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Los Angeles Mayor Accused of Report Tampering | Modern-Day Space Race · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty am six forty bill Handle.
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  Speaker 2: Here it is a Thursday morning, February fifth. Some of
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  Speaker 2: the big stories we are looking at. Rick Caruso, who
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  Speaker 2: ran for mayor against Karen Bass last time out, is
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  Speaker 2: reconsidering his decision. He had decided not to run for
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  Speaker 2: mayor and now he is looking down at running for
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  Speaker 2: mayor and why is that? Well a story that broke
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  Speaker 2: in the La Times about Karen Bass, and the Times
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  Speaker 2: quotes sources, and now that's always a tough one because
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  Speaker 2: who are sources? And when you have news, outlets are
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  Speaker 2: generally not going to tell you sources unless they want
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  Speaker 2: to go public. And so immediately one question sources, huh,
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  Speaker 2: especially in this day and age, what the hell is
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  Speaker 2: is who is a source? So anyway, there are two
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  Speaker 2: sources here. But I'm going to go ahead and you
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  Speaker 2: can take this with a grain of salt if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Sources told The Times that Mayor Karen Bass concerned about
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  Speaker 2: legal liabilities for failures in combating the Palisades fire. She
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  Speaker 2: wanted key findings in the report about the La Fire
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  Speaker 2: Department shortcomings in during before and after the fire.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted those shortcomings removed or.
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  Speaker 2: Softened, and the most significant changes in the report involved
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  Speaker 2: a failure not to fully staff up and pre deploy
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  Speaker 2: all available engines ahead of the high winds. And that's
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  Speaker 2: been very controversial that that didn't happen. Now, keep in mind,
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  Speaker 2: she was also in Ghana as the fires broke out,
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  Speaker 2: and normally that wouldn't be a big deal, but she
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  Speaker 2: knew about the winds or her office did, or she
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  Speaker 2: denies it, and how dangerous they would be and the
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  Speaker 2: Saint Anna's we're going to kick up and well a
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  Speaker 2: lot of deaths could occur and it but you're not kidding.
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  Speaker 1: They did.
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  Speaker 2: And also she had promised that she wouldn't take these
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  Speaker 2: trips in her campaign during the campaign, and so that
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  Speaker 2: in and of itself is fairly controversial. Now to her point,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to talk or I'm going to talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about right or wrong, is there any liability?
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  Speaker 2: The argument is, according to the sources, the reason that
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  Speaker 2: she changed that report or had the report changed to
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  Speaker 2: either soft pedal or simply remove any blame on the
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  Speaker 2: fire department is because of the liability issues. And guess what,
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  Speaker 2: when you have an entity in the municipality admitting they
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  Speaker 2: screwed up.
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  Speaker 1: It was our fault, this is what we should have done.
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  Speaker 2: You bet the liability is going to be astronomical because
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  Speaker 2: then that's used in court. So what ends up happening is,
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  Speaker 2: here's the lawsuit of which can you imagine how many
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  Speaker 2: homes were destroyed? Six thousand, nine thousand homes and businesses,
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  Speaker 2: sixteen thousand structures, A number of people dead, how many injured?
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  Speaker 2: So the lawsuits are completely crazy, the number. And the
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  Speaker 2: last thing the city needs is a report that the
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  Speaker 2: city wrote, here's what we should have done, ABC and D,
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  Speaker 2: and we didn't do it. BOYD does that look good
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  Speaker 2: for a plaintiff? So the argument for soft pedaling the
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  Speaker 2: report makes sense. However, soft pedaling the report by a
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  Speaker 2: senior member of LA read the mayor on this one.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying she did, she outright did, and she denies it,
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  Speaker 2: and they're saying she lied, just straight out about it.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a fair amount of controversy because of course
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  Speaker 2: she's denied she ever did. And again the Times opened
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  Speaker 2: up an investigation and found two sources that corroborated that
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  Speaker 2: statement and that report. And by the way, the source
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  Speaker 2: added that both of these confidences say they were prepared
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  Speaker 2: to testify under oath if this goes to a legal proceeding, which.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it's going to. And so the entire issue
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  Speaker 1: is reported.
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  Speaker 2: It was altered to deflect the attention from the fire
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  Speaker 2: department's failure to pre deploy crews to Pacific Palisse before
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  Speaker 2: the fire, and then the issue did they have the information?
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  Speaker 1: No, we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Karen Bass's office said, oh, we had no idea that
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  Speaker 2: the winds were coming. We had no idea it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be this extensive. Anybody looking at a report
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  Speaker 2: or a broadcast from the local local television or radio station.
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  Speaker 1: We knew that the winds were coming for days.
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  Speaker 2: You had the weather people say, hey, the wins are
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  Speaker 2: coming and they're coming big time. Well, according to Bass,
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  Speaker 2: nobody on her staff watches the news. I guess no
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  Speaker 2: one pays attention to local news. The rest of us do.
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  Speaker 2: And do I look like a weather person although I
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  Speaker 2: play one on radio, I'm not. So that's one issue
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  Speaker 2: that sort of defines her credibility and what she did,
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  Speaker 2: according to Bass, is she merely sent the report back
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  Speaker 2: for refinements and to be rewritten. Well, what are refinements,
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  Speaker 2: She's saying, her off saying, the only thing we asked
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  Speaker 2: for is fact checking. What were the wins, how strong
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  Speaker 2: were they, how many units, how many people the LA
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  Speaker 2: the Fire Department had And we had nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with altering whether or not deployment happened, whether or not.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the allegations is a battalion chief ordered
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  Speaker 2: the crew off of a fire the next day or
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  Speaker 2: off of smoldering rush the next day, which is contrary
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  Speaker 2: to what policy is.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: This is a big political push and I think that
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  Speaker 2: Rick Caruso this time around may actually have some legs
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  Speaker 2: and say I voted for him last time, I would
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  Speaker 2: vote again this time because the only reason that Karen
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  Speaker 2: Bass won this race is she is part of the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic political machinery, which is immensely powerful here in the Southland.
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  Speaker 2: If you're part of the machinery, you have a full
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  Speaker 2: backing of the Democratic Party and the Democratic conchos. And
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  Speaker 2: Rick Caruso is out there on his own as it's
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  Speaker 2: a billionaire and very successful businessman arguing, you know, LA,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bureaucracy, it's a multi billion dollar business, is
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  Speaker 2: what it is and that's what government is. It is
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  Speaker 2: a business. Money comes in, money is spent. How do
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  Speaker 2: we make it as efficient as possible? I mean, do
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  Speaker 2: you have a politician do it?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, so we certainly have one.
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  Speaker 2: Now, although there's certain things that she is doing that
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  Speaker 2: makes some sense, like for example, cutting homeless services because
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  Speaker 2: there just ain't any money.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now here is a story that's i would say, hugely
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  Speaker 2: controversial and something I've been talking.
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  Speaker 1: About for many, many years.
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  Speaker 2: And this is something called a pretextual stop. And this
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  Speaker 2: is LAPD And there is a nine page report that
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  Speaker 2: was released by LAPD about pretextual stops.
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  Speaker 1: And what is that.
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  Speaker 2: It's when an officer uses a minor vehicle code violation
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  Speaker 2: as a legal pretext to investigate a hunch about a
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  Speaker 2: more serious, unrelated crime. And what is the hunch. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the argument is that the hunch that someone who is
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  Speaker 2: driving is more likely to be a criminal than someone
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  Speaker 2: else because he or she is black or hispanic, straight
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  Speaker 2: out racism. And this accusation has been made against the
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  Speaker 2: LAPD for many years. In twenty twenty two, the LAPD
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  Speaker 2: implemented a new policy does not allow officers to use
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  Speaker 2: these pretextual stops based solely on a hunch.
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  Speaker 1: And there is the other.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it is that cops after period of time
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  Speaker 2: can just sort of smell there's a problem. And third
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  Speaker 2: percent of these pretextual stops by the LAPD did net
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  Speaker 2: evidence of other crimes. The problem is more than thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent or blacks or Hispanics. And so cops are saying, no,
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  Speaker 2: we don't do that. Well, I'm saying, cops do that.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're African American, the phrase is driving while
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  Speaker 2: black DWB And do I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that happens? Yeah, I do. I do. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: about as pro cop as they come.
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  Speaker 2: And yet at the same time, when police officers told
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  Speaker 2: me no, no, we don't do that, yeah, yeah they do.
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  Speaker 2: Now can a cops stop a car, Yeah, let's say
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  Speaker 2: tail it is out swerving, driving too slowly, seeing someone
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  Speaker 2: in the driver's seat or passenger seat, particularly driver's seat,
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  Speaker 2: look really nervous as a police officer passes, although I
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  Speaker 2: would argue anybody, everybody is nervous when a police officer
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  Speaker 2: passes and looks at you through the window. So let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you a story about this station and a
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  Speaker 2: previous general manager, Howard Neil, who was I'm assuming still
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  Speaker 2: is African American. And by the way, I know what
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  Speaker 2: driving while black is like because when I was a
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  Speaker 2: black man, I was stopped more often than not.
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  Speaker 1: And so Howard.
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  Speaker 2: Being a African American, and he would drive from the
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  Speaker 2: station to his home in Baldwin Hills and that's through
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  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. And Howard did very well. He had investments.
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  Speaker 2: He was general manager of a very successful station, so
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  Speaker 2: he had really nice suits. He was spend a couple
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  Speaker 2: of thousand dollars on a suit, and he had a
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes late model Mercedes.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that a couple of times a.
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  Speaker 2: Week he would be pulled over by a police officer
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  Speaker 2: and asked, very politely, you know what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you going? And it would happen to him often.
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  Speaker 2: Now I've driven through Beverly Hills hundreds of times and
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  Speaker 2: I have never been stopped. Now that's an anecdotal story,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it raises the question is does this
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  Speaker 2: really happen? And so with the LAPD is looking at
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  Speaker 2: and doing a lot of investigating because from April one,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, through November thirty, twenty twenty five, LAPD
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  Speaker 2: officers stopped nearly seven hundred and ninety thousand people, almost
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  Speaker 2: seventy five thousand of them, about ten percent were pretextual
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  Speaker 2: stops and seventy percent resulted no evidence found. But thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent did I mean that is a really high figure,
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  Speaker 2: and when evidence was discovered as drugs for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: and twenty percent of these stops resulted in vehicle searches.
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  Speaker 2: Because again, if a police officer finds that there is
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  Speaker 2: evidence that person is nervous, furtive, looking, tail light out,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, he can pull the police.
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  Speaker 1: He can pull the driver.
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  Speaker 2: Over and then if smelling, for example, marijuana, the driver
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  Speaker 2: looking particularly nervous can then continue on with police activity. Now,
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  Speaker 2: in reality or as time the policy was implemented, Since then,
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  Speaker 2: the total number of traffic stops had really declined from
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirteen and twenty nineteen to three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty one thousand three years later, more than half
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  Speaker 2: why COVID reduced personnel policy changes. So we're still looking
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  Speaker 2: at this and the bottom line. Do I think that
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  Speaker 2: driving while black is something that's real?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think the driving as a hispanic is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have an advantage if it's d W driving
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  Speaker 2: wild white, Yes, you have less of a chance of
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  Speaker 2: being pulled over. And this whole argument about hunches too,
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  Speaker 2: hunches are real. I mean, there's just something accomplisment around
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Can as I was explained to by
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  Speaker 2: a police officer. You know, you can sort of taste
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  Speaker 2: and smell when something is hinky, meaning there's something not
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  Speaker 2: quite right here. But you can't stop based on that.
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  Speaker 2: There has to be real evidence, and now you have
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  Speaker 2: to have bodycam evidence and you have to be very
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  Speaker 2: specific as to why the police officer is stopping the motorists.
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  Speaker 2: All right, the space race has come back to Southern California.
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  Speaker 2: During the Moon landing and the Apollo and the Gemini
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  Speaker 2: missions mission, Southern California was at the forefront of all this.
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  Speaker 1: The engineering took place here.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the construction of pieces of the rocket
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  Speaker 2: and the capsule were built here, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the engineering is here because we have the engineers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the technological expertise of people in Southern California is extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: relative to the rest of the country, which is why
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  Speaker 2: people come here, and which is why the technological level
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  Speaker 2: of folks who.
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  Speaker 1: Were in that field are very high here. So then
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  Speaker 1: it disappeared.
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  Speaker 2: Then the space program basically blew up, done and our
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  Speaker 2: aerospace industry collapsed. Well it's coming back with a just
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  Speaker 2: a vengeance. Vandenberg Air Force Base Vandenberg Space Force Base
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  Speaker 2: is at the forefront is the poster child of what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. It's about one hundred thousand dollars acre Santa
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  Speaker 2: Barbara County and in the sixties was a testing ground
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  Speaker 2: for the early generation ballistic missiles. Today it's a launch
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  Speaker 2: site for satellites and classified missions and other payloads, and
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  Speaker 2: it's been marked by well today it's a sharp jump
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  Speaker 2: in flights and it's a military facility. In twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: SpaceX started sending star link in Internet satellites up in
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  Speaker 2: to space for the dealing with their version of the Internet,
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  Speaker 2: and the military considers those Internet satellites critical to national security.
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  Speaker 2: So now is aiming higher. It's the space port of
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  Speaker 2: the future. I guess too many politicians watch the jetsons
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  Speaker 2: and the federal government is making plans for a nearly
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  Speaker 2: nine hundred million dollars makeover of the base, roads, buildings,
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  Speaker 2: launch pads because there's going to be a large surge
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  Speaker 2: in launches. Last year, seventy one rockets blasted off, most
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  Speaker 2: of them SpaceX this year one hundred or more could
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  Speaker 2: take off. And aerospace companies are also sprouting up around
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  Speaker 2: Vandenburg and in southern California because space is the new
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  Speaker 2: frontier coming back. We're looking at satellites, we're looking at
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  Speaker 2: putting man on the moon. And you've got SpaceX and
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk, who is probably the hancho in the world
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  Speaker 2: of space right now with I think he has eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent of the market it for spacecraft and he is
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  Speaker 2: He's dead set. We're putting someone on the moon, and
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  Speaker 2: if anybody can do it, it's going to be Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is is that the rocket that's going to
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  Speaker 2: take men women to the Moon is going to be
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  Speaker 2: and is the most powerful, biggest rocket that has ever
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  Speaker 2: been built.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: That means noise like you cannot believe. And Vandenburg, even
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  Speaker 2: though it is out in the desert, still you've got
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  Speaker 2: marine mammals offshore, you got birds, I mean, you have
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of animals who are at risk. And let's
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  Speaker 2: not forget the noise, the sonic boom that all of
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  Speaker 2: this causes, so the environmentalists are going absolutely berserk. The
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  Speaker 2: community pushback as to the number of launches has increased,
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  Speaker 2: because at twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: There were seven. Well there are a lot more now.
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  Speaker 2: So SpaceX has been blasting it's workhorse, the Falcon nine rocket,
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  Speaker 2: and it is now just received actually approval to launch
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  Speaker 2: the bigger Falcon heavy rocket, and that hasn't even it
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  Speaker 2: hasn't compared to the super duper crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Rocket, and that's the Falcon four hundred and ninety. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the name of it is.
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  Speaker 2: In southern California, defense startups are receiving millions in funding.
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  Speaker 2: You have venture capital firms jumping in, tech giants jumping in.
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  Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, the problem that the
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  Speaker 2: environment environmentals are environmentalists are pointing to is a Space
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  Speaker 2: Force in December invited rocket companies to build and operate
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  Speaker 2: that super heavy launch and they're building the launch pad
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  Speaker 2: for exactly that. Well, it's becoming hugely controversial. There'll be
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  Speaker 2: lawsuits filed, environmental impact lawsuits filed, which did not happened
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  Speaker 2: in the sixties, and it really hasn't happened with the
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  Speaker 2: military flights that have occurred over the last few years,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of UFOs are reported as rockets go
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  Speaker 2: up from Vandenberg.
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  Speaker 1: But no, those are smaller rockets.
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  Speaker 2: They're not the super heavy rockets that you can literally
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  Speaker 2: hear from one hundred miles away, and we don't hear
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  Speaker 2: when we had the Space Shuttle, Amy, do you remember
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  Speaker 2: the sonic boom that would come in overhead?
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  Speaker 1: It was a double spanic. It was a double sonic boom.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that they do that. They happen sometimes. I've
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  Speaker 1: never actually heard one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh they're neat. It's a double shot. It's a boom
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  Speaker 2: boom and that way you know, boom. It was a
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  Speaker 2: boom boom. It wasn't just a boom. It was a
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  Speaker 2: boom boom. And now it's back again. And I'm a
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  Speaker 2: big fan, and I really like the idea of these
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  Speaker 2: rockets doing what they're going to do, especially going to
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  Speaker 2: the Moon and to Mars.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I.
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  Speaker 2: Like it is because, first of all, I love the
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  Speaker 2: technology part of it. I've been a space fan for
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  Speaker 2: since I'd been a kid. And I don't live anywhere
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  Speaker 2: near Vannenburgh, So you put all of that together and
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine. With all this, it couldn't be better. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now here is one of the issues that we don't
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  Speaker 2: talk a whole lot about in terms of the deportations,
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  Speaker 2: and that is Mexicans. This story about Mexicans the La Times,
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  Speaker 2: written by two of the Times writers followed some people
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  Speaker 2: who had been deported and went back to Mexico. And
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  Speaker 2: so there they are returning home and a couple of
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  Speaker 2: them hadn't been there for twenty years. So they spoke
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  Speaker 2: to these migrants who had been deported. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: tens of thousands have been deported into Mexico, and so
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  Speaker 2: these migrants returning migrants have discovered that Mexico is certainly
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  Speaker 2: not the Mexico. So that they knew. Criminal groups are
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  Speaker 2: better armed, they're better organized. These groups control about a
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  Speaker 2: third of the Mexican territory. Can you imagine that the
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  Speaker 2: cartel controls a third of Mexico. Gangs have branched out
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  Speaker 2: beyond drug trafficking. They're extorting money from small businesses, completely
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  Speaker 2: dominate entire industries, the avocado industry, the line trade, and
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  Speaker 2: in some reasons, criminals charge taxes on everything tortillas, chicken, cigarettes, beer,
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  Speaker 2: someone selling little old ladies selling Tamali's on the street
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  Speaker 2: corner just to live on. Because they make no money,
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  Speaker 2: they have to pay at tax to the cartel. Also,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about their language, Spanglish, not Spanish, not English, Spanglish.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason that these returning migrants are really pointed
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  Speaker 2: out and are really given a lot of grief by
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  Speaker 2: the cartels is that they're perceived to have money, so
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  Speaker 2: they're set up for kidnapping or extortion. And this is
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  Speaker 2: really tough for these returning migrants. And so who's going back, well,
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  Speaker 2: tens of thousands. Now the deportation issue, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: way that ICE is dealing with migrants is fairly controversial
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  Speaker 2: a lot, although according to the Trump administration, they're kicking
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  Speaker 2: back and the worst of the worst, no one has
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  Speaker 2: any problem with the problem is is a lot of
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  Speaker 2: not worse of the worst. But in reality, the law
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  Speaker 2: is the law, and if someone is here illegally, and
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if someone has been here twenty years illegally,
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  Speaker 2: then they are liable for deportation. That is the law. Now,
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  Speaker 2: how they get deported, how they're picked up is a
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  Speaker 2: whole different story, and there is the contraby, but going
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  Speaker 2: back is almost impossible. And to give you an idea
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  Speaker 2: of how dangerous it is, I've been telling you about
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  Speaker 2: one of Lindsay's best friends, her son in law, was deported.
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  Speaker 2: I had been overrunning his visa and was and Barry
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  Speaker 2: and been here for years and had a business photographer,
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  Speaker 2: and he was picked up and deported to l Salvador.
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  Speaker 2: He came here and was going through the system, had
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  Speaker 2: asked for asylum, going through the system, because one of
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  Speaker 2: the basis for asylum is when you go back home
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  Speaker 2: or where you live. It is so dangerous that the
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  Speaker 2: United States recognizes how dangerous it is and will grant asylum.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason he and his mother had to leave
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  Speaker 2: is because his aunt was picked up by one of
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  Speaker 2: the cartel, one of the Narco terrorists, and she was
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  Speaker 2: murdered and her tongue was cut out and then dumped
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  Speaker 2: on the front porch of their home because she had
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  Speaker 2: somehow gotten on the other side of these narco traffic
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  Speaker 2: condes and obviously gotten someone angry.
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  Speaker 1: So he came here, he could, he had to.
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  Speaker 2: Okay asylum process going on. Still gets deported and that's
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  Speaker 2: happened to so many people, and going back, My god,
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  Speaker 2: can that be a nightmare? And so we're gonna hear
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  Speaker 2: more and more of those stories. This is KFI AM
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  Speaker 2: six point forty.
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  Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
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