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Episode 2000: TV Offers, Job Offers, and a Major Announcement · How To Protect The Ocean

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When I recorded
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episode one of the podcast,
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I had no idea it would
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lead to TV offers, job offers,
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and eventually my dream job.
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Today is episode 2,000, that's 2,000.
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And I wanna tell you
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exactly how that happened
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on this episode of the How
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to Protect the Ocean podcast.
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This is probably one
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of my biggest episodes
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that I've ever produced,
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not because it's just a solo episode,
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but because of the milestone,
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the 2,000 episode mark in podcasting,
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that is a huge thing.
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I'm gonna tell you how I got
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there, why it's so important.
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But before I do, if you are interested in
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hearing another 2000 episodes
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on how to protect the ocean, you can do
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so by following this podcast.
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Just hit that follow button on your
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favorite podcast app,
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or you can go to speakupforblue.com
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forward slash podcast
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to look at the podcast
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and listen to all of it.
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The last 2000 episodes
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when I started like, look,
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this is a huge deal for me.
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This is this is massive for me.
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I never thought I would get to 2000,
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especially the journey
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that got me to podcasting.
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I started off if for those of you who
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don't know, first of all,
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if you've been with me since
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day one, thank you so much.
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But if you don't know the story,
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I'm going to tell you a little bit of the
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story of how I got into podcasting.
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It was around 2010.
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I was at a job.
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I want to start some kind
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of science communication.
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I was talking to a bunch of different
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people about, you know,
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blogs and stuff like that.
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I started off, you know,
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what everybody's doing blogs.
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There's seven fried science.
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There's deep-sea news.
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They're amazing.
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I want to contribute
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in my own kind of way.
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I'm going to do five episodes or five
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blog posts a week on different stories.
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I'm going to write is
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going to be amazing.
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I'm going to make so
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much money off of blogging.
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That didn't happen.
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I did not like writing,
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especially five days a week.
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It's a lot to be a reporter, a journalist
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in such a way that I wanted to be.
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That's a lot of of time and effort and I
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just wasn't willing to put it in.
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Writing was not my forte not something I
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enjoyed to work at and I respect
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everybody who does writing and does
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science communication through writing.
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It's an absolute amazing feat to be able
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to do and great skill,
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but I just couldn't do it.
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I just couldn't handle the amount of work
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that needed to go into it.
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So then I want you know, what YouTube is
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getting bigger and bigger.
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It's 2010.
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It was started in 2006 or eight or
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somewhere around there and podcasts were
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in and around that area and it was kind
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of like under the radar.
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It was kind of going
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through a little bit of a dip.
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It started in 2006 kind of went up a
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little bit that it started to go down and
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then I started to do YouTube videos.
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Now my kids were were toddlers.
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So they would go to bed early.
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They go to bed like seven to eight
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o'clock and then at that time after I
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came down from reading the books and
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stuff like that, my wife reading the
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books, I would start doing videos and I
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would you know, record these videos in
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front of my fish or in front of my fish
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tank and I would have this recording
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going on and I would
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edit the video right then.
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And then I would post it that night and
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then I would do that four days a week.
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That was a lot of work editing and doing
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everything was a ton of work and I just
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wasn't feeling it because it would take
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up my entire evening.
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And so I was like, okay, you know what?
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I need to start to change the way I do
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things and I was still doing the videos,
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but I was in a bit of a flux and I spoke
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to an old high school football teammate
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of mine and he was like, you know what?
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He's like, have you ever heard about this
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guy that does this
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this podcast on on video?
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And I was like, oh, he does a video show.
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He does a YouTube show.
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He's like, yeah, but he's
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got an audio podcast as well.
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I forget the guy's name, but he had a
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show called Mixer G.
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It was Mixer G dot com.
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I don't even know if it's still around
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but in around like 2010 2011
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actually like 2011 to 2012.
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And so I started listening to it.
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It was all about entrepreneur,
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entrepreneurial kind of thing.
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So if you are an entrepreneur, especially
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from a text perspective, he would talk to
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you do interviews with different things.
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Very enlightening.
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I really enjoyed the show and I started
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to be like, well, I'm not going to watch
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it all the time, but I go
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for dog walks all the time.
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So I'm going to
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listen to it as a podcast.
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I downloaded the podcast app or, you
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know, Apple podcast already had a podcast
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app and I was like, okay, I'm going to
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listen to the subscribe and start
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listening and listening and listening.
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And it was great.
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And I was like, this is cool.
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And then I started looking at all there's
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other podcasts out there.
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So I started looking at other podcasts
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because I was watching
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his show from his website.
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And then the podcast was
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from on the podcast app.
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So there are other shows out there.
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I'm like, I wonder if there are any ocean
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shows and ocean podcasts out there and
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there are a few, but
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they were disconnected.
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They weren't consistent.
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And I was like, I wonder if this is
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something that I could do.
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There's no video that's
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necessary and you can just record.
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You don't have to worry
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about what you look like.
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You can just keep going your pajamas if
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you want and you can record.
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And so I started to do that.
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I started to look into it.
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And it was it's not as it wasn't as easy
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to start a podcast as
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it is today back then.
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So I was like looking at that.
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I'm like, how do I start this podcast?
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How do I like what do I have to do?
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I have to find a host.
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I have to record.
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I have to start the show.
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I have to pay for the
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hosting and all this stuff.
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And then I had this video software that I
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was using for a course, Ocean
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Conservation Careers dot com.
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And I was like, okay, I did
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this course with the podcast.
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And I was like, oh, I'm going to do this.
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And I use the video sort of like, I guess
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that the box or the framing is to the
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software for the video.
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How do I they offered
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a podcasting feature?
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And I was like, oh, this is cool.
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So it attached to a host and it's had
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stats and everything.
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And then it had like the hosting was lips
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at liberate syndication,
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which I'm still with today.
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And so you can see the stats on both.
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You had an account on both, but I didn't
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really pay attention how to start.
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I just want to start the show.
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And so I started the show or I started
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uploading stuff and it took me a while to
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kind of figure it out.
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But I started with interviews once a week
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and I started interviewing my friends
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that I met at conferences.
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That's the whole point of the podcast was
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to bring the podcast to people who didn't
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know the people that were on the show.
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And I wanted them to know and I wanted
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the I wanted to know the projects that
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they were on and I wanted them to talk
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about what they were doing and get to
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know who they are because there was a
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there was a thing at that point.
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And so I think it's still today that
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scientists are these elitists and there's
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this like, you know, reputation that we
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have for some reason words like we know
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better than everybody else when we're
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just like everybody else.
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We get paid just like
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everybody else, often underpaid.
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And so this is these are the people that
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are working in ocean conservation from
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advocacy to science to conservation, to
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activism to everything.
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Right. And that's how I've continued with
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that same kind of mission, although I've
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added solo episodes, now I added solo
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episodes after the 10th or 11th episode.
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And I really enjoyed it. I said, look,
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I'm going to I had the mic that I have
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back there. You can't see it right now
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because it's not video, but it was a Yeti
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mic and it was a mic that I didn't know
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how to use very well.
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And so you could really hear the echo in
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my room that I'm in same office, but I
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have a better mic now. So I invested into
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a better microphone assures SM7B, which
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was like the ones that
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the radio broadcasters had.
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It was expensive. But I'm like, you know
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what, I'm going to get it. And I got the
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I got the mic and I started doing five
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episodes a week. And I did that for about
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a year, year and a half. I had a friend
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or a guy that I met through like the
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interning and Nathan Johnson, who was
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fantastic, still fantastic today.
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We keep in touch every once in a while.
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And he would do the writing for me. He
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would do my show notes and the blog posts
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and everything. And then we had an
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episode every Friday called Ocean Talk
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Friday, where he would pick five, four or
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five episodes, four or five stories.
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And we would talk about them throughout
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the story. And I would just kind of cold
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react to him. He did a lot of work. He
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ended up getting a job, left the show
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because he was too busy,
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which is understandable.
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And then we went and then I just
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continued going and I went to three
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episodes a week because it was it was
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difficult to keep up with a job and
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everything and the kids
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as they were growing up.
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But I kept doing it and I kept doing it
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and kept doing it. And then I did seven
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days a week. I was out of a job. I
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decided, you know what, I'm going to take
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podcasting full time. I did seven days a
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week, which helped me accrue to the
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closer to the 2000 episodes.
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And then I remember I got a job and then
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I went to three days a week and I just
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continued to pump out episodes. And
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recently I decided to go five days a
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week, which accelerated my this milestone
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of getting to 2000 episodes.
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Well, that's sort of the history of of of
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how to protect the ocean. Now, to start,
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the name of this podcast was Speak Up for
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Blue. Hence the website name, which is
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our network now, SpeakUpForBlue.com.
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And then I went to Speak Up for the Ocean
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Blue. And the reason why I went to Speak
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Up for the Ocean Blue is because of SEO,
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search engine optimization within
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podcasting. And so what I realized that
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when I typed in to Apple podcast for a
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lot of the podcasting apps, they were
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going by specific keywords
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in the title of the show.
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So Speak Up for Blue, although the blue
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signified oceans and the cover, it looked
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like oceans actually didn't look like
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oceans. It didn't look like we were
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talking about the ocean.
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But when I changed it to Speak Up for the
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Ocean Blue, all of a sudden, if I typed
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in ocean, my podcast would come up one of
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the first or the top 10, which was great
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to see. Over time, there have been more
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and more podcasts on the ocean, education
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shows, conservation shows, all these
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different types of shows.
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Whether they're large organizations or
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individuals. And I applaud each and every
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one of them for applying their creativity
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to be able to work within this podcasting
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platform is not easy.
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And to be able to pump out shows, whether
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it's once a week or five days a week or
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seven days a week or once a month, is
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difficult to do consistently. And I
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applaud everybody who's done it.
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And I think, you know, I remember one of
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the IMCCs, the International Marine
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Conservation Congress, I was at in
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Newfoundland, I did a presentation on
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podcasting and why I think
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more people should podcast.
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And somebody asked me, they said, hey,
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you know what, why do you want more
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people podcasting? Don't you want to be
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like the top podcast? I'm like, yeah, of
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course I want to be the top podcast.
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I'm not the only podcast that should be
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around. I'm not the voice of the ocean in
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the podcasting platform. I want there are
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many voices that need to be heard. There
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are many people from all over the world,
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from different cultures, from different
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creeds, like different religions.
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They need to be heard speak to the people
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that identify with them. I'm not I'm a
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middle age white guy. Not everybody, you
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know, connects with me and that's fine.
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And and I want to put out the information
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for people who want that information,
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which is available to anybody they want
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freely because it's all over podcasting.
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And then other people who start
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podcasting, I want to support. I want to
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help out. I want to have them on the show
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to be able to talk about their their
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podcasts and so who they're connected
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with, who their audience is because look,
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we're in ocean conservation.
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The oceans in enough trouble. We can't be
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competing against each other on
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podcasting platform. We need to be
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supporting each other as much as
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possible. And the more podcasts that are
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out there and the more we support each
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other, either by collaborating or having
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each other on each other's podcast, I
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think is that much
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more benefit to creating.
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And I think that's a benefit to cross
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pollinating target audiences so that they
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can they can make decisions on who they
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want to talk to or who they want to
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listen to and who that where they get
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their information from, which I love.
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So the fact that we're seeing more and
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more ocean conservation and science
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podcast is huge. It's really great to see
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how people have have taken up podcasting.
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But yeah, like the you know, one of the
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things that that's been that's been cool
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is to see how things have changed over
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the years in terms of podcasting.
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I've accrued over three hundred or three
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million podcasts, three million, not
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three hundred million, three million
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podcasts over like downloads over the 11
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year span that I've been doing this.
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I started in 2015. I started recording in
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2014. I was scared for a year to publish
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because I was worried about what my
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colleagues would think
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about me talking about science.
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I didn't want to be wrong. I had a big
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time in posture syndrome, but I've been
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doing it for 11 years, different
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frequency once a week, three times a
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week, five days a week, seven days a
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week, back to five days a week.
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And it's been absolutely wonderful. When
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I got close to when I got past a thousand
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episodes, I was like, this is kind of
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cool. I wonder how long I
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can go now that I'm at 2000.
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I don't think I can stop. No matter where
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I go, I think I'm always going to be
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podcasting. I'm always going to be doing
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this type of podcast.
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This will always be my quote unquote
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flagship podcast. And I think that's
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really important to say because it's not
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something that happens every day.
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I've been a part of other podcasts. I've
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actually helped start and launch probably
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about 15 different podcasts, whether
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they've been oceans or
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not actually more than that.
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Probably about 20 to 25 now, if you don't
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count the ocean podcast that I've been
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able to do consistently, I've been
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co-hosting the Beyond Jaws podcast.
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And so that was kind of cool because it
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actually came out of the How to Protect
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the Ocean podcast. Dr. David Ebert, a
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good friend of mine, Dave, came on the
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podcast and we just hit it off.
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Like I asked him to come on and talk
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about Basking Sharks. He came on. We
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talked for an hour. And then before we
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talked for an hour before
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we recorded, we recorded.
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And then we talked for about two hours
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after we recorded. And to be honest, that
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relationship has never really gone away.
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We get along really well.
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And I consider him one of my great
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friends. He's a wealth of knowledge. He
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knows a lot of people in the business.
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And the Beyond Jaws podcast is all about
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the shark science career and documenting
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the careers of everybody through
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interviews of different
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people from around the world.
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And we talked to people in the US, in
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Canada, from India, from Bangladesh, from
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New Zealand, from Australia, from Brazil,
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from Chile, all these different places in
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South America, all these different places
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in Europe and Africa as well.
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And we're able to meet so up and coming
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people, people who've been around for
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like 30 plus years. We had an episode
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about Jaws, the 50th anniversary, because
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like four of the people were working,
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like including Dave, were
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working as shark scientists.
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They call themselves the Jaws generation
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of science, the shark science, because
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that actually helped catapult their
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careers because there was more funding to
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discover more about great white sharks
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and other sharks. Dave has
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since become the lost shark guy.
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I've gotten him to get really into
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Instagram and social media and videos. He
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now has a documentary series on his
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YouTube channel called at Lost Shark Guy,
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which I edit for him.
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And it's been a crazy experience in the
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eight years that we've known each other.
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It's been phenomenal to see how he's
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grown within social media and using that,
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but also connecting to different people.
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It's just absolutely amazing.
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Now, one of the podcasts that's going to
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come out has to do with another thing
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that I wanted to talk about because I got
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a job because of this podcast. I
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mentioned at the beginning I got job
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offers and actually led to the job that
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I'm at now, which is a dream job for me.
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I get to stay in Ontario, which is a big
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thing for me because one of the reasons
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why I started podcasting and science
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communications is because I want to stay
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in touch with all my ocean conservation
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friends, but also
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still maintain in Ontario.
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And, you know, the big thing for me was,
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you know, I couldn't find a job in
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Ontario as a marine biologist. No, duh.
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There's no oceans around here. There's
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not there aren't many institutes and
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things like that that talk about oceans.
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I was working in freshwater. I worked as
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a consultant. I worked all over the
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place, but I never actually had a job
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that I truly, truly loved. Right. I had
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one like like contract or temporary job
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with the Department of Fisheries Oceans
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with Dr. Nick Mandrak. But that only
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lasted a year because of budget cuts and
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so forth. Not because I didn't like the I
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didn't like the job. But regardless,
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following this path really made me fall
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in love with science communication.
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And being and this kind of like every
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time I had a regular job, like just a non
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science job for a while for the last
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seven years. And although I enjoyed the
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people I work with, it wasn't the same to
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be able to say that I
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worked in ocean conservation.
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It was kind of a little embarrassing
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because I felt like I failed in doing my
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full time job as someone who deals with
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oceans and works within oceans.
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And I spent 16 years in science
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communication. 11 of those years working
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as a science community here full time
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pretty much on my podcast, but outside of
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work hours. Right. And so basically from
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five o'clock until sometimes midnight or
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two or three in the morning and sometimes
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early, early in the morning.
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And and it led to a lot of opportunities
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TV shows, podcasts, hosting, all that
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kind of stuff. But but it never led me
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towards that full time job until this
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year when I joined Pisces Oceans as their
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ocean communications manager. Natalie
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Gilson and I had been friends for a
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while. She had been on this podcast
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because she reached out because she was a
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marketing person getting into oceans and
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wanted to have more of an impact. She
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found this job at Pisces. She
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brought me on this past year.
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And it's been an absolute dream to work
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with the people that I do to work on the
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projects that I get to work on. And I get
17:24
to have a lot of say. They take into my
17:27
feedback. I've learned a lot since I've
17:30
started from a communication standpoint
17:32
and from a science communication
17:35
standpoint, which has been phenomenal,
17:38
which has been
17:39
wonderful to be able to work in.
17:40
And be able to get that job allows me to
17:44
feel fulfilled. It fulfills me throughout
17:47
the day to be able to say I get to work
17:49
on ocean projects every single day. And I
17:53
get to help. One of my coworkers,
17:56
Kristina, who's been on the podcast as
17:57
well, she was saying to me, she's like,
17:59
yeah, she's like, you know, the one thing
18:00
we love working, we were saying to each
18:02
other is that we get to help other
18:04
projects really make sure they have an
18:06
impact. They get to focus on that impact.
18:09
And that's great because we're almost scared of that.
18:09
And that's great because we're almost
18:10
scaling our impact by helping other
18:12
clients and companies and nonprofit
18:15
organizations and academic networks and
18:17
academic people who just like doing
18:19
projects and need our help. And we were
18:21
able to provide that help. That's
18:22
wonderful to be able to
18:23
do. That makes me feel good.
18:25
And I think that's what I said when I
18:26
first started, you know, it's still a
18:27
lot. You're working eight hours and then
18:28
you're going home and you're doing, oh, I
18:30
work from home. But you after that, you
18:31
work on the podcast and you work on
18:33
putting five episodes together, including
18:35
an interview episode. You're doing it
18:36
outside of work hours, sometimes early in
18:38
the morning, sometimes late at night. And
18:40
that is taxing on somebody right now
18:42
who's 47 years old. I'm not a young
18:45
spring chicken anymore. And so I need to
18:48
get my rest and I wasn't getting it.
18:51
And, you know, Pisces and I like Natalie
18:55
Melissa Weber, who's the their co CEOs
18:58
and Christy, we were talking a lot about
19:00
the podcast and how we can incorporate
19:02
the podcast within Pisces. And we finally
19:05
found a way. So with this 2000 episode, I
19:08
get to announce that I've licensed out
19:11
the how to protect the ocean podcast with
19:13
two Pisces for a lot
19:16
of different reasons.
19:17
But the main reasons is that this show
19:19
becomes better. And I can tell you why it
19:22
becomes better because I can work on the
19:24
show during my work hours. I'm this is
19:27
I'm during work hours right now doing
19:29
this podcast and the podcast that how to
19:32
protect the ocean podcast and Pisces has
19:33
a very similar mission.
19:34
We're here to to create an ocean impact.
19:37
We're going to have a positive ocean
19:38
impact through science, strategy and
19:40
story. Very similar in terms of our
19:42
visions, very similar in terms of our
19:44
missions and to bring
19:46
us together made sense.
19:49
The other aspect is I get to work on a
19:50
journey of the day. So I'm not working at
19:51
midnight or 11 o'clock. So I'm getting
19:53
I'm not exhausted when I do it. There
19:55
have been times there have been times
19:57
where I've done a podcast. I've started
19:58
recording at midnight.
20:01
And it goes on for like 20 minutes or 45
20:03
minutes or whatever. And then I realized
20:04
this is one time in particular, I
20:06
realized I didn't hit the record button
20:08
45 minutes 1245 in the morning, I didn't
20:11
hit the record button. I want to put this
20:12
episode out that next morning. And I'm
20:14
like, what do I do? Do I go to bed or do
20:16
I do it in the morning? Or do I just do
20:17
it again? I did it again.
20:19
The record button, I thought I press it.
20:22
I swear to this day, I thought I pressed
20:23
it. Did not press it. Another 45 minutes
20:26
goes by me doing the entire show. And I
20:27
was like, oh, God, nothing did it. So I'm
20:30
at this point now. It's 130 in the
20:32
morning, give or take. And I'm I'm tired.
20:34
I'm angry. Possibly emotional in other
20:38
ways. And I'm like, what do I do? Like,
20:40
how do I do it again? Like, like third
20:42
time's a charm. I did a third time. I
20:44
ended up going to bed finally, like 230
20:46
after editing and everything like that. But I did it again.
20:47
And, uh, and, uh, and, you know, waking
20:51
up the next morning, I'm just useless to
20:53
my family to work and everything. And so
20:55
I've spent a lot of late nights. I spent
20:58
a lot of early mornings getting up and,
20:59
um, you know, talking to people who are
21:01
in a time zone, like in European time
21:03
zone where they're like six, seven hours
21:04
ahead. Uh, South Africa, like they're,
21:08
they're around the same time talking to
21:09
people there. So I'm getting up at seven
21:11
o'clock or eight o'clock in the morning
21:12
doing these interviews while people are
21:14
sleeping. So I'm trying to keep it down.
21:16
So I don't wake up my wife and kids. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to get up. I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing this. I
21:17
Maija activating my body. Um, so the last time I was back in the morning, uh, I was awake.
21:17
And I was breakfast doing, um, um, dinner warmer, um, because I'm front, uh, did I have issues with my kids, um, just need to
21:37
come and get sleep. A little bit? Maybe I needed
21:40
a long time to come on my, to pay my
21:41
fees. Obviously I feel in a 62- Trailer appears in
21:42
May just last week and that'll help my spouse, my weightedert, my kids, uh, cause they're
21:44
job that I do. But now I get to make
21:47
better episodes for you.
21:51
And now we're talking with my coworkers
21:54
on how to make more of
21:56
an impact with Pisces and how
21:58
to protect the ocean through
22:00
various ways, which we'll come out and
22:02
we'll talk about, you
22:04
know, in the next in the
22:05
next upcoming months, which I'm
22:07
excited about. I'm really,
22:08
really excited about. With that
22:10
said, we are going to have a Pisces
22:12
podcast called the Ocean
22:13
Leaders podcast. And so it's going to
22:15
join the Speak Up for
22:16
Blue network. It's already has myself, it
22:19
already had like how
22:20
to protect the ocean. It'll have Ocean
22:21
Leaders podcast, it'll
22:22
have Beyond Jaws podcast. And
22:23
of course, it'll have as we're
22:24
getting, getting ready to do the next
22:27
season and get ramped up,
22:29
Polar Bears and Foot Flops with Angelo
22:30
Villagomez. So we have
22:32
four, four podcasts coming
22:34
out, including the Ocean Leaders
22:35
podcast, which will be like, if you're
22:37
interested in, in Ocean
22:38
Leading Leader podcasts, and you're like
22:40
an Ocean Leader, and
22:41
you work on projects, this is the podcast
22:43
that you're going to want to
22:44
listen to. It's all about why Project
22:46
stall, it's all about, you know,
22:48
making sure you have a communication
22:49
strategy, all that kind of stuff. It'll
22:52
be Pisces very focused on people who are
22:54
in and doing projects, whether
22:56
you're a nonprofit organization, whether
22:58
you're by yourself, whether
22:59
you're part of a larger corporation, or a
23:03
startup, you know, we're here to
23:04
help you with that. So that's going to be
23:06
a lot of fun to be able to do.
23:08
And of course, I've got Ocean Decoded
23:09
Live, which is my YouTube show live show,
23:11
which I went live yesterday, had some
23:13
problems, but ended up being okay. I'll
23:16
talk about that on another time. So we
23:17
got lots of stuff coming. But I'm really
23:19
excited about this, this licensing
23:21
agreement with how to protect the ocean.
23:23
The fact that we have the very similar
23:25
missions, and it just works really,
23:27
really well. And we're hoping to sort of
23:29
increase that ocean impact as we go
23:32
through that. Now, of course, you know,
23:34
this has changed my life. I talked a lot
23:36
about it. I had I've been on TV for
23:38
documentaries, which has been great. I've
23:40
had podcasts, I did a hosting of the
23:42
podcast, I hosted the Toronto Zoo podcast
23:46
for a couple of years, which was great.
23:48
I've had job offers, which of course, the
23:50
dream job is here. And I think the big
23:54
thing is, is that I continue to do it. I
23:58
just stayed consistent. You know, it
24:00
wasn't I'm going to go to 1000, I'm going
24:02
to go to 2000. It's like, I'm already
24:04
thinking of the next five episodes, I
24:05
have the next like 10 episodes planned
24:07
out. So I'm already beyond the 2000.
24:10
You know, and I think that's important to
24:12
say it's like, it's not just about the
24:14
numbers. This is a big milestone for me
24:16
in the podcasting industry, but it's not
24:19
the fact that like, I'm going to stop at
24:20
2000, I'm just going to continue to go.
24:23
And whatever the frequency changes, the
24:24
frequency changes, but I'm still going to
24:26
be talking about ocean conservation. And
24:29
I think that's, that's really an
24:31
important part of the of the business
24:34
really is is what we do
24:37
with with our voice. You know,
24:40
that's what how it started off as speak
24:41
up for the ocean blue or
24:42
speak up for blue is how can we
24:44
talk about the ocean more, you know, it
24:48
helps with our ocean anxiety
24:50
and climate anxiety, be able to
24:51
talk to people, whether we're in a debate
24:53
or not being able to get the
24:55
message out that ocean needs
24:57
our protection and needs our help. And
24:59
the first way to do that is to be able to
25:01
talk about it. And so the podcasting
25:04
medium is a great way to get the message
25:06
out, not the best way to get the message
25:09
back and continue that conversation.
25:11
Although if you're on Spotify, you can
25:14
you can comment and you can ask questions
25:17
and so forth. I always I always ask that
25:19
that happen. And so that's always great.
25:23
But and then of course, Ocean Decoded
25:24
Live at four o'clock
25:25
every Monday to Friday,
25:26
at four o'clock Eastern, you can run that
25:29
around that time, you can join me and we
25:32
can talk about the ocean some more and
25:34
then you can actually comment and I'll be
25:35
right there listening to your comments.
25:37
So this has been something that has been
25:41
huge for me. This is a big step, not only
25:45
for the 2000 but the 2000 episodes, but
25:48
it's also the fact that I am licensing
25:51
out how to protect the ocean with Pisces
25:53
to make better quality shows for you and
25:56
to increase the quality of the ocean.
25:56
And so I think that's a great way to increase the ocean impact of the podcast,
25:58
which has always been the goal, not only
26:01
just to talk about the ocean, but to have
26:03
impact on the ocean, whether it's through
26:05
others or by platforming others. That's
26:07
always been the goal and will continue to
26:09
be the goal as long as I'm living. And
26:12
hopefully whoever takes over afterwards
26:14
when I when I eventually stop because I'm
26:16
not breathing anymore, which hopefully
26:19
will be for a very, very long time from
26:21
now. But I think this is something where
26:24
I'm excited to see where the future goes.
26:25
This is definitely not the end. Only just
26:30
beginning. So the thing that I want to do
26:33
though right now is I just want to thank
26:35
you for what you've been able to do for
26:38
me for the people who have talked to me
26:40
about how this show has impacted them who
26:43
have supported me by listening to the
26:44
episodes. Obviously not everyone don't
26:47
expect everyone to listen to everyone.
26:47
But the fact that you've given me that
26:51
feedback, whether it's critique, whether
26:53
it's great feedback, you know, in terms
26:55
of how it affected your life, I always
26:57
like hearing that, you know, always like
27:00
hearing it in the reviews on Apple or if
27:03
you reach out to me. I always love
27:06
hearing these types of the type of
27:08
feedback because it
27:09
helps motivate me to do more.
27:10
Podcasting is not an easy thing to do
27:13
each and every week, especially five days
27:14
a week. It takes up a lot of time. I have
27:17
more time to do it. This shows getting
27:19
better quality, but still takes up a lot
27:20
of time. It takes a lot of
27:21
creative space in my mind.
27:24
And so this being able to do this for you
27:26
is a privilege, but also I really
27:27
appreciate the feedback you give whether
27:29
you like something or you don't like
27:32
something. I always
27:33
like to hear that feed.
27:34
But I want to thank you so much for
27:36
supporting me through 2000 episodes.
27:38
Whether you're with me through from
27:41
episode one or you just started yesterday
27:43
or you just started
27:44
listening today, I do appreciate it.
27:47
Tomorrow I'm going to be talking about
27:48
YouTube and YouTube Live as a science
27:50
communication platform. And then on
27:52
Friday, we're going to be talking to Amy
27:54
Weldon, who is launching her second
27:56
season of the podcast, Blue Collar White
27:59
Coat on second season. It's going to be
28:02
great. You're going to want to listen to
28:04
that interview because
28:05
she's always wonderful.
28:06
And we're both presenting at IMCC eight
28:08
in Scotland in November. So if you're
28:10
thinking about going there, come say hi
28:12
to me as we are there. But thank you
28:14
again for the support for those of you
28:17
who reached out or will reach out. I
28:19
really do appreciate
28:20
everything you guys have done for me.
28:22
All my social links are in the show
28:24
notes. I want to thank you so much for
28:26
joining me on this very special episode,
28:28
two thousandth episode of the How to
28:30
Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host,
28:31
Andrew Lewin. Have a great day. We'll
28:33
talk to you next time
28:34
and happy conservation.