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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. It's Jeff here. I wanted to let
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Speaker 1: you know. We recorded this Opposition Territory podcast on Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: February fifth, twenty twenty five. By the time you hear this,
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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy the show. Welcome to Opposition Territory. Here
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Speaker 1: a great discussion coming your way. It is our last
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Speaker 1: Opposition Territory podcast that previews an Eagles game this coming season.
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Speaker 1: We are going to have a Super Bowl preview show,
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Speaker 1: of course that's going to be dropping this week, but
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be diving into this Kansas City Chiefs team
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Speaker 1: what we may see from them on the field during
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Speaker 1: this upcoming Super Bowl. We have got a great guest,
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Speaker 1: let's get right to it and joining us from Arrowheadpride
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Speaker 1: dot Com. He runs the ship over there, great great
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Speaker 1: SB Nation site. We've had him on before to get
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Speaker 1: into some Chiefs talk. We've got the one and only
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Speaker 1: Ron Copp Junior. How are you doing, buddy.
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Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm good again we're talking it just it's crazy
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Speaker 2: at AFCNFC matchup can happen so many times, four times
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Speaker 2: last four years. Yeah, we're here again and and I'm
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Speaker 2: excited for this matchup. Chiefs Eagles is always a great game.
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Speaker 2: All the storylines that Andy Reid, the Yep, There's so
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Speaker 2: many things that go into this Chiefs Eagles game.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I wanted to start off our discussion ron
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Speaker 1: about a narrative that's been going around in certain circles
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Speaker 1: within Eagles Nation, and quite frankly, I'm getting a little
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Speaker 1: annoyed with it too. I really am that the that
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Speaker 1: the Eagles should not only win this game, but win
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Speaker 1: it handily, like possibly, like by double digits like that.
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Speaker 1: It is a narrative at least in my feeds online
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Speaker 1: that I am seeing, and I'm really annoyed by it
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Speaker 1: because we are Philly sports fans here and we know
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Speaker 1: what it's like to get the rug pulled out from
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Speaker 1: under us. You overthink things, and I just I can't
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Speaker 1: deal with it at the moment. So it's a narrative.
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Speaker 1: I just I hate that level of confidence actually heading
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Speaker 1: into this Super Bowl matchup. I mean, we're not seeing
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Speaker 1: it from Chiefs Nation quite frankly, and I'm getting a
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Speaker 1: little annoyed by it. Have you heard these rumblings as
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Speaker 1: well from maybe your little corners of Eagles Nation that
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Speaker 1: you may follow here and there, And if so, like,
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on, you know, which team may
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Speaker 1: actually have the edge coming into this game?
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Speaker 2: And you know, we're kind of getting used to it,
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Speaker 2: you know, in terms of you know, first of all,
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Speaker 2: I understand why Eagles fans are confident. I mean you
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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the team they've put together this year,
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Speaker 2: talk about you kind of compared to the last Super Bowl,
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Speaker 2: you think, okay, you know, we still have all these
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Speaker 2: town of guys, and then we added Saquon too from
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Speaker 2: you know, and we put up thirty five on the
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Speaker 2: Chiefs that kind of thought process. But you know, we
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Speaker 2: are getting used to it in Chiefs Kingdom, where like
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Speaker 2: anyone who plays us feels like, you know, oh, they're
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Speaker 2: not playing that well or oh you know they right right,
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Speaker 2: they're They're just not you know, they're not the same
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Speaker 2: team they were, you know when Mahomes first came on
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Speaker 2: the scene, Like it is it's true that the Chiefs
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Speaker 2: just don't win in the style points way anymore. And
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Speaker 2: but they just keep winning.
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Speaker 1: So that's a great one. That was a great way
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Speaker 1: to look a great way to say it. The style points. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's a great way to look at it. Like, of
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Speaker 1: course they're winning games a lot by like single digit points,
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Speaker 1: but they're winning games like at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: they're in the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Well, and then you look at a team like the
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Speaker 2: Eagles that you know, obviously a great team overall, no
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Speaker 2: matter what, but they do win with style points like
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Speaker 2: a Saquon having freaking three sixty yard touchdowns and two
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Speaker 2: playoff games. I mean, you know, there is there is
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Speaker 2: something too where Yeah, it just feels like the Eagles
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Speaker 2: are maybe like the more talented team, but the Chiefs,
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Speaker 2: you know, the Chiefs have continued to flip that, you know,
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Speaker 2: every time they run into that narrative. So I'd caution
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Speaker 2: the confidence a little bit of Eagles fans, you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, Mahomes and company. But hey, you know, now
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Speaker 2: is this hurts in company second Super Bowl? So there
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Speaker 2: is something to that, and that's what makes it a
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Speaker 2: great game. That's why it's going to be a great man.
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Speaker 1: I think so too, really, I mean, there's something to
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Speaker 1: be said about what you just said is that the
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Speaker 1: Eagles actually have some experience now in this you know,
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs obviously have experience with regard to the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: the pressures, you know, what comes with it during the
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Speaker 1: week leading up to it, and how that wears on
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Speaker 1: various players and even coaches with the interviews, the constant
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Speaker 1: media attention. You know. Now, the Eagles do have that
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Speaker 1: experience a bit here. So well, we'll see how that,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how that manifests itself on the field.
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Speaker 1: But I really want to get into the quarterbacks here
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Speaker 1: in this game that we have seen all season. Patrick Mahomes,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. Here. Mahomes is, of course the elite quarterback
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Speaker 1: of the NFL. There's no argument about it. He's just
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Speaker 1: in a league by himself and Jalen Hurts. He's a
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Speaker 1: very very, very good quarterback. I would not call him elite.
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Speaker 1: A lot in Eagles Nation, A lot of folks in
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Speaker 1: the Eagles Nation do not call him an elite quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But he isn't a traditional quarterback in the sense of
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball for three hundred yards, having two or
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Speaker 1: three touchdowns, passing within the course of a game. So
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Speaker 1: when you look at both quarterbacks, ron, how do you
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Speaker 1: assess what they're going to be bringing to both offenses? Here,
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Speaker 1: we can start with Mahomes since you you see him
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Speaker 1: week in and week out.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is interesting, you know, you talk
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Speaker 2: about you know, and Mahomes has earned the mantle of being,
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Speaker 2: you know, the elite of the elite. But yeah, you
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Speaker 2: look at you know, a year like this year where
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Speaker 2: you know, the statistics aren't there, you know, he wasn't
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Speaker 2: one of the best in the NFL when you look
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Speaker 2: at the raw statistics kind of the you know, the
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Speaker 2: way you you know, judge quarterbacks, and it just goes
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Speaker 2: back to the he's here because situational football. And that's
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Speaker 2: honestly where you know, I kind of compare Mahomes and
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Speaker 2: jail and hurt It's like both are just so dangerous
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Speaker 2: in their own ways, you know, in situations, right, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs third down, you know, you just
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Speaker 2: no matter what the third, ten, third and five, you know,
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. You know, Mahomes just knows how to
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Speaker 2: get those those yards. Know, whether it's with his legs,
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Speaker 2: with his arm. You know, Jalen Hurts has that ability
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Speaker 2: where yeah, if it's if it's third and six or so, like,
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Speaker 2: you still have the ability where you he can scramble
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Speaker 2: get the first down of self, they can run design
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Speaker 2: run with him.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: You know there's so many layers to in the red
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Speaker 2: zone too. You know, that's another big situation part of
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Speaker 2: football where Hurts is really hard to stop in the
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Speaker 2: red zone because of what he has around him, but
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Speaker 2: also just because he can can do it himself and
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Speaker 2: it's hard to tackle. I mean, if you get a
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Speaker 2: shoulder into Hurts, you know you're probably going to be
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Speaker 2: taken two three yards of times, you know back you
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Speaker 2: know yourself. So yeah, that's where you know, you talk
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Speaker 2: about both these quarterbacks and how they just you know,
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Speaker 2: have brought these offenses to the point. Both their talented offenses.
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Speaker 2: Obviously both have guys that can make plays for them,
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Speaker 2: but you know, both quarterbacks just are so dangerous in
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Speaker 2: the situation's third down, fourth down, red zone. You know,
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Speaker 2: even two minutes. You know, it seems like obviously Mahomes
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Speaker 2: can can get to the field goal, but it does
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Speaker 2: seem like Jalen Hurts just knows how to give his
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Speaker 2: playermakers opportunities like AJ Brown you know down the field
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Speaker 2: or Dallas Godder, who you know ripped the Chiefs a
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Speaker 2: few times in the last Super Bowl. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I think both quarterbacks just you know, really excel in
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Speaker 2: the situation.
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Speaker 1: That's when I look at when I think about these
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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks, it's great points. It's great points round and
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Speaker 1: you know, these are two quarterbacks that are at the
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Speaker 1: top of their game right now. And I mean, like
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Speaker 1: you said, Patrick Mahomes, you know, not necessarily the greatest
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Speaker 1: statistical year that he has had, but at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, again it really doesn't matter because he
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Speaker 1: is in the Super Bowl. He has helped lead this
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Speaker 1: offense to a Super Bowl and he's done it with
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Speaker 1: the passing game that the Chiefs have implemented this year
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Speaker 1: and also with regard to the rushing game too. And
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Speaker 1: I want to get into the rushing game here for
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs not necessarily the strongest area of the offense.
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Speaker 1: Many national analysts have said it's one of the weakest
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Speaker 1: areas on the Chiefs team overall. I mean, the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: end of the season twenty second in the league in rushing.
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Speaker 1: If I read certain articles correctly, how do you see
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs utilizing the rushing game in the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: against this Eagles defense it's basically number one in the league.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is going to be key in this
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Speaker 2: game because of the fact that the Eagles do have
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Speaker 2: this big Fangio D fence where they're going to funnel
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Speaker 2: you know, they want you to They're not going to
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Speaker 2: let you have, you know, some of the deeper stuff,
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Speaker 2: the intermediate stuff, and the Chiefs have been dealing with
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Speaker 2: that for a long time. So the quick passes are
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Speaker 2: going to be a big part of this game. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: they need the run game to be effective. And what
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Speaker 2: you've seen kind of down the stretch is since they
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Speaker 2: moved Joe Toney, you know, starting left guard to left tackle,
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Speaker 2: brought in you know, a second year player Mike Caliendo,
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Speaker 2: who certainly you know, has been the weak link of
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Speaker 2: the offensive line pretty clearly. You know, it's not like
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Speaker 2: you can see it. You know, they they've been overcoming
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Speaker 2: him kind of maybe getting you know, in the past
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Speaker 2: game especially, but in the run game, it's it's affecting, yeah,
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Speaker 2: how how much they're getting per run. That's why you
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Speaker 2: see they see them almost kind of back away from
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Speaker 2: the run game in these playoff games where they're just
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Speaker 2: throwing the ball a lot more quick passes. But you
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Speaker 2: did see in that Bills game, you saw them kind
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Speaker 2: of switch up how they run it. You know, there
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Speaker 2: are a lot of traditional zone runs, you know how
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Speaker 2: they usually do it. You saw them pull that guard
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Speaker 2: tackle counter where Trey Smith and Jowan Taylor, something they
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Speaker 2: never do, and that helped them score two touchdowns in
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Speaker 2: the red zone. Actually, so you know, I think the
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Speaker 2: main part of the run game is really that Kareem
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Speaker 2: Hunt has has become the lead back and they're trusting
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Speaker 2: him as that lead back. You know, he he he
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Speaker 2: was signed mid season and you know, I didn't know
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Speaker 2: how that would go necessarily, but he is showing, you know,
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Speaker 2: his veteran you know vision. You know, he has this
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Speaker 2: little wiggle that you know, he and he's bigger that
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Speaker 2: he can kind of fight through tackles. Right for Pacheco.
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Speaker 2: Pachecko broke his leg in like week two, and so
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Speaker 2: I think when he came back late in the regular season,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think the Chiefs were wanting to give
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Speaker 2: him his starting role back. But you know, you're seeing
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Speaker 2: that you know, breaking your leg is not going to
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Speaker 2: be easy to come back from it may not be
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, and so I think they're trusting Karea
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Speaker 2: Hunt more and more as the playoffs have went on,
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Speaker 2: and I think he's the one that has to be
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Speaker 2: running against his Eagles defense. That again, yeah, they're going
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Speaker 2: to be allowing some of the shorter stuff underneath stuff,
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Speaker 2: but he's the kind of running back that can break
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Speaker 2: tackles and kind of you know, make the most of
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Speaker 2: the space that's allowed from the Eagles defense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a good point, and I think
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Speaker 1: that this Eagles defense, you know, not that they're going
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Speaker 1: to know exactly what Andy Reid's gonna be running. And
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Speaker 1: we're certainly gonna be seeing a trick play or two
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Speaker 1: in this game. You can better absolutely absolutely we know
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Speaker 1: that it's gonna happen for sure. But it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: interesting to see how the Chiefs utilize Kareem Hunt and
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Speaker 1: this rushing game early on to potentially you know, set
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Speaker 1: the tone here. But you know, I think if the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna win this game, as we're moving along here, Ron,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to have to neutralize the Eagles
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Speaker 1: offensive line, and I'm I'm not sure that that actually
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Speaker 1: can or will happen. I'm not saying that to be
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Speaker 1: the homer here or anything on the Philadelphia Sports Table
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Speaker 1: podcast show. I mean, sure the Chiefs have some big
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Speaker 1: names up front with regard to their defensive front. Of course,
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, he's a monster, He's a monster. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if Spags is gonna have to blitz
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Speaker 1: Hurts like eighty five percent of the time to neutralize
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Speaker 1: perhaps the offensive line and just neutralize the Eagles offense. Here.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about the Eagles offensive line and
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Speaker 1: really how the Chiefs defense defense might be able to
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Speaker 1: neutralize them if if it's even possible. What what do
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Speaker 1: you think?
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, you're one hundred percent right where Spags.
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Speaker 2: Even this week he was talking in his press conference
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Speaker 2: how this is definitely the toughest challenge they've had as
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Speaker 2: a defense all year in terms of the run game,
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Speaker 2: in terms of the offensive line for the Eagles, you know,
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Speaker 2: because it isn't just saqu Is the the you know,
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Speaker 2: he he is the thing that is taking it to
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Speaker 2: another level. But this offensive line has always, you know,
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Speaker 2: been so so effective at opening up stuff up in
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Speaker 2: the run game, but also in past protection. And that's
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Speaker 2: where you're right, Stags is going to have to get creative,
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna he's had to be creative all year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know this foe man rush, four man rush the
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Speaker 2: Chiefs have. You know, they have a lot of pocket crushers.
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Speaker 2: They have a lot of guys that are going to
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Speaker 2: maybe make the pocket tight, but not necessarily you know,
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Speaker 2: just win and get you know, sacks. You know, they're
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Speaker 2: more of a pocket crushing team when they're just rushing
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Speaker 2: their traditional forwards Carloftus and forty yeah right, and and
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Speaker 2: Charles and many hue in the mix. But when they
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Speaker 2: get to those past, you know, they'll spread it out.
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Speaker 2: They'll try to find ways to shirt guys. And I
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Speaker 2: think it all starts with that interier of the Eagles
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Speaker 2: offensive line. I think the edges you're gonna have to say, look,
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Speaker 2: you know, brush the pocket as much as you can
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Speaker 2: from the edge, right. I just don't know if you're
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Speaker 2: gonna see much winning around the edge or you know,
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Speaker 2: much movement you know inside spins on guys like my
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Speaker 2: Latta and Lane Johnson. I mean, that's that's gonna be tough.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's all about maybe wasting those guys
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Speaker 2: trying to you know, get those guys maybe upfield as
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Speaker 2: much as possible, and then just doing as much as
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Speaker 2: you can to attack the guards and center combo. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: you guys have been banked up a little bit in there.
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Speaker 2: I know everyone's probably gonna be fine for a Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl matchup, you know, two weeks arrest and everything. But
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Speaker 2: I think that's the Chiefs only hope, you know, especially
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Speaker 2: on pass downs, is you know, whether it's twist, stunts, blitzing,
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Speaker 2: just you got to attack the guards and the centers
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Speaker 2: and see if you can get some inside rush on Hurts,
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Speaker 2: and those d ms will probably be playing contained, trying
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Speaker 2: to make sure Hurts doesn't beat them outside the pocket
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Speaker 2: and use his legs too much.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say a lot of stunts and probably
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Speaker 1: bringing the linebackers up too to implement some of that
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Speaker 1: some of that strategy as well. It's gonna be man,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to watch this.
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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, but they do have to be careful and
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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna get into it, but I mean
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Speaker 2: some other teams they feel more comfortable. Hey, we can
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Speaker 2: send the house, but against a team like the Eagles
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Speaker 2: with a bunch of guys that can get the ball
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Speaker 2: in their hands pretty quickly, you do need to be
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Speaker 2: careful blitzing.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely seriously a slant route to Devonte Smith or aj Brown.
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Speaker 1: I mean that that could go for forty yards on
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Speaker 1: a play like that where you've got some blitzes and
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Speaker 1: some stunts where they're trying to neutralize the offense and
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Speaker 1: trying to you know, neutralize you know, the pocket in
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Speaker 1: general could be a disaster too. I mean, I do
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Speaker 1: I do think both teams secondaries, you know, as we
13:39
Speaker 1: kind of move into like the defensive side of things here,
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Speaker 1: I do think both teams defensive secondaries here are also
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Speaker 1: gonna matter in terms of who wins this game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the Eagles they may have the edge when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the cornerback and safety positions. But I'd really like
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Speaker 1: to hear from you and maybe give our listeners here
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Speaker 1: at PSD podcast show and I about what we can
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Speaker 1: expect from the Chiefs from the secondary. I mean, what
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Speaker 1: are the strengths and weaknesses of this Chief secondary that
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Speaker 1: we should be keeping our eyes on.
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Speaker 2: No, And I think it builds off the run game
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Speaker 2: point where yeah, like the Chiefs have to commit some
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Speaker 2: sort of you know, bodies to the run game or
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Speaker 2: have people near the line of scrimmage, yea. And so
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to trust guys in the back end.
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Speaker 2: And and like like we said, you know, you have
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Speaker 2: to be careful about blitzing, but they will blitz. And
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Speaker 2: so they are going to be trusting these guys in
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Speaker 2: the back end. And it does start with a guy
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Speaker 2: like Trent McDuffie, who is certainly one of the stickiest
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks in the NFL, There's no doubt about it. He
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Speaker 2: does not allow much separation when he's one on one.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, a guy like a J.
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Speaker 2: Brown that he you know, we've seen guys like Courtland Sutton,
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Speaker 2: you know, bigger receivers you know who still have you know,
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Speaker 2: they're they're bigger, but their elite receivers because they can
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Speaker 2: wiggle to their they're fast, to athletic to just like
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Speaker 2: AJ Brown. But the bigger guys, the guys that have size,
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Speaker 2: are the ones you know that give McDuffie trouble just
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Speaker 2: because he doesn't have the length to test them on
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Speaker 2: the sideline as well or down the field as well.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, Jalen Hurts is going to push that is
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Speaker 2: gonna is definitely gonna test that, I imagine. But you know,
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Speaker 2: behind that, you know, try mc guffy definitely matches up
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Speaker 2: better with Devonte Smith. So if the Chiefs feel like
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Speaker 2: they can go to those matchups more, they need to
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Speaker 2: trust these outside cornerbacks that have been kind of hit
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Speaker 2: or miss all year. It's been kind of a rotating
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Speaker 2: spot for them in terms of the guys behind McDuffie,
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Speaker 2: Jalen Watson, Joshua Williams both similar corners in terms of
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Speaker 2: physically built, you know, longer guys, guys that can compete
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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage and at the catch point.
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Speaker 2: And so they may say, hey, look, you know, we're
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Speaker 2: just gonna trust you to try to beat up AJ
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Speaker 2: Brown as much as you can, and you know, we'll
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Speaker 2: live with the fifty to fifty balls if they come down. Yeah,
15:42
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is AJ Brown is much more
15:44
Speaker 2: than a a downfield receiver. So that's where the slants
15:47
Speaker 2: are going to be, you know, a big thing. So
15:50
Speaker 2: it's a lot of health defense too, and they have
15:52
Speaker 2: they do have some of one of the most instinctal
15:54
Speaker 2: safeties in my opinion in the NFL. In terms of
15:56
Speaker 2: Justin Reid, you know, he just plays such a he's
15:59
Speaker 2: such a chess piece. You know, he kind of knows tendencies,
16:02
Speaker 2: knows what to take away, and so he's going to
16:04
Speaker 2: present problems over the middle for Jalen Hurts. But this
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Speaker 2: Chief defensive giving up a lot of yards and touchdowns
16:10
Speaker 2: to tight ends this year, and so you know he
16:12
Speaker 2: will be occupied with Dallas Goddard. But the linebackers too.
16:15
Speaker 2: That's where I think the Chiefs they almost kind of
16:18
Speaker 2: sacrifice the tight end sometimes because hey, we do have
16:21
Speaker 2: to make sure we got everyone else covered and maybe
16:23
Speaker 2: blits in. But you know, you don't want to you
16:26
Speaker 2: don't want to do that too much against a guy
16:27
Speaker 2: like Goddard, you know, where he can make the most
16:29
Speaker 2: of plays, he can force mistackles. So there are a
16:33
Speaker 2: lot of matchups in this game that you know, lean
16:35
Speaker 2: towards the Eagles a little bit just because again, like
16:38
Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie is a stud, but AJ Brown is kind
16:41
Speaker 2: of the one kind type of receiver that can really
16:43
Speaker 2: give him trouble. And so if you give him trouble,
16:45
Speaker 2: the rest of the secondary can be a little shaky. Too.
16:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's going to be interesting. You talk about
16:49
Speaker 1: those fifty to fifty balls and it's just amazing how
16:53
Speaker 1: you've got aj Brown who just goes up and he
16:55
Speaker 1: gets them. I mean he had his first two drops
16:57
Speaker 1: of the season in the playoffs against the ram. I
17:00
Speaker 1: mean he hadn't dropped a ball all season up until
17:04
Speaker 1: the playoff game against the Los Angeles Rams. So if
17:08
Speaker 1: those fifty to fifty balls do become prevalent in this game,
17:11
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see Trent McDuffie does with
17:15
Speaker 1: those type of balls. But again, folks, we're talking to
17:17
Speaker 1: Ron Cop Junior from Arrowheadpride dot com, great great SB
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Speaker 1: Nation site. Ron. Where can folks follow you out there
17:24
Speaker 1: on the interwebs. I know you're on Twitter, slash x
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Speaker 1: and not sure if you're on Blue Sky or threads
17:29
Speaker 1: or anything like that, So but throw out some stuff
17:31
Speaker 1: where some folks can find you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm still on x at ron in the score, Cop,
17:36
Speaker 2: but I do have a Blue Sky account and need
17:38
Speaker 2: to post there more. Yeah, post my story is there more?
17:41
Speaker 2: So Yeah, follow me there same at and everything Ron
17:44
Speaker 2: underscore Cop. But yeah, that's that's where the five Arrowheadpride
17:47
Speaker 2: dot com. We're getting ready for this game, got tons
17:49
Speaker 2: of stuff on the site ready to roll.
17:51
Speaker 1: Nice. I'm on Blue Sky and Threads, and I'm forgetting
17:53
Speaker 1: who I'm following. To be honest, I'm like, it's way
17:55
Speaker 1: too much. It's way too much, right, Yeah, exactly, that's
17:59
Speaker 1: the problem. Yeah, I'm not even sure if I'm following you.
18:02
Speaker 1: I gotta go back and check after we get done here.
18:04
Speaker 1: But anyway, before I let you go, buddy, you know,
18:08
Speaker 1: I recently read a piece that you put up on
18:10
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Pride about both the Eagles and the Chiefs culture
18:13
Speaker 1: really being a huge reason why both teams have made
18:16
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl here in twenty twenty five.
18:19
Speaker 1: During the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season. It
18:22
Speaker 1: really seems that both teams culture can be felt from
18:26
Speaker 1: the top down. As you wrote in that piece, you know,
18:30
Speaker 1: regardless of how this game goes at the end of
18:32
Speaker 1: the day, whoever wins, how do you see the culture
18:36
Speaker 1: of both teams really heading into the future and really
18:39
Speaker 1: what it means for both organizations.
18:42
Speaker 2: Well, it was a kind of a cool piece to
18:43
Speaker 2: wright because Mark Donovan is someone that spent time with
18:45
Speaker 2: the Eagles organization in the front office for a while.
18:48
Speaker 2: And it is funny he actually came over to the
18:50
Speaker 2: Chiefs before Andy Reid did, and then they kind of,
18:52
Speaker 2: you know, pair it up after that, and he's been
18:55
Speaker 2: the president since twenty eleven of the Chiefs and you know,
18:58
Speaker 2: just just it kind of just from reminds you of
19:01
Speaker 2: the reasons why, you know, the great teams do get
19:03
Speaker 2: to these points you know, multiple times maybe where which
19:06
Speaker 2: both teams have in the same tenure. You know, there's
19:09
Speaker 2: a lot of talented NFL players. There was a lot
19:11
Speaker 2: of talented guys across the league, and you know, I
19:13
Speaker 2: just talked about how my homes you know, wasn't even
19:15
Speaker 2: one of the best statistical players in the NFL this year.
19:17
Speaker 2: But you know, these these culture things, these these these
19:20
Speaker 2: culture comes down to these great players. It spreads to
19:23
Speaker 2: the role players, right, It spreads to guys that you
19:26
Speaker 2: don't think maybe you know, you don't think to make
19:28
Speaker 2: a play, and all of a sudden they do because
19:29
Speaker 2: they're confident. Because you know, a great example of that
19:31
Speaker 2: from the Chiefs run was Nico Romihio had you know,
19:34
Speaker 2: a really big pup return this last week. He's a
19:37
Speaker 2: is his first year, second year undrafted free agent, someone
19:40
Speaker 2: that just shined in training camp has them as much
19:42
Speaker 2: for the team. Travis Kelcey after he fair Catt in
19:45
Speaker 2: the first one, was like, hey, dude, like, we're trying
19:47
Speaker 2: to be great here, Like, you know, that's not great
19:48
Speaker 2: fair catching that, And the next one he took forty
19:51
Speaker 2: yards and set up a big play. You know, It's
19:54
Speaker 2: culture does come from the top down, and both teams
19:57
Speaker 2: have it from the front office, the coaches to the players,
19:59
Speaker 2: and it really is there's no coincidence that both teams
20:03
Speaker 2: are back here after a couple of years. Obviously the Chiefs,
20:06
Speaker 2: you know, but just in terms of both teams, both cultures,
20:09
Speaker 2: and I think there's no reason why we may not
20:12
Speaker 2: see this matchup again, Jeff, I could see absolutely, we'll
20:15
Speaker 2: see us talking sometime in the future as well.
20:17
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely again, folks. Ron copp Junior from Arrowheadpride dot Com,
20:22
Speaker 1: my friend, it was great talking to you. Thanks so
20:24
Speaker 1: much for jumping on the Opposition Territory pod this week,
20:26
Speaker 1: and let's definitely talk down talk to each other down
20:28
Speaker 1: the road. Even during the offseason. We'll get we'll do
20:31
Speaker 1: some examination of where the Chiefs are at after this
20:35
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'd love to have you back, my friend.
20:37
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you very much, Jeff.
20:39
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