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The Next Round: Joel Klatt Rips Auburn, LSU’s Lane Kiffin Drama & Week 1 Upset Picks | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: the games this weekend. Let's start with this soundbite from
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Speaker 1: our next round part of the show yesterday. Joel Klatt
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Speaker 1: is the main face voice of Fox Sports. College football coverage.
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Speaker 1: He's on the big noon kickoff every week. And he
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Speaker 1: had this to say yesterday about Auburn and Texas A &
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Speaker 1: M when it comes to their history.
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Speaker 3: Auburn reminds me a lot of Texas A & M.
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Speaker 3: And in that, like, there's not a ton of consistency,
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Speaker 3: but the expectations are always that they're going to be great.
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Speaker 3: You know, like A & M fans have an overinflated
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Speaker 3: view of just what they are. And I would say
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Speaker 3: the same for Auburn.
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Speaker 1: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: Like that is, it just, I know that's, you've got pops,
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Speaker 3: you know, you like pop up there and when it's great,
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Speaker 3: it's great.
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Speaker 1: It's great. It's fantastic.
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Speaker 3: It's a great program. I love, I love Auburn, but
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Speaker 3: they have not shown the consistency of other quality programs.
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Speaker 3: You know, they're, they're a popcorn program, just like A & M.
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Speaker 3: They're an average program that pops up every once in
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Speaker 3: a while.
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Speaker 1: Oh, so you had some thoughts on this coming off.
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Speaker 1: I know Auburn fans. I mean, do any of us disagree?
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Speaker 1: I didn't even notice it. Did you notice it? I
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Speaker 1: noticed it. I did notice it. I mean, you. Texas
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Speaker 1: A & M has never won a national championship in
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Speaker 1: modern day college football. Auburn won one in 2010. They
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Speaker 1: should have won one in 2013. They were a minute
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Speaker 1: and 37 seconds away from winning two since 2010. I
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Speaker 1: get that.
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Speaker 2: But where we are right now in college football, the
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Speaker 2: last decade, the last five years, it's not even close.
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Speaker 1: They're below average. But you can't. And A & M
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Speaker 1: is trending. But you can't. You can't. predict the future
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Speaker 1: off of the past. If you did that, then Indiana
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Speaker 1: would never be Indiana what they are now. Indiana may
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Speaker 1: turn into a dynasty. We're not talking about the future, Dunaway.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about right now. We are talking about the
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Speaker 1: future because we're talking about when Klatt says that. You
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Speaker 1: will give me they're an average program right now. No,
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Speaker 1: they've been below average. They're bad right now.
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Speaker 2: That's why I don't understand why there's so much.
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Speaker 1: This isn't complicated. Auburn fans know this.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's controversial because I think Auburn fans
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Speaker 4: took it as Klatt saying, you're just an all-time average program,
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Speaker 4: which I don't think is fair to Auburn. Auburn's better
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Speaker 4: than an all-time average program. To Dunaway's point, they're not
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Speaker 4: even average right now. They've been below average since Gus Malzahn.
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Speaker 4: They've been a bad program. Any Auburn fan alive will
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Speaker 4: tell you that because they've lived it.
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Speaker 1: But that's no indicator of the future.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm not even worried about the future because
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Speaker 4: Klatt was talking about the past. And, like, here's what
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Speaker 4: I would say. Auburn is 12th all-time.
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Speaker 1: And FBS wins. That's not an average program.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: it's a weird thing Auburn has done over the last
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Speaker 4: 20 years, and they've done that. I mean, that is 100% true.
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Speaker 1: But I do think we've got, I mean, Nebraska, where's
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Speaker 1: Nebraska all-time wins? Oh, my gosh. They are.
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Speaker 1: Eighth. Yeah. But that's an average program. It is right now.
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Speaker 2: It's just the way it is right now. Like we've
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Speaker 2: got to figure out what the snapshots are. I mean,
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Speaker 2: like Army, Army, like historically is a great program, right?
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Speaker 2: Princeton historically is a great program.
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Speaker 1: See, now you're talking about. the future now and, and
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Speaker 1: army will never be able to be what they were
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Speaker 1: at one point. I don't know what Nebraska will ever be.
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Speaker 1: When you say that Navy's going to be pretty good
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Speaker 1: this year. Navy's going to be, I don't know what
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Speaker 1: army is going to be in the future. They, they
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Speaker 1: haven't been as good as they used to be right there.
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Speaker 1: They're never going to be national champions again. Navy's they
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Speaker 1: may make the playoffs. We'll unveil our playoff picks coming
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Speaker 1: up in our number three of the show today. Navy's
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Speaker 1: got a chance to be in the playoffs this year,
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Speaker 1: but they're not going to win the national championship. Auburn is,
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Speaker 1: probably will win a national championship in the future at
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Speaker 1: some point. You say that. In my lifetime of watching football,
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Speaker 1: I've seen them win one.
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Speaker 2: I have seen 14 programs, I think maybe 15, win
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Speaker 2: multiple national championships since I've been watching football.
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Speaker 1: But you would have never put Indiana into one of
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Speaker 1: those categories. No, absolutely not. And right now at this
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Speaker 1: point of history, which when you do snapshots, whatever window
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Speaker 1: you were going to put it in, Indiana is as
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Speaker 1: good as it gets right now. No doubt. And a
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Speaker 1: two-year snapshot. And do you think it's going to get
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Speaker 1: any worse this year? It's got to get worse than
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Speaker 1: it was. They're going to lose again eventually. Should they
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Speaker 1: win double digits again? Yes. I think they're a double-digit
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Speaker 1: win team again this year.
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Speaker 2: But I think Klatt, when Klatt's not going back to
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Speaker 2: the 80s, 90s, 2000s, I mean, we're talking about current
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Speaker 2: college football.
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Speaker 1: I think a fair snapshot is five years.
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Speaker 4: And that's where I wish, and Klatt given, look, this
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Speaker 4: is just a free-flowing interview. He did not come on
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Speaker 4: thinking I'm going to talk about the history of Auburn football, right?
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Speaker 4: And again, I didn't even notice it. It's a free-flowing interview.
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Speaker 4: I wish Klatt had said over the last X amount
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Speaker 4: of years, Auburn is a popcorn program. I mean, he
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Speaker 4: probably wishes he had, too, now that he's seen the blowback,
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Speaker 4: which he even referenced it.
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Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know how I always get these
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Speaker 2: situations on your guys' show. I think you can use
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Speaker 2: common sense and figure this out. It's like Florida State's
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Speaker 2: an average program. Nebraska's an average program.
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Speaker 1: Or below average right now. They are now, yeah. Here's
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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter.
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Speaker 2: Auburn's played 25 ranked teams over the last five years.
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Speaker 2: You know what the record is in those 25 ranked teams? Right.
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Speaker 1: Two and 23. They've been really pathetic. They're not even
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Speaker 1: an average program. They've been below average in the last
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Speaker 1: five or six years. That's 100%. When I hear somebody
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Speaker 1: say something like that, it came off to me like
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Speaker 1: he was saying, they are an average program and that's
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Speaker 1: all they're ever going to be. It came off to
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Speaker 1: me as where they are right now.
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Speaker 4: Isn't that funny how we can hear the same thing
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Speaker 4: and you all hear two totally different things, but that's.
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Speaker 1: I mean, because I can take, I don't know, how
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Speaker 1: many programs we have now?
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Speaker 4: 136.
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Speaker 1: Let's just go power four.
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Speaker 2: 75 of the power four i can paint good good
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Speaker 2: decades for them yeah you can paint positive decades or
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Speaker 2: you can dial in exactly what you think they'll be
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Speaker 2: over a decade no no no i can paint positive
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Speaker 2: decades yeah yeah that's what we're talking about yeah yeah
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Speaker 2: yeah like auburn was as good as anybody in the
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Speaker 2: 80s that is right yeah but they probably the.
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Speaker 1: Best team to not win a national championship.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to be the best of a
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Speaker 2: decade without winning a national championship.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you mean in the 80s? Yeah, absolutely. I would
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Speaker 1: agree with you on that. Well, technically, they got screwed
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Speaker 1: out of one in 83, which I think they claimed. Historically,
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Speaker 1: they did win a championship.
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Speaker 4: Now, you know, Texas, where I would separate Auburn and
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Speaker 4: Texas A & M is A & M has won nothing.
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Speaker 4: They've won nothing. That's why it's almost even hard to
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Speaker 4: put them in the same category. I wouldn't even call
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Speaker 4: A & M a popcorn program. That was Klatt's phrase,
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Speaker 4: like they just pop up out of nowhere.
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Speaker 1: A & M is, what is the opposite of popcorn?
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Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Elko owns it. Hey, look at our
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Speaker 1: trophy case.
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Speaker 4: A & M is that flat microwave thing that's folded
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Speaker 4: in threes.
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Speaker 1: That you put into the microwave. That hasn't popped yet.
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Speaker 1: But I think Auburn fans would flip where they are
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Speaker 1: right now, where A & M is. 100%. I mean,
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Speaker 1: A & M is going in a really good direction.
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Speaker 2: And look, that could be Alex Golish. He could win
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Speaker 2: nine games this year, 11 next year, get to a
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Speaker 2: college football playoff, and same trajectory.
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Speaker 4: Here's the crazy thing. I told you Auburn's 12th all-time
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Speaker 4: in FBS wins. Would you like to guess who's 13th?
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Speaker 1: Texas A & M. Texas A & M. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean... A & M' s got all the wins Auburn
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Speaker 4: has with none of the trophies Auburn has. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that's just the truth about.
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Speaker 1: A & M. A & M.
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Speaker 4: Is the most underachieving program in college football history. There
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Speaker 4: is no argument about that. You can't even argue it.
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Speaker 1: They're the most accomplished underachieving program of all time.
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Speaker 4: Yes, you can't argue that one. I mean, if you
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Speaker 4: drive to College Station and look at their trophy case...
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Speaker 4: You would think they've got the same amount of wins
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Speaker 4: as Vanderbilt, and they don't. They've got the 13th most
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Speaker 4: wins of all time, but they've got no trophies to
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Speaker 4: show for it.
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Speaker 2: What shows me a successful season in today's college football
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Speaker 2: is double-digit wins. I think it's somewhat difficult to get
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Speaker 2: to double-digit. wins, but it's not the most difficult thing
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, 10-2.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Auburn in their history has 14 double-digit wins.
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Speaker 1: Over the last 18 years, you know how many Alabama's got? Oh,
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Speaker 1: all of them. We're coming off the great– anytime you
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Speaker 1: do this. It's the greatest road ever. It's not fair
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Speaker 1: because you could do this with Alabama and anybody in
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Speaker 1: the country because Alabama was a dynasty. Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you want to go somebody else, I mean, I
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Speaker 1: can go Boise State. Yeah. Different level of football. You
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Speaker 1: want to go rank wins? Boise State's got more over
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Speaker 1: the top over the last five years. Ohio State is
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Speaker 1: a dynasty. Not going to compare with Auburn. Yeah. It's
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Speaker 1: been dynastic. Do you have A & Ms? No, I don't.
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Speaker 1: But I would just say this.
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Speaker 2: So, like, two ranked wins over the last five years.
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Speaker 1: This is why I don't understand why Auburn fans would
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Speaker 1: get upset with this.
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Speaker 2: There were six teams in the SEC that doubled that
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Speaker 2: last year, including Vanderbilt. There were seven teams that had
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Speaker 2: three or more top 25 wins last year.
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Speaker 1: You keep saying I don't understand why Auburn fans would
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Speaker 1: be upset about this. And I'm telling you, I believe
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Speaker 1: it is because of the perception when you hear that
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Speaker 1: some people i think took it as that's all we're
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Speaker 1: ever going to be that's all we're ever going to
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Speaker 1: be you think we're average and that's all we're ever going.
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Speaker 4: To be see i think i disagree i think they're
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Speaker 4: upset because they heard him say you've never really accomplished
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Speaker 4: anything you're just an average historic program yes and i
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Speaker 4: don't you heard him say yeah we heard him say
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Speaker 4: three different things we've got three people sitting.
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Speaker 2: Here i just as we roll into another season i
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Speaker 2: think we're in the moment i think klatt's in the
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Speaker 2: moment Klatt is wise enough to know that Auburn has
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Speaker 2: three Heisman Trophy winners.
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Speaker 1: They've won a national championship.
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Speaker 2: I think he was talking about where we are in
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Speaker 2: the moment. And look, I'm the biggest Rams fan in
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Speaker 2: the world. I really don't know a bigger Rams fan.
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Speaker 2: It's an average NFL franchise.
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Speaker 1: Throughout the years. There was a 12-year period they didn't
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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. But they're great right now. And
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Speaker 1: I own it.
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Speaker 2: We're terrible, but I still watch all the games. But
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Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. I mean, it bothers me we're terrible,
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Speaker 2: but other people will say it.
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Speaker 1: It's factual. Yeah, I think there was....
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Speaker 4: I think there was an overall misinterpretation. Klatt had one interpretation.
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Speaker 4: He said it. And probably in his mind, it made
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Speaker 4: sense with his interpretation. I think Auburn fans, you think
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Speaker 4: they're upset because he was pigeonholing them saying there's no
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Speaker 4: house in Tuscany. Auburn just quit trying. You're never going
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Speaker 4: to be anything but average. I thought, kind of like Lance,
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Speaker 4: he's just talking about them kind of in the real time,
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Speaker 4: which he's probably being kind if he calls them average
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Speaker 4: in real time. And I think Auburn fans took it
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Speaker 4: as you've never accomplished anything. You're just an average program
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Speaker 4: and you've never accomplished anything. So it's kind of where
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Speaker 4: we are in this world is that everybody's going to
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Speaker 4: hear it the way either they want to hear it
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Speaker 4: or the way they're most offended by it. That's kind
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Speaker 4: of where we are in the world when people say things.
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Speaker 4: You either hear it the way you want to hear
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Speaker 4: it or you hear it the way you're most offended
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Speaker 4: by it. And some people heard it the way they
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Speaker 4: wanted to hear it and some people heard it the
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Speaker 4: way they were most offended by it.
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Speaker 1: Justin Hokanson, Auburn fan. live on three sports too many
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Speaker 1: championships undefeated seasons heisman and all americans to pretend that
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Speaker 1: they're an average.
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Speaker 4: See hoax looking at it as he's calling them historically
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Speaker 4: average now chris says lt's point is correct i love
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Speaker 4: auburn but he's right especially over the last five years
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Speaker 4: And then he throws in your team by the same
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Speaker 4: metric USC has averaged, too.
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Speaker 1: 100%. No doubt.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think USC is, you guys know how
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Speaker 2: I feel right now. And they've got an 11-win season,
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Speaker 2: a Heisman Trophy winner over there. They've played for a
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Speaker 2: conference championship in the last five years. And it's been terrible. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I think this is all in the eye of
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Speaker 4: the beholder, however you interpret what Klatt said.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think you can argue at all. The
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Speaker 2: last five years, it has been one of the worst
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Speaker 2: Power 4 programs ever. I mean, they've only got the
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Speaker 2: only conference or the only team in conference they've got
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Speaker 2: more wins than in the last five years.
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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt, Texas, and Oklahoma. Texas, Oklahoma, because they came in later.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can argue that. It's numbers.
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Speaker 4: You can't argue against actual facts, and those are actual facts.
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Speaker 4: That's not even subjective, objective. All I've got to do
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Speaker 4: is look at records.
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Speaker 1: LSU got some headlines yesterday when they continued to practice
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Speaker 1: A couple of NFL players, Daquan Wright and company, actually
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Speaker 1: practicing with the team. They don't have to have their
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Speaker 1: official 105 until Friday. What did you guys make of
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Speaker 1: the SEC executives, not from the office, but member schools,
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Speaker 1: saying that sanctions, probation... even throughout the word expulsion at
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Speaker 1: some point, would be on the table if they continue
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Speaker 1: to go down this road. Nobody thinks they're going to
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Speaker 1: continue to go down this road, by the way. They
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Speaker 1: believe LSU will fall in before the game Saturday and
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Speaker 1: not play these players. I don't know what's real and
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Speaker 1: what's not.
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Speaker 2: Is that legit, the villain thing in the locker room?
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and show it, since Lance brought it up here.
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Speaker 1: I think it was Mike Scarborough was in the football building.
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Speaker 1: If you want to win at the highest level, You
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Speaker 1: have to become a villain in somebody else's story. That's
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Speaker 1: from Mike Scarborough on his X page. Again, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what Lane's doing. You go back.
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Speaker 2: It seemed like at this time last year he was
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Speaker 2: trying to do a little damage control and remake the
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Speaker 2: image a little bit when he was talking about sobriety
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Speaker 2: and all that. And then once everything went down, the
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Speaker 2: transition from Ole Miss to LSU, he embraced it.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I am the villain. We're going to roll
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Speaker 1: with this.
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Speaker 2: But him coming out and saying, you know, the leadership
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Speaker 2: council voted on this, whatever will make us better.
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Speaker 1: I doubt it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you really think guys in there are saying
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Speaker 2: we can't do this ourselves. Let's go out and get
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Speaker 2: guys that haven't been in this locker room. Three pieces
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Speaker 2: from NFL teams that were waived that are going to
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Speaker 2: make us that much better. I just don't believe any
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Speaker 2: of this. And I don't know why Lane is dying
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Speaker 2: on this hill.
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Speaker 1: That was what I call a convenient conversation. Do you ever.
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Speaker 4: You ever talk to somebody about something and they had
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Speaker 4: a way too convenient conversation with somebody you were talking about? Like,
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Speaker 4: it's hard to give an example on this, but you're
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Speaker 4: talking about something like, oh, I just met a guy
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Speaker 4: on the street the other day that said, you know,
16:01
Speaker 4: such and such. Well, that's an awful convenient conversation, isn't it?
16:05
Speaker 4: That was a convenient conversation Lane had that everybody supported him,
16:08
Speaker 4: it seemed like. It was like, if it's going to
16:10
Speaker 4: make us better, let's just bring him in.
16:12
Speaker 1: College Game Day podcast is really good. It's got Wetzel
16:15
Speaker 1: on it. it's got Thamel on it and Reese Davis
16:19
Speaker 1: on it. Those are the usual three guys. And they
16:22
Speaker 1: had the lawyer, Tom Mars, who has more wins against
16:25
Speaker 1: the NCAA in the courtroom than anybody on earth. And
16:29
Speaker 1: he said, this is how the LSU versus the SEC
16:33
Speaker 1: battle will play out.
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Speaker 6: SEC is going to win this case. I don't think
16:38
Speaker 6: there's any question about it. To judge in the Baton
16:42
Speaker 6: Rouge case, is going to be under immense political pressure
16:48
Speaker 6: to rule in favor of the plaintiffs. There's no doubt
16:50
Speaker 6: about that. But that's not necessarily going to be true
16:54
Speaker 6: at the next level, the Louisiana Court of Appeals.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 6: Because they're elected to 10-year terms, whereas district judges are
17:06
Speaker 6: elected to six-year terms.
17:08
Speaker 4: And....
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Speaker 6: Appellate judges, whether they're in Louisiana or Montana or Arkansas,
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Speaker 6: they are different than district judges. They are obsessed about
17:22
Speaker 6: the law, following the law. And they know that in
17:26
Speaker 6: this case, the people of Louisiana expect them to apply
17:30
Speaker 6: the evidence and the law. And there's one other thing
17:34
Speaker 6: that's unique about Louisiana courts. The Court of Appeals in
17:39
Speaker 6: Louisiana can review the facts, the evidence, the facts in
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Speaker 6: the record and the law, whereas in almost every other state,
17:49
Speaker 6: the Court of Appeals has to give great deference to
17:52
Speaker 6: the trial judge's findings of fact. Not so in Louisiana.
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Speaker 1: So that's on the College Game Day podcast. You can
17:59
Speaker 1: see that whole thing right now on their platform. So
18:03
Speaker 1: they're just saying by Thursday, this is going to be
18:05
Speaker 1: a story that has hit a dead end, that Tom
18:08
Speaker 1: Mars believes the SEC will win this walking away. And
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Speaker 1: that becomes the question. And we've got a great guest,
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Speaker 1: Matt Moscona, coming up in our second hour today to
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Speaker 1: talk about this from LSU's perspective. Is the juice worth
18:21
Speaker 1: the squeeze? Why are we still doing this on game
18:24
Speaker 1: week if you're Lane Kiffin?
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Speaker 2: There hasn't been word whether or not these three individuals
18:32
Speaker 2: will play this weekend.
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Speaker 1: And I've got fingers crossed, please play them. Please play
18:36
Speaker 1: them and let Clemson win this game.
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Speaker 2: I mean, can you guys imagine that scenario?
18:41
Speaker 1: You've already got a bullseye on your back. Yeah, I
18:43
Speaker 1: think if you're LSU fans, you're concerned. Has this been
18:46
Speaker 1: a distraction or some kind of a... a breaking point,
18:50
Speaker 1: fracture point, maybe not a breaking point, but something that
18:52
Speaker 1: cracks the chemistry of the team that could break some point,
18:56
Speaker 1: whether it be before the game, in the game, or
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Speaker 1: after the game that could damage this team for the
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Speaker 1: entire season. And I'll tell you who loves this is Dabo.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about Clemson at all. Oh, I know. They
19:05
Speaker 1: are so in the weeds.
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Speaker 2: The only way you talk about Clemson is the way
19:09
Speaker 2: I just brought it up where people are like, man,
19:11
Speaker 2: I hope Clemson can pull off this upset.
19:12
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to.
19:14
Speaker 2: Believe that Clemson could win this game And just imagine this.
19:18
Speaker 2: You just fired Brian Kelly. And, again, I know I'm
19:20
Speaker 2: kind of on the side by myself on this. I
19:24
Speaker 2: still think Brian Kelly's a really, really good coach. I
19:26
Speaker 2: know it just ended up not being a great fit.
19:29
Speaker 2: But you know what Brian Kelly never did? Lose to
19:31
Speaker 2: an unranked opponent at home. They have won 27 straight.
19:34
Speaker 2: Their last loss to an unranked opponent was 20-20 against
19:37
Speaker 2: Mississippi State.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine game one he loses to an unranked?
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Speaker 2: Right.
19:42
Speaker 1: Hard to imagine Clemson's unranked, but that's the facts. That
19:45
Speaker 1: does not feel like a normal unranked team. It's not
19:47
Speaker 1: a normal unranked team coming in there, but that's the facts.
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Speaker 1: This is an interesting game. I can't wait to watch
19:53
Speaker 1: it Saturday night. We'll see if it pops up in
19:56
Speaker 1: our upset alert. We'll do that. If you're new to
19:58
Speaker 1: the show, we play it just like College Game Day
20:01
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20:04
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20:06
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20:15
Speaker 1: next round, guys, LTD & B. One note from the NFL,
20:19
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20:23
Speaker 1: back at practice. They're saying he's going to be good
20:25
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20:29
Speaker 1: I'm always amazed that we're through the cut day on Sunday,
20:33
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20:36
Speaker 1: the start of the NFL season.
20:37
Speaker 2: I know.
20:38
Speaker 1: A little gap there between the end of the exhibition
20:40
Speaker 1: season to this. Well, back in the day, though, this
20:42
Speaker 1: coming Thursday was your last exhibition week. Back in the day.
20:47
Speaker 1: It's been a while. I don't know. We start Wednesday,
20:49
Speaker 1: so it's a week from tomorrow with the season. It
20:53
Speaker 1: just seems longer for some reason.
20:54
Speaker 4: I just know that the Thursday night, the first Thursday
20:57
Speaker 4: night of football used to be the last Thursday night
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Speaker 4: of NFL preseason. They'd be going on head-to-head, which I
21:02
Speaker 4: didn't care. I was going to watch college football over
21:03
Speaker 4: NFL preseason. I'm just saying it used to be closer,
21:06
Speaker 4: but I'm with you now. It seems like an eternity
21:08
Speaker 4: from the last preseason game until they actually play. Imagine
21:11
Speaker 4: if you're one of the teams playing Monday night football,
21:12
Speaker 4: Denver and Kansas City. How long it is from that
21:16
Speaker 4: last Thursday preseason game until you play a Monday night
21:18
Speaker 4: football game.
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Speaker 1: That's right. You're a week from Labor Day still coming up.
21:22
Speaker 1: That's right. You're still a week away from Labor Day.
21:24
Speaker 2: But that is good news for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.
21:28
Speaker 2: You know, big bounce back, hopefully for Lamar, if you're
21:31
Speaker 2: a Ravens fan out there. Because when you start to
21:33
Speaker 2: look at weapons, Jacoby Lane is going to be counted on, like, immediately.
21:37
Speaker 2: Rookie right receiver out of USC. You've got Rashad Bateman there. But,
21:40
Speaker 2: I mean, your alpha is a Flowers.
21:42
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, you still expect the same numbers? He's sort
21:46
Speaker 1: of chasing time now.
21:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, if we're just putting it in
21:48
Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, I think he's like the sixth running back
21:51
Speaker 2: right now. So, I mean, I think there's an expectation
21:53
Speaker 2: he still hits 1,000 yards. But sooner or later, father
21:57
Speaker 2: time is going.
21:57
Speaker 1: To catch up. Hard to say this, but... If I
21:59
Speaker 1: was making a bold pick in the NFL, I'd say
22:02
Speaker 1: not the playoffs for the Ravens this year. That is
22:04
Speaker 1: a bold choice. That's very bold.
22:05
Speaker 2: They are, along with Buffalo, the shortest favorites to actually
22:11
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl out of the AFC.
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Speaker 1: Are you serious?
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Speaker 1: You did not know that when you said bold. No,
22:16
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22:18
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22:21
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Speaker 1: All right. So it's upset alert time. We do it
24:04
Speaker 1: every Tuesday and we'll be doing it every Tuesday in
24:07
Speaker 1: this segment. So if you enjoy it or want to
24:09
Speaker 1: make your own picks, jump into our chat room and
24:11
Speaker 1: let us know. We'd love to see your upset alert picks.
24:13
Speaker 1: I think I was the winner last year. Is that correct, Forrester?
24:16
Speaker 1: I won it last year. Is that right? You think? No,
24:18
Speaker 1: it wasn't me. Who was it? Was it me?
24:21
Speaker 5: I thought it was Brown.
24:22
Speaker 1: Oh, the Brown Bandit won this thing last year? I
24:24
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it might be me. I have
24:27
Speaker 1: no idea. I think I had a good year. I
24:30
Speaker 1: think the Brown Bandit probably walked with it.
24:31
Speaker 5: It was Brown.
24:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brown Bandit.
24:33
Speaker 5: I thought it actually got the final standings.
24:35
Speaker 1: I was joking. I thought it was actually Forrester. It's
24:37
Speaker 1: a blowout. Brown won it. Forrester, me, LT, and Brooks.
24:43
Speaker 1: All five back this year. Nobody got relegated, so that's good.
24:46
Speaker 1: Everybody's back with their upset alert picks. What are those
24:48
Speaker 1: numbers in the parentheses? That's when you got the win outright.
24:52
Speaker 2: Wow.
24:52
Speaker 1: You get the win outright and the points. Five? Five.
24:56
Speaker 1: That's a big number. Yeah. Out of how many? Fourteen?
24:59
Speaker 2: 5 out of 14 dogs, depending on how big the
25:03
Speaker 2: dog is.
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Speaker 1: Is it three and a half or more? Let's see
25:06
Speaker 1: the rules. I'm glad you asked. Forrester may have the
25:09
Speaker 1: rules for us here. It's just like college game day
25:12
Speaker 1: where you got to make a pick of, is it
25:15
Speaker 1: four and a half points, Forrester?
25:17
Speaker 5: Well, first, we got to do the intro then.
25:22
Speaker 4: Oh.
25:23
Speaker 2: I love the old siren and the old terrestrial radio
25:25
Speaker 2: days where people thought they were getting pulled over left
25:27
Speaker 2: and right.
25:27
Speaker 1: All right.
25:30
Speaker 5: It is four and a half.
25:31
Speaker 1: Four and a half. Five points for the cover. So
25:34
Speaker 1: all you have to do is get inside the number
25:37
Speaker 1: that you go. The minimum spread is four and a half.
25:39
Speaker 1: So four and a half points or more. You get inside.
25:42
Speaker 1: If you cover, if you get the cover, you get
25:44
Speaker 1: five points. If you get the outright win with your underdog,
25:47
Speaker 1: you get five points plus.
25:50
Speaker 1: The amount of the spread. So we'll use 10 as
25:53
Speaker 1: an example. If you played an underdog that was plus
25:56
Speaker 1: 10 and they won the game outright, you would walk
25:58
Speaker 1: away with 15 total points.
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Speaker 5: And we don't do this push junk.
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Speaker 1: No. No pushes.
26:03
Speaker 5: That other platforms do.
26:05
Speaker 1: That's right. No pushes. The faces, the angry faces are
26:08
Speaker 1: there because Forrester built that graphic because we used to
26:11
Speaker 1: change the rules every year. That's correct. And I said
26:14
Speaker 1: on the air, these are the rules we'll go by.
26:15
Speaker 1: And then during the course of the next 67 seconds...
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Speaker 1: We changed the rules to wipe out that last part.
26:22
Speaker 1: So the top three is what we do, just like
26:24
Speaker 1: on college game day. And we're ready to do it.
26:28
Speaker 1: So let's start with the worst person last year. Brooks,
26:33
Speaker 1: who handles our social media and everything. Microphone's on now, Brooks.
26:37
Speaker 1: Talk us through it, man. I'm hoping for a better season.
26:40
Speaker 7: I might add my first upset alert was a day
26:44
Speaker 7: that was my very first day at work, and I
26:45
Speaker 7: didn't even know I was.
26:46
Speaker 1: Going to be on air that day. Hey, draw Victor Brooks.
26:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jim threw me on air, told me to be
26:50
Speaker 7: at work at an earlier time than I was supposed
26:52
Speaker 7: to be.
26:52
Speaker 1: Trying to be a welcome, man. He was trying to
26:54
Speaker 1: give you a welcome. That's why Jim did your introduction
26:55
Speaker 1: like three or four times. Yeah. yeah trying to be
26:58
Speaker 1: your welcome man uh i uh if you'll recall to
27:02
Speaker 1: last friday and one of my three guarantees for this
27:05
Speaker 1: season was that uh the lsu tigers lose four or
27:09
Speaker 1: more games and uh you understand this is upset alert
27:12
Speaker 1: not bold predictions right i understand.
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Speaker 7: This ties into it uh i am taking the clemson
27:17
Speaker 7: tigers plus nine and a half road dog in baton
27:21
Speaker 7: rouge uh And I would love, I actually like this
27:25
Speaker 7: game outright. I like the Clemson Tigers upsetting LSU, and
27:28
Speaker 7: it's one of their four losses. Too much crap going
27:30
Speaker 7: on this week in Baton Rouge. Too much noise surrounding
27:32
Speaker 7: that program. I think they come out completely unfocused.
27:36
Speaker 1: I hope you don't have board in, but your board's
27:38
Speaker 1: a little small back there.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, apparently with the new budget, we didn't
27:43
Speaker 7: buy enough for the back room.
27:44
Speaker 1: We only did three boards. Yeah, the back room can't
27:46
Speaker 1: get nice things. We can order.
27:47
Speaker 4: Brooks another one. Scott doesn't need it. He does high tech.
27:50
Speaker 1: Looks like you were using an older orange marker, too.
27:53
Speaker 1: It's already running out of gas. Let's just pick this
27:55
Speaker 1: thing apart.
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Speaker 7: With everything I have going on back here, I didn't
27:58
Speaker 7: draw mine until the pick or draw mine.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough.
28:02
Speaker 2: I almost think we should be penalized to point if
28:04
Speaker 2: you put a dead marker back. I pulled four dead
28:07
Speaker 2: markers from over there yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Those are all new.
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Speaker 7: How are we going to leave an empty carton of
28:14
Speaker 7: milk in the refrigerator?
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Speaker 1: So Brooks goes with Clemson. I mean, Bo just told
28:19
Speaker 1: me he's getting me a whiteboard. Is that even a
28:22
Speaker 1: is that even a tiger paw? It looks like it's
28:24
Speaker 1: four paws that bear paw. Brooks, I hope you're right.
28:28
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to stick this paw up your butt. Whoa!
28:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, way too much hype going
28:33
Speaker 1: on with LSU. Our buddy C.
28:34
Speaker 2: Stu that doesn't like to get off the couch is
28:36
Speaker 2: talking about going to Baton Rouge this weekend.
28:37
Speaker 5: Oh, no.
28:37
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
28:38
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it shows you these LSU fans.
28:39
Speaker 1: This is the one you're going to? Yeah. Let me
28:42
Speaker 1: prop it up here so everyone can see how awful
28:44
Speaker 1: it looks. The guy that hates crowds is going to
28:46
Speaker 1: go to Baton Rouge? What a weekend to choose that.
28:48
Speaker 1: We can't get him to karaoke anymore and he can
28:50
Speaker 1: go to Baton Rouge? Yeah. I mean, these LSU fans.
28:53
Speaker 1: All right. Lance was next in the standings last year.
28:56
Speaker 1: Killed it on the pick three. Better on Friday than
28:58
Speaker 1: he was on Tuesday. He gets them dialed in on Friday.
29:02
Speaker 1: I go for the cover. You know, the outright wins
29:04
Speaker 1: are tough. I think I might have one here. Forrester
29:06
Speaker 1: doesn't like this. Oh, well-drawn. Wow.
29:12
Speaker 6: The red wolf.
29:13
Speaker 1: That's a good pink wolf. Wow. A good pink wolf.
29:16
Speaker 1: That is well-drawn.
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Speaker 4: Lance, that is fantastic.
29:20
Speaker 1: Maddie's getting really good at drawing. I was going to
29:22
Speaker 1: tell you guys that. Now, the guys in the back
29:24
Speaker 1: saw the outline.
29:26
Speaker 2: Like, I was up here working on the outline and
29:28
Speaker 2: just had to get the tightness of the details. So,
29:31
Speaker 2: Maddie did help tighten it up a little bit. With
29:35
Speaker 2: all that said, Arkansas State. 6-1 when they held opponents
29:40
Speaker 2: to fewer than 185 rushing yards. I think they're going
29:42
Speaker 2: to try to yuck this up. They won 6-8 for
29:44
Speaker 2: Butch Jones down the stretch. They're two losses, one possession losses.
29:48
Speaker 2: You're catching 10.5. Charles Huff has already crawled his crowd
29:51
Speaker 2: out after the UNLV game. 9-1.
29:53
Speaker 1: We're Memphis, baby. I've been here my whole life or
29:56
Speaker 1: eight months. One of the two. Our emotional win out
29:58
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Guess who they got next week? Boise State.
30:01
Speaker 1: This is a trap game. Back on the West Coast.
30:04
Speaker 2: So everybody's focused on, hey, man, imagine if Memphis can
30:06
Speaker 2: win this Boise game. They're going to be 3-0 to
30:08
Speaker 2: open the season.
30:09
Speaker 1: Not so fast.
30:10
Speaker 2: Watch out for the Red Wolves here. I like Arkansas
30:13
Speaker 2: State plus the 10.5. Getting a big, big number here.
30:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big number, 10.5, yeah. Yeah, we're going
30:20
Speaker 1: to have to– Just kidding, the glare there. The glare
30:24
Speaker 1: had it in Kansas State. It was wrapping off the
30:27
Speaker 1: A and the R. So there we go. That's a
30:29
Speaker 1: good-looking Red Bull. That's a good-looking Red Bull. Well done, Lance.
30:31
Speaker 1: I think I was next. How many times does a
30:36
Speaker 1: G6 beat a Power 5 team or a Power 4
30:40
Speaker 1: team in back-to-back years, especially when you're a little brother
30:45
Speaker 1: inside the state, right? Yeah. doesn't happen how often.
30:48
Speaker 2: Does that happen i know where you're going here and
30:50
Speaker 2: i think we might have a dick kicking on our hands.
30:54
Speaker 1: There's another hurricane warning out another hurricane warning in the
30:58
Speaker 1: state of oklahoma everybody's on this little north texas uh
31:04
Speaker 1: team that comes to town north texas junior yeah so
31:09
Speaker 1: i'm gonna go with tulsa to do it in back-to-back
31:11
Speaker 1: years listen At the end of the year last year,
31:13
Speaker 1: Tulsa beat Army, Oregon State, before they lost to a
31:16
Speaker 1: surging UAB team 31-24. They won the game last year.
31:22
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the great Auburn running back Demario Alston?
31:26
Speaker 1: I do, yeah. He's still there? He's now at Tulsa. Wow,
31:29
Speaker 1: how about that? Yeah, his fifth year is at Tulsa,
31:33
Speaker 1: so he's bringing that. He had some good games at Auburn.
31:36
Speaker 1: They just didn't have enough carries for him. Hugh Freeze
31:38
Speaker 1: didn't know how to use him. Insert Jackson Arnold. They
31:42
Speaker 1: didn't know how to use him. DeMario Alston is going
31:44
Speaker 1: to have a great night running the football. All the
31:47
Speaker 1: talk about Oklahoma State's new look offense that came from
31:49
Speaker 1: North Texas in the same league with Tulsa. Now, all
31:53
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here comes Tulsa exposing the Cowboys defense.
31:58
Speaker 1: Give me Tulsa. Plus the 13 and a half. Plus
32:01
Speaker 1: 13 and a half.
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Speaker 2: There's only one guy that plays more golf than Trey Lamb,
32:04
Speaker 2: and that is this.
32:05
Speaker 1: Guy right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:07
Speaker 2: I would just go back to the last time Eric
32:09
Speaker 2: Morris matched up with Trey Lamb.
32:11
Speaker 1: When was that? Two years ago. Two years ago? How'd
32:13
Speaker 1: that go? Where was that, North Texas? Yeah. In Tulsa? 52-20,
32:16
Speaker 1: North Texas. Oh, so it was a payback game. No, well,
32:19
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you look at it like that.
32:21
Speaker 1: It's a payback game. Or business as usual for Air Force.
32:25
Speaker 1: The numbers, it's a scary number at 13 and a half.
32:27
Speaker 1: That's right. If it was 14, I wouldn't play it.
32:29
Speaker 1: 13 and a half, it gets into my model. Okay.
32:32
Speaker 1: And my model says, play Tulsa. Play the home dog
32:35
Speaker 1: when it's 13 and a half.
32:36
Speaker 4: Hey, Blake has a question for Lance's play before we
32:38
Speaker 4: get too far away from it. He wants to know
32:39
Speaker 4: if Butch Jones' dad is still sitting on the scoreboard
32:41
Speaker 4: for this game.
32:42
Speaker 1: So... But that's a road game. Did Butch Jones' dad travel? Yeah,
32:45
Speaker 1: he travels. Okay, okay. So he'll be on the scoreboard?
32:48
Speaker 2: For in Tiger Stadium, he might be on the scoreboard.
32:50
Speaker 2: Arkansas State, Jonesboro, he's on sidelines.
32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, gotcha. Yep. That gets us to Forrester, who
32:55
Speaker 1: only does his AI. He refuses to... They're fantastic. be
32:59
Speaker 1: a peon and draw, get marker... dust all over his
33:02
Speaker 1: hands and shirt.
33:04
Speaker 5: I promise I put more time into this than anybody
33:07
Speaker 5: up there.
33:09
Speaker 6: I promise.
33:09
Speaker 5: I don't know.
33:10
Speaker 1: Lance took his home yesterday. Lance took his home, Scott. Yeah,
33:12
Speaker 1: but Lance didn't put the time in it. Matty did. Oh, okay. Well,
33:16
Speaker 1: you don't know if Debbie's writing programs at the Forrester household.
33:19
Speaker 3: That's right.
33:20
Speaker 1: That's true.
33:20
Speaker 5: I can assure you that's not happening either. Debbie wants
33:23
Speaker 5: nothing to do with any of this.
33:27
Speaker 1: All right. Give us your pick, Forrester.
33:29
Speaker 2: All right.
33:30
Speaker 5: Um.
33:31
Speaker 5: So everybody's in love with Will Stein, right?
33:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
33:35
Speaker 5: He, in Kentucky, is the next Indiana.
33:38
Speaker 1: Correct? Correct. Correct. That's what they're saying. All right. Well,
33:42
Speaker 1: we're going to Crother Field. Oh, no.
33:45
Speaker 5: Where a famous internet gif is going to be reenacted.
33:50
Speaker 5: The penguin is going to shove the wildcat into the turf.
33:57
Speaker 1: Oh, man. That is a terrible loss, Scott.
34:00
Speaker 5: And Youngstown State's getting 23 and a half.
34:03
Speaker 1: That's a lot of points. I see the fire Mark Pope.
34:06
Speaker 1: I think Mark Pope would love this. Take a little
34:08
Speaker 1: pressure off of him immediately. We'll buy out there. Yeah.
34:12
Speaker 1: I love AI. And the signs in the stand is
34:13
Speaker 1: fire Mark Pope. Punch him in the face, throw him down.
34:18
Speaker 5: Go Penguins.
34:18
Speaker 1: Such an angry penguin. And look, there's a shot coming
34:22
Speaker 1: up here that'll show you the, right there. There's USC's
34:25
Speaker 1: crowd showed up. The half-empty student section.
34:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:28
Speaker 1: Fire Mark Pope. All right, so Youngstown State is the
34:30
Speaker 1: play from Forrester there, plus 23 and a half.
34:33
Speaker 5: He's trying to— Might be a play for a cover there, but,
34:34
Speaker 5: you know.
34:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I like it. I like it. That gets
34:38
Speaker 1: us to the— oh, wait. Where'd Brown go? He left, you idiots. Okay,
34:43
Speaker 1: give us the introduction to the new character. Who is this?
34:45
Speaker 1: This is the Brown Bandit, for those of you on
34:47
Speaker 1: Sport and State. Clay Travis? I'll never listen to you
34:52
Speaker 1: guys again. Oh, wait a minute. Somebody else says that. Hey,
34:55
Speaker 1: welcome in.
34:56
Speaker 4: Sport and state. My name is the Brown Bandit. I
34:58
Speaker 4: don't know if these idiots showed you the standings last year.
35:00
Speaker 1: Did you? Yes, we did. Who won? Of the eligible people,
35:04
Speaker 1: I think Forrester won. Yeah, but the Brown Bandit, I
35:07
Speaker 1: am a professional. Hey, I did. I've got a question here.
35:10
Speaker 2: Why does the Brown Bandit not help Brian Brown out
35:13
Speaker 2: with his pick 30?
35:14
Speaker 1: Brown's an idiot. He will not listen.
35:16
Speaker 4: But I don't know if he's brought it up on
35:18
Speaker 4: the show, but Brown called me sometime this summer. He's like,
35:22
Speaker 4: you coming back this year? I was like, am I
35:24
Speaker 4: coming back? This is the only way these idiots get
35:26
Speaker 4: games right is if I'm here. Of course I'm coming back,
35:29
Speaker 4: and I'll go ahead and tell you who I'm picking
35:30
Speaker 4: week one. He better not have mentioned it.
35:32
Speaker 1: On the show. He has not. He hasn't? Good. He
35:35
Speaker 1: has not, no. Good. Because I've got an outright winner
35:40
Speaker 1: week one.
35:41
Speaker 4: That is catching 10 and a half points, though somebody
35:44
Speaker 4: earlier said nine and a half points.
35:46
Speaker 1: Give me C-L-E-M-S-O-N.
35:53
Speaker 4: Clemson, 10 and a half points. That's where I saw yesterday.
35:58
Speaker 4: That's where we're playing it. Clemson minus the 10 and
36:00
Speaker 4: a half. Listen, LSU could have five NFL players in
36:05
Speaker 4: this game, right? Five, as many as five. My sources
36:08
Speaker 4: in the locker room say that's a problem for LSU.
36:10
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin could say it's good all he wants. It's
36:12
Speaker 4: a problem for LSU having five NFL players.
36:14
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has a losing record with NFL players.
36:16
Speaker 4: He has a losing record with NFL players. Do not
36:20
Speaker 4: beat me to the words of my own script. Lane Kiffin,
36:23
Speaker 4: you've seen him coach NFL players is what I was
36:26
Speaker 4: going to say.
36:27
Speaker 1: How did that go, Lance? It did not go well.
36:30
Speaker 4: It's not going to go well again. Dabo Sweeney, he's
36:32
Speaker 4: been sitting in the weeds in Clemson. Nobody's talking. Little
36:36
Speaker 4: old Clemson. Little old Clemson.
36:38
Speaker 1: B-Y-O-G. Poor old Dabo. Poor old Dabo.
36:41
Speaker 4: No, sir, they're going to B-Y-O-G, bring their own guts.
36:44
Speaker 4: They're giving me 10.5 points in this game. Tyler Johns,
36:48
Speaker 4: guess what?
36:53
Speaker 1: Clemson. I like this play.
36:55
Speaker 4: I hope Brown hasn't mentioned it once, but I heard
36:57
Speaker 4: the co-host of the next reels on this show. One
37:00
Speaker 4: day say that Clemson's going to beat Miami too. So
37:03
Speaker 4: the co-host of the next reels, he's really big on Clemson.
37:06
Speaker 1: It wasn't you. It was the other guy. Who's that
37:07
Speaker 1: other guy with you? That would be Lance Taylor. Lance Taylor.
37:11
Speaker 4: He likes Clemson beating Miami. Give me Clemson. Plus ten
37:15
Speaker 4: and a half.
37:15
Speaker 1: We don't need them. They win this game outright. Who's
37:18
Speaker 1: the quarterback? For Clemson? Yeah. Do you want me to
37:22
Speaker 1: tell you? Dabo has an announcement. Well, I know. That's
37:23
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Is it going to be Tate? Is
37:24
Speaker 1: it going to be Vazina? I don't know. No, it's
37:26
Speaker 1: going to be Vazina. He's going to play all snaps.
37:28
Speaker 1: All the snaps. Yeah, he's going to tear it up.
37:29
Speaker 1: I'm going to check. I bet the orange is back
37:31
Speaker 1: in there. I bet he definitely emptied the clip on
37:33
Speaker 1: that orange, and I bet it's back over there. I
37:35
Speaker 1: guarantee it draws. My question is, as you're... success continues
37:40
Speaker 1: and your head gets bigger and bigger, are we going
37:42
Speaker 1: to have to get a bigger size of the headband?
37:45
Speaker 4: This is a different mask that I wore last year
37:48
Speaker 4: and it's killing my eyes. Like your eyes aren't, the
37:50
Speaker 4: holes aren't big enough for your eyes.
37:51
Speaker 1: I agree completely. My eyes agree too. I don't wear
37:56
Speaker 1: the other mask. The bands above the ears are screaming
37:59
Speaker 1: right now. I'm going to have pink eye tomorrow. I
38:01
Speaker 1: don't know. Where did that one come from?
38:03
Speaker 4: It was saying it to me. It was like, here's
38:05
Speaker 4: your mask from last year.
38:07
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. The bands just above the
38:11
Speaker 1: ears are like the waistband of Chip Kelly's coaching shorts.
38:15
Speaker 1: They're screaming right now. I agree. All right. That is
38:18
Speaker 1: an upset alert for week one. Around the table, we've
38:20
Speaker 1: got two Clemsons. We've got one Arkansas State, a Tulsa,
38:25
Speaker 1: and a Youngstown State. Nothing screams week one more than
38:29
Speaker 1: an Arkansas State, a Tulsa, and a Youngstown State. in
38:33
Speaker 1: Upset Alert. That's week one. We're getting ready for the games.
38:36
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll make more picks. How about
38:39
Speaker 1: who's going to win the Heisman Trophy? You want more picks?
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38:55
Speaker 1: part of your weekend coming up. Week one officially kicking
38:58
Speaker 1: off on Thursday night. Couple SEC games going on Thursday
39:03
Speaker 1: and Friday. Missouri opens up against Arkansas Pine Bluff. Friday
39:06
Speaker 1: you get UTEP and Oklahoma to kick off the SEC season.
39:10
Speaker 1: Best game on Thursday night though, Colorado and Georgia Tech.
39:15
Speaker 1: 7 o'clock Central, 8 Eastern on ESPN where Georgia Tech's
39:19
Speaker 1: about a 6.5 point favorite in that one. Alberto Mendoza
39:25
Speaker 1: getting his first career start for Georgia Tech. The key
39:30
Speaker 1: to that game though to me is what does colorado's
39:34
Speaker 1: defense look like against the run game of justice haynes
39:37
Speaker 1: the one-time alabama and michigan running.
39:39
Speaker 2: Back not as justice haynes i mean you look at
39:42
Speaker 2: alberto mendoza his ability to run the football he's not
39:45
Speaker 2: going to be the same quarterback as his brother but
39:47
Speaker 2: He played eight games last year. When he came in,
39:49
Speaker 2: his ability to run at long strides, very athletic. You know,
39:54
Speaker 2: a different runner than Haynes King, but they're going to
39:56
Speaker 2: have that similar offense, though, and Justice Haynes is going
39:58
Speaker 2: to be a big part of it.
40:00
Speaker 4: Keith immediately in the chat room says Tech large. I mean,
40:03
Speaker 4: I think that's going to be a very, very popular
40:05
Speaker 4: pick Thursday night. Everybody's looking at this point spread.
40:07
Speaker 1: It's a weird number.
40:08
Speaker 4: They can't figure it out. Like, Georgia Tech is at home.
40:11
Speaker 4: Colorado did not have a good season last year. Georgia Tech.
40:14
Speaker 1: Had a pretty good season.
40:15
Speaker 4: Brinkey, it seems like programs that are going opposite directions
40:18
Speaker 4: right there, yet this is a pretty small number for
40:20
Speaker 4: Colorado on the road.
40:22
Speaker 1: I look at it, dude, I'm like, how is this
40:24
Speaker 1: only six and a half? It's a weird, stinky fish
40:27
Speaker 1: type number.
40:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how good is Julian Lewis going to be
40:29
Speaker 2: a quarterback? You know, I think that's a big question
40:32
Speaker 2: for Colorado.
40:33
Speaker 1: He had some moments last year. Remember, they lost their
40:35
Speaker 1: best left tackle to LSU. Jordan Seaton. Yeah, but they
40:38
Speaker 1: brought in a ton of portal players, and Deion seems
40:40
Speaker 1: to be happy with it. Interesting game Thursday night, Colorado
40:43
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41:32
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about the Heisman Trophy, sometimes
41:34
Speaker 1: you have to sort of play out the season in
41:37
Speaker 1: your head on what's going to be happening next. near
41:39
Speaker 1: the end of the season when the Heisman votes are
41:42
Speaker 1: finalized during conference championship weekend. So with that in mind,
41:47
Speaker 1: if I said Heisman winner for you guys, where do
41:50
Speaker 1: you start? Like C.J. Carr would be my pick to
41:53
Speaker 1: start with, but then I start playing it out throughout
41:56
Speaker 1: the course of the year. He's going to look really
41:58
Speaker 1: good early on, right, build up some momentum, but his
42:01
Speaker 1: tough games mid and late in the year, especially that
42:04
Speaker 1: Miami game, if they don't win it, I think that
42:06
Speaker 1: kicks him out of the Heisman lead. So I'm interested
42:10
Speaker 1: in where you and Arch's schedule may be too tough
42:12
Speaker 1: for Arch to win it if they don't win all
42:14
Speaker 1: their games. Where do you guys go in the Heisman
42:16
Speaker 1: campaign this year?
42:18
Speaker 2: I think it has become a little bit trendy. If
42:20
Speaker 2: you can find a non-quarterback to win this award.
42:23
Speaker 1: I love C.J. Carr.
42:25
Speaker 2: I agree with Glad he might be the best quarterback
42:26
Speaker 2: in college football coming into the season. I just don't
42:29
Speaker 2: think there's enough quality opponents on that schedule. I think
42:32
Speaker 2: he's going to be a finalist. With all that said,
42:34
Speaker 2: if Miami can go 11-1 or 12-0, I think Malachi
42:37
Speaker 2: Toney could be the guy. I'm going to go Jeremiah
42:39
Speaker 2: Smith at Ohio State because I think those Cornell take
42:42
Speaker 2: grabs 50-plus last year, a lot of those are going
42:44
Speaker 2: to gravitate over to Jeremiah Smith.
42:47
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised if he.
42:48
Speaker 2: Has 90 grabs, 1,500 yards, and 20 touchdowns.
42:53
Speaker 1: Would it surprise you? that Julian Sayen had more passing
42:57
Speaker 1: yards than Arch, more passing yards than Dante Moore, more
43:00
Speaker 1: passing yards than C.J. Carr last year. It's so weird.
43:03
Speaker 4: Because he's an Ohio State quarterback, but it's almost like
43:06
Speaker 4: he plays in anonymity.
43:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying? Nobody talks about
43:10
Speaker 1: him really for the Heisman. I mean, I threw out
43:12
Speaker 1: his completion percentage last week, and you guys were blown away. 73%.
43:14
Speaker 2: 77%.
43:14
Speaker 1: I guess 73%.
43:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:14
Speaker 1: 3,610 yards, 32 touchdowns. Arch only had 3,100 yards, 3,500
43:15
Speaker 1: for Dante.
43:15
Speaker 4: $ 2, 700.
43:26
Speaker 1: For C.J. Carr.
43:27
Speaker 4: I mean, Julian Sane almost gets ignored because it's like
43:31
Speaker 4: he's not going to play in the NFL, most people think.
43:34
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are like, I mean,
43:36
Speaker 4: anybody could have those passing yards at Ohio State. My gosh,
43:38
Speaker 4: he's still one of the best receivers in football.
43:40
Speaker 1: Now, Sane might have this, though.
43:41
Speaker 2: When's the last time Ohio State quarterback, was it Troy Smith,
43:44
Speaker 2: I guess, won a Heisman Trophy in 2006?
43:46
Speaker 1: I believe that's the last one I can remember.
43:48
Speaker 2: But the difference this year, we talk about the difficulty
43:50
Speaker 2: of the schedule. So quarterbacks get a lot of credit
43:54
Speaker 2: for top 25 wins. You've got to go to number
43:56
Speaker 2: five Texas. You go to 22 Iowa, number six Indiana,
44:01
Speaker 2: number 14 USC, number two Oregon comes in, and you've
44:05
Speaker 2: got number 16 Michigan coming in. I mean, you've got
44:08
Speaker 2: difficult games all over the place, so if he's putting
44:10
Speaker 2: up numbers, it's not like he's padding stats against bad competition.
44:13
Speaker 4: So let me answer your question this way, if I
44:15
Speaker 4: could quickly, Dunaway. If you just considered week zero, that's
44:18
Speaker 4: all you can consider right now, who's your Heisman favorite? Like,
44:21
Speaker 4: all you can consider is week zero.
44:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, all you can consider
44:25
Speaker 1: is week zero. Who would you... I'm making a point here.
44:27
Speaker 1: Who would you... So right now, if I... Pribula, probably. Yeah,
44:30
Speaker 1: both Pribula, probably. Or Pribula. How do you say it?
44:32
Speaker 1: Pribula or Pribula? I've always said Pribula. But him? I
44:36
Speaker 1: heard it's... In the actual game, I heard it said
44:38
Speaker 1: three different ways. I've always said Pribula. Undetermined. And I
44:41
Speaker 1: think that's right, but... All right. Who do you see...
44:45
Speaker 1: But would that not be the favorite right now? Probably, probably.
44:48
Speaker 4: Who do you see in week one games? Like if
44:50
Speaker 4: you just consider week one, like you could foresee them
44:53
Speaker 4: taking a Heisman.
44:54
Speaker 1: Lead if that's all you considered. I mean, Dante Moore
44:57
Speaker 1: is going against Boise. It's a brand. And it's on CBS,
45:01
Speaker 1: so a lot of people will see it.
45:02
Speaker 2: I mean, Byron Brown, if he comes out and just
45:04
Speaker 2: completely lights it up. It's on ABC, so a lot
45:06
Speaker 2: of people will see it.
45:07
Speaker 1: That could be one. I mean, obviously Sam Levitt. No doubt. C.J. Carr, though,
45:11
Speaker 1: on Sunday night against Wisconsin, if Notre Dame does that.
45:15
Speaker 1: I'm going to send it out on Monday night.
45:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
45:17
Speaker 1: Or Sunday night, excuse me. Same time. Yeah, I mean, DeMond.
45:20
Speaker 1: So there are a few.
45:21
Speaker 2: DeMond Williams, if Washington goes 10-2 with that schedule, they've
45:25
Speaker 2: got a 3 o'clock NBC Sunday game.
45:27
Speaker 4: But I think the first big Heisman statement game where
45:32
Speaker 4: somebody could stake their flag is Texas-Ohio State. And I
45:37
Speaker 4: think it'll be Arch Manning that stakes his flag there.
45:39
Speaker 4: I think this will be the best we see of
45:40
Speaker 4: Arch Manning, Texas facing Ohio State. It is going to
45:44
Speaker 4: be the game of the nation. Maybe it's that. Maybe
45:46
Speaker 4: the out-of-conference game of the year. I mean, you can
45:48
Speaker 4: put any label on it you want. I think Arch
45:51
Speaker 4: Manning will stake his flag there. Now, are the numbers
45:53
Speaker 4: going to be spectacular? He's playing Ohio State's defense? Probably not.
45:57
Speaker 4: But I think people will look at it with that
45:59
Speaker 4: in mind and understand it's Matt Patricia's defense. and we'll
46:02
Speaker 4: say that was a Heisman-worthy performance, and he'll take the
46:04
Speaker 4: early lead.
46:05
Speaker 1: You guys know this. Nobody wins a Heisman in September.
46:07
Speaker 1: They don't. That is probably the worst place for him
46:09
Speaker 1: to be, in fact, is in the lead at September.
46:11
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't scientific.
46:12
Speaker 2: 75% of these winners come on in November and have
46:15
Speaker 2: these special games.
46:16
Speaker 4: With all that said, I think he will lead start
46:18
Speaker 4: to finish. I think Arch Manning wins the Heisman trophy.
46:20
Speaker 1: But to your point, Lance, Malachi Toney gets a national
46:23
Speaker 1: stage on Friday night, Miami on the road at Stanford.
46:26
Speaker 1: If he goes out and he returns a kick and
46:28
Speaker 1: he Runs one in, throws one. He starts doing that
46:30
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then he gets that early momentum,
46:32
Speaker 1: and you can ride that all year. Where's his biggest game?
46:35
Speaker 1: It's at Notre Dame. At Notre Dame, which is in November, which,
46:37
Speaker 1: to your point, that's where you could really launch it.
46:39
Speaker 2: But Malachi Toney's one of these guys you can look up,
46:41
Speaker 2: and all-purpose yards every game. He's got like 200 all-purpose yards.
46:45
Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. It should be a fun season,
46:48
Speaker 1: so if you had to pick right now. Arch Manning.
46:50
Speaker 1: Arch Manning's the guy I will lock in. I'll go
46:52
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith. And I will go the other
46:56
Speaker 1: side of that, trying to thread the needle. I'll go
46:58
Speaker 1: Julian Sane. I mean, that's the hard part. Is it
47:01
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Is it the receiver? But you're right. It
47:04
Speaker 1: does feel like a Devontae Smith, Mac Jones type situation
47:08
Speaker 1: with Jeremiah Smith because he's considered the best player in football.
47:10
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
47:11
Speaker 2: Devontae was never considered that maybe until the end of
47:13
Speaker 2: the year. I think going into the season, everybody's like,
47:15
Speaker 2: best player in football is Jeremiah Smith. If he puts
47:17
Speaker 2: up massive numbers at the end of the year, an
47:20
Speaker 2: easy argument would be, well, this guy's been the best
47:22
Speaker 2: player in football the last couple of years.
47:24
Speaker 1: He deserves the Heisman trophy.
47:25
Speaker 4: Brady says a running back will win the Heisman this year.
47:27
Speaker 4: If it's a running back, who is it?
47:29
Speaker 1: If it is a running back... There's just not one
47:34
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me.
47:35
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, sophomore out of Ohio State.
47:37
Speaker 1: Another Ohio State player. T. Juan Lacy. I mean, how
47:39
Speaker 1: good is Ole Miss going to be? I mean, he's
47:41
Speaker 1: on the sphere and at Times Square. I would tell
47:44
Speaker 1: you this. There's a resurgent of running back popularity in
47:47
Speaker 1: the NFL, right? Like, you're supposed to draft... If you've
47:51
Speaker 1: got the first three or four picks, you're supposed to
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Speaker 1: draft running back in your fantasy NFL drafts because there's
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Speaker 1: a handful of difference makers like Jameer and Bijan. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've never done a big fantasy league.
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Speaker 2: I know we've done a couple up here, but I'm
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Speaker 2: doing one tomorrow night, and I've got the number one pick,
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Speaker 2: and I'm taking Gibbs.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Gibbs or Robinson. That's right, and that's
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Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do because there's five, six game
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Speaker 1: changers at the NFL level. I don't think that's trickled
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Speaker 1: back down to the college game yet where, The running
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Speaker 1: back used to win the Heisman all the time. I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's trickled back. I think it's more wide
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Speaker 1: receiver or quarterback.
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Speaker 2: I mean, to your point, the best running back room
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Speaker 2: last year, one-two punch, not even close was Jeremiah Love
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Speaker 2: and Jadarian Price, and they didn't even get to a
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Speaker 2: college football playoff.
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Speaker 1: And they were dominant. They really were. And that is
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Speaker 1: a big question mark for Notre Dame, by the way.
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Speaker 1: Can they run the football? I am hating my Tulsa
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Speaker 1: pick now. I wish I'd gone back in. I wish
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Speaker 1: I'd gone Wisconsin. I really feel like Luke Fickle is
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Speaker 1: going to save his job this year. Probably can't upset
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
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Speaker 2: I went through their schedule yesterday, and I was going
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Speaker 2: through a lot of these schedules for win totals, and
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Speaker 2: their win total is six and a half. So I
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Speaker 2: think people are a little higher on fickle this year.
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Speaker 2: I found six wins, but, man, their schedule is tough too.
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Speaker 1: They hit the portal a lot like everyone else, and
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Speaker 1: it's a roll of the dice. Crazy out at Arizona.
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Speaker 1: What was the big marketing thing? Yesterday in trash we
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Speaker 1: had a– computerized worm that didn't look like a worm. Yes.
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Speaker 1: They look something weird. Go check our trash... trash segment
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Speaker 1: out yesterday, hour four of the next round on our platform.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes you design things that are supposed to look
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Speaker 1: one way, and then when they come out of the
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Speaker 1: production line, they don't look that way. In Arizona this year,
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Speaker 1: cut 23, they've got the turnover– sword, right? That I
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Speaker 1: guess is supposed to also look like a cactus. I'm confused. Damn,
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Speaker 1: it's blurry right here. I'm confused at what it's supposed
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Speaker 1: to look like. Here is Arizona unveiling their turnover sword
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Speaker 1: this year.
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Speaker 5: How about September 5th?
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Speaker 1: We're having a turnover sword giveaway. Let's go. All right,
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Speaker 1: Zone of Zoo, get your own turnover sword.
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Speaker 3: We need you guys rocking and rolling, talking crazy to
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Speaker 3: the opponents all game.
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Speaker 5: Get there at 430.
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Speaker 1: Get your own very big time turnover sword. Grip it
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Speaker 1: and rip it. He's gripping it and ripping it. Zone
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Speaker 1: of Zoo, man. Come with y'all.
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Speaker 5: Turnover sword, man.
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Speaker 1: Bear down. The turnover soared this year. Yeah. Marketing department.
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Speaker 1: Rip it and rip it.
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Speaker 2: And they saw this before they sent it out. It
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Speaker 2: was almost, I'll never forget. We were on the second level. Tyler,
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Speaker 2: we're doing a show together probably 15 years ago. And
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Speaker 2: we've got one TV in the studio at that point.
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Speaker 2: And the Shake Weight commercial came on. And like, we
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Speaker 2: had never seen it before.
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Speaker 1: And like, we're. mid interview.
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Speaker 2: And we're looking around at each other, like, Holy shit,
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Speaker 2: what is going on?
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that commercial? They were very excited about
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Speaker 1: getting in shape. They would always shake it near their face.
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? Very excited about it. Yeah. Yeah. And that,
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Speaker 1: that was the commercial. We were like, what is on
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Speaker 1: our TV?
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so they sat there, you know, in, in a boardroom,
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Speaker 2: the marketing team, and they watched the commercial and like,
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Speaker 2: let's send this out. We're going to sell, sell the
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Speaker 2: hell out of some shake weights. You know, their social
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Speaker 2: media team looked at this.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I guess it can be a cactus, too, like you
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Speaker 1: get in the desert. Maybe. But it does look a
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Speaker 1: little prickly. It looks like a wiener with wings. When
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Speaker 1: we come back, we'll go to Baton Rouge, one of
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Speaker 1: our favorites. How do I say his name so I
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Speaker 1: get it right? Matt Muscana. Muscana. Matt Muscana. You guys
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Speaker 1: don't know how to do vowels, he said. Matt Muscana
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