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Altered TCG Update Print-on-Demand System Faces Delays · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Mommy, I know.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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  Speaker 2: the only, the w o Okay, I e one misfit
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  Speaker 2: short of a happy meal this week. But we do
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  Speaker 2: have ogre.
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  Speaker 3: How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: We have the evil one Zach, every crime, we have
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  Speaker 2: Dexter and his very lovely mother.
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  Speaker 3: He everyone, and we have coal.
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  Speaker 1: Eh.
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  Speaker 4: Hello everybody, kids, remember to eat your wheaties, eat your
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  Speaker 4: wheaties and tell your mom you love her tonight. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just saying, and everybody tell Dexter's mom you love her.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. She's a very lovely lady.
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  Speaker 5: We love you, Dexter's mom, and we really hope you
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  Speaker 5: enjoy the crock thought that your son got you lest
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  Speaker 5: yet instead of going out and shopping for a good gift.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she needed a seventh that's what I heard. We're
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  Speaker 2: not the story.
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  Speaker 3: What kind of a should you gift? Are you going
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  Speaker 3: to get her for Christmas? What we got to ask
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  Speaker 3: the one that's true?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of rallies or what kind of a yeah
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  Speaker 3: gift rallies? Have you you entered it lately?
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  Speaker 6: That out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't entered in any but you know, something can
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  Speaker 6: always happen.
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  Speaker 3: That's right?
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  Speaker 2: Are you are you gifting gift? Like? What what are
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  Speaker 2: these rallies?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Well, one thing we have to keep in mind, like
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  Speaker 5: we're giving them a hard time, right, But also, Dexter
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  Speaker 5: is an eighteen year old in college. Yeah, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: I'm thinking back to the time when I was eighteen
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  Speaker 5: and in college and how poor I was. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm I think I'm ready to forgive him.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I'm not, No, no, not yet, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Later, Okay. Well, he has money to spend on altered.
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  Speaker 3: He has money to spend out. His mom does because
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  Speaker 3: he never spends it un altered either.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of doing a faction break, he could have bought
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  Speaker 2: his mom a nice sweater.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he didn't do the faction break. He only spends
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  Speaker 5: money on Keythorge.
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna say. He flew He flew up to play
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  Speaker 3: key Forge for Worlds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in that and it's a nice sweater yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Time to go over the Unique of the week because
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  Speaker 2: he decides to not show up and then flaunt his
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  Speaker 2: brand new unique in front of us. This is his unique, right.
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  Speaker 3: It is open, just opened, and I was so excited
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  Speaker 3: to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About rash out the kitchen.
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  Speaker 3: Huh yeah, of a gold god Teer pack that of
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  Speaker 3: which I got fucking jack ship.
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  Speaker 5: No you got a unique, Oh yeah, yours didn't know
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  Speaker 5: his didn't come out of the god pack though.
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  Speaker 2: How many cards are the pack? Fifteen?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: In a God practice ten uniques?
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  Speaker 2: Ten and not one of those was Lyra.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like these either. I feel like I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to the casino and just getting robbed every time.
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  Speaker 3: I alle the luck came to me. I say, like
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  Speaker 3: two weeks in a row, you've got. Two times in
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  Speaker 3: a row you've gotten.
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  Speaker 5: I will say most of the us, like across the
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  Speaker 5: board that were open tonight were garbage, but there were
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  Speaker 5: there were three. There were three good ones that I marked.
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  Speaker 5: One was Cole's, one was C's, one was yours, Wookie,
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  Speaker 5: and then there were two that I considered playable of
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  Speaker 5: the good ones.
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  Speaker 2: So my crummy robinhood is playable in my fen deck.
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  Speaker 3: You think I think it's good in a fin deck.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even think I can second abilities.
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  Speaker 2: I only need two more uniques now to actually have something,
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  Speaker 2: because every unique I've ever pulled either a isn't like
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  Speaker 2: this will be my second literally second Liray unique. I
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  Speaker 2: now own two.
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  Speaker 4: I'll send you one of my skalds.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, appreciate to look.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know if I have any. I have one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they exist, but we'll come. We'll come
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  Speaker 2: to that in a future segment. Let's go through the
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  Speaker 2: Hatter real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm excited about this one. I made us pivot.
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  Speaker 5: We had a red picked out that Cold had supplied.
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  Speaker 5: But I just think this Hatter is super dope. So
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  Speaker 5: it is a five to five. Cost stats are zero
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  Speaker 5: seven to four, which all of this pretty much what
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  Speaker 5: you'd expect for a Hatter, like they usually always have
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  Speaker 5: a zero stat I think their normal stats are zero
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  Speaker 5: five to five, so this is upwards one point one
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  Speaker 5: stat point compared to normal. But then the first ability
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  Speaker 5: is if you control one or more landmarks. Mind you,
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  Speaker 5: this is in Bravos. I don't know if we said
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  Speaker 5: reduce my cost by one. So if you're in brav
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  Speaker 5: you're probably running a haven because they're incredible. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 5: running Boundary Kojo. You probably have the landmark. This isn't
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  Speaker 5: a faction that's lacking them, so that makes this a
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  Speaker 5: four to four. Quite often for zero seven to four
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  Speaker 5: which is just good before we talk about anything else.
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  Speaker 5: And then you have, oh he is four by normal
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  Speaker 5: or for cost normal. Sorry, my crew just provided for
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  Speaker 5: me what the like rare card looks like. So normally yeah,
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  Speaker 5: four five five zero, So it's a stat shift and
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  Speaker 5: we net a point for.
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  Speaker 3: One cost I guess.
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  Speaker 5: But anyways, the second ability is what blew my mind.
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  Speaker 5: When a character you control gains one or more boosts,
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  Speaker 5: draw a card in Bravos.
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  Speaker 2: It seems pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Holy hell, like you're in a faction that an a character,
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  Speaker 5: any character anywhere on your board, doesn't matter what expedition.
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  Speaker 6: It's then two other little guys you're playing that are
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  Speaker 6: getting Haven boosts, you're getting draws.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go back. I was like, was it
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  Speaker 2: is it any character any character control control? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not any character. It might be busted, it'd be nuts.
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  Speaker 5: So but even even without that, you pay this thing
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  Speaker 5: you play at four. Yeah, you pay four for this thing.
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  Speaker 5: And notably, if you're running Haven, whenever you play this
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  Speaker 5: from reserve, it doesn't say other than me. So you'll
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  Speaker 5: you'll get a draw off of just playing this card.
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  Speaker 5: Because he'll hit the board, Haven'll give him a boost.
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  Speaker 5: He'll see that trigger to draw card. So we're already
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  Speaker 5: at four zero seven to four for haven trigger and
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  Speaker 5: if you're in foundry you can do that both from
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  Speaker 5: hand and from reserve. If you've ramped and you have
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  Speaker 5: some more manuta to spend. After that, you can turn
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  Speaker 5: cards like Physical Training into plus three boosts and draw
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  Speaker 5: two cards for three, which is nuts. Any of the
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  Speaker 5: like Chiron, like the Little Boost Suite all turn into
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  Speaker 5: staple a draw onto them that turn, and this isn't
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  Speaker 5: a faction that is starved for card draw So I
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  Speaker 5: think this unique is nuts and we're not even to
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  Speaker 5: the end of its end of its things yet. It
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  Speaker 5: also has a quick action. It's the standard discard one
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  Speaker 5: target character with hand cost three or less can gain
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  Speaker 5: anchored So I'm probably never using that, but like, maybe
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  Speaker 5: it wins somebody a game at some point when they
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  Speaker 5: don't need to draw cards.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is pretty similar to the Shin Long
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  Speaker 6: that we discussed I think like four weeks ago, except
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  Speaker 6: the Shin Long costs more and Shinlong just gets less
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  Speaker 6: play so it's less useful, and it required the boost
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  Speaker 6: to be on itself the draw card, and that was
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  Speaker 6: still a great card. This one is when any character
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  Speaker 6: gets a boost draw card. So that's a lot more
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  Speaker 6: utility right there, especially since the other cards that could
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  Speaker 6: be getting boosts have seasoned as well well.
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  Speaker 2: I believe any card that says do a thing your
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  Speaker 2: faction normally would do draw card is good in this game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It could read zero zero, zero, and
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that it says do the thing your
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  Speaker 2: faction wants to do draw card. That seems pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the things I think is really neat
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  Speaker 5: about this card is in most cases, when you get
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  Speaker 5: a U for any pick a faction right, very seldom
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  Speaker 5: is every U good for every hero in that faction.
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  Speaker 5: I could make an argument for every hero out of problems.
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  Speaker 2: The second ability says good.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. But think about like we talked
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  Speaker 5: about it before the cast, but if you play this
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  Speaker 5: with Utsadi, you get the discount. So normally, like the
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  Speaker 5: four or five rare Hatter, that rare four hand cost
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  Speaker 5: means that you can't trigger the UTSADI draw with it.
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  Speaker 5: But this one, being five to five with the discount
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  Speaker 5: off of a haven means that you could play this
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  Speaker 5: get a draw for Atsadi's trigger. If you're playing it
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  Speaker 5: from reserve. You can then get the draw from playing
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  Speaker 5: it with the haven and then carry on about your
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  Speaker 5: business and you know, fill your hand.
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  Speaker 3: Up and do all the things. I think it's just cool.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a really neat unique.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I f C does not like this. One just has
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  Speaker 4: to borrow it, put it on the IOU.
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  Speaker 5: She Yeah, he's a hard banda please, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: He can report back next week. Perfection And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that exists in.
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  Speaker 5: This specifically in use, like you're playing against the algorithm lottery.
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  Speaker 2: There's a handful of them out there that are like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: chef's kiss, right, but like those are few and far between,
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  Speaker 2: and they're in and they're all.
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  Speaker 4: I saw some really good Muna ones in one of
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  Speaker 4: the tournaments this week. It was basically someone just collected
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  Speaker 4: uniques that just anchor, anchor, anchor, and it was very
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  Speaker 4: good because it was all three of them had different
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  Speaker 4: ways to anchor stuff. And then yeah, it's just unstoppable.
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  Speaker 4: So we've seen a lot more people seeking out very
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  Speaker 4: specific uniques to get three of them and then that's
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  Speaker 4: the main staple of their deck.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you know it like anything else
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  Speaker 5: as more cards are opened as people are out there
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  Speaker 5: hunting and making trades and making purchases and sales and
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  Speaker 5: everything else, Like we'll start to see more and more
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  Speaker 5: of because it's an algorithm, right, Some cards are gonna suck,
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  Speaker 5: some cards are gonna be really good, and it's going
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  Speaker 5: to take a while for all the really good ones
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  Speaker 5: to kind of circulate upwards where we'll see them, and probably,
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  Speaker 5: like I don't know, some large percentage of all the
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  Speaker 5: US that were generated we'll never lay eyes on because
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  Speaker 5: it's it's casual players at the house with cards that
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  Speaker 5: are secondary market.
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  Speaker 2: Kid, that's like, this card's cool, and like you stuck
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  Speaker 2: it in his bike spoke wheel, like to make the motorcycle.
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  Speaker 5: Noise that never even scanned.
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  Speaker 2: It never be scanned. It'll never see the light of day.
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  Speaker 2: That's where they all are.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, And that's that's unique of the week, really busted
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Had brought to you by Carl's. Oh wait, no we did.
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  Speaker 2: Carls were brought to you by Burger King.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, okay, why are playing permanence? This is the thing
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about this week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is the metal line for this week
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  Speaker 3: because I still have not. I played a game of
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  Speaker 3: Trace and wasn't I wasn't feeling it too much. But
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  Speaker 3: we'll see. But yeah, this week when and when not
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  Speaker 3: to play to permaments. So one of the things you know,
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of these decks, permanents are very big
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  Speaker 3: with that very important. It really depends on the deck, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: so I started going through a lot of them, and
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  Speaker 3: for instance, before the Robin Hood, nerve bautiful metal for
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  Speaker 3: uh for bureaucrats, right, make a bureaucrat cheaper, one cheaper
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  Speaker 3: on the turn two costs it. It's it's very just
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  Speaker 3: like with any other decisions you're making in the game,
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  Speaker 3: it's all about timing. And if you could get that
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  Speaker 3: on your first turn and play another bureaucrat, that's great
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  Speaker 3: because then it's going to be benefiting you for the
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  Speaker 3: full rest of the turn. But I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: in some of the games that I have played with Waru,
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  Speaker 3: and I know this happens with other ones, that I
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  Speaker 3: might try to hit some of those, but like with Waru,
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  Speaker 3: I have maybe like if I see about a fa
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  Speaker 3: meadow in my hand turn three, turn four, turn five,
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  Speaker 3: it's likely not going to get played because at that point,
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  Speaker 3: your opponent or yourself, you've already generating your turns. You've
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  Speaker 3: already generated kind of like the path that you're going
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  Speaker 3: to be following, and you by the tradeoff on playing
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  Speaker 3: any permanent is that you are kind of taking a
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  Speaker 3: turn off and with you know, with the ortis one,
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  Speaker 3: that's a little bit cheaper. But if we go to
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  Speaker 3: the other ortis one, the Bastion or even the carriers, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're taking a turnoff to play those cards. So when
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  Speaker 3: or when not to play these same thing with brass
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  Speaker 3: bag hive right six costs, but it does it's going
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  Speaker 3: to generate so much value for you as you're going further.
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  Speaker 3: What are some of the other ones?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Haven? Right? Haven's a pretty big one because it is
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  Speaker 3: only two cause either yeah, yeah, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like an always play because it is going
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  Speaker 3: to it's not really taking a turnoff, but you are
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  Speaker 3: benefiting yourself so much from then on out.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of cheats too in that it gives you
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  Speaker 5: an immediate benefit and then you can.
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  Speaker 3: Resupply And I was gonna say that one immediately you
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  Speaker 3: can see value out of right because you're you're resupply
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  Speaker 3: and you're putting a card in reserve and then you
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  Speaker 3: can immediately get that bonus. The same thing or that
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  Speaker 3: that same turn same thing with meadow, right, if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to be able to get that discount, technically you're
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  Speaker 3: only paying the one for the meadow, but it's I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, So the trade off is when to play
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  Speaker 3: it when not? And it's really like I was thinking
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  Speaker 3: about this today and before, it's really can you afford
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  Speaker 3: to take that turn off to play one, to play
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  Speaker 3: a card that's going to benefit you potentially the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the game, unless, as happened when I played Traced
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  Speaker 3: earlier yesterday, it was cloth Cocoon, my havens, every single
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: one of my havens, Cocon Cocoon, Cocon just gone right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that was That was pretty devastating because like I had
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  Speaker 3: invested at the time, I invested the resources and I
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  Speaker 3: got nothing for it. Same thing with Bassian Right. You
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  Speaker 3: play the orders bassion either the depending on how you're
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  Speaker 3: playing it, that's four or five mana for either all
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  Speaker 3: characters are non token like that that gets bounced either
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  Speaker 3: you know, back to your hand or to you know,
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  Speaker 3: to your discard. Like not only did you take a
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  Speaker 3: turn off, but how you were going to build off
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  Speaker 3: of that is now gone too, So it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it And I think that a lot of decks
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  Speaker 3: you have to be running removal of those things. Spindle.
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  Speaker 3: Spindle is another one too, for oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot hard to get out and in the
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  Speaker 4: same turn and then so easy to remove.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, only B and three costs, right, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like unfortunately Like itself doesn't have tough, which is kind
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  Speaker 3: of it's kind of sad like and there's.
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  Speaker 4: Only one pan that has tough, yeah, the whole game.
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  Speaker 3: So it again, if you feel like that you can
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  Speaker 3: take the turn off and still benefit it from the
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  Speaker 3: next turn, it's kind of going to be worth to
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  Speaker 3: play it. Keep it in mind that that card could
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  Speaker 3: get bounced just as quickly as you play it. But Haven,
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  Speaker 3: like Haven, and I think Mountiful Meadow, those ones are
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  Speaker 3: are pretty good because you can see almost results immediately.
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  Speaker 3: Even with the carrier you know you're taking. It's the
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  Speaker 3: next day, right, so you're it's it is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: So that one that feels that always feels rough to me,
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  Speaker 5: like which one what carrier? When I'm evaluating with it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the fact that it costs three and gives you nothing
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  Speaker 5: on the.
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  Speaker 3: Immediate Yeah, that one. That one's a little rough, and
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  Speaker 3: like I was looking at so I've looked through all
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  Speaker 3: of them. Now, uh the baba isba. That one gives
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  Speaker 3: you a immediate play, right, you get a draw card
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  Speaker 3: and then you could do the after you or that turn.
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  Speaker 3: The other one, I think is the rare brass bug.
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  Speaker 3: High right, you're creating a brass bug and anytime any
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  Speaker 3: robots join and gets a boose. But it's six, right,
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  Speaker 3: it is six, and it is it is a removal magnet.
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  Speaker 5: Like oh yeah, oh yeah, I think I'm never going
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  Speaker 5: to argue that. Like Sierra is super good right now.
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  Speaker 6: I just today when I was on.
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  Speaker 5: Well, So the one thing that she does that I
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  Speaker 5: think is interesting and with regard to this conversation is
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  Speaker 5: theoretically she turns off some of the penalty of having
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: to find that that correct rhythm to play permanence in
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  Speaker 5: because if it costs three or more, she can.
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  Speaker 3: Get a brass bug out of it.
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  Speaker 5: Now, is is a brass bug going to help you,
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  Speaker 5: really like stop somebody from getting a double advance on
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  Speaker 5: turn three, turn four?
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  Speaker 2: Really like?
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  Speaker 3: But that's the choices, right, Like, you have to understand
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  Speaker 3: if it if you're going to use it now and
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna benefitulator, or if you're going to pay that
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: three four, five six or whatever it is and it's gone,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: you know, and then well, I mean, only only monsters
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: play that, So it's a that's fine.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if if you're tracking conversation earlier today,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: but it's absolutely in line with what we're talking about.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I was playing Tasia up against one of those evil,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: evil Akesha decks. They I'm I'm.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Have you switched? Have you switched? What your buggeyman is?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's no longer, it's no longer. All of artists.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, orts artists made sense to me, so it was
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: never that bad. I still think they have the most tools,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: but it didn't really aggravate me. And Akesha does she
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: They played, they played the categear and then they immediately
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: tapped it for a celestial blast, and that's for free.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: So when it's for free, it ignores tough. It got
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: rid of my hydra and my spindle in one go.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: But also what this means is that they played a
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: categear and you didn't have.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: You did it? Take it out.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: You can't it when it comes down.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: You can't can't if you quick action after.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: You play a card.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I guess I could have done it the
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: next turnover.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, so when they play categear, they're not
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: allowed to use it's it's tap that same Yeah, so
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: that's maybe so the way that I play into those,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Like even if I see removal on turn one when
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I'm into perp will uh Akesha, I will, I will
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: just leave it in the pocket and tell it because
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: I know eventually they're going to hit me with the
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: stupid tower and I'm gonna need it and I don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: want to be without it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just can't trust Akesha players anymore because I
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: was like, maybe this one's good and nope, nope.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So that to the point, I don't know, kind of
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: come to the point where it's like if the bastion sticks, yes,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: it is my end game piece, right, Like it helps
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you push, Like how many times are your landmarks actually sticking?
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you when I played race, is it
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: not very often?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Is it a high enough percentage? Like it's almost to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the point where it's like, man, I'm thinking maybe some
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: of these should just they should be cut from the list.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I know that's a crazy thing
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to say, but it's like, well, man, it's taking up
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: three cuts, taking a two to three cards in your
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: in your list, right some in some cases three raars.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a better choice because if they're
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: just getting bounced, no no, no.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: No no, because you're anticipating that someone's going to have
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the right answer right as you play it. Right like
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: so it reminds me of like what we were discussing
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: anyways about having a like on the opposite side, right,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: you see, that's going to get the perman's going to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: get played. Playing against playing at our local, I played
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: against the store owner and he resupplied into a brass
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: bug hive, And so I knew like the first turn,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and so I knew it was coming right like I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: saw it like turn six, I knew he was going
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to play it. I had removal in my hand, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I kept that removal card the entire time, knowing that
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: was going to hit the table, and then as soon
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: as it did, I blasted it either because like there's
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: no way that I could have contended with that. But
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: at the same time, like for the havens. You play
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: them and you say answer it or you know that
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you're going to get flooded as the player that plays
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: it right, And if they don't, then you're just going
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to keep on pushing that, pushing that, pushing that. Even
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: then by them answering it, they're still spending resources to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: attempt to slow you down. And I think that's why
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: it stays in the deck.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it depends, right, Like, certainly I've played
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: decks where I'm trying to make permanence like off meta
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: permanence work and because there are so many meta permanents,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: people are packing like they're ready to deal with it,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and so off meta can feel very rough because you
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: get hit by all the collateral of people that are
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: ready to snipe havens, just all the time, people that
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: know that spindle's coming and want it gone, categyar whatever,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: even foundry to some extent.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Right, I mean Ortis has no way to get rid
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: of havens.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: That's not true. Ortis has h Colenbers, right, does Ortists
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: have Kellen Burst?
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Yes it does, But I who runs you don't?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: You just don't run it, and so then nobody else
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: runs it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: They're called good players Dexter, I don't know if you've
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: heard of them.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: I guess I don't know.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, although like up until recently, Ortis has never needed
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: to worry about haven.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: No because they had a robin Hood, which that's and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: that's what I was talking about like a couple of
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: weeks ago with the robin Hood nerve right like is
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: that was one of the things that you and I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: discussed taking robin Hood out what you replaced it with
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Kellen Burst, right, because again it's going to answer that
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: small window that Waru had at that time where it was,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you know, not able to contend with Kellen Burst. Would Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: it's hand target hand costs four or less or permanent
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: with hand costs four or less. That hits the haven
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you could do math or not,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: but four is greater than two, so two I.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Cannot worry that. So thank you for explaining that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: That was for that was for Dexter bros.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And like doing his calcol work right now.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Like he was like, man, he's he's trying, he's struggling.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not going well.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It definitely isn't.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But all right, I'm.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Calling an audible on these sheet you know what they say,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: when daddy's away, the sheep will play I am the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: naughty one of the group. Right, Take that how you will,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know how this didn't make the sheet?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: How did the marketplace update not make the sheet?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It's right?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Roe seven row seven, okay, live.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I mean we didn't put market.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the print. Like, how does didn't is
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: beyond me?
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: That is fair because Cole is the one that put
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: the sheet together and is nicer than the rest of us.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeh there eeehaw.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So we'll go over the marketplace check deck construction. There's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a tryst deck over on our Patreon if you want
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to go check out these deck construction that he had
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: done for that. People suck it altered. We know this, dexter.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You sucked marketplace, all right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: So.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Skip rights.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: We're going right through it because like this is not
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: a bigot, Like we had all hope that we had
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: heard by the end of the fourth quarter this year
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: they were hoping to have the marketplace up to take
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: care of your foilers and reprint cards and all that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: kind of fun stuff and kind of like, I guess
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't have any of this information. So I found
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this information like super relevant and interesting, so I'm going
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to assume everyone else does too. Agreed, Yeah, oh you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: want to Yes, I want to go through this article.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they came out about three days ago, so
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that would be right before Thanksgiving ish, the Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The new launch date will be communicated once the test
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: deemed conclusive and only when confident enough to move to
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the open beta phase. We aim to achieve this in
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Yay, So they're
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: looking more towards twenty twenty five.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Which is what long expected.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: That I'd expected.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I got caught off guard, but I guess, like you
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: didn't think it was going to be ready at Q
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: one twenty twenty five, Like, oh.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: No, sorry, I thought it was going to be ready
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: by Q four twenty twenty four. I didn't see the
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: delay coming. A yeah, I delay coming.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I kind of like, I just thought, I know how
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: these things work, and I've been a part of enough
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: game where I'm like, ooh, probably not next year, not
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: really going to happen this year.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: This is just a total guess. But I would think
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: that one of the biggest hang ups when you do
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: something like This is one taxes for every single country
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that you're operating in, and two the app fees which
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: they do mention in here. Like Apple wants to take
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: a cut and they have very strict rules. Google takes
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: a cut as well. They don't have as strict as rules,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: but they still take a cut. Things like that. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: do think that people don't understand how massive of a thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: This is and how difficult it is.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I understand if people.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: The printing cards and getting them to people isn't the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: difficult part, right, It's the market. It's the logistics of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: all of it. So number one, it's going to operate
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: in euros and dollars. That's it. So anything else, if
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you operate rate outside of euros and dollars, you will
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: now be operating in euros and dollars. I don't know
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: how they're gonna do so. Now they gotta. So now
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: they're gonna pay somebody to do some sort of weird
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: conversion I'm sure right, like to figure out the conversion
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: rate and to put that into their system. You will
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: put money into a wallet, and then you will be
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: able to spend the money in your wallet. And it
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: says one for one. I don't know how true that is.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So it says during the deposit, banking and service fees
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: will apply. I'm assuming that is like your bank, if
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you have any fees that you have to pay for,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you know, using a checking or debit card or whatever
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that is. Does that even a thing anymore? Are there
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: debit and are there bank fees that you Does anybody
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: pay bank fees?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe just with PayPal?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: It might be a thing on PayPal, maybe like cash
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: app stuff like that too. I can see that we're
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: working on offering discounts equivalent to these fees that you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: can use the print on demand services i e. Or
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: e g. One dollar in fees would grant you one
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: dollar to sprint spend on print and demand. So how
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to work is you will be able to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: order twenty card packs for reprinting, with a maximum of
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: fifteen packs per order. So I'm assuming I can't order
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a card I have to have at least twenty before
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I'm even to even able to make an order. Is
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that what I'm reading here?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I don't believe that's the case, but it will cost
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you more to do one by one.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Because it says a pack could either contain nonfoil cards
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: or foil cards, but not together. You can order both
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: foil and nonfoil card packs in the you can order
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: packs in the same order, so you either have to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: do all just reprints or all foils.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there will be more hard information coming out
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: in a week or two, and then after after the
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: beta test as well. I think there's supposed to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a follow up article next week, if not the week after,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: with how to sign up for the beta, what it entails,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: all of that, But I don't think the hard financials
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: are in place yet.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Here's where I get confused. Marketplace right to buy and
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: sell your cards. You will access the service through a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: dedicated marketplace space. Purchasing will be made card buy card
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for each seller. You can select multiple copies of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: same card from a single seller, depending on the availability.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: So it's just like I am making a trade for
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: you digital for digital, and I have to do it
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: out of market I have to do it at a marketplace.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: No, so this is only for buying, right like trading
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: is gonna is gonna operate the same things as it
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: does today. It's a separate function of the app. You're
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: going to you know, go in it's like your trade,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: send it to somebody, They look at it and, you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: put up whatever their rebuttal is, and then you guys
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: go back and forth until you agree this is only
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: for buying. And I'm pretty sure what that line means.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: It's just that, like, let's say that you need to
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: buy three copies of a given rare card, right any
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: any individual seller may only have one of them, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: so when you go to buy your three, you may
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: end up buying from three different people. And the marketplace
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: is going to anonymize sales in such a way that
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: you don't actually know who you're buying from. Ever, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: think you're basically just I'm gonna make the assumption because
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: people are gonna be able to put whatever price they
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: want on a thing. You're going to look at a
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: price listing for a thing. So I go to that card,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I see all the listings, you know what prices it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: being sold at. I pick one of them that has
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: a given price. And if I you know, there's like
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: three of these things being sold at five bucks, I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: going to say I want three of these for five dollars.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: And it's going to go out and say, okay, Bob
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: selling one, Terry is selling one, Stevens selling the last one.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Those three will comprise your purchase of three. And then
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: you know how they're going to pull from each of
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: those and make it happen.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Okay? If Alice example, if Alice is offering two copies
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of Cardocks at a dollar at one euro each, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Bob is offering a copy of the same card at
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a euro, you will need one transaction to buy two
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: copies from Alice and one tran and two transactions to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: buy three copies total.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so one transaction to each one transaction well now
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: for each seller each seller, which I think only.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Matters, but two transactions to buy three copies.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Too to get your three copies totally makes sense.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Purchases will be instant in real currency from your the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: ownership rights transferred immediately upon.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: That, and I like the ownership rights being transferred as
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: part of the marketplace by like you don't have to
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: go in there and separately that that'll be really nice.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Your purchases and sales will be fully anonymized. The buyer
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: will not see the seller's name, and the seller will
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: not see the buyer's name. Kind of nice.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: The one thing that I that that does make me
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: question though, is so let's say that like one hundred
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: people have all decided that the price of a.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Given card is two dollars. How are they prioritized?
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: It's random? I'm sure.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I I think that is maybe why the anonimity is there,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: because like, you don't want, you know, a big name
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: to come in and be the only one that is
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: able to sell on the market. And I don't know
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: for sure if this is how it'll work out, but
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I kind of look at it as as the same
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: as the Wow auction house. So the collective public decides that,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: you know, rares of a certain variety are two dollars,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: someone could try to start selling like a hundred of
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that rare if they got it somehow for you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: a one dollar and undercut. But most often, if anyone
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: tries to sell for more, they're just not gonna sell.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna sell that. I guess.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: The thing that I'm worrying about is eventually there's gonna
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: be a ton of you know, insert specific card here
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: wears on the marketplace. And if I'm a seller of
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: that rare, once I put it up on the marketplace,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: as long even if I'm just doing like whatever the
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: accepted prices for that moment in time, it's gonna be.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Very difficult to like work your way through that queue. Right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I guess if a die gets rolled every time and
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: it just picks some.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: One out of like a thousand, you might just never
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: get picked.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: But it also could be the ordering of which people
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: listed it for sale to though, Like I could see that,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: like it internally keeps a list of Okay, player X,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: player Y, player Z listed these copies of the same
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: card in this order, and so that would player X,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: player X would be divvied off for first, then player WY,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: then player Z.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I think that's.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Probably the best way that you can have that problem.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: So I think it's just wild market again, Like if
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: it's the market's flooded, you just leave it up and
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: if it sells, you get the money in your wallet
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: and you're good.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So here's my question. I play Lyra, right, and I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: have six allans, three of which I use. Three I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: am able to part with. How do I know which
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: ones I'm able to use which ones I'm not?
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: What do you mean it doesn't matter? Well, the licenses
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: aren't card specific.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Except for the Kickstarter and the.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: If you have a Kickstarter code, you can use a
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: retail card.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Right, but then why do they have them separate in
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: your card collection?
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I have no.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Idea the potential problem for the marketplace as well, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that's what I think Wookie's asking about.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they've made it clear that in either direction,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: if you have a common code, but you have a
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: KS print of a card, you're good to play it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: If you have a KS code, but you have a
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: retail print of a card, good to play it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: In your inventory to play card, you're able to play cards.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Is it annoying that you could wind up with like
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: the weird mismatch?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: It is, But well, I think.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: From us could cause potential problems for a large event, right.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: We just had this in key Forge. I hate to
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: keep bringing them up, but we did because deck ownership
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: is a real thing in key Forge. Who you're able
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to use and borrow decks from. Somebody came to Worlds
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: with a deck that they thought they were friends with
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: a person and thought they had the ability to use
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: to find out they did not. So all of a sudden,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you show up with your your your your Kickstarter version
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: or you know, and you show up and you're you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: only own the regular versions, but those are sitting thousands
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of miles back at your house.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Row. I like, but I think what you're I think
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: what you're saying is is right, like you, there is
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: no difference to tell between the digital version and the
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: physical version. You're not selling the physical version with this, right,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: You're only selling the digital copy, especially because the.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: The the and oh my gosh, thank you yep, I
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: have a problem with that word.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: The anonymity of the buyer and seller. You would not
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: be able to probably unless somehow you figure that out,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: sell and send the physical copy, which is probably what
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: they're trying to do, right, Oh, you bought the digital diverse,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: you know how the physical you should do print on demand.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: And yeah, they're they're not going to give away to.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: That's part of this. What happens with my physical card.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: They're just dead now they're dead. Yeah, they become dead.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So well, I say dead, you've sold your life. Let's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: say you've got three copies of a rare. Sure you
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: sell all three.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: You now have those three cards, but you don't have
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: three licenses. The intent like when it was discussed way
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: back when a million years.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Ago you could just toss those cards.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: You could throw them, but you can also just leave
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: them in your collection. And then when you need to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: go to an event and it's like, oh, hey, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: am going to run a deck that has this. Either
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: a I can hop on the market place and buy
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: back three licenses real quick, and I already have the
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: three cards.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I don't have to wait for the print on demand.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Or I can call up my buddies at and be like,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: hey man, can you hop on and give me a
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: one day rental of these three cards that features Another
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: one that's coming the ability to like temporarily loan out
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: licenses so that you don't have to trust.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: The other person.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: So having a physical copy of a card that you
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: don't have a license for is not a bad thing.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: It's going to let you be flexible.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: So like a lot of if you're a casual player,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: it's gonna make a lot of sense to get all
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: your cards, find the ones that you really care about,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: and then all the ones that you don't sell your licenses,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: get on the marketplace, put them all up there, keep
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: your cards for playing at your house, and then when
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: it comes time to like you decide maybe you want
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: to actually go play in op you want to go
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: play in tournaments, whatever, you have all the physical cards there,
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: it should be a very quick endeavor for you to
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: hop on purchase the rest of what you need for
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: like license wise out of the marketplace, and if you've
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: already got them, if your local store has them, if
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: your friend has them, you know, physical copies of those cards.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: It should let trading, borrowing, switching decks up last minute.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Like even if, like you just said, right, you have
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: copies of the cards physically, but you realize when you
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: get all the way out there to worlds, oh crap,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: I don't have the licenses that I need for this.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: You just happen to let the marketplace in the lobby.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: By the licenses you need, you're good to go.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so or have a friend send them over.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: So, Tom, if I said your name wrong, I apologize.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But thirty nine cards dot Com is in the audience,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and he said that they have said multiple times that
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: the card version will not matter and any card with
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the same English name is the same for deck check purposes.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: They even said that you'll be able to play with
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: art cards even if you don't own the digital al
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: art version, So it's yeah, I think is long the
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: only way that it could work. Yeah, as long as
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you if your deck physically matches what you have in
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: your altered account ownership, you know, card per card, then
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: it's yeah's not going to really be able to show
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: that this is the Kickstarter version and this isn't the
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Kickstarter version.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I throw around cards, probably a little more
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: than I should. Like, I just traded with some person
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I don't even know, and I don't even know where
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: those cards are that I gave away, but they're artists,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: so I don't care.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: That's that hurts me. That hurts my soul.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It was just a.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Sandman and a well or Despy. They're both pretty good cards.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: But hey, I got a Capellia and a Chronicler, so
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I'll there you go.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Thought I gave you the Capellia Axiom.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Oh Roger, they didn't have any muna that I wanted.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: But I'm trying to get better at organizing my cards.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I have a binder and stuff now. But if it's ortists,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I'm just like here, throw it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Minor on a desk. They're between a desk and a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: coffee table right now. So well, you don't.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: Have that mini Wookie, so it's not that much of
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: a problem for you.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker. I probably got more than you.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: We're doing a box break this week. Yeah, and I'm excited.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not exactly as excited, but they do
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: again now talk about due to taxes and the Apple
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: App Store and Google Play platforms, along with existing legal precedents,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and to ensure the financial viability of the project, we're
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: deciding not to integrate these services directly in the app. Instead,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: short clubs, shortcuts within the Apple redirect you to the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: web version of Altered where you need to log into
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: your account services, so on and so forth. And actually
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: they cite the epic games Fortnite versus Apple that ensued
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a few years ago.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Money.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I love this, and I know some people
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: are going to complain about it, but it is so
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: incredibly smart. And there is one note that Loki provided
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: in the discord which could be changed in the future.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: But because of things like this, if you load money
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: into your wallet, you might not be able to withdraw
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: that money back out specifically, but for all the cards
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: you sell, you'll be able to withdraw that money. So
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: like if you're hurting, if you're hurting for cash or something,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: you sell a bunch of cards, you know, put that
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: in your bank account, you're good to go.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, money you would load on, you're unable to get out.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: It's very strange, the basic I think the basic I
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: don't know. I am less positive about all of it
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: than cold is, so I'm trying to be a good boy.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: But the I think the well, it's commonly digital platforms.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Right, if I load five dollars into Steam, I can't
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: withdraw that back out in debit, can I?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Or if I do it on Go loaded money into
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: a wallet, I've always just linked my card.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I just buy what I need Steam.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I I won't begin to pretend I know why that's
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: the thing, but I think it is very common with
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: anywhere you load money.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Hmm. I feel like that. The I mean, like like
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the Nintendo Online like you said, Steam, Yeah, Blizzard, like anything.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like if you load money into the game,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: you're paying the game at that point, right, and then
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: to have online money or digital currency right.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Fortunately, though that there is a difference between what you
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: guys are talking about is a place for you to
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: go buy a thing, not as a seller versus a
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: marketplace that is designed for buyers and sellers to interact,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: complicating the process of Okay, some of the money that
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: is in my wallet I have access to, and some
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: of the money that is in my wallet I did
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: not have access to.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Ye, I don't know how it's going to play out,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: but like this is this is one of the reasons,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: you know, they're doing a beta first and testing how
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: how everything works out.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: It The whole thing blows my brain just just a
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: little bit that this is part of.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: My my.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know, confusion, pessimism about this whole thing.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Is that like.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: They how long ago now, like the first thing that
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: anybody heard about this game, people were talking about this
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: marketplace and the way that the cards were going to
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: be scanned and sellable and tradable and all this kind
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: of stuff before they were even before they knew how
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: the game played, they knew that this was going to
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: be a thing. Right, It's the first thing that was
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: market It's the first thing that was talked about. We
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: hadn't even really seen cards yet, and we knew this.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: How was were some of these things not like researched
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: and known way back then? Right, Like, was it pitched
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: as an idea and it is like, well, we'd like
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: to do this, but we need enough money to on
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: the kickstarter to be able to like make it a
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: viable route. Because that's not That's never the way that
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: it felt, because I know when I would make arguments
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: because it got there was a couple communities I was
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: in that it just got trashed basically over these things,
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: right Like people did not like the idea of this
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: digital marketplace superseding what they were used to because they're
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: conditioned to like TCG player and stuff like that. And
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: I was like, listen, read this article. They they have
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: a plan, they're going to do these things. They know
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: about it well in advance of the game releasing, well
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: in advance of the kickstarter coming out, Like all of
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: this stuff is already in the works. It's already being
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: worked on and solved, so that when you know, we
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: hit release, naive me way back then thought the release
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: was you know, it was all going to kind of
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: happen at the same time whenever the kickstarter delivered. So
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: I guess that's why I am less. I don't know
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: what the right word is.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Optimistic.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's not that I'm met at them, which
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: I think maybe it could, it could come across that
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: way a little bit. I just think that it it
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: confuses me.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: We're not mad, we're disappointed.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: It's mostly just confused. I don't know, it's it's confusion.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I don't and I think a lot of the confusion
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: comes with like.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: This.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know how a world why this became. And
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: a law that is in France is different than a
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: law that is in the US. That is different than
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: a law that is in Canada, that is different than
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: a law that's in Germany, China, Russia, all these different
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: all these laws are different on what you can and
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: cannot do online. And it has a lot to do
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: with gambling. I know that much that it was a
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: big thing for c us go when the loot box
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it like there are some countries you're not you cannot
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: buy the loot boxes that are out there because they
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: consider it gambling. And like the v bus and all
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: this other things, like there's a lot of laws that
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: get into it, and you have to code for each
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: one of these countries, and then how do you bridge
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the gap between somebody trying to sell something in France.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: That is, he's trying to sell it and somebody in
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: England is trying to buy it, and those laws clash
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: as far as online commerce goes.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: But but if it's you, let's say this is your project,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: how deep are you into those weeds before you make
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: any promises?
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I mean if it's me, I don't even make these promises.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I saved this as a thing that happens later, like
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: and if it happens, it happens, and great under. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: am of the age old under promise, under, promise, over deliver, right, Okay,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: if this is me and created company, I don't say
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Jack squat about this quote unquote marketplace. Maybe I put
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: it on my website and do the coming like they
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: have now, But I don't tell anybody what it's for.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: And I have an idea, and then I work towards
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: that idea, and then once I get it, I release it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Absolutely so so the things that I think in my
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: head right of why why is it still, at this
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: point in the game, still on such rocky footing when
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: it's something that theoretically like they've been working on this
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: game for a lot longer than we've been playing it,
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: talking about it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Podcasting like rocky footing. Like that's not the vibe I
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: get out of this article that it's like super rocky
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: and they don't know. I think a lot of it
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: has to deal more with just okay, the coding issues, right,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Like that's the struggle you're going to have.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: It could be, But it does make me wonder if
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: they got rubb pulled, you know what I mean, Like
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: I feel like just trying to put myself in their shoes.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: For me to have been comfortable making as many promises
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: and being like leading with this foot I would have
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: had to have been very confident in delivering that thing.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: So I wonder if they had everything lined out, they
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: had agreements in place, they had like technical partners that
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: they were they were working with on all of these
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: platforms that said absolutely, you do this, this and this,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: you're good. And then somewhere down the line something got pulled,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: maybe maybe a law pass that they weren't like you
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: were alluding to earlier. Something changed and it part of
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: their plan.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Something did change. I mean I don't think they, I
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: mean doesn't f FG now has a hand in this,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: right not FG.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Oh that's okay.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So that is assuming something back in the day when
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: they were first starting this. I don't think they plan
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: on partnering or selling or whatever is going on with
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Asthma day.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: And that's an angle ahead and considered.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Once you get with a larger company, sometimes rules change.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: When you're a tiny company, you have to buy rules X.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: When you are a multi huge company, multimillion dollar gigantic company,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you have to apply by a whole different set of rules.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: That might it might have something to do it, it
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: might have nothing to do with it. I don't know.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really just the easiest explanation in
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: you can have plans to do things, but once you
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: go to do them, you're going to run into all
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: sorts of issues, even with like you know, development of websites, apps,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: code things like that. Like sure, you can think you're
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: gonna release on this date, but if something throws a
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: wrench in that, then you're not.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: All sudden some code clashes or just in trouble.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I am more surprised that it's not launching with like
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: only in the US and EU countries for now. Coming
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: later will be like UK and other stuff.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I mean they might we're going to do this and
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: then we're going to do this because.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: As of now, they are trying to make it accessible
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: to every single country like it in the whole world.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Well and then a lot of differences.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Them limiting the finances available to uh uh dollar pound
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: may help simplify that a bit, like they're making other
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: people jump through the hoops of conversion before they get there,
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: which which simplifies that problem a little, not a lot.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Aren't they a front they are?
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Indeed, the.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Dollar makes sense.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Oh what did I say pound? It's not pounds?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, heero it is zero.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did say pound. And then I just kind
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: of ran with it because that's how we roll sometimes
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: interesting stuff. Go check out the article if you want
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: to read it for yourself. I do think it is
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: a good article. Kind of just peruse and read, maybe
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: get excited about something. But it's time for the marketplace.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Should we see what a box is going for right now?
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I have eleven Black Friday specials.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Black Friday specials. It is Black Friday as of the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: time of recording this.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: The tinfoil is that Gamers Guild raised their prices so
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: that they could lower them back down for Black Friday.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: So let's see if that's true.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: So I am showing here. I found an ebayed seller
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Flower Cities Games and more. Usually they're selling their boxes
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: for one seventy. I don't know if this is a
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: an eBay thing or they lowered it for good, or
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: if it is a Black Friday thing, but one forty
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: right now is what you can get eight.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: I'm saying a few different things on eBay for like
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: one for one.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it might just be a Black Friday thing.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: They might end up going back up.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, was that one forty for retailer ks KOs? Okay, okay,
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: all right?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Cool retail is pretty much sitting strong. Actually, I found
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: another one on eBay here regular just beyond the gates
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: eighty bucks.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: So these is actually five kid starter right now.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, eighties an all time low, isn't it?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: But this might just be a Black Friday thing too.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: I've seen eighty five. I don't think I've seen eighty.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Are Our typical go to has been Gamerskilled Arizona, right, and.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: They are still at eighty nine ninety nine. But there
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: are a lot of seventy nine ninety nine out there
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: right now. Again, it is Black Friday. It is Black Friday,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So take these with a great AsSalt next week Friday
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: might be right back to where it was.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, gamers Guild actually does not have it on sell
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: at all. They have it at one seventy five for
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: the Kickstarter and I did read more of an explanation
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: of why gamers Guild has so many and why they
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: keep getting them in stock. Basically, they ordered so many
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: that Asthma Day did not have their full order when
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: they ordered it, and have been giving them batch orders.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: So the next batch will go to gamers Guild in December.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they're gonna get in like waves.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how much they ordered.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: God good on them, man, keep them coming.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I how many thousands must must they have purchased.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: It's got to be a little over two thousand by now.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure your altered accessories now on Amazon.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: Probably just got like three hundred cases or something.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Wild stuff.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Man, I mean, good on them for betting so so
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: big on the game. I just wish I wish that
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: the event that they hosted had gone a little better.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I wish there was a stronger US presence. Yeah, hopefully
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: most of the games I play, I wish there was
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a stronger US presence.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Hopefully starting in like January February, they'll see a return
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: on that that initial investment and they'll start getting if
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: they're if they're going to stay involved on that level,
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: like hosting big events and stuff. If they do another one,
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: I'll try to make it out there, just see you
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: know what it's what it's like, because I don't know
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: anything about them, so maybe maybe you know, I'm going
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: to assume that they're a pretty nice place.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Next week, yeah, yep, two weeks next week.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Next week, I got to lie out in one, two,
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: three or five five days.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Basically I thought about flying out, not gone for for
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: reasons aforementioned.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyways, uh a season two? Yeah, we are
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: good to go for a season two starting the Tuesday
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: that this episode should drop. So if you're listening to
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: this before six thirty pm Central Time, hop in. Uh
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: egis is it is? That? How we're saying it is?
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Egis right?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I always said ages, But what are you?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: I think I think they asked Julia.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, we got a confirmation we did, and I.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: It's not what I wanted to know.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I'm terrible with names and so I've forgotten.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: But anyways, uh agous creative company. Uh, there is a
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: link to their website for the Saturday Weekly on our
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: website and then there's information that we post with each event.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: If you're in the Houston area, definitely check them out.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: But that means we will have prizing again for season two,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: so for the weeks before the championship, it'll be your classic.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: First place gets a unique foiler, second place gets a
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: rare foiler, but the top two of each week do
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: get a invite to the championship. And the prizing for
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: the championship is basically a whole box and then split
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: down the tiers first, second, third, top four, top eight, etc.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: And just to rattle off all of the online tournaments
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: we have going now, we have Keelon Guy who started
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: his new weekly which is on Tuesdays, should end a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: couple hours before ACE, so you could play in both.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: A Wall now has a Monday tournament that is more
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: EU time centered and a Wednesday and Go for Altered
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: is doing another tournament coming up on a Sunday. I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: can grab that information really quickly. Yeah, so it'll be
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: on the first, So this Sunday at eight pm CET.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: A lot of those should be on Board Game arena.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: But if not, you can look up the name that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I listed there and as what you mentioned, I will
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: be at packs next week and there's some events there.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: If you haven't gotten tickets for the ones that are ticketed,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: I would highly suggest doing so as soon as you can,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: and I'll give you a recap when I'm back.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and ask Cole. He'll he'll have signed eight
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: by tens of himself. You should form they're five yep,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: and we should.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: We should in the same breath that you're mentioning, like
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: just how many tournaments there are? Now? We should shout
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: out somebody that's in the audience right now. Tom's site
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: continues to pay dividends thirty nine cards dot com is awesome.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: I'm still saying that he needs to put buy me
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: a Coffee or something like that on the website so
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: people can start tipping him. And I not linked on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: the website as far as I know. But you can
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: also go to Altered Corner dot com and go to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: the tournament's tab. You'll see the season one champion picture
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: and you'll see a link to the deck and decklists
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: provided by Tom.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: So m.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Alrighty, moving on forward. We got our biggest wishes coming
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: up for each faction in TVF. I guess, Cole, We've
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: been split out. We've been divided into our colors, right
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: like like the Power Rangers. We all have our own
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: own faction, right.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna flip the script and let Zach
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: go first, because I have had two tall glasses water
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: and I really got a pee.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I'll be right back, fair, all right, Well hit it, Zach.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: All right. So my biggest wish for Christmas, for trials
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: by Frost, for artists.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would like Robin Hood out.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I know Robin Hood. Robin Hood has
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: seen his time of glory. I think that there's I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: wish that there's going to be a new broken bureauqut
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: so that people go Robin Hood wasn't so bad, but
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: this new guy. And no, I don't want it to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: be broken. I don't want to. I do wish, in
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: all seriousness, for more bureaucrats to to get a better
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: option flow to you know, to put you know, more
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: is still good, but you know, to kind of to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: keep I think on pace with everything else, but more bureaucruts.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: The wrong with that.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Dexter has an idea for Bravos. So what's your idea
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: dexter for Bravos.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: So what I'm thinking, so Trial by Frost, this whole
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: ice theme. I'm assuming there might be some more put
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: in to sleep stuff going on. So Bravos, they're all
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: like expedition people and they're trying to rush early on.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: So maybe if they have some anti sleep tech to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: be really cool, just because I think we'll see an uptech,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: an uptick in cards that put stuff to sleep in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: this set. So if.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: War warming fires as an equipment or something, and that
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: is that is something that we haven't outside of fleeting,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: there's not really much that removes statuses. Like a lot
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: of things remove fleeting, but I can't think of anything
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: that's removing.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Anchor instead of us sleep A d boost that's interesting. Oh,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: that a negative boost. I could see that for the Frost.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Possibly that's it. That's you can have like a.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Cup of coffee we've already got We've seen the milk
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: expedition gear for Bravos, right, you could have a cup
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: of coffee to go with it.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Characters in my expedition cannot be put to sleep.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: That's fun.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Olger for Axiom.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, so I what I want? This is kind of esoteric.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: The good Axiom stuff right now is pretty straightforward, right,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Like you put your Haven on the board and then
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: you play cheap things and those things get boost and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: that's how you win. I would like to see something
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: that has me building a machine on the board, Like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: give me something where like I have to I have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: to build an engine that is competitive, right, so that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: I can sort of live that Axiom mechanical flavored dream.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: Maybe that comes in the form of more robots, energies,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: or just more robots that interact with one another so
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: that you can get different effects depending on like what
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: components you have on the board. Stuff like that, Like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: give me a line that I can take that Aby
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: crazy talk here doesn't include Haven that sort of.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: When I looked at Axiom, I did not think that
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: it was going to be the most straightforward faction to play,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: But it kind of is the most straightforward faction to play,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: at least like with top Dog Turbo, who is pretty
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: much the only character that you see from that faction
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: in big lists. Subah shows up, you know, every now
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: and again. But give me some like me, give me
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: some crazy mechanical hoops I got to jump through.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I like it if it's right in line with my
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: wanting more beercrats, right, like more paperwork for for WARU.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: All right, Zach. Since since you oh god damn it,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I don't have this cord nitro. Uh, since you said
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: a bureaucrat, what about this character do you think? Because
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: if you recognize it, it's actually the character that is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: on a token, but she now has a huge shield
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: and is on the trial by Frost Booster. What do
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: you think that's about?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: That is the Uh, but let's see the recruit ask
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: access details.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, is it the recruit female? Uh?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the one on the right here.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Are you sure because the hair is sun up a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: lot different?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I am sure.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, it looks like that's a big shield, like that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: is some heavy duty defensive stuff, and.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: She's and she's gotten a lot of armor. Maybe she's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: maybe she's been promoted from recruit to full blown character squire.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe you have the ability to make bigger recruits maybe
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: or upgrade recruits.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: Where's her friend?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: He died at the hill or he's still reading that book?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know frozen.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: He listen, Zachie's cracked it. She's a bureaucrat. She went
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: the soldier route. She's gotten promoted, she's gotten armor. Homie there,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: he said, Nah, I'm into I'm into law.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: That's right, paperwork, bureaucratic.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Else in the snow, I don't know if that's like
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: an astral projection or it's snow obscuring them. But there
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: are two people on that cover.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for a second, I thought it looked like her
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: using like a shield bashability and like that was her
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: after image. But if you look, the person behind looks
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: to have facial hair and long hair.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like a Kojo or something.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: It's not Coojo.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: There's too much hairror on that guy.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: It's like a wise old yeah, a little older.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: It's like full Jesus hair.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: That's more that that's like, that's like down to his ass,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Like that's really hard. We will have.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: A spoiler episode coming up when spoiler season kicks off,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: and I will give you a little hint here if
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: you haven't connected the pieces. A lot of spoilers are
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: going to start kicking off next week when Peck starts.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Seems fair, you still got to give a smoonacle.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys, You guys had such easy wishes. How
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: is it to already have almost everything you need? I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: will say, Mona really needs more viable, low cost options.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: I think it's really hard right now, especially with how
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: we mentioned a lot of the permanent removal being in
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: every deck. It's really hard that basically every well almost
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: every good Muna deck relies on a hydra that's a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: very big spend. Also a little later in the game,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: depending on if you ramp or not, and it's becoming
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: easier to remove based on how the meta has shifted.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: So I think that I think there are enough ways
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: to anchor. I just think there's not enough hards to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: anchor that are worth it. Maybe something that anchors over
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: three would be cool. Good tech.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Is very terrified.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we've seen.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: For a way to protect your anchored cards. Because that's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: that's the big problem, right is that, like, yeah, once
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: anchored goes on a thing, it becomes a giant cloth cocoon, magnet.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Yep yep. I. I I will open this up to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: everyone though, when they read the Yeddie card, it was
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: the first The first part of the text is from hand,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: you may put me to sleep. If you do, then
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: there's more to the card. What would you think that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: would be.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be something simple like I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: gained boosts. I think it's going to be a way
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: to ramp his stats. I think it gets anchored. Anchor.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: Anchor and sleep don't work. You lose both at the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: same time.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: It would come off together. Uh, draw a card would
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: be really great for Muna.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: I would just try to think thematically.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it could be though. Uh at noon, I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: gain angered. If you're trying to say, like the cost
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: of sleeping him, he will anger himself.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, it would be always Okay, that's basically you're right.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: The way that works doesn't work.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: If if we go super on theme from hand, you
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: may put me to sleep. If you do, I gain defender.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: It's like the yetti is freezing that expedition. I don't
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: think it would be very good.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: That's awful.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: It is a possibility.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: No, but what could you want? What if it's what
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: if it's so if you're imagining him like calling a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: snowstorm in it could be what if he's like it's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: a tack on a stick.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that could be super cool.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be nice because Muna does not have
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: a talk.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: I actually really like that idea.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: That would be nutso though, like imagine that you're playing
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: into a late game uh Dracana or hydra Cana and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: they've got like a sixteen dragon on one side and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: then they yetti the other.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: That would be me.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: I don't like it all right, Dexter, what do you
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: got for ismir?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: Okay? So for yzmir uh, Linde does not have enough
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: tools at all. We just need to have more sacrifice abilities,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: have more cards that when they get sacrificed they do
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: stuff and am.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: That is when you play another character into my lane,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: sacrifice it.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: Okay that the.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Text on that is paraphrase, but basically if he's in
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: a lane, every character that you play there after that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: is gonna get auto sacked.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: Uh huh. I would love to see some like spells
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: and effects that be like sacrifice a character. If you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: do give boost, give anchored, give us leap, do stuff,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: that could be cool. Just give more Lindway some more tools.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: You could give her some sustain even and like sacrifice
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: a character right to do a thing, but have the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: sacrifice character because we know one of the mechanics that's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: coming with Tilvey Frost is I think they called it
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: cool down in the thing that I saw. Basically, it
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: goes to reserved, but it's exhausted and it cannot be
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: played from observed while it's exhausted. So you sack a thing,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: but instead of it like fully losing it, it gets
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: sent to reserve exhausted, and then you get to play
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: with being able to sack things without losing them forever
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: a and you can start playing with that other exhausted
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: card in reserve mechanic.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: That'd be super cool.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: All right, And I have Lyra. Y'all went like super
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: like meta and like thematic. Mine is a little more
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: What do I want to say? Mine's a little more greedy.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Please make uniques that don't suck.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Look, look, I told you I'll send you a call.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah again, we're still in the same lane.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: I feel what Wookie wants for Christmas is an algorithm updates.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yes you just, I was gonna say, rising to the floor,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. Out of all the stuff
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I've I've bought paid for it open. I now have
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: two Lyra uniques. One's one's playable, one's.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Not, or just better.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: More and better.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: You can have this one.
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  Speaker 2: Raise the pole, like I don't know, Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: see a lot of liar uniques, and I've spent a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time on eBay and as the game uniques
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  Speaker 2: for Lyra or like yeah exactly, Like I.
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  Speaker 6: Know five of them are Lyra. The majority of my
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: uniques are Lyra.
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  Speaker 2: Because that has not been my experience whatsoever. And I
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  Speaker 2: want I want Neveca to be tournament playable. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a game designer. I thought we were just
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: wishing for things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we know the heroes are not changing though, so
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  Speaker 3: that's like.
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  Speaker 2: A hero. I just said, give her more support to
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  Speaker 2: make her more turn.
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  Speaker 4: So one easy card you could make for Novenka that
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  Speaker 4: is in line so you we now know you have
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: to have Martin Gil's basically because it's almost better than
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: having the landmark. What about a card that is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a character that lets.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: You re roll once that that might work? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I work. Just I want I want to roll dice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, addition fixing, I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ruin someone's day by complete random wants
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  Speaker 2: Zach because I'm just like, all right, man four up
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and you lose, right, and it's just and I hit
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: it and just the whole the crowd goes wild. How
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  Speaker 2: like that is such an awesome feeling. It doesn't happen
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: in Zach. It's not just because it would be against Zach.
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  Speaker 4: But the number one unique on Uniques ranking right now
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  Speaker 4: is a Lyra Martin Gelle.
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  Speaker 2: For seventy. I don't know it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you never played around on unique ranking.
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  Speaker 2: I'd never heard of it, never heard of it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: I like what Tom said in the chat. He said,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: a gear So for those that don't know, the gear
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  Speaker 5: is a new permanent type that's coming. It's played into
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: an expedition, so one lane or the other, and it
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  Speaker 5: stays there until that expedition advances. So if you had
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: a gear played into a lane, right, it's there until
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: you advance in that one lane. And it either has
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: a diar roll trigger or booststye rolls in the same
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: way that the.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Martingale does, or lets me roll more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, in any of those three things, because that lets you,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: particularly if it's on a gear, you could put it
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: on in a lane that you're not intending on, like
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  Speaker 5: winning and basically have a third permanent slot to fix
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: your dice until you're ready. They are permanent, yep. So
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: any uniques that you have that that care about having
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: a permanent in play count for gears so far as
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: we know. I'm pretty sure the one that we were
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: shown in the preview their permanence, but not landmarks.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Tom.
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  Speaker 5: So if it says you must have one or more landmark,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: not so much one or more permanent.
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  Speaker 3: Though, good to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's all I want. I like,
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  Speaker 2: that's all I just, I just I'm just asking you
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  Speaker 2: to change your entire algorithm and little things, you know,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: the little it said wishes, I didn't think they'd come true, y'all.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Was like, y'all went with like very like very like
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: small like, oh, these are all kind of possible. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I read that completely differently than everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's there's a reason that I don't ask Santa
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  Speaker 5: for a yacht at Christmas.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Right, Like, I mean, don't ask, don't get, man, That's
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying, right Like, maybe if you ask, you get,
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  Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden these things will come true.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not.
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  Speaker 5: I do want to point out. I think it's kind
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: of neat that outside of Wookie uh coal, well not cool.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: So Zach asked for additional bureaucrats, so additional support for
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: a theme that's already there. I asked for something that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: kind of boils down to maybe like more robe of
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: robot synergies. Dexter asked for more sacrifice synergies. We sort
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: of basically said, Hey, this stuff that the game lets
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: us do is cool, we'd like more of it please.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's neat, Yeah, because like there could be like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: the gear stuff isn't getting introduced right like as a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: new concept. I do like when card games do that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: when they introduce new concepts for the new sets. But
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: it's like, as far as in my mind, I'm picturing
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: this set one, two, three, four, you know, as all
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: like quote unquote one release, because they're not changing heroes,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: there's nothing changing with that in my mind at least, right. Yeah,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: obvious that could block that's of course, that's yeah, that's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: kind of like how like I'm currently picturing it. I'm
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: waiting for that next hero set to see like the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: quote unquote big gameplay changes or something. But there's obviously
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: could be introduced in the next you know, couple releases too,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah again, I'll ask for the very reasonable things.
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  Speaker 2: And I went the opposite to direction. I'm sorry, I
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: want to.
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  Speaker 3: I want to.
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  Speaker 5: I want to add a wish to Bravos. I so
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: there's been they've hinted that.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: They make a fire cat, so these ship makes sense
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: fire dogs, fire dogs dog. I want to see. It's
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: got me sand is now.
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  Speaker 5: I think that I would love one of the things
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: that's kind of like they've hinted it. Uh, they're going
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: to do something that nobody thinks about today, Like they're
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: adding some mechanic that's going to uh make us look
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: at things that we've never looked at up till now,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: or that we kind of take for granted. And my
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: suspicion is that that is something to do with uh
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: the mana zone. And so what I would like is
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: if Bravos, because they already have a ton of cards
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: that ask them to either add a card at random
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: to their menizone or uh to like I have some
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: uniques that ask me to set to basically sacrifice one
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: and they have that one removal card also that you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: you have to discard a mana to use. I'd like
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: to see some things that let you either trigger them
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: from the manizone, like quick actions that are some weird
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: like if I'm in the manazone, you can discard me
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: to do X cool thing, or cards that let me
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  Speaker 5: bring things from my manizone back into my hand m
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: something like paying with that zone.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Some sort of recursion in that area.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: We'll say that. It's like you're almost like, at least
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: for that faction, you're playing with a third zone of play, right,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: you have your hand, you have your reserve, and then
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: you have your manozone. If that's the case, and that
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: like that's really powerful.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: I feel like, I think if there's a faction that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: deserves it, like we talked about earlier, they struggle so
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: much with drawing cards. Yeah, like that's their their biggest
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: weakness is the fact that they have a hard time
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: keeping their resources up. If they had some limited way
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: to pull the things that they're randomly dropping into their
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: manna with their ramp or basically like when I draw
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: my card that I need, like imagine you're a fire
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: you're uh, you're asadi, right, You're playing with all these big,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: huge things in your deck, you draw a handful of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: them you can't do anything with. You're gonna need it
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: late game, but you can't play it right now. You
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: drop it into MANA knowing that later you've got, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: some Explorer card that's gonna pull one of those back
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: and put it in your hand so they can play
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: it again.
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  Speaker 3: That's an interesting idea too, because then you have to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: make that a choice, like if that is the case, right,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: you're making a choice about to one lower Mano zone
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: to get that card back, but also get the abilities
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: of that card that you put in there as like
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: a like I said, an untouchable play zone. At that point,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of been interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, I just I saw something.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's that's cool. I like it. I I've I've
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: always liked cards that kind of are card games that
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: do things like with either deck manipulation or discard manipulation
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: or you know, in this case it'd be manzone manipulation.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: So I think that's kind of a unique. And even
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: with the one that you said, the exhausting the cards
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: in the reserve and you can't use them, that's I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: like that.
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