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The old order is dead! The reshaping of America and the global order · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Hello, I'm Todd Royal.
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Welcome to another episode of jail power, energy, and real politics.
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I'm your host.
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Very excited to have on David Blackman again.
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And I'm even breaking my own rules because I typically like to wait between six to eight weeks between uh guests.
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And I had David on a few weeks ago, but there's a reason why.
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Uh let's first let me introduce David to you.
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David is a 40-plus year veteran, uh, energy uh has worked many firms, fossil fuels, natural gas, oil.
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Um David has his own podcast.
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David's with a gentleman named Stu Turley, who has one of the top podcasts in the world now.
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Uh, shout out to Stu.
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Uh, what they're doing is incredible.
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I also want to tell you guys, I want to put David up there with what I consider now the top analyst, uh, Doomberg, um, Andrew Koriasi, T.
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Lick Dossi, um Edward Ring.
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Uh I know I'm missing uh Doug uh Doug Sheridan, who you turned me on to, David.
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Yeah, he's great.
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Um just people that are doing the top work here.
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So I want to kick this off with you, David.
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So, first off, thanks for being on the show.
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Hey, thank you for having me, man.
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It's always a pleasure.
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Pleasure, thank you.
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You wrote a piece um recently called uh also if you're not on David's Substack, please introduce your substack in a moment, and it's well worth your money, it's well worth your time, and it's well worth getting his emails every day.
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Um, but you wrote you wrote a piece which really builds on what I talked about last week.
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And your piece is called the old world order is dead.
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And in your Substack post, the old world order is dead.
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You outline what you see as an emerging global reorganization linked to suppress suppressed truths about the 2020 election.
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From your perspective, how do these global power alignments intersect with the concept of color revolutions?
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What we're seeing, obviously, in Minnesota and Los Angeles and pardon me, Minneapolis particularly, especially the use of media and political institutions to influence or even destabilize governments.
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Well, yeah, you know, and of course, uh uh the color revolution concept is is something that our own CIA has specialized in over the decades uh in other countries.
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Uh the Arab Spring was all fomented by the C well combination of CIA, MI6 and the Five Eyes agencies.
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I mean, I think that's just a fact of history that we all, well, not everyone knows, but I mean, it's just a fact of history.
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Uh, and and going all the way back to the 1950s, uh, the CIA has been doing this exact thing, which is exactly what you're talking about, uh, leveraging political party with uh media infrastructure to uh destabilize governments and and bring them down and replace them with uh a different government, more to the preference of the global world order, right?
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Which is which has been uh governed over uh in recent decades by globalist organizations like the United Nations working in conjunction with the Atlantic Forum and the World Economic Forum and you know, uh a variety of those kinds of internationalist groups, um, to determine how things are gonna go across Western democracies, even NATO and the G7 have been leveraged for this purpose.
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Yep.
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Um, and so what we see happening now, and it's all been that that's all been conducted under the rubric of these um post-World War II agreements, like the Marshall Plan and NATO was set up, and the United Nations was set up after World War II, um, to create a war, what they called the liberal world order, in which the United States would essentially be serve as the policeman for the world.
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Uh our Navy, which was so far and away the preeminent naval force on the face of the earth at that time, was to uh, you know, take on the task of keeping shipping lanes open for global trade, which everyone saw increasing dramatically thanks to you know evolving technologies and and modes of transportation during that time.
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And then the United States was also as part of NATO set up to protect Western quote, Western democracies from Soviet expansion.
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The Soviet Union was the major threat to the United States as the preliminate global power.
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And so since that time, across the last 80 years now, the United States has performed that function in the process, giving away uh trillions and trillions of dollars of our national wealth, redistributing it uh to Europe and and other countries around the world, uh, and building an enormous national debt as part of that process.
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Donald Trump across the last really 30 years.
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Yeah, I mean, he's been talking about these things for a long time since the 1980s, that famous interview he did with Oprah Winfrey, I think 1988, 89.
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Yep.
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Um, this has been a constant theme of his uh, you know, in those kinds of uh forums, and it it was a kind it was a major theme in in his 2016 run for the presidency, which he won in a shocking result.
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And um, and and so he's he's he doesn't think that liberal world order should persist.
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And uh he's going about now in this second term, his first term he was hobbled with a four-year long coup d'etat, uh, you know, executed under the rubric of uh the Mueller investigation and and the Russia collusion hoax perpetrated by the Clinton campaign in conjunction with the Department of Justice and FBI officials.
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Um but this this in this second presidency, he's a lot more organized and focused, and he is leading what I believe there's everything that's happening right now, is part of his effort to end this liberal world order and replace it with a bifurcated world order in which essentially you have two orbits.
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You're going to have a United States orbit and a China dominated orbit in which countries are going to align themselves into trading blocks and security protection blocks like NATO.
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Um, and it's all right now in a state of great flux, as we see.
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And that was, you know, I woke up Sunday morning thinking, not even intending to write that piece.
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I that I my mind doesn't work that way.
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I don't get up in the morning with a pre-plan on what to write about.
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But this all, you know, as I was going through my daily routine of surveying you know what was happening, uh, it all kind of materialized or not materialized, but formed itself in my mind and I put it on paper.
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Uh these are all things I've been thinking about for a while, but had never kind of collated into a single piece.
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So that's what I believe is happening.
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And you know, as I laid out in the piece, everything we see taking place right now is interrelated to it.
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Let me okay, I'm gonna ask you two questions that are different.
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Um I'm uh also for the audience.
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I want to reveal a little bit.
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Typically, what I like to do with guests is I send questions ahead of time.
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I like I don't like to surprise anybody.
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Um, I like to do show prep.
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I like to get my sources together, but what I really like to do when there's guests like David, I like to send uh questions ahead of time.
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But I've I've had the chance to interview David now a number of times, even speak with him a little bit personally, and I know when you get these top analysts, they their brains are very nimble.
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So I'm gonna throw two questions at you.
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Uh, what you mean?
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We don't have to stick to the screen.
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Yeah, what you just said, which is this.
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Let's talk about NATO.
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I want you to talk about the collapse of NATO in many ways, has to do with a lack of energy, meaning not my personal daily energy as a human being, but the EU, Germany, the rest of Britain are collapsing because they will not have energy.
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So I'd like you to expound on that, which is obviously affecting NATO.
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And then, secondly, because all this came to what you just said.
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Why don't you why what are your thoughts on why people cannot wake up to all these kind of facts?
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What you just described, essentially a coup d'etat, a color revolution.
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What keeps them from going, oh my gosh, what's going on here?
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So those are two different questions, but I'd like you to tackle them if you would, please.
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Okay, so let's let's talk NATO first.
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Um, NATO, as I mentioned, was set up uh half a century, well over half a century ago to protect Western democracies from Soviet uh hegemony in Western Europe.
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Um Trump, I believe Trump believes and sees the same thing.
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I see.
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Those democracies are no longer functioning democracies, by and large.
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Most, I mean, few of the European leaders, Georgia Maloney is uh is an exception to this, but uh most of the European leaders of these countries like France and the UK and Germany, uh, the major European powers are not legitimate leaders.
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They weren't elected.
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In free, really truly free election.
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They were elected in rigged elections, just like the 2020 election in the United States was rigged.
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They are they have ceased to be functioning democracies.
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Uh, and and and have ceased to a large extent to be free countries.
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Uh, the UK is a primary example of this.
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They've they've now put 12,000 of their citizens in jail for inconvenient posts on X and Facebook, okay.
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Prosecuted 12,000 citizens for this.
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The this is not a functioning democracy, it's not a free country anymore, and it's not its values are no longer aligned with the values of the United States and our Republican form of government.
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And so I I think Trump sees this.
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He he sees uh the surrender of uh trillions of dollars of American treasure protecting Europe from the Soviet Union, which hasn't existed for 35 years.
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Uh, I mean, we have to remember Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 completely, went away.
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Uh, and you know, Russia's a paper tiger replacement for it, and he he just doesn't see the utility for the United States in continuing this farcical security alignment that NATO represents.
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Uh, and so he's that's that's created a lot of tension between the United States and Europe in this second term.
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At the same time, the choices on energy, the the divergent choices now that the United States is making related to energy compared to what the EU and the UK are making to relate it to energy is another source of increasing tension, and and all these new regulations the EU is putting in place, you know, to force uh American companies that want to do business in Europe to bend to their will of all this insanity around climate alarmism.
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This is a major source of of big time tension between the United States and these European countries now, and so as this global new global order expands uh and evolves into to being here, all these countries are going to be left with a choice.
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Do I do I want to be a part of the American orbit now?
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Uh and trading blocks and security arrangements related to that, or do I want to be uh is it more advantageous to my evolving country's security interest to be aligned with China?
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Uh Mark Carney, uh the prime minister of Canada made Canada's choice a couple of weeks ago.
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Yes, he did, bending the knee to Xi Jinping and overtly talking about how this is going to serve his country well in what he called the emerging new world order.
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He said it just like that, really emphasized it because he sees what's happening too, and he's made his choice.
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Now, I don't believe Trump's gonna allow that choice to stand because you what we also see happening.
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I'm sure you have questions about this, but we'll talk about it.
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You know, Trump's application of the Monroe Doctrine to rid the Western hemisphere of China and Russia's influence, and um, and so you know, Carney is making a very dangerous choice for his country by doing that.
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Yeah, because Canada, you know, has this conceit that it's a European country, but it's not, it's a western hemisphere country, and uh, you know, I mean, it just is what it is.
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Yeah, I uh I want to give the audience too what what David's also talking about with the climate stuff, which first off tell everyone you have the best way that you mock these people.
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What what do you call it?
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The church of climate what what's your phrase?
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Global church of climate alarm, yes, uh a trademark on that one.
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Uh global church, yeah.
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So just so you know, I love that the first I've I've written about politics for a long time in many different venues.
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The first time I referred to uh what was then called global warming as a religious exercise was in 1996, the column I wrote in 1996, so 30 years ago now.
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Wow, uh it was quite obvious, I think to me and many others.
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Um I'm not saying just me, but a lot of people already recognize that long ago that this was more of a left-wing religious exercise than it is any scientific-based pursuit.
14:36
The scary part you talked about, the EU, the whole emission issue is what is referred to as scope one, two, and three emissions for the audience.
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Scope one means um a factory, that's scope one, they're emitting things in the air.
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Second is the people who use it who are using the factories product.
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That's yeah, that's scope two.
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And scope three, the dangerous part, which people like the United States and Qatar are even threatening, they won't sell natural gas to the EU anymore, which by the way, is two to three times the cost of what it would have if they did their own, sometimes even for forex the cost, but scope three is saying that my I have to then go and look at the emissions of the people supplying me, which I anyone I would tell you that's impossible, or it's not that anything's not possible, it's how expensive something would be, and it would just kill the cost of the but I I contend it's impossible.
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I believe it's impossible to do it in any real way.
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Yeah, you can make up formulas and estimates, you know, all you want and try to do that and come up with some stupid estimate of what it is, but it's not going to be accurate, it's impossible to do that accurately.
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There's just too many millions of moving parts for an exile mobile to try to do scope three, it's it's just not possible to do it in any real sense, me you know, other than complying with some stupid idiotic regulation written by some bureaucrat in Brussels.
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Exactly.
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Now I want to ask you now.
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Let's go to the part two, and then I'll yeah, part two.
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I didn't agree.
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Part two.
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No, no, that's fine.
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I've asked you two big questions.
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Let me uh I'll help guide us here.
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Why aren't people understanding that color revolutions are taking place, and why aren't people understanding that an election was more than likely stolen?
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Well, so we have this enormous propaganda brainwashing complex, you know, in the United States that's a combination of the Democratic Party and its talking points, constantly evolving narratives.
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Uh, the the mainstream media complex, the legacy media outlets that are just purely propaganda now, CNN, MSNBC, the networks, uh, the New York Times, pure propaganda, absolute pure propaganda that would make some of it would make Goebbels blush, you know, and and uh and stalin.
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It would, yeah, Stalin would look at it and think, man, why didn't I think of these things, you know, on CNN and MSNBC?
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Um so it's it's just it's just wild in that reform.
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And then and then, you know, there's the fact that uh the business community in the United States and the Republican Party sat back and did nothing as our entire education system was turned over to the hippies, the 1960s hippie generation that got out of college, went into you know, became teachers and and into the education system, and we all just sat back and let that happen and did nothing to stop it, nothing to try to rein it in.
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And in fact, the Carter administration created the Department of Education to oversee it and encourage it, and so we've completely our kids aren't educated to understand these things.
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We used to teach our children in this country, our education system was set up to try to teach children how to think, how to you know, logic classes, how to reason logically, think through the facts, debate each other on the merits of certain issues, and and try to at least train their minds on how to think you know, in the context of Western society.
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Now our system and in the 60s and well, and starting in the 70s, we we changed all that to teach them what to think.
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And so children as young as nursery schoolers are propagandized about trans issues.
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I mean, we got this crap in in nursery schools now going on from nursery school through graduate courses in college, you're taught what to think, not how to think.
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And so we have a bunch of highly educated ignoramuses running around our country now, uh, who who couldn't tell you what a color revolution even is.
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And if you took a poll because of the brainwashing exercises in our media, if you took a poll of 500 Americans, average guys on the street, uh, I I doubt three percent of them could tell you what a color revolution is.
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Okay, well, so that that's why.
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I mean, we just have an intentional ignorance in our population that's been a long-term project of the Democratic Party and its support mechanisms.
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I always crack up the whole people, the whole thing.
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I stand with Ukraine.
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I I've I always go show me then where the Donbass is.
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Right, yeah, they don't give you a couldn't point to Ukraine on a map.
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Yeah, tell me tell me what is the Donbass.
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Tell me Ukraine's role in World War II.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, do you do why does Vladimir Putin keep talking about Nazis in Ukraine?
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Yeah.
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Tell me what the Azov battalion is.
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Like, if you can tell me these things and you still want to stand with Ukraine.
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Man, I must support you on all those things, but yeah.
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Yeah.
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What percentage of our population do you think could do that?
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Any of those.
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Answer any of those questions.
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I doubt it's one percent.
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Uh yeah, I was about to say it's it's not an I don't even know if most graduates will most students at international could the Georgetown uh foreign uh relations school answer those questions.
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I doubt it.
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I'd be shocked if most professors could answer that question.
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Yeah.
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Um well that's you're so correct about the people, and and it's just a it's an absolutely beyond scary thing.
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Um let's get back to your to your article.
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So I now I want to frame this one as like because you just talked about the media, institutional trust and media.
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In your piece, yeah, you criticize what you call the corrupt legacy meat legacy media, so the corrupt legacy media for framing events in an isolated or miss or misleading ways, i.e.
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propaganda.
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Can you unpack more of that?
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Like how you see the media narratives being deployed domestically, internationally.
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For example, my show last week in situation like Minnesota's color revolution and how that's affecting public perception then of conservatives or even religious communities.
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Well, so the media coordinates and I've actually said it on one of these calls during the Clinton administration.
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Um since the Clinton years, there's been a morning coordination daily between the news media and the Democratic Party.
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Uh, there was a conference call that used to be led by Mike uh George Stephanopoulos during the Clinton years that I actually sat in on one morning secretly along with uh a good friend who was uh really tuned in lobbyist in DC at the time.
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Okay.
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I shouldn't mention his name, but he was a wonderful, wonderful man.
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Okay.
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Uh you said, but you actually sat in on a call with sat in and listened to him.
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Where's like ABC and MBC and CBS with his chief Stephanopoulos communications director?
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And uh watched it all get rolled out on the evening newscast that night.
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I mean, it was really an eye-opening experience.
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And uh course now it's more sophisticated and it's on signal chats and you know, other supposedly secure communications means, but it's the same thing.
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They coordinate messages every day.
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They talk, they determine what their you know, their panels on CNN are gonna look like uh and what the evening newscasts are going to cover, and and equally as importantly what they're not going to cover.
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So you see, you I mean, I I've written a lot here recently about the the similarities in the events uh in 1861 that led to the Fort Sumter attack and the advent of war uh the civil war to what we see happening now in Minnesota and Maine and California, Illinois, and these governors, these democratic governors using the not just similar language, but the exact same phraseologies used in 1861 by the governors of the Confederate states, all of whom were Democrats too.
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The Democratic Party, we have to remember, was set up.
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It originally was founded to preserve the institution of slavery in the United States.
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And and all those governors and all those states, the Confederate states that seceded from the United States were Democrats, and all the governors we see today trying to nullify federal primacy in certain aspects of the law and enforcement of immigration law.
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They're all Democrats.
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Yep.
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Nothing has changed in a hundred and whatever it is, 165 years since 1861.
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It's all Democrats.
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It's still the central focus of the Democrat Party to nullify federal authority in certain aspects of the law.
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Now it's different aspects this time, but it's still the same principle, and they're used in the exact same language.
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I grew up in the 60s and 70s and 80s when the Democratic Party, if you talk said the words states rights or the 10th Amendment, a Democrat would immediately point a finger at you and call you a racist.
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Okay.
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I just read a piece at Vanity Fair, an interview, not in the Atlantic with Tim Waltz, who repeatedly talks about the importance of the 10th Amendment and the importance of states' rights.
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I mean, it's it's it's a stunning, shocking transformation.
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And I've I've in recent interviews, uh, Gavin Newsom's done the same thing in J.B.
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Pritzker in Illinois, same kind of language.
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It's exactly the same playbook as the Confederate governors used in the lead up to the Civil War.
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Yep.
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And it just a coincidence.
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Um no, never mind.
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But I mean, Trump uh last Sunday put out a two-page or two posts on True Social in which he laid out to Tim Watts what he expected to happen in Minnesota in order to execute a drawdown of the custom border patrol and ice personnel that were in that city.
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And I I read a book, a wonderful book uh called um oh my god, I'm gonna forget the author's name now.
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You got to tell me the book is all certainly included in the show notes.
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About the lead up to Fort Sumter.
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Um, it's called Lead Up to Fort Sumter.
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Yeah, oh, it's the uh Eric Larson book.
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Um, and I can't remember the title of the book, but it's his most recent book.
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He's the Eric Larson's the greatest uh historic writer of our time.
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Uh he wrote he's written a bunch of different books in recent years.
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But anyway, um the the language Trump used in the those two posts directed at Tim Waltz is very reminiscent of letters Abraham Lincoln wrote in the lead up to Fort Sumter to the various Southern governors.
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Okay, same kinds of demands, same kind of respect for federal primacy in certain areas of the law, etc.
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etc.
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Yeah.
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So we have all this happening, and in and I have long you have to understand the context from where I come from.
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I've long written about my belief that the Democratic Party wants a civil war in this country, a second civil war.
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I agree.
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Because the Democratic Party has just one overarching um reason for being, and that is the acquisition and maintenance of political power.
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And I think the party has come to the conclusion that ultimately they're gonna have to force a second civil war in this country to remain a viable political party.
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And so that's I believe what all of this is going on right now.
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This attempt to foment a color revolution on American soil is about.
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It's about the Democratic Party trying to meet that overarching reason for its its being, and it's being led by these these democratic governors in these these big blue states.
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Okay, I've got to take a break.
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That's a great place to stop.
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Um I want to come back and I'm gonna I'm gonna we're gonna go down that path.
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But also, I want you to talk about two, you know, where you where you've seen within the piece the stolen 2020 election, just so you know, I think factually, and I'll give some interesting facts.
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I'll I'm gonna make it a little longer than normal.
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But anyway, this is Todd Royal.
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I'm the host of uh Geopower Energy and Real Politics.
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I'm with David Blackman.
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Uh, we're gonna take a break and we'll be back in just a moment.
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America outloud.
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Liberty and justice for all.
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Frankly, the world and kind of the Western democracies called the old water is the old world order is dead.
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You can find David on Substack.
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I highly recommend that you subscribe to his Substacks.
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If you want to know anything about energy and frankly, more about politics, David's a real must read on a daily basis.
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David, we were talking about you, you said really you believe, and you're seeing this more and more that the Democrats they just won a civil war.
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This is no longer the party of Harry Truman or Scoop Jackson or John F.
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Kennedy.
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You know, those are people, they'd all be Republicans today.
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That you have people like Tim Waltz and J.D.
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Pritzker and Gavin Newsom, these whether they go to China or these wealthy individuals that believe all this crap because they want chaos.
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They want to collapse the United States, or they want to collapse Illinois, Minnesota, or California.
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So then they have more control.
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Let me throw this at you.
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I like you believe that we are headed towards a civil war.
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And I think the only thing that's stopping it, and I'm going to be religious right now, is the grace of God.
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And by God, I mean, you know, the God of the Bible, or the God of the Jewish Bible, as our founders would have called it.
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Um I think the only thing that's going to keep us from it is either a massive religious awakening, some of the ones you'd seen in California before.
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Uh the Jesus movement that you probably grew up in a little bit.
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So I think it's either this massive religious awakening, and people, you know, the Antifas or the socialists are people that are going to turn to Jesus Christ, or we eventually go to civil war, or all good people and Republicans roll over and play dead.
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I personally don't think they'll roll over and play dead because I think there's about I think there's about 40 million Americans who are highly armed.
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Yeah.
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And would love nothing more than to burn down places like San Francisco, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, New York City to the ground and start over.
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And it pains me to say that because I love all those cities.
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I was just in San Francisco.
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They're all made I've been to New York last four years, but based on what I just said, which is I kind of sigh when I say it, David.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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I mean, comp make comments on whether religion or do you see any way that we get out of this path that looks like we are going to be headed towards shooting at one another again?
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Well, it's it's so it's it's hard to see a way out, to be honest with you.
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I mean, yeah, I do believe there's already a bit of a religious revival happening in the country, and uh some of that uh has been germinated by the assassination of Charlie Kirk, but it was happening before then too.
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And so I'm I mean, I think that's a positive movement in our society.
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But of course, you have this other side, this other side uh led by the Democratic Party and its media uh adherents that um you know is viciously opposed to that, every aspect of it, and not just Christianity, but also Judaism.
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I mean, you see this this rising, not just not just disagreement uh with the Jewish community and the Democratic Party, but but but hatred and fomenting and trying to gin up the hatred of the Jewish community in Israel in our country that's really been going on since um, you know.
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I mean, I think AOC, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez was really kind of the uh germination point for a lot of that, her election and her obvious anti-Semitism and the other uh few members of her squad um who are all raging anti-Semites, and they they have gained increasing influence and power in the Democratic Party, and I believe uh AOC will be a nominee, uh, a presidential nominee for the Democratic Party, possibly as early as 2028, but more likely in 32 or 36.
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Totally agree.
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I just think that's an inevitability if we still have election systems of elections happening in our country by those years.
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And I think that that was her trajectory from from day one.
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I think she's uh another kind of Barack Obama kind of manchurian candidate in the Democratic Party.
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Um so I I mean, I I just think that that's it's just it's when you have a major political party with that which is in control of de facto control of so many of our institutions in the entertainment industry and the media, uh, it becomes really hard to avoid where that party wants to go, just in terms of creating a second civil war.
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Um, and and it's chaos for chaos' sake, but it's also chaos for the for the point of bringing down the Republicans form of government under our constitution that the Democrat Party has always hated from from the day of its establishment.
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From the day, yeah.
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And uh has all has worked from that day to eliminate and so it's been a long time.
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But I mean, we really saw this move, I believe, uh uh really start to take hold of the leadership of the Democratic Party in the Clinton years.
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Bill and Hillary Clinton, who whose first action upon coming in uh really in their campaign was to eliminate actual debate over issues as a anything the Democratic Party should be involved in.
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Um they were the ones who implemented the form of communication in the Democratic Party where you don't debate issues anymore.
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You don't you don't go sit on these panels and and try to debate talking points.
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What you do is demonize the opposition.
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You know, everything is you get asked a question and you don't answer the question, you bridge it over to an answer one of your five key talking points, and then you say, and the Republicans are evil for opposing me on this.
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The old rule, the old rules for radicals that Hillary Clinton.
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It's the Solinsky technology.
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It's the it's the Sololinski rules for radicals and Hillary Clinton famously wrote her master's thesis on Sol Olinski.
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Yep.
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You know, she's she's a disciple and a Linsky disciple from from her early years.
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So none of that's surprising, but it took hold in the Democratic Party.
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It it uh and now the entire leadership of the Democratic Party believes this stuff, okay, and and they function based on Olinski's principles, which Olinski's principles are designed to do what?
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To foment a civil war in the United States for the goal of bringing down the government and our Republican form of democracy.
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So none of this is accidental.
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It's been a long 35 year process to get to this point since since Clinton's first election.
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And um, so I just don't, I you know, I look at I think about a lot.
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How do we avoid this?
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How do we avoid this?
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Well, the one way Republicans can avoid it is to surrender.
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I mean, we can all just say, okay, you know, we'll we'll be good little communists and go along with what you want.
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Yep.
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I don't think that's in the cards.
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And the Democrats really I don't know what they're their thinking is on this because they don't have the guns.
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No.
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You know, I mean, probably 75-80% of the guns in this country, uh, are in hands of people who disagree with what they're trying to do.
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And so if it does come down to a shooting civil war, which I hope and probably never happens, um, they're probably going to lose.
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Uh I think the one potential does exist, and uh, I'm sure you're familiar with Kurt Schlichter.
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Yeah, uh, who's there's a really good writer uh at town hall.com and has written a series of books, in which the premise for the books is that the United States has undergone what he calls a national divorce, where most of the blue states have uh seceded from the country and formed their own country, uh, you know, states like California and the New England states, New York, Illinois, the West Coast, the East Coast, East Coast, and and certain parts, Minnesota in the central part of the country, Chicago, New Mexico, Colorado, yeah.
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And the rest of the country stays together, and and so they try to coexist with one another with with varying results.
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Which which the problem with Kurt's premise is that look at Europe, right?
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Uh and that's what you end up with, right?
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Is a Europe kind of situation where you're in constant conflict.
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Yeah, you're in constant conflict.
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Yeah, um, America has has fought in two world wars to try to solve Europe's problems for them and failed.
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And Europe is still doing the same thing, which by the way, in that regard, I don't know if you saw that um uh Merz, you know, the the chancellor of Germany just said they've been in consultations with their European partners, you know, France and the UK to develop nuclear weapons.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it's it's it's lunacy.
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He uh at that point, um, if Frederick Mertz thinks that he's gonna go develop a nuclear weapon, not just with American troops on their soil, but with Russia next door, yeah.
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He's um there I I if anyone in Germany is listening to this, you better rise up real quick because if you your fears of being invaded by Russia will happen.
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Yeah, I mean, what these these European leaders recently have been losing sight of is the fact that part as part of NATO and America's agreement to spend 100 billion dollars a year protecting them from themselves.
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Yeah, we you know, the United States has military presence in virtually every probably every single European country right now, you know, with thousands and thousands of troops and American uh military equipment sitting right there on your continent.
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And if you try to make these moves, you keep threatening, well, you're not in a good position to make these kinds of threats.
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And and I'm not a warmonger, I'm really not.
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I love Europe.
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I've been to Europe many times and just love it over there.
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Oh, it's wonderful people there.
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Yeah, it's wonderful.
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So I'm not a warmonger.
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What I try to do is is just look at what's happening and try to make sense of it.
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And uh, for the readers uh, you know, at my substack, and um it just uh you know, I I've held off a long time writing that piece on Sunday because I just don't want these things to happen, and I don't want to be seen as as a promoter of these things because I'm not.
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I'm I'm hoping and praying we can avoid it all.
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But uh, as you get further into it, it it just seems really hard to avoid, right?
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I mean, it's just hard to see what the way out is.
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Well, let me I'm gonna pivot with us a little bit here, and I want to go back to the 2020 election.
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And people I can hear some going, why are you bringing all this up?
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And Joe Biden won.
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Well, he didn't.
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No, he didn't.
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So there's a piece that I've kept in my phone now for over five years.
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Um, and I'm gonna give the I'm gonna I'm gonna put these facts out, and then I want you to comment on it in regards to your piece as well.
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Yeah, so the Federalist on November 23rd of 2020 put out a piece called Five More Ways Joe Biden magically outperformed election norms.
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Now, this was before we all knew um that he was sick, that the the poor man has dementia or Alzheimer's or something.
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It's obvious that the former vice president was a very sick man when he was mistakenly given the oath of office to become the president of the United States.
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So here's can I emphasize that point for just a second?
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Please, please.
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I've known since 2014 Joe Biden has dementia.
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It's been an open secret in Washington DC since 2014 that he was suffering from dementia.
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I had only progressed and become worse since anyway.
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Go ahead.
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Wow, I had no idea about that.
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But yeah, you're your work in DC that you've done for decades.
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So Mr.
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Shirk uh says this was 2020.
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He goes, uh Joe Biden got 80 million votes in the 2020 election, basically uh more votes than Barack Obama.
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Um yeah, he shattered Barack Obama's totals.
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Barack Obama, who is very popular, yeah.
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Um he won despite losing most bellwether counties.
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Um he loses the states of Ohio and Florida, but he still won the election.
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Um Biden uh supposedly this it was like since the mafia allegedly aided John F.
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Kennedy in Will in winning Illinois over Nixon in 60 has an American president pulled off such a trick.
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Um he lost again almost every historic bellwether uh uh county across the country.
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Um the the Wall Street Journal and the Epic Times back in 2020 analyzed the results of 19 counties around the U.S.
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to have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years.
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President Trump won every single Bearweather County in 2020, except except Plallham County in Washington.
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Um yet Trump's margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 18 points.
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Uh Biden won in 2020 to stop despite democratic losses everywhere else.
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Um he was the Trump was the only uh incumbent at that point uh in U.S.
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history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.
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Now that was a Biden and Democratic Party miracle.
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Um it back in 2020, the Cook political report, and even the New York Times rated 27 house seats as toss-ups going into election day.
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Uh basically it looks like back then the Republicans won all 27, and the Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber.
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Uh well, at this point, the Republicans flipped both the House and the Senate in even places like New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.
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The last one, Biden overcame Trump's commanding primary vote.
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Uh primary vote totals typically are very accurate in predicting general election winners.
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Um no incumbent who has received 75% of the total primary vote has lost re-election.
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Trump did Trump received 94% of the primary vote, which was the fourth highest total of all time, higher than uh FDR, Nixon, Clinton, or even Obama.
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In fact, Trump was only one of five incumbents incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90% of the primary vote.
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And lastly, uh Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020.
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The previous record was held by Bill Clinton, which was half of that number.
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I served this up to you, go to your piece.
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What would be your commentary on all this?
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Well, I mean, clearly the election was stolen.
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I 70% of Americans now understand that there were severe voter fraud issues going on during the 2020 election.
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I had you know, and and we spent a few years after the 2020 election before Elon Musk bought Twitter, in which you would be actually suspended and even banned from Facebook or Twitter or Instagram for saying for reading that piece you've just read, right?
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If you if you posted any of that on those platforms, you would be suspended.
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I was suspended four times on Twitter, uh, and three times on Facebook for just telling the truth about the 2020 election and the irregularities happen.
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Oh, David, I didn't I didn't know that.
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Say I'm sorry, would you say that again for the audience?
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How many times?
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Say that again, please.
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Uh four times on Twitter before I just uh canceled my account entirely.
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I just got off of it for a while and then came back and with a different account later after Musk bought it.
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Uh Elon Musk saved free speech, by the way, by doing that.
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I mean, we we all owe him a tremendous bit of gratitude because we're about to go the way of Nazi Germany in that regard.
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Uh and and I think that's just a matter of historic fact, too.
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But on the 2020 election, so what what we all saw at 1:30 central time, uh the uh the morning after election day was that all the voting vote counting processes in six different states, and every one of which Trump held a
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Substantial lead, shut down for an hour and a half simultaneously.
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Quit counting votes for an hour and a half.
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Came back an hour and a half later, and suddenly enormous hundreds of thousands of votes, virtually all of which were cast for Joe Biden somehow, magically appeared in the vote counts.
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And we were told that this was perfectly normal.
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And what were those states?
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This was Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada.
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Clearly a coordinated effort, unprecedented in American history, that anything like that had ever happened.
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We were given all sorts of cock and bull stories about why it happened, like in Fulton County.
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They had a plumbing issue, a plumbing issue, uh, where the votes were being counted, and so they had to stop for an hour and a half.
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Well, it was a different excuse in Philadelphia, different excuse in Milwaukee, different excuse in Madison.
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You know, I mean, you know, in Minneapolis and you know, Maricopa County and Los Vegas, you know, we had a different cock and bull story for all six states.
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But the fact of the matter is it all happened simultaneously, a clearly coordinated effort.
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They had determined how many votes they needed to steal, and they stole them to put Joe Biden over the top in the electrical in an electoral college.
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Um and we just, you know, I mean, we were forced basically by the media and the political establishment to accept all that.
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Uh, because to to not accept it would mean social cancellation, and you're you're being banned from all the social media platforms and you're losing your jobs.
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Remember, a lot of people got fired.
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Yes, for telling the truth, not just about the election, but about COVID, saying true things about COVID that we now everybody recognizes as absolute fact.
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If you said it during 21 or 22, you can get fired.
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And we and we we tend to lose sight of all that.
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We were very nearly lost as a country as a result.
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So, you know, there's no question that the 2020 election was stolen by Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, and we had an illegitimate presidency for four years, led by a man who didn't know where he was most of the time, and we know that for a fact, too, don't we?
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And nobody really argues about that anymore.
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Uh and so, and and we know all these facts about COVID that nobody argues about anymore.
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It's taken us longer to get to accepting all the facts about what happened in 2020 election, but we're going to get to that too.
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And within a year or two, everyone's gonna know what the truth really is.
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Okay, it's just taking a little longer with the election, and it started uh the you know, the the raid last week in Fulton County by the FBI is a part of that.
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They seized all those records because the election judges, uh, the Secretary of State, who claims to be a Republican, Brad Raffensperger and his people have been begging judges in that state to let them destroy all those records for the last five years and failing, you know, the judges.
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What is it?
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Why does a guy like that?
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Like, what is his what is that scumbag's deal?
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Like I mean, we can speculate, okay, just pure speculation.
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Yeah, speculate.
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I'm just like I those are the kind of things for me, David, that just they just blow my mind.
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Well, I think it's money.
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Okay, Rappensberger is the guy who did the deal with Dominion Systems to use Dominion Systems and the Georgia statewide election processes.
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And I I'd be willing to bet if you did an audit of his finances, and if you followed it all the followed the money stream all the way through, he probably got a big kickback for doing that.
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And that's a very common thing across our country, by the way.
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Uh and so I just think it's a money thing for him.
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He and he he doesn't care, he's not a political ideologue of any kind, and neither is the governor there.
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And and so they're perfectly happy to get rich and and and let it all go to hell.
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And and that's what they did in their state.
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And I think we'll end up finding all that out too.
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Um so you know, that's the beginning.
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And we we need to all accept that we're gonna see similar kind of actions taking place in the months to come in these other five states.
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I mean, uh, because this happened in every one of those states, and uh, and Joe Biden was not a legitimate president, and and we we our history is gonna record that uh we were subjected to four-year uh effort by the Democratic Party to destroy our country with an illegitimate sock puppet for the deep state sitting in the White House.
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Um and in that that's why I I put that election event at the center of everything that's that we now see happening because it is at the center of it.
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Where did Dominion and Smartmatic originate and these efforts to defraud elections all over the world, not just the United States in Venezuela?
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We had three overarching goals related to Venezuela when we took Maduro out, stopped drug trafficking, revitalized the oil sector, you know, and reinstitutionalized democratic processes, but the other one was rooting out all the leftovers of that vote uh election rigging infrastructure that that still existed in Venezuela.
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And I'm sure that's probably already happened, and we may never hear about exactly how it happened.
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Sure.
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Uh, because that was the the nerve center of all of this.
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And and if you read uh um recent book called Stolen Elections, you realize that they've rigged elections in 70 different countries now, including a lot of the European countries I mentioned earlier, including Brazil, uh, with Lula da Silva's fraudulent election in 2022, which used exactly the same tactics that were used in the United States to steal the 2020 election.
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Um, you know, and and you you got all these leaders in Europe uh who are still in power that shouldn't be there as a result of similar kinds of things.
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Um, so Venezuela is really kind of at the center of all of it, and it's also at the center of Trump's project to use uh the Monroe Doctrine to clear China and Russia out of the Western Hemisphere.
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Um, that all would have happened starting five years ago had the 2020 election not been stolen.
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David, thank you for your time.
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I appreciate it.
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I I know I kind of got you on short notice on this one, so thank you for making the time.
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Uh my guest is David Blackman, 40 plus years uh energy politics.
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Uh, if you're not reading his substack, I highly recommend it.
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Uh listen to his podcast, go to Stu Turley's podcast as well.
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These guys are doing work on energy that are really second to none right now.
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They're doing it in a way that's easy to understand.
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It's also very accessible.
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So thank you again.
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My name is Todd Royal.
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I'm the host of Geopower Energy and Real Politics.
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Uh and as always, God bless.
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Thank you so much.