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Why Are We Grossed Out? And The Science of the "Ick" 🧬🤮 · Arguing Ever After

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We are at a bonus episode. Yay for bonuses.
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What that means is that it's going to be an episode that'll
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For sure. This could drop in a week.
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It could drop in two years. We don't know.
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So it's sort of fun to just have this sitting there and we'll
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find out whenever this happens. Earlier today, though, our
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daughter and me, our daughter and I went to the grocery store
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and we were walking down. It was actually really full.
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And I don't like it when the grocery store is full of a lot
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of people. I feel like most people don't
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like it. Some of us don't care.
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I really don't care. Really you like if there's like
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4 people with carts down the aisle it doesn't bother you?
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I don't, Nope, really. Nodding a little bit just fine.
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It's fine. Well, it was really busy and it
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shouldn't have been to me at that time because like it's, it
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was close to dinner time and usually it's not that busy at
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the grocery store on a weekend at dinner time anyhow.
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But we had been there were a couple times we were walking by
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the same people, all of that. And and she gets as frustrated
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apparently as I do with walking down the grocery aisles.
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And as we were walking down this one aisle, well, we were at the
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one end and there was another guy at the other end and he
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started coughing and like making weird like clearing of his
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throat sounds. And so we were kind of waiting
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until he was done coughing before we were going to walk by
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him. Because.
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He was coughing. He wasn't covering his mouth.
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I guess I should have said that too.
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So he stopped. And then as soon as we were
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like, right there, right? I mean, there's grocery owls
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aren't very big. You're within a foot of each
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other sometimes he starts coughing again as we're walking
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by. And we were both so grossed out.
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It was it was awful. I mean, I but it's amazing is
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that I feel like nowadays, since the great what bad times
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everybody knows the. Bad times.
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Since the bad times, everybody knows to cover your mouth, you
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know, like this is this this? Man, that's not true.
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I really. Well, obviously.
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I mean, but I feel I mean. I'd be willing to bet if people
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are better at it. Sounds like you need to cover
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your cough. I need to.
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I think people are better at it and maybe that just makes it
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that much worse when you do see it.
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It got me thinking, when I if I'm coughing at home alone, do I
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cover my mouth? I don't.
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I don't either and I don't know why, but if I'm around other
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people I don't want to share my germs with them.
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Checks out. So it's just interesting.
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I mean, I apparently this guy was in the grocery store all by
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himself in his mind because he was just hacking away.
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But I get if you don't have the ability to stop it, right?
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Like cool, that's fine. But that's why you have the
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courtesy of covering your mouth. But this is where getting sick
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comes from, is catching things from other people.
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But it kind of actually let us or was good, good timing for all
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of you because our topic today is going to be about things that
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are disgusting. Coughing in the grocery store.
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Yeah. You know what's weird?
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I got to make a confession right here, Not live, but on the
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podcast is if I don't cough very often, but like if I have a
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clear your throat cough, I don't cover that even if I'm in public
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next to somebody. Really.
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Yeah. Only if I know that it's a cough
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that is related to some sort of cold, then I do.
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But like if I just as an example, I'm walking down the
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grocery store aisle and whatever, get a tickle in my
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throat or something, which does happen, then I'll just like have
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a couple little clearing coughs and don't care and I'm going to
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move on. And it is what it is and.
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Maybe that's what was going on with this guy, but.
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Doesn't sound like it. I mean, it sounds like he had
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something productive going on. Right.
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Well, I'll tell you, I feel like there's no way that me and
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someone walking by you would know that.
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So just, you know, people might be disgusted by you.
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Feel like that's their problem. I mean, yeah, I guess but but I
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don't really think that. But it got me really kind of
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going down this thought of things, you know, and and
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disgust and what that is all of that.
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And I found a quote that I really liked and I don't know
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why it's. It's from some doctor fella.
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This is not what this doctor fella.
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Wrote. This is a different this is from
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the Google AI. Yes, disgust is a rapid gut
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feeling that works as an emotional eject button to
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protect against physical or moral danger.
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And I like that term because. Moral danger.
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Yes, disgust can be two things for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah, and you can absolutely be
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disgusted by someone's behavior. Yeah, and decisions and
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whatever. Yeah, well, so there's a a
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Doctor Who discusses a lot about disgust.
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He discusses disgust. Yes, he he researches disgust
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and his. Does he find it disgusting?
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Because he's disgusting. Come on, that was good.
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What rap song is that discussing?
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Because I'm disgusting. It's Eminem.
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Ah, see, OK, so we're, we're in in our podcast, we're going to
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quote Eminem, the great Eminem, and we're going to talk about
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Doctor Ross. Michigan.
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He's from Detroit. Of course we do.
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We have a really good friend in Michigan.
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I just wanted to chat. Every once in a while,
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frequently. A really, really good friend.
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A good. Friend.
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Hi good friend. And we know that you're there
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listening, but Doctor Rosin from the University of Pennsylvania
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has done a lot of research on disgust Upenn.
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They're a big deal. Well, OK, I'm sure.
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Academically speaking, they probably have some sports.
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I don't know a lot about college sports.
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Penn State, it's a different place.
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Upenn and Penn State. Penn State has some sort of team
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thing. Because I feel like I've heard
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about this. Sure, And they might.
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Be both of them do even. But I feel like it might be a
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good team. Sorry, Pennsylvanians out there
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listening, if you're mad at us right now, we don't live there
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and we don't follow the sports. No, but that's OK because I
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couldn't tell you anything about the teams that exist here in our
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own great state, except for maybe their names.
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Like their team names, but not anything more than that.
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I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you if they're
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good or bad, although I think they're kind of good a couple of
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them. Philadelphia Eagles.
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There you go. They're in Pennsylvania.
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Right. And the Philadelphia Phillies is
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their baseball team. Yeah, that's baseball.
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Yeah, I mean, that sounds right to me.
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Good. It definitely does, I feel like.
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Yeah, Pittsburgh. Steelers.
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He threw me off. I was going to do the hockey. 10
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Penguins. Oh, cute, huh?
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That's a cute name for hockey team.
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Isn't it just cute little Penguins?
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Little. Penguins.
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Now I'm thinking. About now, I want to see Penguin
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hockey. I know.
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That would be amazing. Give them little sticks and just
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have just just going. Penguins are truly dumb and
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disgusting birds. So.
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Oh, are they they? Really.
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Are they really are. Thanks for.
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Bringing us back on track. Yeah, I years ago, I've said it
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a couple times, did some volunteering at a zoo where we
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had Penguins and they are just really dirty, disgusting.
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And it really, really, really stupid.
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Really stupid. I mean bird.
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Brain, it's that old. You know, but I mean like bird
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poop everywhere. Just.
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The only reason regular birds don't disgust you in the same
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way is because they fly their poop around.
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Yeah, yeah. Have you ever been pooped on by
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a bird? Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I own a
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Jeep Wrangler. It's for sure.
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Yep. Well, you know, it's a sign of
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good luck some places. Why I don't?
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Know because the odds are bad that it's going to happen.
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And I don't think they're that bad.
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Feel like most people have been pooped on by a bird, right?
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But I mean have. You been pooped on by.
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A bird I have. I have.
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You owned a Jeep Wrangler? Well, yeah, but it actually
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happened to me in Mexico. Yeah, I.
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Would not remember that. Because it didn't happen to you,
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it happened to me. Sure.
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Well, what were you doing? Sitting at the airport, huh?
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I know not where you would think.
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No, well outside of the airport. No right, but same I would think
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like birds in general would stay away from the airport because of
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insane wind that comes out of a turbine engine you.
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Know what I mean? These are little little.
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Jet engines? Sorry.
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Turbine engines, Maybe not the same thing.
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I. Don't know but they're like low
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low. Turbine engines.
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I'm not a rocket scientist. What's that thing?
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Altitude. Low altitude birds, yeah.
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So are planes when they're on the ground.
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Yeah, but I mean, they're like when they're on the ground,
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that's not I feel like. Like landing and taking off.
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Also, birds fly high. They do.
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Like eagles, for instance, sure fly real high.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't even know where
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we're. Going Philadelphia Eagles.
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Yes, they they also poop. The football team, yes.
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Good. OK, I'm.
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Certain of it. Yeah, that's a good bet.
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I'm certain of it. But you know, that's it.
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It's probably not something that people talk about.
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We don't need to. I mean, people don't like
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talking about poop, but little kids love joking about poop and
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farts. That's true, and parents of
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little kids talk about poop a lot.
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They do. It's a big deal.
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I remember talking about poop. Yeah, I do too.
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A lot. With you even.
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A lot. And like some of the things
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that. Yeah.
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All your parents out there are laughing right now knowing what
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we're talking about. You've talked about consistency
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and color and all kinds of stop Just you.
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No, no, we've graduated. It's I.
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Know, I know, but I remember. This is so disgusting.
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Oh. God, we're going to have people
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turn off right now. They're turning it off.
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They're. Turning it off, but you know
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when your child goes to the bathroom in the potty chair in
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the beginning. It's so exciting.
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It's. So exciting.
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It's not. It is.
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It is. It is, you notice.
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If you keep going, I'll check back in in a.
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Minute, he's not going to listen.
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I'm going to get someone to turn off right now.
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Well, please come back because we don't always talk about this
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stuff. Come back to the next episode or
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go back to the other. One, it's the worst bonus
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episode. We're like, it's a bonus.
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Yay. Now let's talk about poop in
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detail. I was so excited when our oh,
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she's going to kill me. She doesn't she.
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She's no, she's yeah, she got whatever episodes in and was
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like, I know you guys, I'm over it.
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I was so excited when she first pooped in the potty that I took
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a picture and I sent it to you. And you know what?
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Traumatic memory. It's gone.
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Don't. I don't remember it.
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You did. I did.
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What kind of? Weird.
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Proud of. Her.
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Oh my. He could have just sent a text.
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Yay, here's the information. Nope, your sick self was like I
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know what I'm going to do. Going to take a picture, Send a
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picture. Yeah, yeah.
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You know what? Gross.
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Thank God for the ability to take a picture of absolutely
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anything. This is not a thank God moment.
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That's not what this is. It's like, thank God, yeah, I
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got a promotion. That's a moment.
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Yeah, yeah. No, no, you can.
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I got some great healthy news about life.
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Or no? You said thank God for pictures
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of poop. Yeah, pictures of poop.
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You know what's interesting? Like, Oh, I feel like our.
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We for sure are down to 1 listener maybe.
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Oh. But I feel like you don't,
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you're not like you remember. Well, you don't remember.
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You Live Today and you'll have like all the pictures from the
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film pictures that you took and you start flipping through them.
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Could you imagine like in 200 years flipping through pictures
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and all of a sudden you're like, why is there poop in a potty
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chair? What's going on?
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Like, why would anyone do you know?
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Just some things I feel like future people who would be
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looking, Thank God it isn't on film because could you imagine
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what everybody's taking pictures of?
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Like just happened to come upon it all the time.
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I would not want to be the future archaeologist that
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unravels the lives. They're just all shaking their
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heads. That's a pretty tame thing, I
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think, to find on a picture. But it was.
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Yeah, that was a time. It was one of those things.
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I mean, I think probably because I had been changing her diapers
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for so long, I was desensitized to the concept of it.
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Today I would not take that picture.
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That's a good call. I would not.
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Thanks. That'd also be extra weird.
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Would be. Just OK.
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I'll tell you what what? Else you got today.
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I. Don't know man.
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But I'll tell you what, if my mom's listening, she's no longer
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listening for sure. Yep, That's a moment.
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It's very much my family, but I think everybody has.
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I don't know. Do you never talk about that
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with anybody? Do you ever?
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You must. You were a boy.
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You must have laughed about those things.
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Kids laugh about that stuff, no? Sure.
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No, OK. I just don't know that I want to
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keep talking about it right now on the podcast.
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Great, but our episode is about disgust.
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It's not about poop. No, it's not about poop, I said.
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Disgust. You know what else you're
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talking about? Way less gross.
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It's not. It's not, is less gross.
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Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that.
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Well, who doesn't agree with that?
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I think snot's pretty. Can we have that be the
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question? Which is more gross, snot or
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poop? I'm going to win.
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Oh, that's I mean. Leave for sure.
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Interesting. My God, I hope we have another
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bonus episode. And that's the question.
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Another bonus gross episode. Well, maybe not.
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I don't know. Does the world need to?
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No, probably not. They sure don't need you going
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on about it more. I don't.
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Know if they need one Well anyhow, so this doctor that I
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was talking about earlier, right, his whole job is to
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figure out like and like and study disgust and things like
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that OK and I had found him very fascinating.
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He talked about, you know, kind of some certain concepts that we
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have and I'm not going to go into it because I will, we will
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lose some listeners, but the concept of water and how
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actually water is really disgusting because like all the
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water we have today existed once before.
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But it's purified by the process of Earth doing its thing.
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Yep, but it's still gross. Well, by that measure,
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everything is gross. The water I drink today it I
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don't want to talk about. I don't even.
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Want the clothes you're wearing? The couch you're sitting on?
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The dog you pet every day. Well, the dog, the air.
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You breathe the earth you walk on.
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It's all gross if you really get down to like, energy and
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molecular recycling. And of course.
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It's all gross. Well, this guy was talking about
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a lot of times what grosses people out is it's more what
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happens with other people or outside factors.
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The internal factors like if it comes of you, it's not as gross
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as it would be coming out of somebody else.
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Like blood is gross to people, but farts?
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Farts. Exactly.
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Just want to see that for the record.
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OK, we had walked away from that, Luke.
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As a kid. And you brought it back.
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Nope, I'm moving on. Yep.
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Yep, because they're. Disgusting too.
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Anyhow, so he was talking about how something that's really
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interesting that people. I'm laughing about farts.
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I'm such a child. I'm.
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Laughing. We're talking about doctors.
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Doctors. Let's talk about doctors.
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So we're talking about. Science of disgust.
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The science. We're talking about science
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right now. We're good, Good.
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Serious. I know.
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Let's get serious about. Science.
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And so he was talking about how disgust is something that we
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learn we're not innately born with.
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OK, Like it's and disgust is actually also something that has
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evolved in humans. OK, as like I said earlier, that
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super great quote to you know kind of keep you if.
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You really want the eject button.
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I want the eject button. Yeah, like when I was in that
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grocery store walking down that aisle.
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Just. Boom, the guy is not coughing at
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me and he's gone. Right.
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Yep, I don't know. I really.
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Like I'd like an eject button for other people too.
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I. Really.
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I really like the idea of a eject button.
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But anyhow, he was talking about like that this is a thing.
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I mean, babies learn disgust from their parents.
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Sure, they learn the look of disgust from their parents, but
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in general, like that isn't that isn't something that happens.
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And This is why other animals don't show disgust.
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And they do some really gross things.
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Sure, we have moral disgust, like things that are disgusting
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to us morally, of course, that make no sense, right?
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Like, if you think about right, eating meat, kind of gross if
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you really think about it, but you're not grossed out by eating
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meat. But if I were to, say, eat the
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eyeball of a cow, you're suddenly like, whoa, that's
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disgusting. But not everywhere.
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Right. Not everywhere, right?
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It's also partly cultural, right?
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I mean, not, I mean they're general or universal things.
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And we stopped talking about the number one universal thing about
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3 minutes ago. So I'm not going back to that.
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But but like how there is that. But one of the things he was, he
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had in his. Just thinking about foods.
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Yeah, there's really like it. Literally common thing.
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Yeah, cow tongue. Yeah, cow tongue.
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Gross. People like it Like it's a like
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really big thing, you know, and like what changes things and
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make things disgusting, right. Like if you have, I'll talk
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about another. I'll go back to the other thing
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I was thinking about earlier. But like, if you have a, we're
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going to talk about a glass of water.
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OK. If a bug falls into your glass
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of water, yeah, it is immediately disgusting, sure,
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and you no longer can have it. Most of us, probably.
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Right. I mean, unless you're really
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thirsty, you're not going to be scooping out the bug, you know?
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I mean, I feel like I probably have scooped a bug out of a
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drink in my life, maybe. I mean.
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Probably. Well, how about this?
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You're right with the water and we'll get back to it.
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But like, you're outdoors and you're eating and a family lands
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on your food. You swish the fly away and you
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keep eating. Everybody does that.
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I mean, I really stay away from that bite.
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No, you don't. I do.
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No, you don't. I don't eat outside.
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I've watched you eat outside and this is the thing everybody
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does, that you swish away the fly and then you eat the food.
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I mean. Anyway, glass of water.
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OK. Oh.
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So anyhow, like I said earlier, I was talking about if it comes
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from you, it is not as disgusting or sometimes not
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disgusting at all. And he said that virtually
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everybody would be disgusted to spit in their own glass of water
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and drink it. And I fully agree that is
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disgusting. I would not do it.
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Don't do that. But think about it logically.
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Why? Because it's gross.
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But the spit is already in your mouth.
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But you made it exit your mouth. But you need the spit to digest
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things, so it literally its entire job is to use itself to
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make the stuff go down. Your scientifics?
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Maybe I'm not as. No, I need to drink a water.
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Yeah, don't spit in it first, but but yeah, so like, why?
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Why would that be gross? It would be totally disgusting
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and there's no logical reason to allow someone else to spit in
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your water and drink it. But like, there's no rational
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reason as to why that would be bad.
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But you know, I'm not going to do it.
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We're not going to do it. Almost no one would do that,
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right? So that tells me that some
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reasons of disgust are thoroughly illogical.
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Sure, because there is no logic that would say that you should
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have anything that would stop you from drinking that water.
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It literally already is in there.
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It's going to be in there. It's a logical argument.
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Yeah, so. Doesn't change the facts though.
22:11
No, but it should. Just spit in your water and go.
22:17
Well, no big. Deal.
22:19
Oh, I feel like that would be a really good prank if you get
22:22
past it. You know we're never pranking
22:26
each other. What are you talking about?
22:28
I. Don't know.
22:30
I mean, if anyone, because it didn't say everybody, it did say
22:34
most people couldn't do it. You know, hey, test your own
22:39
logic, test your own brain power.
22:40
Can you do it? I don't know.
22:41
I don't know if I can do it. I don't know.
22:45
You for sure couldn't. You don't even finish the last
22:48
portion of your drinks because, you know, yeah, that some of it
22:52
is. Backwash.
22:53
Backwash. Yeah, Yeah.
22:54
I won't do it. It's it's disgusting.
22:56
I do and I don't care not. Seeing not.
22:58
Just because. Because it's mostly still the
23:01
thing I'm drinking. Yeah, even though I know part of
23:03
it is spit. I mean, that's logical.
23:06
Logical. I can't get past it though.
23:08
Huh. Huh, Well, I don't know.
23:11
I wouldn't recommend anybody do it, but also I kind of want to
23:13
see someone do it in front of someone else and see what their
23:15
reaction. Is oh God, well, you know what
23:18
mine is because I just did it. I was like, why no, you don't
23:22
have to drink that are. You sure?
23:25
There's more water. So gross.
23:30
Back to water. Think about it when we were kids
23:31
and we drink out of the hose, right?
23:33
I wouldn't eat dirt, but I drink out of the hose.
23:35
It was literally just sitting on the ground.
23:37
Water tastes better than dirt. Well, but my mouth is then
23:40
touching the hose that was touching the ground.
23:43
OK. Why is that suddenly OK?
23:46
I don't know, because you're a kid.
23:47
You just said it's learned. Would you drink out of a hose
23:50
today? No, because it was on the
23:53
ground. There you go, touching the dirt.
23:55
See my thing would be about spiders because spiders like
23:57
water hoses and I'm not trying to get no spider webs in my
24:00
mouth The. Itsy bitsy spider.
24:02
Yep, he likes the water. Spouts sure does.
24:05
Oh, interesting. I mean, it's not that many
24:08
spiders that. We don't even talk about
24:10
spiders. Oh gosh, are you disgusted by
24:14
spiders or scared of them? I'm.
24:16
Not disgusted by spiders. That's a good question.
24:20
I feel like I would need time to think about it.
24:22
They're just all wrong, so. Yeah, I mean eject, right?
24:27
Why does it have 8 legs? You know what I'm saying?
24:29
Why? Who doesn't need them?
24:31
No, he might be disgusted because it is to protect against
24:35
physical or moral danger. It's a moral danger.
24:42
That's what those are. They're morally corrupt.
24:45
Yeah, yeah, they, I mean, I don't mind them, but but there's
24:49
many good reasons for disgust. It does keep us safe in many
24:53
ways. Like you were talking earlier
24:54
about, you know, like you having zero knowledge about about meat,
25:00
like explain your thoughts on that.
25:02
But that you can smell something.
25:05
Oh, right, right, right. So, So I am not nor have I ever
25:09
been like a chef or a food educated, like a food scientist
25:16
or whatever. And there have on more than one
25:20
occasion. But specifically the one that
25:22
sticks out to me was once there was pork that we had in the
25:27
fridge. And I learned after that day
25:31
they if you put pork in the fridge and each like type of
25:34
meat has a different type of life in the fridge, but
25:38
specifically pork, like if you leave it in the fridge, you're
25:42
supposed to use it. I think it's by the third day,
25:45
but it's obviously everything is best fresh so you want to use it
25:48
right away. But I think it had been in the
25:50
fridge for like 3 days, maybe 4. I don't think it was longer than
25:54
that. But I opened the package and I
25:57
smelled it like I could smell something was off.
26:00
And so then I got closer to like give it a sniff and then I was
26:04
like, oh, that smells bad. So that's probably this learned
26:09
disgust thing where you have like in your, in your
26:11
evolutionary system where like somehow my body knows that that
26:17
smell might make me sick. So I'm disgusted by the smell.
26:21
You know, you wrinkle your nose and you say you and and then I
26:24
threw it out. I was like, I don't want to make
26:26
this. I'm I'm going to get sick if I
26:28
eat this in my evolved disgust brain and I I found that to be
26:35
interesting. So same thing I was talking
26:37
about like the difference like uncooked for me anyway,
26:41
hamburger or or beef, I don't like the smell of it, but cooked
26:47
I do and it's probably a similar thing.
26:50
I'm certain that there's more risk of contamination or
26:55
sickness from eating raw meat than there is from eating cooked
26:59
meat. As you know, we all learn and
27:00
know. Yeah.
27:01
Yeah. So there's something that must
27:03
tell you. Raw meat bad.
27:06
With the odd exception of sushi. Nope, no, no.
27:09
Well, not for you, but I don't mind the smell of raw sushi.
27:15
Yeah, yeah, no, it smells terrible.
27:17
Do you dislike the smell of like raw?
27:19
Like live, not raw, live fish. Do I?
27:23
Like the smell of. A No.
27:25
Are you disgusted by it? Like a fish you catch out of the
27:28
water? OK, It smells bad.
27:31
Doesn't bother me. That's weird.
27:34
You're more evolved. I am more evolved and I, I
27:36
became even more evolved when I was pregnant and I had super
27:41
sense of like it was a, it was like a superpower and all of a
27:46
sudden everything was so much more fragrant and it didn't like
27:52
I have sinus issues. So in general, there are times
27:56
where you know, like I'm, I probably didn't smell a lot of
27:58
things, but ever since I, I mean, I don't have that super
28:01
sense of smell like that super super.
28:03
It's it's super though still it's still.
28:06
You didn't say super. It's still enhanced from before
28:10
I was pregnant, but there were several foods that I would eat
28:13
that before I was pregnant. Loved them once I got pregnant
28:16
and I was smelling and I was like, oh, can't do it, can't do
28:19
it. Lunch meat was one of those
28:20
things. I mean, I used to love like a
28:22
croissant sandwich. Oh, that sounds really good.
28:26
Oh, a good croissant sandwich. It's been a minute.
28:28
I might need to get some, but I couldn't eat that meat during
28:33
the whole pregnancy. I so but then afterwards some
28:37
point, you know, some of that sense of smell got away, but it
28:40
was 100% like danger. Don't do it, you know.
28:44
So I found that. It makes sense that you would be
28:46
more sense like strong and discussed, you know, reaction to
28:55
foods because you're trying to keep a whole system going.
28:59
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but that's kind of a
29:02
like, what's my superpower? I smell?
29:08
People get that too. I mean, everyone gets it with
29:10
spoiled milk or other dairy or like, yeah, yeah, you can just
29:15
tell if something smells wrong and you're like, well, I can't
29:17
eat that. So, but these are some universal
29:20
things, right? Yeah.
29:21
So look, let me ask you a question.
29:24
Oh, OK, and now the the moment you've all been waiting for.
29:28
Ladies and gentlemen in this corner claiming to weigh in at
29:31
135 lbs, we have the venerable raining.
29:36
Well, well, I don't know when this episode's going to air.
29:38
She's been whooping me for a while.
29:40
Maybe I'm caught up by this episode.
29:42
I hope so. We don't know.
29:43
But right now, the venerable champion in our current
29:46
relationship status. Thank you as of this.
29:48
Recording. Thank you.
29:50
We have Amber. All right, and in this corner
29:53
I'm going to give you some props and say that you probably want a
29:56
few more. Oh, I like that.
29:58
Why'd you wink at the camera though?
30:01
Don't do that. It's sneaky.
30:02
The audio listener can't see your sneaky winks.
30:06
That's messed up. But you're sitting over here,
30:11
you got a little grossed out by me earlier.
30:19
Anyhow. Yeah, for sure.
30:21
You're coming in though, but you're not looking gross at all.
30:24
You're looking. Good, not disgusted by.
30:26
Me. I'm not.
30:27
Disgusted. This is a plus.
30:29
But you've come here today. You.
30:30
Didn't even wink at the camera. I did.
30:32
I not. You didn't.
30:34
We'll have to check the footage. Check the footage.
30:38
You're coming in and I've got a question for you.
30:41
OK in this. Corner Luke for you.
30:43
Here we go. We've been talking about things
30:46
that disgust us. What is something that disgusts
30:50
you that does not disgust everybody else or does not
30:58
disgust the people who are doing it?
31:01
Oh, OK. That's a fair question.
31:04
But that's not the question. This is a versus battle, right
31:08
Of the who's picked the yeah, Disgustinger of the two more.
31:12
Disgustinger of the two. Most disgustingest anyway, it's.
31:17
Good, gooder. Disgusting.
31:18
There's a dog in the background who just made a disgusting odor.
31:22
She did. Thanks.
31:23
Dog in background? Well, the the that was a weirdly
31:30
worded question. I thought it was worded.
31:32
Perfectly disgusts me. That doesn't disgust the one
31:36
who? Does it?
31:37
Yeah. Does it?
31:38
Yeah. How about just a thing that
31:40
disgusts me? Because really the question is a
31:41
versus battle that's still accurate, your description, but
31:44
it's just throwing me off. So things that disgust me are
31:48
many, I'm certain. One that disgusts me often, and
31:57
this is maybe going to bother many of our listeners.
32:01
OK. 00. Look at you getting
32:03
controversial. Because it's.
32:05
Often are you going to get canceled?
32:07
No, OK. I mean, maybe by gross men.
32:13
And yeah, I just called you out. If you're out there and you're a
32:16
dude and you're listening to this, you're nasty if you do
32:20
this. OK, so everyone goes to the
32:23
bathroom, right? I thought we were stopping
32:26
talking about the bathroom. We're we stopped talking about
32:30
part of that operation, OK, the the.
32:33
For the record, Luke brought it back up.
32:36
Well, because it's this is the thing that disgusts me that I've
32:40
chosen as my topic to to throw the gauntlet down with.
32:44
So it actually could be technically both operations, but
32:48
in any event, great. That pause was for just reality
32:55
for a minute. So I don't know because I don't
33:00
find myself in a woman's bathroom how often this may
33:03
happen there. But for for men, I will say that
33:09
it is a shockingly common occurrence that a man goes to
33:15
the bathroom, in a public place no less.
33:19
I mean, like maybe I'd find some exception with that home, but I
33:22
don't 'cause I don't live on my own.
33:24
Maybe if you lived on your own. Nope, it's still gross.
33:27
OK, sorry. I was trying to find a way out
33:29
to make it feel better and it just doesn't.
33:30
So in a public place, if I go to a men's room, I frequently I
33:37
couldn't put a number on it, but it's too much see other men
33:42
using the bathroom in any of its capacity and walking right past
33:46
the sink, no washing of the hands right out the door.
33:51
And I am always disgusted by it like I have been forever and
33:57
ever. I also like I don't like it when
34:00
a bathroom doesn't have a trash can near the exit door because I
34:05
see guys not washing their hands after they've just been doing
34:09
all kind of what not touching their business and wiping their
34:12
who knows and listen. And then you just leave and
34:14
touch the door handle. Like, man, come on, what are you
34:18
trying to? I don't want to touch none of
34:20
that. Keep it to yourself.
34:23
That's what the soap is for. They put the sink in the
34:27
bathroom for a reason, people. It's not to just walk past it.
34:32
So it happens all the time. And like, I know people
34:37
personally, like I'm not going to name names or say how I know
34:42
these people 'cause I know lots of people so that there's no
34:45
names or whatever, but. Will you tell me in private?
34:48
Sure. I don't want to know.
34:49
You don't want to know. Actually, I'm not going to tell
34:51
you no, 'cause you're going to be like aw, so.
34:53
Like wash your hands like. Who we're not, we got a we're
34:57
no, we're not naming names anyway.
34:59
So I know people who do not I there are people who I know who
35:06
have, I have never seen them wash their hands and I have seen
35:09
them in the public men's best restroom multiple times never.
35:15
And I just don't get it. Like, first of all, if you do
35:19
the washing, right, like we learned in the dark times in
35:23
COVID, 20 seconds plus maybe you add another 10 for turning the
35:27
faucet on a white, wiping your hands when you're done,
35:29
whatever. Like, so it's 30 seconds, right?
35:32
It's not a big commitment. It's not a lot of time.
35:35
If you aggregate the data, you're not going to be like, oh,
35:37
boy, I wish I wouldn't have washed my hands all my life.
35:40
I could have saved 20 minutes. Like, it's a very small amount
35:43
of time. And as we pointed out earlier,
35:46
it prevents disease. It prevents all kinds of things.
35:51
So the fact that people aren't just making it a default to wash
35:54
their hands baffles me. And I don't know that I find
35:59
many things more disgusting because it's so common and it's
36:03
so like everywhere. Doesn't matter what state I'm
36:07
in, doesn't matter whether I'm in a fancy restaurant or a the
36:12
ball game. Like it literally doesn't matter
36:15
where you go. The dudes are just not.
36:19
I would not say I don't know if it's 5050, but it's not.
36:22
It's not surprising to see someone not wash their hands.
36:26
I've even heard people I've said stuff every once in awhile and I
36:29
had the argument come back one time.
36:32
Well, I took a shower today so my parts are clean.
36:34
It's like what? What about the rest of what just
36:38
happened? Do you not know how science
36:41
works? And molecules And like anyway,
36:45
anyway, so that's that's my thing and it's nasty.
36:49
So OK, I'm just going to ask 2 follow up questions.
36:53
I can answer questions that's. Fine, and I'm going to.
36:56
I'm mad about everything right now.
36:57
Dispel A myth that you have. It happens in the women's room
37:02
too. Not 50% of the time, but I would
37:05
say, you know, every 10th time I'm in the bathroom there's a
37:08
woman that's walking without washing her hands.
37:11
Nasty. It's yes, yes or yeah, Yeah.
37:14
And again, it's 30 seconds. Just wash your hands.
37:17
But remember, we talked about it's not as disgusting to you if
37:20
it's coming out of you. So they're probably like, you
37:23
know, no big deal. It's my, you know, whatever.
37:25
Well and to be fair, y'all aren't holding anything so.
37:30
Well, OK. Yeah, I'm just saying.
37:33
I know it's disgusting, yeah, but I gotta, I gotta just just
37:38
to play devil's advocate. For no good reason, there is no
37:42
good. Reason the devil doesn't need an
37:44
advocate. Wow.
37:46
But. Great movie sidebar.
37:51
I don't remember that movie. Really.
37:52
Al Pacino? No.
37:54
Played the devil I know who else?
37:55
Okay, carry on. When you.
37:58
How do you not know that movie, never mind carrying on?
38:00
So there have been a couple times I've been out like at
38:04
porta potties and they're out of the little things, the the hand
38:08
sanitizer porta potties, right? They're disgusting, right?
38:12
It's. Like the grossest thing.
38:14
I know. And to be out of.
38:16
That and to be out of that. So thankfully a lot of times I
38:19
do have the hand sanitizers sometimes I mean I don't, but
38:24
luckily whenever we've gone like cuz we go off roading and they
38:28
have the porta potties there, but luckily you have hand
38:31
sanitizer in your vehicle. I do.
38:32
So I'm safe there, right? But like still I'm like, there's
38:35
that, you know, 10 foot, 20 foot opportunity where I didn't have
38:41
my hands washed, you know, and you just feel like really yucky.
38:46
I'm not a camper. But what do you do when like
38:49
when you were a kid and you went camping, did you really carry a
38:52
round hand sanitizer? What'd you do?
38:54
I. Don't even know if hand
38:55
sanitizer was like a thing credibly.
38:57
Not I don't think we cared. We had soap.
39:01
You went to a place and washed your hands?
39:03
I don't know cuz I literally don't think.
39:05
So probably not OK. I mean cuz you're probably not
39:10
in a place that easily has yeah of huge supply.
39:14
I mean I did a lot of camping by lakes but I probably didn't go
39:17
down to the lake and wash my hands.
39:19
Also, kids are grosser than men. I think boys specifically are
39:25
grosser than men because they care even less so like I mean.
39:35
If you go camping today, would you bring hand sanitizer for?
39:38
That for sure. OK, I don't know I really have 0
39:43
desired. You do also, depending on what
39:44
you're doing camping, you bring soap with you because you know,
39:48
but soap is now unless, unless you're going for like a 2 day
39:51
and you know, you're just going to get stinky and gross and you
39:54
commit. I know people that do that.
39:56
We know people that do that and whatever if that's your deal, I
40:00
feel like that's slightly different and not that I'm
40:04
advocating for it, but like at least you're not walking past a
40:08
sink that has soap and running water.
40:10
OK, That's just so different. You have to pass it to get to
40:13
the door like. I agree.
40:15
I agree. How do you skip that part?
40:17
There's. No excuse there.
40:19
Really isn't. I can't like man.
40:23
And you're announcing to everybody else that you don't
40:25
wash your hands like the. Yeah, like it's just have you no
40:29
shame? The social contract you have
40:32
requires that you stop there and wash your hands.
40:35
Yeah, well, not for everyone, I guess.
40:38
I don't know. There's people shaming you,
40:40
looking at you. You should just do it.
40:42
That's my opinion now, obviously.
40:46
And then they touch the door handle.
40:48
And other things. Yeah.
40:50
Yeah, yeah, it's awful. OK, OK.
40:54
So that's pretty disgusting. And I also am grossed out every
40:57
time I see that happen in, well, any bathroom.
41:01
Well, now you know that it doesn't happen on the other
41:04
side. Right.
41:06
So wait, that means the door. Handle.
41:08
Going in is cleaner than the door handle going out.
41:14
Well, most like. In a men's room.
41:16
Yes, yeah, probably. That's gross, sorry y'all.
41:20
Sure, sorry y'all but luckily a lot of times you can push it
41:25
with your foot. I'm definitely if the if it
41:28
allows some of them have an interior pole to open situation.
41:32
Yeah, yeah. That's yeah, I.
41:34
Don't know. OK, so so that's a that's
41:37
disgusting. I agree.
41:38
That's disgusting for me, my thing that is disgusting to me,
41:43
but not to the perpetrator. And that's what I'm calling it.
41:47
OK, criminal. OK.
41:50
It is downright criminal. Yeah, is eating communal food.
41:56
OK. Licking your fingers and then
42:02
going back in with your fingers to eat communal food.
42:07
OK, that's gross. It's disgusting.
42:11
Yep, and I wish I could say I've seen it once or twice.
42:16
Yeah. Now I'm going to give these
42:21
people who I've seen do it the benefit of the doubt that they
42:25
don't realize that they're doing it, but it's still disgusting,
42:31
right? Like, I mean, here's a oh God,
42:32
there's this Doritos commercial right now.
42:34
I'd. Probably do that.
42:36
OK. Well, yes, you've done it
42:38
before. OK.
42:39
There's a Doritos commercial right now.
42:41
I don't know if you've seen it if you have.
42:42
Oh God, you're going to talk about this commercial?
42:46
No, Yes. It shouldn't even be a
42:48
commercial. Somebody in marketing needs to
42:50
get fired at Doritos. So for those of you who maybe
42:53
haven't seen it or so far in the future, right now, this is
42:56
dropped at this episode. By the just said current year
42:59
2026, yes. OK.
43:01
I don't know when you're listening to this.
43:03
There's this kid who's not kid. Adult.
43:06
He's an adult. He's an adult, sure, at a
43:09
Barber. Shop Young Adult.
43:10
Young adult at a Barber shop and.
43:14
It's so gross. He's getting his hair cut and
43:18
his Barber is, you know, like sitting there cutting his hair,
43:22
talking with people, eating Doritos, and that Dorito dust is
43:26
like, all over his fingers. Yep, as it gets.
43:29
As it gets and I mean I will lick some Dorito dust off my
43:35
fingers, sure common Dorito bag, but I will lick I mean like that
43:39
can be the best part, right like it's like oh, that's that's full
43:42
flavor, full concentration and. As he's cutting the dude.
43:45
'S hair the the other guy, the patron, the haircut, he just.
43:52
Sucks the finger and. Other guys, other guys.
43:55
Finger, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a disgusting
43:59
commercial, but it sticks with you.
44:01
And of course, everybody's reaction is like, Oh no, God.
44:06
Oh, I just don't even want to support them right now.
44:10
I know, but it's actually. Like, that's disgusting.
44:13
And that's, you know, especially if he had gone to the bathroom.
44:16
And not washed his hands. Oh God, I'm gonna.
44:20
Assume if he had it like I. Don't know that's where it went
44:25
too far right there, but it. Sticks.
44:29
With you, but anyhow, like, so I understand that.
44:32
I mean, I'm not going to be like, oh, I would never lick my
44:34
own fingers, I won't lie. But it is if I'm in my contained
44:39
in my own container. Yeah, and.
44:43
Like I. Won't lick, eat, lick, eat,
44:45
lick, eat because like, that's just going to get messy.
44:48
That's like the end. Oh.
44:51
Do you lick? Eat well.
44:52
Depends on the food. OK, Doritos.
44:56
Or Cheetos. Anything I think I lick in
45:00
between I got. Like a little snack bag.
45:02
I lick my fingers each time saving it.
45:04
No, because I I don't well, here's the difference between
45:07
you and me specific to that. I don't like there to be stuff
45:11
on my fingers. That's true.
45:12
That's true. So like.
45:14
Like eating BBQ. Or whatever I'm I'm cleaning my
45:16
fingers off in between bites while I'm eating the ribs.
45:19
You're oh. Yeah, ribs are also disgusting
45:23
to watch somebody else eat. Delicious though they're.
45:26
Delicious to eat, I love. Ribs.
45:28
It's delicious, man. And I have.
45:30
That issue of seeing people like I will literally sit there
45:34
eating chips, lick my own finger in my own area.
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Someone else will be doing it their own area and I'm like,
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that's disgusting. You know, like looking down at
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my just like you. How dare you.
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Gross. So if.
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I do that even when I'm doing it myself.
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Yeah, I guarantee you if you put your hand back into something
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that I'm touching. Yeah.
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Done. It's well I've seen you do.
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That so gross. Oh, you have.
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Oh. For sure.
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You're like, no, that's yours. Now, yeah, yes, here at home.
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I mean, Oh yeah. I and then for the.
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Listener if you've tried to. Do the math and you're like
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wait, what about popcorn? We literally in our house have
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separate popcorn bowls. What do you mean why?
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Why? What popcorn?
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Special because. OK, so growing up we just all
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shared the popcorn, right? But why is?
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OK. And I'm sure.
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That me and my brothers licked our buttery fingers No Yeah, I'm
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sure like put your hands back in here.
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Yep, for. Sure.
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See, there is a thing where like we have this.
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Luke doesn't share food. Luke doesn't share food because
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Luke wants to eat all of this food.
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I do. I want to eat it, Luke.
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Tells other people. Amber doesn't share food because
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he knows that I cannot stand the concept of someone else's mouth
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on my food. It's not that I'm like or a
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drink, right? It's not that.
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I'm sitting there like. Don't you dare share.
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Water with her, don't put your fork that's.
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Been in your mouth, out of my food.
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Don't do it. Yeah, she's.
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Out I'm. Out fully but anyhow again more
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evolved I. Guess, I guess, but.
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Like and I, I appreciate that you defend me to people who
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would not have that be an issue. You don't defend me, but it's a
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logical Amber I. Agree with the the sentiment of
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the whole thing like it makes sense, yeah, but I appreciate
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that you. Like for anything it's weird
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between. You and me specifically I guess,
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but you accept. It and it's, I mean, we kiss on
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the mouth. Stop telling.
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People that. I don't kiss and tell that's but
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we do not share food we. Don't share food no for.
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That reason. But but that's what's gross to
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me, and I want y'all to really just sit there before you vote
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and think about being in both situations.
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Yeah, sitting at a restaurant with friends and maybe one of
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those restaurants that's got those common chips, you know,
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what are those things called? Tortilla chips or like the the.
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The the bowl of peanuts or or. Popcorn or like these?
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Are common things I just want you to think about.
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The other person, not your significant other.
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Maybe a friend, maybe an acquaintance, maybe a Co worker,
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maybe your boss. Think about them licking their
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fingers and then going back in. I'm out.
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How does that make you feel? I'm not I'm done.
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I also want. You to go and think.
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About walking or being at the sink, washing your hands because
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you're a reasonable human being after going to the bathroom and
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seeing that person walk behind you and watch them touch that.
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Handle just the worst. Which is worse?
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Vote for it. On Spotify, Yeah, please do.
48:51
Also, like the podcast? Share the podcast, please.
48:57
And. Rate the podcast, yes.
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Tell people that we're awesome. Yeah, yeah.
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And. We wash our hands.
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We do and we don't. Lick our fingers in between.
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Communal food bites. We won't do it.
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I have switched. I use napkins.
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That's my deal. Yes, actually you.
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Have a napkin under you all the time.
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All the time. Yep.
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Yep, I'm. Defending you.
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Thank you. And your.
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Evolved. State.
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I appreciate it with the not. Winning argument.
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I just want to end on that. I I mean, I'm sure I feel like
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more people would find. Yours more disgusting but I
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don't know, especially if they took it to.
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The second one, right, Right. Right, OK.
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Yep, I'm disgusted. Here we go.
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See you next time. I want to do the whole thing.
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I just want to do my own thing. I just want to do my own thing.
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I just want to do my own thing.