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Real World Impact of Shutdowns: Who will stand up and lead? · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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Speaker 1: It's six eastern it's three o'clock pacific this is a
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Speaker 1: president of action coast to coast and around the world
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Speaker 1: from the america out loud talk radio studios if he.
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Speaker 2: Says he's serious about something he means it.
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Speaker 1: It's time for the truth be told with booker scott.
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Speaker 2: The No Kings protests over the weekend looked to me
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Speaker 2: like there were a lot more people attending now than
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Speaker 2: there were earlier in the year. What does that mean?
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Speaker 2: Did the Democrats have momentum going into the November midterm?
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm Booker. This is The Truth Be Told.
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Speaker 2: And as always on Mondays, we have Matt Palumbo. Matt,
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Speaker 2: welcome back into the program. Great to have you.
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Speaker 3: Good to be back as always.
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Speaker 2: Did you pay attention to the No Kings protests over
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Speaker 2: the weekend?
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Speaker 3: Well, I woke up this morning and noticed that we
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Speaker 3: don't have a king, so I guess they were successful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's odd to me that these people that are
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Speaker 2: doing this don't even realize that if we had a king,
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Speaker 2: they couldn't be doing what they're doing. But concerning to
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Speaker 2: me is the amount of people that were there. There
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Speaker 2: were over 3,100 of these No Kings protests across the country,
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Speaker 2: and to me it looked like they're far more organized
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Speaker 2: than they were last March when they had the first ones.
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Speaker 2: We talked about it then.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it honestly did surprise me because I believe
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Speaker 3: this is the third one and they just kind of
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Speaker 3: repeat the same protest every month and I would have
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Speaker 3: assumed it would have went the other direction or just
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Speaker 3: kind of fizzled out. But there does seem to be
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Speaker 3: a lot of enthusiasm coming from the left. There are
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Speaker 3: a lot of Um, and also this is, you know,
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Speaker 3: the worst news is that independents do seem to be
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Speaker 3: breaking left by significant margins and that there were some
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Speaker 3: special elections recently in Florida that I think we'll talk
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Speaker 3: about where, you know, Republicans had, you know, let's say
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Speaker 3: a five to 10 point advantage in registration and they
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Speaker 3: were turning out. It's just that the independents were breaking
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Speaker 3: Democrat by a very, very large margin enough to outweigh that. So, um,
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Speaker 3: It definitely is not great news to see. I hate
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Speaker 3: to be saying this, but I think we need to
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Speaker 3: be realistic in terms of where things are trending.
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Speaker 2: Well, you and I both are very negative when it
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Speaker 2: comes to the House of Representatives in the November midterm.
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Speaker 2: We both say the same thing, though. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of time between now and then. Things can change. People
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Speaker 2: can get activated. They need to have some sort of fear,
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Speaker 2: I believe. There's nothing to energize the base on the
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Speaker 2: right right now. And I've said this a lot, Matt.
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Speaker 2: When it comes down to it, over the last four
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Speaker 2: or five election cycles, it's been the border and it's
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Speaker 2: been abortion. And both of those things have really been solved.
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Speaker 2: And now we have DHS is still no longer funded.
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Speaker 2: The Senate came together with something. The House quickly rejected it.
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Speaker 2: And then they go on vacation for two weeks.
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Speaker 3: Calling it a Republican shutdown when every single Democrat is
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Speaker 3: voted to keep a government shut down and every Republican
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Speaker 3: to keep it open. And that, though, there are The
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Speaker 3: Louisville narrative framing still doesn't seem to matter, though, because
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Speaker 3: the mainstream media will just pick it up and spread it.
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Speaker 3: And then the sort of normie-ish, slow information voters just
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Speaker 3: buy it up. So, you know, very depressing to see.
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Speaker 3: And a lot of the Kings things, like I'll at
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Speaker 3: least give them credit for not being as crazy and
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Speaker 3: violent as the Antifa people. But you look at the
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Speaker 3: interviews with them and they really don't have any idea
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Speaker 3: what's going on. It is like we're living in two
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Speaker 3: different realities.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct. They are very low information. They only get
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Speaker 2: their news from one source. We know what that source is.
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Speaker 2: And it's not very good for actually delivering the truth
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Speaker 2: and what is really happening. And that's the world that
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Speaker 2: they live in. And it's two different worlds. And I've
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Speaker 2: got a clip from Cory Booker where he addressed that.
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Speaker 2: And I'll get to that in a few minutes. I
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Speaker 2: think he's running for president. I think that's what this
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Speaker 2: clip is about. But let's go to this clip because
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Speaker 2: this is a reporter asking Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday...
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Speaker 2: something that I believe all of us feel, regardless of
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Speaker 2: whether we're Democrat, Republican, or Independent. I think we all
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Speaker 2: feel the way this reporter felt when he asked this question.
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Speaker 1: The American people are just sick and tired of every
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Speaker 1: one of you, both Republicans and Democrats, come to this
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Speaker 1: podium and blame the other side.
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Speaker 3: People have been standing in lines three, four, five hours
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Speaker 3: at a time.
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Speaker 1: There are TSA workers that are selling their plasma.
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Speaker 4: At what point is a leader on either side going
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Speaker 4: to stand up and say, We have.
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Speaker 3: A path forward that everyone will agree to.
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Speaker 5: This vote today will extend the shutdown under any circumstances.
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Speaker 3: No, it won't. No, it won't.
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Speaker 2: And it didn't. And I think that question was spot on.
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Speaker 2: Everybody is sick of these Republicans and the Democrats coming
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Speaker 2: to the podium and pointing the finger the other way.
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Speaker 2: We need solutions. We have a Department of Homeland Security
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Speaker 2: that is shut down. the only part of the government
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Speaker 2: that is shut down now, which, by the way, it's
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Speaker 2: the longest government shutdown in American history, over 44 days now.
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Speaker 2: TSA did get paid on Monday, thanks to Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: doing an executive order. That's their first paycheck in a
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Speaker 2: long time. In fact, since the government shut down last November,
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Speaker 2: they have not been paid more than they have been paid.
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Speaker 2: And if you pay attention to the people calling in
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Speaker 2: sick and not working here, in these airports across the country,
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Speaker 2: the numbers are phenomenal. 25%, 30% are calling in every day,
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Speaker 2: and they're not going to work. When we have a
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Speaker 2: war with the world's largest terrorist state in Iran going
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Speaker 2: on right now over in the Middle East, we're very vulnerable,
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Speaker 2: and the people that we need to protect us on
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Speaker 2: the planes are not going to work. And I put
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Speaker 2: out a post over the weekend about this, and I
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Speaker 2: really just said, you know, after COVID and we started
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Speaker 2: flying again, that TSA was deemed essential workers, and they
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Speaker 2: are essential every day, but somehow we can't even pay
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Speaker 2: them and take care of them. It's time to take
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Speaker 2: care of.
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Speaker 6: Them, Matt.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm torn on the TSA in that they are
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Speaker 3: obviously essential and should be getting paid, but it is
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Speaker 3: one part of government I think would function way better
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Speaker 3: if it was privatized. And that like there are, I think,
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Speaker 3: 70 or so airports in the U.S. that have privatized
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Speaker 3: airport security and it runs way faster than TSA does.
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Speaker 3: So I know it's kind of a separate discussion. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: I'm pro, you know, funding those and paying those who
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Speaker 3: are currently working. But I do think the whole system
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Speaker 3: needs an overhaul, though, not like this is going to
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Speaker 3: lead to that or anything. But I thought it was
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Speaker 3: worth noting.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard Representative John or Jim Banks? I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Representative Jim Banks of Indiana. I think the guy should
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Speaker 2: be out front a whole lot more for the Republicans.
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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say on this government shutdown
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Speaker 2: and about the Democrats.
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Speaker 4: If you're in an airport and you see these long lines,
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Speaker 4: you better know, I think most of them do know,
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Speaker 4: it's Democrats and Chuck Schumer that are causing the long
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Speaker 4: lines at airports. And it's because they hate ICE officers.
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Speaker 4: They don't just want to defund the police.
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Speaker 3: They want to eliminate.
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Speaker 4: ICE and the federal law enforcement that's deporting violent criminals
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Speaker 4: off of our streets. I mean, this is wild, if
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Speaker 4: you think about it, that that's Democrats' top priority. They
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Speaker 4: want to tie President Trump's hands in Iran to take
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Speaker 4: out terrorists. We're in a fight with the biggest state
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Speaker 4: sponsor of terrorism in the world. And at the same time,
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Speaker 4: the Democrats have shut down the Department of Homeland Security
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Speaker 4: at home, which makes us less safe. that that's the
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Speaker 4: democrats priority yesterday as well on the save america act
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Speaker 4: these crazy democrats every single one of them voted against
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Speaker 4: a bill to keep boys out of girls sports and
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Speaker 4: that's a radical and crazy the democrats are i hope
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Speaker 4: we can get department of homeland security reopen this week
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Speaker 4: because you have so many families who are traveling over
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Speaker 4: spring break you see these long lines it's going to
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Speaker 4: affect a lot of people but it's the.
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Speaker 2: Democrats and there is more finger pointing there from jim
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Speaker 2: banks but I think we are paying way too much
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Speaker 2: attention to the noise. I see this on social media,
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Speaker 2: and I think it's reflected in the way that people
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Speaker 2: are not going to vote when you're a Republican. And
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Speaker 2: that's what has cost us many races all the way
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Speaker 2: back to November. We've talked about it. And you mentioned
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Speaker 2: those Florida races. Let's talk about that right now, because
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Speaker 2: you had the representative for the area of Mar-a-Lago. that
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Speaker 2: actually flipped to a Democrat. And this was a couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago. And then there was another race for
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Speaker 2: state Senate in Tampa area where I am. And that
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Speaker 2: was also flipped from a Democrat to the Republican. You
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Speaker 2: see this repeatedly in all of these races. Republicans are
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Speaker 2: not going to vote. I think a part of it, Matt,
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Speaker 2: is that we're too caught up in all of the
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Speaker 2: noise and the noise being things like the Epstein files,
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Speaker 2: things like whether we should be in Iran or not.
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Speaker 2: Those things, and you know, Donald Trump, he did say
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Speaker 2: that we're not going to have any more foreign wars.
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Speaker 2: I think this is an offensive measure, and we're going
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Speaker 2: to talk about Iran in the second segment, but I
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Speaker 2: believe it's an offensive measure so that we don't have
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Speaker 2: to be defensive later. That's the way I see this.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's a lot of noise. I think
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Speaker 2: if you go back 15, 16 months ago, Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: is 14 months into this 47th presidency. If you go
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Speaker 2: back then and I tell you that in a year,
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump will have completely shut down the border, not
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Speaker 2: allowing any legal immigrants in for nine months in a row.
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Speaker 2: And if prior to the government shutdown last year, GDP
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Speaker 2: was at 4.3%. Wage growth was out. It was much
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Speaker 2: higher than inflation. Inflation was steady at about 2.7%. When
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Speaker 2: the top two things in the election of 2024 in
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Speaker 2: November were the border and the economy, everybody would be
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Speaker 2: ecstatic about the job that Donald Trump had done at
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Speaker 2: that point. And because of the Epstein files, because of Iran,
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Speaker 2: because of all of these other things, which I call noise,
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Speaker 2: we're not paying attention to the fact that if we
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Speaker 2: lose this election in November. the Senate and the House.
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Speaker 2: The House doesn't look good. The Senate's questionable. And then
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Speaker 2: in 28, we lose the presidency and they have all
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Speaker 2: of them. We're going to get everything that we don't want.
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Speaker 2: And that's the fight that we're in. We're against vaccine mandates. Remember,
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Speaker 2: they wanted to do that. They wanted to censor your
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Speaker 2: speech with a misinformation board. All of that's going to
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Speaker 2: be coming back. So by listening to the noise and
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Speaker 2: not going to vote, we're costing ourselves and we're creating
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Speaker 2: the very thing that we don't want or don't need
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Speaker 2: in this country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing people have to realize is, like, consider
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Speaker 3: the counterfactual. Like, if you're in the position where you say, okay,
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Speaker 3: we deported, let's say, a million people last year, I
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Speaker 3: think it should have been three or four million or whatever. Okay, obviously,
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Speaker 3: everyone wants the number to be higher. But if Biden
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Speaker 3: was still in office, we were taking in at least
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Speaker 3: two million a year. So that's a difference of 3
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Speaker 3: million illegals per year. That's a difference of basically 1%
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Speaker 3: of the entire population increasing just because of illegal aliens
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Speaker 3: every year. It's a massive difference. And, you know, that's
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Speaker 3: going to compound over decades and so on and so forth. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, just remember that despite that, you know, any...
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Speaker 3: Things you might not be happy about with Trump, it
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Speaker 3: would be so much worse if the Democrats were in power.
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Speaker 3: And it is sad that voters' attention span seems to
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Speaker 3: be the past week or so, but that's kind of
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Speaker 3: where we're at. When it comes to Iran, I agree.
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Speaker 3: I do think it is a temporary offensive measure to
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Speaker 3: end up saving us money, time, lives in the future. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: Iran does want to be a nuclear power, despite some
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Speaker 3: liberals who bizarrely deny that. But I do think the
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Speaker 3: talk of boots on the ground and $ 200 billion to
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Speaker 3: fight is going to scare a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has. And I want to get into the
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Speaker 2: boots on the ground here in the second segment. I
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Speaker 2: want to dive deeper into that. But I'm more concerned
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Speaker 2: about this midterm election and the way people are really
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Speaker 2: not paying attention to what's most important. Because what is
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Speaker 2: most important is to keep us from going back to
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Speaker 2: where we were when Joe Biden allowed 10 to 15
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Speaker 2: million illegals into this country. when he tried to censor
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Speaker 2: our speech, when he worked with big tech to do that.
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Speaker 2: Those are the things that we don't want to go
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Speaker 2: back to that we can't go back to. We just can't.
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Speaker 2: And if we don't energize ourselves to go out and vote,
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Speaker 2: then that's exactly what we're going to get, unfortunately. And
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Speaker 2: we have to remember that. We have to remember how
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Speaker 2: bad it was coming through those four years. And I
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Speaker 2: think we're losing focus. And I don't know that the
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Speaker 2: RNC and the GOP really has a good ground game.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to me like they do. I spoke
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Speaker 2: to the head of the RNC this last week, Joe Gruters.
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Speaker 2: I speak to him quite frequently. We send messages back
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Speaker 2: and forth. I'm not convinced that they have anything in
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Speaker 2: place to make a difference. I think, you know, going
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Speaker 2: back to Susie Wiles and Donald Trump and what they
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Speaker 2: talked about probably two months ago, her big plan is
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Speaker 2: to get Donald Trump out on the trail. I just
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Speaker 2: don't think it's enough, though. It has to be more
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Speaker 2: than about a man and rallies. It needs to be
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Speaker 2: about substance.
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Speaker 3: Well, it should be more, but it's, you know, when
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Speaker 3: Trump is on the ballot, Republicans do do a lot better,
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Speaker 3: and that is a mobilizing force for the right. I mean,
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Speaker 3: a lot of the people that voted for Trump in
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Speaker 3: 2024 that pushed him across the line were people who were,
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Speaker 3: a lot of them were not Republicans. They were people
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Speaker 3: who just liked Trump. I mean, I think Trump is
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Speaker 3: the only Republican in history to get more than 50%
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Speaker 3: of a minority vote. racial demographics vote. He got Hispanic
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Speaker 3: men by, I think, 52%. And it's a group that
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Speaker 3: normally goes 60%, 70% Democrats. So there are unique attributes
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Speaker 3: of Trump where people who normally would not vote Republican
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Speaker 3: will only vote for him. So he definitely does help
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Speaker 3: to get him out. But yes, I agree. We want
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Speaker 3: our ideology to be winning. It makes the job a
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Speaker 3: lot easier. And when it comes to the RNC versus DNC,
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Speaker 3: The fact that I think it's like 80 or 90
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Speaker 3: percent right now that Democrats are able to take back
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Speaker 3: the House. But the RNC has I think it's over
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Speaker 3: 100 million dollars in cash on hand. If it's not
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Speaker 3: over 100 million, it's high, you know, tens of millions.
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Speaker 3: The DNC, I believe, is actually in debt and has.
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Speaker 2: Very low cash on hand. Yeah, they're broke.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're broke and they're still beating us. So, you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're planning on spending any of
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Speaker 3: the money anytime soon, but I think it would probably
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Speaker 3: be of help at this exact moment.
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Speaker 2: Do you think Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and the divide
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Speaker 2: that they are creating will also have an effect on it?
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Speaker 2: Because I see that on social media. And I know
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Speaker 2: that social media is a completely different thing than the
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Speaker 2: real world. But I also wonder if in the real world,
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Speaker 2: people are just tired of it. Like that reporter asked
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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, why do you keep blaming each other coming
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Speaker 2: to this podium, Democrats and Republicans saying the same thing?
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Speaker 2: I think the populace, they're just tired of it. And
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Speaker 2: maybe That's the case with the Republicans not showing up.
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Speaker 2: But I think Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, they do
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Speaker 2: have some responsibility in what we're seeing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I hate people who think everything is
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Speaker 3: a psyop, but it does feel like a psyop that
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Speaker 3: all these people in unison are pushing basically the exact
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Speaker 3: same narratives about Trump and sort of encouraging Republicans to
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Speaker 3: stay home and public. They're pushing this sort of like
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Speaker 3: third world propaganda, whereas I don't know if they actually
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Speaker 3: are being paid off, but it wouldn't surprise me if
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Speaker 3: they are. When it comes to Internet versus real life,
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Speaker 3: I know Tucker had that guy and he's running for
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Speaker 3: governor of Florida. I think his last name is Fishback
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Speaker 3: on his show to promote him. And I think within
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Speaker 3: a week of the interview, his campaign raised like a
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars or something. So, you know, that, that would
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Speaker 3: lead you to believe the internet certainly is not real life.
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Speaker 3: Although I will say, I, you know, speaking from people
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Speaker 3: I know in real life, the, I write the Iran campaign,
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Speaker 3: strike for a lot of people that I know did
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Speaker 3: seem to be sort of a breaking point of, okay,
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Speaker 3: now I'm disappointed in Trump. Now I'm not going to
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Speaker 3: turn up for the midterms. Although, you know, I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about a number of people I can count on, on
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Speaker 3: two hands, but I will say that is the only
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Speaker 3: real thing I've seen that has caused people to detract
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Speaker 3: from Trump.
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Speaker 2: And that just happened. We are now into the second
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Speaker 2: month and these elections that we're talking about, they go
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Speaker 2: back to November, November in Virginia, New Jersey. Yeah. That's
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Speaker 2: where all this started, where the Republicans were not showing
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Speaker 2: up to vote. Now add on top of that what
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Speaker 2: you just mentioned about Iran striking or America striking Iran
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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump making that decision. The gas prices are
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Speaker 2: up to $ 4 on average now, and that is what
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Speaker 2: people are concerned about. I want to go back to
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Speaker 2: the area of Palm Beach County, Florida, Mar-a-Lago. We mentioned
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Speaker 2: that race that took place a couple of weeks ago. Well,
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Speaker 2: a volunteer who participated in a training session at the
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Speaker 2: Palm Beach County University at the Palm Beach County Supervisor
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Speaker 2: of Elections Office, was arrested Sunday morning. His name was
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Speaker 2: John Panichi, and he was taken into custody on the
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Speaker 2: 28th of March following an investigation into the theft of
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Speaker 2: an encrypted access key from a voter registration terminal at
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Speaker 2: the elections office. Now, the incident occurred during a volunteer
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Speaker 2: training session on March 19th. which was five days before
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Speaker 2: that election, that special election that the Democrat won. According
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Speaker 2: to the detectives, Panichi stole the encrypted access key during
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Speaker 2: the training at the elections office on Cherry Road there
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Speaker 2: in Palm Beach. And so they tell us that there's
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Speaker 2: none of this going on, yet this guy got arrested.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it had anything to do with this
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Speaker 2: election because that access key was only for training. However,
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Speaker 2: they say with that access key, somebody could reverse engineer
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Speaker 2: to be able to gain access to the electronics on
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Speaker 2: election day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so with this access, could he change the vote
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Speaker 3: totals manually? Is that kind of the conclusion of what
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Speaker 3: he could do? Because if so, then Democrats have something
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Speaker 3: up their sleeve after we give voter ID.
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Speaker 2: Right, and this was something that took place in an
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Speaker 2: election that was won by 800 votes by the Democrats.
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Speaker 2: But it was not for this election. It was a
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Speaker 2: training access key. The point they're making is that somebody
18:30
Speaker 2: with technical knowledge could reverse engineer to do exactly what
18:34
Speaker 2: you just said. I mentioned Cory Booker. Let's go to him.
18:37
Speaker 2: He's a senator from New Jersey, a Democrat, and typically
18:41
Speaker 2: he's full of it, and he is really full of
18:44
Speaker 2: it on this one. But it sounds to me like
18:46
Speaker 2: he's setting up a run for the president. Here he is.
18:50
Speaker 7: Look, I'm proud of so many things that my Democratic
18:52
Speaker 7: colleagues are doing, but as a whole, our party has
18:55
Speaker 7: failed this moment. It's why I've called for new leadership
18:58
Speaker 7: in America. I've called for a generational renewal because this
19:02
Speaker 7: left-right divide is killing our country, and our adversaries know it.
19:06
Speaker 7: They come onto our social media and try to whip
19:08
Speaker 7: up hate in America. That is one of our biggest crises.
19:13
Speaker 7: It is time for a new vision of our country
19:15
Speaker 7: that's far more uniting, that brings people together, doesn't deepen divides.
19:19
Speaker 7: I really believe this is a time where we need
19:22
Speaker 7: new leadership, new moral imagination to pull our country together.
19:25
Speaker 7: Because the challenges on the horizon aren't just this current
19:28
Speaker 7: crisis that Trump has caused. He shouldn't be the main
19:32
Speaker 7: character of our narrative right now. We have real challenges
19:35
Speaker 7: from new technologies like AI and robotics, new challenges that
19:39
Speaker 7: we need more unity in our country and a reminder
19:42
Speaker 7: that we are not each other's enemies. In fact, our
19:44
Speaker 7: ability to find common ground has always been our greatest hope.
19:48
Speaker 2: I think you made a point there that I want
19:50
Speaker 2: to go back to. And that is the Democrat Party
19:53
Speaker 2: has to quit blaming and putting everything at Donald Trump
19:57
Speaker 2: because Donald Trump's not going to be around forever. And
20:00
Speaker 2: that strategy is going to be worthless for them in
20:03
Speaker 2: the future unless they stand for something. And they really don't.
20:07
Speaker 2: And everything else that Cory Booker said is just bull.
20:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. The Democrats probably need new leadership, which
20:13
Speaker 3: means no one who's even remotely like Cory Booker or
20:17
Speaker 3: anyone currently in the party. So I guess I can't
20:20
Speaker 3: offer any suggestions there. I was going to say next, though,
20:26
Speaker 3: the common ground thing. Yeah, I'm all for common ground
20:29
Speaker 3: with people who have shared morals with me, but maybe
20:32
Speaker 3: have a different approach for how to get there. That
20:35
Speaker 3: is not the divide we have in this country right now.
20:38
Speaker 3: The people who want to generally mutilate toddlers in the
20:41
Speaker 3: name of transgenderism and have men fighting against women and
20:46
Speaker 3: want to push anti-white propaganda and racial quotas and racial hysteria,
20:50
Speaker 3: like— I actually don't want to find common ground with them.
20:54
Speaker 3: There are certain people in politics that we should just
20:57
Speaker 3: defeat straight up. I mean, I'm sure, you know, when
21:00
Speaker 3: it comes to sane Democrats over many are left. Yeah, sure.
21:03
Speaker 3: I'll do that. Or the so-called moderates, if they exist.
21:06
Speaker 3: But most of the people on the left, you know,
21:08
Speaker 3: the types like Cory Booker, the sort of like theater
21:11
Speaker 3: kid types who are always you always see on social
21:15
Speaker 3: media who are clearly just trying to get a soundbite. Like,
21:18
Speaker 3: I would actually prefer to not have to work with them.
21:20
Speaker 3: So I disagree on that.
21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you on that. We're going
21:24
Speaker 2: to have more of this conversation continue in just a minute.
21:27
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Iran. It's coming up.
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23:09
Speaker 2: a rant. We got into it a little bit in
23:11
Speaker 2: the first segment, but As you mentioned, people are not
23:14
Speaker 2: happy about the boots on the ground thing. And what
23:17
Speaker 2: are you hearing there?
23:19
Speaker 3: Well, not much beyond the headlines, unfortunately. I'm hoping it's
23:22
Speaker 3: not a serious proposal or something that's just a rumor because,
23:26
Speaker 3: you know, once we put boots on the ground, it, it,
23:30
Speaker 3: you know, however long you think it's going to last,
23:32
Speaker 3: it's probably going to last 10 times longer than that,
23:34
Speaker 3: at least. So I think that would be a sort
23:36
Speaker 3: of point of no return, even if it's pitched as
23:39
Speaker 3: a sort of brief thing. So that has me very,
23:41
Speaker 3: very concerned, you know, at first when it's just, we're
23:44
Speaker 3: going to wipe out leadership and then hope the public
23:46
Speaker 3: sort of rises up. I was much more on board
23:48
Speaker 3: with it. This is a much more objectionable.
23:50
Speaker 2: Well, I know. And I think it's a narrative. Everybody
23:54
Speaker 2: loves talking about boots on the ground. But let's take
23:58
Speaker 2: this thing and look at it objectively. In the Iranian military,
24:03
Speaker 2: between the reservist and the full-time military, you have 950,000 members.
24:10
Speaker 2: Right now, America has about 5,000 Marines that have made
24:14
Speaker 2: their way to the area. And there's talk of the
24:16
Speaker 2: 82nd Airborne having 3,000 on standby. That's 8,000. If there
24:23
Speaker 2: is any type of boots on the ground, it is
24:26
Speaker 2: nothing like what people fear. It may be some special operations.
24:31
Speaker 2: It may be that they're going to go to some
24:34
Speaker 2: islands to help keep the Strait of Hormuz open. But
24:37
Speaker 2: it's not going to be a ground war game. It
24:40
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense. I mentioned this last week with you,
24:43
Speaker 2: that back in Desert Shield and then Desert Storm, it
24:46
Speaker 2: took months to build up the force that was in
24:49
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia which was 500,000 Americans. That is a real
24:55
Speaker 2: ground war. And I guess people your age, they don't
24:59
Speaker 2: remember that or they don't know the history. And none
25:03
Speaker 2: of that is taking place right now. And back when
25:06
Speaker 2: that did happen in 91, it was on the news
25:09
Speaker 2: every night because everybody knew somebody that was being called up.
25:13
Speaker 2: And it was a big deal because it had been
25:14
Speaker 2: 25 years since Vietnam at the time. So, you know,
25:19
Speaker 2: that's not happening. That's not what we're seeing here. It's
25:21
Speaker 2: a narrative. And it's part of that noise that I
25:24
Speaker 2: was talking about in that first segment. And people are
25:27
Speaker 2: falling for it. You can't do anything with 8,000 people.
25:30
Speaker 2: And by the way, how many are stationed in Europe
25:33
Speaker 2: right now? Somewhere between 80 and 100,000. By the way,
25:36
Speaker 2: two years ago, we moved 20,000 U.S. troops right in
25:40
Speaker 2: the Poland-Ukraine border. And people don't talk about that. But
25:44
Speaker 2: it happened. And I don't think 8,000 is going to
25:48
Speaker 2: do anything other than maybe a special operation, maybe hopping
25:52
Speaker 2: on an island and helping to open the Strait of Hormuz,
25:55
Speaker 2: which needs to be done. We're at $ 4 a gallon
25:58
Speaker 2: of gas now. And, you know, we have this negotiation
26:03
Speaker 2: going on, and I've spent time on it on the
26:05
Speaker 2: show without you, and we talked about it last week.
26:08
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I guess last week when we did
26:10
Speaker 2: our show, we were still under that 48 hours. And
26:12
Speaker 2: now we've extended it, Donald Trump has, to 10 days
26:15
Speaker 2: of more negotiating. And there's 15 points of the framework
26:19
Speaker 2: for America. There are three big things that I don't
26:22
Speaker 2: necessarily agree with that Iran would get, at least in
26:25
Speaker 2: what has been leaked. And have you seen those, Matt?
26:29
Speaker 3: Educate me.
26:30
Speaker 2: Okay, well, one of them is all the sanctions are lifted.
26:34
Speaker 2: And that's bothersome. And, of course, they can throw it
26:36
Speaker 2: back on. And another part of it is they're going
26:39
Speaker 2: to remove the snapback. which the snapback was part of
26:43
Speaker 2: Obama's negotiation that if Iran stepped over the line, didn't
26:46
Speaker 2: do what they were supposed to be doing, then it
26:49
Speaker 2: snapped back all the sanctions back into place. So that
26:52
Speaker 2: is what's being leaked as part of the negotiation. Meanwhile,
26:55
Speaker 2: Donald Trump negotiated with them prior to last June when
26:59
Speaker 2: we went after the nuclear sites. He did the same
27:02
Speaker 2: thing and they kept lying and they're lying again this time.
27:06
Speaker 2: That's what Iran does, and they are aggressively going after
27:09
Speaker 2: Arab nations. And I see a lot of conversation about, well,
27:12
Speaker 2: it's a regional war now. It still is not a
27:16
Speaker 2: regional war. Do you see it as a regional war?
27:18
Speaker 2: Because I don't.
27:20
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, technically it's not a war just yet,
27:22
Speaker 3: I guess. It's sort of at a preliminary stage depending
27:25
Speaker 3: on how it goes. So, no, I guess I don't
27:27
Speaker 3: see it that way yet.
27:31
Speaker 2: Well, let me say, the Houthis jumped in from Yemen
27:35
Speaker 2: over the weekend. And so some of the people talking
27:38
Speaker 2: on television on Sunday were talking about this is no
27:40
Speaker 2: doubt a regional war. I would push back and say
27:43
Speaker 2: it isn't. It's Iran against everybody else. Just because Hezbollah
27:47
Speaker 2: in Lebanon is bombing Israel and you have the Houthis
27:51
Speaker 2: in Yemen bombing Israel and other places, it means nothing
27:55
Speaker 2: because they are proxies of Iran. That has been the
27:58
Speaker 2: problem from the beginnings. They are not other nations in
28:00
Speaker 2: a regional conflict. All the other nations around Iran are
28:04
Speaker 2: against Iran. So this is not a regional conflict or
28:08
Speaker 2: a regional war. And speaking of a war, you have
28:11
Speaker 2: 60 days from the start of this. We're 30-plus days
28:14
Speaker 2: into this now. Donald Trump has to do something within
28:17
Speaker 2: 30 days to go back to Congress because of the
28:20
Speaker 2: War Powers Act.
28:21
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm wondering if we should read into the
28:26
Speaker 3: fact that the deadline keeps getting pushed back. Is this
28:29
Speaker 3: because they're not– are we bluffing them with some sort
28:33
Speaker 3: of consequences and they're not going along, so we have
28:36
Speaker 3: to extend it to save face? Or is it because
28:38
Speaker 3: the negotiations are actually getting made and we're just hiring
28:41
Speaker 3: out the details?
28:42
Speaker 8: I don't know.
28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously no one knows.
28:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't– I can't tell who we're negotiating with.
28:54
Speaker 2: And you have this foreign minister that's out there saying
28:56
Speaker 2: one thing and there's a negotiation going on. There isn't
28:59
Speaker 2: a negotiation. We get 10 tankers of oil. Where are they?
29:03
Speaker 2: Whatever you do, don't bring them to a port in
29:05
Speaker 2: America because I would think they're booby trapped. I wouldn't
29:09
Speaker 2: take any of those into America, send them somewhere else.
29:12
Speaker 2: But that was the big gift that Donald Trump mentioned
29:14
Speaker 2: last Tuesday. And then he came out Thursday and said
29:17
Speaker 2: that we're getting 10 tankers of oil from Iran. And
29:21
Speaker 2: in the middle of all of this is Pakistan negotiating this.
29:24
Speaker 2: I think Egypt is involved as well now. Pakistan is
29:27
Speaker 2: in their own war with Afghanistan. So it's a whole
29:31
Speaker 2: mess over there. And I don't see this lasting long.
29:35
Speaker 2: I think what will happen, because I mentioned this last
29:38
Speaker 2: week when we were together, and I want to say
29:40
Speaker 2: it again, because there is not an oil production problem.
29:43
Speaker 2: When this is over and when the Strait of Hormuz
29:46
Speaker 2: is opened up, you're going to see a barrel of
29:49
Speaker 2: oil probably drop down to 50 bucks a barrel. And
29:53
Speaker 2: you're going to see the inflation drop. You may see
29:57
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve have to lower interest rates, which will
30:01
Speaker 2: boom the economy. All of those things are coming when
30:04
Speaker 2: this is over. I still say that it's going to
30:07
Speaker 2: be over quickly. I know that you agreed with me
30:09
Speaker 2: on that before. Do you still feel that way? Or
30:11
Speaker 2: do you think or sense this is going somewhere else?
30:15
Speaker 3: Well, it's one of those things where I desperately want
30:17
Speaker 3: to believe it'll end quickly, so I'll just kind of
30:19
Speaker 3: pretend that's true if not. But I really do hope so.
30:24
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Trump is not a dumb guy. He
30:26
Speaker 3: knows what the consequences to him and the Republicans would
30:29
Speaker 3: be for a prolonged conflict. So if it does end
30:33
Speaker 3: up being prolonged, I assume that was not the plan
30:36
Speaker 3: going in.
30:37
Speaker 2: No, I agree with that because you do have the
30:39
Speaker 2: midterm that we talked about in the first segment. That
30:43
Speaker 2: is coming up, and if this continues, that's not a
30:45
Speaker 2: good thing for the midterm. In fact, if it continues,
30:50
Speaker 2: I would say that the Democrats will win 60 of
30:52
Speaker 2: those House races. It will be just like Obama in
30:56
Speaker 2: 2010 with the Tea Party, which was the most that
30:59
Speaker 2: was ever lost, 65 seats. It would be equivalent to that,
31:02
Speaker 2: I believe, Matt.
31:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be pretty brutal. I think we're probably
31:07
Speaker 3: on track to lose any 30 to 35, which itself
31:10
Speaker 3: is pretty bad. But the thing is, no laws are
31:13
Speaker 3: getting passed anyway. I think it was just the Lincoln-O'Reilly
31:16
Speaker 3: Act is really the only piece of legislation we've gotten through,
31:19
Speaker 3: if I'm remembering correctly. So we control all three. We
31:27
Speaker 3: control the House and Senate already and aren't getting anything done.
31:30
Speaker 3: So If we have the Senate but not the House,
31:33
Speaker 3: is anything really going to change that much worse-case scenario?
31:37
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, we'd prefer to have the seats as
31:40
Speaker 3: opposed to not having them, but already nothing's getting done
31:43
Speaker 3: there anyway. So I guess on the bright side, it
31:46
Speaker 3: won't change much, even though it's unfortunate to have to
31:48
Speaker 3: say that.
31:49
Speaker 2: Well, you're going to get impeachments. That's what's going to change.
31:52
Speaker 2: That will happen.
31:53
Speaker 3: Time sucks. But at least, I will say, I would
31:56
Speaker 3: rather the Democrats waste time with impeachment showboating than whatever
32:01
Speaker 3: sinister pieces of legislation they're going to try to unfold.
32:05
Speaker 3: But yes, it is going to be a disastrous news cycle.
32:09
Speaker 2: And this is something I wanted to talk about there
32:11
Speaker 2: in the first segment when we were talking about the
32:13
Speaker 2: elections and what the Republicans need to do, because I
32:17
Speaker 2: think this is really important right now because of the
32:20
Speaker 2: DHS shutdown and TSA not getting paid, Coast Guard not
32:24
Speaker 2: getting paid. I think that the Republicans need to consider
32:29
Speaker 2: that had they passed a reconciliation before September 30th of 2025,
32:35
Speaker 2: none of this would be happening. None of it. That
32:39
Speaker 2: is their responsibility to pass 12 appropriations prior to September 30th.
32:44
Speaker 2: for the next fiscal year. I say that to say this.
32:48
Speaker 2: That has to be done by the Republicans right now.
32:52
Speaker 2: In the next four months, they have to pass all
32:55
Speaker 2: 12 appropriations, put them in one reconciliation bill, and it
33:00
Speaker 2: needs to be done before September 30th. or the government
33:02
Speaker 2: will shut down, the Democrats will keep it shut down
33:05
Speaker 2: until after the midterm election, and then you're looking at
33:09
Speaker 2: losing 65 seats in the House. It has to be
33:12
Speaker 2: done that way. And by the way, with reconciliation, and
33:15
Speaker 2: I know some people push back on me on this,
33:18
Speaker 2: I believe that there is a creative way to sneak
33:20
Speaker 2: the SAVE Act into the reconciliation. Now, the Byrd Rule
33:24
Speaker 2: makes something like the SAVE Act without any budgetary increases
33:29
Speaker 2: or decreases. You can't do that. However, there was a
33:33
Speaker 2: 2002 law, HAVA, that was passed coming out of the
33:36
Speaker 2: 2001 election down in Florida with Gore and Bush that
33:40
Speaker 2: does give money to the states that is a budgetary item.
33:44
Speaker 2: And I believe that if you put a budget with
33:47
Speaker 2: the SAVE Act, there's a possibility to be creative and
33:50
Speaker 2: included in the reconciliation. And you pass it with 51
33:53
Speaker 2: that way, and you don't have to get 60. Nuke
33:56
Speaker 2: the filibuster, do a standing filibuster, any of those things.
33:59
Speaker 2: So I think it's very important. that the Republicans get
34:02
Speaker 2: all of that done in a reconciliation before September 30th,
34:06
Speaker 2: or we're going to see more of what we're seeing,
34:09
Speaker 2: which is continuing resolutions and more government shutdowns and a
34:13
Speaker 2: huge loss in the midterm. Let's get back to Iran, though.
34:16
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Iran foreign minister. I mentioned him,
34:20
Speaker 2: and I don't know who's in charge. This guy has
34:22
Speaker 2: never been in charge. He almost reminds me of, what
34:25
Speaker 2: was his name, Baghdad Bob? Do you remember him?
34:28
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
34:31
Speaker 2: He was funny. I remember it like it was yesterday,
34:33
Speaker 2: maybe a lot of the people listening do. Baghdad Bob
34:36
Speaker 2: would come on the television on CNN, and he would
34:39
Speaker 2: talk about how great Iraq was doing in the war.
34:42
Speaker 2: And right behind him were bombs falling and blowing up,
34:45
Speaker 2: and the hotel collapsed with him in it. But that's
34:49
Speaker 2: what this Iran foreign minister is like. He was on
34:53
Speaker 2: Meet the Press this weekend, and here is a little
34:56
Speaker 2: bit of that.
34:57
Speaker 5: How do you go back to doing business with countries
34:59
Speaker 5: you're sending drones into and hitting civilian targets?
35:03
Speaker 6: Obviously, these are the countries who have given their soil
35:06
Speaker 6: to American forces to attack us. So what can we do?
35:10
Speaker 6: We just sit and watch that Americans are, American forces
35:13
Speaker 6: are attacking us from their soil.
35:15
Speaker 5: But your drones are going into civilian areas and hitting
35:19
Speaker 5: plants and hotels and civilians.
35:22
Speaker 2: No, no, this is not the fact.
35:24
Speaker 6: We are only targeting American assets, American installations, American military bases.
35:29
Speaker 2: If that is true, then their aim sucks because they
35:33
Speaker 2: are hitting a lot of residential areas, hotels and buildings
35:38
Speaker 2: in you know, in work areas. So maybe their aim
35:43
Speaker 2: sucks or maybe he's just lying. He's a propagandist. What
35:46
Speaker 2: do you think about what he had to say?
35:48
Speaker 3: Is he the one that the CIA is spreading rumors
35:52
Speaker 3: is gay or is that?
35:53
Speaker 2: No, that's the guy that's allegedly in charge with no legs.
35:57
Speaker 3: I just love that our CIA is now doing middle
36:00
Speaker 3: school rumors. I think it's hilarious.
36:03
Speaker 2: A little more noise. I think this is noise. I
36:06
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this over the weekend, but
36:08
Speaker 2: a third aircraft carrier is headed to the area. Did
36:12
Speaker 2: you hear that?
36:13
Speaker 3: I did not, but I believe you.
36:15
Speaker 2: Well, it is true that a third one is, and
36:18
Speaker 2: that feeds this narrative that this thing is escalating. Let
36:22
Speaker 2: me clear this up, too, so that this noise gets
36:25
Speaker 2: dampened down real quick. What happened is the Gerald R. Ford...
36:30
Speaker 2: which was, by the way, $ 13 billion and the largest
36:33
Speaker 2: American aircraft carrier, it had to leave the theater. It
36:37
Speaker 2: is now docked in Crete. They had a very large
36:40
Speaker 2: fire in a laundry room, and the shitters are messed up,
36:45
Speaker 2: which has been a recurring problem over the last five years.
36:48
Speaker 2: They have eco-friendly toilets, and they back up. So it
36:53
Speaker 2: is docked in Crete, and that's why another aircraft carrier
36:56
Speaker 2: is headed that way. But Make your comments about the
36:58
Speaker 2: Iran foreign minister there.
37:00
Speaker 3: It's a shitty situation with the phone. I don't know.
37:03
Speaker 3: But I went for a minute. Sorry, back to that point. Yeah,
37:08
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm surprised Margaret Brennan actually made a good point.
37:11
Speaker 3: I think that's who was talking. It is probably going
37:14
Speaker 3: to be hard for them to do business with their
37:15
Speaker 3: neighbors going through the immediate aftermath of this. I mean, obviously,
37:19
Speaker 3: I know we do business with plenty of countries we've
37:21
Speaker 3: been at war with in the past. But, you know,
37:25
Speaker 3: we've been separated by a lot of time in those cases.
37:27
Speaker 3: It is going to hurt them in the short term.
37:29
Speaker 2: Yep, and the Abraham Accords come into this. That is
37:33
Speaker 2: what really has forged the relationship with Israel and these
37:37
Speaker 2: Arab nations that are really doing nothing. And that's the
37:41
Speaker 2: point I was making earlier, that this is not a
37:43
Speaker 2: regional conflict because these nations aren't flying their planes. They
37:47
Speaker 2: aren't bombing Iran back. They're allowing Israel and America to
37:52
Speaker 2: do all of that. The United Arab Emirates, they've had 1,800
37:55
Speaker 2: attacks on them. from Iran during this. They're not going
38:00
Speaker 2: to do business with the UAE when this is over with,
38:03
Speaker 2: unless there is a regime change, which I think could
38:06
Speaker 2: come later. Here's more of the Iran foreign minister with
38:09
Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan.
38:10
Speaker 5: Iran has declared it has 440 kilos or so of
38:15
Speaker 5: nuclear material. Where is that material now? Who has custody
38:19
Speaker 5: of it?
38:20
Speaker 2: Well, we have not declared.
38:22
Speaker 6: This is verified and declared by the agency.
38:24
Speaker 3: That's right.
38:25
Speaker 2: This is not a secret.
38:26
Speaker 6: The agency has said in its many reports the exact
38:30
Speaker 6: amount of our enriched nuclear material.
38:32
Speaker 5: Yes, so where is it now? Who has custody of it?
38:35
Speaker 2: I like her question.
38:36
Speaker 3: They are under the rubble.
38:37
Speaker 2: I like her questions there. Where is it? And that's
38:40
Speaker 2: the thing that some of these troops may be used for.
38:42
Speaker 2: It's been put out there that maybe there's special forces
38:45
Speaker 2: that will try to go and get that 60% enriched uranium.
38:50
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this other clip, too, Matt,
38:52
Speaker 2: that was on a Sunday show. And this was the
38:55
Speaker 2: International Atomic Energy Association Director General. His name is Rafael Grossi.
39:03
Speaker 2: And he was talking about the fact that Iran's nuclear
39:06
Speaker 2: capability is very sophisticated. But at the same time, these machines,
39:11
Speaker 2: the centrifuges that are used to get enriched uranium from
39:15
Speaker 2: 60% to 90%, is very easily replicated, can be redone.
39:22
Speaker 2: So if we don't get the uranium that they have,
39:25
Speaker 2: then there's a very good chance that in a short
39:27
Speaker 2: amount of time that they can replicate those machines, those centrifuges,
39:32
Speaker 2: and they can produce nuclear weapons at 90% enriched uranium.
39:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously ever the more excuse to justify,
39:41
Speaker 3: rightly justify our involvement there.
39:45
Speaker 2: And that's the point, yeah.
39:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a point. It is funny that I see
39:52
Speaker 3: all these liberal pundits like trying to deny that Iran
39:56
Speaker 3: has nuclear ambitions and all that. And it's it's they're
39:58
Speaker 3: sort of in the denial stage of why we're even
40:01
Speaker 3: there in the first place. So, yeah, I don't think
40:04
Speaker 3: they have really got the memo there.
40:05
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Biden said it. Obama said it.
40:08
Speaker 3: Everyone knows they want it. If they're telling us if
40:11
Speaker 3: the Iranians are ever telling you anything otherwise, it's because
40:14
Speaker 3: they're allowed to lie to us. They're literally less of them.
40:17
Speaker 3: it's for their own benefit.
40:18
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump's the only one that has the balls
40:21
Speaker 2: to do what is being done right now. And I
40:23
Speaker 2: think it's going to be over pretty quickly. One other
40:26
Speaker 2: thing I want to bring up that happened over the
40:28
Speaker 2: weekend was really a successful bombing of Iran at an
40:32
Speaker 2: airbase in Saudi Arabia. And what happened there was they
40:35
Speaker 2: bombed a $ 270 million plane that is used for satellites
40:40
Speaker 2: and reconnaissance. And then they also damaged a couple of
40:44
Speaker 2: KC-135s that are used for refueling. So those planes will
40:48
Speaker 2: have to be replaced because you have to keep them
40:51
Speaker 2: up in the air to keep the jets flying and
40:53
Speaker 2: the warthogs and all the other things that are in
40:55
Speaker 2: the air that continue to just pummel Iran.
41:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually didn't even hear about that. So it
41:02
Speaker 3: is sad. We're not really getting that many great updates
41:06
Speaker 3: on the progress we're making, which I mean, obviously, the
41:09
Speaker 3: liberal media doesn't want to portray it that way because
41:11
Speaker 3: they want to present it in a way that is
41:13
Speaker 3: damaging to Trump. But yes, no, that is very good news.
41:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, what they want to do is create the narrative
41:20
Speaker 2: that to me is noise. You mentioned a PSYOP earlier.
41:24
Speaker 2: To me, every day we get a new PSYOP because
41:27
Speaker 2: we are creating them ourselves. You know, each one of
41:31
Speaker 2: these things every day that blows up on social media,
41:33
Speaker 2: blows up in the news, it becomes another PSYOP. We
41:36
Speaker 2: don't need the CIA to run them on us. We're
41:39
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41:42
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42:33
Speaker 2: And welcome back to The Truth Be Told on a
42:35
Speaker 2: Monday night. Thank you for being here. Matt, birthright citizenship
42:39
Speaker 2: is something that we have talked about over the last year,
42:42
Speaker 2: and it's finally here. It's going to be heard. Oral
42:45
Speaker 2: arguments are going to be heard in the Supreme Court.
42:47
Speaker 2: Some people get confused because there was a hearing about
42:51
Speaker 2: birthright citizenship, but it was a completely different argument at
42:55
Speaker 2: the time. This one is going to get to the
42:58
Speaker 2: real issue. Do people that are born here... And really
43:03
Speaker 2: it has to do with tourism, the whole birthright tourism thing,
43:06
Speaker 2: birth tourism, where people come to this country and then
43:09
Speaker 2: they have a child. That child then has dual citizenship.
43:13
Speaker 2: And a lot of people are abusing that. And it's
43:16
Speaker 2: a whole big business, really, isn't it, Matt?
43:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's birth tourism, which is unfortunately very common, but
43:23
Speaker 3: it's more commonly illegal aliens come here than have a kid.
43:26
Speaker 3: And then, you know, liberals love to say, well, illegals,
43:29
Speaker 3: they can't claim welfare benefits because they're not citizens. And
43:32
Speaker 3: first of all, there are municipalities that do give benefits
43:35
Speaker 3: outright to illegals. Yeah. That's when they're not scamming us.
43:38
Speaker 3: But once they have a kid on U.S. soil, we're
43:42
Speaker 3: spending $ 20, 000 a year, or God knows how much education
43:45
Speaker 3: costs where you live in cities. It's probably way more.
43:47
Speaker 3: So let's just say $ 20, 000 a year to educate that kid, K-12.
43:52
Speaker 3: For some reason, they're going to qualify for some taxpayer-funded
43:55
Speaker 3: minority scholarships if they go to college. um statistically speaking
43:59
Speaker 3: their kids earn the less the national average and disproportionately
44:02
Speaker 3: use welfare so even if illegals cost the taxpayer nothing
44:05
Speaker 3: their kids are a massive expense and of course that
44:08
Speaker 3: was never the goal of the 14th amendment the 14th
44:10
Speaker 3: amendment was one of the reconstruction amendments it was passed
44:14
Speaker 3: in the aftermath of slavery to guarantee that free blacks
44:17
Speaker 3: had the same rights as americans and one of them
44:19
Speaker 3: was to guarantee it so their children would automatically be
44:22
Speaker 3: citizens now the reason we know the founder um that
44:26
Speaker 3: it was not passed, you know, to be interpreted the
44:31
Speaker 3: way it is now, is that we had to clarify
44:34
Speaker 3: that Native Americans were citizens in 1924. So that's in
44:40
Speaker 3: the century after the 14th Amendment. So if the 14th
44:44
Speaker 3: Amendment just meant you being born here means you're a citizen, well,
44:49
Speaker 3: there would have been no need to do that with
44:51
Speaker 3: Native Americans. So I don't believe it was ever intended
44:53
Speaker 3: to be interpreted to just mean being born here makes
44:57
Speaker 3: you a citizen. Not a single country in all of
45:01
Speaker 3: Europe offers citizenship the way we do in America. So
45:04
Speaker 3: it is a very uniquely American thing, and it's a
45:07
Speaker 3: very costly thing. I was trying to compute the other day, like,
45:11
Speaker 3: what is the cost of birthright citizenship? The numbers I
45:16
Speaker 3: found were that something like 8% of all births in
45:19
Speaker 3: America are for illegal aliens or to illegal aliens. And
45:22
Speaker 3: that number was in 2010, a study then. So the
45:26
Speaker 3: number has to be higher in the Biden years. We're
45:28
Speaker 3: taking like 2 million illegals a year, as opposed to
45:31
Speaker 3: when it maybe had 10 or 15 million in the
45:33
Speaker 3: country back in 2010. But if you were to assume
45:36
Speaker 3: that 2% of all Americans are the children of illegal aliens.
45:43
Speaker 3: The numbers I found, and I was trying to compute
45:46
Speaker 3: what is the Average income of someone who might fall
45:50
Speaker 3: in that category and how much welfare would they be
45:52
Speaker 3: eligible for? I had a wide range of numbers. It's
45:57
Speaker 3: sort of impossible to know. But if they're 2% of
46:01
Speaker 3: the population, it's a $ 4 trillion annual lifetime cost if
46:06
Speaker 3: the average kid of an illegal lives to 80 years old.
46:09
Speaker 3: That was the number I came up with. If it's
46:11
Speaker 3: 1% of the population, it's $ 2 trillion over their lifetime.
46:14
Speaker 3: So it's a truly enormous amount of money that we
46:19
Speaker 3: are spending on their kids. And they are net drainers
46:23
Speaker 3: of the— they' re not net taxpayers. They're taking far more out
46:27
Speaker 3: of the system than they're putting in.
46:29
Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has decided on birthright citizenship a few times.
46:34
Speaker 2: in history. And I think we'll probably hear those arguments
46:37
Speaker 2: from the left, from the Democrats. This has to do
46:40
Speaker 2: with an executive order that Donald Trump signed as soon
46:43
Speaker 2: as he came into office, trying to shut down this
46:46
Speaker 2: birth tourism. And what happens is they become the anchor babies.
46:51
Speaker 2: And then the Democrats, they want to create amnesty to
46:54
Speaker 2: allow the parents and the child to become citizens, fast
46:57
Speaker 2: track them to become citizens. or maybe they just let
47:00
Speaker 2: them become citizens without knowing anything about the country. It
47:03
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me that that's ultimately what they want to do.
47:06
Speaker 2: I know that one of the cases that the Supreme
47:08
Speaker 2: Court decided on was in 1897, which would have been
47:11
Speaker 2: about 60 or 70 years after the 14th Amendment, or
47:15
Speaker 2: I guess it would have been about 30 years after.
47:17
Speaker 2: So that decision came after the 14th Amendment, and this
47:21
Speaker 2: had to do with a Chinese man that was born
47:24
Speaker 2: in America. And he went back to China to see
47:27
Speaker 2: his grandparents. And he was like 20, 21 years old.
47:31
Speaker 2: When he came back into the country, he was not
47:33
Speaker 2: allowed in. And they had to go through the process,
47:36
Speaker 2: the legal process. And the Supreme Court ultimately decided that
47:40
Speaker 2: he is an American citizen because he was born here.
47:42
Speaker 2: And I think that we will probably hear some of
47:44
Speaker 2: that coming up in this oral argument this week. It's
47:47
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to listen to. And let's move
47:50
Speaker 2: into CPAC. CPAC was over the weekend. I don't know
47:54
Speaker 2: if anybody noticed. I think CPAC is on its last legs.
47:58
Speaker 2: It's going to go the way of the National Tea Party,
48:01
Speaker 2: I believe.
48:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be the event you had to
48:06
Speaker 3: be at. It was completely packed when I would go
48:09
Speaker 3: back in college, and it was... I thought it was
48:12
Speaker 3: $ 300- plus a ticket just for standard admission at that point.
48:16
Speaker 3: I was a student at the time, so I think
48:18
Speaker 3: it was less than $ 100 if you were a student.
48:20
Speaker 3: It was like you're out like $ 1, 000 or $ 2, 000 to
48:23
Speaker 3: go to CFAC back in the day. When I looked,
48:27
Speaker 3: I think last year, it was like $ 100 for standard
48:29
Speaker 3: or it might have even been less. I assume it
48:32
Speaker 3: was probably in the same ballpark this year because there
48:35
Speaker 3: was just no one there. No one was posting about it.
48:39
Speaker 3: The only viral clips I saw were like one clip
48:44
Speaker 3: where someone was saying, I think Matt Schlapp was up
48:46
Speaker 3: there saying like, you know, Democrats take back power. We're
48:49
Speaker 3: going to see nonstop impeachment. Who wants to see more impeachments?
48:52
Speaker 3: And I think the audience misunderstood what he was saying
48:55
Speaker 3: and feared on impeachment. I mean, they obviously misunderstood what
48:59
Speaker 3: he was saying.
49:02
Speaker 2: I think that they thought that he was talking about
49:04
Speaker 2: impeaching the judges. That's the way I took it.
49:07
Speaker 3: That would make way more sense. There was no real,
49:11
Speaker 3: I think Trump skipped it. So he clearly realized that
49:15
Speaker 3: as well. And, you know, Matt Schlapp, um, It is
49:20
Speaker 3: Matt Schwab's.
49:21
Speaker 2: The one writing it, right? That's correct, yes.
49:23
Speaker 3: I don't know. He welcomed in people like Van Jones
49:27
Speaker 3: to speak in prior years. I actually wrote up a
49:31
Speaker 3: very long article a few years ago about various groups
49:34
Speaker 3: that were funding CPAC that were Soros-linked groups that were
49:38
Speaker 3: trying to pitch criminal justice reform to Republicans and sort
49:42
Speaker 3: of present it as a right-wing movement. You know, code
49:45
Speaker 3: it in right-wing language and all that to try to
49:48
Speaker 3: make Republicans more supportive of it. I still have it
49:51
Speaker 3: saved on my computer if you want to read it.
49:52
Speaker 2: I would love it. Send it to me. Yeah, I'll
49:54
Speaker 2: send it over.
49:55
Speaker 3: But like groups where it's like, how is this even possible?
49:58
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know. I'm just very skeptical of
50:00
Speaker 3: Match Lab. I need to reread my articles. I need
50:02
Speaker 3: to know more substantive and why. It was like three
50:05
Speaker 3: or four years ago I wrote it. But yeah, he's
50:07
Speaker 3: run that organization to the ground. And it is sad
50:10
Speaker 3: to see. It used to be such a huge event.
50:12
Speaker 3: It was quite a lot of fun when I used
50:14
Speaker 3: to go.
50:14
Speaker 2: One thing that they do every year at CPAC is
50:17
Speaker 2: they have a straw poll for the next presidential election,
50:20
Speaker 2: and they did that again this weekend. I found it
50:23
Speaker 2: very interesting, regardless of how many people were there, because
50:25
Speaker 2: there were empty seats on the videos that I saw.
50:28
Speaker 2: that Marco Rubio picked up 32 points from last year
50:34
Speaker 2: in the straw poll for the presidential election in 2028.
50:37
Speaker 2: He was at 3% last year.
50:37
Speaker 3: J.D.
50:37
Speaker 2: Vance was 63%, 64%. This time it was 51% J.D.
50:39
Speaker 1: Vance.
50:46
Speaker 2: And 35% for Marco Rubio. He has a lot of
50:50
Speaker 2: momentum right now, and I think J.D. Vance is maybe
50:54
Speaker 2: a little bit in the background. Marco Rubio is out front.
50:57
Speaker 2: He's very articulate. I think he would be a good candidate,
51:00
Speaker 2: but I'm glad to see that CPAC recognizes that in
51:04
Speaker 2: him because I would love to see an actual primary
51:07
Speaker 2: in and not just give the crown to J.D. Vance
51:10
Speaker 2: and say he's the next. Let's see who's out there
51:13
Speaker 2: and who may be the person that has the right
51:15
Speaker 2: solutions for the country and for the Republican side.
51:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. I agree on the primary. It will
51:22
Speaker 3: be sad, though, to see them all fighting, like J.D.
51:24
Speaker 3: Vance and Marco. You know, maybe they will. I mean,
51:27
Speaker 3: they'll probably be more respectful. It is funny, though. For
51:31
Speaker 3: some reason, the YouTube algorithm a few weeks or months
51:34
Speaker 3: ago suggested to me highlights from 2015 and 2016 of
51:39
Speaker 3: Trump and Rubio on the debate stage and how completely
51:42
Speaker 3: brutal that is. And it just is hilarious how things
51:45
Speaker 3: change over time in politics. I hope the relationship between
51:49
Speaker 3: Marco and J.D. Vance, even if they do compete, is
51:51
Speaker 3: still amicable and all that. But I think I lean J.D.
51:56
Speaker 6: Vance.
51:56
Speaker 3: But I do like them both.
51:58
Speaker 2: Well, I like Rubio. I think he would be an
52:00
Speaker 2: excellent selection.
52:02
Speaker 3: I like them both.
52:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I don't have anything against J.D. Vance,
52:06
Speaker 2: but you put Sarah Huckabee Sanders on a ticket with
52:09
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio. That would be tough to compete against if
52:11
Speaker 2: you're a Democrat. You have someone with a Hispanic background,
52:14
Speaker 2: speaks fluid Spanish. And then you have a female who
52:18
Speaker 2: has been the governor of the state of Arkansas now
52:22
Speaker 2: for six years. So I think there are a lot
52:24
Speaker 2: of names that we could consider for 28 before we
52:27
Speaker 2: just jump on the J.D. Vance bandwagon. By the way,
52:31
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Chairman Xi will meet. It's been announced
52:35
Speaker 2: and the meeting is in concrete now. May 14th and 15th,
52:39
Speaker 2: the First Lady and Donald Trump will travel to China.
52:42
Speaker 2: That meeting originally was supposed to happen in March, but
52:45
Speaker 2: it did not happen. But now it is happening. And
52:48
Speaker 2: then Xi and his First Lady, I don't know what
52:51
Speaker 2: they call them in China, but they are coming later.
52:54
Speaker 2: That date has not been set. So Don't forget about
52:56
Speaker 2: China in the middle of all of this that's going
52:59
Speaker 2: on in this world. And Matt, we're at the end
53:02
Speaker 2: of our hour. I've enjoyed it. Thank you so much
53:04
Speaker 2: for always coming in on a Monday night and doing
53:07
Speaker 2: Mondays with Matt. What do we look forward to this
53:09
Speaker 2: week other than the oral arguments for birthright citizenship?
53:14
Speaker 3: Basically everything we just spent the past day talking about.
53:16
Speaker 2: Just more of it.
53:17
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a month of us
53:19
Speaker 3: talking about the same topics.
53:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will be, too.
53:22
Speaker 3: But I think the birthright citizenship will probably be most
53:26
Speaker 3: of what we talk about next week. And God, I
53:29
Speaker 3: hope it goes favorably. Yeah.
53:31
Speaker 2: And then there are some things cooking in a grand
53:33
Speaker 2: jury in South Florida with Jack Smith, Brennan, Clapper.
53:38
Speaker 7: Great.
53:39
Speaker 2: We'll have to keep an eye on that, too. Maybe
53:41
Speaker 2: some news comes out from Tulsi Gabbard in the DNI
53:45
Speaker 2: because there's some news to come. We'll just wait and see. Matt,
53:49
Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it.
53:51
Speaker 3: My pleasure.
53:52
Speaker 2: And don't forget that you were told 2,000 years ago
53:54
Speaker 2: that you are the salt of the earth. And salt
53:57
Speaker 2: without flavor, it has no value. So whatever you do,
54:00
Speaker 2: keep being salty. Have a great night.
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