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"You Say You Want an E-vo-lution" (Monday September 22, 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: I forgive him on a need to know basis, because
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  you need to know the first thing today George said,
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  steal me the best for them.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I disagreed with the work.
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  Speaker 3: When the sun comes up drops a pet school.
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  Speaker 2: I hate my opponent.
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  Speaker 4: Joe has a dream do all the Joases needs.
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  Speaker 5: No one that Joe's all smiled.
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  Speaker 6: He only as.
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  Speaker 7: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
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  you this morning. You're choosing us over all these other
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  radio programs out there where you know, honestly, I have
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  to pick up for Erica Kirk. I have run into
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  many instances where bad radio has been done and it
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  hurts us all. It hurts us all. Joe, don't you
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  love it when you're a former whatever. And don't you
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  love to hear stories about things going No, I don't.
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  I don't want to hear about clients that are mad
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  at their the radio station owner, even if I'm not
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  the guy, because you know what, we all get blamed
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  for those things, and that's what community means. But I digress.
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  We've got lots going on this morning, and yes we
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  can delve into the memorial service yesterday evening. Did you
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  share my trepidation about President Trump coming out after Erica
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  Kirk's emotionally charged speech. Was on the edge of my seat.
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  I looked at my wife and said, if it was me,
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  I wouldn't do it. I would not come out after her,
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  or maybe just come out and say we miss you, Charlie. Oh.
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  I was nervous because I know how the press loves
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  to lay in wait and mischaracterize what he says. Anyway,
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  I was relieved, and I thought he did a great job.
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  And man, you can't outdo what eric Kirk did. We'll
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  get into that for you. We've got folks hanging on
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  the line as well, so let's get our first things first. Obviously,
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  the emotionally charged memorial service for civil rights leader and
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  founder of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk was highlighted by
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  the emotionally charged speech by Erica Kirk, in which she's
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  so told the gathering she forgives the man accused of
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  killing him, stressing that love, not hate must be the
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  answer and to continue his legacy. I forgive him, she said,
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  because it is what christ did and what Charlie would do.
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  President Trump did say during his speech, and he reiterating
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  what he had said on Saturday that sometime today there
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  will be an Oval Office announcement regarding the causes of autism.
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  Taliban rejected the administration's bid to take over Brogram Air
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  Base four years after the chaotic withdrawal because they said
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  they don't need the aid the US was offering. Senate
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  Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said while he was not in Arizona,
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  he was at CNN studios telling them he would not
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  oppose Donald Trump's demand for a clean stopgap bill. He said,
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  though we hope it doesn't come to that. Emerging deal
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  between TikTok and China and the United States would ensure
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  that the US companies control the algorithm and that the
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  majority of the seats on the board overseeing US operations
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  of TikTok and Byte Dance would be held by Americans.
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  was torn apart by violence as a twenty three year
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  old came in shooting, but patrons quickly subdued the assailant
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  and only one person lost his life. Robert to Caesar
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  fifty nine. Police have the suspect in the custody, and
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  those are some of our first things this morning. Andy
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  is hanging on from Sarasota, Florida, this morning. Good morning, Andy.
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  How are you doing, sir?
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  Speaker 8: Doing great? I wanted to first of all, share that
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  I went back to Charlottesville, UH, to honor Tony Dennett
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  h and Barry park Hill, who were both in that
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  Purple Heart story. But additionally Bobara Tella, that.
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  Speaker 6: The great sports psychologist who actually helped to get Roy
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  mckelroy that that green jacket. Yeah, it was just fascinating
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  being there at the Glenmore Country Club with those three people.
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  And I was a guest of my my college roommate.
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  Speaker 8: I had a house you know, housemate, so we used
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  to cook together. It was that you know, mixed sex house,
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  and it seemed to work just fine. And so I
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  went back there and just was celebrating and got to
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  spend some time with both owners. Her second husband was
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  what nicer than her first husband?
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  Speaker 7: That's often the case. Here's it interesting? You bring up
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  Tony Bennett, and obviously we're speaking of the basketball coach,
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  not the crooner, but Tony's career. And I think this
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  is still a story. I don't know if he said
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  anything or alluded to anything. The chapter that comes after
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  him stepping away at the height of his career, it
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  seems from a basketball and collegiate athletics landscape that was
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  rapidly changing. Did he allude to anything that might be
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  coming in regards to what he might be doing next,
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  whether it be helping manage the name, image likeness, cash
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  grab and land rush or anything like that.
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  Speaker 8: Andy he answered the question that exact question with spending
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  more time helping people understand his love of Christ. Oh,
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  it was I wife was doing something with some other
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  ladies in that world. And I mean she wasn't even
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  in the audience, wrote Tella's wife was.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't.
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  Speaker 8: I'd never met him. I had never met her. And
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  he's talking about his own father being really rough on
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  him and that he'd been a Catholic all his life,
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  and you know, New York City area and stuff, and
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  it was just fascinating city. But one of the jaw
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  dropping moments for me personally is the person I was
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  sitting with had been a teacher and later a counselor
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  at the middle school, but before that actually was in
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  the elementary school. But before that she had been, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Keep Your Hands Off My Stack, Rivalry opponents us or them,
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  a society being torn apart by Marxist ideologies of US
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  versus them playing against high school. This is why I
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  hung on to Andy. He was about to tell a
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  story about a school counselor he knew and ran into
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  over the weekend. And it's so important because this is
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  with tongue in cheek, made the case that you'd be
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  really disappointed if you found out how much of our
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  US House of Representatives and Senate breaks itself down pretty
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  much the same way high school did with petty rivalries.
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  And this idea that if you have something, it's at
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  my cost that I've lost something. And Andy, I just
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  want to kind of build out your resume. Is you
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  you've been an athletic facility builder in years past before
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  your retirement.
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  Speaker 8: Before that, I was actually an incredible athlete so far.
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  Speaker 7: I was recruited by by or Cherry.
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  Speaker 8: Holland when he was at Davidson, So I was at
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  that level.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 8: So you're a you're a but the state told me
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  I was not going to play there, but Davidson would
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  be thought so.
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  Speaker 7: But I'm saying the idea that you and even maybe
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  more so because of your athletic career before that, you know,
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  you can run in a race and win, and you
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  can run in a wait race and finish second. And
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  if you're doing the best you can and you and
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  you don't succeed, you can go back and try and
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  figure out, well, what do I need to do a
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  little bit better? What do I need to do more of?
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  But more over than that, when you left college and
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  got into the business career of building athletic facilities, I'm
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  sure there are instances where your company was chosen for
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  a project and another wasn't, and vice versa happened, and
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  there were projects that you did and some of you
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  didn't do. This idea that you know, it's a nihilist
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  you know, if it's all me or none you know me?
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  Is I think what's partially tearing us apart societally this
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  idea that if you have something, I uh, it's because
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  you've you've taken it from me somehow.
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  Speaker 8: I totally agree with you, And it's sad, but it's
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  that's actually people believe that. And my goal was to
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  associate myself with the best purveyors of the best products
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  and then take those things to the market. And I
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  did that probably between nineteen ninety one and nineteen ninety nine,
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  and just as I was about to kind of explode
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  on the national scene, I was in a car wreck,
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  which kind of stopped.
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  Speaker 1: My Yeah, I mean it really was.
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  Speaker 8: It was like t boned in downtown Richmond or near
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  downtown to the thirtieth birthday.
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  Speaker 7: So he was.
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  Speaker 8: Married and had married a Vanderbilt lawyer, and she had
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  gone to Uba and they had been a sweethearts for
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  most of that time. And so my life changed dramatically.
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  I had the best laid plans and never wants to
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  ever do anything on tour to try and you know game, babe,
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  and you.
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  Speaker 7: Seem to have pivoted Wall in your life. So you
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  were telling a story of a counselor, and I want
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  to and there was a reason I kind of tie
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  the two backgrounds together. So tell us this counselor story
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  you were telling us this.
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  Speaker 8: My host was a family that I've known for a
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  long long time, a husband and wife. And you know,
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  I've known her longer because we were cooking partners on
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  Lewis Mountain Road, which is just up the street from
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  both University of whatever. The basketball a little thing used
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  to be and also where the I think the alumni
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  association is still So I'm like walking down and there
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  was no money for me as the white man back.
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  You know, this is over fifty years ago. I had
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  to drop out of school when my father hadn't paid
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  a tuition bill at William and Mary, and so I'm
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  like working my way through school, kind of figuring it
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  out as I went. But I ended up in this
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  really really interesting place. And the Lucy Craig of like
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  Craig Builder's family. Uh, and you know, they were just
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  I didn't know them very very well. They come by
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  every once in a while, but mostly Lucy and I
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  were shopping and cooking, and.
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  Speaker 7: You were school, you were classmates, you know, you were
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  working together, right.
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  Speaker 8: And so But many years later, after I'd gotten out
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  of this horrific uh you know, borderline personality disordered marriage,
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  I reconnected with Lucy and she had supposed to being retired,
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  but you know, she she ended up having been a
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  counselor and a teacher, never left Elmull County schools. And
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  the thing this story that was jaw dropping. There were
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  probably three hundred people that read this at this event
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  honoring Tony Bennett and uh, oh.
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  Speaker 7: They you know, all the other folks. But so her
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  story yeah and so but he uh that the great.
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  Speaker 8: Motivator I'm going brain dead on his name right now.
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  But anyways, that he had been chosen by the prom
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  queen to escort her across the field as her father
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  was dying of cancer and he died like a day
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  after like the prom thing that are whatever the little
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  field did that they do, the prom queen thing. And
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  so he looked at her and he went not like, oh,
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  I'm great, she said, I do remember that as as
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  gently as Tony Bennett would not take credit for any
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  of the stuff that his teammate died.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and that's an important thing. And you talk about
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  the great Motivator, I don't know if you met a person.
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  I always just know that societally we were raised. Oh, Bob,
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  Bob Rotell, Bob Rotel yea, the sports psychologist.
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  Speaker 8: He helped. Yeah, but he helped. He told the story
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  of of you know, sort of his early ones and
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  then but then he focused on the Masters that was
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  won by Rory McKell and so you know, he can
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  take a little bit of credit for that, and people
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  wanted to give him more credit than he was.
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  Speaker 1: Wait.
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  Speaker 7: But Rotella's thing. Rotella's thing is your ability is always
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  in you, and it's trying to find the thing that
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  you're you're torpedoing yourself with that that is often you
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  know what's standing in the way of whatever it is.
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  The accomplishment I know I know Bob well enough to
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  know that is that he's always He's always looking for
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  the thing that you're doing to yourself there. But this
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  is the thing about COUNTS. I was curious about high
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  school and this counselor working with COUNTSL kids and helping
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  them through that same kind of situation because I think
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  the sooner and we don't give kids enough credit. We
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  have about a minute left here, Andy. We don't give
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  kids enough credit for being able to learn these things.
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  And and that's where I feel like we're at peril.
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  And one of the things Charlie Kirk really did a
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  great job of tapping into is giving young people credit.
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  Speaker 8: Now you're here exactly right they I was shocked by
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  what happened to Charlie. I actually just sent you a
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  testimonial that James o'keef had, you know, he sent something.
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  I'm him a chance to read it all but I'm
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  forwarded and I had actually gotten to photographs James o'keef
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  over at Turning Point over on the other stop of Florida,
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  not knowing anything about it. I just was James James's
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  guest as a friend, and we've.
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  Speaker 7: Got we've got the news here. Andy, I've got to
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  run my friend. You have a blessed morning.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, keep you too, Sank, thank you.
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  page I mean, they may have called a lawyer and said, hey,
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  But back to Maurice's email about just an offhand comment
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  I made. I use the word evolution, meaning societal evolution.
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  How we wind up in this place where we have
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  this mercantilist Marxism that's playing on our own seven vices,
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  jealousy being one of the most powerful ones. That you know,
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  you don't have everything the TV commercial says you should have,
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  so therefore somebody has taking your birthright from you. So
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  like if somebody loses their job as a radio show host,
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  where they the victim of some sort of agenda, I
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  run into this. I just very recently lost a job
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  doing radio for the Temeritus. Recent I purchased my own
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  radio station. I guess I guess it was good that
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  I purchased my own radio station because doing so found
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  me unemployed from the one I had been running with
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  all of my heart and soul for decades. But I
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  didn't lose it because the government got rid of me. So, Maurice,
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  your question about my comment about evolution is based in
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  a story right here in our hometown. I guess, almost
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  a month ago, maybe a little bit less than a
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  spread the message. And for every person that says having
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  don't see YouTube putting high bars towards getting a program
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  out of your own. So this minister, Corey, I wasn't
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  planning until your email came in. Maurice just held bent
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  for leather over my question over this evolution story. And
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  I should be aware that my quips need to be
• 34:20
  vetted just as much as my commentaries, because sometimes somebody
• 34:23
  like Maurice will question them. So this podcaster and minister
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  brought up a letter that had come out from local
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  school board that interestingly said, hey, and here's what we're
• 34:37
  going to be teaching your kids. These are some of
• 34:39
  the things that are in program, and for some reason
• 34:41
  they felt it urgently important to tell parents in this
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  central Virginia school district that evolution was going to be
• 34:48
  a big part of the science curriculum this year, to
• 34:53
  which some of the parents said, well, hang on a
• 34:55
  second here, do you mean evolution and creationism or just evolution?
• 35:04
  And this made it all the way up to a
• 35:06
  school board meeting about a week and a half or go.
• 35:09
  Maybe a little bit more, but I think it's about
• 35:12
  and a half maybe two weeks ago school board meeting.
• 35:14
  It comes up in conversation. People are activated by this
• 35:18
  idea that you know, it's going to be all one
• 35:21
  side or another on how we got here. And you
• 35:29
  might want to file this, Maurice under my famous new
• 35:32
  heading porque nolos dos. But I'll explain why in a second.
• 35:40
  So one of the school board members said that evolution
• 35:45
  has not lived up to the strictest scrutinians of science.
• 35:53
  And this has got everyone, oh, my gosh, it's the
• 35:56
  Scopes monkey trial all over again, and all it's and
• 36:01
  it's not. It's a simple question. And I run into
• 36:05
  this frequently with big bangers who say, Joe, how can
• 36:11
  you question the science. We've traced all these elements, and
• 36:15
  we've used the Hubble telescope and now the Jim Webb
• 36:19
  former Senator, and I don't think it's Jim Webb, but
• 36:22
  the Web telescope, and we've gone all the way back
• 36:24
  and we've got we've got evidence of everything that happened
• 36:29
  just after the Big Bang. We can get almost all
• 36:33
  the way back to the Big Bang. So okay, how
• 36:37
  does that debunk my idea that God sat there and
• 36:41
  went well, because we can get almost all the way
• 36:45
  back to the Big Bang, whether it just the elements
• 36:47
  in our age. Yeah, and you can't get back to
• 36:51
  the Big Bang or that which came before it. So
• 36:55
  certainly what happened after the Big Bang doesn't seem to
• 37:00
  be questionable. You've got all the science that you've been collecting,
• 37:04
  but you still can't take me back before the Big
• 37:07
  Bank to say what was happening?
• 37:09
  Speaker 22: That was it?
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: The collapse of a universe. There's a theory about that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: God saying, go, you can't do it. So scientific inquiry
• 37:20
  gets you only to a point. You see what I'm
• 37:26
  saying about creationism, and that you to be a fair scientist,
• 37:31
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• 37:33
  have to look at evolutionism and all the other scientisms,
• 37:43
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• 37:47
  one thing or another. And the danger right now is
• 37:50
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• 37:53
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  Speaker 7: So what do I use the scientism for? And that's
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  the more important thing, is not that there is scientism. Scientism,
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  it's inanimate until it's used, until it's weaponized. So science
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  you keep until you answer your question. And the scientists,
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  folks who have pointed out very aptly that we have
• 45:27
  traced all the matter in the universe back to this
• 45:31
  moment just after the Big Bang, which is great. I mean,
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• 45:41
  all of this stuff and look back in time and
• 45:44
  see all of the movement of matter and find all
• 45:48
  that stuff, as Carl Sagan called it, right up till
• 45:52
  the point right after the Big Bang. And it's no
• 45:59
  blot sliding against anyone who's done that. This is where
• 46:02
  the scientism comes in. This is for all the folks
• 46:05
  in Augusta County, here, our flagship city, who have lost
• 46:08
  their bowel control over this scientific inquiry, says, keep trying
• 46:13
  to figure out what came before the Big Bang? Was
• 46:16
  it God saying go? Or was it an imploding universe.
• 46:22
  Let's just say, let's say we're sitting at the diner
• 46:25
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• 46:27
  the end of the universe. Pardon me bad, Douglas Adams references.
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  Let's say you and I are sitting here having a
• 46:35
  bit milliways the restaurant at the end of the universe.
• 46:39
  The universe is about to end and start again. Okay,
• 46:43
  but you can't take me there. Science can't get me
• 46:46
  to milliways, can't go forward fast enough to get there,
• 46:49
  and can't go back far enough to get there, So
• 46:52
  you can't prove that it happened. You can prove that
• 46:54
  all this other stuff happened after the Big Bang. So
• 47:00
  excuse me if I sit there and say there's a
• 47:02
  reasonable scientific chance fifty to fifty even that somebody like
• 47:07
  God said go, and then everything started, and now we've
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  Big Bang. That's it. That's all it is is scientific inquiry.
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  But the scientism what is it? And this is part
• 47:30
  and parcel of what went on yesterday in Phoenix, the
• 47:34
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• 47:40
  One of the reasons Charlie Kirk was so effective is
• 47:43
  that he understood what his role in the world was.
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  And it wasn't that he did or didn't believe in evolution,
• 47:53
  or that we started at a point, we evolved from
• 47:56
  there and where did we come from? And where's the
• 47:59
  missing link? And how can we all of a sudden
• 48:01
  we're here but not there and all of those questions,
• 48:04
  which are scientific questions. But the scientism is weaponized to
• 48:15
  make you stop believing that there is some higher purpose
• 48:19
  to your life in the world. We're just consumers of
• 48:23
  the things that Earth produces, and this becomes the weapon
• 48:28
  of the frightening technocrat that wants to depopulate the earth,
• 48:39
  the climate change zealots, the paul Erliks. Interesting, how that's
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  such a Nazi name. Alek Vice moscl Aerlech is here.
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  He has a wonderful theory on too many people, many
• 48:58
  of them must be jewls Field Marshal Elick so Paul
• 49:05
  Erlik and his population bomb and the addicts to the
• 49:10
  adherence to this that they are just too many consumers,
• 49:15
  excess consumers of resources on this planet. Have the leaky
• 49:26
  at the World Economic Forum two or three years ago,
• 49:29
  asked the questions, she said, well, I think population should
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  go back to where it was about fifteen hundred. I'll
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  get a couple of good plagues going and we can
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  do that. They tried with the Wu flu and we
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  were damned too. Smart form people figured out ways to
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  get ivermecnum and treat sick people. Society keeps evolving because
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  we keep adding more stuff to the cosmos of human experience.
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  It's what we do here. We share it, we lay
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  it out there. Maurice, your email, nobody is subjecting you
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  to anything. And this is the part that really is frustrating,
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  because again, this is constitutionalism. You think your free speech
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  is this mandate to be you know, celebrated for your beliefs,
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  and that's fine. Go find people who will do that.
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  But don't yell at me because I'm not doing that
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  for you, or that I'm questioning the things you question.
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  As I said, your email is fine, and I agree
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  that you have great points about science. It's the scientism
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  and how that gets weaponized against us and turned into
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  population control eugenics, which is also a science, by the way.
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  And it's a horrific place, and it's an ungodly place.
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  And maybe I'm wrong. I don't care. It's how I
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  live my life. I live my life to serve you
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  the best I can. And this is why I said
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  put it under my favorite new heading, pork nolos dose.
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  The irony of somebody who took four years, eight semesters
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  of Spanish and had to go look up pork nolos
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  dose in Google Translate, just to make sure as a
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  why can't it be both? Why can't it? And this
• 51:45
  is this absolutionism that, economically speaking, gets back to President
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  Trump's point about having rivals, and I can't look like
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  my opponent. We're not each other's opponents. There are instances
• 51:59
  where you might get a job or not get a job.
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  I've been fired and new people were on the radio
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  the next morning at five am. It's a real gut
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  punch when you hear the older you're my caller, You're
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  not my caller. You're a caller to a radio station
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  who needs to know and explore and question things. So
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  if they fire me tomorrow, somebody else will be on
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  your radio tomorrow morning and you'll call them. Hopefully they're
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  taking phone calls to anyway. An It's not a zero
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  sum game. This is what the Marxist wants you to believe.
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  This is why if you take anything from anything, it's
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  ms Kirks. I forgive them until tomorrow morning. I'm Joe Thomas,
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  so long and thanks for all the fish.
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