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The TWELVE Familes Who Control The World | Sam Fisher · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends. I'm your host, christ Throw. I'm a former
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  Speaker 1: Ruleries commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across
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  Speaker 1: eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port
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  Speaker 1: the t Shirt Podcast. Sam. How you doing mate?
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  Speaker 2: I'm all right mate, are you yes?
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  Speaker 1: I'm absolutely firing. I'm going to go out on a
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  Speaker 1: limb here. And so I think you're somewhere up north
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  Speaker 1: in Manchester way I am, yeah, yes, which part of
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  Speaker 1: which part of Manchester?
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  Speaker 2: It's actually in East Lancashire, but I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 2: too far from Manchester.
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  Speaker 1: East Lancashire. There's probably like a war, historic war between
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  Speaker 1: you and them in it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's lots which team support Chelsea Manchester.
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  Speaker 1: Mate, you're completely pucked. So first off, mate, cheers for
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  Speaker 1: supporting MI show and all that. That's that's always it's
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  Speaker 1: always amazing really that people want to listen to your ship,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's but then, but then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to give myself a bit of credit, I
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  Speaker 1: have worked a few things out, as you can probably tell. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it does though, you know, there's two ways of looking
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  Speaker 1: at this. Yes there is Shenanigan's going on in the world.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you've got old certain president there who's
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  Speaker 1: now back down on everything that he promised, the Epstein
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  Speaker 1: list Israel. You know, he's back mates with net and
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  Speaker 1: Yahoo again and did it. And none of that's going
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  Speaker 1: to change. That's all material world living in you know,
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  Speaker 1: the lower Chakras, the Sodom and Gomorah, the BT system.
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  Speaker 2: It's been the same since you know, timing memorial.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe not time immemorial, but certainly since man
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  Speaker 1: invented the wheel or fire. Perhaps things starting to take
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  Speaker 1: a different turn. And I find it fascinating to understand
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  Speaker 1: because I'm interested how they control the energy. And that
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  Speaker 1: brings me on to the other thing I was going
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  Speaker 1: to say is I'd say to anyone out they don't
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  Speaker 1: get too way down with all this because it can
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  Speaker 1: get depressing it. Just live your spiritual live your spiritual battle,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so so, mate, where do we start?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to tell us a bit about your
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  Speaker 1: book and what that's about?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Well, make my books about I basically blend sort
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  Speaker 2: of alternate history and what people will call conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 2: around a sort of a fictional narrative about a twenty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand year old immortal man that's battling a demon
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  Speaker 2: that's trying to bring in sort of it's trying to
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  Speaker 2: when the world basically and brings his bossing and control everything.
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  Speaker 2: He's sort of his journey through from the Atlantean period
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  Speaker 2: up to present day. So it features lots and lots
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  Speaker 2: of sort of historical events like the one hundred Years
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  Speaker 2: War or nine you know, up to nine eleven and beyond.
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  Speaker 1: What's the thing then when you say the Atlantean period,
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  Speaker 1: and excuse my ignorance, there's a lot of stuff, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know. Is this about like the Lost
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  Speaker 1: City of Atlantis or is it something completely different?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's where my like my novels start.
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  Speaker 2: But there's there's other sort of I firmly believe there
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  Speaker 2: was several sort of loss civilizations over the past sort
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  Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand years that
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  Speaker 2: have just been wiped out by some sort of cataclysm
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  Speaker 2: here and there. There's been like lost cities found all
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  Speaker 2: over the places, even well off the coast of Scotland
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  Speaker 2: that's believed to be well over sort of twenty thousand
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  Speaker 2: years old. There's ruins in the colon region of Russia.
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  Speaker 2: Pyramids been found there that no one talks about. No
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  Speaker 2: one talks about something that there's one in the europe
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  Speaker 2: Mountains that was discovered I think about about ten fifteen
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  Speaker 2: years ago, just completely by accident in the middle of nowhere,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And is Atlantis related to the Phoenicians that we hear
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  Speaker 1: about who later have become the Venetians who relate to
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  Speaker 1: the ancient European families that you speak, yes and no.
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  Speaker 2: The Atlantans they were more tied to Egypt, so they
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  Speaker 2: are in fact more tied sort of that sort of
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  Speaker 2: North African Middle Eastern area more than anything else. And
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  Speaker 2: they do tie into the Venetians later on the European
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  Speaker 2: sort of royal bloodlines. After I think they tracked back
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  Speaker 2: at the heck of a lot further more to the
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  Speaker 2: what's what people will call Hyperborea. I think more than
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  Speaker 2: anything else, all sides try and keep themselves or very
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  Speaker 2: very sort of the bloodline is very pure, if you
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  Speaker 2: get what I mean. They don't like, they don't like
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  Speaker 2: sort of branching out into the into what they will
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  Speaker 2: call common people. But yeah, yeah, like I said, the
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  Speaker 2: Atlanteans do sort of feed it feed into the Phoenetians.
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  Speaker 1: And this just to pick up on a point. But
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  Speaker 1: this is to their detriment, though, isn't it. When you
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  Speaker 1: see people like Prince Andrew when he gave a bysmal
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  Speaker 1: interview about his sexual misconduct and he actually thought people
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  Speaker 1: would believe that he didn't sweat because of the Falklands War,
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  Speaker 1: you could see they're not I don't think these bloodlines
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  Speaker 1: are that. It's a complicated one. They don't seem that smart.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not that they don't they're not that smart.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that they don't think we are. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: had a sort of a very very detrimental view of
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  Speaker 2: of us because because of the way they this the
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  Speaker 2: European bloodline see themselves more as divine more than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: And like like I was talking about Merrivek before, Yeah, Maryveck.
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  Speaker 2: The legends, so the legend goes, his mother was was
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  Speaker 2: raped by a fallen angel. Yeah, and this this is
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  Speaker 2: what's balled Meryveck in the first place, and it was
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  Speaker 2: essentially Nephelin. That's what that's what what the legend says.
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  Speaker 2: When you fast forward to Charlemagne, who was who was
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  Speaker 2: part of his blood line when he sort of effectively
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  Speaker 2: unified all of Europe and created the first sort of
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  Speaker 2: wholy Roman Empire. So the legend goes, he did that
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  Speaker 2: in the in the name of God, and the Vatic
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  Speaker 2: had actually sanctified it, made it, anointed him as the
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  Speaker 2: Holy the Emperor of the Holy Roman Church. Now this
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  Speaker 2: supposedly released the exile that that his blood line had
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  Speaker 2: going into heaven then, and this made them then divine supposedly,
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  Speaker 2: and this is this is I think that's their mentality.
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  Speaker 2: Mentality from that point, they see themselves as has been
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  Speaker 2: placed here by gods and have divine rule over as
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So they see themselves as
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  Speaker 2: better than us, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well we know that we you know, we are
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  Speaker 1: the useless eaters, aren't we.
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  Speaker 2: Well I wouldn't say that, no to them, we are
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  Speaker 2: to them, we are.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, I don't misunderstand me. I meant to them, right, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah yeah. I think in
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  Speaker 2: many in many ways, we're sort of we are actually
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  Speaker 2: kind of genetically superior to them because of the way
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  Speaker 2: they've been sort of trying to keep the bloodline. Just
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  Speaker 2: saying yeah, exactly. Yeah, they sort of battle deck themselves
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  Speaker 2: in a way. They've not been able to evolve anymore
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  Speaker 2: than than they have, and I think in part in
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  Speaker 2: part ways, I think I think that's probably why we
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  Speaker 2: had the all that, all that problem in well from
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty onwards when they were I think they were
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  Speaker 2: trying to sort of change our genetics in a way,
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  Speaker 2: if you get what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it must be a thing to
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  Speaker 1: knowingly bring out some shit that you know is going
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  Speaker 1: to absolutely I don't want to say the word, but
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  Speaker 1: people know what I'm getting at, you know, And yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to sort of get ahead of my selfish.
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  Speaker 1: So going back to the Atlantean thing, and let's come
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  Speaker 1: on and talk about the merchants, because I really you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the Holy Roman Empire and Charlemagne. Yeah, and my
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  Speaker 1: sort of understanding of the Catholicism, which is is that
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  Speaker 1: not the offshoot of the Holy Roman Empire, of the
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  Speaker 1: Roman Empire full stop.
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  Speaker 2: The Holy Roman Empire was more I can put it.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of it was more secular in a way,
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  Speaker 2: and it was it was kind of a precursors to Prottestantism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: during the time after after after Charlemagne, it was sort
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  Speaker 2: of like a tenuous sort of lines between them both,
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  Speaker 2: and then that sort of started falling about falling apart
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  Speaker 2: after the after the first lot of Crusades in the
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  Speaker 2: in the eleven hundreds, he started getting orders like the
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  Speaker 2: the Templars and the Teutonic Knights and the Hospitillias all
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  Speaker 2: all cropping up to like sort of the first shepherd
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  Speaker 2: people from from Europe into you know, into like the
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  Speaker 2: Middle East and everything else, and all the other merchants,
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  Speaker 2: and you start getting the kind of the sort of
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  Speaker 2: banking network being set up, and then it started it
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  Speaker 2: started falling apart after that. I think when when the
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  Speaker 2: Vatican started realizing that the amount of power that we're
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  Speaker 2: getting now when you when you start introducing the actual
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  Speaker 2: the Venetian merchants, which like your Mideaches, your Borges, your
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  Speaker 2: boy Gaze is your Palava, chinis Zino bembo, then they're
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  Speaker 2: they're like thet they began in i Ran and you
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  Speaker 2: sort of escape when when all the Muslims started taking
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  Speaker 2: over the whole of Arabia, they started pushing all of
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  Speaker 2: them out of Iron and out up into Europe. And
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  Speaker 2: that's how they got to Venice and got to you know,
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  Speaker 2: do you know in the first place. Now they started
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  Speaker 2: gathering a lot of power, selling you know, silk and
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  Speaker 2: very good ship builders as well, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So they started they started building all the ships from
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  Speaker 2: the merchants sort of going out into the med gathering
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  Speaker 2: all the power from there. But they sort of had
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  Speaker 2: a strong sort of kind of a cult sort of background,
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  Speaker 2: and I think part of part of what they were
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  Speaker 2: what they were trying to do when they started getting
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  Speaker 2: into getting into the vacant and they started getting their
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  Speaker 2: own pope, start getting their own family and into the
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  Speaker 2: paper scene ticking over was I think they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to as well as get the money from from the templars,
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  Speaker 2: they were also trying to get their knowledge, trying to
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  Speaker 2: get what they want what they had to forget what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. There's actually a pope called on Aureus heard
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  Speaker 2: and he wrote a green were in the in the
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  Speaker 2: in the eleven hundreds, and it's it's supposedly one of
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  Speaker 2: the most like complete sort of through out of rituals
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  Speaker 2: and and sort of summoning rituals and comesuring rituals that
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  Speaker 2: has been since since Solomon, since Solomon wrote his Hisletic
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  Speaker 2: Keys and Greater Keys, and this was this was a pope,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was actually both at the time when
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  Speaker 2: he wrote it. So all this, all this dark magic
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  Speaker 2: and corruption sort of stem from those days. They've got
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  Speaker 2: they've gone, they've gone for the temples, they've they've wiped
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  Speaker 2: them out in the thirteen hundreds. There were several things
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  Speaker 2: that happened in the thirteen hundreds. So it was the
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  Speaker 2: bat There was the like I said, there was a
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  Speaker 2: killing in the temples, the Jesuits were set up. There
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  Speaker 2: was the start of the Hundred Years War between Britain
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  Speaker 2: and France, which was a sort of a way of
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  Speaker 2: trying to trying to split this holy roping Roman Empire
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  Speaker 2: and sort of get the civil war going because they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to get the British to take the French crown. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately we lost obviously after about one hundred and one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen years, I think it lasted altogether. So
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  Speaker 2: we've had all that going on there, like the Black
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  Speaker 2: the Black Death, which was blamed on all the all
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  Speaker 2: the Jewish merchants who were living there. That's how they
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  Speaker 2: got them kicked out, they started stealing all their all
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  Speaker 2: their businesses, acquiring more and more and more and more
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  Speaker 2: more wealth, getting the banks even more and more powerful,
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  Speaker 2: and then there was just feuds of plenty basically from
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  Speaker 2: from that point onwards. They just had been until around
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  Speaker 2: i'd say around fifteen hundred sixteen hundred, and that's when
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  Speaker 2: we had the Savoys, which were one of the Venetian
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  Speaker 2: banking families, from their marrying into the Kraaks family, who
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  Speaker 2: was Swiss, and that's that sort of started linking the
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  Speaker 2: the well, the whole Roman Empire into into the Vaking again.
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  Speaker 2: That sort of made the truth from there, but it's
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  Speaker 2: sort of had sort of factions within the within the
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  Speaker 2: whole Roman Empire as well, which were like the Gavir
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  Speaker 2: Habsburg's and your Austro Hungarian Empire there they were sort
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  Speaker 2: of not very happy with it. And then we had
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  Speaker 2: the novels and another civil war between them both which
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  Speaker 2: lasted for another good, good, good couple of centuries. I
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  Speaker 2: mean the Brits, we've a guess Habsburgs we fought seven
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  Speaker 2: consecutive wars altogether right up until the round around seventeen
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  Speaker 2: twenty I think something like that, which was the Austrian
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  Speaker 2: War of Recession that split the Austro Hungarian Empire. After that, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these families have then just been basically just consolidating themselves
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  Speaker 2: and marrying into each other and taking each other's wealth
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  Speaker 2: with right and center.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's not mention the names of these families anymore,
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  Speaker 1: because I wasn't going to have to go and edit
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  Speaker 1: them all out. I mean, it's irrelevant anyway, because the
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  Speaker 1: you know, for Ducci, for Darcy, you know, no one's
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to remember it. So how does it relate
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  Speaker 1: then to the Phoenicians? What what? What's like? It's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a complex timeline, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: And I yeah, the Phoenicians they're sort of I mean
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  Speaker 3: they were they were again they were there were merchants
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  Speaker 3: as well, and they have their own sort of their
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  Speaker 3: their own clique inside inside.
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  Speaker 2: The Venetians sort of bankers as well. Yeah, they're all
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  Speaker 2: sort of one and the same if you were the mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Phoenicians, the Iranians, iraqis all that all around that area.
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  Speaker 2: They sort of found themselves being pushed out. So as
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  Speaker 2: soon as as soon as Mohammad started moving moving himself
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  Speaker 2: out and across across North Africa and into Spain and
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  Speaker 2: everywhere else. They sort of pushed them out and forced
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  Speaker 2: them into Europe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, When I look at people's facial structures, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do trying to. You do sort of jump to
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  Speaker 1: some conclude. They jump to conclude, you do draw certain
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  Speaker 1: conclusions like when I look at the popes, I just
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  Speaker 1: see merchants, you know, I look at people that have
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  Speaker 1: been hand picked for that rule when I and no,
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  Speaker 1: and I I, as you probably know from watching my show,
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  Speaker 1: I totally believe scripture is allegory. I do not believe
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  Speaker 1: these are actual historic events. And I think if you
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  Speaker 1: believe them, you know you're misguided. But what I think
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  Speaker 1: the merchants have done is they've adopted, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: just say certain religion as a total cover for their
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  Speaker 1: what has turned out to be a New World Order
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  Speaker 1: game plan. Now, there was something I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: say the full name, but there was something called the protocols.
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  Speaker 1: Some people will know what I'm talking about, right, and
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  Speaker 1: it to talk broad Northern It were a leg see
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  Speaker 1: that I said, not it was alleged it were it
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  Speaker 1: were Now, it was alleged that this was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the New world Order plan. It came from these, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the merchants, and then can I can I just finish?
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  Speaker 1: And then someone did a very good investigation. They decided
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  Speaker 1: they dissected it and they said, if this was a merchants,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have written this like this, they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: talked about themselves here like in third person. They And
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  Speaker 1: what that person concluded was, no, this was the European
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  Speaker 1: aristocracy who would recognized that the merchants were infiltrating everything,
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  Speaker 1: the banks, the palaces, the churches, They was corrupting everyone's
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  Speaker 1: morals and changing it into gold, you know, usery, and
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  Speaker 1: that the europe He and aristocracy, in an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: kind of leak this to the public, accidentally came up
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  Speaker 1: with this document called, you know, the one beginning with Pea.
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  Speaker 1: Had you heard anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it actually what I what I sort of
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  Speaker 2: narrowed it down to myself, was it it actually originated
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  Speaker 2: with the founder of the Full Society in Germany. So
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  Speaker 2: it is it is sort of kind of tied tied
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  Speaker 2: to the aristocracy. Yeah, you're right, you're kind of right there.
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  Speaker 2: It was very it was a very sort of very
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  Speaker 2: well educated in Eastern philosophy, Eastern mysticism, sort of other
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  Speaker 2: philosophies and whatnot, you know what I mean. Before he
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  Speaker 2: set up the Full Society, but it was also a
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  Speaker 2: massive anti Semite as well. He hated he hated sort
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  Speaker 2: of the well just just the wealth that they were
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  Speaker 2: they were accruing, you know, I think probably saw them
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  Speaker 2: as a threat. And then he sort of he passed it,
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  Speaker 2: based them on kind of sort of ideas that he
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  Speaker 2: got previously down the line, and then just sort of
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  Speaker 2: generated him from there, then passed them onto his prodigy,
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  Speaker 2: which was a certain s S leader, and he passed
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  Speaker 2: it on to their propagandist, if you get what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and they adapted them further and added some further. And
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  Speaker 2: then when they were defeated, a certain individual in America
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  Speaker 2: who founded a neo version of the of the sort
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  Speaker 2: of order and got caught by the FBI handed out
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  Speaker 2: pamphlets with it on. So then the FBI ended up
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  Speaker 2: getting hold of it, and then they've they've sort of
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  Speaker 2: adapted it ever since, and they used it to track
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  Speaker 2: and trace movements like that all over the world, and
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  Speaker 2: they adapted to sort of fit modern life. I've got
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  Speaker 2: there I've got version of it on the on the
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  Speaker 2: telegram page, and it comes with all the memo that
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  Speaker 2: the FBI have written about it and when they're changing
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  Speaker 2: it and how we're going to adapt it for the
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  Speaker 2: Internet and everything else. So yeah, it's it's a well
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  Speaker 2: used tool.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So the Thul Society you're saying, it was this
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  Speaker 1: chat Rudolph on Subotto Dwarf. He was a German, a
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  Speaker 1: coultist and people's a German cultists and people's group founded
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  Speaker 1: in Munich shortly after the war, named after a mythical
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  Speaker 1: northern country in Greek legend. So Thul was like, was
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  Speaker 1: it like some Homer the Vikings or something, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's it's linked to Hyperborea. It's link to
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  Speaker 2: the hyperboreal legends, which is kind of ironic considering that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: where most of them probably came from. But yeah, yeah
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: it was. You get you get things coming out of that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: like like real worship and stuff like that. Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Right, So hang on keep that in mind because this
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: is all fascinating. I can't help feeling like we're jumping
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: forward without uncovering the good bits. So you've got this
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: guy he started he was an occultist, so he he
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: understood like manipulating the energy, basically, dealing in energy, dealing
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: in in hidden hidden knowledge basically, and he recognized that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: let's just call it, you know, the money people in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Europe were, they was playing everybody and walking away with
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: all the gold and what how did his full society
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: relate to the Nazis? Then? Sorry, obviously there was a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: certain German painter who also.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was it's it's through Himdler more than
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: anything else people sort of from from what, from from
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: what I could gather, the Austrian painter was basically just
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the mouthpiece for what was behind him, and the people
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: behind him, like Boman Mueller in himlay were but were
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: basically the brains behind the operation. If you think of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the best comparison I can think of his Blair and Brown.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Whereas Brown didn't, Brown have the brains, but not the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: sort of charisma to sort of interact with the you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with the public, whereas Blade did. And that's why they
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: made supposedly such a good combination Blair. Blair didn't have
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the brains, but he had the He had the charisma
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and the sort of in order to speak to speak
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to people, if you get what I mean, And him
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was the same. It was a fantastic.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Random one for you. Then do you remember a low
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and low Yeah? Yeah, and in this tiny French occupied
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: village and that frequented this this winery or this this
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: which is very careful cafe bar and the two Germans
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: were the Germans were represented by one little chat with
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: piggy glasses and one bumbling buffoon, wasn't.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, General Klinkhoff, weren't I think?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm just wondering if that was subtle,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, subtle programming there, but that they were
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: referencing two other characters.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well one of the one of the speeches
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: that the ostriing Pa gave at one point, he said
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that it was just after the Reichstag fire and he well,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: one of the lines he gave was that they were
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: going to find out who did it, and no one
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was above the law, not even the fury, and the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: law the law in Germany. Now was was the Gestapo?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Now who founded the Gestapo? It was it was Himley,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It was him who founded the Gestapo, and he founded
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the the s S and he was heading it at
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the time. He actually then passed it on to Hanrik
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Muller later on down the line to run it for
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: in Boss to concentrate it on the ss anderby that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: we're like the sort of the archaeological sort of wing
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: of that of that organization. And they went out all
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: over the place looking for a cult objects everywhere. Look
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: at the Ark of the Covenant, the Spirit of Destiny,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and they're working for the Tablets of Destiny at one
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: point as well. I mean it was it was more
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: obsessed with the ecult than than mustache Man. He really was.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: The problem is, this is where it gets confusing, because
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: when you just look at Hollywood's version. I mean, Hollywood
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: loves spinning the fucking narrative, don't they. I mean, I'm
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: just saying in a previous live show, leave the poor
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Germans alone. It's not doing anyone any good to keep
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: rekindling what essentially is. It's a narrative, doesn't mean it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: strictly true. I think we're all kind of getting our
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: heads around that now. And here's the thing. The waters
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get modded because I did a show the other day
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: about the Arc of the Covenant. The arc of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Covenant is a bone in the skull. It's called the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: verier fucking Turkeia something or whatever, and it's the area
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of your skull which houses the peturatory gland. The peturitary
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is the gland that triggers your nervous system, so your
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: tree of life as it were. And it's your thoughts
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: which are dictated by your pineel, which is whether you're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: enlightened or whether you live in the material matrix, which
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: then right to the peturitary in this clever carn of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Taurus field that trigger your behavior. So the arc of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the Covenant, which actually looks like two cherubim, you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: two angels leaning towards each other. Hence the depiction in
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: scripture with the arc of Covenant. It houses is your rules,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: your stone tablets, those that you live by, right, And
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it's crazy when you see the lengths that Holly would
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: have gone to to try to get people to think
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that Moses was real. And the Ark of the Covenant
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is out there somewhere. They they've even had people in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: history claim to have found it in all of.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That several in some way, in some ways, you're right, well,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: there is there is kind of sort of I think
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in a lot it's like right with a grail if
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you look at the grail's but it's more the it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: more the search for the grail than the actual grail itself,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: if you get what I mean. That is the real
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: sort of the real story and how it changes, how
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it changes the man. And by the time you felt
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you supposedly find the grail, you're actually finding yourself and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: your yourself and that makes you immortal. But then there's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: there's other other things that have been found here and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: there that it's like could act with the grail on
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: about Like there's that there's that glass in that you're
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: found in Rome. I don't know if you've you've ever
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: seen it. It's like red glass, but since your poor
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: liquid in it, it changes color. Yeah. This this has
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: been around for thousands of thousands of years, and it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: called magical and everything else, and people believe that was
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a great At one point, I.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Used to have this magic glass myself. Actually, Yeah, there
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: were a pint glass, right, and you filled it with
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: his amber liquid and then it just disappeared.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: It was Yeah, I had a few of those, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I've had a few. Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Can I just come in there and say semen semen retention.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, classroom, going down, going down and back. Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the ways folks, if you if
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you're out there and you want to boost your spiritual
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: connection and get your KUNDERLINI really like firing is is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to stop stop throwing it all about. If that makes sense.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as its three days to go down, go
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: down your spine, and then he gets gets your sacred
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of you back. Yes, three days and
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: then goes back up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. I've heard various different interpretations and I can't personally
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: testify to. All I can tell you is I am physically, biologically,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: chemically different. When I live my life with a bit
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of humility, humbleness and fruit frugality. When it comes to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the you know the thing we was just talking like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I've almost completely cut that out my life, it ceases
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to be a factor. I used to think it was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: inevitable that you had urges and that as a man,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you had to satisfy him. So that's not true. They
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: completely go away when you get your fucking head together
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and you get into the ship that I'm talking about.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: And does that free up your life? Oh? By fuck
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it does. It literally takes a whole load of guilt,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and it has been alleged that that's the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Holy Grail's like is your cup full or just keep
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: throwing it about and fucking empty? Fascinating how these you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: all roads kind of lead to Rome in these chats.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but with a lot of the Bible
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is it is sort of it is sort of allegorical
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: explanations of sometimes natural processes. But then there's also kind
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: of word of mouth sort of ancient legends that have
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: been sort of passed on as well. And of course
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: some some bits have been sort of embellished and sort
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of you know, emblazoned, you know, with with with fanfare,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: but there's there's still sort of kind of a better
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: basis for some of those stories in there, that there
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: were actual real events that have been relaid on and
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: relaid on like until they were written down. Because there's
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: there's certain things that they fact they've found all all
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the places that kind of points are these like certain
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: things not everything obviously, but.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I totally get what you're saying, and I think part
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm not, you know, sort of taking a stance here,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but I would also want to suggest that when you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: live in an echo chamber. Everything echoes back at you. Right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So if you believe that, like, for example, I don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: believe this is the first time round for human civilization.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: It's not right or civilization. Right. I also don't believe
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that with that we come out of Africa like forty
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: thousand year ago, right. I think I think our actual
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: heritage as the human species, whatever we were, goes back billions, right,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: just for the sheer fact change is so subtle and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: incremental in US. You know, you can go back ten
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: thousand years we looked exactly like this. So some outcome
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we only come out of Africa and we were black
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: with frizzy air forty thousand years that that made no sense, right?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: And if I believe that we've been here before. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: then someone comes up with a hammer that they found
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in Siberia and the date on that hammer predates the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Bronze Age when we started to make hammers, obviously that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: feeds into my narrative and it's very easy for me
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to say, oh, there you go.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: But then of.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Course it also denies you the looking at other sort
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of you know, possibilities. When you go to Israel, for example,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: have you been in Israel. It's an interesting place to go.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: But literally you'll be driving along in a taxi and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the taxi driver will go, all right, you see over there,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that's where David fort Goliath. And it's great. You know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it doesn't explain that David represents love, that Goliath represents ego.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Like the big big man who you know, lords it about,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and the small person who's got his head together. He
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: understands love is the highest vibration. He takes five small
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: pebbles representative of the five senses, and he takes them out.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: So basically, once you take away your senses and stop
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: living in the material round, you're connected with spirit. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: where does he hit the giant in the pineal glands.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, wouldn't it be a fucking amazing coincidence of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: this story of enlightenment. Actually there was a guy called
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: David that fucking lived and he picked up five. It's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like the fucking Truman Show. It's unbelievable. So I kind
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of get it, you know. But when they're looking for
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the arc, I think you'll find that forty days in
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: scripture represents a period of not so much tribulation but
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: wandering in the wilderness. You know, we all were in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the wilderness before we found the light. For me, it
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: were drugs and you know, travel and bad behavior. For
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: other people, it can be depression, anxiety. But interesting. I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: not saying that some factors in scripture cannot not be real.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But the danger there is once you start believing that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the land of Milk and Honey is an actual fucking
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: place and you kick out all the people that are
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: living there and then you bomb the rest of them
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to death, then it's you can see where it's kind
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of not not helpful, you know, so, Sam, Yeah, fascinating chat.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I've written some notes down in let me just see
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so I didn't go and forget. So the Charlaine Main Trophy, Yeah,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: this is still an operation today, isn't it this?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it is. Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a trophy that's sponsored by those kind
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of persons. Let's say that we've being part of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: World Economic Forum, that type of and it was come
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: up with in a small German town, I believe, or
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: an Austrian town and is presented to the person whose
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: actions most unify Europe.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of it's sort of still steals his
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: sort of limelight in a way if you get with them. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: but it's the kind of the kind of trait. It's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like there's like the Scandinavians the Swedes have. You know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: we have a chivalrous orders in the UK, where we
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: have the Order of the Garter and the Order of
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the Bath, or the Swedes have sort of the same,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: have the Order of Vash, the Order of the Shore,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the Order of the Seraphin, and the Order of the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Polar Star. Now, interestingly enough, the Order of the Polar
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Star is for it is awarded two people who have
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: done something in service for the for the Swedes and
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: for Scandinavia. And it just so happens that Bridget Macaran
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is part of the Order of the Polar Star. So
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: his key Steiner and when he did his I don't
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: know if he's seen a picture of him doing his
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: his little sort of his little pentagram. There's a black
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and white picture on him doing the pentagram. Now people
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: say that's some my sonic symbol. It kind of is,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: but it's it's mortally in to that to that Polar
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Star organization who was throwing off basically, so it makes
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you think, well, what what is what has Britain done
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: for the Swedes. And then you realize that all those families,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: or all.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: The all the all the sort of the the royal
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: lineages all stem from that sort of from the area
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: there that where most of the most purely left, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: it's like it all starts coming together.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Then, right, So let's set the scene is, so we've
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: got these let's call them ancient bloodlines families, the Mera
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: vinchies you mentioned. Let's not say the other names just
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: for the sake of getting pool for slander. Clearly they've
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: come down through the ages and kept the money in
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: their bloodline. I mean that's what they do. Money is power, powers, wealth.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: They're not just going to give it to anyone. This
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: is why you get people like Tony Blair that it
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: turns out he's the third fucking cousin to the queen
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff like this hasn't ittle David Cameron or some
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: such scenario. Now, then you've got your public, and no
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: disrespect to the wonderful, wonderful public. But they are thick
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: as dog shit, aren't they. I Mean, all you've got
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to do is waive of football, and half of them
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: are fucking lost. Hold up a bottle the wine and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the other you've got the other half. And I'm being facetious, folks.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I love football. I've drunk more wine than you ever
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: will believe me. Well, more beer anyway.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: In circus, or isn't it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bread and circus is what we're saying. So
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: we get this, then we get that these lines go
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: back to ancient Egypt and Iran Persia, which was the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you know, the cradle of civilization at one point, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Iraq you had your Babylon.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Well that was one one of the cradles. The thing
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is like, we didn't we didn't come from When you
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: were saying we didn't come out of Africa, that's right,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: We've actually got evidence style that we didn't. Yeah, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: sub subs are in Africans and West Africans are as
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: far apart from each other as we are to chimpanzees. Yeah, basically,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and the northern tribals are as far apart from from
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: both of them as as again as we are from
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: from chimpanzees. We all seem to stem up roughly around
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the same time, but taking different evolutionary trees and still
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: coming out the same. You've got sort of species like
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the Denisevans in the in sort of the very far
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: north of Russia. You've got the Neanderthals here, and then
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: there's they say, there's another ghost species that may have
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: interacted with us as well, that maybe came from from
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: just a bit further further south in Europe. But they
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: found skeletons at like six seven hundred thousand years old
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: that are nothing like, nothing like Homo sapiens down here,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and there are a mix of Denisovan Neanderthal and look
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like like we do. She's all very very very weird.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But the fact that finding these everywhere now lately Greece,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: off the coast of Britain, you know what I mean.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: So they act. Even the guy who was actually it
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: was one of the biggest proponents of the of the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: out of Africa, they return around. They said, it's all wrong,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: we got it all wrong. This is now it turned out,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: so what we'd be taught about, even just our early beginnings,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: is completely it is completely wrong. It's completely wrong.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, So going back to my scenario, you've got these
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: ancient bloodlines. They've come out of places of power to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: settle wherever I'm guessing, to settle where that they could
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: most use their influence and acute the most gold. They're controlling,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the great unwashed. Yeah, and how were they
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: doing it?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Are they a coltic? Have they brought secret knowledge down
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: through the ages? Yes?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Basically yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: How does it relate to the Catholic Church, to the Jesuits.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: These just all sort of offshoots of a central.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all part of the wrong sort of part
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of a central theme. But religion is basically just it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: It's just a a tool of control, if you get
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: what I mean, that's what that's always always meant to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: be useful. It's meant to basically keep us in line
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and keep us in a certain sort of a certain
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: mindset that you came from this, and you came from that,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and this is why you're you're not special if you
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: go what I mean.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, So I mean for our friends listening, you've
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: got Washington there as the head of the military industrial complex.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That's the quest political. Yeah, it's political and enforcement, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: then City of London is banking, and then Vatican is
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: religion and spiritual yeah yeah.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all control. I mean, when you look at
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the architects of project for the New American century. For
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: friends out there, why do I keep mentioning this that
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the project for the new If you don't understand project
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: for the new American century, they called them the neo
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: cons which is, you know, just another euphemism I think
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: for you know, we wat you know, and then you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: look at the Catholic Church and you see that same
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: you know, that same hand at play. And then you
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: look at City of London, that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Little one mile sort of area.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Then you could see what I guess what I'm struggling
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to make a link here would what do you say
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: these royal blood are these bloodlines these families, are they
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: merchants or are they royalty or are they a combination
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of the two or something else.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: There a combination of the two. There's a reason why
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you've got these three sort of hubs in the world
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that states within the state, which is basically Washington, DC,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and City of London and a Vatican. There's three pillars
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: to society to have it affects his society. One of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: them is political leadership in the way of enforcing laws.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Another one is finance or yeah, which is what gives
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: you merchants between each other and the outpeople. And then
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: your third one is a sort of spiritual belief. It
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: gives your morality. And from those three pillars everything else stems,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: so or your education or your police forces or your signs,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: everything else stems from them. Then three sort of pillars.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: If you can control just those three pillars, you can
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: control everything else from that, which is why they have
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: those three hugs. They're sort of the control censes for
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: those three sort of pillars. And from there everything else stems,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: or your education or your finance system.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Everything just remind us of three pillars. We can get
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it in our heads. Right.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: So you've got your political or leadership laws yeah, and enforcement.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Then you've got your finance or trade yeah. And then
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you've got your spiritual or religious yes.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's all hooky cookie in it because the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: finance is basically money lending or a form of it,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: which is always going to end in slavery for all
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of that coming. Yeah, You've got your religious which is
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: keeping people locked in their animal lower self by hiding
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: spirit from them, which is the real meaning of the scripture.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And did you say the political.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Political laws which are enforced by by people like the military.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: And the political is just all a load of massive
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: facade of bullshit because none of them are leaders. They're
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: all puppets. None of the laws that they push are
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: actually you know, moral law.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: God's law.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: They're just fucking made up ship on the navy laureate
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and maritime.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Laws, maritime war, which was also invented by the Venetians
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: that who invented the maritime.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Law on because they were a seafaring race of traders.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, gosh, I mean while they've done is
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: like I said, they've taken those three pillars and the invertums,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: or they do they do the opposite of what they
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: should be doing. Yeah, they're not have benefits to society
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: anymore now, the inverse and more of it a tool
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of control more than anything else, a way of controlling
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: vast populations. But it's all all one and the same.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So next question, how does this relate or
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: does it relate to the black nobility.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: The black nobility are the Venetian bankers. Yeah, the sort
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: of well, the Vension bankers and the sort of the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: papal princes from from way back in the day. I mean,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: it's only didn't exist until around of the eighteen fifty
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: eighteen sixty. Yeah, it was just a lot of papal
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: states before then, and they had their own sort of
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: dukes and princes that were also coincidentally married into these Venetians,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: but the Venetian bankers and everything else, and also had
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: their own sort of banks, and they make up what
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: is officially known as the as the Black nobility.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and excuse my ignorance, what does a papal what
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: is a papal state? What does papal mean? Is that
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to do with the pope?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is, yeah, yeah right, I mean the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Vatican City is in It is in itself a sort
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of a new idea as a state within a state,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: if you go what I mean. Before then, it actually
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: controlled all of Italy.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got you, got you. So you've got these bloodlines
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that have come down. They've kept the money to themselves,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: they've kept the you know, the intermarriage or that they're
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a combination of old money, old blood and the merchant blood.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Merchants can be.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I think these these merchants as well, you have to
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: they kind of see themselves as sort of because of
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: because of the area where they come from, which was
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: basically the sort of that battle on area like Iran
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: in Iraq sort of area. They kind of see themselves
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: as well, sort of sort of being divined in their
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: own right. Yeah, so they're sort of kind of an
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: equal to the to the actual sort of merror of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Vingian blood lines, and that's why they sort of combine
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: themselves together to make sort of one sort of one
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: divine sort of rule.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Well, they're hand in glove, aren't they. The bloodlights. They
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: can't can't keep their money unless they buddy up with
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the merchants.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, but the merchants also needed the armies
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: of the of the the royal bloodlines, So that's why
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: they sort of interfuse together.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Not just the armies, the churches. Yeah, exactly, brainwashing the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: phony politicians to push their fate wars so they can
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: push their central banking.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Sec This is how they get. This is how they
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: keep the money. They'll they'll they'll find escapegoat. They'll start
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: start elevating people. Yeah, especially the people that they want
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: to take the fall. Yeah, they'll they'll get them gathering
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: loads and loads and loads of wealth, and then all
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they'll collapse it the scapegoat will take
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the blame they'll get either wiped out or driven away,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and they'll they'll sort of talking all the money and
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: all the power, wait till they dost settles, come back
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: and start again. And they've done this for centuries, the centuries.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: They're doing it now again. Right right as we speak.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: We're sort of at the sort of end part of
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: that sort of that cycle that they keep doing over
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over again. Whether
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: they'll lift us up, they'll they'll blocks them take the fall,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: they take the money, they'll come back again, they'll start again.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And they've done, They've done. They've elevated the Jewish people,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: They've elevated the Catholics, the Templars, the Muslims. They just
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: keep repeating that cycle. Once you start seeing the pattern,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you start seeing that they're doing the same again, getting
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: sort of engineering the next scape up when they do
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: it again, which is the Muslim population, which is kind
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of scary. Really.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, without sort of saying anything that's going to get
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: us in trouble friends at home, I'm not afraid to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: say stuff that gets them in trouble. I've done it
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: all my life. It's just there's no there's no point
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: getting kicked off off this platform. What does that serve?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It's exactly, it's going to mean that you're not going
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to know this ship. So we've just got to be
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: careful what we say. When you say with respect to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the end thing, what how do you mean, like you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: mean the stirring, the port the mass.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the stirring, the part the mass in the creation,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the sort of the favoritism towards that side, the way
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: they're doing things. In a minute, there's only one way
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: they can actually get a one world sort of system
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in which is what they're aiming for. I think everyone
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: can see that the CBD season did ideas and everything else.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: They can't do that with the war in the war
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of thousands of miles away in the Middle East. Yeah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: not everybody is going to be willingly on board. Yeah,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: there's still they're still going to have a lot of
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: pushback against it. Whereas if you have a sort of
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: shall we say war against each other, Yeah, yeah, in
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: our own on our own sort of backyard, eventually people
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: are going to want something, anything, just to end the madness.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: And you can see this being engineered in every state,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: in every sort of city, every nation around the Western world.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Especially especially and.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: When they want this solution to end the madness? Is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that a hint at the digital passports that they're trying
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: to bring.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: In all it's all the digital control grid, all the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: digital control grid, yeah, as well as AI governance as
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: well at the end of.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: The day, and more surveillance because now, I mean, it
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: really is not a safety go on the streets now
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: as it used to be, especially in certain probably more
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: up your way than down mind, because yeah it is.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting one. I'm still on the subject of
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: this mass immigration. I know that Tommy's been doing his gatherings,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: but obviously he plays that card with one hand and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: then with the other round he then totally backs a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: certain country in the Middle East. Not helpful to only
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: understand half the picture, you.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Able to put half the picture require if you don't
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: understand how a certain banking family created that country in
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the Middle East so that they could hide behind it
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: for their new world order.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: There's actually there's actually more, there's more to it than
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: just that that certain banking family, and this involves the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: actual the people that do actually control that little sliver
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: of the Middle East and that's a completely different family
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and the banking family name. But they did, they did,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: they did it forward it specifically for this family, and
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: they've had the ear of every single president of that
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: little sliver of land ever since.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And this is one of the families that you've been
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: alluding to, one of these ancient bloodlines.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They actually control all the opium trade, all the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: opium trade the Abdune since eighteen twenty.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, And you know when you look at Afghani Stan,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I used to be so naive. If
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I had been a serving when Afghanistan was about, I
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: would have gone there. It wouldn't have occurred to me
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: that all this wealth in the opium yea, in trade.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't have occurred to me that there's a whole
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: thing going on there just just for health.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's because the Taliban stopped stopped
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: growing it. They told everyone to stop growing it, and
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: that it's the only where there was only two places
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: after after around nineteen fourteen nineteen fifty there were actually
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: growing it in sort of vast quantities, and that were
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Vietnam and Afghanistan. Yeah, and then when the Vietnam War
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: started that's one of the reasons why the CIA was
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: sort of meddling in the affairs of that of that country,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: trying to keep that opium sort of crap growing, and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the Vietcong stopped them from from the Southerners from growing
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: it then and then Afghanistan became sort of the sole
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: area where it was grown, and it was all people
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: People say it was for the Bushes, that the that
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you went in for that opium, but it wasn't. It
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: was for that that family that controls that little little are.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Not overlooking the fact that the Bush family made their
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: money on opening and also slave labor in a certain
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: camp in Poland.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a certain amount of a certain amount of
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: money that they got from from a certain party, whilse
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you were funding them from America as well.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Roger, Roger, Yes, So move on, then let's bring
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it onto the to the energy battle that's going on.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm in one of them stages at minutes and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: where I'm having likely breakthroughs all the time, you know
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing when you start doing there, and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: what I'm finding is all of this trauma stuff, this
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: horrible narrative, this stuff, and also my own behavior It's
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: like someone's holding a mirror up to me all the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: time and they're saying, Chris, if you don't want you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: opium walls and rich bloodlight and being a slave to
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: material wealth and the porn industry and the fucking fictitious
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Hollywood bullshit. You know.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: What are you?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking, like, Chris, what are you doing about it?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Because you can't change your world, but you can start
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: with yourself. And please, folks, don't think this is insignificant,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: because when you look at the story of like JC
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: or Krishna or Buddha, they was just one person that
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: had massive influence. Sadly, the merchants have, you know, not
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: so much the Buddha story, but the other wonderful allegory.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: They've subverted it into fanciful fairy tales. Sadly people will
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: go to church sing all that stuff not have no
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: idea what they're talking about it even like Amen, ammun Yeah,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: amon Ra. But that's the masculine of the feminine, you know.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: So when I'm looking in this mirror, I'm thinking, Chris,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: you got to start fixing your ship. And I know
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: what's wrong because the angel or the devil on my
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: shoulder always tells me what I'm doing, what I shouldn't
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: be doing. I bet when you puff on that thing,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: he's whispering in your ear. Really, you know what and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: what what has made me do? Sam? I'm not trying
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: to be like goody goody. You know, I was off
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: my head every day for pretty much thirty five years, right,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I own no fucking well, you know, got a few regrets,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: did some stupid stupid ship and upset people, but you know, overall, Hey,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it's life experience, you know. But here's the thing. Me
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: focusing now on the areas that I need to improve,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it is meant one thing. It's meant looking at my
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: childhood trauma. And when I say mine, I'm talking everyone
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: has this to varying degrees. Everyone has coping behaviors, whether
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: it's porn overeating, you know, battering the wife or the husband,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: or you know, shopping. And if you're willing to look
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: behind that or into that mirror, you'll find out that
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: it's a trauma you're self medicating with chucking you out
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: dopamine up there by, or you're scrolling or whatever. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: once you fix these things one by one, the other
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: stuff just doesn't seem such a load of shit. You know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to Israel Palestine, but I can't do fuck
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: all about what's going on over there other than address
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: might do my part with my life. And when you
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: do that, you focus on yourself. You stop projecting your
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: childhood trauma onto it or onto the rough child's or
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: onto you know, because you have the power to right
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: your injustice and what you've been through for whatever reason.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And if everybody would do.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That a lot better, that positive that that sort of
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: that sort of positive energy does project out into into
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: your sort of into your circle around you, if you
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: get what I mean, once you once you start doing that, yeah,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're talking about.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Because what this dark networker doing, whether we call a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: merchants or you know, whatever euphemism we're going to use today.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: And that's a difficult one in itself. I'm I'm not stupid, folks,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I fucking know who's behind it. It's pretty bloody obvious
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: unless you're blind. However, however, you cannot tar everyone with
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the same brush because that just becomes equally problematic to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the fucking nice people out there who've done nothing to
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: no one right, and it becomes divisive. But here's the thing, this.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Is another thing they want that that's what that's what
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: they want. They want that division. So they do paint
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: them all with the same bush. So then you are
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you are sort of looking at just you see them
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: as a whole rather than than just a tiny fraction.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: You get what I mean that's actually doing it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, let's just say you've got school teachers
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: all up and down the country, and let's just say that,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty five percent of those school teachers are
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: fiddling with the you know, doing stuff that they shouldn't.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: It's not helpful then to come out and say all
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: school teachers are you know, reprobates, because all those ones
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: that aren't going to turn especially if they've been putting
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: victim mode by the historical narrative, they're just going to
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: turn around and look at you, and they're going to
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: get offensive and they're gonna you know, and then when
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: people are defensive, they're in their ego even more so
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you've got victim mode in their ego. What do people do?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: They shut their ears, don't they They don't want to. Yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But going back to the narrative, Sam, the reason I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: talk about this energy battle and getting your own ship
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: in order. Is that is what? That is the only
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: way they're playing us. They're playing us through our trauma.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: That that's it. If you go out of the house
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: in morning, go Do you know what, I don't need
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: a fucking ferrari. I'm gonna stop slaving away for it.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Do you know what. I don't need to go on
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: six holid days a year. I can just be happy
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: going camp camping in Cornwall. I don't need to, you know,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: be a part of a smutty online industry that degrades women.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Can you know that that that I have that I
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: can take that away from them. I don't have to
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: believe in hate narratives And so yeah, I just wanted
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to get you. Sorry. I am aware I'm talking a lot, Sam,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: but but I knew this would be one of them
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: conversations where I'm looking to your knowledge to kind of validate,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: not validate mine, because I think my sort of heaven
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: sent or you know, the divine scent, but to try
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: to get like some connection here so it helps the
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: people watching, is what I'm trying to say.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I know what you mean, I know everything. At the
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: end of the day, no matter what, no matter, no
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: matter what you're looking at, it all connection to each
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: other and it all boils down to spirituality and energy
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when when it bush
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: gumes to to shove. Yeah, everything from UFOs to to
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: aliens to occultism, society is everything. It's all, it's all
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: energetic and all spiritual. It's always a spiritual war.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, So, just wanted to bring this show to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a close with some practic coal advice that people can do.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And do you think, let's be honest, you know, do
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you think people project their own traumas onto this narrative?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: You know, this is why people get so upset about
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: the Medical Ship and the nine.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think. I think in a lot
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: of ways we are. I think I think society as
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: a whole, or in the genetic sort of sense, we
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: have a we have a lot of trauma as well
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that we don't we're not really sort of pivot in
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways. All the all the catastrophes and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: wars and everything else that with ways with each other
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: over the century sort of gets entrenched into your DNA,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and that that passes on sort of trauma sort of
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: generational trauma, and then you have your own on top
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: of that as well, that feeds into that, and it's
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: just a sort of never ending sort of feedback. We've
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: been away, Yeah, all.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Right, next thing. Then, So getting back to our point
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: of earlier that civilizations come and probably come and go,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and it ain't quick. I'd say it could be billions
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: of years in between, and billions of years in the making.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe one day there will be talking fucking elephants.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: You know. Then where are we going as a society?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Because when I look outside my front door, I see
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the sodom and gomora and this is not I don't
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: give a shot, not fucking judging people here. I've had
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a good life. I think I could go today and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't give a damn. I've got family obviously, so
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: it is a bit of an issue. But if I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: was a single person, I'd watch what's going on and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I'd probably laugh, you know. And like George Carlin said,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: when when the apocalypse comes, he's going to get himself
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: a nice seat on the mountain and watch everyone burning. Hell,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: he's going to laugh his fucking ass off because you lot,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: we told you, and so you look out there. Right,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: You've got the people that think they're being pragmatic by
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: buying an electric vehicle. No clue that that thing desecrates
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the environment, you know, and and and.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: More diving to make it than it does.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Actually, you've got this utter ludicrous thing, I'm just going
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: to say it in society, this ludicrous thing that people
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: think somehow desecrating their beautiful body with these tattoos that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: looks like you've given a child a box of crayons
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: decorate me, and then you've gone down the tattoo shop
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and say, could you put that in ink? Please? Right,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I've got a tattoo, folks. This is not a judgment.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying we've got so far away from appreciating
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: our natural, divine beauty and so much into the ego
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: of what do I look?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Do I look like?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Jake Paul?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Can I take some more?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you have seen them. They're both
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Bog brothers who I think they've died a couple of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: years ago, and they did they look like a see
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: see a film called Mask we're sharing it?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Yes I did.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Mcdonnald mcdonna now looks like the Bog brothers. She really does.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Tell me more. I'm fascinating bogged off.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: There were French aristocracy, yeah, or part of the French aristocracy.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: And they've had they've had loads of scientific papers written
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: about them. The dad their own kids TV show doing
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: about science. The twins like two brothers both dead. Now, well,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: they've had so much work done. They're just looking incredible.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Have you found them?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Are founded? Mate? And this is my point, You're not
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: going to get happiness by doing that ship to yourself,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: all tattooing yourself. I'm not saying don't have tattoos if
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you want a tattoo. Folks, fucking loved to the irony is.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I really love too. I love the history behind them.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I just think you've got to be really, really careful,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: get a good one, and then you can call it
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: art getting any old shit splodged all over you because
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: you've fucking got pissed in ib for.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I mean some people, you're reading them, you're not looking
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: at them. Who gets me? I haven't got that many
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: sort of tattoos.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: So you've got people now, and I'm talking about all
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: of us here, folks. You know we over eat, we
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: over sex, we overindulge. We fucking drink every you know,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people drink every day. Now we glued
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to a false god, which is the box in the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: corner of the room or church or whatever. How can
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: we come back from here? I mean, I've already explained
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: how we come back. There's only one way, and that's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: you save yourself. That's fucking you know, and.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: In some ways I think we already are. There's a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: reason why these these certain things, certain things in the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Middle East keep keep all of a sudden kicking off.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: And it's usually when we kept with sort of unifying.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Around one certain point, like October twenty twenty three, everyone
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: was unifying, they got across all lines, and all of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: a sudden that happened. They split everyone down the middle.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: And then as soon as everyone started, when Trump started
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: doing his stuff in the US, kicking all the migrants out,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: he started turning out that everyone was for him doing
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: it pretty much. Yeah, that even people in the who
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: were Democrats that call themselves democrats were all sort of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: for him getting rid of all these illegals. So they
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: had sort of trickles of paid protesters coming out and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: trying to ruin things that didn't work. So then all
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: of a sudden it kicks off with Iran and there
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: certain sort of sliver of land in the Middle East.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: But this thing seemed to be happening quicker and quicker.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: We seem to be getting getting back together, seeing what
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: the plan is, seeing what they're doing, and then all
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they trying split us down the middle
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: again and again, gaining and again. I think people are
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: sort of subconsciously starting to get wise to it. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: think starting to get wise to it. It was more
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: and more go on.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Is there an end to it?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Well, we still continue to I'm going to use the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: word rake the planet of all its natural resources, and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: we've built lies of luxury or perceived luxury based on
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: destroying the planet. I can't see I picture the end
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: of this movie, right, this was a Hollywood move, not
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: a Hollywood move. This was a decent movie. The end
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: of it would be somebody looking at a fire kit,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: you know, like your bow drill or the wheel, and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: throwing it to one side and then walking off into
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: the forest to completely be like that didn't work. That
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: agricultural lifestyle, the technology, the industrial wret that didn't do
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it any let's let let's go and be as one.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I know it's an ideal scenario. I know you for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a start, you'd have to go somewhere warm, because otherwise
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: you'd die of hypo fermia. You'd also have to go
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: somewhere where like the other eight billion people on the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: planet or thirteen billion aren't. But do you get what
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: What? What? What?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: No one's going to give up their creature comforts, are they?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think. I don't think we're going
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: to need to. There's there's lots of I don't know.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: If there's a there's a guy in America and he's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: figured out how to basically melt plastic down into diesel
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: and you use it as diesel. Now obviously they've tried
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: killing him twice, but he's still you still managed to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: get it out there. It's taking all the waste plastic
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: and just refining it down. So people coming up with
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: new ideas that don't actually sort of aren't as harmful
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: to the planet anymore, if you get what I mean. Yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: we're finding better ways of using the materials, better ways
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: of recycling materials. But the Japanese they have is it
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the Chinese. It's either Chinese Japanese. All the sidewalks they're
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: made out of made out of recycled rubber, but they
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: all generate electricity like as people walk over the top
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of them, you know, mit wave views, like reusing tech
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: and using a text. So we are finding sort of
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: ways that don't destroy things and these I think that's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: one of the one of the main attributes of these
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: sort of these people at the top. The more the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: more into destruction, and they are into. Actually I don't
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: think it's a money thing anymore. To them. It's more
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: of just chaos and chaos and death more than anything else.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: But I look at a person like Bill Gates who
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: wants to kill off half the planet for no reason
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: other than he's a selfish anker and sounds like Kermit. Yeah,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: it's just But like I said, I think is a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: dying breed. I think he is. He is like most
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: of them are. I think. I think at the moment,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: we're being run by paraplegic monkeys steering an iile tanker
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: around the whirlpool, you know, getting to that end point
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: now where they're gonna they're going to go down the hole.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I think and then, but it's gonna there's gonna be
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of sort of a lot of chaos before
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that point because but they won't want to do won't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: want to reallykish power willingly.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: The problem is do you do? You get it though,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that if people don't adopt this I hate to use
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: the word spiritual approach because it sounds so wank, and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I totally get that. What I mean is if people
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: don't cheat charge of their biochemical mechanism, if they don't
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: fire off that you know, KUNDERLINI and ignite the pineal,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that is the revolution. I think
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of people out there sam have still got
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: this notion that all the veterans are suddenly going to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: get together and overthrow the fucking Reichstag.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's That's not how
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: I see it though, either. I see it as more
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: as more of a spiritual things. There's certain people out
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: there that sort of sort of resonate that sort of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: positive aura, if you get what I mean, and that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: they channel that into into those around them, the kind
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: of I think of from kind of like Antenna's if
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you get what I mean. Yeah, they they sort of
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: they bring people up and help people around them just
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: by just by being present. And we're getting more and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: more of that kind of person, more and more and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: more coming into the limelight. You just think you can
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: feel it more and more. Even though there's laws of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: crap going on and everything else and it's trying to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: bog you down, you can still feel that sort of
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that that positive energy sort of in the in the background,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: sort of wearing its way in, wearing its way in.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: So I don't some people think they think that we're lost.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're lost at all. I think we're winning.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: It's just that we're not. We're not hearing about it yet.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: The thing is, if we're winning, it's got to be
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: against ourselves, because there is only the one. There is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: only the one organism, the one system. We are the God.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: We're the good and the bad. This is why I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: talk about looking in the mirror, is if you know
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: it's all a representation of it, might be that these
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: merchants and that and these greed manglers they are actually
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: doing you a favor because they're demonstrating not just all
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: what's wrong in the world, but they're putting the ball
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: in your court. And then what are you going to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: do about it?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Well? This is this is this is something that that
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Carl Young talks about quite a lot, like your shadow
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: of self, your your hate for somebody who you're disdaining
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: for somebody is actually is actually you projected out something
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: that you hate within yourself. Yeah, and to to sort
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: of get over that, get over that sort of prejudice
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: you used to look within rather than look without. So yeah,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: it's a kind of the same sort of thing. Yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: totally get that. I get that.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Listen, Sam, I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: This has been one of my most enjoyable charts ever.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I really enjoyed yourself as well.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Ah mate, it's it's all the stuff that I like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to get my head around, you know. And you've also
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: let me speak, which I really appreciate. So are you
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: going to come back on the show and we'll have
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: another yap at some point?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Brilliantly, I've been showing your I've been showing your Twitter.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: There we go, folks, jump on board. Uh, there's we'll
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: put We'll put the link below, don't worry. And I've
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: been showing your book, which is available on Amazon, and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, on a personal note, thank
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: you everybody out there who's supported my mount every summit
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: next April in order to shine a light for us
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: struggling veterans, to highlight the complex nature of PTSD and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that's not been talked about. Everyone's a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: bit sort of brainwashed with these Rambow movies that they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: think PTSD is just something on the battlefield, and I'm
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: here to say it's a lot more complicated than that
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: with US veterans, as you probably anyone who's watched my
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: show will gather. If you chuck a fiver to that, folks,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: there's there's a link below. And also, I don't know
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: if you'll see this by the time this podcast airs,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: but I'll be I'll be the opening act at the
• 1:12:12
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• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: July and Friday the eighteenth of July. And yeah, that
• 1:12:22
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  Speaker 2: It was a pleasure.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed it, mate. Much love to you, Sam,
• 1:12:45
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• 1:12:50
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