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Fantasy Football Risers, Fallers & Draft-Day Lessons · Fantasy NFL Today

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if everyone, I'm your host, John bull sales.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the fantasy NFL today show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got my co-hosts that way, Jason Bob.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are on the eve of kind of fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's peak draft season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jason just had a couple of leaves on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got leads tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's strapped every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in the thick of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really time to talk, you know, put our cards on the table and talk about, you know, what's going on with the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jason, what's shaking?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and up so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're finally past the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we got literally eight days to our first game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first real game, I must say we have a, yeah, we have a Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wednesday starts this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that's what happens when you send teams to Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they put Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how many leagues are you in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that doesn't even include ours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which are in that draft service they have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're just going to talk about just a couple of the drafts that we've done and I don't know if we like talking about other or hearing about other people's fantasy teams, but it gives a little perspective on kind of if you got a big draft coming up what to expect because there are some kind of trends that are really kicking off and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I guess, well, the typical injuries, then you have, you know, certain uncertainty with, you know, a certain a few players, and then you have uncertainty about player availability via suspension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Draw it, it's always like the, you know, the hot topic of conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the initial thing that pops off outside of, you know, the top ranked fantasy players, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, it's very highly ranked players who are facing some injury issues or supplementary discipline and it's definitely kind of altering the way you think about, you know, how you're picking where you're picking and should I pick this player and on the risk of them missing a certain few games or can I hold the fork for a few games while this player is suspended and or out and, you know, get them back and then be really in great shape, I think that's a big trend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other trend that I've noticed this year is the depth of quarterback and the depth of tight end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Deeper feels deeper than it's ever been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both in those spots, a little more option, a little more optionality, so to speak, but in terms of a trend itself, at least on the quarterback side, one of the most things, some people are willing to go super early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other people, you know, it's like way more willing to wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On, yes, it's very unique, very unique season so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a sub station for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just seems like if you did a draft in June, you could be cooked some of your teams, like the best ballification of fantasy as it was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like with Ashton, Gentie and Jerry, when people were drafting that day, and he was going to pick a hundred and everyone was taking Mike Washington Jr. and the Josh Jacobs thing, like where did Martian Lloyd go in some of your drafts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we had my first draft on Sunday about,
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[SPEAKER_00]: two out two or three hours after the Marshawn boy or after the Josh Jacobs news broke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So looking here Jacob is went.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He still went the very end of the third round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's first draft I had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to miss a few, that's a shirt, but I mean, granted, the person who drafted Josh Jacobs, she's a packer fan for starters, also a routine name, shot on my home real alley is her team name is the suspendables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you've got to have suspended players on your team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to be as expendables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she chasing Jagan a pick with Rishi Rice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saying, oh, she's just, you know, we're going to bandize together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only first she's missing from last year, it's our ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But all of these gets fed yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, let's talk about rational people, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, say you're in a 12 team snake, you know, you know, one QB is take-ups even being drafted, because you can't put them on a high R, you've got to hold them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think I would draft it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for me, it's a personal thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would, it would be due not draft in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want players like that on my team, just for personal matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I was, if that you take that out of the equation,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So traffic like the bid rounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you You're missing half the season and you got to eat him on your bench, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get to eat him on your bench, but after you told out the rest of your team
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, you know, you end up with a couple of these of running backs, a couple of these and wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can wait on a quarter back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got an open little bench spot there and you can hold the fort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have enough guys to win you a few games for a few weeks and then you have Josh Jacob is just sitting under bench for a little bit and you get him back and you come into like week eight or nine at five and two or like six and two or five and three, you're a great shape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unjective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the scents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Follow those hypotheticals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was next?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We would talk about injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the studio need that because yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite thing is like just name me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Name a QB for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a later guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of Jared golf right there go I think it was second in passing touchdowns last year where I think with 35 like five free top 10 finishes, you know, he's going as what probably the QBA team, you know, give me the yeah he's going super late, he went in other bigger may feel right Baker and he had back back top 10 seasons before last season through 41 touchdowns here to go like this isn't a me flexing this is it's just like there's all these cubes that have top 10 potential past the top 10
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's impossible to really know which are going to pop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the funny thing is they all, you know, such a passing lead now, and there's so many more options and ways to get somebody to ball that counter the pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the tap, the little, you know, take the snap, tap it down, do a running back going or somebody doing the jet motion that counts as a bass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: something I have to try and stay everything I can't stand I think that should be a run all day but that's just me I think it's a whole staff had a thing I think it's weak but you know that's what they call it and the other day if you have a quarterback who can do that and somebody and they have skill players who can catch that and and try and take it for attention there's minimum four points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because like just even we go last season, you know, Kurt's KB7, 19 points, you know, Baker, KB19 scored 16.6, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, you know, it's just really not that drastic compared to where I early Epitakes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what would let's say you are, you know, it's single QB your team is nice, you know, fifth round is there a way, is there a scenario you take a QB there like obviously alms up out falling the Mars not falling like if you had if you'd got lamb or pickins would you taste stacked maybe in six or seven or burrow and five if you got burrow is that the only way you go early QB.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's six point passing touchdowns, but I would chase Barrow and chase Dak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would still follow the resume, because Dak for whatever reason never gets any respect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it's this inspector, Dak, like, I love, I hate Cowboys, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is constantly just slept on and disrespected every single season, especially from a fantasy standpoint, like he could conceivably, if everybody stays healthy, throw
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wrote about every QB has like one FQ season in them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Baker had this 41, Stanford at 46, Lamar had a 40 plus, you know, that's got another FQ season in this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's career high touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's 35 or 37, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just with Lamb and Pickins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could have, you know, 42, 44 touchdowns, 5,000 yards, be it thought by QB without running.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just cook it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing is his running numbers I think have gone back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know there was like a couple of years like, you know, the injuries and everything where they were really trying to be cognizant of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was 36 touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Wayne's way three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was the whole 17 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you just take a word of it higher because he, you know, he had, he had a, you know, young lamb and I was a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, aren't Cooper at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, rushing, you know, last year, yeah, this car is back up, which is good to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still ferry the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 53 times last year, a little yardage was down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, 53 carries 177 yards, a couple rushing CDs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, you'd like to, you know, see I go up a little bit more, but also you kind of know, drink it with back at this point with, you know, he's still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not terribly old is not young and it also like they'll hold significant leg injuries where it's like You have to you have to keep them up right and and for whatever reason the cowboy is released Joe Milton, which I am still So they really know back up to that no true good game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How all right, yeah, still good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I Love me some same out
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: One QB Lee, 12, 14 team, you're waiting at QB.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see a lot of stuff about people who just take the one QB to free up the bench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm waiting QB, I always take two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll take go QB and I found QB Tathbrow and get a nice goff and a good running QB.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's that bag war I'm adding in that case unless I'm getting Josh Allen early like in in this particular Jepa we were just talking about I take Josh Allen back in a second Mid like mid delights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the fourth overall pick so So you're all pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really like the rest of the board at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took Josh out I just you know He casted too many touchdowns, so like you literally keep me I did in this case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did a normally don't do
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[SPEAKER_00]: In less, you know, Owens there, and I'm at the top of that, you know, kind of in that top of that realm, or in that part of the draft, I will do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in this, you know, in most cases, I usually go, I usually get one, like in the somewhere between the 8th and 10th round to get another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Either somewhere in that same kind of frame or like 11th or 12th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you got a draft, we can pull up here, let's do a little break down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can show this one that we've just been talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a, how do you share screen on this thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to pick the little.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, it's present for the bus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hold the draft board right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you are here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you see me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, based on one idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll just draw some stuff out of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you go for, I love taking the same brown there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been considering Jason Puka or any of these running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was absolutely considering Jason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I don't know, I have Jason as a third round keeper in my big money league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or that will be my third, not will be my keeper in my big money league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying to find that first Bible a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like, I usually try to avoid having the same guy in the first round or the same, you know, same like top guy on every team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like to vary it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but so what it's just considering everything we've been talking about it's worth ethos here So if you're watching you like us check us out on YouTube like subscribe comment on Jason steam tell if you if you think it sucks But we it's a whole this discourse has been about going running back running back you didn't take a running back in any of the first three picks
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I want to, I want a lot of script of this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about John and Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about CFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt at that point, OmnRaw was the best player available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's usually so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He never really is let you down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I went with him there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love my mom on the road there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would heavily consider doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the second round is kind of what I've been doing a lot of solo pods about this, you know, the running back run, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chase Brown, Kenneth Walker, chain, Hampton, Henry, Gentie, and then I think at Gentie, it falls off a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Kairin's been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can lump him in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to say, Kairin, that was going to be my actual pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I can say, I got tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's due to an entity you want to force running back there and kick like Devante where it says it's like a double tier break between them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like we're going to force the pick there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to think what I thought was the best player of all I've made in this take a forcing running that I've taken the second round is come back by me and I just, you know, that's kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: My learnings over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like Josh Allen there and then when I was hoping Was that HN was going to come back to me on the term and not what's who I was gonna take, but you know Well, he went early second No, he went early third
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Travis, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah, not, not a channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you guys stay fully Travis, hey, yeah, yeah, so that was my initial hope and then obviously didn't work and I thought as much as, you know, as much of a scat guys I am for obviously biased reasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, just I couldn't justify spending a thorough mistake on it, so I said, so well, we got one to stay up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is why it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause if you don't, go up a bit to what you're top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you take stay brown, which is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you don't want to go wider silver again, even though pickin' his London and Nico are all great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then you was like talking to someone to Josh Allen, but it's still Josh Allen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now you've got your two picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have a running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then third round comes round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, God, I love, I love lad, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always a wider silver you love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, you've done three rounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't, you don't have a tight end, you don't have running back, but you got two widers series and it could be the two deepest positions, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like your team, but it's just like you just kind of put yourself in a hole from the jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all of it, but there's still, you know, there's still some late gems out there, you know, people kind of forget about the running back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also some running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, just not as high on like, this year's who are getting up in the rankings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just like, I'm just not about like, not that high on that TV series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David Montgomery is one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty high on Montgomery, because I have to grab his handcuffs, so I ended up with Woody Mark's two in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got the handcuffs, so I am even worried about that, but you know, Bucky, yeah, Bucky struggled last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just brought in Kay Gameboe who's great on passing down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't think he's not going to get touches and love in all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got to also trade with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guy, I can't pass perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might keep him off fuel a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, scroll down a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not loving your team to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd wish I would have Swift, I mean, Swift went before your perform on camera event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a huge, that's a big tier drop for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then coming back, what, were you gonna take training on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, I had no desire to take training on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you might deave it more over doing this with Williams to me, that's kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, that's crazy, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that makes, I get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've been, and then you get Ramanjre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ramanjre went for like double Henderson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, so that's a great little quick there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when Chuba Hubbard next round, even though, you know, I know he's a little banged up right now, but still if he's healthy, I think he's going to be the RB1 without Gauble and until Jonathan Bruce can prove to on, he can unseat them and, you know, see, get
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, probably not, but Brooks has hurt right now, and it always gets hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Robert was truly terrible last year, but I do like their online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was good until he got injured.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was ranked last in the explosive rate out of 44 running backs, which is always scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, you know, so I don't know how much you like hover, but the right, and you know, you go these three running backs and four rounds and they're not bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Stevenson a lot, hovered Montgomery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never draft, but it's just the position kind of thin zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to talk yourself into the guys or there's a run on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I will say the one of the other guy that I did really think about at a in that early fifth round was generic price.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was guys like take hammer to take DJ more and I chose to chase the stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, because sharpening is starting on the pop list so he's just turned there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But right, I just I don't think the Seattle aligns that great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was kind of propped up last year by Kubiak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They will, you know, they had a run heavy, you know, philosophy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like 50 50.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did split time and I just I'm not that sold on price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Darnell doesn't like checking down right he likes to throw deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the price things a little overhyped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Emmanuel Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They like this great Lonnie guy to sharpen it will become back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like for running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a little scary for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scroll down a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you're it's not what you have to zero RB, but you're doing like flood the flood the zone RB like where aren't they harby I think he's phenomenal.
17:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I was drinking with my buddies on Thursday through the draft and my buddy said he had 12 touchdowns and I was like, there's no way he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had 12 touchdowns last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's like you got a great online, you got a good defense, you've got a team that's going to be ahead, you've got a JK Dobbins who can't ever stay healthy, a rookie Jonah Coleman, like our day Harvey's is dual.
18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody seats on that guy, like he is just as capable of being an RB2 on any other team in the lead.
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but so, and but it's like you're playing a little running back through let with these got to like yeah, like Stevenson hover in our day Harvey through the scenario where Henderson Jonathan Brooks and Dobbins are all the RB ones and getting all the all the touches right and that will probably happen for a bit, but what I would take I would take your three over the other three yeah.
18:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, I had a plan going kind of a plan, I guess, not a full plan.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause honestly, so the way we did the draft order for this, we did a, we were the bar drinking together too.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually for this.
18:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out, the entire league for showing off who are heights on tavern in Portland for this.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got great spot.
18:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We did a, we're gonna do a draft Olympics where we're gonna do like a couple different events and then like, whoever got the most points was gonna be able to choose a draft spot but you know, we couldn't really get that all together.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did this 100 yard digital 100 yard rush thing and like whoever won, they got the choose a draft spot, you know, and go on and go for it.
19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So like that.
19:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I have of course, uh, so the first two guys that they went one two.
19:22
[SPEAKER_00]: The next guy shows me.
19:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Go in the arrow on the far right, the down arrow to drop B thing.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can see the full board.
19:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, click that.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He chose a next guy.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had the fifth overall selection of the draft spots.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I chose, or the guy before me chose three, I was like, I chose four.
19:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of thought about, I was like, I kind of regret this.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I really don't like this.
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I should not have done it.
19:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think four is the last bit of one I would choose.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you're not getting that second round running back.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And that fourth, you four to eight, I think anybody could go.
19:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it's pretty much gonna go, Gibbs, B, D on, Timmer, Chase.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but we're always saying it's like I should have gone back either a little bit or like like the 10 to 12 Brands like I can let other people decide that I was like, oh, no, I'm deciding it.
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, because that's kind of where the draft starts now is this season is a four.
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So this coming looking to hear some of the guys that really like I Blake Horum is a guy.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just really liked really like and haven't really gotten anywhere.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He went pretty late.
20:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do I see him?
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Here I went right in the night.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I just I love that.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's Jordan Mason?
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He went.
20:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He went.
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He went for like 12 bucks in my auction, which is it's super flat.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's not cheap.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Gainwell, Montague, like a Le Mungus week to week.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why if you do weigh that running back, and you can, like, if you've got Harvey and then maybe Corrum fell or you went Mason Corrum, like, I think those would be two really good running backs.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get really late in your drafts that really could give you, you know, Harvey won for a whole season.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of works.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That works.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Mason was Mason was that dude for a bit.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure a couple of years ago.
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: We're
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's okay, that's we can pivot out of that for a bit up and see if I can.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll show you my my super flex auction because it's so rare.
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll scroll you tell me who you think was a good value or not.
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's 14 team three wide receiver.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Ocean, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you guys gonna get a job of a role, man, I'm a sleeper guy.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there we go.
21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here's the big early guys.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I am a Good don't don't have to look off.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: What was the thing?
22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you why why don't you still turn to your team?
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Make it make it easier.
22:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't have to look up here.
22:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Shane 29 bucks.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy how much quarterback price have been gone up like a couple years ago.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I did my buddy's auction draft for him.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I got him two quarterback $3.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mar Jackson and Russell Wilson.
22:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And not in superplex though.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it's a starter in a backup.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It was perfect.
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so everyone's down on Tyson.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's incredible value.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think doubt what $4 is also very incredible value.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you do the auction super flex because so much money goes to QB.
22:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has money left over for these later tier guys and sometimes guys are just going for this just pennies on the dollar.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say, I don't get and jail and McMillian, McMillian for a dollar.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're, this crew is very high on McMillian.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: This we knew and Brian would be all like it.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's getting him for a buck is, it's great.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Luke, Luke Wilson paid that in $32 for a boooka.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I couldn't get in on that.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like likely for five bucks.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know of the giants and tight ends.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's going back to the same guy who just underutilized them.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the real, but the neighbors since that today, he might not even be out there for a week, but he might go in the pop.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's at life.
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And so then like Lisa, you know, but I'm a tight end guy and I like like Lisa.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like that you have to stack out of the dark.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're doing a super flex anyway, you might as well.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Suppressed dribbling with eight.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's kind of crazy like everyone everyone's really like everyone's really buying into the camp life Like I took in I took him in my rookie dynasty my with my 109 pick and they used him be there like there were three nine I knew the only chance I'd take him so I had because I didn't we didn't snake
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Evans is toast, right?
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had like three injuries already.
24:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Kittle at 32, 33, often like you'll have to remind me, okay?
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine, but it's like, I think dribbling just walking into the, you know, 120 carcass.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, I was light on a wide receiver, and it's also, you know, I want to put my money where my mouth is.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been writing about Michael Pittman all summer.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to have to take 12 bucks for him.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a huge bit of a guy.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, yeah, I've won my decision.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: In my big money league, I was decide until JSN Explore the way he did.
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Pittman was going to be my keeper for this year.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, JSN, what I'm going to play are the year and a half that threw around.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, of course, you got to do it.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you don't, you know, not keep them.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So who are some of the guys that went that you thought went way earlier than you thought they would or maybe guys you had pencils like I might be able to get this guy in the fifth and he went like in the third like so for example Parker Washington is kind of that guy right now where I'm seeing him going in third rounds of drafts I think he went for 18 bucks in my league you know the hype is a lot of the station.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: In my two weeks he went like the sixth so I think I think that was pretty what I've seen so far It's pretty kosher like I took him in the sixth round and one of my drafts that I had some day I took him yeah, I took him the sixth round.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and one of my drafts Caramara where you went in the draft I just showed, but yeah, I didn't really see him like going Didn't really see people reaching for him, but he did go before BTJ
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's where it's just one of the trends I'm seeing is because a lot of people writing about and talking about the same thing, the ethers pretty much clogged with the same staff, so it's like people really want these players and these good offenses, like the bears love Luma and for a lot burden went for a lot, Rome, Roman for a big Caleb went for a ton, the jags, right Trevor Lawrence is a lot, you know, the Parker Washington thing Detroit, a monorail went for like $58.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: which was crazy and a super flex right gives one for a fortune there's just you kind of have to pivot if your strategy is get players on these great teams you're going to pay a fortune so really if you can get a go middleing team or if you go bad team and that that team is better like I'm doing with Miami there's a huge market to get a great value on these players out might out actually out for form
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to be able to watch them every week and they're going to get their points and they're going to get their share, but also there's not a wrong going bad game, too, because silly season's great.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So silly season is how you kind of you can win leads in a way like, you know, back in the back in their early years, Jamis and like Blake Bordles, like they're silly season's were crazy.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what's the, what's the bad team you would like you to mind investing in for fantasy, you know, like, so we got like the jets, you know, Carolina made the playoffs, so maybe Falcons, Cardinals, Raiders, Steelers.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this thing where we can be a bad team to be not only modest, but I think a team why, I mean, the same size of right now we're a bad team, but they're on the rise.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would, they're, they're very much a team I would invest in.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I would stay away from Atlanta barring B-chan.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what we got in my opinion.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's been this the whole gives a beat on the same same, but different.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't understand that because Detroit's got the easiest schedule.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Goff never gets hurt.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got the QB play.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, line slipped a bit, but Gibbs is guaranteed to be.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I don't know if that's going to score 30 points every game.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Blan at two is liking his own tweet.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the ram, oh, sorry.
27:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a comment.
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm sorry.
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He gave himself a beep of peace press.
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So right a two is a legit unsliable 10x is hurt like B. John's amazing, but if that's offense is only scoring 18 to 20 points a game that limits B. John's upside, whereas give us can get three touchdowns.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, I agree with that.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's still I'm sitting here with one of two and B. John's there on that's a B. John.
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's maybe I maybe I might go chase, but because you want to go running back.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's just yeah, it forces be shot down your truck.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go a couple more minutes here.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone in your draft that you you felt like you missed out on or like that you kind of had cute, but they either couldn't get them because of where you were the draft for the positional, you know, scarcity.
28:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would say like the two people, you know, it's night or the time like a snipe with Travis HN, you know, that one was, you know, as a bummer.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I really like him, especially with Camara missing time.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, you know, Kendra Miller hasn't really done anything to prove he's going to be a steady RB2.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what was that say about Gibbs right now is they don't have lines to do not have an RB2.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, to me, that further cement gives us the 101 in my opinion.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: The tech ups on our M.I.R.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We're designated returns as you miss at least four games.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of broke before we hopped on.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's significant news.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: In Trump, I'm trying to go one.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, the, the current Williams pick.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the one I was kind of like, also, but he would fall to me and round two and I was going to be able to take him there.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but it, I would say it may alter my strategy for how I pick next week, picking one of the three in one of my drafts.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just to take your Marchace.
29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: really because now I'm kind of thinking the cafe where you find you know the whole running back seriously thing.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I guess but yeah I mean take that get get your guy you know your your your home or some is looking at map the cafe and you know in one I guess but like I don't I don't know I had genuine we don't know like I would be five percent of me says Chase but there's five percent of me trying to talk myself into the cafe.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: probably bigger than five.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to take McAfrey at eight keen.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it's like every trend in the entire world is again.
30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't against it.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's going to take chase just a spike.
30:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and just tell you that I had a ball to take your bar chase.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: The ball is to take to my case.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to tell you, just to prove you, I'm not a owner.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the one thing I want to talk about, I guess before we wrap up here is so you talk about APN because it's funny because at the beginning of the season, I was going off kind of the Saints O line last year, which was ranked really poorly and the Jags was absolutely was kind of ranked well there, you know, and I was like, well he's going from a downrated situation from the Jags to the Saints, but now the Saints are people everyone saying the Saints have like a top 10 maybe top 5 O line.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: and the JAXO line is ranked about kind of in the bottom 10.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So he might actually be getting an upgrade in situation without much competition.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a pass for soft ends, but they should be moving the ball a lot, be in the red zone a lot.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the AT&T and AT&T might actually be a really good value considering how well he pair of us there.
31:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It may be a pass for soft ends, but there's cops who either see for her bold injured and one of them is missing minimum two months.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: What, so was this saying, so what does that make you bomb Ola, a lot of more or does that get a little worried?
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they only like four wide receivers on the roster.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Other is hurting self-right.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to will bang up this this camp too.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm still like in the same place I've been with Ola Bay.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Why, even though we had such a great year last year, I just don't trust his health.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Help scares me to death.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I mean, yeah, how could you?
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's funny because like the same he said, you like them has kind of a good bad team, but yet they're also kind of a stay away.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is like shock is he would you rather have shock or go up and then one could be like go off.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll play this play the shock game.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Shock or bonix?
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's actually a tough call right now.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually a legitimately top call, just based on the weapons and availability or round him and the play caller, I'm still gonna go bone next.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Bo, play caller, Kellen Mark.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Sean Taden?
32:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, okay, what about, okay, Millie Quiddlest, or Talashak?
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: shot.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to eat, but I'm right now going, going shot.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: If Tyson was healthy, I could, I would go, I might go shot with you, but no, Malik all day.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, Tyson will be healthy by it's time I get to go see the Saints playing Carolina at the ship.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I see, I see my gap.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're going to wrap up here.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll do one more little quick segment, but if you're
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Dacen just wrote a great article to talk about yardage.
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we'll talk about that quickly.
32:47
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32:48
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32:49
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32:50
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32:54
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32:57
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32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So, your yardage thing, would you ever bet futures?
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know, let's talk about QBE yardage.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what if shop is, if shop was 30 to one, the lead in passing yards?
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you bet that?
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Well that's like 31 odds on pretty much I was like plus odds like I always look for plus odds and you know high you know longer shot odds you know a guy's like maybe one odd.
33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I just if I was a betting man I would grow I would throw money on 31.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay let's just kind of so 31 so running back what about who does the worst running back at 30 to one like would you like to volunteer Williams would you take him?
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay okay would you would you would you would you rather go like one of these backfields that's
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: where like like Pittsburgh and you take Rico Dattle and you can do it if David Warren gets her Dattle is going to be go go crazy, right?
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He could leave League of Russian Erks.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I'm actually going to say yes on this is because I've just seen doubt allow play guys on different teams now for two years like he out he outplayed whoever you know he was backing up in Dallas and ran for a thousand he outplayed Schubert Hubbard last year ran for over a thousand it was a fancy monster for quite a while last season.
34:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't see how he's not getting out of play in jail and walking.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what it was the worst ride receiver are you take to league league in the arts like that's that's too good a receiver.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just price.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like gay little water.
34:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, that's a tough question.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say my guidance.
34:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, it's a call on Devonse Smith.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, nice, but even he got to get half the arts, but okay.
34:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he can like even though I know her struggle throwing the ball last year.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's the guy now in Philly and Cheywin hurts has been known to be able to hit him for explosives.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can do it.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say, bogus for plays playing week one.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: What would what like, what odds do you do?
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: would you bet like have to take for him to be believefully?
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they think he's like 15 to one.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You could say it's I've seen the one and in.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to even say 15 to one is probably not.
35:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be surprised that it was like 10 to one or less.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I bet it's I know.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet it's probably 25 to one.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
35:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So many of what you've seen.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be Bucca day a sin.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I mean, Bucca for your one crazy
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So a book is seventy plus seventy five hundred seventy five to one.
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I would smash that my guy.
35:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's gonna shoot for us at our gambling segment.
35:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not locked into future.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get locked in.
35:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I will be doing a future spotcast.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I will make some live bets because that'll be fun.
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget our Thursday games.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: We will have Thursday props every week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we do there's a profit Jason specialty we're going to keep track this year too and maybe even better yeah we're really good we actually I'll keep a running sheet on that this year okay and then all the hours I'll make a little part of every time okay that's going to do for us Jason next for coming on Thursday we're doing live show live show so comments viewers everybody we are going to do it for sport ethos draft and it's going to be it's going to be