Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Bringing The Stage To Life With SAM TOZER From VISION FACTORY
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'm obviously director Vision Factory. There's a small
- 0:04Speaker 2: company based in Devon that's sort of in the UK
- 0:07Speaker 2: that creative directs, designs and builds shows for all different
- 0:13Speaker 2: types of genres. So on this show we sort of created, directed, lit,
- 0:17Speaker 2: lit and designed the stage for Partway Drives current arena toll.
- 0:25Speaker 2: We been going for about six years now, and yeah,
- 0:29Speaker 2: we're just doing an eclectic group of music really is,
- 0:32Speaker 2: We're not one genre. We we like the challenge of
- 0:35Speaker 2: going from one different type of music style to the next.
- 0:38Speaker 2: So and we basically just do the creative vision for
- 0:41Speaker 2: the band or the DJ or whoever wants to have
- 0:44Speaker 2: something crazy on their stage.
- 0:46Speaker 1: It's the simplest and easiest way to say it.
- 0:48Speaker 3: All right, is it all same? Thanks for your time.
- 0:50Speaker 3: I'st supposedly speaking with you today. Great you too, so
- 0:55Speaker 3: Parkway Drive. I've almost finished the twenty anniversary at the moment,
- 1:00Speaker 3: so you guys have played a big part in it.
- 1:03Speaker 4: So both. Firstly, how are the show's been going?
- 1:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been great.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I think the audience has taken the I guess step
- 1:12Speaker 2: up in their production levels in the right sort of mindset.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I think people weren't expecting Partway to bring this level
- 1:19Speaker 2: of production into especially Australia's shows, but also what the
- 1:24Speaker 2: plan to do for the rest of the cycles. So yeah,
- 1:27Speaker 2: it's been really nicely accepted, really, which is great for us.
- 1:32Speaker 3: I touched on this briefly in the intro made but
- 1:34Speaker 3: you run Vision Factory, which is responsible for pretty much
- 1:37Speaker 3: everything you saw on stage at the show, So give
- 1:40Speaker 3: us a bit of a history on Vision Factory and
- 1:42Speaker 3: what it is you actually do.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 2: So I started a vision Factory with a degree in
- 1:48Speaker 2: lighting design for theater and then started working with a
- 1:52Speaker 2: few electronic artists in the UK and that sort of
- 1:55Speaker 2: snowboard into what we have today, which is international creative
- 2:00Speaker 2: agency that designs. We're like the idea people we come
- 2:04Speaker 2: up with. The initial thought process is the technical drawings
- 2:08Speaker 2: of how to implement it, and then we there for
- 2:10Speaker 2: the delivery as well. We specialize in stage mainly. But yeah,
- 2:17Speaker 2: so we work really closely with Parkway, the band, their
- 2:20Speaker 2: production management team and all the other crew members that
- 2:24Speaker 2: are all involved and very important to the show to
- 2:27Speaker 2: just to make sure the show is what the band
- 2:30Speaker 2: and ourselves envisioned.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Really, and how did you become to be involved with
- 2:35Speaker 4: this particular tour.
- 2:36Speaker 2: With this tour, Luke the guitarist, he reached out to
- 2:40Speaker 2: me on an email, as simple as that, and then
- 2:45Speaker 2: we helped program his their summer festival tour.
- 2:49Speaker 1: This year.
- 2:51Speaker 2: It was another designer and we just did the programming
- 2:53Speaker 2: and then we were brought in fully to do the
- 2:56Speaker 2: well creative on this arena tour.
- 2:59Speaker 3: So yeah, so in a nutshell like you created a
- 3:02Speaker 3: one of a kind apocalyptic landscape as part of parkway
- 3:05Speaker 3: drive side set up. So how difficult was that to doing?
- 3:08Speaker 3: Like I wad to the Brisbane show and it's pretty impressive.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Man, how difficult was it?
- 3:13Speaker 1: I guess it's not too difficult for me.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I'm the ideas guy. It's probably more difficult for the
- 3:19Speaker 2: production team. I have to put it in and out
- 3:20Speaker 2: every day. The touring cycle is very difficult. But yeah,
- 3:26Speaker 2: the show sort of has been involved. Luke and Winston
- 3:30Speaker 2: had a very and the rest of the band had
- 3:31Speaker 2: a very strong vision of what they wanted.
- 3:34Speaker 1: At the start.
- 3:34Speaker 2: They wanted to think that was very scenic based and
- 3:36Speaker 2: not video screen based.
- 3:37Speaker 1: As we are constantly evolved.
- 3:40Speaker 2: With shows of just big screens at the back and
- 3:42Speaker 2: we wanted something different, and then from there we sort
- 3:46Speaker 2: of took that idea of a physical being and created
- 3:50Speaker 2: this monolithic bridge sort of thing with a set designer
- 3:53Speaker 2: that I worked with very closely, called Floor Harvey. And
- 3:56Speaker 2: then it's from there it just sort of spiraled into
- 3:59Speaker 2: this crazy opera sort of show that everybody sort of
- 4:02Speaker 2: is really enjoying at the moment, gooding ourselves.
- 4:06Speaker 3: I mentioned that the boys from the band were involved,
- 4:09Speaker 3: but how hands on were they during the whole procession?
- 4:12Speaker 4: All over their over your shoulder go, like, I know.
- 4:13Speaker 1: This was I think it. It came with the initial brief. Obviously.
- 4:21Speaker 2: What I like to do with Vision Factory is I
- 4:22Speaker 2: like to present my sort of aesthetic and themes that
- 4:25Speaker 2: I think that would work well for them, just to
- 4:27Speaker 2: make sure we're aligned in sort of the same thing.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Nothing work, Nothing worse than working with thanever creative who
- 4:34Speaker 2: doesn't see eye to eye. Luckily they did, so then
- 4:37Speaker 2: from there they sort of gave me a bigger brief,
- 4:40Speaker 2: some ideas that they loved, and then I came back
- 4:43Speaker 2: with this bridge idea, this monolithic world, and then basically
- 4:48Speaker 2: from there we would come back with concept renders and
- 4:51Speaker 2: drawings and ideas, and then they would chime in and
- 4:54Speaker 2: add their ideas to the show and see what's possible
- 4:56Speaker 2: and what isn't possible, and it's a really collaborative.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I couldn't say.
- 5:01Speaker 2: You know, Winston wanted the idea of this cool mic stand,
- 5:04Speaker 2: but didn't know what the mic stand was. So we
- 5:06Speaker 2: went and did some research, came back with like the Thorns,
- 5:08Speaker 2: and then that progressed into this this thing that's on stage.
- 5:13Speaker 2: And that's the same with pretty much every department. You know,
- 5:16Speaker 2: the guys know exactly what they want when it comes
- 5:18Speaker 2: to Pyro, but when it comes to lighting and staging
- 5:22Speaker 2: that you know, they just needed a little bit of
- 5:24Speaker 2: someone asked his ideas to go with it.
- 5:27Speaker 3: So from when you actually first started work on the
- 5:30Speaker 3: project to completion, how long is the process?
- 5:35Speaker 2: I think they reached out to us in March, so
- 5:38Speaker 2: it's been six month process probably would say, from initial
- 5:42Speaker 2: ideas all the way down to programming and deliverery.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yeah, and then what's the actual set made of? Is
- 5:48Speaker 3: it made of proper steel and stuff like that?
- 5:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a metal framed scenic set
- 5:54Speaker 2: piece is clouded and wood and then and then it's
- 5:57Speaker 2: scenically dressed to look like in the povertyhoods with Bridge.
- 6:02Speaker 2: It's very easy tour ability really.
- 6:05Speaker 3: And so so touch on this before too, But live
- 6:08Speaker 3: shows are normally highlighted by visuals and effects like especially
- 6:11Speaker 3: screens to the back and that, but for this one,
- 6:13Speaker 3: you focused on on the particular theme.
- 6:16Speaker 4: So is it the first time you've done something.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Like this, No, it's not, it's not the first time.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I I the more I guess, the more we go
- 6:23Speaker 2: and do the bigger shows, the more I've become more
- 6:26Speaker 2: reluctant to add a screen unless it's really needed. Especially
- 6:32Speaker 2: with this show, we wanted to create like a super
- 6:34Speaker 2: dynamic performance such as rather than just watching a band play,
- 6:39Speaker 2: so we wanted to like really rely heavily on lighting
- 6:43Speaker 2: and like the scenic world and the depth that it
- 6:45Speaker 2: can make. So yeah, just we just didn't feel the
- 6:50Speaker 2: need and that the band definitely didn't feel the need
- 6:52Speaker 2: to have a screen there either, So which is I
- 6:54Speaker 2: think is sometimes can take distraction or take your vocals
- 7:00Speaker 2: away from from the band and you start just watching
- 7:03Speaker 2: a TV at the end of the room rather than
- 7:05Speaker 2: watching them actually perform. So that was that was, Yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 2: that was one of the rationales for not having screens,
- 7:12Speaker 2: and that's kind of stuff.
- 7:14Speaker 3: And now like you've finished your part of the tour
- 7:17Speaker 3: you're saying before, like, now you've actually seen everything close
- 7:19Speaker 3: up and it's been through the process on stage, will
- 7:22Speaker 3: you consider it a success?
- 7:24Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so.
- 7:25Speaker 2: I think it's like I said, it's my first Parkway
- 7:29Speaker 2: Drive arena show or first full scale Parkway Drive show
- 7:33Speaker 2: over them festivals. So it's been a bit of an
- 7:36Speaker 2: awakening for me. But I think everybody's loving it. You know,
- 7:42Speaker 2: on online, is reaching back to the UK, it's reaching
- 7:45Speaker 2: across to America. I've got a lot of messages, so
- 7:47Speaker 2: I feel like it has been success and it's a
- 7:51Speaker 2: really I enjoy I've watched the show every night for
- 7:53Speaker 2: the last I don't know, two and a half weeks.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I'm still not bored of it, so that's got to
- 7:58Speaker 1: be something, right.
- 8:00Speaker 4: Are there you a metal fan made or is it not?
- 8:03Speaker 1: No?
- 8:03Speaker 2: I like, I like a bit of metal, yeah, but again,
- 8:06Speaker 2: we work with so many different genres.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I don't think I could be like I just this
- 8:09Speaker 1: isn't a metal you know.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Another key component is the use of natural elements such
- 8:16Speaker 3: as fire, water, wind, and earth to accentuate the music.
- 8:19Speaker 3: So that's taking a lot of planning, Like everything's got
- 8:22Speaker 3: to be just right for.
- 8:23Speaker 4: Something like that.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Done it, Yeah, it does.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It does, like for example, a very very important part
- 8:28Speaker 2: and fish hues. The production managers very very crucial to
- 8:31Speaker 2: make these parts happen. Like we can come up with
- 8:34Speaker 2: the crazy ideas, but like for example, collecting the water
- 8:38Speaker 2: when the rain on the B stage, that's also a
- 8:40Speaker 2: left where the drum kit comes out of and that
- 8:42Speaker 2: also bounds on fire, and there's guys underneath there for
- 8:45Speaker 2: the whole show, putting stuff together and sending dances up.
- 8:49Speaker 2: So we've got to make sure that all those elements
- 8:52Speaker 2: sit nicely within each other. And bringing that into a
- 8:55Speaker 2: touring environment, especially across Australia, is obviously a difficult.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Thing to do.
- 9:00Speaker 2: But I think it's as you can when that rain
- 9:02Speaker 2: comes up for the first time and you hear the
- 9:03Speaker 2: crowd go like, you know, it's worth it.
- 9:07Speaker 4: I think I know. I was there looking at it.
- 9:09Speaker 4: I was just I was trying to figure out whether
- 9:11Speaker 4: it was real water or not, or whether it's some
- 9:12Speaker 4: sort of effect.
- 9:13Speaker 1: But yeah, it's real water. Yeah, it really rains on
- 9:17Speaker 1: the stage.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Yet, so what was some of the highlights for you,
- 9:21Speaker 3: Like when you're sitting back there watching it yourself, even
- 9:23Speaker 3: though you knew what was coming and only knew how
- 9:25Speaker 3: to be put together, what was some of the highlights
- 9:28Speaker 3: for you?
- 9:29Speaker 1: Well, one of them was the dancers at the start.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I would say that some of us were maybe not
- 9:34Speaker 2: too sure about it because obviously you don't really see
- 9:37Speaker 2: them on a on a on an environment like this,
- 9:40Speaker 2: but I feel they really add to it, especially during
- 9:42Speaker 2: cemetery at the start. It just gives a little bit
- 9:45Speaker 2: more of a storylines to the show, and just I
- 9:48Speaker 2: think overall, just like it feels like a giant build
- 9:51Speaker 2: up from the start of the show too obviously brushed
- 9:55Speaker 2: while Winston's on his floating stage and his fire coming
- 9:58Speaker 2: out of it, you know, the whole show just starts
- 10:00Speaker 2: getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and sort
- 10:02Speaker 2: of ends with crushed and then has this really nice
- 10:05Speaker 2: moment that sort of takes you back to the start
- 10:07Speaker 2: to finish the show off at the end. So I
- 10:09Speaker 2: feel like just the whole story and the way it
- 10:12Speaker 2: all goes into each others is being worked in, and
- 10:15Speaker 2: that's that's down to the band and choosing the.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Right set list and stuff like that.
- 10:18Speaker 3: So yeah, and which which part of it was the hardest.
- 10:22Speaker 4: Speed to get right?
- 10:23Speaker 1: Uh, hardest to get right?
- 10:26Speaker 2: Lighting it, you can that space is beautiful and it
- 10:30Speaker 2: looks great, but also trying to keep the continuous energy
- 10:35Speaker 2: of what Partway Drive produces with their music with programming
- 10:40Speaker 2: sort of a theater looking show is quite complicated, and
- 10:43Speaker 2: there's hundreds and there's actually thousands of us in the
- 10:45Speaker 2: lighting desk, so it's continuously triggered to make.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Sure you still feel like you're a rock gig.
- 10:51Speaker 2: But also it looks I would guess a little bit
- 10:53Speaker 2: different than you would usually expect.
- 10:57Speaker 3: And as I suppose the band would have had to
- 10:59Speaker 3: have if you run on the stage to make sure
- 11:01Speaker 3: everything was correct, like make any last minute adjustments.
- 11:06Speaker 2: There's always adjustments every day. Every day we have feedback
- 11:10Speaker 2: from the band and we do tweaks and stuff. You know,
- 11:13Speaker 2: we did a week or a few eight days or
- 11:17Speaker 2: so in production rehearsals.
- 11:19Speaker 1: So we build the whole arena in a in a.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Warehouse away from fans and we just rehearse and tweak
- 11:26Speaker 2: and change and or does that work?
- 11:28Speaker 1: That doesn't work?
- 11:29Speaker 2: You know, it's quite a collaborative process and nobody's in
- 11:32Speaker 2: the room trying to do the best.
- 11:33Speaker 3: So and I guess like parts of it they had
- 11:37Speaker 3: to actually act in a sense in some parts of
- 11:39Speaker 3: it to sort of make it look good.
- 11:40Speaker 4: So how are Parkway Driver's actors? Are they way better
- 11:43Speaker 4: musicians and actors?
- 11:44Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 11:45Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I think Winston plays the character
- 11:51Speaker 2: very well, and especially given the confidence with the dancers
- 11:54Speaker 2: as well, I think that's a that's a strong new
- 11:57Speaker 2: element to the show. And I think as the boy
- 12:01Speaker 2: you can see over our few shows, the boys have
- 12:03Speaker 2: really started enjoying.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Playing on that stage space. So that's nice for us
- 12:06Speaker 1: to see.
- 12:08Speaker 3: I suppose like they'd have to be because like with
- 12:09Speaker 3: the fire and stuff like, they'd have to make sure
- 12:11Speaker 3: they weren't standing.
- 12:14Speaker 4: So like it's it's it's it's an.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Added element for the band because they they are acting
- 12:18Speaker 3: in certain spots would be they've got to be mindful
- 12:20Speaker 3: not to stuff up. I guess, so like it's would
- 12:23Speaker 3: be an easy thing for them to get their head
- 12:25Speaker 3: around to.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Start off with.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, but I think you know, Parkway the
- 12:29Speaker 2: boys have been very used to playing with heaps of
- 12:32Speaker 2: pyro and flames in the past, so I think having
- 12:36Speaker 2: that telling them where to stand and make sure they
- 12:39Speaker 2: don't get their faces burn off is it is quite
- 12:40Speaker 2: a regular thing for them. But I think the stage
- 12:44Speaker 2: is much grander than they're probably used to with the
- 12:46Speaker 2: B stage and the lifts and the and all the
- 12:49Speaker 2: rest of the stuff that's you know, there is probably
- 12:52Speaker 2: get you know, you're going to get used to the
- 12:54Speaker 2: space and make sure you don't trip over.
- 12:55Speaker 1: The soil and whatever else you have to do.
- 12:57Speaker 3: You know, was there anything that they wanted on this
- 13:00Speaker 3: set that it was physically impossible?
- 13:03Speaker 4: Was there anything you had to say? Now do?
- 13:06Speaker 2: They actually said no to me on a few things
- 13:08Speaker 2: and I got it, so yeah, that bridge was you know,
- 13:12Speaker 2: they weren't too sure about it, but I managed to
- 13:13Speaker 2: persuade them.
- 13:14Speaker 1: But no, I think I think the show is exactly
- 13:17Speaker 1: what we envisioned it to be.
- 13:19Speaker 2: And I am very much looking forward to taking this
- 13:22Speaker 2: to other places. If they're going to do that and
- 13:25Speaker 2: developing the show into a into a place where you know,
- 13:29Speaker 2: it keeps on. I think it's going to evolve the show.
- 13:30Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever going to stay in one place.
- 13:33Speaker 2: So that would be good to find out.
- 13:35Speaker 4: So the Parkway Drive tour is done for you. You're
- 13:38Speaker 4: off home surely. So what's what's the next Vision factory?
- 13:43Speaker 1: What's next for us?
- 13:44Speaker 2: We are flying to Los Angeles very soon to build
- 13:47Speaker 2: the new Don Dollar Show, which is never Australian client
- 13:49Speaker 2: of ours.
- 13:50Speaker 3: So it's just say someone from bands are in the
- 13:54Speaker 3: crowd watching and they're like, we want to have a
- 13:56Speaker 3: crack at these guys, Like how do they get in
- 13:57Speaker 3: contact with you?
- 13:58Speaker 1: Fin a website Vision that's about true dot co dot
- 14:01Speaker 1: UK and that's.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Us fantastic, Sam, all right, well thanks for you. Tom
- 14:05Speaker 3: hadn't been the place to speak with her. Was a
- 14:07Speaker 3: It was a fascinating and beautiful production made. Like I say,
- 14:09Speaker 3: we're in Brisbane, we're in all watching its congratulations, well
- 14:13Speaker 3: done and player