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Club 520 - Kevin Garnett tells Jeff Teague about talking trash to Michael Jordan, Vince Carter Team USA dunk · Club 520 Podcast

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Speaker 4: about to say this looked like some ship. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 4: I love y'all ship Man.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Man, we just talk about the feast.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for me, You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm an OD ticket fan. I know your
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Speaker 1: rookie year. You came out in a concourse. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, So I've been to it the past, Levis,
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Speaker 1: But you done have so many heat shoes. What's one
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Speaker 1: of your favorite signature shoes you ever had?
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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest, man, I had something to do
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Speaker 4: every time you seen my name on the shoe. I
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Speaker 4: had some input in that, and I thought that that
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Speaker 4: changed a lot of the the concept because if you
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Speaker 4: went Nike, your Adidas, they're coming there with a pre
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Speaker 4: concept already that they've having a line of so many
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Speaker 4: other things. And you know I was taught earlier, man,
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Speaker 4: that's something represent representing you. You want to be able
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Speaker 4: to have your your at least you're taken and what
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Speaker 4: comes from you. So yeah, I think probably my obviously
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Speaker 4: when you first get your shoe and then being with
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Speaker 4: Nike getting the shoe right. So Garnet warm is always
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Speaker 4: a special place just because that's my first take that
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Speaker 4: your shoe, and then to see it perform and then
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Speaker 4: get to Garnet three and have it be like one
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Speaker 4: of their best sellers and kids come, you know, running
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Speaker 4: up on me with you know, just showing their appreciation.
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Speaker 4: I got to tag some of my my my neighborhood
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Speaker 4: on it with OBF on the bottom. I was in
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Speaker 4: young State. It was going ninety seven, nine eight. Was
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Speaker 4: it a lot? You know, it was love. It was going.
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Speaker 4: You know, Jeff didn't think I was gonna make it.
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Speaker 4: Every talking about I was gonna be out the league
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Speaker 4: in two years. They were talking crazy. They were tripping.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what they drinking and taking. I don't know,
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Speaker 4: but but damn sure wasn't nah. But yeah, man, the
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Speaker 4: Flight Posites was was another shoe that I'm sticking out
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Speaker 4: the Nike shoes with some of the best shoes because
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Speaker 4: of just of the technology that not Nike goes doing.
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Speaker 4: Push you and Jeffy noticed. Man, they got so many
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Speaker 4: different comforts and cushions that they can pat and put
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Speaker 4: in your shoe. But then Adidas, you know I had,
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Speaker 4: I had a short run and one that was cool,
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Speaker 4: but Adidas had another level of technology that I can't
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Speaker 4: speak on my first My first thing to shoot with
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Speaker 4: them was through the roof and very comfortable shoe. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: those are shoes that just stand out right away to
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Speaker 4: just you know, that made that to me, made a difference.
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Speaker 3: And that's what so far about you.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, we know you were a champion, we know you
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Speaker 1: got crazy on the court, but to have such an
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Speaker 1: impact to the culture, like we were talking before the
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Speaker 1: Jamie Fox episode, you know what I'm saying, man, we
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Speaker 1: had the real crossover.
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Speaker 4: Was trying to take Fancy from Fancy was choosing what
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Speaker 4: he said.
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Speaker 2: He couldn't find a KG jersey, so he had to
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Speaker 2: get the Wally.
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Speaker 4: Shout to Jake Fox. That was a fire cameo. Bro,
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Speaker 4: that was cool. That was cool. That was a cool joy.
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Speaker 4: That was a real cool joy you said.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I had before we even
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Speaker 1: get you. Gotta talk about your interaction, man. I loved
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Speaker 1: the heacnpartments for but tell the.
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Speaker 4: People man, now, when I first came here, I told Joe, Yeah, nigga,
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Speaker 4: I did growl at you. Yeah, you know what it was. Absolutely.
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Speaker 5: We played them in the playoffs and I dunked on
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Speaker 5: ray allity in the preseason. I got a tech and
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Speaker 5: I was barking doing my thing and I had the
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Speaker 5: game win a shot and I ir bought it and
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Speaker 5: he followed me through the tunnel, was.
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Speaker 4: Like, don't funk with the basketball guys. You're not like that.
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Speaker 4: Don't do that.
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Speaker 5: And for we played them in the playoffs and like
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Speaker 5: I had a good game game one.
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Speaker 4: He would not.
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Speaker 5: Say, like who I was because I don't know him.
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Speaker 5: Who you talking about? Damn?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 2: We played up with the guard.
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Speaker 5: He came out, he slapped the floor, got on like
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Speaker 5: all flour and started growding.
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Speaker 4: Well you scared the traumatized.
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is my moment. I I ain't
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Speaker 2: gonna forget this.
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Speaker 4: Cob had the hissing Cob hits at you. I was
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Speaker 4: on my DM next ship. I want the crowd. I
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Speaker 4: want to see where niggas was at. You know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying he talking about. I just want to to
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Speaker 4: say my name.
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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I just want dollars me, bro,
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Speaker 2: but supposed to be like.
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Speaker 4: You weren't showing fans get money out here. He was
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Speaker 4: talking that ship. Young fella had confidence. I had watched
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Speaker 4: him and wake forwards. You know I had followed you
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Speaker 4: and you got right to it White when you got
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Speaker 4: in the league, you had a lot of confidence in yourself.
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Speaker 4: And when you punched it on Ray. The reason why
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Speaker 4: I was really upset was because anything to the basket
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Speaker 4: were supposed to put a nigga on his ass. Ray
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Speaker 4: went for the blocking. You know, young fella flustered. It
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Speaker 4: wasn't you know, it's basketball. So yeah, I was just
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Speaker 4: trying to smash is Pauls destroy his confidence. You know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was on some like nine well
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Speaker 4: the names on when you bought it, you know how
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Speaker 4: I mean. You know what I'm saying. He throw this
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Speaker 4: on his back, make sure he don't forget this. Then
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Speaker 4: I was just standing on him every time I see him.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't shaking his hand, get him like you. I mean.
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Speaker 4: But but the whole time I'm watching how you react
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Speaker 4: to it, because it's pissing him off. The more. He
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Speaker 4: getting pissed off, he coming spinning and then he and
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Speaker 4: that's what I want. I want to his best and
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Speaker 4: I wanted to make him angry and I wanted to
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Speaker 4: play against that. And then later on in his career,
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Speaker 4: man walk boom shop boy. Gee you good boy, I'm
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Speaker 4: good boom And that's the respect of it that was earned.
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Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: My brother was like nah, tickets said, you're good bro.
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Speaker 4: You I like, nah, took care of your little brother.
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Speaker 4: That just because of the respect to have for you.
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Speaker 4: Real shit, I appreciate that, sure, young And I said,
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Speaker 4: what up, it's my dog.
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Speaker 2: I got you real for sure.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 3: Listen, man, you you have so many fire moments. Yo.
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Speaker 4: U lusa's career.
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Speaker 1: But we all from Indianapolis, Indiana, and my high school
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Speaker 1: basketball is.
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Speaker 3: One player that we have a very high regard for.
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Speaker 1: You have a famous slip for it, my man aj
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Speaker 1: Air Gordon dog that clip for him visiting that shot,
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Speaker 1: he said, hell no, trash, It's one of my favorite
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Speaker 1: clips of all time.
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Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna keep it one hundred. Man. You know
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Speaker 4: I'm a savant and you know I know my ship.
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Speaker 4: So when I get out here, I'm watching. I know players,
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Speaker 4: I know what they can and can't do. So you know,
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Speaker 4: he Gardon went through a rough little patch when he
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Speaker 4: was playing great with the Clippers. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: I think when he got to New Orleans he was
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Speaker 4: having injuries and shit. So I was just root for
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Speaker 4: him to get back. And what y'all don't know. Before
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Speaker 4: that clip, he had came down on some groovesh you
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Speaker 4: know how he five trail three bows, so we can't
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Speaker 4: he was putting motherfuckers in the mixing. Now. You know,
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Speaker 4: we had a bunch of young guys, Zach Levine, a
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Speaker 4: younger Andrew Wiggers, a young carth in town, and he
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Speaker 4: was just he was dogging on. He was beastem So
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Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, look, you know, compete, man,
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Speaker 4: don't don't let the moffuorer come down here and just
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Speaker 4: you know, compete. So when he came down, he did
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Speaker 4: some ship and then he spun it. Then he stepped
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Speaker 4: out like they don't know. Nigga, ain't what you do,
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Speaker 4: trans nigga, ain't he ain't nigga, Hey, nigga, get back
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Speaker 4: to what you nigga Like, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: and it wasn't even it was for him. But the
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Speaker 4: move is what made me react. I was like, what, yeah,
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Speaker 4: go back and look at the move though. The move
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about he was trying. There was a transh move,
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Speaker 4: so I was I was basically calling what I was saying, yeah,
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Speaker 4: shouting going man, you know you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: real ship. I'm glad to see him still going you
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, helping teams and ship. Yeah, shot
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Speaker 4: to him.
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Speaker 1: And man, listen, so many moments I'm a fan because listen,
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Speaker 1: I look at the Olympics, and every time I think
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Speaker 1: about the Olympics, I think about that the best dump
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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Card been in that moment? How was
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Speaker 1: it that? How was it to witness that moment live?
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Speaker 4: Listen? Man, shit happened so fast I couldn't even I
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Speaker 4: thought he got an end one. And when I when
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Speaker 4: I started, they call then an one, I was like,
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Speaker 4: oh sh he cleared that mother? Fuck? Did he just
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Speaker 4: clear the mother and he dunked it And when he
10:03
Speaker 4: came down, if you see me, I really wanted to
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Speaker 4: go full like Nigga, but we had one two like damn, okay,
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Speaker 4: get back and leap. It was like kind of like that.
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Speaker 4: I had played with a guy with high school named
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Speaker 4: Ronnie Fields. People hit the air, and I seen him
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Speaker 4: do some most some of the most craziest shit. But
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Speaker 4: then Vince Carter is the class of ninety five and
10:21
Speaker 4: were not been to camps together, so I'm not seeing
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Speaker 4: him do some of the crazy shit. But yeah, Bro,
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Speaker 4: him jumping over a whole seven six seven five guy
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Speaker 4: was like a whole nother Like I swear Tom stopped dog.
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Speaker 4: If y'all look at all of us, all of us
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Speaker 4: been behind me Gary, We all like like in a
10:38
Speaker 4: like a frozen moment to where I thought that nigga
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Speaker 4: froze he felt us for like two seconds. But yeah, man,
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Speaker 4: shot to Vince Carter, Man, that's probably one of the
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Speaker 4: most electric electric moments I've ever been in. You know
10:49
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We couldn't really just get into it.
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Speaker 4: We had okay and then it was over. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: that was one of the more crowning moments in the
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Speaker 4: Olympic history. Bro. Speaking of Ronnie Fields, Bro, I don't
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Speaker 4: think he get enough credit notoriety. How was it like
11:01
Speaker 4: playing with him? Man? How did y'all even link up
11:03
Speaker 4: at Fergate. So I was coming from South Carolina and
11:08
Speaker 4: my mother was moving me. I was in a very
11:10
Speaker 4: very hectic and traumatic recruiting I don't even want to
11:16
Speaker 4: debacle like colleges, was coming doing crazy shit. This is
11:21
Speaker 4: my first interacting with money, big bags of bread like yeah,
11:25
Speaker 4: it was just getting crazy. So y'all got in some
11:27
Speaker 4: trouble in high school and my mom moved me. And
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Speaker 4: the one coach I had at Nike Man was with
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Speaker 4: Nelson and he had coach Ronnie in high school up
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Speaker 4: in Chicago. So him and now he stayed in contact,
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Speaker 4: just like hey, working on you, you know, because he
11:41
Speaker 4: would always take me off to the sideware, spending like
11:43
Speaker 4: a whole hour just throwing working and stuff. So I
11:45
Speaker 4: fucked with his development. Man, And you know how to go,
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Speaker 4: Jeff Man, when you got a coach destiny, you know,
11:51
Speaker 4: like pouring into it. Just just just dialed in with you.
11:54
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He with you. You know,
11:57
Speaker 4: you go through some frustrating moments. He right there and
11:59
Speaker 4: then I ain't evenly have no pops. I ain't ain't
12:01
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, had no man in my life.
12:02
Speaker 4: My mom was enough man for everybody in this motherfucker room.
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Speaker 4: So you know, now, I grew up a certain type
12:08
Speaker 4: of temperature. I was. I was. I was used to
12:11
Speaker 4: a certain type of environment. I one tripping over the jungle.
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Speaker 4: I was raised in it. So to have a male
12:18
Speaker 4: in my life that was giving me some guidance and
12:20
Speaker 4: someone I could pick the phone up even though he
12:22
Speaker 4: was a thousand miles away, was confident for me. So
12:24
Speaker 4: when I had the chance to be able to go
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Speaker 4: up and play with him, I didn't even think about
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Speaker 4: the city. I didn't think about nothing. I was thinking
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Speaker 4: about Damn. I got a coach that believe me. Man,
12:32
Speaker 4: let's get it. So Man, I got up there and
12:34
Speaker 4: we was rocking day one. And then that's when it
12:37
Speaker 4: hit you, like, oh shit, you in Chicago. These are
12:39
Speaker 4: the rules, and this what you gotta you know what
12:40
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it wasn't even a basketball problem I had.
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Speaker 4: It's more of a just adjusting to the big city.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man.
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Speaker 1: And another wonderful moment Olympic You going crazy in the ones,
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Speaker 1: running everybody else down, Hey Man, lit like iconic moment.
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Speaker 4: I was.
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Speaker 3: He was cleaning boys up.
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Speaker 2: He was talking crazy too.
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Speaker 4: Man, it is what it is now, Jeff. Jeff noticed
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Speaker 4: man like during the times where we played. Man, I'm
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Speaker 4: not speaking on some of this younger stuff, but let's
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Speaker 4: go back like ten fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 4: Uh, it was a billion it was a bullion league.
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Speaker 3: Ye.
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Speaker 4: And you had to be a demon and play in it,
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Speaker 4: I'm sir, and not not just half confidence, but you
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Speaker 4: had to be a demon. And I mean t you
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I don't want to elaborate
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Speaker 4: on it, but you had to be like a different,
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Speaker 4: a different You had to have a different mindset. So
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Speaker 4: we're in the Olympics working out and one of the
13:31
Speaker 4: things j Kid does to get back in shape is
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Speaker 4: play four court one on ones. Yeah, and we had
13:37
Speaker 4: practice and it was a tech. It was the one
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Speaker 4: to practice where it was touchy, it was edgy and shit.
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Speaker 4: So gods wanted to compete. So about six or seven
13:45
Speaker 4: us to say, hey, man, let's get some cardio in
13:47
Speaker 4: niggas didn't want to run the customary seventeens. You know
13:49
Speaker 4: how that shit goes, you know, because back then you
13:52
Speaker 4: had time seventeens and then back then you had two
13:54
Speaker 4: a days for the whole training cap So if you
13:56
Speaker 4: had training cap thirty days. You had to you feel
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So yeah, it was just different on
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Speaker 4: how you got ready. So we jumped in it. And
14:03
Speaker 4: now you know how I go, I want to one
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Speaker 4: on ones. Man, you know how it got a wicked yeah. Man,
14:09
Speaker 4: you know, usually one of the ones go like you know,
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Speaker 4: you go, I go, I stop you, you stop me?
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Speaker 4: But man, when you get in a row and then
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Speaker 4: I don't know the cameraman in the cut, that's what
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Speaker 4: didn't nobody know. Bro, you know, the camera come out
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Speaker 4: of everybody, the element of embarrassment goes to like, you know,
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Speaker 4: a million right. So it was already testy, you know.
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Speaker 4: Me and Reef was already testy. Uh you know, a
14:33
Speaker 4: couple of people's in there, testy Ray and Gary was
14:35
Speaker 4: testy Timmy. It was just testy, you know. And yeah,
14:39
Speaker 4: and I got the going so yeah, fuck it, I'm
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Speaker 4: king of the hell. Let's get it. So I was
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Speaker 4: talking my ship and then if somebody had wanted to
14:45
Speaker 4: do something, we could play another. So we played three games,
14:48
Speaker 4: but didn't nobody know the guy and the cut over
14:51
Speaker 4: there getting it all. It's two more games that they
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Speaker 4: ain't show and I'm glad they didn't else. I won
14:56
Speaker 4: the second one. I won first one, and then I
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Speaker 4: want the last one. The second one, two three, The
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Speaker 4: second one and the third was so physical that yeah,
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Speaker 4: we probably did We probably didn't want that one out.
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Speaker 4: But it was all a good shout to the you
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Speaker 4: know two thousand, you know team Man, we did that. Man.
15:12
Speaker 4: I want to talk about how you and Palm man
15:14
Speaker 4: Man on that k Swiss and Uta. Well, Paul, had
15:19
Speaker 4: you come all the way out there of the county, Man,
15:21
Speaker 4: I was ship, same ship out the truth. So I'm
15:24
Speaker 4: from South Carolina, Jeff, you know what the South like. Man,
15:26
Speaker 4: You're not playing in North Carolina. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: He ain't really a bunch of ain't nothing down there.
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Speaker 4: So it was it was very little recruitment. A lot
15:33
Speaker 4: of a lot of football recruitment, but very little recruitment. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and very little sponsorship. So you know, South Carolina, you
15:42
Speaker 4: had to go to either Georgia to Atlanta, or you
15:44
Speaker 4: had to go to Charlotte to go to one of
15:46
Speaker 4: the bigger camps. So I ended up going to a
15:49
Speaker 4: camp in Atlanta and a guy down there, Yeah, he
15:54
Speaker 4: he was just like a sponsorship for any of anybody
15:57
Speaker 4: else like Nike Adas. He he had k Swiss want
16:00
Speaker 4: nobody really recruiting or none of that. But he was like, Yo,
16:02
Speaker 4: you want to go to West Coast. You know what
16:03
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You're playing the West Coast Like shit, this
16:05
Speaker 4: that's what I need. He said. Cool. He wanted to
16:08
Speaker 4: really want nothing, but it's about to experience. You know
16:10
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I never been to Cali that before
16:12
Speaker 4: we pull up, Man, we get right to Inglewood, come
16:14
Speaker 4: out to join n Inglewood. I don't know why I'm met.
16:18
Speaker 4: Come up to some little raggedy gym. You know what
16:20
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You can tell you it in the polished neighborhood,
16:22
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Come in here and I
16:24
Speaker 4: see three guys playing. I see this little tall ass,
16:27
Speaker 4: little fat kid. Dog. Nigga had like the little Stefan
16:30
Speaker 4: Marlberry curly kid on. I told you he had a
16:32
Speaker 4: whole s curl when I seen it, like Ice c
16:34
Speaker 4: You goddamn shit was shaky. Ain't man, you had a
16:37
Speaker 4: whole curl when I saw you, Nigga. You know what
16:39
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But man, Jemmy was a little fat little, you
16:41
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was like, man, okay, and
16:44
Speaker 4: then I saw him go up and boom that moll fire,
16:46
Speaker 4: like damn, a little fat motherfucker got some house man.
16:49
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's Paul Pierce. I was like, were and
16:51
Speaker 4: he looked like a younger version of what you see now,
16:55
Speaker 4: probably saying way more wild than shit, you know what
16:58
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But uh yeah, people met at like sixteen
17:01
Speaker 4: and before. I didn't know that in his in l
17:05
Speaker 4: A Toby Bailey, Ricky Price, a bunch of these older
17:09
Speaker 4: j R. Henderson. These are guys that were running LA
17:11
Speaker 4: at the time, you know what I'm saying. And he
17:14
Speaker 4: he looked up to them. So I don't know none
17:16
Speaker 4: of this. And I don't know none of these guys,
17:17
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But then you got the
17:19
Speaker 4: Collins Twins, you got Jolannie Mccaordy, you got Shane Cotton,
17:22
Speaker 4: all these West coaches I ain't never heard of, you
17:24
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I was eager to play,
17:26
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. See what see what you
17:28
Speaker 4: know a lot of these guys have to offer, and
17:31
Speaker 4: I didn't have that. I didn't have that and not
17:35
Speaker 4: seen you play factors, so I didn't. I'm coming in
17:37
Speaker 4: here like I don't know who Jelani is. Oh, Johlanna.
17:40
Speaker 4: He block everybody shot, so I was like, oh, I mean,
17:43
Speaker 4: how big is Jolana. It's like, well he's seven foot.
17:46
Speaker 4: He bought your side and I was like, so I
17:49
Speaker 4: was on, I don't know who this is. So I
17:51
Speaker 4: go right in the beach mood like you from bund Lions.
17:54
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, specially yo. But the La
17:57
Speaker 4: niggas had me running through the casinos hitting ship and
17:59
Speaker 4: they jumping out of cabs and just doing l a ship.
18:02
Speaker 4: So we got in the game. Bro. We all connected
18:05
Speaker 4: term all the all the little because he played with
18:08
Speaker 4: a bunch of hood guys that are from Inglewood that
18:10
Speaker 4: went to Inglewood High. The j Crow, the one you
18:12
Speaker 4: see him on two Flown Switch, that was his point guard.
18:15
Speaker 4: Shout out to Demani. He's a rapper. He used to
18:17
Speaker 4: play show a couple of those guys, just you know guys,
18:21
Speaker 4: and but they played hard, and man, we end up
18:23
Speaker 4: winning that little ship. Man, we want that little vegashit.
18:26
Speaker 4: We weren't supposed to win nothing. That's how he was
18:28
Speaker 4: though a bunch of his friends. Same ship. When you
18:33
Speaker 4: get your first, when you get your first, you look Vegas.
18:36
Speaker 5: I went to ABCD camp. Oh okay, yeah, I went
18:38
Speaker 5: to the ab CD camp. I had like one offer
18:40
Speaker 5: going there, end up killing that and getting like seventy off.
18:44
Speaker 4: Why wait, Forest, Bro.
18:46
Speaker 2: I was a fan of Chris Paul. I grew up
18:48
Speaker 2: watching Chris and I was like, damn, they let him
18:50
Speaker 2: do whatever.
18:51
Speaker 4: Up there for sure?
18:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, right, I don't need to follow it
18:55
Speaker 5: the four steps and that's how it happened.
18:56
Speaker 4: World. That's what's up. I Georgia time up there, Bro.
18:59
Speaker 4: I'm from ACCNT, so you know, uh, you know, I
19:02
Speaker 4: was a huge Tarhee fan and all that other ship.
19:04
Speaker 4: But Bro used to used to get your money.
19:06
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
19:07
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, what school was you gonna
19:08
Speaker 5: go to if you didn't go straight to the league.
19:12
Speaker 4: Uh, Michigan, Okay, Michigan I went to I went to Michigan.
19:18
Speaker 4: Uh two years before so tenth grade. I had a
19:22
Speaker 4: chance to go up and watch him play Michigan State,
19:24
Speaker 4: and I got to meet Webb, and I got to
19:26
Speaker 4: meet j Juwan, I got to meet Jimmy. Everybody jialing everybody,
19:31
Speaker 4: and they were super cool and not at the time
19:33
Speaker 4: to where you could take people around. They just took
19:35
Speaker 4: me and we we kind of disappeared and where it was.
19:38
Speaker 4: I took a liking to web Web's gang. But then
19:42
Speaker 4: when I met Web where Web cuffed me like a
19:44
Speaker 4: like a like a little brother man, and and and that,
19:47
Speaker 4: and that stuck with me so much that when I
19:49
Speaker 4: watched him play, I saw myself and then I just
19:53
Speaker 4: start piecing off the style. Obviously I wanted to Web
19:56
Speaker 4: size or none of that, but the way he played
19:58
Speaker 4: through and that, and you know how you is when
20:00
Speaker 4: you're seeing your favorite player, right, So yeah, I want
20:03
Speaker 4: to follow in those footsteps. But you and Cee was
20:05
Speaker 4: great on development, and one of the things I wanted
20:08
Speaker 4: to really do was develop as a player. I didn't
20:09
Speaker 4: want to, you know, I didn't want you to look
20:11
Speaker 4: at a nineteen ninety five tape and then look ninety
20:13
Speaker 4: seven and I'm looking the same. So you A and
20:15
Speaker 4: c was known for developing one thing. I will say,
20:19
Speaker 4: they developed big men in a certain way. And if
20:23
Speaker 4: you saw how my style was, I didn't want to
20:25
Speaker 4: be your traditional big well, you know, I didn't have
20:28
Speaker 4: the body mask to go down in and Kevin m
20:31
Speaker 4: kel will be showing me this move where you had
20:32
Speaker 4: to have big shoulders to get it up. You know
20:35
Speaker 4: exactly what I'm talking about, bro. You know you're trying
20:36
Speaker 4: to figure that out so early on. I struggled with that,
20:39
Speaker 4: but I figured it out. But I wanted to go
20:41
Speaker 4: to UNC for the development. I had a cousin. I
20:44
Speaker 4: got a real cousin in life, Shaman Williams, who actually
20:47
Speaker 4: start and play. Yeah. Yeah, Shaman's my older cousin. My
20:50
Speaker 4: real father in life is his uncle. His mother is
20:52
Speaker 4: my real aunt. Oh okay, badly know my Popstow. So
20:56
Speaker 4: you know that whole shit was kind of you know
20:58
Speaker 4: what I mean. But when we saw each other, it's
20:59
Speaker 4: always love. If I see him today, it's always loved,
21:02
Speaker 4: same old, same old. But yeah, those two those those
21:06
Speaker 4: two two schools really made an impact on them. You'd
21:11
Speaker 4: have been ra Michigan now. I remember. I remember I
21:14
Speaker 4: wanted to go to Georgia Tech with Steph Man and
21:16
Speaker 4: Bobby Krimins told me they had a kid by the
21:18
Speaker 4: name of Eddie Elisma and they didn't need no more
21:20
Speaker 4: big about listen. For about ten years I was looking
21:24
Speaker 4: for Eddie Elisha. I just wanted him to be on
21:27
Speaker 4: somebody's team. I just wanted to show Bobby, Bobby Krimins,
21:31
Speaker 4: what what what's the difference? You know what I'm saying.
21:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, but where you get that mindset from? Because I
21:35
Speaker 5: follow your story, Brahma, huge fan. I remember you doing
21:38
Speaker 5: your draft workouts and you're talking about pat Riley.
21:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, the pat Riley Great. Yeah. My mama,
21:46
Speaker 4: my mom. Man, my mom's a kind of a shot
21:49
Speaker 4: to my mom Sheryl, you know, but yeah, my mom's
21:52
Speaker 4: a she's a hard worker. Man. My mom used to
21:55
Speaker 4: work the graveyard ships. You know, the graveyard ships are
21:58
Speaker 4: on twelve to twelve six, you know what I'm saying. So,
22:01
Speaker 4: so yeah, my mom worked at so you know, I
22:04
Speaker 4: grew up very responsible, being able to cook early, being
22:07
Speaker 4: able to clean the house early. I grew up in
22:09
Speaker 4: the South, so I was outside. I'm from slap box.
22:13
Speaker 4: I'm from all the guys fighting. I'm from I'm from
22:15
Speaker 4: all that wrestling for the belt, getting beat for the belt,
22:18
Speaker 4: going home, cutting out carpet, making a new belt, coming
22:21
Speaker 4: outside with the you know, I'm from that real nigga
22:23
Speaker 4: on the bike. I'm in neighborhoods my neighborhood fighting your neighborhood.
22:27
Speaker 4: I'm from all that, you know what I'm saying. So
22:30
Speaker 4: outside outside and I'm from the black Top. I'm I'm
22:34
Speaker 4: I'm out here. I'm gonna go to every park and
22:36
Speaker 4: see who out here and try to kill it. And
22:39
Speaker 4: you start to get a rep you know what I'm saying,
22:40
Speaker 4: that's big fella. You know that's uh yeah, they them,
22:43
Speaker 4: Mallen them, the Marten Boys. You know what I'm saying,
22:45
Speaker 4: Shit like this, But yeah, man, my mom gave me
22:50
Speaker 4: this kind of a yeah, no, no, no nonsense kind
22:55
Speaker 4: of attitude that the goett ship and why not you?
23:00
Speaker 4: My mom used to play all those little riddles with me.
23:02
Speaker 4: She said, Kevin, you know, if you ever come into
23:04
Speaker 4: your room and look for the leader, said, why what
23:07
Speaker 4: you talking about? Well, if you can't find a leader
23:09
Speaker 4: in the room, guess who's the leader? She say, She
23:10
Speaker 4: lived this a little shit like that, and then dog,
23:13
Speaker 4: I started taking shit personal. You know what I'm saying,
23:15
Speaker 4: light skinned niggas and dollars staying. You know what I'm saying.
23:18
Speaker 4: So I'm super competitive. So a lot of times though,
23:22
Speaker 4: when when I would take things personal, I would put
23:25
Speaker 4: it in the competitive form because I didn't want to
23:27
Speaker 4: be rowdy. Uh you know, we got ass whoop in
23:30
Speaker 4: my house, so I'm from I got manners, open doors
23:33
Speaker 4: for women. I watched dishes, I know how to clean
23:35
Speaker 4: the whole house up, you know what I'm saying. So
23:38
Speaker 4: putting all those into play couldn't get in trouble in
23:41
Speaker 4: school or you got killed, you know what I'm saying.
23:43
Speaker 4: So I had to learn and control those emotions and
23:46
Speaker 4: then challenge towards something. So when basketball started coming into
23:49
Speaker 4: my life, I started really putting a lot of time
23:51
Speaker 4: in it, and then I found this untapped energy, if
23:56
Speaker 4: you will. Then when it came to competitiveness, when I
23:59
Speaker 4: heard I heard sea Biscuit had a complex that the
24:05
Speaker 4: writer he would kind of easing back to let the
24:10
Speaker 4: other horse go back, and when the horse got in
24:11
Speaker 4: front of him the horse, Sea Biscuit would go ape
24:14
Speaker 4: shit and just smoke the hor When I heard that analogy,
24:18
Speaker 4: I connected with that, like to play somebody better than
24:22
Speaker 4: you actually gets you to play better, and it makes
24:25
Speaker 4: you a more tentative, more locked you ever hear about
24:29
Speaker 4: when you take a sense, the other sense gets heightened.
24:32
Speaker 4: I swear when I would play people that were bigger
24:33
Speaker 4: than me, or better than me, or I consider better
24:35
Speaker 4: than me. It activated that. And then I got into
24:40
Speaker 4: the league and the league was a bully league, and yeah, man,
24:44
Speaker 4: coming from Chicago, everybody pulling up on you wanting the
24:47
Speaker 4: hoop and the crate in the alley and this gym
24:50
Speaker 4: and on this whatever. So you instill that in it
24:53
Speaker 4: put me in the league, and then say that I
24:55
Speaker 4: can't do something. So I was like, man, I'm going
24:57
Speaker 4: to prove all y'all wrong, y'all for the you know
24:59
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I told everybody the draft when she
25:02
Speaker 4: and Stack was cracking jokes on me, man in front
25:05
Speaker 4: of about like fifty niggas, They're like, nigga, should take
25:07
Speaker 4: your ass to college. Man, I say, nigga, I'm finna
25:09
Speaker 4: be better than all y'all niggas. Niggas live. I'm the
25:15
Speaker 4: only one that left me and Scotty Thurman. Scotty Thurton,
25:18
Speaker 4: I don't know if you notice, kid from Arkansas used
25:20
Speaker 4: to shoot the long ball. He was like, hey, they
25:23
Speaker 4: fucking with your cat there. Now, young fall he was
25:24
Speaker 4: country man. They now young felt. But yeah, I've always
25:28
Speaker 4: been super competitive and my mindset. Man, it's gotta be
25:32
Speaker 4: always saying one of the ones is me or you.
25:34
Speaker 4: It's got to be you can't be me, you know
25:36
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
25:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard you did that to Scottie Pipping too.
25:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got two. I was young though, I was
25:43
Speaker 4: junking wild. Oh. When I got Chicago, I moved in
25:47
Speaker 4: a certain certain area off the west side called k Town. Yeah.
25:52
Speaker 4: K Town got all these different streets in these different
25:54
Speaker 4: areas and uh yeah, they wrapped different places. You know
25:58
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Gd's over here, Vice Stoy's over here, Uh,
26:01
Speaker 4: Kobra's over here, and you got to know how to
26:04
Speaker 4: Latin King's over here. You gotta know how to go
26:06
Speaker 4: through that, right. And then once I figured that out, Bro,
26:10
Speaker 4: you you know you're moving, and you know a lot
26:12
Speaker 4: of the guys you move with you moved. How you moving? Yeah? Yeah, man,
26:16
Speaker 4: Scotti Pippy got some ship and I don't know what
26:19
Speaker 4: he thought, yeah, but yeah, I quick, quickly, you know,
26:25
Speaker 4: got him to understand where he was. But that wasn't
26:28
Speaker 4: a good moment for me because I felt like, you know,
26:31
Speaker 4: when you come into an NBA said, and you don't
26:33
Speaker 4: want to be rowdy. Grover, let us come in there,
26:36
Speaker 4: and who as soon as we got into that, Grover
26:38
Speaker 4: tried to kick us out. Guys, you want to kicked
26:40
Speaker 4: out into a whole nother thing. I knew the guys
26:43
Speaker 4: Carl Harris is and if Carl Harris went in there,
26:45
Speaker 4: who's the street guy from the South Side. If Carl
26:47
Speaker 4: Harris won in there would have been all bad. But
26:49
Speaker 4: I'm glad he was in there. And then it's even
26:51
Speaker 4: more crazy to that Jeff Isaiah Thomas in the corner
26:55
Speaker 4: watching all this, And that's that's where I got the
26:57
Speaker 4: jewels from. I seen Zeke z He pulled me to
26:59
Speaker 4: the U because I ain't no. Zeke's from the West Side,
27:02
Speaker 4: like he was. You know what I'm saying, He's super
27:04
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He's man, Zeke super tact
27:07
Speaker 4: plugged into the West Side. So the shit there talk
27:10
Speaker 4: to him. I talked to him about three hours, and
27:12
Speaker 4: after that three hours, I knew exactly what I was doing.
27:15
Speaker 4: Straight up. You got a story like that with ja
27:17
Speaker 4: A right too, right when y'all play the bulls and
27:19
Speaker 4: he was talking to Jordan and Joe Jay all had
27:22
Speaker 4: to tell you that Hey, Okay, chill out, bro, you
27:25
Speaker 4: fit the turny up man, Jeff. You know this, man,
27:28
Speaker 4: when you play a guy dog or you play somebody
27:30
Speaker 4: that you you look up to and you're not watching
27:35
Speaker 4: enough film to know that this guy is better than you,
27:37
Speaker 4: but you still have confidence in yourself. It was kind
27:39
Speaker 4: of like that Mike them, what this bullying niggas man
27:42
Speaker 4: pressing up ninety four feet zig zaggy? They getting it,
27:46
Speaker 4: then they hand checking it. Refs ain't calling it so
27:49
Speaker 4: on a young guy like t here grad Te Hill,
27:52
Speaker 4: Jeff really got to know how to handle it because
27:54
Speaker 4: you're really dealing with forcing right right right. If the
27:57
Speaker 4: ref ain't calling it, Bro, you gotta you gotta deal
27:59
Speaker 4: with yourself. I mean that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy.
28:05
Speaker 4: You say that because that's what the bulls was doing. Nothing.
28:07
Speaker 4: So we we learned that and then start to implement
28:09
Speaker 4: on the young guys. No ship, real ship, But yeah,
28:11
Speaker 4: that was that was the same way. But just like
28:14
Speaker 4: how you you learn that makes you better that that
28:17
Speaker 4: that that kind of headache that you got to deal
28:19
Speaker 4: with you like holy ship. The first time I'm happy
28:21
Speaker 4: you in you and you in big eyes right second
28:23
Speaker 4: time you go ship third time. Now you ain't tripping,
28:27
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's for sure, You're
28:29
Speaker 4: just But yeah, me and Jyard was in there and
28:32
Speaker 4: and and Mike then was just on some bully ship
28:34
Speaker 4: and I was having a decent ass game. I'm just
28:37
Speaker 4: seeing my friend. He had just gotten too a car accident.
28:39
Speaker 4: I didn't really get much sleep. We was on the
28:41
Speaker 4: back to back. When I landed, I went straight to
28:43
Speaker 4: the hospital. I sat there all night winning and uh man,
28:47
Speaker 4: it was just hard to see Feels in there with
28:49
Speaker 4: the dame with the halo on his neck. Yeah, and
28:52
Speaker 4: I was like, damn. And then I was really effective
28:55
Speaker 4: and I came back to the hotel. I had to
28:57
Speaker 4: go right to the to the the ring and ship,
29:00
Speaker 4: you know, first bus and all that shit. So I
29:03
Speaker 4: was over there super early, so I was super inspired,
29:05
Speaker 4: but I was running off fumes. I didn't have no
29:07
Speaker 4: sleep that night. Had the whole west side on the
29:09
Speaker 4: whole left side of that motherfucker. So I felt, yeah,
29:13
Speaker 4: I was in I had a great night, but yeah,
29:15
Speaker 4: just just just man. As soon as I started feeling good, man,
29:19
Speaker 4: I fucked that up. I fucked that up. It's a
29:23
Speaker 4: lot of ship. I didn't fuck up. I fucked that
29:24
Speaker 4: up because we had a chance to win that game,
29:27
Speaker 4: and I woke the beasts up. Dog and I ain't
29:28
Speaker 4: think that ship was real. So you see it like,
29:30
Speaker 4: oh shit, really really really really scared shit and he
29:37
Speaker 4: went look no bullshit, came down simple to all three
29:42
Speaker 4: five and once shot two free through like it was
29:46
Speaker 4: looked up. The nigga had like forty and life like
29:49
Speaker 4: twelve minutes. I was like, damn we sitting on the bench,
29:51
Speaker 4: was like, dare we nineteen? Then I looked at you
29:56
Speaker 4: know how you look at everybody, and everybody I told
30:00
Speaker 4: that nigga to shut up, Joe. That's how Jay y'all,
30:04
Speaker 4: y'all was like my dog to you know, it's okay,
30:06
Speaker 4: we're gonna get through it. At the end the bench,
30:08
Speaker 4: he was taking shoes off. I was like, my fuck man,
30:12
Speaker 4: it's all shut your heads, real mess. I see. I
30:18
Speaker 4: never shaid ship to join after that dog, real ship.
30:20
Speaker 4: I ain't say nothing. I remember that story, black cat,
30:22
Speaker 4: you're good, You're good, Okay, cool ball here and keep
30:25
Speaker 4: it moving straight up.
30:28
Speaker 3: Hey, you know it's funny.
30:29
Speaker 4: Uh.
30:30
Speaker 1: Jeff always spoke very very very highly of that Celtics
30:33
Speaker 1: backcourt defense and you just talking about every Bradley reaching
30:36
Speaker 1: about how you know what I'm saying, he had to
30:37
Speaker 1: go down to the g le d to wake up.
30:39
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we're giving people honor like
30:41
Speaker 1: that because I feel like guys like Drew Holiday now
30:43
Speaker 1: that they getting their praise that they deserve. You talk
30:45
Speaker 1: about the real defense, like you said, would be a
30:47
Speaker 1: nightmare matchup for you were dough and then you talk
30:49
Speaker 1: about a b It was just interesting to hear you
30:51
Speaker 1: say that his hot praise for him?
30:52
Speaker 2: Nah man them too.
30:54
Speaker 5: They had ticket that got up on screens and then.
30:57
Speaker 2: They had perk. He didn't get all the way up.
31:00
Speaker 3: He was physical.
31:01
Speaker 5: You had them two dudes, bro, they are ninety four
31:04
Speaker 5: feet you and then Aby Bradley took everything personal. I
31:07
Speaker 5: remember one game we played him. It was my second year.
31:11
Speaker 5: Rondo was out and he started at point guard. I
31:13
Speaker 5: think it's his first start, and I kind of embarrassed
31:16
Speaker 5: him a little bit. I went by dunk dunk and
31:18
Speaker 5: stole the ball from a bunch of times. And the
31:20
Speaker 5: next time he played me, he was like, yeah, what's up?
31:22
Speaker 4: And I was like what.
31:24
Speaker 2: I was like, he's sad, you know all kill him, bro,
31:27
Speaker 2: he was guarding me for turning.
31:30
Speaker 5: I pass the Kurt messing with him real now, for real,
31:35
Speaker 5: he was serious.
31:36
Speaker 4: Aby Bradley's feet it was probably similar to like ushers
31:40
Speaker 4: and Michael Jackson's, like he had the quickest feet. He
31:42
Speaker 4: was normally when you get hit, if you and Jeff
31:46
Speaker 4: t right now was in the pick and roll, and
31:48
Speaker 4: Broke came up and said, a pick on you. If
31:50
Speaker 4: he hit any part of your of your leg, You're
31:53
Speaker 4: you're gonna turn. You're just gonna turn out. That's just
31:57
Speaker 4: what it is. Aby Bradley was the only guy that
32:00
Speaker 4: I knew that got his shoulder right over yours, got
32:02
Speaker 4: his feet over there, he would and he would like
32:04
Speaker 4: them chili sauce. Bro, he got highlights on your sue
32:09
Speaker 4: doing that. Listen, listen, hell it did he It wasn't
32:13
Speaker 4: he poking. And you know when the guard bringing it up,
32:17
Speaker 4: you know, motherfucker bringing up he ain't really thinking about
32:20
Speaker 4: the poking all that, because you're calling the plate trying
32:22
Speaker 4: to see where that motherfucker's in your in your cavity.
32:25
Speaker 4: You gotta you got to either chicken wing or man. Imagine.
32:28
Speaker 4: So when you when I heard you say that. When
32:30
Speaker 4: I saw that clip, I was like, yeah, that's right
32:33
Speaker 4: on to what they was on. They was on harassment
32:35
Speaker 4: and really trying to break the point guard down, like man,
32:38
Speaker 4: run him in the ground. So they got to bring
32:40
Speaker 4: the backup and then we're gonna run him in the ground.
32:42
Speaker 4: And that was our whole Our whole plan was to
32:45
Speaker 4: outwork you as a team. That was a physician position.
32:48
Speaker 5: I was tripling above playing one on him and it's
32:50
Speaker 5: a time out, you know, TV Gord and getting so.
32:53
Speaker 4: Loud y'all stop. He's still right there in your face.
32:57
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to beaty looking you know here.
32:59
Speaker 4: The whistle them to just them too, like ya ya go.
33:03
Speaker 4: They playing one.
33:06
Speaker 2: Over here, ship like I can't keep sucking saying nothing
33:10
Speaker 2: else to him now.
33:11
Speaker 3: He was serious, Who you.
33:12
Speaker 4: Lik in the league against guards? Right now?
33:14
Speaker 5: Man?
33:15
Speaker 4: You got a favorite? You got favorite guards? You like?
33:17
Speaker 5: Favorite point guard probably is uh Jaylen Bronson right now,
33:21
Speaker 5: big body code.
33:23
Speaker 2: Don't come up when he's a little kid, bro his development.
33:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to see him get to who he was
33:27
Speaker 5: like being at Villanova, I never thought he would be
33:30
Speaker 5: this player.
33:30
Speaker 2: And then to see where he is now, knowing his dad,
33:33
Speaker 2: it's like.
33:34
Speaker 4: Damn when I saw it, when I saw a couple
33:36
Speaker 4: of times in Dallas, he would take over games and
33:40
Speaker 4: then kind of come off it, you know, because you
33:42
Speaker 4: couldn't he wouldn't go fourth throttle. But you saw the glimpses. Yeah,
33:46
Speaker 4: because for a long time they was trying to get
33:48
Speaker 4: rid of the mid range, women, the mid range, and
33:51
Speaker 4: just diagnostics at least in data. That's not a good one.
33:54
Speaker 4: Shoot at the end of day. Make it that, you know.
33:56
Speaker 4: And then I think Houston fucked that whole thing up
33:58
Speaker 4: when they came Dan Moorey came in to really run. Yeah. Yeah,
34:02
Speaker 4: so I say that. I say that to set up that.
34:05
Speaker 4: I felt like, man, he you start to see it
34:08
Speaker 4: with the mid ranger and then he just accepted that, Yeah,
34:11
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go mid range. I don't want to
34:13
Speaker 4: if I got to stand still three cool And then
34:15
Speaker 4: to put all that together, bro, you know, the most
34:19
Speaker 4: I wanna say disrespected, but it's probably the most underrated
34:23
Speaker 4: thing in our league. Development Nah for sure. Man, don't
34:26
Speaker 4: nobody developing young boys no more? Man? And if so,
34:29
Speaker 4: you got one trainer training a tall guy, training a center,
34:33
Speaker 4: a forward and a guard the same fucking way, Bro.
34:36
Speaker 2: That's because they eliminated all the old hiss Bro.
34:40
Speaker 4: The moves looked the same. Bro. Like, right now, I
34:43
Speaker 4: already know a young boy gonna get me an in
34:45
Speaker 4: and out and he's gonna cross it. If he crossed,
34:47
Speaker 4: he probably gonna step back left because you're already over.
34:49
Speaker 4: If he ain't doing that, he's doing the heads and
34:51
Speaker 4: all this. It's like I'm watching the mood patterns be
34:54
Speaker 4: so similar that I don't see nothing coming out of that.
34:57
Speaker 4: I don't see nothing. So then I jumped in and
34:59
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go see who Check
35:02
Speaker 4: invited me to come see and work out. One day.
35:04
Speaker 4: I went to go see check workout. I see his
35:06
Speaker 4: whole workout where he was working out on. Tatum was
35:08
Speaker 4: working on Kawhi was working on for brunts and work
35:12
Speaker 4: and I was just like, nah, man, you gotta you
35:15
Speaker 4: gotta customize on package. You got a customize on bag.
35:19
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's too it's man, the
35:21
Speaker 4: bag looks similar throughout all of it, you know what
35:23
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
35:24
Speaker 3: And that's real.
35:25
Speaker 1: Like you said, you can look at people with that game,
35:27
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I know who he trying to win
35:28
Speaker 1: the off season.
35:29
Speaker 4: I hate to say that, even though I don't know
35:31
Speaker 4: the trainer. Yeah, I'll see it look similar, you know
35:34
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And then that
35:36
Speaker 4: would bring you back to oh yeah, yeah, yeah they
35:38
Speaker 4: do got the same one. Oh yeah they do. Uh
35:41
Speaker 4: that type of thing.
35:42
Speaker 1: So you talk about the mid range, you talk about
35:44
Speaker 1: the guards in the league, you talk about SGA going
35:47
Speaker 1: crazy with the vision, and then you gotta talk about
35:49
Speaker 1: looks Man, the house you built, the young guy in
35:51
Speaker 1: there reviving it.
35:53
Speaker 2: Ae Man, nasty?
35:55
Speaker 1: How was that man for you to be the best
35:56
Speaker 1: player at Tiple with history, to see the researchers with
35:58
Speaker 1: young AE with a similar mindset.
36:00
Speaker 3: With it like a work like? How was that to
36:02
Speaker 3: like enjoy?
36:03
Speaker 4: I love ants gold Man, like his I like his
36:06
Speaker 4: yesterdyear demeanor. Man, you know, I thought, I don't mind
36:10
Speaker 4: order all the being cool because you know, like you said,
36:13
Speaker 4: you know, you know, Gordon, you got guys from Thattown
36:15
Speaker 4: that you fuck. We're right, y'all see each other's cool, right, Bro,
36:18
Speaker 4: It ain't cool to the point where going gonna let
36:20
Speaker 4: you scoring him now, or you're gonna let That's what
36:23
Speaker 4: I'm saying the ship started to look buddy buddy at
36:25
Speaker 4: one point. That's that's why it just didn't look like
36:28
Speaker 4: it was competitive well what I was used to seeing. So,
36:30
Speaker 4: you know what, I had to get off that this
36:32
Speaker 4: is a new generation and this is what the game
36:34
Speaker 4: looks like now. So I start to go in that direction.
36:37
Speaker 4: But man, I gotta I gotta say, bro, like, yeah,
36:44
Speaker 4: I enjoy competitiveness. I ain't enjoying guys or you know yeah,
36:49
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big part of it. Gaming
36:51
Speaker 4: ship is another big part of it. You know, I
36:54
Speaker 4: have never pulled up to a park and never seen
36:57
Speaker 4: anybody you pull up to the parking those too. You
37:00
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying straight push your ass and asking
37:05
Speaker 4: what I'll bust your ass for the first stretch I
37:09
Speaker 4: was trying. I'm the first stretch for I don't give
37:11
Speaker 4: a fuck what you did that? Fred I got you
37:13
Speaker 4: you coming in the post, my nigga, slow down. I
37:19
Speaker 4: can't even like right and grabow having nothing. I'm having
37:23
Speaker 4: them Isaac Lander didn't have no joke. I'm having a
37:26
Speaker 4: grandma like who bust? Who asks nigga? What we've gotta? Women?
37:30
Speaker 4: Drais got a women drais, Hey, they got the women here, dog,
37:35
Speaker 4: we go right to you know what I'm saying, right
37:37
Speaker 4: show down dog first like nothing, I don't I don't
37:41
Speaker 4: know you, ain't I ain't know you.
37:43
Speaker 6: Nigga, don't get to know you. Right, funk out of here.
37:47
Speaker 6: That's who asks nigga right turns my whole you asked
37:52
Speaker 6: you got all the shows? Bro, I bust your knees
37:56
Speaker 6: right here there. That is the specialized, the whole specials
38:01
Speaker 6: Like here you still, I'm gonna tell you what I do.
38:06
Speaker 6: I don't hoop, but I work out money through Friday.
38:10
Speaker 4: Just for if I got a little more fucker mouthing off,
38:13
Speaker 4: I could go up here. I can you know what
38:14
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I keep the dusk off just enough, but
38:16
Speaker 4: I'll be honest. I want to ashoot us to see
38:19
Speaker 4: if you're having the same issue. Bro. I don't really
38:23
Speaker 4: go and hoop and turn it up turn it up,
38:26
Speaker 4: because I already know that's gonna send me right. You
38:29
Speaker 4: don't have no place to put the hope many No,
38:31
Speaker 4: that's how I am. Like, how do you how do
38:33
Speaker 4: you turn off? To have you turned it off? Yeah?
38:35
Speaker 5: I turned it off on a gym back in Indy
38:38
Speaker 5: and we got a men's league.
38:39
Speaker 2: But I never play serious.
38:41
Speaker 4: Like you got playing fucking around.
38:43
Speaker 5: I just be trying to get stay in shape. And
38:46
Speaker 5: then like I played in the Big Three the other
38:48
Speaker 5: day and that moment happened that dude scored him. I
38:51
Speaker 5: was just chilling. He scored on me a couple of times.
38:53
Speaker 5: He's having a good day, and all of a sudden
38:55
Speaker 5: it flipped. I throwing the ball at him, and I
38:59
Speaker 5: was like, saving me. I'm a podcast. Now what am
39:02
Speaker 5: I doing?
39:02
Speaker 4: I gotta old nigga, you're a demon. Remember how you
39:05
Speaker 4: got the podcast, I'm saying, And embrace that bro, real ship,
39:09
Speaker 4: real ship. They be trying him at the gym. Hey listen,
39:13
Speaker 4: that's why you're going there. You're supposed to bust that
39:15
Speaker 4: much whoever the fuck that is. You bust his ass
39:18
Speaker 4: and kill his confidence right there. See, when we play,
39:22
Speaker 4: I won't ever have this problem out The small fucker
39:25
Speaker 4: want nobody. And when I see him, he gonna come with,
39:27
Speaker 4: oh man, I take it or it's gonna be regardless. Okay, cool,
39:32
Speaker 4: But it's different after you play a nigga and then
39:34
Speaker 4: you go in the mirror look at yourself, like damn
39:36
Speaker 4: I couldn't get a bucket on that motherfucker. And you're
39:38
Speaker 4: gonna look at them shoes like, man, these shoes are
39:40
Speaker 4: gonna start. And that's what I That's what I was
39:42
Speaker 4: going for. I'm here to destroy your inner confidence. But
39:45
Speaker 4: you ever say no ship like that? You real rod up?
39:49
Speaker 4: See how you looking at now? You down what you said?
39:51
Speaker 4: You got doubting? I'm ready, don't look ready, I'm ready
39:55
Speaker 4: on your voice is ready? What that means, I'm gonna
39:59
Speaker 4: kill you with them pulling? What that means? You got
40:00
Speaker 4: a referee? Shoot, get the quart ups, set the quarter up?
40:05
Speaker 4: What we doing, tennessee sept the court up? Hennessy all,
40:08
Speaker 4: we got right do a shot before we got them
40:11
Speaker 4: played too, nigga. Oh, that's that's I said, before we play.
40:15
Speaker 4: I'm ready right now. I'm ready right now too, nigga,
40:17
Speaker 4: he said, Now.
40:21
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here.
40:22
Speaker 4: Man.
40:22
Speaker 1: I would to talk about one of the best foint
40:23
Speaker 1: guards that does not get enough credit. And I think
40:26
Speaker 1: in this era he would have got as much love
40:28
Speaker 1: as he should deserve. Steph Mall Barry Man. I feel
40:30
Speaker 1: like he was in this era, dog, we would give
40:33
Speaker 1: him way more praise, like he's one of the ones
40:35
Speaker 1: from me always has been. But I fight in this
40:37
Speaker 1: league now, the way they let the guards go crazy
40:39
Speaker 1: they do. Man, he would go so crazy right now,
40:41
Speaker 1: y'all had one of the best one to tattles we
40:42
Speaker 1: ever seen.
40:43
Speaker 3: Man.
40:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, playing with Steph was dope. Man. Steph was a
40:45
Speaker 4: real friend too, yeah real Yeah. Yeah. I was friend
40:48
Speaker 4: with his brothers, you know. Shout to Dawn, Eric, Zach,
40:51
Speaker 4: all those guys, uh, Sebastian Fox, five thirty, all those guys. Yeah.
40:57
Speaker 4: I spen Corney Island earlier at seventeen team. Yeah. Uh
41:01
Speaker 4: so when we got together in Minnesota, it felt like
41:03
Speaker 4: this is what we wanted to do, and uh it
41:06
Speaker 4: made the game easy. You know, you're not playing with
41:07
Speaker 4: the guy that you fuck with, you know what I'm saying.
41:10
Speaker 4: You know your speed? And then Steph won them. He
41:12
Speaker 4: was an IQ guy. You know, I had. I had
41:14
Speaker 4: really good hands and he used to always be like, care,
41:17
Speaker 4: you better have your hands ready. You know what I'm saying,
41:20
Speaker 4: Just knowing that he was on orthodox with his passes
41:22
Speaker 4: and his timing. But bro Bro trained differently, you know
41:27
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He saw the world and the game differently,
41:30
Speaker 4: and when he played. I thought he did a great
41:33
Speaker 4: job of show showcasing that. You know, Steph. Steph had
41:38
Speaker 4: pieces from all the guards that we loved, the Rod Stricklands,
41:40
Speaker 4: the Kenny Anderson's, the Pearl Washington's right, he had all
41:43
Speaker 4: those pieces when you look at all guard played right,
41:46
Speaker 4: But then think about team intelligence. Yeah, a lot people
41:49
Speaker 4: don't tap in intelligence. A lot of people don't understand timing,
41:53
Speaker 4: what plays to call, what his whole variety of who
41:55
Speaker 4: here playing with and what what's the spread she for them? Like,
41:59
Speaker 4: you know, you could probably tap into this a little bit.
42:01
Speaker 4: But when guards, when you go through the guard play
42:04
Speaker 4: and you analyze what it takes to be a polished
42:07
Speaker 4: guard and not just polished on on the on the
42:09
Speaker 4: black top, but I'm talking about polished guard in the
42:11
Speaker 4: league and lead the team. Steph was one of those
42:14
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He looked up to Ai him.
42:17
Speaker 4: Ai had a bunch of you know, back and forth.
42:19
Speaker 4: I think Steve Fanzy jumped in there later on. So
42:22
Speaker 4: I should love to watch that. But Steph grew to
42:25
Speaker 4: on his own. I think once we got to Minnesota.
42:28
Speaker 4: You know, I think that you know, within himself, if
42:30
Speaker 4: you know anything about Steph has a really big personality,
42:33
Speaker 4: super New York, super CI. You know, he Coney Island,
42:36
Speaker 4: Brooklyn until he died. So when he came up and
42:40
Speaker 4: was on something like, yeah, I want to I'm finna
42:42
Speaker 4: go back there. I'm finna go back home. I'm finna,
42:44
Speaker 4: I'm finna go back home and try to do it ill.
42:47
Speaker 4: I was mad because I was being selfish and wanting
42:51
Speaker 4: us to go and rock and see what we can be.
42:53
Speaker 4: But then when I thought about it, I was like,
42:55
Speaker 4: I can't even be mad because you only get one
42:57
Speaker 4: chance at this ship and for you to be able
43:00
Speaker 4: to go to a franchise and you beat ahead of
43:02
Speaker 4: it and you run it and get the have say
43:04
Speaker 4: and put the pieces in there that you won't Ah, bro,
43:07
Speaker 4: I can't even be mad at you. Then he was
43:09
Speaker 4: talking like he had some vision and where he wanted
43:12
Speaker 4: to go, and we ended up sending him to Jersey,
43:14
Speaker 4: which was you know, not New York, but it was Jersey,
43:17
Speaker 4: and for him to go back there, he looked happier.
43:19
Speaker 4: He was around his family and he was in his setting.
43:22
Speaker 4: And then I kind of came off of like, Okay,
43:23
Speaker 4: he doing him, and then I didn't take it so personal,
43:26
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was just when he
43:28
Speaker 4: was on something like, oh I want to be in Minnesota, like, nah, nigga,
43:31
Speaker 4: you want to go do your own ship, which I
43:33
Speaker 4: can respect, and yeah, shout the stuff. Man. It was
43:36
Speaker 4: a good time when it was good. Hate then when
43:39
Speaker 4: you get to tap into that potential to see what
43:40
Speaker 4: we could have been. But yeah, shout the stuff for
43:43
Speaker 4: that man. Underrated twenty eight for sure. Yeah, man, just
43:46
Speaker 4: spoken enough.
43:47
Speaker 3: Bro.
43:48
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what too, man? You know the league, man,
43:51
Speaker 4: what's your story and how you come through and things
43:54
Speaker 4: that follow you. Yeah, man, they put all that on
43:59
Speaker 4: you. You know what I'm saying, if you got in trouble
44:01
Speaker 4: abn C or you you know, I say he did
44:05
Speaker 4: anything to fuck the game off or whatever, But I
44:07
Speaker 4: know his situations in the Knicks and that whole tobacco
44:11
Speaker 4: in high that whole played out, and then him having
44:13
Speaker 4: to go to China and ship like Steph should have
44:14
Speaker 4: never had to go to China, you know what I'm saying.
44:16
Speaker 4: Stefan Marlborough had to go to China's crazy, but showing
44:20
Speaker 4: to his true brilliance, Man, he goes over there, he
44:23
Speaker 4: takes over the fucking league. He becomes what we all
44:26
Speaker 4: know him to be, the great spirit that he is,
44:28
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And he went over there
44:30
Speaker 4: and made the China League popular to where players go
44:34
Speaker 4: over there and play. Now, I don't know if they're
44:36
Speaker 4: gonna go play after seeing the young boys sleeping in
44:38
Speaker 4: the fucking lobby.
44:39
Speaker 2: That was that crazy.
44:42
Speaker 4: Listen, we talk about the NBA and these different leagues.
44:45
Speaker 4: The league is I say this, it's professional. You never
44:50
Speaker 4: have a guy in none of those aspects. And then too,
44:53
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, one, where's your agent and where's your teammates?
44:57
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I thought. If you sleeping in
44:59
Speaker 4: the lobby, where the where's your other teammate? You know
45:01
Speaker 4: what I'm saying? And who's not speaking of you? Whole
45:04
Speaker 4: another conversation, I say, But yeah, shout shout to shout
45:08
Speaker 4: to Steph doing that. Man, No, no, no, I say, the
45:10
Speaker 4: young fella doing that. But I was just going back
45:12
Speaker 4: to Steph and being able to making China popular and
45:15
Speaker 4: all that ship. But yeah, Steph was one of them.
45:18
Speaker 4: Question Marshall, what what could have been? You know what
45:20
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
45:21
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, man, last fan question
45:23
Speaker 1: for me man, one of my favorite pictures. One of
45:25
Speaker 1: the favorite passes oops of all time at an All
45:27
Speaker 1: Star joint. You A cole Man, one of my favorite
45:30
Speaker 1: things I've seen on the basketball court.
45:32
Speaker 3: Man.
45:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout to Bean. Yeah. When I when we when
45:40
Speaker 4: we was, when we was coming up, when I first
45:44
Speaker 4: met that crazy motherfucker being was super intense, super intense
45:48
Speaker 4: as a young kid. And then when we got to
45:51
Speaker 4: the All Star Game. It was in New York and
45:54
Speaker 4: they caught the East Oup first and We're sitting in
45:57
Speaker 4: the back and I'm boo, I am so, I am own,
46:02
Speaker 4: I'm ready to get out here. Man, fuck them, you know,
46:07
Speaker 4: like it was just I was ready, and it was
46:09
Speaker 4: the first time I saw him like nervous, and nobody
46:14
Speaker 4: else was paying attention to shit. You know, we the
46:16
Speaker 4: youngest here. It's it's a it's a it's a it's
46:19
Speaker 4: actually a clip. They don't play the whole clip, but
46:21
Speaker 4: they play a piece of like, yeah, motherfucker, were at
46:23
Speaker 4: the Old Star Game. Nigga were at the Old Star Game.
46:26
Speaker 4: Nigga not dappy, you see. And I'm in the back
46:28
Speaker 4: like this a nigga, you ready, Nigga, We ain here.
46:31
Speaker 4: We ain't here now now death and he like, yeah, yeah,
46:34
Speaker 4: we at the hoosh, like, nigga, get your gas up. Hey, nigga,
46:38
Speaker 4: we going at this nigga because they was already puffing
46:40
Speaker 4: him and Mike nigga fuck him. We get out here.
46:42
Speaker 4: I'm looking for you. Be ready, he said, all right, cool,
46:45
Speaker 4: and I'll be Damn. I'm talking about the second player
46:47
Speaker 4: in the game, third play Boo boom. I came out
46:49
Speaker 4: to it on the left side and I looked up.
46:50
Speaker 4: I just put it right in the middle of the
46:52
Speaker 4: realm and where he was coming for that time. That
46:54
Speaker 4: perfectly well, this nigga jumps so motherfucking high. And when
46:58
Speaker 4: I talk about that, Vince Carter moment bought cob asses.
47:01
Speaker 4: I watched it from my perspective. I threw it, so
47:05
Speaker 4: I watched him just we dunked that motherfuckers already came out.
47:11
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I was. I was on some
47:15
Speaker 4: nigga ship. He was on some like let's be professional, man,
47:18
Speaker 4: fuck that man, fuck, let's let's get it. So that
47:21
Speaker 4: energy coming out playing. Yeah, that was a magical game
47:27
Speaker 4: because MJ was looking for it too, and he wanted
47:29
Speaker 4: all smoke, throwing his hand licking his fingers and ship.
47:33
Speaker 4: It was on him, him, him, the demon came out
47:35
Speaker 4: of He was in massive square, you know he you know,
47:38
Speaker 4: he really activate when in there right oh man, it
47:41
Speaker 4: was no bigger stage than center stage at MSG and
47:45
Speaker 4: watching that going back and forth, MJ solidified himself, you
47:50
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But Cole establishing himself right there,
47:53
Speaker 4: you know as kamement.
47:55
Speaker 3: Man, what better way in his ticket?
47:58
Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ahead?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an MVP right there. Yeah, so you want
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Speaker 5: the MVP top seventy five. You did them the everything
48:06
Speaker 5: you could do in basketball, Bro, to trans like, you know,
48:10
Speaker 5: transition to doing podcasts and being more open, like because
48:13
Speaker 5: me knowing you when you play, you was the best teammate.
48:16
Speaker 5: My brother told me you the ultimate teammate. Everybody in
48:18
Speaker 5: Minnesota told me you was the ultimate teammate, the best
48:20
Speaker 5: bet you can have. But you never talked about players
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Speaker 5: or nobody like that. To see you show love to
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Speaker 5: young guys now, it's different, bro, Like most of the
48:30
Speaker 5: old heads that we used to say, Like with old
48:31
Speaker 5: heads when I used to watch, they would talk crazy
48:33
Speaker 5: about the young guys are.
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Speaker 2: They getting this money?
48:35
Speaker 4: They don't play?
48:36
Speaker 2: And then you come in you like, yeah, I love.
48:38
Speaker 4: A yeah to put a lot of light on him. Yeah,
48:43
Speaker 4: well think about this, guys, real shit when you play Man. Man,
48:51
Speaker 4: At least for me, I couldn't playing that gray area. Yeah,
48:55
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Even though I mean Chouncey
48:56
Speaker 4: Billups Toronto, lou Shee Wallace, these are my personal friends,
49:00
Speaker 4: and I understood what it was when we all played.
49:03
Speaker 4: So you know, when I played Man, I locked into
49:08
Speaker 4: who was rolling with me? And if you notice, I
49:10
Speaker 4: never really fragnized with it the other side. I dapt
49:14
Speaker 4: you say, what up? But it was never like a
49:16
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, unless I really really never
49:18
Speaker 4: That was probably maybe one or two a handful of
49:20
Speaker 4: guys I count on one hand, right, So when it
49:23
Speaker 4: came to make a jump to poadcasting and stuff, I
49:27
Speaker 4: thought those experiences of being able to share some of
49:30
Speaker 4: those stories and you know the fact that I have
49:33
Speaker 4: never sat back and had a real conversation with you
49:37
Speaker 4: before we got in here to let you know my
49:39
Speaker 4: respects towards you, and when I was a fan of
49:42
Speaker 4: yours and your body of work, and the reason why
49:44
Speaker 4: I was growling it, I ain't growled at everybody ain't
49:46
Speaker 4: no manin no, ain't no nigga ever gonna come back
49:48
Speaker 4: up and like man Kevin and im growded than me.
49:50
Speaker 4: I'm only doing that the niggas that I got, you
49:52
Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. So I had a certain level
49:54
Speaker 4: of respect for you, so to come on here just
49:57
Speaker 4: feel me. You know, I'm saying. Let them know that man,
49:59
Speaker 4: not only that fuck with you, but you know your
50:00
Speaker 4: little brother when he came in Brooklyn and cuffed them
50:02
Speaker 4: like that was That's what this is. That's what to me,
50:05
Speaker 4: that's what the podcast brain is laying. It's for It's
50:09
Speaker 4: for me to be able to I took all this
50:10
Speaker 4: experience and let me just throw out these experiences. Hey man,
50:13
Speaker 4: this happened to me over here, This happened, and that's
50:15
Speaker 4: all it is for me to be able to make
50:19
Speaker 4: reference to things that I've been through to what these
50:22
Speaker 4: young guys are going through, to let them show that
50:24
Speaker 4: the parody is very similar. Bro. But you're thinking it's hard,
50:26
Speaker 4: bro shit, y'all ain't practicing, bro. Imagine having a practice.
50:30
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, imagine doing two days for thirty days.
50:32
Speaker 4: Y'all ain't so when I share some of this experiences
50:35
Speaker 4: only to bring it back to today's game, because I
50:38
Speaker 4: think today's game, the young boys think it a certain way.
50:40
Speaker 4: But man, Bro, but ten years ago it's a whole
50:44
Speaker 4: nother way and a whole nother way of style. So
50:47
Speaker 4: taking that greatness too, Bro, remember this about yourself. You know,
50:51
Speaker 4: when you went to wait for its, you became great there.
50:53
Speaker 4: You can't to lead. You established a greatness about yourself
50:55
Speaker 4: so much that you gotta brand now to where you
50:58
Speaker 4: got a podcast. You coming up here speaking on not
51:00
Speaker 4: just in the NBA experience, but IQ and articulating for
51:04
Speaker 4: your audience. Right, that's a greatness. It was no way
51:07
Speaker 4: I think, y'all, I was gonna come in here and
51:09
Speaker 4: see you two sixty five or overweight, looking like a bum.
51:12
Speaker 4: Note you know what I'm saying, as Bro, Because you
51:14
Speaker 4: got a greatness about you, so I would expect that
51:16
Speaker 4: when you walk off the court to have the same thing. Bro.
51:19
Speaker 4: I tried to dominate every point that I was on
51:22
Speaker 4: the court. Who's to say you put that up when
51:25
Speaker 4: you step off of it. You know, I just took
51:26
Speaker 4: that same image. I put it into something else. If
51:28
Speaker 4: you ask my partners at Contact Cartel, my partners they'll
51:32
Speaker 4: tell you how hard I go at that shit when
51:34
Speaker 4: we put out when when we put our shows together,
51:37
Speaker 4: I'm up all night. I don't use no cards, just
51:39
Speaker 4: all off my dome. I ripped and this is my
51:42
Speaker 4: This is my vision for the world and what I
51:44
Speaker 4: want to give them for. When we shoot I shoot
51:46
Speaker 4: it with p who's my real best friend in real life,
51:49
Speaker 4: and he's as crazy as they come. So y'all get
51:52
Speaker 4: to see the two guys who real best friends talk
51:55
Speaker 4: basketball in front of y'all, and so we you know,
51:57
Speaker 4: we clean it up as much as we can, but
51:59
Speaker 4: we like to be y'all selves. We dress how we
52:01
Speaker 4: fucking dress were coming here. You know what I'm saying,
52:03
Speaker 4: Like like all this, put a nigga in the box
52:05
Speaker 4: and have them talk like this and wind them up
52:07
Speaker 4: and then any when that dude that ship out of here.
52:10
Speaker 4: Fuck that niggas ain't doing that ship no more. Fire man, bro,
52:14
Speaker 4: you know what is from us, And that's why I
52:16
Speaker 4: love about y'all show y'all show fire because it's from y'all.
52:19
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I love how you came
52:20
Speaker 4: on here talking your ship. You know what I'm saying.
52:22
Speaker 4: I keep going, nah, thank you, Bro, I didn't want
52:25
Speaker 4: It's all good, Lord, And then you're gonna be careful
52:27
Speaker 4: on how you got up. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man,
52:30
Speaker 4: I ain't no bus driving my nigga. I'n some real
52:35
Speaker 4: ship for real. I wore twenty one because of you all.
52:37
Speaker 4: This real ship, Bro, that'st respect, that's respects. That's before
52:42
Speaker 4: you even probably start watching our probab when we first
52:44
Speaker 4: start talking. And they used to jone on me for
52:46
Speaker 4: being like the first five team power four And that's
52:49
Speaker 4: my favorite power for it, bros. The first face of
52:53
Speaker 4: what you saying, first face up four bro at five
52:56
Speaker 4: then bro like that. I called it the praying Manton Yeah,
52:59
Speaker 4: and I was built like this. So you've been this
53:02
Speaker 4: whole just side, your whole body, your whole life. Shout
53:04
Speaker 4: out to my grandma's side. No, you got sixteen and
53:12
Speaker 4: ten K sixteen ten? What's that mean? That was my
53:15
Speaker 4: status whole word sure in Indianapolis And I played with
53:19
Speaker 4: George too. Yeah, yeah, Well what the fuck is George
53:24
Speaker 4: Hill at these days?
53:25
Speaker 2: Antonio? You're on the far on.
53:29
Speaker 4: I saw that nigga got John thought he was that's George.
53:31
Speaker 4: That the Dreads, George Hill like skin, George Hell Yeah, yeah,
53:35
Speaker 4: my bad bad he ain't got no George Hill Arizona,
53:39
Speaker 4: George George here Yeah, George bad mother. Fuck George Hill,
53:41
Speaker 4: bad motherfuck too by Yeah talk ship Yeah, a little
53:45
Speaker 4: light skinned ass nigga Yeah, go fuck with g oh people. Man,
53:49
Speaker 4: we appreciate you for coming on though.
53:51
Speaker 1: Man, this is you know what I'm saying, one time
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Speaker 1: for the one time.
53:55
Speaker 4: That's what's up man, The.
53:57
Speaker 1: Ticket, anything, it's possible, It's possible, all right, man, this
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Speaker 1: is a blessing.
54:05
Speaker 4: Man.
54:05
Speaker 3: We had the legend blessings with his presence.
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Speaker 1: Man, my man's our concert going crazy, human pee, keep
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Speaker 1: it entertained and keep it authentic, you know what it is.
54:12
Speaker 1: Club five twenty Hennessy were about to go to dres
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Speaker 1: and had a real fun. We appreciate you rocking with us,
54:16
Speaker 1: Hennessey Arid. It's been a hell of a time. We're
54:18
Speaker 1: gonna catch you on the next time.
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Speaker 4: Well, y'all Yeah, five twenty