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Speaker 1: James insturb goold Reform It good evening.
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Speaker 2: Coming up on the show tonight, former Victorian Premier Jeff
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Speaker 2: Kennett joins me to talk about how he felt hearing
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews had received the King's Birthday honor. The Australian's
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Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan on the growing threat to Christianity and the
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Speaker 2: Tories hope to win the UK election with votes from Australia.
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Speaker 2: Esther Craku will explain later in the show, but first,
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Speaker 2: for Israeli hostages were freed in a daring rescue at
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Speaker 2: the weekend, leaving leftists around the world heartbroken.
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Speaker 1: I'm serious.
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Speaker 2: While Israel celebrated the rescue of its citizens from the
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Speaker 2: clutches of maniacal terrorists, many around the Western world were upset,
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Speaker 2: even appalled. British newspaper columnist Owen Jones was disgusted that
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Speaker 2: anyone would celebrate Jews being saved from captivity. In a
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Speaker 2: tweet that Pharaoh himself would have approved, Owen said this
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Speaker 2: is a grave, grave war crime. Shame on those celebrating it. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: Australian broadcaster Clementine Ford will she slammed the idea for
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Speaker 2: being gleeful at saving Jews.
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Speaker 3: You know, there is really something so ghoulish about a
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Speaker 3: regime that has done so many horrific things already, but
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Speaker 3: almost seems like a gleeful about outdoing themselves to disguise
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Speaker 3: combatants as humanitarian aid to slaughter two hundred people.
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Speaker 2: It's simply insane that people are mad at Israel for
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Speaker 2: rescuing the hostages, rather than being mad at Harmas for
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Speaker 2: taking hostages in the first place. They also seem surprised
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Speaker 2: at using civilians to hide hostages in high density residential
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Speaker 2: areas full of civilians in dangers.
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Speaker 1: Civilians well who knew.
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Speaker 2: The ABC's Global affairs editor John Lyons reported on the
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Speaker 2: amazing news of hostages being rescued like this breaking hostage
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Speaker 2: rescue Gars and authorities say at least two hundred and
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Speaker 2: ten Palestinians killed and four hundred wounded during heavy bombardment
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Speaker 2: of camp during rescue of the four Israelis. It's a
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Speaker 2: perverse emphasis, isn't it lamenting the number of captors killed
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Speaker 2: rather than the number of captives freed. For the record,
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Speaker 2: Israel claims about one hundred Palestinians were killed in the
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Speaker 2: rescue operation, including terrorists. They also claim that Hamas fighters
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Speaker 2: used rocket grenade launches in the firefight that ensued. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is just me spitballing, but I'd say that using
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Speaker 2: grenade launches in a built up area is probably not
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Speaker 2: the greatest idea when you're super worried about civilian casualties.
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Speaker 2: Then again, since when has Hamas ever worried about Palestinian deaths?
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Speaker 2: Which is why they hid hostages in the tightly packed
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Speaker 2: residential area of Nuzeret. A lot of people were outraged
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Speaker 2: at civilians imprisoning the hostages were killed in the Israeli raid. Well,
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Speaker 2: here's my contrarian take on the situation. Don't hold Israeli
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Speaker 2: hostages in your apartment. After all, research shows that holding
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Speaker 2: Israeli hostages is tightly correlated with reduced life expectancy. Australian
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Speaker 2: actor Guy Pierce, who will always have a special place
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Speaker 2: in our hearts for his role as Mike Young in Neighbors, tweeted,
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Speaker 2: I'm pleased hostages are home, but let's not be distracted
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Speaker 2: and forget all about the unnecessary Palestinian deaths. See this
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Speaker 2: is why you shouldn't drink Hamas kool aid. It makes
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Speaker 2: you stupid. What did Guy Peace think bring them home
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Speaker 2: meant vibes, memes, essays, and what does he mean by
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Speaker 2: don't let the rescue of hostages be a distraction? The
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Speaker 2: rescue of hostages has been the entire point since they
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Speaker 2: were captured two hundred and forty six days ago. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: I thought, of all people, Guy Peace, starring in a
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Speaker 2: show called Neighbors, would have understood how important it is
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Speaker 2: for Israel to secure its boundaries when living next door
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Speaker 2: to a terrorist camp. While on the subject of fictional actors,
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Speaker 2: the UN's Special Rappertoire Francesca Alberanizi tweeted relieved that four
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Speaker 2: hostages have been released.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet she is. Let's see just how relieved.
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Speaker 2: She goes on to say it should not have come
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Speaker 2: at the expense of at least two hundred Palestinians, including children,
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Speaker 2: killed and over four hundred injured by Israel and allegedly
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Speaker 2: foreign soldiers while perfidiously hiding in an AID truck. Well,
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Speaker 2: the Israeli soldiers wouldn't have had to perfidiously hide in
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Speaker 2: an AID truck if Hamas terrorists had not perfidiously hidden
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Speaker 2: hostages in a residential apartment block, or if they had
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Speaker 2: not perfidiously taken hostages in the first place. By the way,
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Speaker 2: if you don't know what perfidious means, it means treacherous.
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Speaker 2: Kind of like a UN court contemplating the arrest of
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Speaker 2: an Israeli prime minister for doing whatever it takes to
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Speaker 2: rescue hostages. Francesca Albanesi continued, Israel has used hostages to
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Speaker 2: legitimize killing, injuring, maiming, starving, and traumatizing Palestinians in Gaza.
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Speaker 1: What you mean, like how the Allies.
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Speaker 2: Used Jews in concentration camps to legitimize killing, injuring and
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Speaker 2: maiming Germans in Berlin. The UN special reperteur finished with this.
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Speaker 2: Israel could have freed all hostages alive and intact eight
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Speaker 2: months ago when the first ceasefire and hostage exchange was
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Speaker 2: put on the table. Honestly, some things are so stupid
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Speaker 2: you'd have to be a UN official to say them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's right, of course, Israel could.
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Speaker 2: Have had all hostages back eight months ago if only
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Speaker 2: that agreed to have October seven repeated a thousand times over,
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Speaker 2: as this SAMAS official promised.
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Speaker 4: Not so, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Here's how El Jazeera reported the miraculous rescue of Israeli hostages.
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Speaker 2: Death toll from Nuzarat attack rises to two hundred and
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Speaker 2: ten Nuzarat attack.
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Speaker 1: If you didn't know better.
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Speaker 2: Which if you watch El Jazeira means you wouldn't, you'd
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Speaker 2: assume that evil Israelis just attacked Nuzarat for the hell
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Speaker 2: of it. Oh, when it turns out that one of
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Speaker 2: the civilians holding three of the hostages captive in his
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Speaker 2: apartment was a journalist who'd written for El Jazeera. Funny
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Speaker 2: that while we're on bad media takes. A BBC journalist
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Speaker 2: asked a former Israeli military commanders straight faced, why the
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Speaker 2: Israelis didn't let Hamas know that they were on their
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Speaker 2: way to save the hostages, you know, so the whole
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Speaker 2: rescue could have been done nicely.
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Speaker 5: There are reports of women of children who are among
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Speaker 5: the dead. It is appearing to be our high civilian
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Speaker 5: death toll. Would there have been a warning to those
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Speaker 5: civilians for them to get out on time.
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Speaker 4: Or sure?
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Speaker 6: Of course, we cannot anticipate Israel to be warning ahead
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Speaker 6: of a raid to extract or to save hostages, because
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Speaker 6: then what the terrorists would do is to kill the hostages.
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Speaker 2: Now, I know it's a rough day for the left
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Speaker 2: leaning media when Jewish hostages are rescued, but they could
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Speaker 2: at least try to contain their disappointment. Speaking of people
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Speaker 2: having a hard time coping, Green's leader Adam Bant tweeted,
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Speaker 2: we want all hostages released, we want all political prisoners released,
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Speaker 2: and we want to know how the killing of two
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Speaker 2: hundred plus Palestinians in last night's attack can be justified. Well,
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Speaker 2: mister Bant, hamas set the price. Let's hope and pray
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Speaker 2: no Australians are ever kidnapped by a rape ye terrorist
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Speaker 2: cult while the Greens.
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Speaker 1: Have a say on policy.
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Speaker 2: How hard is it to understand that you can't take
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Speaker 2: hot hostages from their beds, keep them kidnapped for eight months,
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Speaker 2: and then complain about the rescue operation. Now we wait
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Speaker 2: for Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi to congratulate Israel on
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Speaker 2: successfully freeing the hostages from the hands of bloodthirsty terrorists.
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Speaker 1: Any moment. Now we live in.
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Speaker 2: A world in which black is white, up is down,
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Speaker 2: and moral clarity is nowhere to be seen. But thank god,
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Speaker 2: Noah Agamani El mogh Miya, Jan Andre Koslov and Shlomyziv
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Speaker 2: are home with their families tonight. Well, Dan Andrews has
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Speaker 2: been awarded the nation's highest honor, which begs the question
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Speaker 2: is it June.
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Speaker 1: Tenth or is it April first?
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Speaker 2: The man who spent a decade running Victoria into the
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Speaker 2: ground has received a King's Birthday gong for and I quote,
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Speaker 2: eminent service to the people in Parliament of Victoria, to
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Speaker 2: public health, to policy and regulatory reform, and can you
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Speaker 2: believe it? To infrastructure development? Now, the people bestowing this
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Speaker 2: year is King's Birthday honors are trolling us for sure.
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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, West Australian Pandemic Premier Mark
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Speaker 2: McGowan got an award as well, because well, if you
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Speaker 2: know a good joke, you can't tell it too many times,
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Speaker 2: can you.
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: If there was an award for dressing up ludicrous decisions
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Speaker 2: as health advice, I could understand the decision. Remember when
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews banned Victorians from playing.
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Speaker 1: Golf for fear COVID was lurking on the fairways?
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Speaker 2: Well what about when Victorians were forbidden from being out
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Speaker 2: after curfew because COVID was more lethal after dark? If
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Speaker 2: there was an award for blowing the budget. I could
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Speaker 2: understand Dan Andrews being honored. He'll leave his King's Birthday
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Speaker 2: medal to his grandchildren along with trillions of dollars in debt.
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Speaker 2: And if there was an award for dodging ethical charges
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Speaker 2: brought against a government, will hesh you'll get five medals
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Speaker 2: representing the five independent, broad based Anti Corruption Commission inquiries
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Speaker 2: launched into his government within a tw months period. They
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Speaker 2: didn't call him Tethlon Dan for nothing. If mediocrity, cost
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Speaker 2: over runs and political unhealthiness were worthy of awards, Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews should be our most celebrated citizen, but at King's
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Speaker 2: Birthday honor for eminent service.
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Speaker 1: Former Victorian Premier Jeff.
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Speaker 2: Kennett is one of I dare say millions of Australians
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Speaker 2: astonished at this decision, and he joins me, now, Jeff,
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Speaker 2: tell me how you felt when you first heard that
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews had been given this award.
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Speaker 7: I didn't believe it. I thought it was a joke.
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Speaker 7: But when I look further into it, I have come
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Speaker 7: to the conclusion that the Chairperson of the Council of
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Speaker 7: the Order of Australia, Shelley Reave, and the Governor General
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Speaker 7: have both failed all Australians by now rewarding failure and
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Speaker 7: giving to an individual who both on the criteria that
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Speaker 7: was published today, Health infrastructure has so demonstrably failed. So
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Speaker 7: we are now giving the highest civilian award to an
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Speaker 7: individual who has failed. We are recognizing failure and that
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Speaker 7: is unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned health and infrastructure. I'm trying to think
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Speaker 2: of anything Dan Andrews has done to improve the health
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Speaker 2: of Victorians or indeed the health system. And as for infrastructure,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a bit of a joke, there isn't it.
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Speaker 7: Well, it's not a joke in the sense that every
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Speaker 7: major piece of infrastructure is running well over time and
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Speaker 7: well over budget, and he has accumulated a debt that
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Speaker 7: future generations of Victorians will be paying for for years.
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Speaker 7: And because of the interest on that debt, the fundamental
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Speaker 7: services we expect governments to provide, including health, education, law
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Speaker 7: and order, are all in a parlor state. So I
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Speaker 7: have today written to the Governor General. There's no point
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Speaker 7: me complaining without doing something about it, and I have
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Speaker 7: asked the Governor General to rescind this honor. I'd also
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Speaker 7: like to see how this award was given made and considered.
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Speaker 7: After all, mister Andrews only retired in September last year.
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Speaker 7: I don't know who promoted his elevation. I would like
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Speaker 7: to know why it took so quickly and whether, in
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Speaker 7: fact there has been political interference in him being granted
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Speaker 7: this award, And that wouldn't be surprising because the hallmark
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Speaker 7: of Daniel's premiership was just that political interference overburdening the system,
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Speaker 7: the democratic system as we know it. So this is
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Speaker 7: a most unusual award for a character such as mister Andrews.
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Speaker 2: When you say political interference, can you be a bit
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Speaker 2: more exact?
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Speaker 1: What exactly are you suggesting?
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Speaker 7: Well, I can't understand when the fundamental purpose of the
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Speaker 7: orders that go under this particular program are to recognize effort, excellence, etc.
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Speaker 7: And even as their own criteria, as I said to
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Speaker 7: you before, Daniel has failed, dramatically failed. So why has
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Speaker 7: he been given this award? What did miss Raise as
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Speaker 7: Chairman of the Council and her fellow travelers, where's the
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Speaker 7: Governor General been for the last ten years that they
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Speaker 7: haven't seen that this person is an inappropriate person to
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Speaker 7: be receiving the highest award. So I am suspicious that
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Speaker 7: somehow along the line there has been political interference. And
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Speaker 7: I think miss Rays and the Governor General should come
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Speaker 7: out and say publicly how this award was made on
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Speaker 7: what criteria? Because on the published criteria he has failed.
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Speaker 7: And for these orders of a now to have a
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Speaker 7: new criteria, that is, we will the more you fail,
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Speaker 7: the higher your award. It's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that awarding Dan Andrews this honor undermines
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Speaker 2: the honor?
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Speaker 7: Look, I hope not. I mean a lot of people
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Speaker 7: have said that to me today. But when you have
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Speaker 7: a list of those who have been granted awards, there
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Speaker 7: are people who have given voluntary services for years. There's
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Speaker 7: people who have gone well beyond their paid employment. And
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Speaker 7: of course Daniels do nothing but his paid employment. So
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Speaker 7: other people have done charity work, et cetera, c and
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Speaker 7: I have a criteria. When the secretariat from the Governor
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Speaker 7: General rings me wanting my opinion on a person whose
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Speaker 7: name is before them, I always tell them and they
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Speaker 7: understand this. I will not support anyone who has been
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Speaker 7: considered for a reward just because of their paid employment.
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Speaker 7: I will if with their paid employment that they've been
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Speaker 7: doing other community work as well, because there are tens
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Speaker 7: of thousands of Australians who are delivering meals on wheels,
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Speaker 7: who are visiting people in hospitals, who have been doing
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Speaker 7: it for years. All of those deserve an award and
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Speaker 7: recognition before mister Andrews.
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Speaker 2: And just lastly, Jeff, what is this award to Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews State to Victorians, many of whom who suffered badly
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Speaker 2: under his leadership during the pandemic.
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Speaker 7: Yes, well, you know eight hundred Victorians lost their lives
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Speaker 7: because of his administration. We're all going to be suffering
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Speaker 7: this debt for generations to come. Look. I appreciate there
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Speaker 7: will people on his side of politics who support him
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Speaker 7: being recognized, but they too will pay a price over
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Speaker 7: the next two decades and they will realize just what
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Speaker 7: a waste of space, what a tragic waste of administration
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Speaker 7: this has been. So I hope the Governor General might
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Speaker 7: do something. Not holding my breath, I don't know how
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Speaker 7: the Council for the Order of Australian Awards could have
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Speaker 7: possibly come to this conclusion. My comments tonight today are
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Speaker 7: not political, they're actually applying common sense to the awards
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Speaker 7: per se. Forget the politics. How can we possibly now
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Speaker 7: have a situation where our highest civilian awards get given
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Speaker 7: to those who have themselves failed, either in public administration
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Speaker 7: or in broader fields of occupation.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of Australians tonight who would
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Speaker 2: absolutely agree with you.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kennett, thanks so much for your time.
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Speaker 7: Great pleasure, have a great night.
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Speaker 2: Well let's go to our panel for their analysis. I'm
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Speaker 2: joined by former Labor Senator Stephen Conroy and one Naphistion
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Speaker 2: chief of staff James Ashby. Stephen, you once described Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews as one of the greats. I think that was
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Speaker 2: when he resild mind as Premier last September. Does he
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Speaker 2: deserve this King's Birthday honor?
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Speaker 4: Look, I hope you're strapped in because you're not going
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Speaker 4: to enjoy my next contribution. I know Jeff Well, I
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Speaker 4: played golf for Jeff. If we bumped into each other,
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Speaker 4: we'd have a cup of tea. But the Sydney media
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Speaker 4: bubble frankly a moron's you know nothing about Melbourne. Get
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Speaker 4: back in your box. Queensland government re elected. Victorian government
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Speaker 4: reelected with the record majority. West Australian Government re elected
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Speaker 4: with the record majority you represent nobody. No one cares
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Speaker 4: about your views out there in broader Australia. This sort
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Speaker 4: of pathetic, pathetic attack on the Awards secretariat is just
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Speaker 4: mind blowing. Jeff, that was just a pathetic, dummy spit. Okay,
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Speaker 4: I'm terribly sorry. And just before you get excited, Daniel
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Speaker 4: Andrews is not a factional friend of mine or a
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Speaker 4: personal friend of mine. In fact, I wouldn't have spoken
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Speaker 4: to Daniel Andrews more than twice in ten years friend
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Speaker 4: of mine at all. But this sort of pathetic Sydney
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Speaker 4: media bubble. You were wrong about COVID, you're wrong about
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Speaker 4: how to deal with COVID. Suck it up, princesses. Every
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Speaker 4: labor government got re elected and this is in continued
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Speaker 4: continuation of your pathetic media bubble, which the good news
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Speaker 4: for labor was you helped deliver. Your attitude helped deliver
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Speaker 4: federal labor victory four seats in Western Australia because the
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Speaker 4: Sydney media bubble kept attacking the West Australian government. Thank you,
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Speaker 4: you pack of morons, the Sydney media bubble, because you
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Speaker 4: gave labor victory in its own right in the last election.
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Speaker 2: Well, Steve, there's no doubt that Dan Andrews kept winning elections,
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Speaker 2: but eminent services to public health.
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Speaker 1: Really yes, I repeat Sydney.
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Speaker 4: Media bubble hysteria. I call it much worse, except this
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Speaker 4: as a family viewing time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you're just wrong. You could not be more wrong.
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Speaker 4: Australia had to have a tough response. And just in
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Speaker 4: case you didn't notice, but the Liberal government created a
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Speaker 4: completely fictitious organization called the National Cabinet, tried to pretend
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Speaker 4: that it had to have national secrecy, all its own work,
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Speaker 4: all its own work. The federal government outspent every other
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Speaker 4: state government, totally bankrupted the country.
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Speaker 1: We've got to come.
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Speaker 4: In and, as usual, clean up the mess. So if
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Speaker 4: you want to try and pretend that he didn't do
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Speaker 4: the right thing on health, well perhaps any one of
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Speaker 4: the other premiers or the prime minister Liberal Party might
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Speaker 4: have mentioned it at the time they followed the health advice.
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Speaker 4: It was hard in Victoria. You didn't live here, James, Sorry,
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Speaker 4: you didn't live here either. You were all enjoying your
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Speaker 4: time up in Queensland having no COVID at all. Good
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Speaker 4: luck to you. We were locked down. I was locked down.
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Speaker 4: Did I enjoy it, no, But did we do it
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Speaker 4: knowing that it was on the best health advice at
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Speaker 4: the time, that we could ensure that we protected the
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Speaker 4: elderly when they needed the most, and that we had
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Speaker 4: to tough to make sure.
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Speaker 1: Steve, I've got to bring vaccines in, I got to
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Speaker 1: bring happy.
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Speaker 4: To let someone else have a go.
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Speaker 8: On the spray.
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Speaker 9: What do you think, James, eat your heart out, Peter Costello,
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Speaker 9: you got sacked basically for shoving a journalist. Stephen Conroy
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Speaker 9: has just punched every Sydney journalist in the face.
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Speaker 1: That is just basing your words.
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Speaker 9: I don't know where you managed to get all your
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Speaker 9: your talking points from tonight, Stephen, but they are just rubbish.
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Speaker 9: That is what happens when a premier scares the living
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Speaker 9: for Jesus out of people in a state. They were
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Speaker 9: so afraid at that time during COVID and they listened
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Speaker 9: to what they thought was the right health advice. Listen.
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Speaker 9: This award should never have been given to a bloke
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Speaker 9: who doesn't even believe in the monarchy. This bloke is
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Speaker 9: a Republican and so therefore has no right to this
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Speaker 9: award to start with. Let alone the fact that the
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Speaker 9: only royal acknowledgment of this bloke should have been a
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Speaker 9: Royal commission into covidct public. This is exactly what the
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Speaker 9: majority of people in this country and in the state
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Speaker 9: of Victoria. Do you know where the majority of people
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Speaker 9: fled to from Victoria when they were finally allowed to
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Speaker 9: leave the state, Queensland. And so we've got all these
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Speaker 9: Victorians here who had the sense to get out when
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Speaker 9: they could. A lot of them will never go back
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Speaker 9: because that state was a basket case. And yes, they
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Speaker 9: blew the budget, and you in that state will continue
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Speaker 9: to pay for the retoric that Stephen continues to deliver.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on from that one to take
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Speaker 2: a look at Newspoll where Steven it's more bad news
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Speaker 2: for Labor. I'm afraid the Albanzi government is losing ground
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Speaker 2: in all the major metrics following a couple of hectic weeks.
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Speaker 2: In two party preferred, the major parties are now tied
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Speaker 2: at fifty to fifty and Labour's primary vote has fallen
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Speaker 2: to thirty three percent as the coalitions has risen to
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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent. So Stephen, Labour's primary voters now in
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Speaker 2: line with what it had at twenty twenty two election,
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Speaker 2: and that's after tax cuts energy rebates handed out what
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Speaker 2: less than four weeks ago, So it's not exactly encouraging
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Speaker 2: news for the government.
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Speaker 1: Now.
22:17
Speaker 4: To be to be fair, the pole would have been
22:21
Speaker 4: probably a little disappointing. It was a tough couple of weeks.
22:24
Speaker 4: The migration issues certainly were front and center, as they
22:28
Speaker 4: should have been. The government needed to adjust its policy settings.
22:32
Speaker 4: It's the direction ninety nine clearly had consequences that were
22:38
Speaker 4: not helpful for the government, and I think they've moved
22:41
Speaker 4: to change that now. The problem is the point you
22:43
Speaker 4: just made. There are prime votes the same as the
22:45
Speaker 4: primer vote we got when we won the last election
22:47
Speaker 4: with the majority, so national polls need to be taken
22:52
Speaker 4: with the dose assaults. Nowadays, there's very much regional impacts,
22:55
Speaker 4: very much city regional, different states impacts, and what you're
23:02
Speaker 4: seeing there is that, unfortunately for Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton
23:06
Speaker 4: is going to be lucky on that pole. To get
23:08
Speaker 4: past sixty seats and to win federal government, you've got
23:12
Speaker 4: to get about seventy seven if you want to win
23:14
Speaker 4: it in your own rights, So Peter Dutton, while that
23:17
Speaker 4: pole will be encouraging for the general discussion. Unfortunately, the
23:21
Speaker 4: hard heads in the Liberal Party will be sitting there
23:23
Speaker 4: staring at that, going well, that doesn't get us past
23:26
Speaker 4: sixty on a good day, because our primary votes not
23:29
Speaker 4: high enough. We're not winning any of the Teal seats back,
23:32
Speaker 4: particularly with a little frolic and embarrassment they've had over
23:34
Speaker 4: the long weekend about whether they're for Paris Climate Agreement
23:38
Speaker 4: or they're against the Paris Climate Agreement. And so while
23:43
Speaker 4: it will be a disappointing pole for the government, the
23:45
Speaker 4: person who should be the most disappointed is Peter Dutton
23:48
Speaker 4: because it doesn't put him within not even shouting distance.
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Speaker 1: He's not within coue distance.
23:53
Speaker 4: If you've got the Grand Canyon echoing you well.
23:56
Speaker 2: James, it's true the Coalition have got a fair bit
23:58
Speaker 2: of ground to make up. It's a big climb. But
24:02
Speaker 2: I remember when Peter Dutton was unelectable. That's certainly not
24:05
Speaker 2: the case now.
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Speaker 9: No, he's done very well Peter Dutton, and I can
24:10
Speaker 9: see a more focused and driven Peter Dutton of late,
24:13
Speaker 9: with policy direction that I think that the Australian public
24:16
Speaker 9: can actually adopt and back. The problem will be as
24:20
Speaker 9: Stephen identifies is that Anthony Albanese, he does have a
24:23
Speaker 9: few ace cards up his sleeve, and that is the
24:26
Speaker 9: Teals and the Greens. And the problem that he faces
24:29
Speaker 9: is will he do a preference arrangement with the Greens
24:33
Speaker 9: at this election. Anthony Alberanzi has the benefit here of
24:36
Speaker 9: putting the Greens last, sending a very clear message that
24:39
Speaker 9: he doesn't want to govern with the Greens, and the
24:42
Speaker 9: Greens will have no other choice if they do that,
24:45
Speaker 9: but to still preference labor, because at the end of
24:47
Speaker 9: the day, the Greens will ever preference the coalition or
24:50
Speaker 9: one nation for that matter. So Anthony Albanesi, if he
24:53
Speaker 9: does want to be a true leader in his own right,
24:56
Speaker 9: send a very clear message to the people of this country.
24:58
Speaker 9: Put the Greens last and the oven well govern for
25:03
Speaker 9: labor if that's what you want, If you want to
25:05
Speaker 9: be a labor leader, not to the behest of the Greens,
25:09
Speaker 9: make a very clear stand at this election and make
25:11
Speaker 9: it clear now so we're all aware.
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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be.
25:15
Speaker 2: Interesting to see how it plays out over the next
25:17
Speaker 2: twelve months.
25:17
Speaker 1: Are still a long way to go.
25:19
Speaker 2: Stephen Conroy and James Ashby, appreciate your time tonight. Well,
25:23
Speaker 2: we're going to go to a break, but stick around.
25:25
Speaker 2: Coming up in just a moment more on the rescue
25:27
Speaker 2: of four Israeli hostages in Gaza, plus the growing threat
25:31
Speaker 2: to Christianity in this country. Greg Sheridan joins me in
25:34
Speaker 2: a moment.
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Speaker 1: Well.
25:39
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, Israel carried out its largest hostage rescue
25:42
Speaker 2: operation since the war with Hamas began last October.
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Speaker 1: As I said at the top of the.
25:47
Speaker 2: Show, they managed to get four of their citizens safely
25:49
Speaker 2: out of central Gaza in a heavy ground and air assault.
25:53
Speaker 2: Let's break all of that down with Greg Sheridan, Foreign
25:56
Speaker 2: editor at The Australian. Greg, thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: Evgant. Is this rescue in terms of the overall war.
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Speaker 8: Well, James, In a way, it doesn't have inherent strategic
26:08
Speaker 8: significance itself, but it's an enormous morale boost for the Israelis.
26:13
Speaker 8: This harks back to the heroic Israel of the Tebbi
26:17
Speaker 8: raid and so on, rescuing their own citizens and others.
26:21
Speaker 8: The raid also tells us a few things. I mean,
26:23
Speaker 8: there was a tragic loss of innocent Palestinian life, But
26:27
Speaker 8: why did that happen? Because Ummas had seek fruited its
26:31
Speaker 8: hostages in the middle of Palestinian civilians. Then when the
26:35
Speaker 8: Israelis came to rescue the Israeli innocent Israeli civilians, Hamas
26:41
Speaker 8: engaged them in a fierce gung battle. So this was
26:44
Speaker 8: not defense of Palestinian territory or anything. This was so
26:47
Speaker 8: that they could continue to abuse and terrorize innocent civilian hostages. Undoubtedly,
26:53
Speaker 8: some of the Palestinians killed were killed by Hummas fire,
26:57
Speaker 8: and it shows us that all of the moral responsibility
27:00
Speaker 8: for the suffering in Gaza rests with Hamas. This is
27:05
Speaker 8: a good moment for Israel, but in itself it doesn't
27:08
Speaker 8: offer strategic change.
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Speaker 1: It is speaking of civilian deaths.
27:13
Speaker 2: The IDF say, a Gaza journalist who wrote for Al
27:16
Speaker 2: Jazeera was holding three hostages in his apartment.
27:20
Speaker 1: What do you make of that?
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Speaker 8: Well, if that's true, I've no reason to doubt the ideayt.
27:26
Speaker 8: But I just haven't kind of corroborated it myself, So
27:29
Speaker 8: I just say this cautiously. If that's true, it is
27:33
Speaker 8: an utterly shocking and disgraceful reality. And as I understand
27:39
Speaker 8: that Al Jazeera is still sometimes featured on SBS, well
27:43
Speaker 8: that should finish. Now, if that's true, then Al Jazeera
27:47
Speaker 8: is a network complicit in brutal and barbaric terrorism. So
27:51
Speaker 8: I'm just a bit cautious because I don't have any
27:53
Speaker 8: independent verification yet. But we know that a lot of
27:57
Speaker 8: the so called independent agencies in Gara a work hand
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Speaker 8: in glove with a Hummas terrorists who run a very totalitarian, vicious,
28:04
Speaker 8: violent and dangerous regime. Gaza is a very dangerous place
28:08
Speaker 8: to disagree with Hummas. Nonetheless, I think holding innocent Israeli
28:12
Speaker 8: civilians hostage is above and beyond the call of any
28:15
Speaker 8: journalist duty.
28:17
Speaker 2: Now, of course, Joe Biden is still trying to get
28:20
Speaker 2: a cease fire happening. Does this successful hostage rescue change
28:25
Speaker 2: the Israeli attitudes towards anything that Biden's putting on the table.
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Speaker 8: I don't think so. Biden's ceasefire proposal is quite sensible.
28:35
Speaker 8: He wants a temporary cease fire to start with Hummas
28:40
Speaker 8: releasing a number of Israeli hostages, and then a temporary
28:45
Speaker 8: cease fire of whatever period six weeks or more, followed
28:49
Speaker 8: by negotiations towards a permanent ceasepire. Now, the Israelis have
28:53
Speaker 8: been essentially offering that deal to Hummas. For months and months,
28:57
Speaker 8: Anthony Blincoln, David Cameron of the UK, all the senior
29:01
Speaker 8: American officials and so and have said for months now
29:05
Speaker 8: the obstacle to US ceasefire is Hummus. Hummas is the
29:09
Speaker 8: people who don't want to cease fire, not the Israelis.
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Speaker 8: Hummas want the Palestinians to suffer as much as possible
29:16
Speaker 8: because in their twisted, neholistic, barbaric calculus, that's great because
29:21
Speaker 8: that means Israel is damaged internationally. Now, I think Israel
29:25
Speaker 8: itself has to make its own calculation about how much
29:30
Speaker 8: the military imperative of inflicting further damage on Hummas and
29:34
Speaker 8: the human imperative getting their own hostages back balances against
29:40
Speaker 8: the undeniable, huge international political damage which Israeli is suffering
29:45
Speaker 8: as a result of this operation.
29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's go from that too.
29:50
Speaker 2: I want to talk about a great piece that you
29:52
Speaker 2: wrote in The Australian at the weekend on the growing
29:55
Speaker 2: threat to Christianity in this country. There was one line
29:58
Speaker 2: in particular that caught my eye. You wrote due to
30:00
Speaker 2: what you called a slew of legal, legislative, bureaucratic.
30:04
Speaker 1: And cultural trends.
30:06
Speaker 2: Christianity may become like smoking, tolerated at law for a while,
30:12
Speaker 2: but ever more narrowly with ever more restrictions, actively discouraged
30:16
Speaker 2: by punitive financial measures. It was a great column. I
30:20
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you three questions in the time we have.
30:23
Speaker 2: Why has the culture turned against Christianity? How serious is
30:26
Speaker 2: the threat to Christians? And if the trend continues, what
30:30
Speaker 2: impact will have that will that have on Australian society generally?
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Speaker 8: Well, James, let me start with question number two. The
30:41
Speaker 8: government is going to back out of doing a religious
30:44
Speaker 8: discrimination law, so it won't do anything to defend religion.
30:49
Speaker 8: But eventually a green left labor majority will end the
30:54
Speaker 8: exemption for Christian schools under the Sex Discrimination Act, and
30:57
Speaker 8: that will make it impossible for Christian schools to employ
31:01
Speaker 8: teachers who believe in or espouse their own values. I mean,
31:06
Speaker 8: Christian schools now employed teachers from many different backgrounds and
31:09
Speaker 8: lots of gay teachers and everything. They just don't employ
31:11
Speaker 8: activists who are against the church. But the Law Reform
31:15
Speaker 8: Commission is hostile to Christianity. It wants to destroy the
31:20
Speaker 8: rights of Christian schools. The Productivity Commission recently suggested that
31:25
Speaker 8: Christian schools building funds should not be tax deductible donations
31:29
Speaker 8: to them, so that that would mean that the schools
31:34
Speaker 8: can't expand their plant and base and so forth. The
31:40
Speaker 8: government is going to introduce hate speech legislation, which, under
31:44
Speaker 8: the weird definition we live in today, normal Christian teaching
31:49
Speaker 8: about human sexuality will be hate speech. So we live
31:52
Speaker 8: in such a bizarre cultural moment. You can scream if
31:55
Speaker 8: the Jews and suffer no legal consequences whatsoever. But if
31:59
Speaker 8: you read out the wrong bit of Saint Paul in
32:01
Speaker 8: the Corinthians, you'll be up before the Anti Discrimination Commission,
32:05
Speaker 8: like Archbishop Fulian Portius was in Tasmania. And the government
32:09
Speaker 8: is going to put criminal sanctions into this hate speech law. Now,
32:13
Speaker 8: that and a dozen other moves are designed to silence
32:16
Speaker 8: Christian institutions. And this is really only directed against Christianity,
32:21
Speaker 8: it's not directed against any other religion. Why has society
32:24
Speaker 8: gone that way? Well, we've had a long secular trend.
32:27
Speaker 8: I think the society, Our society is going crazy. You know,
32:31
Speaker 8: all the other societies I deal with. Spending so much
32:34
Speaker 8: of my time in Asia, Muslim Indonesia, Buddhist, Thailand, Catholic Philippines,
32:39
Speaker 8: Christianity in China. They're all on fire religious belief. But
32:42
Speaker 8: now we've got now a very intolerant form of liberalism
32:46
Speaker 8: which requires Christians to genuflect towards woke ideology. And what
32:53
Speaker 8: will the consequences be. The consequences will be that they
32:56
Speaker 8: will harass and intimidate Christians and promote a more barbaric society.
33:02
Speaker 8: Because everything we like in our society, all the gentleness
33:06
Speaker 8: in our society, human rights, the quality of the sex's
33:09
Speaker 8: welfare policy, hospitals, everything else comes from the Christian and
33:13
Speaker 8: Jewish traditions.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Greg, I note that Richard Dawkins, who famously
33:18
Speaker 2: has ridiculed Christianity for the better part of his career,
33:22
Speaker 2: is now saying he calls himself a cultural Christian and
33:24
Speaker 2: he hopes Christianity doesn't disappear. So we live in interesting times.
33:29
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, appreciate your time tonight. Well still to come
33:33
Speaker 2: another day, another statue targeted. This time it's King George
33:37
Speaker 2: the Fifth, My panel joins me next, welcome back. Well,
33:45
Speaker 2: it's the King's birthday and a group of vandals has
33:48
Speaker 2: beheaded a statue of King George the Fifth in Melbourne's
33:51
Speaker 2: King's Domain near the Maya Music Bowl. Now a video
33:55
Speaker 2: was shared on social media showing a hooded person sawing
33:58
Speaker 2: off the statue's head before covering it in red paint
34:01
Speaker 2: and spray painting. The colony will fall across the base.
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Speaker 1: Of the monument.
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Speaker 2: Joining me as the panel, history lecturer and author Stephen
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Speaker 2: shavra and IPA executive director Scott Hargraves. Scott, how is
34:14
Speaker 2: it that these acts of vandalism have become so frequent
34:19
Speaker 2: as to almost not raise an eyebrow these days?
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Speaker 10: What we're seeing here is really just the tip of
34:26
Speaker 10: the spear. This obsession with decolonization is part of the
34:30
Speaker 10: national curriculum that every Australian child is forced to endure,
34:34
Speaker 10: no matter what kind of school you go to, government,
34:37
Speaker 10: independent or denominational school. It's an obsession in the university
34:42
Speaker 10: is the idea that all of the ills that are
34:45
Speaker 10: present in society can ultimately be traced back to the
34:49
Speaker 10: colonization of Australia, or the colonization of the Middle East,
34:53
Speaker 10: or wherever they happen.
34:54
Speaker 1: To have their pet issues.
34:56
Speaker 10: And what we're seeing here is a very organized group
34:58
Speaker 10: which is really weaponizing that ideology, but its roots run
35:03
Speaker 10: very deep in Australia at the moment.
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Speaker 1: I'm afraid yeah, it certainly seems that way.
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Speaker 2: And Stephen beheading a statue on the king's birthday, King
35:11
Speaker 2: George the Fifth, And that wasn't the only vandalism we
35:14
Speaker 2: saw today. The US Consulate in Sydney was vandalized, presumably
35:19
Speaker 2: over Middle Eastern politics. So we're seeing a courseing of
35:23
Speaker 2: Australian society.
35:25
Speaker 11: Well, exactly as Scott said, kids in schools are basically
35:29
Speaker 11: being taught from primary school to high school and then
35:33
Speaker 11: into university that Australia is a racist colonial project. So
35:38
Speaker 11: this is sort of the upshot of years of indoctrination
35:42
Speaker 11: that these days sort of defines education. With the Victorian instance,
35:46
Speaker 11: Victoria is the most woke state in Australia. They're right
35:50
Speaker 11: now going down a path of a treaty with Indigenous
35:53
Speaker 11: Australians in Victoria. You've got councils in Victoria that don't
35:57
Speaker 11: celebrate Australia Day. But even that is not enough. Heads
36:01
Speaker 11: of statues must be cut off. And it just sort
36:03
Speaker 11: of goes to show that even if this Voice to
36:05
Speaker 11: Parliament was successful, it wouldn't have changed the minds of
36:08
Speaker 11: these kinds of people because they just fundamentally think that
36:11
Speaker 11: Australia to begin with is an illegitimate project.
36:15
Speaker 2: What interests me though, because I don't think in my
36:17
Speaker 2: lifetime I've seen so much vandalism, so much violent protest.
36:23
Speaker 2: Has something changed in the last couple of years or
36:25
Speaker 2: have I just been asleep?
36:26
Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 11: I think the thing that's changed in the last couple
36:29
Speaker 11: of years, certainly in the last seven years, is the
36:31
Speaker 11: rise of social media. There's an incentive for people to
36:34
Speaker 11: do these things and to film it and.
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Speaker 1: To upload it.
36:37
Speaker 11: And also again the idea that sort of accusations of
36:40
Speaker 11: racism and colonialism have increased one hundred fold because they're
36:45
Speaker 11: now accessible on videos for people to access and upload
36:49
Speaker 11: and that kind of thing.
36:50
Speaker 2: No doubt that's had a contribution. Scott New South Wales
36:54
Speaker 2: has recorded its first ever conviction under hate speech laws.
36:58
Speaker 2: These laws were drafted in tween This is the first
37:01
Speaker 2: time anyone's been successfully prosecuted. A twenty four year old
37:05
Speaker 2: Indian man convicted under Section ninety three Z for threatening
37:09
Speaker 2: an Indian seek who supported an independence movement. Doesn't this
37:13
Speaker 2: conviction really just give rise to the question why haven't
37:18
Speaker 2: you South Wales police used these laws to go after
37:22
Speaker 2: preachers in Western Sydney who've openly called for g had
37:25
Speaker 2: against Jews.
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Speaker 10: Well, this is really the worry with anything that comes
37:30
Speaker 10: under the banner of hate speech, and why those of
37:33
Speaker 10: us who defend the right to free speech are always
37:36
Speaker 10: concerned at calls for more and more laws about hate
37:39
Speaker 10: speech because it seems that only certain types of activities
37:43
Speaker 10: are prosecuted. And in this case, certainly there was an
37:47
Speaker 10: incitement to violence, which always overrides any right to free speech,
37:51
Speaker 10: and so there is nothing wrong with the conviction. But
37:54
Speaker 10: certainly people like Peter Wertheim from the Executive Council of
37:58
Speaker 10: Australian Jury and others are saying, well, where are the
38:01
Speaker 10: prosecutions of those who have not been making merely distasteful
38:06
Speaker 10: and anti Semitic remarks, but have been very much making
38:10
Speaker 10: calls that are incitements to violence. But we're not seeing
38:14
Speaker 10: any prosecutions come through. So that really is a very
38:18
Speaker 10: live issue with the so called hate speech laws in Australia.
38:23
Speaker 1: It absolutely is.
38:24
Speaker 2: And Stephen, why the reluctance to go after anti semitism.
38:28
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen some university students expelled for saying
38:32
Speaker 2: that they supported Hamas, but it seemed reluctantly and police
38:36
Speaker 2: have been very reticent to do much.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and it's not an easy question to answer. There
38:40
Speaker 11: are probably a few things going on. I think fundamentally
38:44
Speaker 11: there's a fear of Islamic communities. There's a fear of
38:48
Speaker 11: probably violent reprisal from those communities. I think also in
38:52
Speaker 11: the context of universities, there's just this that I mean universe,
38:57
Speaker 11: many humanities and university academics are just fundamentally sympathetic with
39:03
Speaker 11: the sort of the Palestinian cause and a lot of
39:06
Speaker 11: these anti Israel protests. So I think there are a
39:09
Speaker 11: whole bunch of reasons. But the fact remains is that
39:12
Speaker 11: these hate speech laws, and like Scott, I am not
39:15
Speaker 11: a fan of any hate speech laws really laws against incitement,
39:19
Speaker 11: laws against in threats one hundred percent, and that's exactly
39:22
Speaker 11: what happened in this case. You don't need the concept
39:24
Speaker 11: of hatred in these laws. And of course there's also
39:28
Speaker 11: the example at Sydney University children being taught to chant interfada.
39:32
Speaker 1: A call to violence.
39:34
Speaker 11: So yeah, completely asymmetrically applied. And yeah, the reasons are various.
39:42
Speaker 1: Let's finish with this news from the USA.
39:45
Speaker 2: NASA has made a big deal about flying the so
39:48
Speaker 2: called Intersex Progress Pride flag across its facilities for the
39:52
Speaker 2: first time.
39:52
Speaker 1: This apparently is a big achievement.
39:55
Speaker 2: Stephen, is it really sorry, Stephen, you're right beside me
39:59
Speaker 2: on my left.
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Speaker 1: Is this really a sign of progress?
40:01
Speaker 2: I mean NASA when they put a man on the
40:04
Speaker 2: moon in nineteen seventy two, there hasn't been a whole
40:07
Speaker 2: lot of progress, has there.
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Speaker 11: Well, this is definitely not a sign of progress. It's
40:11
Speaker 11: a sign of regress. But what this is, this is
40:14
Speaker 11: sort of the new religion that has gripped much of
40:16
Speaker 11: the West. That's gripped corporations, it's gripped government departments. Its
40:20
Speaker 11: symbol is sort of a rainbow or a raised fist.
40:23
Speaker 11: It's the new diversity, equity, inclusion religion. It's basically being
40:26
Speaker 11: forced on people, and this is just one of the
40:28
Speaker 11: most ridiculous instances of it being forced on tax paying Americans.
40:33
Speaker 11: And no wonder people aren't interested at all in what
40:36
Speaker 11: NASA does anymore.
40:38
Speaker 2: Well, it's a shame because Scott, I mean NASA scene
40:40
Speaker 2: is that the pinnacle of science aren't they should they
40:43
Speaker 2: really be getting involved in gender and sexuality politics.
40:49
Speaker 10: Well, true virtue, as some great people have said, comes
40:53
Speaker 10: from fulfilling emission, and they are not fulfilling their mission.
40:56
Speaker 10: Houston really does have a problem. This is just cheap
40:59
Speaker 10: virtue signaling, obsessing over every new variant of the rainbow
41:05
Speaker 10: flag while they're not actually fulfilling their fundamental mission. That
41:09
Speaker 10: would be where true virtue would come from, and once
41:11
Speaker 10: again we would go back to the heroic ideal of
41:15
Speaker 10: NASA that most of us grew up with and certainly
41:18
Speaker 10: well deserved with its amazing efforts in the sixties and seventies.
41:22
Speaker 2: Well, Scott Hargraves and Stephen shaverra thank you for joining me.
41:26
Speaker 2: Well stick around because after the break we head to
41:28
Speaker 2: the UK as the Tories put in a last ditch
41:31
Speaker 2: effort to hoover up votes ahead of the election.
41:34
Speaker 1: They want votes from Australia. Esther Crack who is live.
41:37
Speaker 2: Next, Well, let's go to the UK now, where former
41:43
Speaker 2: Prime Minister David Cameron, with an election less than four
41:46
Speaker 2: weeks away, is hunting for Tory votes in Australia. For more,
41:51
Speaker 2: I'm joined by writer and broadcaster Esther Krakhu. David Cameron
41:55
Speaker 2: is using new electoral rules to win votes of Toy
41:58
Speaker 2: leaning older British citizens abroad, including here in Australia. Are
42:03
Speaker 2: things really that bad for the Conservative Party?
42:07
Speaker 12: Worse than you can imagine? I actually I struggle to
42:10
Speaker 12: think how it can get worse. But the ectoral rules
42:12
Speaker 12: electoral rules were changed last year after the Labor Party
42:16
Speaker 12: imposed a sort of arbitrary ban on people that have
42:19
Speaker 12: on British citizens that have left the UK for more
42:21
Speaker 12: than fifteen years being unable to vote. Obviously, the Toys
42:24
Speaker 12: reverse that, and so Lord Cameron, who's now the Foreign Secretary,
42:27
Speaker 12: is trying to use that to garner votes in Australia,
42:30
Speaker 12: of all places, where an estimated one point five million voters,
42:34
Speaker 12: particularly of the older generation, are eligible to vote. Here
42:38
Speaker 12: in the UK, now, I don't actually see how that's
42:41
Speaker 12: going to be successful. I mean, Richard Sunac is still
42:43
Speaker 12: and I kid you not hiding from the media because
42:45
Speaker 12: he's being ambassad for leaving a D Day ceremony in
42:48
Speaker 12: northern France early for some sort of party activities, which
42:52
Speaker 12: is obviously has caused them a lot of headache here
42:54
Speaker 12: in the UK. Many veterans and older voters are disgusted
42:57
Speaker 12: with that behavior. Many people that he was saying, young
43:00
Speaker 12: people that he was trying to get on board to
43:02
Speaker 12: his National service idea are thinking, how can you ask
43:05
Speaker 12: us to do national service when you couldn't even do
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Speaker 12: your National service and spend a day in Normandy commemorating
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Speaker 12: the people that fought and died for all the freedoms
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Speaker 12: that we enjoy. So the Conservative Party has a lot
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Speaker 12: of headaches at the moment. I think Lord Cameron is
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Speaker 12: probably trying to do his best, but again it's ironic
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Speaker 12: that he's trying to solicit votes from older British voters.
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Speaker 12: In Australia, he wasn't even elected, so I mean, it
43:28
Speaker 12: just keeps getting worse and worse.
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Speaker 1: It's might beck fire for them.
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Speaker 2: I was talking to some British Nationals over coffee this morning,
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Speaker 2: knowing we'd be having this discussion, and they said, well,
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Speaker 2: we're voting for Nigel Farage.
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Speaker 12: That's another problem that the Tories have to deal with.
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Speaker 12: I mean, it is very plausible that Reform could be
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Speaker 12: the new opposition, and depending on the catastrophic nature of
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Speaker 12: the tori's defeat on July fourth, they really could be
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Speaker 12: completely wiped out and Reform could be the new official
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Speaker 12: opposition and that's something that the Tories have had to
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Speaker 12: grapple with. You have you know MPs like Andrea Letson
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Speaker 12: and various Conservative MPs saying that the Reforms mission is
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Speaker 12: only to destroy the Conservative Party, is not to become
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Speaker 12: the true Conservative movement. But unfortunately the Toys have no
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Speaker 12: leg to stand on. They have been in government for
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Speaker 12: the last fourteen years and they've obvious seen the decline
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Speaker 12: of virtually every aspect of public life here in Britain,
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Speaker 12: for education, to transport, infrastructure, to policing, to law and
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Speaker 12: order and certainly on immigration. So basically anything that the
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Speaker 12: Tories say, people are going to say, well, why didn't
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Speaker 12: you do this before? And so that's the problem that
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Speaker 12: they have now. And Niger Ferad cannot be underestimated.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's not just Brits who are going to the polls,
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Speaker 2: the French will be going to the polls as well.
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Speaker 2: This comes after a right wing surge in the European
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Speaker 2: Union parliamentary elections at the weekend that seem to have
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Speaker 2: spooked the French President Emanuel Macron.
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Speaker 1: He's called a snap election. What's going on there?
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Speaker 12: So Emanuel Macron has basically two years left in his
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Speaker 12: presidency and the results of the European election shows that
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Speaker 12: Marie La Penn's Front National part he got double the
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Speaker 12: amount of votes that his party got, and so now
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Speaker 12: you have a question of political legitimacy. If more people
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Speaker 12: are clearly backing lupenz agenda in Europe, certainly you have
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Speaker 12: a problem trying to push through domestic agenda here at
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Speaker 12: well in France, what could possibly happen because I think
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Speaker 12: he tried to call the snap election to catch his
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Speaker 12: opposition parties off guard, which I don't think is a
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Speaker 12: gamble He's going to win. You could very well see
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Speaker 12: a Macron presidency and a prime ministership which would effectively
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Speaker 12: make him a lame duck president. This has not just
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Speaker 12: happened in France. It's happened all over Europe, in Spain,
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Speaker 12: in the Netherlands. The Belgian Prime minister has just resigned
45:34
Speaker 12: because you've seen a huge successful right wing parties, the Germans.
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Speaker 12: I mean, Olive Schultz must not have slept last night
45:40
Speaker 12: because the AfD completely, you know, over exceeded expectations that
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Speaker 12: U is really going to have to deal with this
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Speaker 12: right wing wave and actually tackle the issues that many
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Speaker 12: people have been talking about, like immigration, liking at zero
45:53
Speaker 12: targets effectively crunching their pockets, and so many other things.
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Speaker 12: And you know, it's not a trend that going to seize.
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Speaker 12: I think I suspect we're going to see something similar
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Speaker 12: here in Britain as well.
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Speaker 2: All right, moving on to the BBC. Bad news for
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Speaker 2: white males contemplating a career in journalism. Ester data released
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Speaker 2: under a freedom information request shows non white applicants to
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Speaker 2: the BBC's journalism training scheme two and a half times
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Speaker 2: more likely to be accepted than white males. So my
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Speaker 2: question is whether or not this is just one of
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Speaker 2: those anomalies it happens from time to time, or is
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Speaker 2: this deliberate.
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Speaker 12: Obviously not. The BBC has had an institutional problem of
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Speaker 12: this nature for a long time. They tend to recruit
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Speaker 12: urban young people that are ethnic minority backgrounds, and you
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Speaker 12: can see that reflected a lot of the creative outlet
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Speaker 12: that they put out there. You can see that reflected
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Speaker 12: in a lot of the types of reporting and how
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Speaker 12: it's influenced by having certain people of this particular background.
46:51
Speaker 12: If you are a working class white person in a
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Speaker 12: coastal town in Britain, your chances of getting a BBC
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Speaker 12: internship are that much lower because the elite and that
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Speaker 12: are running these organizations somehow have this perceived, this perception
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Speaker 12: that you your privileged just because of the color of
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Speaker 12: your skin, nothing to do with if you grew up
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Speaker 12: on a council estate or if you have low scholastic attainment,
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Speaker 12: which many white working class boys suffer from. They actually
47:13
Speaker 12: have the lowest levels of scholastic attainment in this country.
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Speaker 12: So this is an institutional problem that I suspect is
47:18
Speaker 12: replicated in other parts of the country. I mean, the
47:20
Speaker 12: Ministry of Defense had to pay out compensation for white
47:24
Speaker 12: men that were trying to be recruited into the air
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Speaker 12: the Air forces for being white, and so they had
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Speaker 12: to pay them I think twenty five hundred pounds in
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Speaker 12: conversation each.
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Speaker 1: Because they were being discriminated against.
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Speaker 12: By virtue of being white. And this was revealed after
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Speaker 12: email documents showed that they didn't want white straight men
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Speaker 12: in the Air forces.
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Speaker 2: And how is this policy improving the performance of the BBC,
47:51
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the standard of reporting getting better.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's it's I mean the BBC has many problems,
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Speaker 12: particularly on trying to maintain some sort of partiality, but
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Speaker 12: it's mainly you can see in the types of kind
48:03
Speaker 12: of creative content that they put out there, So their documentaries,
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Speaker 12: their series, their films, and they all have a skew you.
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Speaker 12: I mean, you probably wouldn't see a BBC show now
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Speaker 12: if it didn't have some sort of black gay doctor
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Speaker 12: or some sort of one leggage transgender Muslim. So I
48:17
Speaker 12: think it's it's pretty clear it's been reflected in a
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Speaker 12: lot of mainstream content they're putting out there.
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Speaker 1: It's true.
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Speaker 2: It sounds to me like sounds to me like the
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Speaker 2: BBC has gone the way of Star Wars. It's to
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Speaker 2: Krek WHU, thank you for your time. Always appreciate talking
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Speaker 2: to you. Well that's it from me. I'll see you
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Speaker 2: again tomorrow night, but don't go anywhere. Coming right up
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