour mark, hour fifteen mark is like the sweet spot of who li like I feel like any longer than that we me Ryan are talking about today. I feel like it's like, ⁓ an hour forty five podcasts. I'm not listening to it. RAC Aaron: It is, it is. Yeah. It's wasted effort. It's extra like at that point we might as well just make separate short clips instead of trying to farm for it and have to edit it longer where it's like Yeah. RAC Chandler: My shorts just ripped. My shorts just ripped. RY4N: Wait what? RAC Aaron: I said I cast a spell on you. ⁓ I ⁓ that's very funny. I said the word shorts and you ⁓ immediately lost it. so RY4N: Leave it in. Can you RAC Chandler: I have a gaping hole in my shorts. Yeah, yeah, you could le you can leave that in. Yeah. That's unfortunate. RY4N: Can you leave that in? Someone just just ripped Jamie's shorts. Breaking news. Break breaking news. RAC Chandler: Yeah, we can put that in the front. Yeah, ⁓ my shorts ripped. They were excited. Woo! RY4N: No. I love shorts. I am shorts. That's me The destroyed themselves over Aaron's com sorry. RAC Chandler: Woo! RAC Aaron: It's just Relegation, Ryan Reynolds, the midgen of shorts, too much for you. Put a strain on that seam down there. But RAC Chandler: They got too excited, the combusted. Yeah, I think that's a good episode. I think we're I think we're good. RAC Aaron: I think so too. Okay. RAC Chandler: Plus it we're we have so much time until the season we need all the help we can get with episodes. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. So ⁓ that's what I'm gonna take it as. RY4N: ⁓ also I think the Byron Brown video is almost over. Taylor said he danced. I can put that in, I can send it to you and get it edited, so I don't know if we mentioned that potentially. RAC Aaron: Yeah, cover. RAC Chandler: Yeah, you should mention that when we close. Yeah, mention that. RAC Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. So all right, I'll go ahead and transfer us and we can talk about that. ⁓ well, and I think that's gonna wrap up our normal intro news segment that we do that we once again turned into an entire episode. I don't think we're ranking quarterbacks today's voice. I think we will respect the viewers' time here and say, guess what? We still got like months until we got college football. So We'll talk about quarterbacks next week. Maybe the week after. We'll come back. We'll be talking about them. But right now, we had a great talk about this. I I love that we get to sit there, have a conversation about it. You can tell how much we didn't plan that that was going to go that way. And we were off the cuff with that because it did take over the episode. So thank you for putting up with this. We love it. But y'all boys have anything else that we're working on in the meantime while we're wrapping this thing up? RAC Chandler: I will say shout out to the guys over at E2C, the Auburn Network. We've got in contact with them and we are gonna do a show talking about Auburn, breaking down how they got into Auburn, what their expectations are for the season. So they're coming on July 11th. So that following Monday after the 11th. So what the like the 13th-ish. That will be when that episode. I know it's a long way away, but RY4N: Fifteenth fifteenth, fourteenth, thirteenth. RAC Aaron: Let let's let's take it let's take it as a ⁓ we're looking to sit down and do that in the beginning of July. Just to ⁓ just to give us some in case they like they have to push. Yeah. RAC Chandler: The date. Okay, so okay. Did I retake the whole thing? RY4N: Yep. ⁓ no. RAC Aaron: No, no, just you can you w however you want to do it. Yeah. RAC Chandler: I'll redo whole thing. Alright. As a matter of fact, Aaron I do have something to Okay, alright. ⁓ RAC Aaron: Hmm. RY4N: What what is the something that you have? I liked that. That was good. You should do it like that. That's good. RAC Chandler: Okay, all right. RAC Aaron: I proclaim. RAC Chandler: Actually, Erin, it's funny that you mentioned that because I do have something that I need to mention. RAC Aaron: I may just be a simple podcaster, but RAC Chandler: Okay. All right. Yeah, so we did just get in contact with the E2C guys, the Auburn network. We are in works to get them on the show in the beginning of July, so that'll be a fun one to kind of break down what their expectations are for the Auburn upcoming season. To get to know them as a network, to get to know how they got in to become a network. ⁓ all that fine stuff over in the Auburn world we'll learn more about and dive into that side. Hopefully beginning in July. So that'll be a fun one to keep on the radar for y'all enthusiastic rack listeners. RAC Aaron: And if there's one thing we have not talked about enough on this show, it's the Auburn football program. RAC Chandler: Maybe they have insight on War Eagle Mobile. I don't know, but RY4N: Mm-hmm. RAC Aaron: So l listeners, viewers, leave us a comment. ⁓ if you have anything specific that you want to know about the Auburn program, anything about the upcoming season, these are some of the experts, check them out. We wanna sit down and talk with them, but we also want to make sure that we're passing along any information you find interesting. So feel free, hit us up with it, shoot it over to an email if you want to send it to an email and not in a public comment. We're happy to take those. So we're looking forward to it. It's gonna be really exciting. So ⁓ we'll get to talk about Auburn for a whole episode, so it'll be just like our normal weekly show. RAC Chandler: Yeah, I'll be sick that week. Alright, Ryan, do you have any ⁓ updates for us? RAC Aaron: Updates. RY4N: ⁓ the Byron Brown throwing video should be coming out this next week. That's pretty fun. RAC Aaron: Or experimental film. RY4N: Yes. Great. RAC Chandler: Yeah, I don't know what's been taking Ryan so long to edit this video, so y'all give him a hard time in the comment section because he's been just whittle in his thumbs over there with this with this edit. He hasn't been waiting on anybody to give him a clip of anything for the video. RAC Aaron: Okay. No, this no, n none of us. Yep. RY4N: There's a there's a piece in there that I've been waiting a couple weeks for Chandler for, but he's But ⁓ once you watch the video, ⁓ RAC Chandler: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. RAC Aaron: He's gonna have to sue the NCAA now. This is the only answer. RAC Chandler: Yep. Take it to court. RY4N: Once you wa ⁓ once you watch the video though, you're definitely gonna go, that wasn't worth two extra weeks of waiting. So that's good. Let it happen. RAC Aaron: Ha ha ha. RAC Chandler: Ha ha ha. So shout out to the eight viewers that are gonna watch that video. RAC Aaron: No, this is Ryan's project. He put this together. This is something he really was excited to do. Yeah. This is his fault. RY4N: Yes. RAC Chandler: Yeah. It's all his. It's all over it's all Ryan's video. Yep. It's only Ryan. Ryan made this video solely by himself. RY4N: No it's our no no no. No no no no It's our our video. No no no RAC Aaron: No, but he has been working very hard on it. I'm I haven't seen it yet. ⁓ so I am excited to see it. And I I expect it to be different than our normal type content, but it'll be exciting. So I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to put it out there. So RAC Chandler: You were held hostage in the video. RY4N: Yeah, I sh it should be. RAC Chandler: Me too. My suggestion to everybody watching that video when it comes out is watch it with the volume off. ⁓ maybe turn on captions. Save your ears. RAC Aaron: No. No. It it it's gonna be fun. I I'm very excited. So we'll have to see. We'll have to see. Watch it be our like piece that breaks into a whole new audience demographic, becomes the whole show. ⁓ and yeah, yeah, we just abandon all of this. We sell out immediately. Yeah, you know how we are. we got this cheap podcasting equipment to throw our opinions out of the air. RAC Chandler: Like a hundred K views like three days. It is it is sponsored by Gatorade in the video. So that's cool. RY4N: Yeah. Videos once we're gated. ⁓ RAC Aaron: That's a bigger that's a bigger git than We're Eagle Mobile. RAC Chandler: Yeah. Forget those guys. They can fly out of here. RY4N: It's not as personal though to me. RAC Aaron: Yeah. We're still here. We'll take your call. RAC Chandler: Alright, well that's all we got. Thanks guys. RAC Aaron: That's it. That's it for updates. So we'll have to see if it's less of an interesting news week next week. ⁓ are we gonna do quarterbacks next week? Okay. All right. So next week, tune in. ⁓ yeah. We we're like a bad start of the season. D delay of games multiple times in those early weeks. So yeah, next week, join in. We'll talk about ranking quarterbacks, hopefully. Or maybe trivia for a whole nother night. RAC Chandler: That's the goal. Who knows though? We might have a delay of game again. RAC Aaron: We'll see when we get back here on off season run after cast. Check us out on social media, follow us in the Linktree. We'll see you next week. RY4N: Bye bye.