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- 0:17Speaker 2: Me now was Jeremy Hutton, Milford Asset Management.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Hey, Jeremy, Evening, Heather.
- 0:21Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about Spark. Haven't had a
- 0:23Speaker 2: bad run that's been going on for a little while,
- 0:25Speaker 2: and it's just continued today, hasn't it.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Yeah, another earnings and also the dividend downgrade today and
- 0:31Speaker 3: this was only two months after its previous financial result,
- 0:36Speaker 3: and it's already downgraded as guidance for the FY twenty
- 0:39Speaker 3: five year, so it's preferred earnings metric ebit die by
- 0:44Speaker 3: four percent at the midpoint, and disappointingly just follows, as
- 0:47Speaker 3: you said, a series of downgrades already this calendar year.
- 0:51Speaker 3: And these earnings downgrades have been the main contributor to
- 0:54Speaker 3: the stock being one of the worst performers on the
- 0:56Speaker 3: Interdex this year. So you're unusual for a normally defensive
- 1:01Speaker 3: bluecha telecoms company like Spark.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look at what's happened that
- 1:05Speaker 2: the share price is down well over forty percent, you know,
- 1:07Speaker 2: so far this year. So this is basically just to
- 1:09Speaker 2: run of the same kind of news, isn't.
- 1:11Speaker 3: It Yeah, a little bit. Parts of the updates were similar,
- 1:14Speaker 3: but there was also some new news as well. It
- 1:17Speaker 3: did highlight the continued slower mobile division growth and this
- 1:21Speaker 3: is mainly competition from One New Zealand and two degrees
- 1:23Speaker 3: impacting and effectively. Corporates and government ent disease. Are still
- 1:27Speaker 3: looking to rationalize their spend, especially in mobile and IT services,
- 1:32Speaker 3: looking for some more value options. And then in the
- 1:36Speaker 3: new news, Spark cut its ever important dividends as well
- 1:39Speaker 3: by ten percent. This was down to twenty five cents
- 1:42Speaker 3: for next year expected. So the dividend has traditionally been
- 1:45Speaker 3: the most important value diver for Spark, so meaningful cut there.
- 1:50Speaker 2: So what's the concern that's led them to the dividend cut?
- 1:55Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest issue that the market has had is
- 1:57Speaker 3: over the sustainability of the dividend, and this is due
- 2:01Speaker 3: to the competing demands on its cash flows. So Spark
- 2:04Speaker 3: has been investing a lot in building new data centers,
- 2:07Speaker 3: which are pretty expensive. Of the operating performance has been
- 2:10Speaker 3: struggling as mentioned before, and it wants to maintain its
- 2:14Speaker 3: investment grade credit rating, so and other words, have low
- 2:17Speaker 3: debt levels, so it's balancing a lot of demands. It
- 2:21Speaker 3: did cut back its capital expensure guidance, but looking at
- 2:25Speaker 3: it really simply from here at three cash flow guide
- 2:28Speaker 3: as a midpoint of four hundred and twenty million, but
- 2:30Speaker 3: the dividend at twenty five cents, even at the reduced level,
- 2:33Speaker 3: is still costing four hundred and sixty million, so in
- 2:37Speaker 3: theory it's still borling to pay this divinitent.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Very interesting, Okay. The interesting things that the share price
- 2:41Speaker 2: didn't move very much today was that the market potentially
- 2:44Speaker 2: buying the last downgrade.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly could have been, especially given how much the
- 2:49Speaker 3: share price has fallen. Parts of this was expected, but
- 2:53Speaker 3: it's probably more in relation to some other news. It's
- 2:56Speaker 3: looking to sell some of its non core assets, like
- 2:59Speaker 3: the remainder of its power CODs heat and it's trying
- 3:03Speaker 3: to find a capital partner to help fund its data centers,
- 3:06Speaker 3: and both of these will relieve some of the pressure
- 3:08Speaker 3: on the balance sheet and cash flow. There is a
- 3:12Speaker 3: very large value case starting to emerge, even on the
- 3:15Speaker 3: lower dividend. The cash yield is over eight percent per year,
- 3:20Speaker 3: and this lines up favorably versus other global telecoms, peirs,
- 3:24Speaker 3: other Intertex dividend stocks, and also favorably against term deposits,
- 3:29Speaker 3: especially in a falling and trade environment. So some value
- 3:32Speaker 3: emerging here interesting.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Jeremy, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Jeremy Hutton, more
- 3:36Speaker 2: fort Act Management.
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