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2. Why Making Friends As An Adult Feels Impossible - with The Party Scientist · Besties In Your Back Pocket

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Besties in Your Back Pocket.
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  SPEAKER_04: This is Angela.
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  SPEAKER_04: I am a trauma-informed comedian.
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  SPEAKER_04: And Amy's about it.
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  SPEAKER_05: If you ever felt like you were playing small, shrinking yourself, or just going through the motions, waiting for your real life to begin, you just show people.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the show where we don't go surface level, we go deep.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_05: The conversations that make you laugh, cry, think a little, and maybe make one tiny brave decision that changes everything.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_05: I'm Amy.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm Angela.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're your besties in your back pocket.
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  SPEAKER_05: Always honest, always in your corner, and always ready to help you unlock that version of you that creates more.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_05: Because here's what we know when you learn to express yourself authentically, fully, joyfully, confidently, everything else starts to shift.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_05: We're really glad you're freaking here.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_05: You ready, baby?
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_05: Lego.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_05: Ladies and gentlemen, we have our very first ever guest here on Besties in Your Back Pocket.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_05: It's an absolute legend.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_05: An absolute treat.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_05: He's wearing a brand new lab coat here for us, even today.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_05: It's my freaking Canadian Joy Doppelganger.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: You guys have been waiting for it.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: I just like introduce myself to people.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh yeah, like, do you know Amy Dickens?
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I'm just like the male version of her.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even mention the party scientist now.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: I just like mention Amy.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_05: They're like, oh yeah.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_05: Dude, one day I bet we could really introduce ourselves like that, and people might know what we mean.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll all be on a stage together eventually.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: At a festival we produce, or not.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_04: So can this be playing uh Tony Robbins event of the world?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_04: And this moment gets put up of us talking and how much younger we look as in Shrugged.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it'll take that long.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what my parents say.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, my mom, my mom and sister are like, they and they use this tone of voice.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, when you're like 50, will you still be doing this?
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I'm damn right I will be.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um but it's it's it's unfortunate.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, one thing that brings us together as a trio is our desire to make adult life lighter and more playful and more alive, right?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, pretty much for the last two weeks, I have been having um circular conversations with uh with AI about what it means to be a joymaker and how it raises our social influence.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but what I'm like learning is I'm I'm like learning how to communicate the frustration that I have with the deprivation of like energy and joy and and laughter um in our culture, in modern social culture.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I think that's one thing that that brings us together.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_05: Good.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, aliveness.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_05: That's like been the word of the hour for some reason.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_05: And by hour I mean just the season of life.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_05: Like I realize that's actually a thread that pulls all of my friends together.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_05: Like we're all doing different things, but we're all very focused on our own different angle of how do we reconnect people to their aliveness?
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_05: And I feel like we've all our trio very much has a that already in sync.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, let's ignite aliveness in people and figure out what angle we can take on that.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_04: Do you do you guys feel like you've always been in the aliveness, or did you have a moment where you were like, oh gosh, I need to like create a different life for myself?
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_04: And then it got you into the aliveness.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, ever since I quit like alcohol and drugs, like my aliveness just vanished.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was the worst decision of my life.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm just so dead inside now.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Angela, this is such a beautiful question, right?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Nurture versus nature.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, one thing Amy and I are super, and I'm sure you are as well, is it's so empowering to believe that we choose our personality.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: We choose our community that we create, we choose um our vitality, right?
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I really believe that it's all driven by choice.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: And the single greatest practice that I attribute my aliveness to, and the fact that people always ask me what drug I'm on, is I journal and reflect every day about the progress I'm making as a joymaker.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that practice helps me uh become incrementally better, like 1% more alive and more excited, even excited by the anger and like the upsetness and some of the ugly parts of human nature, right?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how can we cultivate excitement and like learnability from all aspects of human nature versus just like toxic positivity, right?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for sharing that.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, actually, I was asking Amy about your boot camps and the different retreats you've hosted, and she said one of the most pivotal parts was the third-person journal prompt.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_04: I taught it to her.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_04: Dude, I tried it out, it has rewired me.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_04: I saw the first hand and she was like, what the heck, man?
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_04: This is crazy.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because after like the fourth day, I'm like, Angela's still doing that?
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Loki also want to flip this on Angela.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_05: Angela, I guess you were asking about sobriety.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_05: Tell him what you told me the other day.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know what I'm talking about?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: About the different visions I saw?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_05: About what you said about sobriety and leaving um our joymaker reunion a few months ago.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: Gosh dang it.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_04: Can you reiterate?
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is the flow, baby.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't know, but if you start rolling, maybe it'll go back.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_05: You were telling me that you spent, we were all in Phoenix together for the listeners.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_05: We had like what, like, okay, now you know.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's all you had to say.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, how this podcast is even coming afloat is that Amy and Jacques, I know Amy attended some of Jacques's things, and they naturally had um the same exact mission and career.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_04: So now they're collaborating as people would when they realize that.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: And um, yeah, I really was inspired by Jacques.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_04: I found him online and was like, wait, there's others out there, and they know how to market and brand it well.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_04: And so then I found my way up to their Phoenix reunion retreat.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_04: And after being around everyone, one thing was that there were standards to the time together, right?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_04: So there was a standard of being sober, of not eating, you know, too much junk food.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_04: There was even a moment where I said, man, I'm starting to crave the chocolate.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_04: And Jacques was like, let's do a hug instead.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_04: And immediately the same hit that chocolate gives me.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_04: Insanity.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I told Amy that I just I learned so much of those little things throughout our time in Phoenix together that I um I had been smoking for around 10 years, pretty much every day.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and after Phoenix, I just didn't want to anymore.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_04: There wasn't this huge moment.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_04: It was just being around everyone in such a higher state where I was like, what am I doing?
• 8:37
  unknown: Wow.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hearing that, Angela, I'm surprised how sane you were at the reunion.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, that's a that's huge.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I know people.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, actually, I just came back from Portland where I was visiting a joymaker, and he was like, I'm I don't think I I'm not putting the words in your mouth that you were addicted to smoking, but he was like addicted to cocaine, and he shared his whole story of overcoming that addiction.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I haven't struggled with that.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've struggled with other forms of addiction, but I think that is one of the most difficult challenges of being human is resisting all the quick fixes and all the external regulators.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's self-regulation and then there's like external regulation.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just so hard as a human to regulate ourselves and generate our own joy when there's all these temptations around.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, like that's incredible.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I will use this recording to um invite people like you to my program.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_04: Just share four cents, four cents of sale, okay?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, but but like let's testimonial.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Let let's zoom in on that.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Let's zoom in on that.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like you you you felt like full or you made the intentional decision, like I'm just gonna quit.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like what what did you feel?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how did you do that?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like for people listening who have been doing something for 10 years, like you gotta tell us, you know.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, I love the way you're framing that.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: And I personally feel so happy hearing that you were surprised by that because you guys will continue spending time with me and getting to know me.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_04: Like I was lethargic at our thing.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_04: So that's what I look like lethargic.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, the first day I was like um spitting up mucus, and my body was like, wow, you're not smoking.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: And so I felt that a lot.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_04: And I was, you know, in some sadness and just being around a bunch of adults that wanted to thrive in pure joy over and over again.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_04: It just recalibrated me effortlessly.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm I definitely believe that environment dictates so much of our frequency and our energy levels and our choices.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like our environment is part of our diet, what we're taking in.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_04: So I was just lucky to have made the leap, got the plane ticket to Phoenix and like immerse myself in that and see that it's possible to feel like that.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_05: That's wild.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, wait.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_05: What has surprised you like most?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_05: Or what do you because you're like, okay, what is this two months out almost from that experience of like that shift?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_05: Where are you feeling the changes most in your, you know, you've lived day-to-day life now?
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I feel my feelings more and a lot of that is grief that got stuck or stored because I was, you know, using a binky, which I call the smoking.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, I realized when I felt feelings I didn't know how to let out yet, um, I would take a hit.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_04: And now when I feel them, I ask friends for help on how to like get through the feeling, and then it goes away in like 30 seconds.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: I like I love this.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you resort, you you tap into your friendships, and I I think having these friendships where we can get a little bit more personal help from I I think that that's like the concept of the social bank account, right?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like when we're wealthy in those relationships, and like when we hit a lull or we make a big mistake, and those people are there to lift us back up and like convince us that we still have worth, that is what can make us better leaders, risk takers, brighter joymakers.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that you tap into that.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_04: And it seems like that's probably one of your biggest pillars for everything that you're cultivating.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_04: Like you have a joymaker community.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I do.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's growing.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we just launched the board.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, the the larger, the larger purpose is like how can we invent a new way of doing good in the world, like a new version of philanthropy where instead of like offering money or like um doing like service work, we actually start to regard joy as valuable and as a like an antidepressant and something that is integral to people's thriving, right?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm very lucky in Vancouver that I have some core, like hardcore joymakers, and they come out with me and like, you know, we for the last two weeks my voice has been trashed because I've been screaming at like crowds of thousands of people giving out maple syrup shots and um converting like giving out maple syrup shots, helping people crowd surf, and um helping teenagers experience what it means to be alive.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: I love you said I'm helping people crowd surf.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's just a really hilarious sentence.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_05: Okay out of context.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like so, okay, like you know, like when I'm actually leading an event, I'm very conscious of physical risks, and I but like when I'm just having fun, like there's sometimes like I kind of ditch the risk.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: So um, pardon me, I I don't evaluate risk as well.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so we were in the middle of like a giant crowd of Colombians because like the the Columbia game was in Vancouver and it's Tuesday night.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's Tuesday night.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: I just get off the plane and I go straight downtown, and we're in this crowd of Colombians, and like these, and what's interesting is there's a there's a bunch of teenagers out, and you never you never really see teenagers, like they're kind of hidden, you know, but like they're like expressing themselves and like hugging, and it's awesome.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so I got a bunch of them and we started doing this like um cheerleading exercise where we like throw people in the air, and uh, so we're like tossing people in the air, like a couple stories, like a story high.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And um, everyone's lined up and like, yeah, I want to go next.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I wanna go next.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And we throw this one kid like so high in the air, and he starts to like flail in the air and kicks me right in the face.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't break my nose.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was good fun.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, for the listeners, like you gotta look at his social media, which which ones is all these posted on because this it literally looks kind of like something fake almost that somebody made like out in a movie with like a bunch of extras.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's the most epic thing of all time.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_05: Like you are an absolute legend.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: You got off a freaking plane and used your free will to go to a crowd of people immediately to spread and ignite joy and like kind of be a facilitator among random bunch of strangers.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_05: Like, talk about incredible, impeccable use of free will.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: And like, yeah, I I love that.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to go back to what Angela said.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I have this crew, I have a crew of people who instead of going to a private party, they would rather go out into public and light people up and ignite courage in people.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that's like I'm so lucky that I have people who understand that life becomes more rewarding when you make it about other people and you witness people come alive and you like give, give to people emotionally and directly.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so that to me, you know, that that's what I'm about.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I have people who like really celebrate that in me, right?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_05: Good.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it makes all the difference to be able to have people by your side doing that.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, because you can do it alone, and that's totally amazing and fun and you know, fulfills your cup.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_05: But to have homies next to you when you're doing something like kind of vulnerable where you're like, oh, I'm putting myself out there, it makes it I don't know, in my opinion, like 10,000 times as enjoyable.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I feel like it takes it takes a devotion and a consistency to show up like that in order to even have a crew or find those like-minded people to start doing this to bigger places and impacting more people at once.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: And the other layer of this, and you also talked about this, Angela, is like I want to become incrementally more courageous and also joyful and like vitality as well.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so so I'm really into like longevity protocols and VO2 max training, and like what is the what is the pathway to get the most out of my biology so that I can just like ignite people wherever I go.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um but the other factor here is life sucks sometimes, you know, like as Buddhism uh tells us, suffering is inevitable, you know, and that's like the Buddhist philosophy.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: We're all born with an ego that causes a lot of suffering.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: And what I want to talk about is, you know, there's this bouncing back process, right?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like life will hit us with a mistake, will say something we didn't want to say, will make someone uncomfortable, we'll weird someone out, we'll flop, we'll, we'll, we'll tarnish our reputation.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've done all these things countless times.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that social bank account and that positive peer pod, they can help you bounce back even more rapidly.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think it's about, I don't think it's about never having lulls in your joy baseline.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's much more about how quickly you are resilient to inevitable struggles, inevitable insults.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: And like we're imperfect and we're I'm fragile.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a fragile human.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm less and less fragile, but like still, you know, like yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: So that's another kind of benefit of this crew that I that you cultivate, that we can all cultivate, right?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_04: So if I'm hearing that, um, what I would say back is that part of showing up in that way has to do with your physical and mental health.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_05: Vitality is like the foundation, you know, like if you don't have your health.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_05: What's that quote?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: It's like it person a healthy person has a million dreams and a person without their health only has one or something like that, you know, because it's like, oh, I just want to feel like good in my body again.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_05: That's like almost like all we're programmed to do at that point.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_05: And then once you have your baseline of health, it's not something that's like taking up brain space anymore.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: You're able to use your creative energy and all of these resources and other kinds of ways.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_05: And you've like freaking mastered that.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_05: Something I'm curious about, because I'm like, okay, you have cultivated this amazing pure pod.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm assuming that at some point you didn't have this.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_05: And there's a million and one ways to go about creating this, but I'm sure there are countless people listening to this right now going, okay, yeah, like Sunshine and Rainbows crew.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_05: How do I get that?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_05: How do I create that?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe I don't already have that right now.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I want to um answer your question, but I just want to share uh an experience I had recently about the quote you shared.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been, I had my first experience in the Hospice environment recently.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: My grandma was in the hospice, and I saw her body just go downhill, and she lost her ability to walk.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: And um, she was she was still mentally present and still capable of cheerfulness.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And like I was in that room dancing and asking her to tell us stories and sharing stories and like really main like really focusing on the connection I had with her, but it just reminded me of how like movement is so human.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Movement is so human, and I just would really struggle mentally if I could not move.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so I like my grandma, she wanted to die because and I would attribute that because she couldn't walk anymore, she couldn't like be independent.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, all of us, we love to dance, we love to flail, we love to frolic.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: And when you invest in your body, the joy that you can get out of movement, out of frolicking, uh, it just keeps getting higher, right?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but ultimately, to your question, but I'll just pause.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have anything to add to that?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I definitely can like say that I have like a really personal connection to that because I spent like a decade with so many different health problems, and like every doctor's like, I don't really know.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_05: Your blood tests are freaking normal.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, I don't feel good.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: This isn't helpful.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and now feeling like I have so much health and vitality, it feels like A, I'm so appreciative of it.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_05: Like every day it feels like a miracle to have my health and not spend all these resources just trying to get to a baseline functioning.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_05: And I realized, wow, I can create so much more impact in the world.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: And it just like feels amazing to just be able to move my body and dance through the streets and get, you know, crowds of people hyped up too.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: And like kind of my service can exist on a new level because I have that vitality, and not that that's like the way it needs to be for everyone else listening, you know, and like we all have our own thing, but wow, it's it's magic when you can find that.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just want to add to that.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: So what is like the opposite of movement?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: What is the opposite of participation?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Stagnation.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's yes, yes, it's like lack of lack of growth, right?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Your your body won't grow, like your muscles won't grow.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: But really, what it is is is passive consumption.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like to be a passive consumer in this world, like, is the opposite of movement and initiation.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: And like I think we're being trained through media, through advertising, through, through just mainly like the compulsive addictive nature of media.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I'm I'm gonna throw rocks at movies, I'm gonna throw rocks at social media.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, these are highly addictive.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like they they just take our attention and we just get sucked in.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: And what do we do?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: We sit and watch.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: And if anyone's listening to this and they want like to create opportunities for themselves and they want to develop social influence and they want to be remembered, then you gotta move more.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta initiate and you gotta take risks and and and make them super small at first.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I just wanted to draw that parallel because what I experience at most events in most social interactions is people on autopilot and and they're kind of in this passive consumer.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're waiting for permission, they're waiting for someone to do something fun, they're waiting for someone to just like stir something up and make the room come alive.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Joymakers, that's what we do.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: We notice the absence of that, and we we have the competency to actually elevate, elevate these human experiences, right?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And like that's what I'm trying to do is like every single one of us is capable, is capable of like elevating the people around us.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's just that we don't have skills.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't have to be charismatic, you don't have to be attractive.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: You like all you got to do is you need to develop these skills.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: You need to develop these social skills, you need to develop leader, the leadership skills, and then you can get dropped into any social environment and you can take baby steps to elevate the people in that environment.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me is gonna be the most valuable skill as AI becomes mainstream and huge.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: And as people get more and more addicted to screens and they spend more time on screens, I'm just gonna keep ranting, y'all.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is that okay?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Are we good with this?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, they're gonna spend more time on screens, and so there's gonna be less socially intelligent people out there.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so if we want to distinguish ourselves and we want to open doors for ourselves, what do we do?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: We learn how to make people come alive.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: We learn how to ignite people's courage, the joy locked inside.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that is what joymaking is about.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I see in both you, Amy, and Angela is you're you're stepping up, you're speaking up, you're taking the stage, you're developing yourself, you're expanding yourself, right?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like Amy and I, we nerd out about Tony Robbins all the time.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: And like that guy, he he's about tapping into that energy, that power, and taking massive social action.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the opposite of massive social action is passive social culture.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we've been conditioned to just be in that because of addictive media and these quick fixes, substances, foods um, that just keep us like in pleasure, right?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: All right, that's that's that's that's it.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: Any disagreements?
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_05: We just had our first soapbox moment.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_05: That was dude.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_05: I know it's totally though.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, the passive consumption is it's I don't even know.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_05: It's like beyond addictive almost at this point.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like a revolutionary act to be human almost and to be in your creative mode and to step.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you have taught me so much, I think, in terms of being a joymaker.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like I was doing it before we met, but realizing like how much people really need you to almost be like, take my hand and like lead me into this thing.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_05: I think I was very much waiting for people to step forward and like standing there being me and giving the invitation.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_05: But people need, I think, that live, they're they're so cautious.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_05: They're so cautious and terrified to, but like they really want to, and you can see that of oh, I want to, I want this, but I'm so scared of being rejected or whatever their stories are coming up.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_05: This is so outside of my comfort zone.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_05: And there's, yeah, I don't know, there's such a skillfulness.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's really a skill.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's literally a learnable skill.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_05: It's not something that any of us here were born with of, oh, I just popped out of the boom and I know how to like get people like happy and dancing and like connecting with each other and talking.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_05: And it's something that I think we've all learned through trial and error, and you know, being kind of obsessed with it, quite frankly, and just being like, oh, how can I figure out how to do this better next time?
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I would add to that, um, you know, the permission that everyone gives one another, that's called proximity power.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, how other people act can be quite contagious.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, when you're around people that all want to feel better and spread that joy, you're just going to absorb that and have that permission subconsciously as well.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love that word, proximity power.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: It just reminds me of, well, it reminds me of const like countless events where we reached a critical mass and suddenly I felt so different.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like I you reach a specific number of people and you no longer need to uh lead activities or games because like the energy is just so high, it's just so contagious.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: And um, of course, there's so many other layers to this, right?
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: If we uh I'll give you um, yeah, just just if we want to get inspired, if we want to grow, having those constant reminders from our friends in their behaviors, just there's just so many layers to the power of proximity.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized recently I lived in an entrepreneur village in uh outside of Singapore for a month.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: And wow, proximity to my friends had a dramatic impact on my happiness.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think proximity to your PPP, your positive peer pod, I think that is the game changer for my happiness.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_05: No, absolutely.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I just have a friend staying with me this week, and I'm like, wow, there's just one extra person in the house.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_05: Like, three is like like everything just feels like, I don't know, instantly uplifting and connective.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_05: And for some reason, having three versus two people in the house is like, this is suddenly a village, and and everything becomes I mean, because we're all also like happy joymaking kind of people, we're not just like, oh, what are you gonna watch on TV tonight?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_05: Or like, let's just scroll all night, you know, we're like, oh, let's make this a moment.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_05: Let's talk.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_05: Let's work out together this morning.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_05: Like eating like my breakfast this morning, and they're both just like wow, that's actually I wasn't expecting that.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: But it really instant impact.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I love this, and two quick things come to mind.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the first thing is the concept of dynamite versus uh candle.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: And this is part, this is part of like my philosophy in life.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: And when I'm in my home, I am like deeply restful.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like slow, I'm quiet.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I go out into the streets, I am dynamite.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: I give it all I have.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I sweat out a leader.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like my body is like BPMs are up.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like I am freaking engaged with life.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I come home, no music in the background, very low lights, like this, you know, red light here on my face right now.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: You can kind of see it.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: And also, my social interactions are very different, like they're much slower, gentler, and like um calmer.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I think a lot of people are stuck in this pattern of like this slow drip excitement, and they're not allowing themselves to fully rest and like sleep like an athlete.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're never actually reaching those peaks that their body's capable of because we're just slowly uh constantly stimulating ourselves.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: And if you ever go to vipassana, you realize like with less stimulation, your brain transforms.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like you notice so much more.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: And and I think it's so powerful to have to master both forms of social connection, right?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like this high energy, joy-making, engagement, like energy.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then also this like very slow, gentle, like intimate, quiet part of connection that can that can like energize us in a different way, but be less like energetically demanding in terms of like how much movement you're doing, how loud your voice is.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_05: I'm so glad you bring this up because people assume like they see me in dynamite mode all the time.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_05: Like what and because I'm outside in dynamite mode energy aiming.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's like my intention.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_05: And just also I get ignited being like in a group of people.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, whoa, like something in me just oops, and I can't kind of stop the flow of it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_05: People are like, whoa, you're just must be like this all the time.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_05: You must just like, what are you on draw?
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, no, I am also really slow and quiet, and like people just aren't really around when I'm in that kind of mode as much, unless they're really close to me for the most part.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and I think that that's a good thing to highlight, maybe as a joymaker kind of person, because I think people probably assume that we're all just cracked out all the time.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: Angela, are you with us still?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_05: I hear you guys.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_05: I'm totally horizontal or not horizontal, like pause on my Hey, we see Angela! Yay! Was I gone for a sec?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_05: You were frozen for a long time, so I wasn't really sure if you were still with us.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_04: Dude, it's been lagging this whole time.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, well, this is a chance to just really play on energy.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but we hear your voice clearly.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not there.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's research.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is crazy, y'all.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's research that empathy goes up when you're not on a video call, when you're just on a phone call.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so super interesting.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I read I read about this in like a study about digital communication.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_05: That's really interesting.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I I'm gonna say hot take.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_05: I prefer phone call versus video call most of the time.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_05: There's some people that I like the phone video, but most people are like, no, I should do a phone call.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_04: That's so interesting because you would think, like, you know, I miss when my computer wasn't lagging because I got to see your reactions in real time and feel so connected through that.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_04: But now I'm like needing to use some extra effort to play off the energy and the reactions you guys are making noises of.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: Aho.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: I have a question for all of us, and maybe we can do a round table.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I would love to hear us attempt to encapsulate like the most important lesson that has expanded our impact in the world.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um and like, yeah, I we all have our different versions of impact, um, but I would love to jam on that.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you heard about my third-person journaling protocol.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I don't know if that is my answer yet because I have to think.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 37:58
  unknown: Oh my god.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I have my answer.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: I would say um within my life, there has been um instances of suicide.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and some of them I was basically directly one or zero degrees correlated with, and it affected me deeply um in the space of grief.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_04: And I found that being able to find the cosmic giggle is what I would call it, but like the humor, the irony, or just the lightheartedness of how you can translate experiences, especially when you story share them, because I believe sharing is um a very impactful thing to do with emotions as a human.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I would say that the comedic flair to things has totally alchemized the way it sits in your body and transmutes to others.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like so excited about your philosophy, Angela, because I have a mindset that I teach in my Joymaker protocol, and it's called the humorist.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: And the humorist, like we all have a humorist inside of us, and that humorist finds the humor in human nature.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and you know, it's not always easy to be a humorist because some people get offended, of course, but to apply this mindset and really look at ourselves and look at other people and just like laugh a little bit.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like, what did I do?
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I sometimes um uh growl.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: I sometimes growl when I'm like frustrated, and like I'm like sitting on my computer and I'm like, oh, I'm not done this yet.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then I like notice it and I just laugh my ass off.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh my god, like this frustration, like God, I am I don't have to worry about this.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't believe I just growls.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll like find the humor in my own imperfections and own um emotionality and irrationality.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: And these things are just deeply human.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that is like awesome.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to build off of it because um you spoke about uh like grief and sharing stories with other people as a form of processing, right?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, and like I think what people assume my answer would be would be like, oh, like Jacques, you know, he's a great public speaker, and like he has charisma and he like unlocks joy in hundreds of in big crowds on trains and buses and like on top of mountains.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: But to me, the most powerful act of joymaking is actually in our conversations, and I think I think the ultimate skill to um elevate our conversations and elevate our relationships is listening.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_00: And and why the more we listen, the more we learn, the more we listen, the more interesting people feel when they're in our presence.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: The more we listen, the better questions we can ask.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: And the more we listen, the more we discover all the amazing parts of people around us.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and that is the mindset that I want to be in.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be walking down the street and just like so happy and excited to have people around and like to have strangers around.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to give you an example.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was just on a plane and uh I was like walking to the back of the plane, all the baggage compartments were full.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: I have like my laptop in my head, I have a bag, I have this like soundbox backpack, and I'm like, I have like, I'm just like walking and I'm like, oh, and I don't know my seat number.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, I'm like, oh, I guess I just have to go ask for help.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so I get to the back of the plane and I'm like listening to this woman, and we're like sharing stories, and I'm like asking questions, and we're like laughing and enjoying each other's company.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Yeah, follow me.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I have a seat for you.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: And she takes me to first class, and I'm like, okay, what's up?
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm in first class now, midges.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so so the key takeaway here is that yes, we don't want to be consumers, we don't want to just watch social interactions pass us by, but listening actually enables us to be more deeply engaged with the people in front of us.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: And if we, if you can go through this world and you can boost the self-esteem of the people around you and they leave an interaction with you, being like, wow, like I'm more interesting, I'm smarter, I have more gifts than I thought.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is a superpower, right?
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_04: That yeah, I mean, when I first met you, you made me feel so heard that I started hearing myself more.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_04: Seriously.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: Happy Dad's in my hair.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: I knew that would happen.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what about you, Amy?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_05: I love this question.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_05: I was so enthralled with what y'all were saying.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, shoot, I don't think I remember what the initial prompt even was.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it was um what's like the biggest lesson uh that's helped you expand your impact?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_05: Gosh, okay.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_05: I think the biggest lesson that helped me expand my impact.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_05: I think there's a couple things that are coming up.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_05: One is um a layer of authenticity.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_05: I've been obsessed with my purpose and my purpose, purpose, purpose.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_05: What's my purpose?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_05: What's my purpose?
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_05: And thinking that it was almost like something outside of me and realizing A, like the baseline of my purpose I kind of see is to be me, to show up authentically me, and recognizing before I ever did any kind of facilitating or joy-making, that Amy Dickens walking into the room or sitting in front of a person, just being myself, I was seeing shifts in people.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_05: I was seeing a shift in the room and noticing, oh, I'm not trying to do any of that.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_05: That is just me coming into my, I don't know, being feeling safe to be me and how that can light up people and the world around me to feel safe enough to, you know, express something vulnerably or to just have a little giggly, silly, playful moment.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and yeah, that has really ignited something in me.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_05: But I think the path to that, there was a lot of letting go of thinking that my healing journey, because I had like such a freaking dysregulated nervous system and I was trying to do it right, I had a very big story of like, I'm going to do X, Y, Z, and this will help me.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_05: And it was like kind of helping.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_05: But once I really started leaning into, I don't know, experiences that would genuinely bring me to a state of joy, of laughter, of full aliveness and presence with people around me where I would just be like, wow, that I think reprogrammed my brain and my nervous system to lead me to be that more authentic version of myself.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_05: And it's it's to this day, I'm like, it's like my biggest back pocket tool of, oh, I'm feeling really dysregulated this week.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_05: I need to go do something that will like get me laughing, get me with someone, get me moving my body, some kind of movement that's regulating, that's playful, that's joyful.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_05: And then within like 10 minutes, Amy Dickens is back in like Amy Dickens mode, and then I can be wow, my service in the world.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: I I love it.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love it because and and Angela, Angela has her flavor of healing, I have my flavor of healing, and Amy has her flavor of healing.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe this is like a part two conversation, but I I just want to emphasize that like do whatever works, yo.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you are are like more alive and engaged and your connections are improving, and and you're like going to some shaman who's doing some pseudoscience on you and it's working, like who cares?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Who cares if it works?
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like it it is working for you.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, I'm I'm concerned at like I I don't want to live in the past, I don't want to ruminate, I don't want to believe that I am my childhood, like I am Jacques in this present moment.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but like that's just yeah, that's that that's useful for so many people, and state change is useful for so many people.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: And um making grief and and human emotion comical and satirizing it, that's useful for so many people.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that we need to um explore these modalities and and sometimes we don't need to heal anymore.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like sometimes like our life's good enough, and we don't have to like go back um and and we can just keep taking action, action as the best form of healing.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_05: Good, yeah.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like different strokes for different folks.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_05: And I think that's why I'm so passionate about people just being true to themselves.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's like if that works for you, that's great.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody else needs to see what you're doing, how you're doing it, because that's gonna work for them.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_05: And maybe it doesn't work for me, and that's okay.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_05: And also sometimes we maybe reach a point where this thing that used to work for a long time suddenly doesn't.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_05: It's just not quite hitting it for some reason anymore.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_05: And that's like, you know, that kind of like hero's journey moment of, oh, okay, now I get to explore some new, you know, uncharted frontier kind of thing and figure out the new thing that I'm being called to like grow and learn into.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_04: And I like how Jacques pointed out, you know, we all have like slightly different flavors, but it's still the same thing.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_04: We all care about feeling more alive and getting together in a cohesive way that endorses fun, right?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: Which leads me to drum roll.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think you guys know where this is heading.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: What's happening next month?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I have a great way to tie this in.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: We opened this conversation with you talking about the power of living in a home that that was was an uplifting environment.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: And we were all together, we'd like we did a play together.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: We like sat, we sat around like a fire pit and like listened fully to each other.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: We played Marco Polo, we went on hikes, we went on average expensive balloon rides.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um and and I just want to remind people like the the the there's there's a very science-backed way to change who we are and to upgrade our behaviors and our attitudes.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_00: And that path is immersion, immersion with people that have a shared goal.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: And we've we've talked about the social bank account, we've talked about the positive peer pod.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I cherish my these relationships with these two, right?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because they inspire me to try new things as a facilitator and as a joymaker.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so how what like that's that's what we're about.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's what I'm about.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: I want to create these immersive environments.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Amy is like stepping up hugely and producing her phone, her first immersive environment, right?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: Amy?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Or wait, you probably hosted a bunch beforehand.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, not this level of immersive.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: No, this is this is the this is the granddaddy of a like multi-day event uh Amy is doing, her grand voyage, if you will.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so so I mean, I want to invite everyone listening to to come immerse with us and to come co-create and um live, live in a way that that is is pretty natural and and like healthy.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why we are bringing Joy Camp to the great American nation.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, you know what's funny about that is uh when you guys told me about that in Arizona, I found out it was at this venue that I'm deeply affiliated with.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm good friends with the owner.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_04: He has so many crazy killer events that happen there.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_04: It's it is sacred indeed.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_04: But that venue space, I am pumped because it is like sexy and opulent.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_04: There's like sauna and hot tub along the riverside with swings on the river.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Swings equals fun equals movement, baby.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_05: And you can hang out with us all weekend in a beautiful place with incredible people having the time of your freaking life, just getting immersed in becoming the next best version of yourself.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: And and and I just want to emphasize like without appearing um like a hype man for Joy Camp, which I totally am.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, there's so many environments for personal growth that uh focus on hard things and and pain and suffering.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I believe there isn't enough personal growth that focuses on the science of thriving.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: And this isn't, you know, joycamp isn't gonna feel like personal growth, but you you bet you're going to experience that that part of you, that playful part of you, uh come out.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I just think it's so important for us to do that version of personal growth as well.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think we've neglected it in the science of psychology for like since the beginning.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's only in the last 10 years we've been studying the science of thriving.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so Amy and hopefully Angela and I, we're all going to be like spicing it up with some of these principles of like uplifting, fun personal growth.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that is another thing I'm super passionate about.
• 54:22
  unknown: Yeah.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_05: Truly.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my God, thank you.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_05: You said it so well.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like I'm just like, yeah, this is the thing that like really changed me from being a woman that was socially anxious for 10 years and just an absolute train wreck to becoming, you know, this version that you see.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_05: And you like literally people don't even believe that my past story is my past story.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_05: And this is genuinely a critical, crucial, immersive experiences that were fun, communal, and that continually pushed me into my growth edge to show up in ways where I felt uncomfortable, but was like, oh, I'm continually doing these things scared and loving it and feeling like the laughter is regulating my nervous system through it.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_05: I became a new person over and over and over and over and over again.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_05: So, like, who would I be not to create spaces and experiences for other people to have that opportunity to do their own growth journey in a way that I'm freaking passionate about?
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_04: Go, Amy.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_04: I'm so excited for this, guys.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_04: I freaking love you guys.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my God.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_05: I'm so excited too.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Jack, do you wanna also um, you know, I know you got your own thing that in Vancouver.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_05: Do you want to do any um sharing about that?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: I would just love to invite anyone who wants to create opportunities through them for themselves through mastering the skill of making people come alive.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you if you realize that like that skill is gonna be more and more valuable, then join our Joymaker Rebellion, join the WhatsApp, come hang out and come learn.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we also host a monthly free workshop where we teach a new leadership skill every month.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so check it out joymakerrebellion.com.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: Join our headquarters and like let's let's uplift the planet because humanity is starving, yo.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like we we need some more aliveness, we need some real presence.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: So let's let's give.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let's give to the world.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_05: True.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_05: I feel amped up.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_05: I haven't had any caffeine today, but I feel like I could take on the world right now.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_05: Good, because you can with the proximity power.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Truly.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_05: Get into proximity with the people that uplift you and inspire you to be the version of yourself you know you came here to be.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_05: Don't be making excuses that, like, oh, this comfort zone of people, I love them so much.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_05: If they're not lifting you up, say I love you, I'm sorry, goodbye, and lean into those people that are really lifting you up to that version.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_05: The world be needed right now.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: A little Sass there.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Amy.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm too scared.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm too scared to come to Joy Camp because my little ego doesn't want to look awkward or cringe.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you have one life.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do with it?
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, you know what?
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's okay that you're scared.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_05: That's how growth happens.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_05: That's how every single one of us here and every single person that is somewhere where you see them as being, I want to be there, they were not fearless to get there.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_05: They said, Oh, I'm scared.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_05: I'm scared I'm gonna be the only one.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_05: I'm scared I'm gonna be awkward.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm scared of X, Y, Z 10,000 reasons why our mind is always wrapping the story around why I'm scared.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_05: And you have to remember that.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_05: And they still did it.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_05: You can give the driver's seat to the version of yourself that says, and I know I'm capable of change.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_05: That's what all of us have done.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_05: Have been like, I'm gonna walk with the fear.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna make that choice to say, okay, I'm taking the leap.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna be held here.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_05: This is like a totally safe space filled with really incredible, kind, caring, compassionate, fun people.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_05: And you're gonna have an amazing time, pretty guaranteed.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you're gonna become a version of yourself that I think you might be surprised by if you really walk in with the fear into this space.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you so freaking much, Jack, for being here.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm freaking honored to that dude.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and like so grateful for you being in my so grateful for all that you create in this world.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_05: You are truly an inspiration to me and legend.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_05: Continue wait to continue seeing what you create in this world.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you're like wow, in my mind on the reg.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_04: I just want to add that Jacques, I would pay big money to get to be like an MPC in your brain.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, dopamine that for news.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_04: You could live Freaky Friday one day.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_04: That would be fun.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_04: Could you imagine?
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so thank you so much for like staying in your purpose and showing people what celebration with community, how that's possible.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_04: I cannot wait for next month.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the sexiest venue, just having fun.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_04: This is insane.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, I love this life.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: I fucking love this life.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_04: I love you guys, Jacques.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for vibing with us.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_04: Made my day.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_04: Truly.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm taking it in, and yeah, uh as you listen to Amy and Angela share their appreciation.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_00: I hope, I hope we're all inspired to share more appreciations with the people in our lives because I'm taking it in and I have self-doubt too, and this has an impact.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you, you too.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, thank you, and thanks to the beautiful listeners.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_05: Know that we freaking appreciate you too and the gift that you are in this world.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_05: And don't ever pedestal any of the three of us or anyone for that matter.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_05: We're not better than you.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_05: We're not.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_05: You are just as valuable.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_05: Your gifts are just as important, no matter how big or small you feel like it is.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you for being you just as you are today.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_05: Keep shining, keep being rad, and uh till next time, we freaking love you.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_02: That was beautiful.